Re: Apple Quick Note
Hello, I apologize. I should have said that if you are using something other than an apple keyboard you will have to create your own shortcut for it. At least I have to when using my logitech keyboard. Greg Wocher > On Mar 29, 2024, at 9:32 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: > > A shortcut for Quick Note already exist. > To start a new Quick Note, press Fn + Q. > > - Brad - > > On Mar 29, 2024, at 05:23, Greg Wocher wrote: > > Hello, > It is completely accessible. You will have to make your own shortcut to use > it though. > > Greg Wocher > > >> On Mar 28, 2024, at 9:34 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> Haven't used this but seeing that it is available on Mac, iPhone and iPad, I >> would like to know how accessible and useful it is. Thanks. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." >> -Helen Keller >> My e-Mail: >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/a780ab5b-3790-4a1c-be8e-026191e02ed7%40icloud.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F1A8830F-9565-427E-915B-5CDB54D8E949%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C73AB543-0E95-48CC-BA3C-C7C9CA03C974%40swbell.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/72750415-DDBD-4D18-83F1-6262C1740DA4%40gmail.com.
Re: Apple Quick Note
Hello, It is completely accessible. You will have to make your own shortcut to use it though. Greg Wocher > On Mar 28, 2024, at 9:34 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi all, > Haven't used this but seeing that it is available on Mac, iPhone and iPad, > I would like to know how accessible and useful it is. Thanks. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > -Helen Keller > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/a780ab5b-3790-4a1c-be8e-026191e02ed7%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F1A8830F-9565-427E-915B-5CDB54D8E949%40gmail.com.
Re: A weird issue with typing in Sonoma
Hello, It sounds like you have turned on single letter quick nav. Try using the voiceover plus q command to turn it off. This should fix your issue hopefully. Greg Wocher > On Feb 4, 2024, at 3:17 PM, joseph hudson wrote: > > Hi guys, so I've had a weird issue with typing in Sonoma that started this > morning. Anytime I want to use my physical keyboard on my computer. Will not > allow me to type. If I hit certain letters, it'll either tell me not found. I > have to interact with the text in order to type. This happened so far in the > spotlight, and in emails. Has anybody else experienced this? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FE0BFAE6-771F-4827-9D9C-AD37CF4010E6%40twc.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2577429F-2C2A-4F5E-9211-18CB9303B042%40gmail.com.
Re: Native MacOS E-Mail Reading Too Much
Hello, I actually like this behavior myself. If you want to change it, with mail opened up, press command plus comma to open up mail preferences. Once the preferences payne is opened, Vo left arrow to the toolbar. Interact with the toolbar and move to the view option. The very first option in this section says something like line preview. Activate this popup box and change the selection to none. This should do what you are wanting to do. Greg Wocher > On Aug 2, 2023, at 7:29 AM, Bill Gallik wrote: > > Hi All, > > Hopefully somebody on this list can offer me a tip on the annoying situation > described below! > > As I peruse through my message list, I find that VoiceOver is reading the > actual content of the message after reporting the “Message List” line. This > is NOT how I prefer to read my e-mail, I would rather I needed to explicitly > a given current message list item in order to read the entire contents of > said message. How can this be remedied - anybody? > > TIA > > - Bill > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4DFBD7BD-153D-452C-A6A3-B188BCC68CD6%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5AD4C608-6690-4CD6-84E4-38267A5F44BB%40gmail.com.
Re: accessability of Finalcut
Hello, I have never used it myself, but I have heard other blind people who have and they say it is very accessible. I am pretty sure there are even some youtube videos talking about its accessibility. Greg Wocher > On Mar 23, 2023, at 1:12 PM, Dennis Clark wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I'm becoming involved in a project which uses Finalcut for video and audio > editing. From the descriptions I have read about this program it sounds like > the interface is pretty visual. Is Finalcut at all usable with Voiceover? > Thanks in advance for your assistance. > > Dennis > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/c7c9a678-ac0a-1250-365c-bb14f8a36c8c%40dgclark.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/1189924E-4055-4CB0-BC31-812D978A77F1%40gmail.com.
Re: Anyone Having a Problem with Nightowl?
Hello, THe issue is that quite a few third party twitter clients are experiencing this right now. Its not just night owl. Greg Wocher > On Jan 14, 2023, at 10:01 AM, Brandon Olivares > wrote: > > For the last two days, any time I open NightOwl, it asks me to reauthenticate > Twitter. Which is fine, but the page to do so doesn’t actually load, and it > constantly plays the error sound again and again and again. I’m unable to do > anything else. > > Is anyone else having this problem? > > Brandon > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/28A57061-6D18-4754-857D-A341E77B7700%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/9E33BB77-6745-4BF0-8FC7-22E7877EEC02%40gmail.com.
Re: Book Player for Mac
Hello, There is Voice Dream reader. It does cost $4.99 a month on the mac. It will do what you want. There is also an app called Speech Central. It is a free app and it might do what you want. Greg Wocher > On Dec 3, 2022, at 2:39 AM, Fazil M. wrote: > > Thanks much but VLC does not remember where the reading was left last time > and each time it starts playing the file from the beginning. > Thanks! > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Herbie Allen > Sent: Friday, December 02, 2022 9:11 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Book Player for Mac > > VLC might be your best bet as it can play files one after another. You can > put them in playlists as well. > > >> On Dec 2, 2022, at 17:34, Fazil M. > <mailto:mfa...@outlook.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi, Group. >> Any recommendations for a book player for Mac? >> I would play simple mp3 files but I want the player keep track how much I >> have read a book and if I am listening three books simultaneously then I >> want each book tracked correctly. >> Thanks much for your help. >> >> Thanks! >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DS7PR20MB4159C2ECB7239195B0E1681BC9179%40DS7PR20MB4159.namprd20.prod.outlook.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DS7PR20MB4159C2ECB7239195B0E1681BC9179%40DS7PR20MB4159.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can > reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B92C7CF5-12DB-46E4-9AD6-85814379D89C%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B92C7CF5-12DB-46E4-9AD6-85814379D89C%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can > reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-ar
Re: Voice Dream Reader for Mac by Subscription?
Hello, I believe it is $4.99 a month. Greg Wocher > On Nov 23, 2022, at 4:18 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > We have it by subscription. > I don’t know the cost as it makes me mad to have to pay every month. > /A > >> 23 nov. 2022 kl. 22:15 skrev Fazil M. : >> >> Hi, Group. >> Do we have Voice Dream Reader for Mac? >> If yes, is it by subscription or for one-time charge? >> I am sorry for asking this because I don’t know how to search an App in the >> AppStore. >> Thanks! >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DS7PR20MB4159EAAEC5EF2002EAF0830FC90C9%40DS7PR20MB4159.namprd20.prod.outlook.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DS7PR20MB4159EAAEC5EF2002EAF0830FC90C9%40DS7PR20MB4159.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5502C9A8-ED8C-45F2-B104-D39830AC772D%40pipkrokodil.se > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5502C9A8-ED8C-45F2-B104-D39830AC772D%40pipkrokodil.se?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/D185986C-9705-4B4D-B71E-E358BE4079AC%40gmail.com.
Re: Voiceover and f keys.
Hello, How you do this depends on which version of Mac OS you are running. I will give the instructions for Mac OS Ventura since that is what I am running. 1. Open up System settings. 2. Once in the list of settings find keyboard by either arrowing around until you find it or start typing keyboard and it should jump you right to it. 3. Once you find keyboard use VO plus right arrow to move to the keyboard scroll area and interact with it. 4. Now VO right arrow till you hear keyboard shortcuts button and activate it. 5. Once you activate the button it will put you on a table of different sections you can find keyboard shortcuts for. Interact with this table. 6. Once you interact, use VO plus down arrow to move to a button that says function keys and activate it. 7. Once you activate the button stop interacting and move to the right with VO plus right arrow and you will be able to activate the option to use function keys as normal F1 thru F12. Greg Wocher > On Nov 8, 2022, at 12:38 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > I am using a Logitech xm keys. > Very very nice to type at. > /A > >> 8 nov. 2022 kl. 18:23 skrev Doug Lee : >> >> Which keyboard are you using? I don't have to use Fn from a wired Apple >> aluminum keyboard. Bluetooth keyboards >> vary in how to do this I think. I've seen Fn+Esc toggle this on some of >> them. Some may require an application >> to change this behavior, though I've only worked with keyboards like that >> under Windows. >> >> I'm assuming you are not asking about Quick Nav mode, which does not involve >> the Fn key but does reduce the >> number of simultaneous keys you have to press for a number of commands. >> >> On Tue, Nov 08, 2022 at 06:14:32PM +0100, Anders Holmberg wrote: >> Hi! >> Can someone remind me on how to do to not having to press the fn key with >> all Voiceover commands? >> Some commands with function keys are very hard to perform. >> Bless! >> /A >> >> -- >> Doug Lee d...@dlee.orghttp://www.dlee.org >> "It's not easy to be crafty and winsome at the same time, and few accomplish >> it after the age of six." --John W. Gardner and Francesca Gardner Reese >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/20221108172328.wushzxyl2hoqpkg5%40dlee.org. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/AABF702E-9F0F-469C-9A41-8281F9EC54A6%40pipkrokodil.se. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list mo
Re: What is Launchpad?
Hello, Launch pad is similar to how you would see all your apps on an iPhone. It is very usable with VO. I use the doc for frequently used programs. I also use the keyboard commander for my favorite apps. For everything else I use command a to go into the applications folder. You can also use spotlight to open apps,folders and files on your machine. Greg Wocher > On Nov 4, 2022, at 9:27 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: > > I think using the shortcut menu from the item on the Dock is more efficient, > and it doesn't leave you with an open Finder window. > > - Brad - > > On Nov 4, 2022, at 07:59, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Brad, > > I’ve never messed with the launchpad. I have a vague memory of it originally > not being very vo friendly. Is there any advantage to using it over just > opening the applications folder? > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Nov 4, 2022, at 12:17 AM, Bradford Snyder wrote: >> >> If you put your VoiceOver focus on the Launchpad item in the Dock, and then >> open the Shortcut menu, you will get an alphabetical list of all >> applications on your Mac. You can then select an application from the list, >> and use either VO + Spacebar, or press Enter, to launch the app. >> >> - Brad - >> >> >> >> On Nov 3, 2022, at 23:16, Herbie Allen wrote: >> >> I think it’s a visual control panel for launching apps. >> >>> On Nov 3, 2022, at 20:27, Mohammad Fazil wrote: >>> >>> group! >>> May I know what is Launchpad and what does it do, please? >>> thanks! >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E413A645-5D9A-4BE9-B1E1-5C16F4EE8E66%40outlook.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/77331004-5FD0-4155-BB1A-3A6140F18E10%40gmail.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >
Re: MacOs Ventura is Out.
Hello, I just got done updating my 14 inch macbook pro and I am loving it so far. My favorite feature is eloquence. I am also noticing that voiceover seems to be a bit snappier with this update. I am also noticing improvements in safari as well. Greg Wocher > On Oct 24, 2022, at 3:13 PM, joseph hodge wrote: > > Strange how are you navigating? For me if I go to the conversation group and > interact then turn on quicknav just using the arrows I am not having that > issue. Then when I want to select a message I use VO plus space. > >> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:52 PM, Herbie Allen wrote: >> >> Just updated and I’m already confounded by the messages app. When I go to a >> different conversation, it tells me two conversations selected. I do love >> the responsiveness of of Ventura. System settings is interesting with not >> having to unlock. >> >>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 12:48, joseph hodge wrote: >>> >>> I just updated and am checking it out now. Loving it so far. Finally can >>> get rid of the apple scripts for time and battery plus now the Wifi option >>> is cool. >>> >>> Joe >>> >>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> For those of you who can update to Ventura I have just found out that >>>> macOS Ventura is out. >>>> So i am now updating my new M1 Mac mini. >>>> My old MacBook Air can not update as its from 2015. >>>> But it has a programUpdate to Monterey 12.6.1. >>>> Which I don’t care for as I will try to sell it. >>>> /A >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8C8B1D9D-42F3-4F6D-82D8-384719E1839C%40pipkrokodil.se. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C36F019D-8D0B-4D8F-9E48-F99A71A2513A%40gmail.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The arch
Re: Youtube music, Apple Music, Spotify.
Hello, I use YouTube music. The reason is that I pay for YouTube premium for me and my son so we do not see adds in YouTube. We watch YouTube a lot so it is worth it for us. YouTube music comes with a YouTube premium subscription. Greg Wocher > On Jul 2, 2022, at 3:40 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > I also use Apple Music, because I like the high quality at no extra cost, the > ease of use with Siri, the fact that I have HomePods and iOS devices etc. I > also had it linked to my Amazon, although that went out a little while back > and I haven’t tried it since. I did have Amazon music, but I dropped it, > because it never got linked up with my HomePods so never mind. I have YouTube > premium but not for the music, just for the fact that I don’t have to see ads > ever. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 2, 2022, at 1:59 AM, Tibor Niesner wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> how do you use service for listening to music and why? >> I am talking about the services in a subject. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Best regard. >> >> Tibor Niesner >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FF54A526-81B3-4F6C-8AD0-B4DC6AF0F485%40seznam.cz. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/397622E3-9F4C-4153-8949-3FC5CFD04094%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/04A98993-BF5F-41E8-B04B-23573AADECA7%40gmail.com.
Re: basic finder question
Hello, When you go to do the paste command use option plus command plus V instead of just command plus V. This will move the file rather than just copying it. Greg Wocher > On Jun 22, 2022, at 2:07 PM, Andrew Leland wrote: > > Hey all, > > I'm a lifelong sighted Mac user currently in the process of becoming a blind > Mac user. I've also decided to learn JAWS (even though I would've never dream > of switching to Windows otherwise) since I can't avoid MS Word in my work and > I've been gobsmacked by how frequently Word for Mac stops working compared to > Scrivener, which is my main workhorse word processor. (also finding some of > the JAWS navigation, especially on the web, more reliable and intuitive than > VoiceOver for MacOS). > > Anyway none of this has anything to do with my question for you, which is as > follows: > > is there any way to move items in the finder without just copying, deleting, > then pasting in the new location? I know in Windows you can "cut" a file and > then "paste" it elsewhere, removing this middle step of having to then go > back and delete the file... I have half-heartedly tried reading the apple > documentation about dragging and dropping with VoiceOver but I haven't had > the courage to try. is it more efficient than copy file, paste file, delete > file in the finder? > > thanks, and thanks for including me in this group! > Andrew Leland > alel...@gmail.com > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/842844b8-a378-470e-8a43-7a2157847c1en%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/842844b8-a378-470e-8a43-7a2157847c1en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/347C8385-0EE5-43ED-A99C-CFEA1FAA008B%40gmail.com.
Re: Mouse cursor follows voiceover cursor or ignores voiceover cursor
Hello, It's probably best to set it to ignores VO cursor. There are times where it is beneficial to not have the mouse cursor follow the VO cursor. An example of this is the Amazon website. If the mouse cursor is set to follow the VO cursor it can cause all kinds of issues with the Amazon site. There is also a command to move the mouse cursor to the VO cursor so ignoring is probably best. Greg Wocher > On Mar 13, 2022, at 9:47 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > The subject explains my dilemma. Is it better to set mouse cursorr to ignore > voiceover cursor or follow it? What is your experience. I’d appreciate your > comments. > > Andrew > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/733BA7F4-3EB8-41E5-9878-8041831F6971%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/30808FB6-C12A-400F-AEB9-C9D9B5D28240%40gmail.com.
Re: Safari on Mac
Hello, You can also try the keyboard shortcut VO plus J. This can act like using F6 on Windows. Greg Wocher > On Feb 26, 2022, at 5:54 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: > > earlier I used to be able to stop interacting with the toolbar but now when I > press those keys it just makes one of those sounds like. I've done the wrong > thing in the wrong place. I'll play around a little more with your > suggestions. > >> On Feb 26, 2022, at 4:46 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote: >> >> Here are a couple of things you can try: >> >> 1. Press VO + Shift + Up Arrow, to stop interacting with the Toolbar. >> 2. Once you have stopped interacting with the Toolbar, press VO + Fn + >> Right Arrow )or VO + End) to move VoiceOver focus to the web page content >> area. >> 3. Whether or not you have stopped interacting with the Toolbar, press VO + >> CMD + H, to move to the first Heading in the web page. >> >> HTH >> >> - Brad - >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 26, 2022, at 16:17, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> when using Safari on my Mac I often get stuck in what I think must be the >> toolbar. is there a keystroke to get me back into web content? >> >> thanks. >> Lorie >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2F72EB58-260E-43DB-AB83-CEC7E4DEB83E%40gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2F72EB58-260E-43DB-AB83-CEC7E4DEB83E%40gmail.com>. >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/329C5742-1A1A-49C2-A2AB-FE048CD4B76D%40swbell.net >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/329C5742-1A1A-49C2-A2AB-FE048CD4B76D%40swbell.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner i
Re: Apple Pay
Hello, No you cannot use apple pay at walmart. The only way to do contactless payments is thru the walmart pay app. Greg Wocher > On Jan 26, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Phil Halton wrote: > > A lot changes in the span of a year. Or, maybe that cashier was ill-informed. > At any rate I’ll bet you can use Apple Pay at Walmart I would be shocked if > you couldn’t. As far as at the self check outs don’t know about that. But > I’ve never used the self checkouts anyway I don’t see why they wouldn’t. > > Sent from my IPhone > > >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Brad Snyder wrote: >> >> ApplePay is accepted at Target. >> Target also provides free Aira access, which also is not provided at Walmart. >> >> - Brad - >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 14:30, joseph hudson > <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com>> wrote: >> >> Wow that's good to know. I wish they did. >> Joseph Hudson >> EmailFaceTime/iMessage >> jhud7...@twc.com <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com> >> Technology support for the blind >> Telephone >> 254-300-7667 >> >> Emergency cell >> >> 254-813-2461 >> Skype >> joseph.hudson89 >> >> facebook >> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 >> Twitter >> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 >> >>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:28 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> About a year ago, a WalMart Cashier told me that they did not do Apple Pay. >>> >>> >>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:38 PM, joseph hudson wrote: >>>> >>>> Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might >>>> the next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know >>>> if these work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. And >>>> I'm talking at places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's. >>>> >>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton wrote: >>>>> >>>>> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the >>>>> card reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does any >>>>> good because they are “Nearfield readers “. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my IPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was >>>>>> setting up. thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, >>>>>>> there will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to point >>>>>>> your phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> thanks. >>>>>>>> Lorie >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>>>>> itself. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach >>>>>>>> mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach >>>>>>>> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVis
Re: Some Questions Regarding Pages and Voiceover
Hello, I believe if you stop interacting with the body of the document and VO right arrow a few times, it should say the word count if you have it enabled. There are several guides to using pages on the applevis website that might be helpful for you. Greg Wocher > On Jan 17, 2022, at 2:54 PM, Shannon Dyer wrote: > > Good afternoon all, > > I’ve been a Mac user for a number of years, but I’ve never been a fan of the > word processor Pages. Now though, I need to familiarize myself with it and > somehow get comfortable using it. I’m wondering if there are certain settings > I need to tweak in order to make VoiceOver work well with the program. Right > now, I can create, edit, and save documents, but when I ask for the word > count to be displayed, I can’t actually get VoiceOver to read out the count. > I’m guessing I’m doing something wrong, but I’m not sure exactly what that > might be. > > I appreciate any help any of you might be able to offer. > > Shannon > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/9E9AFAB2-4090-4833-B4FB-2536687ACEA5%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/95C2CB90-1F18-4C15-89BF-AFF4A4EFD554%40gmail.com.
Re: Telegram again
Hello, There is an app called TweeseCake on the mac that is accessible and does both twitter and telegram. You can find it on the applevis website. Greg Wocher > On Dec 31, 2021, at 6:49 PM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, the Telegram app for the Mac is not accessible. > > God bless. > Matthew Dierckens > Certified assistive technology specialist > Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer > > >> On Dec 31, 2021, at 18:30, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries >> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> >> A quick Web search indicates there’s a Mac OS version, so you should be able >> to install it and find out how accessible it is. Another quick Web search >> failed to find any useful information on http://applevis.com/ >> <http://applevis.com/> other than reports of accessibility issues with the >> iOS version. >> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Lorie McCloud >> mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> >> Date: Friday, December 31, 2021 at 17:19 >> To: via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> Subject: Re: Telegram again >> >> I use it on my phone with moderate success. I don't know if it works on a >> computer or not. >> >> > On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:16 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >> > mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> > wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > Is there any accessible way I could use Telegram using voiceover? >> > >> > Andrew >> > >> > -- >> > The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> > Visionaries list. >> > >> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> > >> > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >> > at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - >> > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> > <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> > >> > The archives for this list can be searched at: >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >> > --- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "MacVisionaries" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5B69BE4B-B1AF-468C-9F13-AE07BC2067F1%40me.com >> > >> > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5B69BE4B-B1AF-468C-9F13-AE07BC2067F1%40me.com>. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F03D7D13-5050-4666-8A61-B4B9576E175C%40gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.c
Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac
Hello, The beta version is a few headings above the developer one on the page I sent. The developer version is similar to the beta but its updated more frequently. THe beta version tends to be a bit more stable. Greg Wocher > On Dec 12, 2021, at 9:57 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Greg, > I found a developers version. Is that what you meant by a beta version? > > Dave Carlson > Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian > > > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/12AD2C08-B3CC-462E-A9F6-8BCD844383BC%40gmail.com.
Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac
Hello, You can find the beta here: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/desktop/ <https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/desktop/> The main reason I suggest the beta builds is that they will get accessibility fixes earlier than the release versions. Greg Wocher > On Dec 12, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Greg, > Interesting your observation on the bug in Edge. That could well explain why > tabl navigation used to work, and now does not. > As to Firefox, I’m using the version I downloaded last evening, version 95. > How do I get my hands on a beta version? > > Dave Carlson > Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker > > On Dec 12, 2021, at 3:32 AM, Greg Wocher <mailto:gtwoc...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hello, > Right now there is a bug in edge that won't allow those of us using VO to > navigate tables. IF you are using firefox try and get the beta version. It > seems to work a bit better than the non beta version or at least it did > before I got my new mac. I have not tried it on the new machine as of yet. I > may do that later and see what happens. > > Greg Wocher > >> On Dec 12, 2021, at 1:13 AM, Eric Oyen > <mailto:eric.o...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> yeah. I get that on some sites as well using safari. Part of it is probably >> improper web code or use of non-standard html tags. Btw, have you tried edge >> on the gmail website set in basic html mode? If the problem shows up there, >> then it’s likely edge that’s the problem. Then again, Microsoft was never >> very good at producing accessible products that worked on platforms other >> than their flagship OS. >> >> -Eric >> >> >>> On Dec 11, 2021, at 8:09 PM, Dave Carlson >> <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Eric, >>> Thanks for the suggestions. My problem with MS-Edge is that I can’t >>> navigate tables at all. When one shows up all I hear is the Table with x >>> rows and y columns. >>> >>> Dave Carlson >>> Woodworker, Oregonian, Pioneer, Musician, Engineer, and Farfar >>> >>> On Dec 11, 2021, at 12:29 PM, Eric Oyen >> <mailto:eric.o...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Google chrome seems to work ok, although it doesn’t poll the keychain >>> access file for passwords (it tries to store them internally). On sites >>> where some of the elements aren’t workable in safari, chrome might work >>> (although this is hit or miss a lot of the time). >>> >>> Oh, and forget about Firefox as it is barely accessible and tends not to >>> render some sites in a way the screen reader understands). >>> >>> -Eric >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 11, 2021, at 1:23 PM, Dave Carlson >>> <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Having trouble with MS-Edge lately. Not too thrilled with Safari and how >>>> chatty it is when filling in logon and passwords. What other browsers are >>>> you using with any success? >>>> >>>> Dave Carlson >>>> Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Farfar, Woodworker, and Pioneer >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - >>>> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >&
Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac
Hello, Right now there is a bug in edge that won't allow those of us using VO to navigate tables. IF you are using firefox try and get the beta version. It seems to work a bit better than the non beta version or at least it did before I got my new mac. I have not tried it on the new machine as of yet. I may do that later and see what happens. Greg Wocher > On Dec 12, 2021, at 1:13 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: > > yeah. I get that on some sites as well using safari. Part of it is probably > improper web code or use of non-standard html tags. Btw, have you tried edge > on the gmail website set in basic html mode? If the problem shows up there, > then it’s likely edge that’s the problem. Then again, Microsoft was never > very good at producing accessible products that worked on platforms other > than their flagship OS. > > -Eric > > >> On Dec 11, 2021, at 8:09 PM, Dave Carlson > <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Eric, >> Thanks for the suggestions. My problem with MS-Edge is that I can’t navigate >> tables at all. When one shows up all I hear is the Table with x rows and y >> columns. >> >> Dave Carlson >> Woodworker, Oregonian, Pioneer, Musician, Engineer, and Farfar >> >> On Dec 11, 2021, at 12:29 PM, Eric Oyen > <mailto:eric.o...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Google chrome seems to work ok, although it doesn’t poll the keychain access >> file for passwords (it tries to store them internally). On sites where some >> of the elements aren’t workable in safari, chrome might work (although this >> is hit or miss a lot of the time). >> >> Oh, and forget about Firefox as it is barely accessible and tends not to >> render some sites in a way the screen reader understands). >> >> -Eric >> >> >>> On Dec 11, 2021, at 1:23 PM, Dave Carlson >> <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Having trouble with MS-Edge lately. Not too thrilled with Safari and how >>> chatty it is when filling in logon and passwords. What other browsers are >>> you using with any success? >>> >>> Dave Carlson >>> Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Farfar, Woodworker, and Pioneer >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/993024A3-D710-4712-98DF-35044FB98A30%40gmail.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/993024A3-D710-4712-98DF-35044FB98A30%40gmail.com>. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group
Re: Yet another question; this time about calendar
Hello, Use the command vo plus command plus spacebar when you hear the calendar announcement. This will bring up a list of actions you can take on the notification. You can then arrow down to close and select it. This should make the notification go away. Greg Wocher > On Oct 31, 2021, at 3:36 PM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Calendar continually comes up to tell me it’s Halloween. I can do nothing on > the computer, because it is constant. Anyone got a suggestion? > > Kristeen > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E9F6A3AF-9397-41C8-97BA-A894CB569967%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CFB98EFC-6A23-4995-9D00-8BB6757BAF5A%40gmail.com.
Re: Auto Voice Over at Login
Hello, It is under the accessibility settings in system preferences. There is a table in these settings with different categories and one of them is VoiceOver. In the VoiceOver settings here there is a checkbox for enabling VoiceOver. I think this is the one you want. Greg WOcher > On Sep 3, 2021, at 3:07 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > For some silly reason I can no longer recall I did not choose to have > Voice Over start automatically when I boot my Mac Mini. So, I'm forever > doing Command F5 before logging in. It's getting old, but I'm also not > finding where to undo this choice and choose to have Voice Over > auto-enabled on startup for the login. > > I'm poking around in Users and Groups but not finding this as a login > option. Seems I'm missing something obvious, but I am stumped. > > This is Big Sur 11.15.2. Any help gratefully accepted. > > Janina > > Kliph writes: >> You have a lot of great questions, and no there is no audio highjack app for >> the iPad, but there are programs that will record audio. Probably not the >> way you want to though. I have a audio editing group that discusses all the >> ways editing audio can be done, I will put that info below. As for the >> MacBook Air questions, I do a lot of free consultations and even partner >> with a few others for the stuff I don’t know. So if you haven’t gotten your >> answer, send me an email off list. >> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all the >> options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files sound >> good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here >> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io >> <mailto:audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io>Even explore my Tutorials >> <https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0JbtMF46Bawfj0O02aTSAcJEw#editing_audio_tutorials> >> and SoundEffects Folder >> <https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/063P7bU9RkC56Vdw_V5QaMf1Q#Ring_tone&Alerts_library> >> to receive updated resources >> Let’s master editing audio together! >> >> >>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 4:51 AM, Frank Ventura >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Terri, no I do not think there is an equivalent to Audio Hijack for the >>> iPad. You would probably have to run the audio out of the iPad and then >>> back in. That really isn’t practical. I think the Macintosh solution is a >>> good idea. Do you need portability or can you make do with a Mac mini and a >>> wireless keyboard? Do you have a budget for this project? Audio recordings >>> can eat up a great deal of disk space quickly. A 1TB or larger hard drive >>> is a good idea. >>> Frank Ventura >>> >>>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 12:39 AM, Terri Stimmel >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> >>>> First of all, I would like to say thank you to all of you who took the >>>> time to try and help me out. I really appreciate all the great >>>> information, and thoughts. It has really helped me to understand things, >>>> when it comes to Macbooks. >>>> >>>> >>>> Karen asked if I would like to explain my goals. I appreciate this, >>>> because I think that could be helpful. I think it might help me figure out >>>> what exactly I might need. >>>> >>>> >>>> So my main goal is to be able to purchase a device, such as a Mac, or an >>>> iPad, so that I can record audio. I am huge into collecting audio >>>> described content. We have Spectrum cable. Some of the channels that carry >>>> audio described content that I would like to capture, don't carry the >>>> audio description over my cable box. >>>> >>>> However, I can get it, using the Spectrum App. >>>> >>>> >>>> So I would like to be able to use a program like audio hijack, and capture >>>> the streaming audio. I want to go to the Spectrum site, and stream the >>>> channel I want, and capture the audio description. >>>> >>>> >>>> That is the main thing I am hoping to do. I could use my windows laptop. >>>> But in order to do this, I would have to go through many steps to make >>>> this happen. Including purchasing a sound card. >>>> >>>> But then I would not be able to easily access my laptop for other things. >>>> Such as checking mail, and all the oth
Re: Swift playgrounds VS Visual Studio code.
I don’t think there is much difference between the two. I know that COT editor can be found in the App Store for free and text mate you have to find on the web. Greg Wocher > On Aug 22, 2021, at 3:02 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: > > Ok, what’s the difference between TextMate and COT editor? > >> On Aug 22, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Greg Wocher > <mailto:gtwoc...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> If you are doing HTML on the Mac I would stick with either text mate or COT >> editor. Also I would stay away from W3 schools for learning HTML. W3 schools >> is okay if you need to find the syntax for an element but not for actually >> learning HTML. I would go with Free Code Camp. It is a much better resource >> for learning HTML. >> >> Greg Wocher >>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 11:50 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Swift Playground does give you the basics when it comes to programming, but >>> it is not an HTML coding platform. Swift Playgrounds is for learning the >>> Swift language. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Jamf Certified Tech >>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>> Apple Teacher >>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 9:14 AM, Jessica Moss >>> <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I’m currently attempting to learn HTML code, so I, along with the rest of >>>> the team at Omnicommander can help fix the issues we’re all running into >>>> with the web sites I check on a regular basis, instead of simply auditing >>>> everything I find wrong with them and sending in spreadsheets on a daily >>>> basis. I’ve attempted this once with a version of Swift Playgrounds I was >>>> able to run on my Mac, not knowing if this was the same version people are >>>> using on their iPads, and sense I don’t own an iPad, I can’t really >>>> compare the 2, but either which way, I had no idea what I was doing with >>>> it. So now I’m attempting to use W3 Schools, along with Visual Studio >>>> code, however I’m still in the beginning stages of learning what HTML is, >>>> where everything goes, etc. so trying to practice with it has been a >>>> nightmare, especially sense from my standpoint, there doesn’t seem to be a >>>> way to make Voiceover tell me what line I’m on, so I’ll think I’ve written >>>> a new line of code, and apparently, I’ve intertwined what I tried to write >>>> with something else and created a huge mess. >>>> When it comes to both of these, what have you all had better experience >>>> with? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - >>>> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C2783E2A-0D8C-488C-949E-D5B89D96D214%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C2783E2A-0D8C-488C-949E-D5B89D96D214%40gmail.com>. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is imp
Re: Swift playgrounds VS Visual Studio code.
Hello, If you are doing HTML on the Mac I would stick with either text mate or COT editor. Also I would stay away from W3 schools for learning HTML. W3 schools is okay if you need to find the syntax for an element but not for actually learning HTML. I would go with Free Code Camp. It is a much better resource for learning HTML. Greg Wocher > On Aug 22, 2021, at 11:50 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > Swift Playground does give you the basics when it comes to programming, but > it is not an HTML coding platform. Swift Playgrounds is for learning the > Swift language. > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Professional Learning Specialist > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Aug 22, 2021, at 9:14 AM, Jessica Moss > <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I’m currently attempting to learn HTML code, so I, along with the rest of >> the team at Omnicommander can help fix the issues we’re all running into >> with the web sites I check on a regular basis, instead of simply auditing >> everything I find wrong with them and sending in spreadsheets on a daily >> basis. I’ve attempted this once with a version of Swift Playgrounds I was >> able to run on my Mac, not knowing if this was the same version people are >> using on their iPads, and sense I don’t own an iPad, I can’t really compare >> the 2, but either which way, I had no idea what I was doing with it. So now >> I’m attempting to use W3 Schools, along with Visual Studio code, however I’m >> still in the beginning stages of learning what HTML is, where everything >> goes, etc. so trying to practice with it has been a nightmare, especially >> sense from my standpoint, there doesn’t seem to be a way to make Voiceover >> tell me what line I’m on, so I’ll think I’ve written a new line of code, and >> apparently, I’ve intertwined what I tried to write with something else and >> created a huge mess. >> When it comes to both of these, what have you all had better experience >> with? >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C2783E2A-0D8C-488C-949E-D5B89D96D214%40gmail.com. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F7415638-73B8-4E7C-B904-3D5367F982E6%40me.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F7415638-73B8-4E7C-B904-3D5367F982E6%40me.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>.
Re: More info in disappearing settings icons
Hello, If you open up the app switcher, then put focus on the problem app you can turn the rotor here to screen Recognition. This will allow you to turn it off for the app that is giving you an issue. I know this works because I have had to do it a couple of times. Greg Wocher > On Aug 10, 2021, at 2:15 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > This does not work as Screen Recognition will not appear in the rotor for > that app if this behaviour is present. What happens is that VO gets stuck in > the Status bar, and any attempts at moving focus out of the Status bar are > thwarted. So, because it is in the Status bar, not the Settings app, Screen > recognition does not present itself as an option in the rotor. Sighted > assistance is necessary as the remedy requires VO to be off. > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Professional Learning Specialist > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Aug 10, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Brett Lewis > <mailto:brettle...@brettlewis.us>> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> Another option is you can add the screen recognition to the rotor and that >> way it’s accessible if it accidentally gets turned on for a particular app. >> >> Brett >> >> >>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 1:23 AM, kglists via MacVisionaries >>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello. >>> >>> Just to say that I had this problem a few weeks ago. As I have no vision, >>> I used my mac to restore my I phone and then had to get a recent update on >>> it and then make sure that my phone had gone to factory defaults and then >>> get the phone to restore itself from a recent back up. I hate that voice >>> recognition. >>> >>> Kawal. >>> >>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 8:58 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: More info in disappearing settings icons >>> >>> Hi Greg, >>> >>> Thanks. I ended up calling Apple Accessibility. They couldn’t figure it >>> out either, so I ended up resetting all my settings. Kind of a pain, but >>> it took care of the problem. >>> >>> Just for grins, I did what you suggested, just to see what I could see. >>> There was nothing pertaining to Recognition in the rotor, the closest thing >>> I saw was Direct Touch. I suppose it’s possible that somehow that got set >>> to On, but I sure can’t imagine how. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> On Aug 7, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Greg Wocher >> <mailto:gtwoc...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> Move to the app switcher and make sure focus is on settings. Once focus is >>> on setting turn the rotor to screen recognition and flick up till it says >>> it is off. This should solve this issue. >>> >>> Greg Wocher >>> >>> >>> >>> On Aug 7, 2021, at 2:34 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Tim, >>> >>> So when I go into Settings, if VO is on, focus is locked on the Status bar. >>> Neither my husband nor I can scroll down. The minute I three-finger >>> swipe, it opens the control center. I finally got into the VO screen by >>> turning Voiceover off, having my husband scroll down, turn VO back on. But >>> he said it shows white instead of green, and when He taps Recognition, >>> nothing happens. Any thoughts? >>> Thanks, >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> On Aug 7, 2021, at 11:34 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>> mailto:Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Maybe check if Screen Recognition has been enabled for the Settings app. >>> Your husband may need to do this due to the current inaccessibility of the >>> Settings. It would be found in Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, >>> VoiceOver Recognition. Usually this can be accomplished using the rotor, >>> but if the screen recognition won’t let you work within the Settings app, >>> you kind of end up in a usele
Re: More info in disappearing settings icons
Hello, Move to the app switcher and make sure focus is on settings. Once focus is on setting turn the rotor to screen recognition and flick up till it says it is off. This should solve this issue. Greg Wocher > On Aug 7, 2021, at 2:34 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Tim, > > So when I go into Settings, if VO is on, focus is locked on the Status bar. > Neither my husband nor I can scroll down. The minute I three-finger swipe, > it opens the control center. I finally got into the VO screen by turning > Voiceover off, having my husband scroll down, turn VO back on. But he said > it shows white instead of green, and when He taps Recognition, nothing > happens. Any thoughts? > Thanks, > Donna > >> On Aug 7, 2021, at 11:34 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> mailto:Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Maybe check if Screen Recognition has been enabled for the Settings app. >> Your husband may need to do this due to the current inaccessibility of the >> Settings. It would be found in Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, >> VoiceOver Recognition. Usually this can be accomplished using the rotor, >> but if the screen recognition won’t let you work within the Settings app, >> you kind of end up in a useless loop. >> >> Later… >> >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Jamf Certified Tech >> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >> Apple Teacher >> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >>> On Aug 7, 2021, at 10:11 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> So this morning I had my husband look at my phone screen. He said that all >>> my icons and their labels are showing on the screen. So it seems that the >>> problem isn’t that they aren’t there, but rather that Voiceover isn’t >>> reading them. I re-booted my phone before going to sleep last night, and >>> still, the only thing VO will read once I open settings is the Status bar. >>> I’d greatly appreciate any help or suggestions anyone can offer. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/733E607D-E262-4613-B79D-AAF6917BC88D%40me.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/733E607D-E262-4613-B79D-AAF6917BC88D%40me.com>. >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >> --- >&
Re: Two questions re configuring speech on my M1 Mac
Hello, I thought that you could adjust the sound there but I was wrong. If you go to system preferences/sound and then choose the output tab you can adjust the system volume there. This might be what you are looking for. Greg WOcher > On Aug 3, 2021, at 4:19 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Greg, > > Thanks for the help. I find an option to adjust the speaking rate, but not > voice volume. Am I missing something? > Cheers, > Donna >> On Aug 3, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Greg Wocher wrote: >> >> Hello, >> The settings for the system voice can be found in system preferences. Go to >> system preferences/accessibility. Once you get to the accessibility settings >> you will find a table to select different options. Look for the one called >> spoken content. This is where you will find the options to select the >> settings for the system voice. >> >> Greg Wocher >> >> >>> On Aug 3, 2021, at 3:40 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: >>> >>> Hi Donna, >>> >>> Well, then I will be interested to learn the answer to that as well. What >>> about the two keystrokes I mention being function key 11 and function key >>> 12? Does not affect the system voice? Anyway, hope you get your question >>> answered soon. >>> Best, Les >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Aug 3, 2021, at 3:36 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Les, >>>> >>>> You do that to adjust the VO voice that you have selected, that is the >>>> voice that reads the screen and stuff. I’m talking about the system >>>> voice, the one that gives you system alerts, speaks at login,, etc. That >>>> control isn’t in the menu that you’re talking about. Thanks, though. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>>> On Aug 3, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Donna, >>>>> >>>>> I don’t have my Mac with me, but I believe for adjusting the volume you >>>>> need to do VO shift left and right arrow or VO shift command left and >>>>> right arrow to move through the categories. Once you land and volume you >>>>> will use the same combination but with a downer or a payroll to adjust >>>>> the volume lower or higher. Now, if by chance your function keys are such >>>>> a control your max media capability, then it’s a lot easier. F 11 lower >>>>> volume and F 12 raises it. Hope this helps. Take care. >>>>> Best, >>>>> Les >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2021, at 12:14 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> First, I use multiple languages, so am trying to configure the voices >>>>>> for my secondary languages. I go into VO utility, select Speech, select >>>>>> the language in question, and select customize to change the voice. I >>>>>> can go into the list of voices, but can’t seem to check the one I want. >>>>>> Pressing Space does nothing, Pressing VO-Space does nothing, and >>>>>> pressing Enter closes the customize dialog. Any suggestions? >>>>>> >>>>>> Second, my system voice is REALLY loud. I would like to lower the >>>>>> volume, but can’t find where to do it. Anyone know how to do this? >>>>>> TIA, >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>>> >>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>>&g
Re: Two questions re configuring speech on my M1 Mac
Hello, The settings for the system voice can be found in system preferences. Go to system preferences/accessibility. Once you get to the accessibility settings you will find a table to select different options. Look for the one called spoken content. This is where you will find the options to select the settings for the system voice. Greg Wocher > On Aug 3, 2021, at 3:40 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: > > Hi Donna, > > Well, then I will be interested to learn the answer to that as well. What > about the two keystrokes I mention being function key 11 and function key 12? > Does not affect the system voice? Anyway, hope you get your question answered > soon. > Best, Les > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 3, 2021, at 3:36 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi Les, >> >> You do that to adjust the VO voice that you have selected, that is the voice >> that reads the screen and stuff. I’m talking about the system voice, the >> one that gives you system alerts, speaks at login,, etc. That control isn’t >> in the menu that you’re talking about. Thanks, though. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >>> On Aug 3, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: >>> >>> Hi Donna, >>> >>> I don’t have my Mac with me, but I believe for adjusting the volume you >>> need to do VO shift left and right arrow or VO shift command left and right >>> arrow to move through the categories. Once you land and volume you will use >>> the same combination but with a downer or a payroll to adjust the volume >>> lower or higher. Now, if by chance your function keys are such a control >>> your max media capability, then it’s a lot easier. F 11 lower volume and F >>> 12 raises it. Hope this helps. Take care. >>> Best, >>> Les >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Aug 3, 2021, at 12:14 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> First, I use multiple languages, so am trying to configure the voices for >>>> my secondary languages. I go into VO utility, select Speech, select the >>>> language in question, and select customize to change the voice. I can go >>>> into the list of voices, but can’t seem to check the one I want. Pressing >>>> Space does nothing, Pressing VO-Space does nothing, and pressing Enter >>>> closes the customize dialog. Any suggestions? >>>> >>>> Second, my system voice is REALLY loud. I would like to lower the volume, >>>> but can’t find where to do it. Anyone know how to do this? >>>> TIA, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/03A50007-D4F2-4473-8912-6C8370518D02%40me.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>&
Re: the Brave Browser
Hello, >From the little bit of testing I have done with it, it is accessible on the >Mac. It works similarly to that of the edge and chrome browsers. Greg Wocher > On Jul 4, 2021, at 10:58 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: > > I read in top Tech Tidbits that the Brave Browser was coming out. it's > supposed to be based on chrome but filter out ads. I might assume that since > it was announced in that publication it would be accessible but it's probably > better not to assume. has anybody tried it on their Mac and if so, how does > it work? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4F7CF690-097C-4082-954A-A23BE2363096%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2311CFE1-6458-44F6-8E18-73622619F2D8%40gmail.com.
Re: Web sites maxing resources in Safari.
Hello, First you need to go into safari preferences and enable the developers menu. This is under the advanced settings. Once you have the developer menu enabled, you can disable javascript from within it. Greg Wocher > On Feb 19, 2021, at 3:41 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: > > Where do I go to disable Javascript? > >> On Feb 19, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Greg Wocher > <mailto:gtwoc...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> I am using a 2020 13 inch MacBook Pro with 16gigs of memory and a quad core >> I5. As soon as I open the page I keep getting safari busy messages. I cannot >> even read anything on the page at all. There is something going on. I am not >> sure what it is. >> >> Greg Wocher >> >>> On Feb 19, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jessica Moss >> <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> The following url: >>> >>> https://omnicommander.com <https://omnicommander.com/> >>> >>> Is currently maxing all the resources on my Mac, and this is after having >>> to do a fresh install of Big Sur, due to what I thought the issue was >>> (Citrix Server not uninstalling correctly and burying itself in multiple >>> places on my computer to the point where removing it was too much of a >>> pain.) >>> However, even after erasing my main drive, reinstalling Big Sur, and >>> trying to launch the site again, which we’re currently revamping, and I’m >>> needing to test for accessibility, all it’s doing on my end is causing my >>> fan to run harder than it should, and Safari to constantly display busy >>> messages. Could someone please let me know if this is happening to anyone >>> else, and what I may be able to do at this point to fix it? >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C63FF8E4-AA84-497C-92B2-D7A5E00AFECD%40gmail.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C63FF8E4-AA84-497C-92B2-D7A5E00AFECD%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/57758331-BE59-45F1-B40F-A578C6002B0C%40gmail.com &
Re: Web sites maxing resources in Safari.
Hello, It appears it might have something to do with javascript. Once I opened up safari and disabled javascript, the page loaded. I was able to navigate it without all the busy messages. Greg Wocher > On Feb 19, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: > > The following url: > > https://omnicommander.com <https://omnicommander.com/> > > Is currently maxing all the resources on my Mac, and this is after having to > do a fresh install of Big Sur, due to what I thought the issue was (Citrix > Server not uninstalling correctly and burying itself in multiple places on my > computer to the point where removing it was too much of a pain.) > However, even after erasing my main drive, reinstalling Big Sur, and trying > to launch the site again, which we’re currently revamping, and I’m needing to > test for accessibility, all it’s doing on my end is causing my fan to run > harder than it should, and Safari to constantly display busy messages. Could > someone please let me know if this is happening to anyone else, and what I > may be able to do at this point to fix it? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C63FF8E4-AA84-497C-92B2-D7A5E00AFECD%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C63FF8E4-AA84-497C-92B2-D7A5E00AFECD%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/9B5D4C9E-C123-47DB-838F-11A0835F97E8%40gmail.com.
Re: Web sites maxing resources in Safari.
Hello, I am using a 2020 13 inch MacBook Pro with 16gigs of memory and a quad core I5. As soon as I open the page I keep getting safari busy messages. I cannot even read anything on the page at all. There is something going on. I am not sure what it is. Greg Wocher > On Feb 19, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: > > The following url: > > https://omnicommander.com <https://omnicommander.com/> > > Is currently maxing all the resources on my Mac, and this is after having to > do a fresh install of Big Sur, due to what I thought the issue was (Citrix > Server not uninstalling correctly and burying itself in multiple places on my > computer to the point where removing it was too much of a pain.) > However, even after erasing my main drive, reinstalling Big Sur, and trying > to launch the site again, which we’re currently revamping, and I’m needing to > test for accessibility, all it’s doing on my end is causing my fan to run > harder than it should, and Safari to constantly display busy messages. Could > someone please let me know if this is happening to anyone else, and what I > may be able to do at this point to fix it? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C63FF8E4-AA84-497C-92B2-D7A5E00AFECD%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C63FF8E4-AA84-497C-92B2-D7A5E00AFECD%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/57758331-BE59-45F1-B40F-A578C6002B0C%40gmail.com.
Re: Proper Setup of Mail with VoiceOver
Hello, I use command plus option plus up or down arrows to move to the top or bottom of the list of messages. I find that option plus the arrow keys does not work. Greg Wocher > On Jan 12, 2021, at 10:37 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: > > I'm not a major Mac user. In particular, I don't use Safari or Mail. I prefer > the user experience provided by other operating systems and screenreaders. > However, last night I had to work on someone's Mac that was having email > problems. I ironed out the problems, but along the way, discovered that Mail > was not set up optimally for use with VoiceOver. Specifically, I couldn't use > Option-Up/Down Arrow keys to get to the top and bottom of the messages table, > and there are a lot of sidebars and other views that are open which to me > seem needless and cluttery. I look at this AppleVis article > <https://www.applevis.com/guides/macs-mail-app-explained> which was helpful > in certain ways but did not address any of the things mentioned above despite > it having been written in 2014 and updated just last week. Can someone > amplify or further explain some of these things? In particular, moving > through the messages table a page at a time or getting to the top/bottom of > said table would be quite helpful, as one such table in one mailbox folder > has over 2000 messages in it. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/107e25be-492d-4c7a-3efe-b6d2ab3f5562%40noisynotes.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/107e25be-492d-4c7a-3efe-b6d2ab3f5562%40noisynotes.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F691AE64-1BEA-4B83-B0FD-279D9505AFDF%40gmail.com.
Re: Recorded demo on my M1
Hello, The new MacBook Pro still has the Touch Bar. The only MacBook without it is the MacBook Air. Greg Wocher > On Dec 8, 2020, at 9:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Nice video, Joe. Thanks for doing this. I've been on the fence about whether > to upgrade my Mac or my iPad. I tend to think of my Mac as a work device and > my iPad as a fun device, so was glad to see you focus on how iPad apps work > on the Mac > > One question. Does the 13-inch pro have a touch bar oor function keys? If I > upgrade my Mac, I'm determined to lose the touch bar. lol > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Dec 8, 2020, at 5:57 AM, joseph hodge wrote: >> >> I thought you guys may be interested to hear some performance of my MacBook >> Pro M1. >> The battery life on this thing is amazing I woke up today and it's still at >> 54% and I used it all day yesterday! It is pretty neat! Here's a video on >> YouTube where I demonstrate using a few iPad OS apps! >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wYGC4cuybo&lc=Ugy2Us-bXTOmzXaCTt94AaABAg&feature=em-comments >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/05E16533-4454-423B-BDD5-0B93E3D4F23D%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DB470542-4B02-4205-9616-0977D82B9142%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/6EAAF5BB-FF7F-4783-8725-95CCD865C199%40gmail.com.
Re: Help, iPhone upgrade from hell
Hello, Usually I just place the camera right against the watch and then slowly raise it straight up. This usually works. I have tried to manually pair it once but I was not able to get the watch to show up to pair. Greg Wocher > On Dec 4, 2020, at 12:57 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Thank you! Disabling screen rec did the trick for the app store. How do you > get the watch to line up with the camera? I've never been able to do that. > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Dec 4, 2020, at 9:10 AM, Greg Wocher wrote: >> >> Hello, >> If you are using a iPhone 10R or above voiceovers recognition options might >> be interfering with the App Store. If you can turn off screen recognition >> for the App Store and this might help. As for the watch I am not sure. I >> have never used pair manually. I always use the camera. >> >> Greg Wocher >> >> >>> On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:50 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Well, subject pretty much says it all, but here are my two questions for >>> the list. >>> >>> I can’t access the app store from either phone now. The My Account Button >>> isn’t even there, all I get is a screen showing best apps of 2020. Any >>> thoughts? >>> >>> Second, the new phone won’t see my watch. As in, it doesn’t even appear in >>> the list of devices seen after I tap pair manually. Any thoughts? And yes, >>> I’ve powered both devices off and on, and the watch is unpaired from my old >>> phone. >>> TIA, >>> Donna >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/673FC376-DB6B-495C-BE72-959988E215C9%40me.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2CEDD187-EB88-45B8-B81E-248DBC53D7E6%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are s
Re: Help, iPhone upgrade from hell
Hello, If you are using a iPhone 10R or above voiceovers recognition options might be interfering with the App Store. If you can turn off screen recognition for the App Store and this might help. As for the watch I am not sure. I have never used pair manually. I always use the camera. Greg Wocher > On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:50 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Well, subject pretty much says it all, but here are my two questions for the > list. > > I can’t access the app store from either phone now. The My Account Button > isn’t even there, all I get is a screen showing best apps of 2020. Any > thoughts? > > Second, the new phone won’t see my watch. As in, it doesn’t even appear in > the list of devices seen after I tap pair manually. Any thoughts? And yes, > I’ve powered both devices off and on, and the watch is unpaired from my old > phone. > TIA, > Donna > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/673FC376-DB6B-495C-BE72-959988E215C9%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2CEDD187-EB88-45B8-B81E-248DBC53D7E6%40gmail.com.
Re: Column view in Finder on Bigsur and the Tab key.
Hello, If you are in column view, you can use VO plus left and right arrows to do the same thing as just using the arrow keys used to do. This is a possible bug that has been reported to apple. Greg Wocher > On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:53 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Apple's documentation indicates that using right/left-arrow to > expand/collapse folders works only in list view. > https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201236 > > On 11/15/20, 11:26, "Paul Hopewell" behalf of hopew...@hopewell.org.uk> wrote: > >Hello, >Column view is my preferred Finder interface. In the past I used to use > Right Arrow to expand a folder and Left Arrow to colllapse a folder. This no > longer works in Bigsur. >However using Tab to expand a folder and Shift+Tab to collapse a folder > works fine. I recall this is how Windows works. I prefer the Right Arrow and > Left Arrow but can live with the Tab key approach. >Hope this helps others who have encountered this problem. >Best regards … Paul Hopewell > >-- >The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > >If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >The archives for this list can be searched at: >http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C38F22FF-7AD6-4F65-B89C-4D6419969CE8%40hopewell.org.uk. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/AD02FE90-833E-4255-82B2-B96FDD54834D%40jasonjgw.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/71EBD679-5D8E-4DB3-939D-3475735CB34C%40gmail.com.
Re: mac OS big sur, compact list of questions after upgrading
Hello, I am also seeing the issues with column view in the finder. A work around is to use VO plus left and right arrows instead of just the arrow keys. Also make sure you interact using VO plus shift plus down arrow. This is a bug that has been reported to apple. Greg Wocher > On Nov 14, 2020, at 10:43 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > How are you trying to expand/collapse subdirectories in the finder’s list > view? Move to a subdirectory and type VO-Backslash to expand/collapse it. Let > us know whether that works. > > > >> On Nov 13, 2020, at 23:15, Yuma Decaux wrote: >> >> Hi ALl, >> >> I've upgraded to mac OS big sur, and it has solved some issues and created >> some new ones. I will adress myself to this list to ask if anyone has found >> solutions to the issues below: >> 1-Finder in list mode does not navigate sub directories anymore, so I am >> having to use list view instead of column view. List view is significantly >> slower as you need to expand folders, and you're actually expanding the >> entire directory tree, rather than jumping into the sub directory and >> searching within that directory. Anyone have this problem and anyone found a >> solution to this? >> 2-There's a sound that keeps playing intermittently, like some kind of timed >> sound (the chime is like the older bonk type sound from catalina). It's >> driving me absolutely crazy. I went to notifications, turned everything off, >> but it still keeps on playing. Anyone got this as well, and for god's sake, >> has anyone found a way to turn it off? >> 3-The touch bar, to my taste, is very clunky and slow to react sometimes. >> This is a major issue as I map most of my function keys to application >> shortcuts so I can quickly switch between apps. On some occasions, the touch >> bar literally doesn't respond no matter what I do. this is a flawed design >> decision, whether hardware or software, and it has decreased my >> productivity. Anyone encountered this problem, anyone found a solution or >> reported a bug? >> >> Apart from the above, seems my voice over has stopped freezing regularly. I >> got a new macbook 16 inch, all boosted to the max, and this still occured, >> so I was very annoyed, having to toggleVO on and off each time. This is >> gone, so one good for 3 bads. >> >> Have a great weekend, >> >> Yuma >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/97A8E09C-3940-4917-989E-B1500B488157%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/BC2189D5-9E0D-4790-95B7-38A232DEBF7F%40jasonjgw.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Ma
Re: Tweetbot for Mac OS with VoiceOver
Hello, The last I knew it was not accessible with VoiceOver at all. This was a year or so ago, so things may have changed since then. Greg Wocher > On Oct 14, 2020, at 9:21 AM, Tibor Niesner wrote: > > Hello all, > > I want to try Tweetbot. How is it accessible with VoiceOver? > Can I buy it, or not? > > Thank you. > > Best regard. > > Tibor Niesner > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/38ACC2FF-F7D0-4F63-AA1E-0643DD58BB40%40seznam.cz. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2EE6A32A-28AA-4162-864C-9BFD7EFF%40gwocher.com.
Re: Safari Version 14
Hello, I just tried this in what is called the safari technology preview and things work as normal. This is basically the beta version of safari. Hopefully with the next version of safari that comes out the issues will be fixed. Greg Wocher > On Sep 25, 2020, at 9:47 AM, Brianna Snyder wrote: > > Hi, > > I can definitely tell you that I'd love to go back to Safari 13. I'm running > Catalina. I am now unable to select or interact with text. I get taken to > another part of the page every time I try. It's a pretty big showstopper. > > Brianna > >> On Sep 24, 2020, at 3:47 PM, Traci Duncan wrote: >> >> Hi, I am actually having Safari crash on me. It did it repeatedly >> yesterday. I’m running Catalina. >> >> Traci >> >> >>> On Sep 24, 2020, at 6:23 AM, Herbie Allen wrote: >>> >>> You have to tab several times. You will encounter two things that say >>> bookmarks. You want the second thing. >>> >>> >>> Herbie >>> >>>>> On Sep 24, 2020, at 02:31, Anders Holmberg wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> Yes, that’s something i still wonder. >>>> I can’t find them if i don’t go into the bookmarks menu. >>>> /A >>>> >>>>> 23 sep. 2020 kl. 22:36 skrev Herbie Allen : >>>>> >>>>> Are you able to upgrade to Catalina? I updated my Safari last week and >>>>> the only difference I have experienced is where the bookmarks are located >>>>> now. >>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2020, at 13:07, Pete De Vasto wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> My sighted wife’s iMac, running Mojave, automatically updated to Safari >>>>>> 14 a few days ago, and she immediately started having problems with some >>>>>> sites giving messages about having difficulty loading. She also pointed >>>>>> out that things looked quite different from what she had previously >>>>>> under Safari 13. I’m the techie of the family, but my Mac mini, also >>>>>> running Mojave, had not updated to Safari 14 yet. I decided to bite the >>>>>> bullet and bring my system up to the same level as hers in hopes I could >>>>>> be of some help to her, so I now also have Safari 14. Boy, what a heck >>>>>> of a difference! Has anyone else been upgraded to Safari 14, and if so >>>>>> what have your experiences been? I’m a bit overwhelmed, and my first >>>>>> thought is I’d love to go back to Safari 13, but I bet that’s not >>>>>> possible given how Apple does things. I’ll just have to figure out how >>>>>> to get the best experiences with it. By the way, I think I reached out a >>>>>> day or two ago asking about the site reloading issue, and think now that >>>>>> it might have something to do with Safari 14, but not sure. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for any thoughts! >>>>>> Pete De Vasto >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>>> >>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/41C2A2B7-6CEE-4099-96D5-22EC01650023%40gmail.com. >>>>> >
Re: Unlocking Macbook with Applewatch.
Hello, You need to use the button that brings up the dock. Double click that one twice. Greg Wocher > On Aug 26, 2020, at 2:17 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > I have set my apple watch up to unlock my mac. > But where should i doublet? > Is it the crown or somewhere on the screen. > I have tried both and nothing happens. > Help is appreciated. > /A > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/93257F1F-3BE7-4FDB-85D0-169FBD95F30D%40pipkrokodil.se. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/9B92470A-5C5E-411A-862F-B88177285521%40gwocher.com.
Re: Looking for accessible HTML editor
Hello, There is a free editor in the App Store. It is called COT Editor. It is accessible. There is also an editor called Code Runner that can be purchased from the Code Runner website for around $15. It is also accessible. Either one of these can be used to edit HTML documents. Greg Wocher > On Aug 25, 2020, at 11:03 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > HTML can also be edited directly in textedit without going through changing > the file name. I believe you have to go into the settings and tell it to > treat html as plain text otherwise, it will open a rich text editor, which > might work depending on your needs. > I have also played around with the Visual Studio Code from Microsoft. This is > a version of Visual Studio that runs within a web browser like interface. > There are quite a few customizations available for it too, though I don’t > know if there are any to improve its usefulness when blind. > > >> On Aug 25, 2020, at 9:52 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries >> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Best I’ve found is Emacs with Emacspeak, but that’s a lot of setting up >> <https://gist.github.com/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043>, so you could >> also use TextMate. TextEdit also allows you to write in Rich text and >> convert to HTML, or something like that >> <https://support.apple.com/guide/textedit/work-with-html-documents-txted0b6cd61/mac>. >> Devin Prater >> d.pra...@me.com <mailto:d.pra...@me.com> >> Https://devinprater.github.io <https://devinprater.github.io/> >> >>> On Aug 24, 2020, at 5:03 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries >>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear List, Is there a free accessible html editor? >>> As of now I rename the .html to .txt and open it with Text Edit. >>> But I would like to know if there’s a easy way to do it using a html editor >>> on the Mac. >>> Thanks, >>> Rob >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B6B65BBA-152A-4D5D-936C-FA6275CCDB24%40icloud.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B6B65BBA-152A-4D5D-936C-FA6275CCDB24%40icloud.com>. >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macv
Re: Using Outlook on the Mac
Hello, I found this on the web: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/basic-tasks-using-a-screen-reader-with-email-in-outlook-3fe74ea4-b512-490f-bb42-95fdeb722b9e <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/basic-tasks-using-a-screen-reader-with-email-in-outlook-3fe74ea4-b512-490f-bb42-95fdeb722b9e> It might be what you are looking for. Greg Wocher > On Aug 5, 2020, at 3:07 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: > > I’d love this as well, sense I’m finding it a pain in the butt to even > navigate to my e-mail folders with it. > >> On Aug 5, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Paul Parravano wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> I’m beginning to use Outlook and am wondering if there is a key command list >> or a getting-started piece that might be helpful? I began with writing an >> email and found that when I hit the enter key, I’m not getting a new line, >> but rather being moved to another part of Outlook. Hoping to get acquainted >> with calendar and contact, called people, as well. >> >> Thanks for any guidance. I did use Outlook in Windows, but that was several >> years ago. I’m trying to switch from Apple mail now to see how it goes. >> >> Thanks again, >> >> Paul >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/48DDEA24-AA4A-44FE-8C8A-D4251AF83CA9%40mit.edu. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/19AD7C60-CBAE-4464-B8CF-BD7706599118%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DAF17502-660F-4EA3-98DA-351D6753C74E%40gwocher.com.
Re: Twitterrific busy
Hello, I am using Twitterific just fine on my MacBook Pro running macOS 10.15.6. I am not seeing it go busy at all. This is odd. Greg Wocher > On Jul 28, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: > > Thanks, I hope so as well. I can’t run Night Owl on High Sierra. :( > > This was the whole reason for purchasing Twitterrific. > > > Traci > > >> On Jul 27, 2020, at 4:53 PM, N2KPV > <mailto:bennnyconstant...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi Traci, I posted 6 months ago with the same problem . I even tried >> deleting the app and re-installing with no avail . I finally stopped using >> the app and am using Night Owl . I do like Twitterific better though. >> Hopefully some one has the answer out there . >> >> Ben C. >> >> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 3:26:40 PM UTC-4, Traci wrote: >> Hi all, lately when I launch Twitterrific on the Mac, it instantly says busy >> and is stuck this way for a while. >> >> Any tips or suggestions? >> >> Running High Sierra on a Mid 2011 MacBook Air. >> >> Thanks, >> Traci >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/b7b33d39-f22f-4a86-9b60-90198df55947o%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/b7b33d39-f22f-4a86-9b60-90198df55947o%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/D86FBB72-0CBD-4F40-95EA-F4ACA6D72A2B%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/D86FBB72-0CBD-4F40-95EA-F4ACA6D72A2B%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8EF1F34B-AB40-4DFE-BCAA-2A357B51FAE5%40gwocher.com.
Re: 2020 Macbook Pro 13"
Hello, I just got mine not to long ago. I have the tenth gen I5 with 16 gigs of ram and a 1 tb hard rive. So far it is working well. The Touch Bar is not hard to use. I have not found much use for it though. Most of what I used function keys for I can do with key commands. For example using VO plus the plus or minus keys to raise and lower volume. Also if you use VO plus function plus one of the number row keys you can activate most VO functions. For example VO plus function plus the number row one brings up the application chooser. Greg Wocher > On Jul 1, 2020, at 1:15 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > This is on my wish list but it will be a while. Meantime thise who got one, > what are your impressions so far? If you didn't have the Touch Bar before, > was it easy or difficult to get used to? > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4c293e72-95f2-7ced-f6d2-b0e5b3198810%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/521C248B-8054-4DEB-95E3-258D63B4F539%40gwocher.com.
Re: Question about mail app
Hello, Try using command plus 0 to bring back the message viewer. If you accidentally use command plus w instead of command plus q to quit it will close the windows and you will get that message. Its either this or sometimes it takes a few to actually close the app. Sometimes you will get that message if the program did not completely close. You can close it by force quitting the app. Greg Wocher > On Jun 29, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Rena wrote: > > Hello, > > When I opened mail, it said mail has no windows. > What does it mean? How can I fix it? > > Thanks, > > Rena > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can > reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/001401d64e1e%242d8c6790%2488a536b0%24%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/001401d64e1e%242d8c6790%2488a536b0%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/35976642-5D5E-4C93-A103-C8EF224C55AD%40gwocher.com.
Re: whitch Macbook pro
Hello, The only issue I am reading about with the new MacBook airs is that they run hot. Especially with the i7 versions. This is why I recently purchased the 13 inch MacBook Pro. I got the version with the 10th gen quad core i5, 16gigs of ram and a 1TB SSD. It is running very well. I am a little iffy on the Touch Bar. Its not hard to use, it just makes certain things a bit more difficult to do. For example raising or lowering the volume takes several double taps to perform. I do really like the new keyboards. They are nice and quiet with good separation between the keys. Greg Wocher > On Jun 28, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > You will manage with an Air i think. > And a good usb hub. > /A > >> 27 juni 2020 kl. 18:38 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> : >> >> Based on much of the comments to this thread, the MBP will stay on my list. >> I run VMware Fusion plus I have a media library. >> >> If I don't like the keyboard I can use my external one. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> Many believe that we have been visited >> in the past. What if it were true? >> >> On 6/26/2020 11:42 PM, Brad Snyder wrote: >>> don’t be fooled by the specs. The processor in the MacBook Pro smokes the >>> processor in the Air. >>> If all you want to do is email and browse the web, then go for the Air. >>> If you want to do real work, there is no substitute for the MacBook Pro. >>> Just don’t waste your money on the bottom level MacBook Pro with 2 USB-C >>> ports and the 8th generation processor. If you are thinking about that >>> one, you should go ahead and get the Air. It is a much better option for >>> your money. >>> - Brad - >>> On Jun 26, 2020, at 23:55, maurice mines >> <mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote: >>> Hello, I’m using a MacBook Pro 2020 I been using it for not quite a week >>> now yes the Touch Bar takes it some getting used to. But but the main >>> reason why it is a MacBook Pro is because of my additional disability I >>> have a written expression disorder that if I typed this email you probably >>> would not be able to read it. Think of it as dyslexia of writing. So I use >>> dictation software. Like I said the Touch Bar is a bit weird but I’m slowly >>> learning to live with it. Very best wall. >>> Sincerely Maurice Mines. >>>> On Jun 26, 2020, at 20:37, Simon A Fogarty >>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi ET, >>>> >>>> I'm not a fan of the touch bar myself but Petrus Sterling is using a mac >>>> book pro with the touch bar and I believe he's very happy with it, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:06 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro >>>> >>>> I've been looking at this too. I'm not concerned about the Touch Bar >>>> though as I will likely get used to it. The 13" model with 4 USB ports >>>> starts at $1799. >>>> >>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>> in the past. What if it were true? >>>> >>>> On 6/26/2020 3:37 PM, 'andrew' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>> Hi all. >>>>> Thinking of upgrading my Macbook Pro 2013 to a new machine. >>>>> I need a nice full keyboard with sizable buttons and as many USB's as >>>>> I can get. >>>>> I hate the sound of the Tuch Bar that took over from the F keys. >>>>> I'll probably also get an external full size keyboard. >>>>> Any ideas on which model to look for. >>>>> Very best wishes. >>>>> Andy. >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >>>>> >>>>> Virus-free. www.avast.com <http://www.avast.com> >>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_ >>>>> campa
Re: Setting up Logictech K780 keyboard
Hello, Unfortunately the one time I did have this installed, I had to have my sighted son help me because the app is not accessible. The app is necessary to be able to change the behavior of the function keys. When you first get it the function keys will activate things like brightness and the like. This means you have to hit the function key along with the Keys to perform things like routing the vo cursor. Greg Wocher > On May 13, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > > Hello, > Many thanks for the recommendations for a full size bluetooth keyboard with > numeric keypad. I now have a Logictech K780 on order. > As preparation I am trying to download and install the Logictech options > software which you seem to need to tailor the keyboard for Mac OS. So far I > have failed to install this as the installer is not VoiceOver accessible. > Is this software essential and if so how have you installed it? Is it then > VoiceOver accessible? Alternatively can you do all the setup in the Mac OS > system preferences keyboard preferences? > Many thanks for any tips. > Best … Paul Hopewell > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B49C187E-A51E-487F-BA7F-4442F5E46F4A%40hopewell.org.uk. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/06240EE9-C82B-4B93-AE8F-207078E2D613%40gwocher.com.
Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key
Hello, I notice that control does not work very often to silence speech. It does not matter what voice I am using. Sometimes when I hit control it will even start speaking in a different voice than the one I am using. It is one of the most annoying frustrations I have with VoiceOver. Greg Wocher > On May 4, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Patrick Ford wrote: > > Hi, I am using Samantha and the control key does not work for silencing. I > thought it was because I had updated to catalina. it used to work just fine > but after catalina control key never worked again. > patrick > >> On May 4, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Pete De Vasto > <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Petrus, >> >> Out of curiosity, what voice are you currently using? I’m using Victoria, >> one of the old-time voices that’s been with VO forever, and the control key >> does exactly what I expect it to do. Have you tried switching to either her, >> or maybe Samantha, just to see what happens? >> >> Pete De Vasto >> >>> On May 4, 2020, at 7:21 AM, Eric Caron >> <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> It would be helpful if it worked. It would be a quick way to stop speech >>> in all kinds of situations. Mostly when my wife wants to tell me something >>> and the computer is talking so I can’t hear. But also when on a phone >>> call, or when I want to silence a long unneeded computer ramble. >>> >>> I have learned to restart voice over or turn the volume down but the >>> control key is faster and easier. And it has the advantage that a second >>> press starts speech where it left off. >>> >>> I notice just now that if I close my lid and then reopen the control key >>> feature no longer works. I have to restart Voice over. >>> >>> Unfortunately due to an active cat it is best if I shut my lid often. >>> >>> I’ll pay attention to see what else triggers the failure. >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> >>> >>> >>>> On May 4, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Anders Holmberg >>> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> It seems to do so on my computer using all english speaking voices but not >>>> when i use my swedish voice. >>>> Not sure why but thats how it is here. >>>> /A >>>> >>>>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 02:57 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>>> <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>>: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there >>>>> was a solution? >>>>> If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control >>>>> key to shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut >>>>> up for about five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many >>>>> times I press the control key VoiceOver will start reading again after >>>>> five seconds or so. So I just end up slamming the lid down just to keep >>>>> it quiet. Suppose I could mute VoiceOver but I thought the control key >>>>> was the way to do it. >>>>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - >>>>> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>>>> >>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
Re: Learning Terminal
Hello, There is a good podcast done on this. It can be found at: https://www.bartbusschots.ie/s/blog/taming-the-terminal/ <https://www.bartbusschots.ie/s/blog/taming-the-terminal/> It also has text tutorials to go along with it. Greg Wocher > On May 1, 2020, at 7:09 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > The subject says it. I want to learn more about this powerful app, and I'm > not sure how this is best done. Does anyone have book recommendations or > places on the web? > > Kristeen > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/AD280908-3A0A-42F1-BC5E-8A32E76675C4%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/1F1048BD-AC33-4E5B-8E6C-BFD66EC1B835%40gwocher.com.
Re: Forget This Device
Hello, You need to sign into your account at apple.com <http://apple.com/>. Once you go to the apple.com <http://apple.com/> website there is a manage my Apple ID link towards the bottom of the page. Activate that link and you will be asked for your Apple ID and password. You should also get a code on your phone that you will need to put in. On the page that comes up after logging in there should be a section with trusted devices. In this section you should find the device you need to remove. Greg Wocher > On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:56 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I've been asked by an organization who received my old iPad that I need to > do the 'Forget This Device' in iCloud. Problem is, I do not see it listed > anywhere. Where might I check this so I can be sure it's done? > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5d228fbf-c34b-b1dc-9482-de1cac45e34b%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E78BF7C2-9E2E-4422-B3E1-9263EC12B47C%40gwocher.com.
Apple care question
Hello all, I am getting ready to purchase a new iPad Pro. Can I purchase apple care after or do I have to purchase it with the device? Greg Wocher -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/1A394211-8503-4260-8941-F015A64A35B2%40gwocher.com.
Re: A couple Terminal questions
Hello,
Here is a podcast dedicated to learning the terminal on the Mac. It is called
taming the terminal.
https://www.bartbusschots.ie/s/blog/taming-the-terminal/
<https://www.bartbusschots.ie/s/blog/taming-the-terminal/>
There is also a text tutorial for each of the individual podcasts.
Greg Wocher
> On Mar 30, 2020, at 6:40 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Hi Janina,
>
> Just to report that I have just successfully put the info from ls -l command
> into a text file using redirection and the greater than > sign. It’s worked!
> How clever. So exciting! When you use in your description the verb
> “sound”, do you mean send/write content or result of the command into a file?
>
> I think I’d better leave the Homebrew and gawk alone. . I think you
> meant it for Simon, as he’s obviously very adept at cli already.
>
> I will have to go through your budget example very carefully a few times to
> attempt to understand exactly how it’s done. But it’s impressive as well.
>
> By the way, Janina, how does one run, say, a browser from the command
> line/terminal? It is probably a special browser and once you run it, do you
> access the info on the webpage in the usual way? I’m asking with trepidation
> aware of possibly sounding like a fool.
>
> Best
>
> Andrew
>> On 30 Mar 2020, at 09:40, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>> wrote:
>>
>> Simon, Andrew, All:
>>
>> Simon is correct. The correct switches will indeed allow you to write
>> the output of any command to a file. This works everywhere, because
>> everybody wants this kind of functionality--whether Mac, Windows, or
>> Linux/Unix.
>>
>> It's called redirection, and it goes one of two ways:
>>
>> Using the greater than symbol, namely '>' you send output somewhere.
>> Using my last example of the env command, here's a command that sounds
>> the output of env into a file:
>>
>> env > my_environment.txt
>>
>> The other direction reads input FROM somewhere.
>>
>> The symbol for this is the less than symbol, i.e. '<' and takes
>> whatever is in the file as input into the command.
>>
>> The uses of this second one are a bit harder for newbies to understand,
>> but trust me, you're going to love it.
>>
>> Here's a quick and dirty example. Unfortunately, you first have to get
>> the gawk command installed, as the script below uses gaw.
>>
>> If you have homebrew, the task is simple:
>>
>> homebrew install gawk
>>
>> Back to an example of indirection: Need to sum your monthly budget? Keep
>> your income and expenses in an ascii text file where the first word is a
>> number. Positive numbers are for income, and negative numbers for
>> expenses: eg.,
>>
>> 1000 weekly check from my boss for working too hard
>> -90 this months utility bill
>>
>> Need comments in your file? No problem. Any first word not a number is
>> just ignored, and you can temporarily even take numbers out of the
>> calculation by commenting them, e.g.:
>>
>> #70 cell phone service--just paid it
>>
>> Now create the following as a script file, meaning take this content and
>> make it executable:
>>
>>
>> #!/bin/bash
>> gawk '{ sum += $1 }; END { print sum }'
>>
>>
>> Bingo, you've got a script in a file, meaning you've got a new command.
>> I call mine 'sumit' as in sum it. So, if my income and expenses are in a
>> file called budget.txt, I can simply do:
>>
>> sumit >
>> And hear I've got 910 left.
>>
>> Simon A Fogarty writes:
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>
>>> Terminal should let you do what your after,
>>>
>>> With the listing of files and if you use the correct switchs you should be
>>> able to write the list of files and associated data to a file
>>> I know it's possible to do this in ms dos and power shell, so I would think
>>> linux etc would do the same thing.
>>>
>>> As for tab complete in the terminal,
>>>
>>> So long as you have the name correct to the point you hit the tab key then
>>> it should work for you.
>>> As long as there is a file or folder name with what your looking for.
>>>
>>> I use it when typing long commands like
>>> Sudo /Applications
>>> At the start of the creation of a bootable Usb flash drive.
>>>
>>> So as long as you have the name correct including any uppe
Re: A couple Terminal questions
Hello, You might want to try the TDSR console screen reader for Mac. It makes working with the terminal a bit easier. It can be found at: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr <https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr> Greg Wocher > On Mar 29, 2020, at 10:21 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > When working in Terminal and command line, is it possible to examine the > window content with Voiceover? Say , ls -l command produces a list of files > in the directory I am in. How can I examine each file and maybe even copy > their names to clipboard or details about them if I were to use the -l flag, > which would produce long information about each item. > > Secondly, reading a book on Command Line, one of the shortcut techniques the > author teaches is to start typing the name of a directory to which one wishes > to change and then pressing tab, which would result in Terminal completing > the name or else giving a list of available names if there should be more > than one. This doesn’t seem to work. When I press the tab, I hear the > ominous bong bong. So this technique doesn’t work. Any thoughts on this? > > andrew > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/BB072597-FDA8-4971-B666-361890504466%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/0FFD2285-C62A-4115-B8FD-1DEE44486FA8%40gwocher.com.
Re: Zoom, and Voiceover accessibility information
Hello all, Jonathan Mosen has a book on his website called meet me in the cloud which goes over how to use zoom on different platforms. It includes how to set it up and use it on the Mac as well as iOS. It is a free book. Go to: www.mosen.org <http://www.mosen.org/> To find the book. Greg Wocher > On Mar 27, 2020, at 1:41 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Tim, > > You can write to me off list by emailing me at kawa...@me.com > <mailto:kawa...@me.com> if you want. >> On 27 Mar 2020, at 17:28, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries >> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> That would help Tim. >> >> I have also downloaded Zoom room and when that is launched, it says no >> window. I don’t understand it at all and I don’t know if I should install >> it either. >> >> I am using latest Mac OS. If you could help then that would be great thank >> you. My email address is different to the one I use on this list. So you >> can contact me off list if you like. >> >>> On 27 Mar 2020, at 16:59, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> That is not normal behaviour. For me, Zoom is listed under Microphone and >>> Camera in System Preferences, Security & Privacy, under the Privacy tab. >>> If you'd like, we can do a test Zoom meeting to see if those options come >>> up for you when you attempt to join a meeting. We can communicate via the >>> Chat option if it's still giving you grief during the test. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Jamf Certified Tech >>> Apple Teacher >>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 10:33, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries >>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Everyone. >>> >>> I downloaded Zoom US a few days ago to use it with someone but I can’t get >>> the sound or audio to work. I have been in system preferences but Zoom is >>> not listed in the applications. I want to unmute the microphone an camera. >>> When I try and access the settings in Zoom, the Mac freezes. I have tried >>> opening the preferences in zoom by pressing command comma but the Mac goes >>> busy. I need to use Zoom later on so could some one help please. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Kawal. >>> >>>> On 26 Mar 2020, at 03:37, PRAMIT BHARGAVA >>> <mailto:pramit.vis...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> To use Zoom client with MacOS Catalina you will be prompted to authorize >>>> the Zoom Desktop Client to use the microphone, camera and screen recording >>>> because of increased security and permissions with Mac OS. You will also >>>> be prompted to allow the Zoom Desktop Client to allow others to remotely >>>> control your desktop. You can click OK during the initial request and you >>>> will be able to use your microphone and camera in Zoom. >>>> Below link with provide you with the necessary information and have also >>>> added the keyboard shortcuts for MacOS also: >>>> >>>> https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/360016688031-Using-the-Zoom-Client-and-Zoom-Rooms-with-macOS >>>> >>>> <https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/360016688031-Using-the-Zoom-Client-and-Zoom-Rooms-with-macOS> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Command(⌘)+JJoin Meeting >>>> Command(⌘)+Control+VStart Meeting >>>> Command(⌘)+JSchedule Meeting >>>> Command(⌘)+Control+SScreen Share via Direct Share >>>> Command(⌘)+Shift+A Mute/unmute audio >>>> Command(⌘)+Control+MMute audio for everyone except the host (only >>>> available to the host) >>>> Command(⌘)+Control+UUnmute audio for everyone except host (only >>>> available to the host) >>>> Space Push to talk >>>> Command(⌘)+Shift+V Start/stop video >>>> Command(⌘)+Shift+N Switch camera >>>> Command(⌘)+Shift+S Start/stop screen share >>>> Command(⌘)+Shift+T Pause or resume screen share >>>> Command(⌘)+Shift+R Start local recordi
Re: Catalina: How Would I Put Audio Books on my iPHone?
Hello, Your phone will now show up in the finder window. You can put things on it from here. Greg Wocher > On Mar 21, 2020, at 1:05 AM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Have not yet gone over to Catalina, and I understand iTunes goes away. I put > a lot of audio books (.M4B format) on my iPhone for listening. Without > iTunes, how would this be done with Catalina? > . > > Dave Carlson > Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician > > > > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/9A4B30A5-2DF5-4D7D-93E1-3161601A3348%40sbcglobal.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/06BC6237-E28E-4567-8E3C-C5317133CD0C%40gwocher.com.
Re: Google Chrome on Mac
Hello, My biggest issue with chrome is that typing echo does not work. As I type it will not echo the characters or the words. The only way I can hear what I typed is to backspace over it. Is there a way to have VoiceOver echo characters or words in chrome? Greg Wocher > On Mar 20, 2020, at 12:53 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Erik, > > When in Chrome on the Mac, do the following: > > • press cmd-l to bring focus to the Address bar. > • enter "chrome://settings/system/ " (without the > quotes, of course) then press return. > • press VO-i to bring up the Item Chooser. > • type "acceleration" > > The choice that comes up should be to use hardware acceleration when > possible. Press return to go to that item. > > • VO-space on it so that it is deselected. > • Quit Chrome and re-launch and it should work normally. > > It seems illogical, but I've had to do this exact thing on hundreds of iMacs > at work and all is good now. > > Later... > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Mar 20, 2020, at 10:45, Erik Burggraaf <mailto:e...@erik-burggraaf.com>> wrote: > > Hi Desmond. > > I love chrome. I used it across Mac, windows and android where it served > extraordinarily well, synchronized my bookmarks and other amenities, and was > decent for at least the basics of web development. > > Around November, chrome updated itself automatically on my Mac and > accessibility fell right off the bottom of the chart. Pages began taking > 10-30 seconds to load. Focus refused to set to the web page viewer > automatically. Some web page elements such as tables stopped working for > navigation. It was a mess after being used to essentially seemless > experience for years. I am happy enough with safari on my Mac, but I was > crushed when Chrome became more or less unviable as it still works so well on > all my other systems. > > I continue to use it for web development on windows, though mainly for the > bare basics of making sure fonts and visuals are right, viewing the source of > a page and retrieving basic errors. I have good php and Javascript online > debuggers that I prefer for examining my code. > > Best, > > Erik > > > On March 17, 2020 7:36:34 AM Dezman Jackson <mailto:jackson.dez...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Good morning, > > Hope all are doing well. > Was just curious if anyone out here uses Chrome on the Mac with VoiceOver on > a regular bbasis?Personally, I don't find it to be all that er-friendly and > tend to use Safari. I am also interested in hearing from anyone who is > involved in web development and if you use the dev tools in Chrome. > > Regards, > Dezman > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can > reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B7F97B19-4466-4F75-AFE4-84D8568B31ED%40gmail.com. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed t
Re: No passcode sounds on Apple watch after latest update
Hello, I am using the latest watch OS on my 3rd gen watch and I get audio feedback when entering my passcode. It is very feint compared to what it used to be but its there. Greg Wocher > On Mar 9, 2020, at 11:59 AM, Bradford Snyder wrote: > > Yes. My watch does the same thing. I think it started doing this behavior > with watchOS 6.x. > I’ve just learned to live with it. > > - Brad - > > > > On Mar 9, 2020, at 07:47, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > I have just updated my Apple watch 4th generation to the latest iOS 6.1. Now > whenever I need to enter my passcode in order to unlock my watch, I receive > no sound feedback on doubletapping the numbers. Can anyone reproduce this? > If yes, is this a bug? > > Andrew > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/BC85B85C-16E7-4D83-976A-B8C45DAB45CD%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/68CE1A6E-EA4A-4EEA-8D8E-A820B72B7BFB%40swbell.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/0C096B6D-585C-465C-8864-793D54536821%40gwocher.com.
Re: Mac equivalent of JAWS Find Next?
Hello, Yes there is. The command is VoiceOver plus G for find next and VoiceOver plus shift plus g to find previous. Greg Wocher > On Feb 5, 2020, at 9:05 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi all, > > One thing I like about JAWS is the ability to initiate a JAWS find, and then > search for all subsequent occurrences of that text using F3. Is there some > equivalent of that for Mac/Voiceover? > TIA, > Donna > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4E0C77D0-B3C8-4363-8BFA-061522CC769A%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A9D44D86-079B-4FF0-BBB5-B561576BC684%40gwocher.com.
Re: Writing Documents using Catalina
Hello, It sounds like you might be talking about markdown. There is a free app that works fairly well. It is called macdown. Greg Wocher > On Feb 4, 2020, at 2:27 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > What is the markup language? Emacs may have a mode for it, and Pandoc can > convert to pdf and docs. > >> On Feb 4, 2020, at 12:51 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >> Hello, >> I find checking document layout particularly difficult using VO on Catalina. >> When at work I used a mark up language a bit like html with tags for new >> paragraphs, numbered and bulleted lists, list items, heading levels, and >> title pages. Using this I could be confident that the document layout was >> good. >> Is there any VO friendly App for Mac OS Catalina which uses mark up tags to >> create a document and then process it to create PDF or DOCX files? >> Many thanks for any tips. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/55CBCB3D-84D4-4F75-8BC7-6381FEFCE343%40hopewell.org.uk. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4FF5F857-C925-44E4-84B9-538B26DA3AAB%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/75E2C62C-230B-4A5C-8889-FB13D89746FE%40gwocher.com.
Re: IRC client for either macOS or iOS
Hello, Well I got colloquy for my iPhone. I did get connected to the server for my class. However how do I see the messages? I can type a message and send it but I do not see any kind of message list to see what I sent or what others sent. Any help is appreciated. Greg Wocher ' Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > > On the Mac I use Textual, and colloquy for iOS. > > Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates > Louie P (Pete) Nalda > MySpace.com/musikonalda > Facebook.com/lpnalda > Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda > Twitter: @lpnalda > >> On Jan 20, 2020, at 11:21 AM, Sandie Jazmin Kruse >> wrote: >> >> I believe there is Xchat, for mac , at least not sure about iOS. >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>>> On 20 Jan 2020, at 17.05, Greg Wocher wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, >>> Anyone know of an accessible IRC client for either macOS or iOS? I am >>> taking a python course and they set up an IRC channel for the class. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Greg Wocher >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/48EAFB6E-815C-4EFA-8BE3-B62E2A518FD7%40gwocher.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/936A0D50-CDFA-425F-9BC0-361F2A8DB7D1%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/6DA50E9A-494B-41EC-AE8A-4A67F9B1C079%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rathe
IRC client for either macOS or iOS
Hello all, Anyone know of an accessible IRC client for either macOS or iOS? I am taking a python course and they set up an IRC channel for the class. Thanks, Greg Wocher -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/48EAFB6E-815C-4EFA-8BE3-B62E2A518FD7%40gwocher.com.
Re: Plain Text Editor for iOS
Hello, Drafts might be a good choice for iPad and iPhone. It is both simple and it can also be complex when you get into drafts actions. It is free or you can pay $1.99 a month to add features. It is nice because as soon as you open it, it is in a text field ready to go. Greg Wocher > On Jan 19, 2020, at 10:23 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Another item I am looking into is simple plain nothing fancy text editor > for iPhone and iPad. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/aaa3313e-db48-e67d-05a1-d751cdeff1f7%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C461B469-7C21-4B23-8EE4-BA01538BE852%40gwocher.com.
Re: google chrome on Mac OS?
Hello, My biggest problem with chrome on my Mac is that it will not echo back what I am typing in. The only way I can get it to read back what I am typing is to arrow back over what I typed in. Greg Wocher. > On Jan 17, 2020, at 7:58 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Google Chrome seems to work well, except that I can't read Web pages reliably > with the braille display. Safari gives much better results. I don't know why. > I assume there's an implementation reason related to the accessibility > interfaces. > > On 1/17/20, 18:10, "Anders Holmberg" behalf of and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: > >Hi! >Here google chrome is not that of a problem. >I wonder why so many has problems with it lagging? >I rather have more problems with safari than google chrome. >Especially on some sites. >But firefox on linux breaks them all. >/A > >> 17 jan. 2020 kl. 08:52 skrev Simon A Fogarty : >> >> Hi Erik, >> >> I can't remember the correct name of it but a former colleague of mine who >> is a mac nut and sighted said he gave up on google chrome and has started >> using I think it's called Bravo >> Or something, I know it starts with B >> >> I'll email him to find out the correct name but I wondered how accessible it >> was with vo. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On >> Behalf Of Erik Burggraaf >> Sent: Friday, 17 January 2020 10:39 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: google chrome on Mac OS? >> >> I was very happy with chrome for years, but had to uninstall it from my mac >> a couple of months ago. It was taking an extravigantly long time to load >> webpages. It stopped setting focus to the html content and bogged down >> almost but not quite completely when I tried to navigate there. >> >> It was pretty ugly. >> >> Best, >> >> Erik >> >> >> On January 16, 2020 11:19:06 AM Matt wrote: >> >> Hi folks. >> >> for anyone using chrome, it appears that you can't use vo+J to jump around >> in chrome. >> >> And it keeps reading the webpage out, even though I have it turned off in VO >> utilities. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/0e55c207-fbb6-6440-1905-f1de08a3a4d7%40gmail.com. >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/16fb04bfa98.2777.076929f76817eefa7b63a96dc005a58f%40erik-burggraaf.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visiona
Re: Another clean install for me and a question
Hello, Okay this is getting wierd. I did the clean install and now I have three volumes labled macintosh hd data plus the system volume. Does anyone know if I can just delete the two extra volumes? If not what else can I try? Thanks, Greg Wocher Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 10, 2020, at 12:37 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > Do the following: > > 1. Restart your Mac. > 2. Hold down the cmd and r keys to make sure it starts in Recovery Mode. > 3. At the MacOS Utilities window, select Disk Utility then press Continue. > 4. In Disk Utility, in the Disk Selection table, select the first Macintosh > HD item. > 5. Stop interacting with the table and interact with the ToolBar. > 6. Press the Erase button in the ToolBar. > 7. Leave everything alone in this dialog and simply press the Erase button, > the last button in the dialog. > 8. Wait a bit and when the "Done" button is active, press it. > > This will take you back to the MacOS Utilities window. > > 9. In the table, select Re-Install Mac OS then press Continue. > 10 Follow the prompts, agreeing to all things that require agreement. > 11. Select Macintosh HD as your destination then press Continue. > > It will download the latest version of Catalina from Apple and go through the > installation process for you. After it restarts itself, follow the prompts > to set it up as your own once again. > > Later... > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Jan 10, 2020, at 10:25, Greg Wocher wrote: > > Hello, > I discovered that for some reason in my last clean install I ended up with > two macOS data volumes instead of just one. I think this is what is causing > some of my weird issues. So I am going to do another clean install this > weekend. Hopefully this time I will get it right. I wonder if I should erase > everything including the macOS system volume? This way there is nothing on > the computers hard drive at all. > > Thanks, > Greg Wocher > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/039C53E4-7616-42E7-B4C4-AFC3F585A941%40gwocher.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/39DABF79-6B36-4A1D-9985-63F4D3E931A5%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googleg
Another clean install for me and a question
Hello, I discovered that for some reason in my last clean install I ended up with two macOS data volumes instead of just one. I think this is what is causing some of my weird issues. So I am going to do another clean install this weekend. Hopefully this time I will get it right. I wonder if I should erase everything including the macOS system volume? This way there is nothing on the computers hard drive at all. Thanks, Greg Wocher -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/039C53E4-7616-42E7-B4C4-AFC3F585A941%40gwocher.com.
Re: Notifications
Hello, There is a setting in voiceover that says always speak notifications. See if turning that to off will help. Greg Wocher > On Jan 9, 2020, at 3:14 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > Sorry for the cross post. Hoping that someone can be insightful. > > Has anyone figured out a way of silencing message notifications while you're > on a phone call? I was able to mostly silence other notifications so that > there is just a vibration or minor attention grabber in order that I know > something came in, but it's not distracting. Whereas, iMessages are another > story. VO likes to read them out as they come in, which can make it > extremely hard to hear whoever is calling me as well as being very > distracting. > > I have suggested to Apple of implementing something like "do Not Disturb > While on Call", but I'm not quite important enough for them to jump at my > requests. I have played with a number of notification settings with no joy > yet. I even checked in Activities to see if I could do something from in > there, but no obvious fix reached out to me. > > Any ideas would be appreciated. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F77D46EF-33DD-4E66-B8F1-B2668DCA0BAA%40me.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F77D46EF-33DD-4E66-B8F1-B2668DCA0BAA%40me.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/85376121-ED3A-44A3-AB71-65F05D816988%40gwocher.com.
Re: Some strange issues after clean install
Hello, I installed using a bootable USB drive. I think I may know what is going on. When I did the erase part there were two options. One was erase volume and the second was erase volume groups. I think when I did the erase, I just erased my files and apps and not any of the user data. I did need to put the finder windows in list view to get them back to working as they were before. Greg Wocher > On Jan 8, 2020, at 9:21 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Greg, > Did you use the Migration Assistant? > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > On 1/8/2020 6:19 PM, Greg Wocher wrote: >> Hello, >> I am seeing apps I did have installed before the I erased the drive and did >> the clean install. Just to see what would happen, I went to the open with >> menu on a file and opened it with an app that is not on my computer. Even >> though the app is not listed in my applications it opened up. The app is >> called code runner. I am also seeing bear in the menu and I don't have it >> installed either. This is strange. >> Greg Wocher >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:45 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Greg, >>> Is column view your usual preference? The command down does work in list >>> view. >>> >>> What apps are you seeing? >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> Many believe that we have been visited >>> in the past. What if it were true? >>> >>>> On 1/8/2020 2:20 PM, Greg Wocher wrote: >>>> Hello all, >>>> I did a clean install of macOS Catalina 10.15.3 on my macbook air and I am >>>> running into some strange problems. First when I look at the open with >>>> menu after doing a VO shift M on a file, there are programs in there I do >>>> not have installed. They were installed before but not now. I actually >>>> tried one and it opened as if it was installed. However I cannot find the >>>> app in question in my applications folder. How do I fix this? Finder is >>>> also behaving oddly. When I open up my home folder with command plus shift >>>> plus H it says column view browser. When I do command plus down arrow to >>>> move into a folder it just says open selection but does not actually move >>>> into the folder. Always before when I hit command plus down arrow it took >>>> me into the folder. Is there a setting I need to change to get this >>>> behavior back? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Greg Wocher >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/7F690E05-3029-429D-843E-0767E377FCCA%40gwocher.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/7F690E05-3029-429D-843E-0767E377FCCA%40gwocher.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Tayl
Re: Some strange issues after clean install
Hello, I am seeing apps I did have installed before the I erased the drive and did the clean install. Just to see what would happen, I went to the open with menu on a file and opened it with an app that is not on my computer. Even though the app is not listed in my applications it opened up. The app is called code runner. I am also seeing bear in the menu and I don't have it installed either. This is strange. Greg Wocher Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:45 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Greg, > Is column view your usual preference? The command down does work in list > view. > > What apps are you seeing? > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > >> On 1/8/2020 2:20 PM, Greg Wocher wrote: >> Hello all, >> I did a clean install of macOS Catalina 10.15.3 on my macbook air and I am >> running into some strange problems. First when I look at the open with menu >> after doing a VO shift M on a file, there are programs in there I do not >> have installed. They were installed before but not now. I actually tried one >> and it opened as if it was installed. However I cannot find the app in >> question in my applications folder. How do I fix this? Finder is also >> behaving oddly. When I open up my home folder with command plus shift plus H >> it says column view browser. When I do command plus down arrow to move into >> a folder it just says open selection but does not actually move into the >> folder. Always before when I hit command plus down arrow it took me into the >> folder. Is there a setting I need to change to get this behavior back? >> Thanks, >> Greg Wocher >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/7F690E05-3029-429D-843E-0767E377FCCA%40gwocher.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/7F690E05-3029-429D-843E-0767E377FCCA%40gwocher.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/0ddd0107-f4c8-4c2e-4ddf-2573def3b74d%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/053D3EB1-A1A4-4C24-9FB0-F5D1A4E32858%40gwocher.com.
Some strange issues after clean install
Hello all, I did a clean install of macOS Catalina 10.15.3 on my macbook air and I am running into some strange problems. First when I look at the open with menu after doing a VO shift M on a file, there are programs in there I do not have installed. They were installed before but not now. I actually tried one and it opened as if it was installed. However I cannot find the app in question in my applications folder. How do I fix this? Finder is also behaving oddly. When I open up my home folder with command plus shift plus H it says column view browser. When I do command plus down arrow to move into a folder it just says open selection but does not actually move into the folder. Always before when I hit command plus down arrow it took me into the folder. Is there a setting I need to change to get this behavior back? Thanks, Greg Wocher -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/7F690E05-3029-429D-843E-0767E377FCCA%40gwocher.com.
Another clean install question
Hello all, When I went to erase my drive during the clean install it asked me if I wanted to erase the volume or erase the volume group. What is the difference between erasing the volume or the volume group? Thanks, Greg Wocher -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F33D6D90-9473-4119-9078-BA06D54BE97B%40gwocher.com.
Re: How to set an account as imap rather than pop
Hello, The problem I am running into is that it never gives me the option to choose. It automatically chooses pop without asking. For some reason when the account is configured as pop its not downloading any new messages just old ones. I guess I will log into the account on the web and see if theres something wrong on that side. Greg Wocher Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 22, 2019, at 4:20 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > You need to configure this during the account setup process. You cannot > simply change the account from POP3 to iMap as far as I know. So, normally, > you make sure first that your eMail provider supports iMap for your account. > It would be very unlikely that they don't, but it's worth a check. If they > do support iMap and it is enabled for your account, then just go through the > Add eMail account process on your Mac making sure to select iMap during the > process. You can have both an iMap and a POP3 account going at the same time > if you wish. I would only do that temporarily though while you verify that > everything is working properly and if you wish to create mail folders and > such for the iMap version of the account. You can move messages from one > account to the other as well if you need to populate the iMap account with > saved messages stored locally on your Mac. > > HTH. > > Later... > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Dec 22, 2019, at 11:24, Greg Wocher wrote: > > Hello all, > I am having an issue setting one of my mail accounts as imap rather than pop. > I create the account but no where does it let me select whether it is imap or > pop. It just automatically sets it as pop. Does anyone know how I might > change this? > > Greg Wocher > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/7FE1E7B0-9D17-4BEF-A344-1A22D489EF5E%40gwocher.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E16D8F20-D69E-4A9D-AE54-96E2E303E6E2%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/803385A7-5485-49BD-8396-28834C838245%40gwocher.com.
How to set an account as imap rather than pop
Hello all, I am having an issue setting one of my mail accounts as imap rather than pop. I create the account but no where does it let me select whether it is imap or pop. It just automatically sets it as pop. Does anyone know how I might change this? Greg Wocher -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/7FE1E7B0-9D17-4BEF-A344-1A22D489EF5E%40gwocher.com.
Mail app question
Hello all, I did finally get the clean install on my mac done. Now I am trying to get apps to function like they use to. The one I am having an issue with is the mail app. I have message rules and folders created in my account on the server side. I have my main inbox and then I have folders under that where messages from different lists go to. I am having issues getting the mail app to group my main inbox and the folders under it so that I can right arrow on my main account and then have the folders shown. Right now they are there but they are at the bottom of the mailbox list in the mail app. How do I get it so that the mailbox list shows me my main account and then lets me expand it to see all the sub folders under it? Thanks, Greg Wocher -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/9539B8DA-D134-4DCD-98AC-93E414DB5FB2%40gwocher.com.
Re: Problems trying to create bootable USB Drive
Hello, Here is something odd. The install media I created does not show up in system preferences as a startup disk. However I just did a restart and held down the options key while it was rebooting. I had my sighted son look at the screen and low and behold the USB Drive showed up there. This is really odd. Greg Wocher > On Dec 20, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Greg Wocher wrote: > > Hello, > I just did the get info command on the volume. Yes it is bootable and the > others that were mentioned are set the way they should be. I have tried it in > both of the USB ports with the same results. It will not show up in the > startup disk section of system preferences. Hopefully my new flash drive will > be here soon to try. > > Greg Wocher > > >> On Dec 20, 2019, at 11:24 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> It sounds like the USB media that you're using does not support the install >> media. Verify the state of the USB media by going into Disk Utility, then >> selecting the "Install MacOS Catalina" item from the selection table. Make >> sure to select the "Install MacOS Catalina" volume, not the parent disk. >> Once selected, press cmd-i to Get Info on the volume. Read through the >> various information items and make sure that it says that the device is >> bootable. Some specific items that are also important are if ownership is >> set to "No", File System is "MacOS Extended (Journaled", "Yes" to writeable >> and "Yes" it can be verified. If all that is good, but it is still not >> bootable, have you tried putting the stick into a different USB port on your >> Mac? Beyond these suggestions, I'd wait until your new USB comes from >> Amazon and see how things proceed with that media. >> >> I just tested the process using Terminal and it worked properly. That is, >> the disk creation worked through it various copying, installing, making >> bootable processes and completed. I then checked in the Startup Disk pane >> and it was visible as a startup item. Basically, if you don't see it as a >> bootable item from within the Startup Disk pane, then using the option key >> method will not work either. FYI, my media was a 16 GB stick with a 2017 >> MacBook Pro with a brand new installer of 10.15.2 from Apple. >> >> HTH. >> >> Later... >> >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Jamf Certified Tech >> Apple Teacher >> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Dec 20, 2019, at 08:21, Greg Wocher > <mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com>> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> I am using a 2015 MacBook air. The security utility is only used on Macs >> with the T2 chips in them. I am trying to create a bootable USB drive so I >> can preform a clean install of Catalina on my mac. I am wanting to start >> fresh with it. >> >> Greg Wocher >> >> >>> On Dec 20, 2019, at 9:59 AM, John Panarese >> <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> What are you attempting to create. In Mojave and Catalina, you have to >>> boot from the Recovery HD and use Security utility to make it so you can >>> boot from external drives. >>> >>> Take Care >>> >>> John D. Panarese >>> Director >>> Mac for the Blind >>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> >>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/> >>> >>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer >>> >>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>> >>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 20, 2019, at 6:43 AM, Greg Wocher >>> <mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> I did try using the terminal last night and still no go. The process seems >>>> to finish okay but the USB drive still does not show up in the startup >>>> disk section of system preferences. Even when I unlock it so I can make >>>> changes there is only one option and that is the hard disk. I am using the >>>> full Mac OS catalina installer. Its an 8GB file in my applications folder. >>>> I did go into recovery mode but I did not see anything that would enable >>>> me to boot
Clean install question
Hello, I have a quick question about doing a clean install. Is it better to erase the hard drive first and then install or just do the reinstall without erasing first? Thanks, Greg Wocher -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C717D571-DEAF-4CF4-B95C-2CAB6D7C06F8%40gwocher.com.
Re: Question about Chrome
Hello, How does one install Chrome Vox? I tried to install it once but I could not figure out how to do it. Greg Wocher > On Dec 20, 2019, at 11:39 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > I wouldn't necessarily say that Chrome is better or worse than Safari. Some > sites and navigation work better in Chrome, some work better in Safari. I > use both. If you use Google Docs/Sheets and such, then chrome works better > in their own environment. VO works well in Chrome, and you can add the > ChromeVox extension that is also useful in some G Suite app situations. > ChromeVox is Google's screen reader, so the commands are a little different > than VO, but not extremely difficult to use. Importing Bookmarks from Safari > is supposedly easy. Just press cmd-comma to open Chrome Preferences, use > VO-i to bring up the Item Chooser, type Import and you'll see the Import > Bookmarks button. Follow the prompts and you're done. As in most importing > processes, just because it looks easy and is supposed to work, does not mean > that it always will. Give it a try and see how it goes. > > HTH. > > Later... > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Dec 20, 2019, at 07:16, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries > mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > Do people prefer it over Safari? If people are using it, how do you import > your bookmarks and settings from Safari? > > Thanks for any info. > > Kristeen > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can > reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/35A0D269-6206-4904-87BC-655399FFAB20%40icloud.com. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/1BC7ABC9-3233-4ACA-9BCE-F01340C00661%40me.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/1BC7ABC9-3233-4ACA-9BCE-F01340C00661%40me.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/454188BB-B180-4B28-AEBF-2AE6189447ED%40gwocher.com.
Re: Problems trying to create bootable USB Drive
Hello, I just did the get info command on the volume. Yes it is bootable and the others that were mentioned are set the way they should be. I have tried it in both of the USB ports with the same results. It will not show up in the startup disk section of system preferences. Hopefully my new flash drive will be here soon to try. Greg Wocher > On Dec 20, 2019, at 11:24 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > It sounds like the USB media that you're using does not support the install > media. Verify the state of the USB media by going into Disk Utility, then > selecting the "Install MacOS Catalina" item from the selection table. Make > sure to select the "Install MacOS Catalina" volume, not the parent disk. > Once selected, press cmd-i to Get Info on the volume. Read through the > various information items and make sure that it says that the device is > bootable. Some specific items that are also important are if ownership is > set to "No", File System is "MacOS Extended (Journaled", "Yes" to writeable > and "Yes" it can be verified. If all that is good, but it is still not > bootable, have you tried putting the stick into a different USB port on your > Mac? Beyond these suggestions, I'd wait until your new USB comes from Amazon > and see how things proceed with that media. > > I just tested the process using Terminal and it worked properly. That is, > the disk creation worked through it various copying, installing, making > bootable processes and completed. I then checked in the Startup Disk pane > and it was visible as a startup item. Basically, if you don't see it as a > bootable item from within the Startup Disk pane, then using the option key > method will not work either. FYI, my media was a 16 GB stick with a 2017 > MacBook Pro with a brand new installer of 10.15.2 from Apple. > > HTH. > > Later... > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Dec 20, 2019, at 08:21, Greg Wocher <mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com>> wrote: > > Hello, > I am using a 2015 MacBook air. The security utility is only used on Macs with > the T2 chips in them. I am trying to create a bootable USB drive so I can > preform a clean install of Catalina on my mac. I am wanting to start fresh > with it. > > Greg Wocher > > >> On Dec 20, 2019, at 9:59 AM, John Panarese > <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> What are you attempting to create. In Mojave and Catalina, you have to boot >> from the Recovery HD and use Security utility to make it so you can boot >> from external drives. >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/> >> >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> >> >> >>> On Dec 20, 2019, at 6:43 AM, Greg Wocher >> <mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> I did try using the terminal last night and still no go. The process seems >>> to finish okay but the USB drive still does not show up in the startup disk >>> section of system preferences. Even when I unlock it so I can make changes >>> there is only one option and that is the hard disk. I am using the full Mac >>> OS catalina installer. Its an 8GB file in my applications folder. I did go >>> into recovery mode but I did not see anything that would enable me to boot >>> from a USB drive. I think that might be a thing you can do with Macs that >>> have the T2 chips only. >>> >>> Greg Wocher >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 19, 2019, at 7:33 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Easier? Maybe? I have used the app many times and it has never failed. >>>> Matter of fact I retrieved the latest package from the app store when >>>> 10.15.2 was released and I just created a new USB installer with it using >>>> the app. And it shows up in startup. So I do not think the terminal would >>>> fare any better. >>>> >>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Re: Problems trying to create bootable USB Drive
Hello, I am using a 2015 MacBook air. The security utility is only used on Macs with the T2 chips in them. I am trying to create a bootable USB drive so I can preform a clean install of Catalina on my mac. I am wanting to start fresh with it. Greg Wocher > On Dec 20, 2019, at 9:59 AM, John Panarese wrote: > > What are you attempting to create. In Mojave and Catalina, you have to boot > from the Recovery HD and use Security utility to make it so you can boot from > external drives. > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, j...@macfortheblind.com > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > >> On Dec 20, 2019, at 6:43 AM, Greg Wocher wrote: >> >> Hello, >> I did try using the terminal last night and still no go. The process seems >> to finish okay but the USB drive still does not show up in the startup disk >> section of system preferences. Even when I unlock it so I can make changes >> there is only one option and that is the hard disk. I am using the full Mac >> OS catalina installer. Its an 8GB file in my applications folder. I did go >> into recovery mode but I did not see anything that would enable me to boot >> from a USB drive. I think that might be a thing you can do with Macs that >> have the T2 chips only. >> >> Greg Wocher >> >> >>> On Dec 19, 2019, at 7:33 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Easier? Maybe? I have used the app many times and it has never failed. >>> Matter of fact I retrieved the latest package from the app store when >>> 10.15.2 was released and I just created a new USB installer with it using >>> the app. And it shows up in startup. So I do not think the terminal would >>> fare any better. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> Many believe that we have been visited >>> in the past. What if it were true? >>> >>> On 12/19/2019 3:32 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: >>>> Hi greg, >>>> If the USb flash drive doesn't have a bootable package on it >>>> Then no you wont see it in start up disks as there is nothing on the USB >>>> device to start up from. >>>> If you have the bootable Catalina installer the full package then it would >>>> be easier by far to create the installation media from the terminal >>>> command line. >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On >>>> Behalf Of Greg Wocher >>>> Sent: Friday, 20 December 2019 8:01 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Problems trying to create bootable USB Drive >>>> Hello, >>>> Well I downloaded install disk creator and it does have a much better >>>> interface than disk maker X. When I used it, it appeared to have worked. >>>> However when I go into system preferences/startup disk the flash drive is >>>> not listed. No matter what I do I cannot get this to work. I have a new >>>> flash drive on order from amazon that comes tomorrow. Both of the ones I >>>> have are older ones. They are USB 2.0 and 16GB. The new one is USB 3.1 and >>>> is 32GB. Anything else I can try while waiting on the new flash drive? >>>> Also if I do a restart and hold option down is there a way for me to tell >>>> if it did use the USB drive to boot? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Greg Wocher >>>>> On Dec 19, 2019, at 11:05 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I would suggest this app, Install Disk Creator insteaa of DiskMaker X. I >>>>> had trouble with that one so threw it out. Also, you need at least a >>>>> 16gig stick. >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were >>>>> true? >>>>> >>>>> On 12/19/2019 7:16 AM, Greg Wocher wrote: >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> I have been trying for the last several days to create a bootable USB >>>>>> drive so I can do a clean install on my mac. I am using a 2015 MacBook >>>>>> air that
Re: Problems trying to create bootable USB Drive
Hello, I did try using the terminal last night and still no go. The process seems to finish okay but the USB drive still does not show up in the startup disk section of system preferences. Even when I unlock it so I can make changes there is only one option and that is the hard disk. I am using the full Mac OS catalina installer. Its an 8GB file in my applications folder. I did go into recovery mode but I did not see anything that would enable me to boot from a USB drive. I think that might be a thing you can do with Macs that have the T2 chips only. Greg Wocher > On Dec 19, 2019, at 7:33 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Easier? Maybe? I have used the app many times and it has never failed. > Matter of fact I retrieved the latest package from the app store when 10.15.2 > was released and I just created a new USB installer with it using the app. > And it shows up in startup. So I do not think the terminal would fare any > better. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > On 12/19/2019 3:32 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: >> Hi greg, >> If the USb flash drive doesn't have a bootable package on it >> Then no you wont see it in start up disks as there is nothing on the USB >> device to start up from. >> If you have the bootable Catalina installer the full package then it would >> be easier by far to create the installation media from the terminal command >> line. >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On >> Behalf Of Greg Wocher >> Sent: Friday, 20 December 2019 8:01 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Problems trying to create bootable USB Drive >> Hello, >> Well I downloaded install disk creator and it does have a much better >> interface than disk maker X. When I used it, it appeared to have worked. >> However when I go into system preferences/startup disk the flash drive is >> not listed. No matter what I do I cannot get this to work. I have a new >> flash drive on order from amazon that comes tomorrow. Both of the ones I >> have are older ones. They are USB 2.0 and 16GB. The new one is USB 3.1 and >> is 32GB. Anything else I can try while waiting on the new flash drive? Also >> if I do a restart and hold option down is there a way for me to tell if it >> did use the USB drive to boot? >> Thanks, >> Greg Wocher >>> On Dec 19, 2019, at 11:05 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> I would suggest this app, Install Disk Creator insteaa of DiskMaker X. I >>> had trouble with that one so threw it out. Also, you need at least a 16gig >>> stick. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were >>> true? >>> >>> On 12/19/2019 7:16 AM, Greg Wocher wrote: >>>> Hello all, >>>> I have been trying for the last several days to create a bootable USB >>>> drive so I can do a clean install on my mac. I am using a 2015 MacBook air >>>> that I bought in 2016. It is running the latest version of Catalina. I am >>>> using a program called Disk Maker X to create the USB drive. I have used >>>> two different flash drives I own. After completing the process, neither >>>> flash drives are recognized as start up disks. I am not sure what I am >>>> doing wrong. Anyone have any advice on what I can try so I can get a >>>> bootable USB drive? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Greg Wocher >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach >>> mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach >>> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
Re: Problems trying to create bootable USB Drive
Hello, Well I downloaded install disk creator and it does have a much better interface than disk maker X. When I used it, it appeared to have worked. However when I go into system preferences/startup disk the flash drive is not listed. No matter what I do I cannot get this to work. I have a new flash drive on order from amazon that comes tomorrow. Both of the ones I have are older ones. They are USB 2.0 and 16GB. The new one is USB 3.1 and is 32GB. Anything else I can try while waiting on the new flash drive? Also if I do a restart and hold option down is there a way for me to tell if it did use the USB drive to boot? Thanks, Greg Wocher > On Dec 19, 2019, at 11:05 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I would suggest this app, Install Disk Creator insteaa of DiskMaker X. I > had trouble with that one so threw it out. Also, you need at least a 16gig > stick. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > On 12/19/2019 7:16 AM, Greg Wocher wrote: >> Hello all, >> I have been trying for the last several days to create a bootable USB drive >> so I can do a clean install on my mac. I am using a 2015 MacBook air that I >> bought in 2016. It is running the latest version of Catalina. I am using a >> program called Disk Maker X to create the USB drive. I have used two >> different flash drives I own. After completing the process, neither flash >> drives are recognized as start up disks. I am not sure what I am doing >> wrong. Anyone have any advice on what I can try so I can get a bootable USB >> drive? >> Thanks, >> Greg Wocher > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/b951278a-6294-4e2b-0908-6ae85e47eb4f%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/75A7A22C-97E9-4521-BD33-F78A857CB94C%40gwocher.com.
Problems trying to create bootable USB Drive
Hello all, I have been trying for the last several days to create a bootable USB drive so I can do a clean install on my mac. I am using a 2015 MacBook air that I bought in 2016. It is running the latest version of Catalina. I am using a program called Disk Maker X to create the USB drive. I have used two different flash drives I own. After completing the process, neither flash drives are recognized as start up disks. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Anyone have any advice on what I can try so I can get a bootable USB drive? Thanks, Greg Wocher -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/231E627C-9747-491B-9948-D1DADAE0FCEB%40gwocher.com.
Where to download a copy of MacOS Catalina
Hello all, I am trying to find out where I can download a copy of MacOS Catalina. I need it so I can create a bootable USB drive to make it easier to do a clean install on my Mac. I tried getting it from the app store but when I try and get it, it just takes me to the software update section in system preferences. Thanks, Greg Wocher -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4A142700-4306-44AF-AF30-ADC95816C9C2%40gwocher.com.
Re: Getting Stuck in Customer Reviews: Amazon.com
Hello, To enable the developer menu you need to open up safari preferences. Once here go to the advanced settings then you should find a checkbox to enable the developer menu. Greg Wocher > On Dec 13, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: > > how do you enable the developer menu in Safari? > > lately I haven't even been able to use the moving by headings to get around > those annoying popups. > > Lorie > >> On Dec 13, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Greg Wocher wrote: >> >> Hello, >> One work around is to enable the developer menu in Safari. Once this is done >> you can disable javascript from within the developer menu. However once this >> is done you will not be able to select things like color or other options >> for items that include these. To do that you will have to turn javascript >> back on. Another way around this is to move by headings and move to the one >> right past the items name. You can then move up to get some of the item >> details. >> >> Greg Wocher >> >> >>> On Dec 13, 2019, at 1:16 PM, CHUCK REICHEL >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Dave, >>> Same thing here! >>> Even with what I think is the special Amazon accessibility link! >>> Need a work around! >>> Chuck >>> "God does not play dice with the universe" >>> "Albert Einstein’ >>> >>> On Dec 13, 2019, at 12:52 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: >>> >>>> Okay, frustrated enough to ask for help. >>>> >>>> I use amazon.com (and this happens with m.amazon.com, also) to shop for >>>> stuff. I do a search for an item, find a list of suggestions. >>>> I click on a suggestion. >>>> I tab or use single-letter nav to jump to headings to try and find a >>>> description of the item. >>>> Invariably I get sucked into a page or sub-page or window where all I can >>>> get are the rating percentages and a close button. >>>> I click on the close button and the same darn stuff pops up again. >>>> >>>> I get dragged into this swamp even if I try to navigate with VO+right/left >>>> arrows. Once I get stuck, I can’t get out. I feel like Brer Rabbit and the >>>> tar-baby in the Uncle Remus story. >>>> >>>> Help, I’m stuck and can’t get out. >>>> >>>> >>>> Dave Carlson >>>> Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/512E777F-A470-41FA-B525-3A66E7D932FF%40sbcglobal.net. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are
Re: Getting Stuck in Customer Reviews: Amazon.com
Hello, I set up an activity to do this. However it really slows down safari when I go to the Amazon site. It also keeps saying loading over and over again for 30 seconds or more. Greg Wocher > On Dec 13, 2019, at 4:55 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > As Johnathan suggested. You can set up an Activity to have Amazon's web > address behave in a specific manner with VO. Using the suggestion I gave of > having the Mouse Pointer ignore the VO Cursor instead of attempting to work > with Java. Amazon also has a link on their front page that reads something > to the effect of "Amazon has updated its screen reader friendly version of > our site. Click on this link to access it." > > Although, if you'd like to create the activity to do what I've suggested, do > the following: > > • open the VO Utility > • cmd-0, or select Activities from the categories table. > • press the Add an Activity button. > • give it a name > • stop interacting with the table and expand the "Additional Setting to > Include" item. > • check the Navigation checkbox. > • press the "Set Navigation" button. > • make sure that the Mouse Pointer ignores the VO Cursor and close this > dialog. > • navigate to the Apps & Web-sites menu item and add www.amazon.com > <http://www.amazon.com/>. > • close everything and you should be good. > > HTH. > > Later... > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Dec 13, 2019, at 14:39, Lorie McCloud <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > this happens to me all the time and it's really frustrating. "close" doesn't > seem to do anything. sometimes I can go down past that stuff and slowly move > up to read about it. I'd like to disable java script for Amazon. can somebody > please coach me on this? > > thanks. > Lorie > >> On Dec 13, 2019, at 11:52 AM, Dave Carlson > <mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote: >> >> Okay, frustrated enough to ask for help. >> >> I use amazon.com <http://amazon.com/> (and this happens with m.amazon.com >> <http://m.amazon.com/>, also) to shop for stuff. I do a search for an item, >> find a list of suggestions. >> I click on a suggestion. >> I tab or use single-letter nav to jump to headings to try and find a >> description of the item. >> Invariably I get sucked into a page or sub-page or window where all I can >> get are the rating percentages and a close button. >> I click on the close button and the same darn stuff pops up again. >> >> I get dragged into this swamp even if I try to navigate with VO+right/left >> arrows. Once I get stuck, I can’t get out. I feel like Brer Rabbit and the >> tar-baby in the Uncle Remus story. >> >> Help, I’m stuck and can’t get out. >> >> >> Dave Carlson >> Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician >> >> >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/512E777F-A470-41FA-B525-3A66E7D932FF%40sbcglobal.net. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the
Re: Getting Stuck in Customer Reviews: Amazon.com
Hello, One work around is to enable the developer menu in Safari. Once this is done you can disable javascript from within the developer menu. However once this is done you will not be able to select things like color or other options for items that include these. To do that you will have to turn javascript back on. Another way around this is to move by headings and move to the one right past the items name. You can then move up to get some of the item details. Greg Wocher > On Dec 13, 2019, at 1:16 PM, CHUCK REICHEL > wrote: > > Hi Dave, > Same thing here! > Even with what I think is the special Amazon accessibility link! > Need a work around! > Chuck > "God does not play dice with the universe" > "Albert Einstein’ > > On Dec 13, 2019, at 12:52 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: > >> Okay, frustrated enough to ask for help. >> >> I use amazon.com (and this happens with m.amazon.com, also) to shop for >> stuff. I do a search for an item, find a list of suggestions. >> I click on a suggestion. >> I tab or use single-letter nav to jump to headings to try and find a >> description of the item. >> Invariably I get sucked into a page or sub-page or window where all I can >> get are the rating percentages and a close button. >> I click on the close button and the same darn stuff pops up again. >> >> I get dragged into this swamp even if I try to navigate with VO+right/left >> arrows. Once I get stuck, I can’t get out. I feel like Brer Rabbit and the >> tar-baby in the Uncle Remus story. >> >> Help, I’m stuck and can’t get out. >> >> >> Dave Carlson >> Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician >> >> >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/512E777F-A470-41FA-B525-3A66E7D932FF%40sbcglobal.net. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/ADBC2AA0-A7CF-4E7A-AF32-B50643021D3B%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/92F8713D-415B-462D-A234-0C35BAAAF937%40gwocher.com.
Reinstalling Mac OS
Hello all, I have a quick question about reinstalling Mac OS on my 2015 MacBook air. Right now I do have a boot camp partition for Windows 10. If I do a reinstall of Mac OS will that clear out my boot camp partition? I am hoping it will because I want to start fresh on this machine. Thanks, Greg Wocher -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5D6FE178-AC00-444A-A09C-11768CAFFDD0%40gwocher.com.
Re: Orbit Reader feedback
Hello, Yes it will connect to both the Mac and iPhone. The only issue I have when using it with my iPhone is that when you are in an edit field the cursor blinks constantly. If I could get that to stop I would use it more. Other than that it works well with both. Greg Wocher > On Nov 30, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > > Hello, > Is the Orbit Braille Reader available and does it connect to the Mac / iPhone? > > Any feedback would be helpful: good or bad. > > Chris > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/7997F296-104C-4324-9108-6C1254184286%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/BE631280-4063-461F-9A00-0B5C55E6B22E%40gwocher.com.
Re: Lire rss Mac
Hello, I have heard bad things about the Mac version of this app. It is very inaccessible and not worth the price. Greg Wocher > On Nov 23, 2019, at 5:08 PM, joseph hodge wrote: > > Just wondering peoples thoughts on the app for the Mac? Wondering if it’s > worth the investment? If it’s still difficult to use voiceover with these new > apps does anyone have any suggestions for a nice news client app? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/dc3bce2e-0294-4267-90b9-5cfe0678c387%40googlegroups.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/D0ED2646-5241-4DF5-8433-FA5819664F6E%40gwocher.com.
Re: Viewing PDF files on Mac OS Catalina
Hello, I was wrong in the message. It says the OS cannot scan it for malicious software and the app needs to be updated. Greg Wocher > On Nov 6, 2019, at 1:30 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > That would be an issue with your virus scanner, not the MacOS. You'll need > to check in your settings for the virus scanner to remedy this. > > Later... > > > Tim Kilburn > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Jamf Certified Associate > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Nov 6, 2019, at 11:13, Greg Wocher <mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com>> wrote: > > Hello, > I tried installing Skim and I can’t get my mac to let me open it. My mac > keeps telling me it cannot scan it for viruses. > > Greg Wocher > >> On Nov 6, 2019, at 12:05 PM, dan d. > <mailto:dandun...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> This is an open source pdf viewer for os10. It is free, small and fast- >> skim. I have no experience using it for the original poster's purposes. >> >> https://skim-app.sourceforge.io/ <https://skim-app.sourceforge.io/> >> >> On Tue, 5 Nov 2019, Dave Carlson wrote: >> >>> For free, likely not. Prizmo, Fine Reader, and Docuscan in order of lower >>> to higher price. Might be some online versions you can use for free, but >>> have not investigated. >>> >>> Dave Carlson >>> Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/852CE5D4-6730-4903-B2CB-87757FB31F31%40sbcglobal.net. >>> >> >> -- >> XB >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/alpine.OSX.2.21.1911061202390.8914%40dans-mac-mini.home. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can > reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You receive
Re: Viewing PDF files on Mac OS Catalina
Hello, I tried installing Skim and I can’t get my mac to let me open it. My mac keeps telling me it cannot scan it for viruses. Greg Wocher > On Nov 6, 2019, at 12:05 PM, dan d. wrote: > > > This is an open source pdf viewer for os10. It is free, small and fast- > skim. I have no experience using it for the original poster's purposes. > > https://skim-app.sourceforge.io/ > > On Tue, 5 Nov 2019, Dave Carlson wrote: > >> For free, likely not. Prizmo, Fine Reader, and Docuscan in order of lower to >> higher price. Might be some online versions you can use for free, but have >> not investigated. >> >> Dave Carlson >> Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician >> >> >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/852CE5D4-6730-4903-B2CB-87757FB31F31%40sbcglobal.net. >> > > -- > XB > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/alpine.OSX.2.21.1911061202390.8914%40dans-mac-mini.home. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/064F08D4-580B-4927-B2E0-A224E46410F0%40gwocher.com.
Re: AirPods or not?
Hello, The powerbeats pro are $250. Greg Wocher > On Sep 20, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Robin wrote: > > the PowerBeats PRO Wireless EarBuds cots More Then Apple's AirPods ... > Approximately $50 More as I recall > At 10:28 AM 9/20/2019, you wrote: >> Hi! >> No I haven't thought of the power beats. >> Depends on the price. >> My economy is not good so I have to think twice before I decide. >> /A >> > 20 sep. 2019 kl. 19:05 skrev Robin : >> > >> > Have you Consider'd Apple's PowerBeats Pro as an Option for Wireless >> > BlueTooth, as I understand it, the BatteryLife is Far Better on Them >> > than Apple's AirPods, but Apple's AirPods have the Advantage in that >> > They can be Charged wirelessly, & as far as I know the PowerBeats Pro >> > don't have that Feature (at Least not in the Latest iteration) >> > At 09:56 AM 9/20/2019, you wrote: >> >> Hi friends on the list! >> >> Actually when the AirPods came out I didn’t thinkink of buying them as >> >> they seem to have not as good battery as other wireless headphones. >> >> Then came the second edition and I still didn’t wt want them as I was >> >> thinking that I didn’t need all kl kinds of gadgets that all other >> >> have. >> >> But now I sit here and thinking of buying them as I need something >> >> that’s really small when I go out taking the bus or goinoing by taxi. >> >> I have a lot of headphones here as I am an audio geek but they’re to >> >> bulky to put in a jacket. >> >> Even though my marshal Major III Bluetooth which are foldable but they >> >> take up a lot of space in a pocket on a jacket. >> >> Th AirPods really seems to fit my needs. So if I buy these later in the >> >> year for my birthday or Christmas I would like to know if there are >> >> things I should be aware of? >> >> Are there a lot of bugs that are really annoying for a VoiceOver user or >> >> other annoying bugs? >> >> Also I would like to have some tips on how to not drop one or the other? >> >> THey’re really small so it can actually happen. >> . >> >> They are a bit pricy though so I am not sure I can afford them. >> >> There are alternatives out there but I wonder if they are as good as the >> >> EarPods? >> >> Thanks in advance for all answers. >> >> /A >> >> >> >> -- >> >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> >> Visionaries list. >> >> >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >> >> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> >> --- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C6C498D2-248B-4001-BBCE-8ADABF85EDD0%40pipkrokodil.se. >> > >> > -- >> > The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> > Visionaries list. >> > >> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> > >> > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >> > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> > caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> > >> > The archives for this list can be searched at: >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups
Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?
Hello, You could try Lee the male Australian voice or one of the UK english male voices. Greg Wocher > On Sep 15, 2019, at 10:28 AM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Hello Ann, > Sad to report that Fred is also a non-negative speaker, along with Alex and > Alex Compact. Sarina works, along with Tom. My quest for a voice that I can > live with, and for now one that I don’t need to purchase, goes on... > > Dave Carlson > Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer > > > > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/6A023F11-C72C-48DD-9BBD-8EA841B9045B%40sbcglobal.net > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/6A023F11-C72C-48DD-9BBD-8EA841B9045B%40sbcglobal.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/500138A5-75B6-447A-830D-AEEA7C37A295%40gwocher.com.
Re: Copying text from a web site
Hello, When I do this I see no library folder at all. I see all kinds of other folders though. Greg Wocher > On Sep 1, 2019, at 3:35 PM, Leo wrote: > > press command plus shift plus H, this will open your user folder, then press > command plus shift plus . (period key) > > Since some folders such as this library folder are hidden, first you > must press this combination in order to make all this folders visible. > > Press the same combination to reverse this, and please, let us know if it > worked for you. > > > > Best, >Leo. > On 9/1/2019 1:27 PM, Greg Wocher wrote: >> Hello, >> How does one find the user library folder? I have been trying to find mine >> and I am having no luck. >> >> Greg Wocher >> >> >>> On Sep 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Leo >> <mailto:leobado1...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Anne, >>> >>> First of all, Thank you very much for your help, this seems to be a >>> wonderful solution; however, for some reason that I still cannot >>> understand, it didn't work for me. I followed your instructions and pasted >>> the resulting folder inside the library folder of my user, but still, the >>> keystrokes don't respond, and I have even tried this in combination with >>> the function key with no luck. Besides, I've been doing some research on >>> Google, but I can't find anything that could lead me to respond why the >>> keystrokes are not responding. >>> >>> I'm on Mojave latest update. Would anyone know why this happens? >>> >>> >>> >>> Best, >>>Leo. >>> On 9/1/2019 6:32 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>>> Hello Leo, >>>> >>>> You can select text between two markers in any text document on the Mac if >>>> you do the following: >>>> Click on this link to download Keybindings.zip >>>> <http://cecimac.net/KeyBindings.zip <http://cecimac.net/KeyBindings.zip>> >>>> >>>> In your Downloads folder, open the Keybindings.zip with Cmd-o. >>>> Paste the resulting folder into your user library folder. >>>> You should now be able to mark the start of your selection with >>>> Ctrl-Space, navigate to the place you wish to end your selection and press >>>> Ctrl-x-x. The text in between wil be selected. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Anne >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 1 Sep 2019, at 12:03, Leo >>>> <mailto:leobado1...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> well if you red the question that started this thread, you'll notice that >>>>> basically your question and my question are the same. Though I wanted to >>>>> copy text from a web page, you want to copy from a text editor; in >>>>> addition, as far as we've been told, there is no way to place two marks >>>>> in a text and automatically select the text between them. Since this is >>>>> the basic concept behind the function that we are looking for, this >>>>> probably cannot be done on Mac, neither on a text editor nor on a web >>>>> page. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>>Leo. >>>>> On 8/31/2019 11:51 PM, Hemachandran Karaha wrote: >>>>>> Hi Leo, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the clarification. >>>>>> >>>>>> What should I do if I need to select long passages after placing a >>>>>> selection beginning mark. On the windows front, I tend to keep reading >>>>>> until a spot where I need to end selection. Is there a way to place >>>>>> sweet spots and make a text selection between them? I will be grateful >>>>>> for an answer. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care, >>>>>> Hem. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Leo >>>>>> Sent: 31 August 2019 16:06 >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>&
Re: Copying text from a web site
Hello, How does one find the user library folder? I have been trying to find mine and I am having no luck. Greg Wocher > On Sep 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Leo wrote: > > Hello Anne, > > First of all, Thank you very much for your help, this seems to be a wonderful > solution; however, for some reason that I still cannot understand, it didn't > work for me. I followed your instructions and pasted the resulting folder > inside the library folder of my user, but still, the keystrokes don't > respond, and I have even tried this in combination with the function key with > no luck. Besides, I've been doing some research on Google, but I can't find > anything that could lead me to respond why the keystrokes are not responding. > > I'm on Mojave latest update. Would anyone know why this happens? > > > > Best, >Leo. > On 9/1/2019 6:32 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> Hello Leo, >> >> You can select text between two markers in any text document on the Mac if >> you do the following: >> Click on this link to download Keybindings.zip >> <http://cecimac.net/KeyBindings.zip <http://cecimac.net/KeyBindings.zip>> >> >> In your Downloads folder, open the Keybindings.zip with Cmd-o. >> Paste the resulting folder into your user library folder. >> You should now be able to mark the start of your selection with Ctrl-Space, >> navigate to the place you wish to end your selection and press Ctrl-x-x. The >> text in between wil be selected. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >>> On 1 Sep 2019, at 12:03, Leo >> <mailto:leobado1...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> well if you red the question that started this thread, you'll notice that >>> basically your question and my question are the same. Though I wanted to >>> copy text from a web page, you want to copy from a text editor; in >>> addition, as far as we've been told, there is no way to place two marks in >>> a text and automatically select the text between them. Since this is the >>> basic concept behind the function that we are looking for, this probably >>> cannot be done on Mac, neither on a text editor nor on a web page. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best, >>>Leo. >>> On 8/31/2019 11:51 PM, Hemachandran Karaha wrote: >>>> Hi Leo, >>>> >>>> Thanks for the clarification. >>>> >>>> What should I do if I need to select long passages after placing a >>>> selection beginning mark. On the windows front, I tend to keep reading >>>> until a spot where I need to end selection. Is there a way to place sweet >>>> spots and make a text selection between them? I will >>>> be grateful for an answer. >>>> >>>> Take care, >>>> Hem. >>>> >>>> >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Leo >>>> Sent: 31 August 2019 16:06 >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Re: Copying text from a web site >>>> >>>> Hi, I'm not Jonathan, but the answer to your question is yes, it works. >>>> Just make sure after pressing vo-return, not to stop pressing vo, then you >>>> can errow to select as much as you want. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>>Leo. >>>> On 8/30/2019 10:55 PM, Hemachandran Karaha wrote: >>>> Dear Jonathan, >>>> >>>> Does this selection technique work in text environment such as Pages? >>>> Kindly let me know. >>>> >>>> Hem. >>>> >>>> >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn >>>> Sent: 31 August 2019 06:46 >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Re: Copying text from a web site >>>> >>>> You can sorta do this if the text is in a block, but if there is graphics >>>> or tables or even perhaps font changes I find the below method does not >>>> wo
New subscriber with a question about voiceover and safari
Hello all, I am a new member on this group. I have been using a mac for a few years now. I have a MacBook air. One area where I really struggle with the mac is with voiceover and safari. General browsing is okay but when I try to do things like copy text, I have an extremely hard time. It seems as if focus is all over the place. I will find what I want to copy and when I go to start selecting I find myself in a completely different part of the browser. Does anyone have some tips on how to do this with the mac? Thanks, Greg Wocher -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/BA21CB7B-9877-4AD9-AE75-3E47A2869A16%40gwocher.com.
