Re: Muting startup sound
Hello Antonio, The start up sound is the result of tests run at start up to indicate that your Mac is running okay and the OS is functioning properly. I just read on an Apple Support Communities forum post, also, that there is a different sound to indicate problems with RAM, as well, so that start up sound is apparently pretty important. I believe it was originally designed as a joke but must have since evolved. Harry On 7/16/13, Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr. wrote: > I'd like to buddha the Mac without playing the startup sound. > Is there anyway to avoid it. It tends to play even if headphones are plugged > in. > > I don't get it. Why does the entire neighborhood need to know I'm putting up > my computer? > > Antonio > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: MacBook Air upgrade options
Hi Phil, I have only ever worked with a MacBook Pro running 4gb of ram and with a 320 hard drive (not an SSD). From my experience, the virtual machine setup with usable for tiems when you only want to run Windows for a few minutes, in somewhat limited situations. What I have found, however, is that after setting up Boot Camp on my computer, I see no difference in performance whatsoever. I have been running my system under Windows exclusively over the past week or so for school-related things that I need Microsoft Word for, and it is though I were running on a PC. I always found Fusion with Windows and JAWS, or any other screen-reader, to be very sluggish, especially if I had other programs running in the background, no matter how much I increased available memory to the VM through Fusion settings. Now, this is only my opinion and thoughts, of course. It very well may be that for most people this set up works perfectly fine. Indeed, I made it work for me for around a year or so. However, for day-to-day reliable performance, I found I needed Windows under Boot Camp, and again, thank you to all on this list who helped me to achieve that. Your patience was and is very kind and appreciated. I considered upgrading my RAM, etc. and certainly increased RAM may help, but I'm not certain how much. I know that VoiceOver likes to say "Busy, busy, busy" in programs sometimes, and I remember that I have had the same issues with that as someone who had 2 gb of ram. But ram is always supposed to be the biggest factor in immediate increased performance. Thanks, Harry On 7/14/13, Phil Halton wrote: > I want to be able to run fusion/win7 on a macbook air with as little > degradation of performance as possible. What would you think would be the > minimum upgrades necessary to a Macbook Air 13 inch? I assume 8GB memory, > 256 SSD, and a processor upgrade of some kind - what would the list > recommend for processor? > > Also, what advantages do the Macbook Pro have over the Air? is it worth > considering a Pro over an Air model? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
We starting into windows
Hello, I'm wondering is there a way to restart the windows from OS X when I have windows running camp. Thanks, Harry. Yes, I'm able to restart into OS X under windows with no problem. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: gMail site (was Fusion boot camp or parallel)
On 6/20/13, Alex Hall wrote: > Open gmail.com, then do a find command and search for "basic ". That should > give you the "basic html" link - hit enter on that and things will be much > easier. Once the page loads, see if the word "default" appears anywhere and, > if it does, hit that link as well so the basic interface is your default. > On Jun 20, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Harry Hogue wrote: > >> Phil, Chris, and Others, >> >> Thank you so much for your detailed instructions and tips for getting up >> and running using Bootcamp. I am good to go, and I can't say how much I >> appreciate the help. Now I just have to get used to using JAWS again. >> >> As a complete side note, does VoiceOver or JAWS either one work well with >> the Gmail web interfase? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Harry >> >> On Jun 19, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >> >>> As others have mentioned, for bootcamp you have to partition your drive >>> into two pieces, a Mac chunk and a Windows chunk, which means both sides >>> will have less space and you have to plan ahead since you can't easily >>> change this down the road. That means you might have to allocate a bunch >>> of space to Windows 'just in case' which gets taken away from the mac >>> side. Fusion is just an app except the documents it creates are virtual >>> machines. You can give a Fusion virtual machine a large partition but the >>> 'document' will only use as much as needed. Just like you can make a >>> Pages doc that is 100 blank pages and it will be pretty tiny because >>> there is nothing in it. So this is a big advantage. You don't have to >>> know ahead of time how much space to give to Fusion. Just give it 40GB or >>> so and then it will only use the 9-10GB it actually needs and will grow >>> that space as needed. You launch Fusion when you need to do some Windows >>> stuff and quit it when you're done. Other than the disk space it uses up >>> for the virtual machine document it has no impact on the performance of >>> your Mac once you quit it. While it's running it will suck up whatever >>> CPU and memory you've allocated to the virtual windows machine but then >>> you quit and that all comes back to the Mac side. >>> >>> I haven't used boot camp but disk utility is fully accessible so you >>> should be able to do the disk partitioning yourself if you want to go >>> that way. I'm sure others here can give the blow by blow instructions. >>> >>> CB >>> >>> On 6/16/13 6:21 PM, zoe wrote: >>>> Oh ok got it now. One more question that I thought of and please accept >>>> my >>>> appologies for asking what may seem stupid questions and for asking >>>> them >>>> scattered, my mind is all over the place and I seem to be asking >>>> questions >>>> as they come. Am I to understand that with bootcamp the drive would be >>>> partitioned but with fusion it would not? Apple said for the >>>> partitioning >>>> of the drive they would charge me two hundred and fifty dollars, if I >>>> half >>>> to pay it oh well, then I will, but have I gotten confused somewhere >>>> down >>>> the line? I'm sure the drive is partitioned for bootcamp but fusion? >>>> Thanks again and again I'm so sorry for my confusion. >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Alex Hall" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:50 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel >>>> >>>> >>>> No, Refit is free and something you will add once you get your machine. >>>> Jaws >>>> can only read the Windows logon/lock screens, not the boot screen. When >>>> a >>>> computer first boots, no operating system has started yet, which is why >>>> no >>>> screen reader can possibly be loaded. >>>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 4:21 PM, zoe wrote: >>>> >>>>> h refit manager is that something extra I half to by or can apple >>>>> add >>>>> it >>>>> on for me? Also since I'm going to be installing windows with jaws, >>>>> and >>>>> jaws can be configured to the log screen would that do the trick? >>>>> >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>> From: "
Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
Phil, Chris, and Others, Thank you so much for your detailed instructions and tips for getting up and running using Bootcamp. I am good to go, and I can't say how much I appreciate the help. Now I just have to get used to using JAWS again. As a complete side note, does VoiceOver or JAWS either one work well with the Gmail web interfase? Thanks, Harry On Jun 19, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > As others have mentioned, for bootcamp you have to partition your drive into > two pieces, a Mac chunk and a Windows chunk, which means both sides will have > less space and you have to plan ahead since you can't easily change this down > the road. That means you might have to allocate a bunch of space to Windows > 'just in case' which gets taken away from the mac side. Fusion is just an app > except the documents it creates are virtual machines. You can give a Fusion > virtual machine a large partition but the 'document' will only use as much as > needed. Just like you can make a Pages doc that is 100 blank pages and it > will be pretty tiny because there is nothing in it. So this is a big > advantage. You don't have to know ahead of time how much space to give to > Fusion. Just give it 40GB or so and then it will only use the 9-10GB it > actually needs and will grow that space as needed. You launch Fusion when you > need to do some Windows stuff and quit it when you're done. Other than the > disk space it uses up for the virtual machine document it has no impact on > the performance of your Mac once you quit it. While it's running it will suck > up whatever CPU and memory you've allocated to the virtual windows machine > but then you quit and that all comes back to the Mac side. > > I haven't used boot camp but disk utility is fully accessible so you should > be able to do the disk partitioning yourself if you want to go that way. I'm > sure others here can give the blow by blow instructions. > > CB > > On 6/16/13 6:21 PM, zoe wrote: >> Oh ok got it now. One more question that I thought of and please accept my >> appologies for asking what may seem stupid questions and for asking them >> scattered, my mind is all over the place and I seem to be asking questions >> as they come. Am I to understand that with bootcamp the drive would be >> partitioned but with fusion it would not? Apple said for the partitioning >> of the drive they would charge me two hundred and fifty dollars, if I half >> to pay it oh well, then I will, but have I gotten confused somewhere down >> the line? I'm sure the drive is partitioned for bootcamp but fusion? >> Thanks again and again I'm so sorry for my confusion. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Alex Hall" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:50 PM >> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel >> >> >> No, Refit is free and something you will add once you get your machine. Jaws >> can only read the Windows logon/lock screens, not the boot screen. When a >> computer first boots, no operating system has started yet, which is why no >> screen reader can possibly be loaded. >> On Jun 16, 2013, at 4:21 PM, zoe wrote: >> >>> h refit manager is that something extra I half to by or can apple add >>> it >>> on for me? Also since I'm going to be installing windows with jaws, and >>> jaws can be configured to the log screen would that do the trick? >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Alex Hall" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:46 PM >>> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel >>> >>> >>> Voiceover cannot speak on the boot screen since it is not loaded yet. >>> Apple >>> would have to add some form of speech into BIOS, which would be difficult >>> to >>> impossible. You can do what I did, though: install the Refit Boot Manager, >>> letting you press m for mac or w for windows when you boot the machine. >>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:20 AM, zoe wrote: >>> Oh thanks so much, good to know I won't have problems with jaws. As I said the man at the apple store actually suggested parallel but if fusion does the trick and most people seem to like it I guess maybe that's the way to go especially if I'm going to be asking for advice on the use of the program. The man at the store thought parallel was a better choice but didn't state the reasons why. Don't mean to be repetative but can apple configure voiceover for me when shipping the imac to me to start up automatically? Also if using fusion will voiceover speak on the log screen to help me navigate weather I want to boot mac or windows? - Original Message - From: "Nicholas Parsons" To: Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:51 AM Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel Yes, you can install JAWS or any other screen reader on the Windows part of your Mac. It doesn't matter whether it's running as a duel installation (i.e. bootcamp) or as
Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
Thanks, Phil. This is good to know. I just want something that will be stable that I can boot into and work in a Windows environment eight hours a day if I need to and it be as if I were on a PC, and it sounds like this is what I am looking for. Thanks, again, Harry On Jun 19, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Phil Halton wrote: > It will run at nearly native speed. It still must go through some emulation. > That is, BIOS (Basic Input Output system) which is what supports PC's at the > machine level has to be simulated - windows can't run on the underlying > software that runs MAC (I can't remember what its called). As I understand > it, Bootcamp makes that simulation possible. But, there's no appreciable or > noticeable lag at all. > > ----- Original Message - From: "Harry Hogue" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:22 AM > Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel > > > Hello Phil and Others, > > I have a group of DVD-R's, and also CD-R;s. I burned the Windows ISO file > onto a DVD-R and then realized the DVD was in Mac Extended format. However, > it doesn't show up in the Disk Utility when it is just blank, so I can't seem > to format it to FAT32 or whatever format I need. I have Dropboxed the > Windows ISO file to have a person using Windows put it on the DVD, but is > there anything special I need to do in either case to make it a bootable DVD > so I can install Windows? The Windows drivers and support files it wanted me > to install on a USB flash drive formatted as FAT32, which I have done, and > they are on there with no problem. > > I really appreciate any help. It is very kind and really useful. Once this > is done, I understand that Windows will run at native speed without the delay > of a virtual machine? But also if I understand correctly, I will still need > to reconfigure my capslock key to work as an insert key, or a similar key to > do the same? > > Thanks so much, > > Hary > > On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:28 AM, zoe wrote: > >> Hi Phill, all of you have been so helpful and I appreciate it so much, and I >> think you guys have saved me some money as well. When I'm ready I would >> really appreciate that website so I don't make any mistakes. I will save >> this message and refer back to it when I'm ready and if you can send me that >> link that will be great. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:59 PM >> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel >> >> >> 1) no, they won't help you with bootcamp >> 2) Hold down the option key for around 10 seconds more or less after the >> boot sound >> 3) Yes, burn the windows7 iso so you can insert the disk when asked by >> bootcamp utility. >> 4) I have a website address that has the steps (screens) involved in >> installing windows7, and I'll shoot it over to you when you're ready to get >> into the details of installing windows. They're pretty much right on the >> money as far as what order what screens appear and what you need to enter on >> them. When I did my bootcamp install, I had a sighted friend sit here and >> read the screens and do some of the typing and mouse clicking to make the >> process go faster and easier. >> >> After windows7 is installed and rebooted, then you install the bootcamp >> drivers that you burn previously from the bootcamp utility. Then you can >> install your screen reader and take over from there. I had three disks ready >> at hand, windows7 ISO, Bootcamp drivers, and Jaws setup.exe >> The whole process went smooth as warm milk through a puppy. >> >> the only tricky part in the windows install was selecting the bootcamp >> partition, and telling windows to format the partition before installing, If >> you don't do that step, windows will be installed on an unformatted >> partition and obviously won't work. >> >> Before I did any of this, I got the bootcamp installation instructions from >> the bootcamp utility and read it thoroughly, then I read thoroughly the >> website that I mentioned to understand what was essentially involved in the >> windows install part. I think the reading is important - you don't want to >> make any mistakes because you didn't know what you were doing. >> >> BTW: I agree with you about the superb accessibility of MS Office and Jaws, >> That combo can't be beat for productivity work. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Harry Hogue" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:
Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
Hello Phil and Others, I have a group of DVD-R's, and also CD-R;s. I burned the Windows ISO file onto a DVD-R and then realized the DVD was in Mac Extended format. However, it doesn't show up in the Disk Utility when it is just blank, so I can't seem to format it to FAT32 or whatever format I need. I have Dropboxed the Windows ISO file to have a person using Windows put it on the DVD, but is there anything special I need to do in either case to make it a bootable DVD so I can install Windows? The Windows drivers and support files it wanted me to install on a USB flash drive formatted as FAT32, which I have done, and they are on there with no problem. I really appreciate any help. It is very kind and really useful. Once this is done, I understand that Windows will run at native speed without the delay of a virtual machine? But also if I understand correctly, I will still need to reconfigure my capslock key to work as an insert key, or a similar key to do the same? Thanks so much, Hary On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:28 AM, zoe wrote: > Hi Phill, all of you have been so helpful and I appreciate it so much, and I > think you guys have saved me some money as well. When I'm ready I would > really appreciate that website so I don't make any mistakes. I will save > this message and refer back to it when I'm ready and if you can send me that > link that will be great. > > - Original Message - > From: "Phil Halton" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:59 PM > Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel > > > 1) no, they won't help you with bootcamp > 2) Hold down the option key for around 10 seconds more or less after the > boot sound > 3) Yes, burn the windows7 iso so you can insert the disk when asked by > bootcamp utility. > 4) I have a website address that has the steps (screens) involved in > installing windows7, and I'll shoot it over to you when you're ready to get > into the details of installing windows. They're pretty much right on the > money as far as what order what screens appear and what you need to enter on > them. When I did my bootcamp install, I had a sighted friend sit here and > read the screens and do some of the typing and mouse clicking to make the > process go faster and easier. > > After windows7 is installed and rebooted, then you install the bootcamp > drivers that you burn previously from the bootcamp utility. Then you can > install your screen reader and take over from there. I had three disks ready > at hand, windows7 ISO, Bootcamp drivers, and Jaws setup.exe > The whole process went smooth as warm milk through a puppy. > > the only tricky part in the windows install was selecting the bootcamp > partition, and telling windows to format the partition before installing, If > you don't do that step, windows will be installed on an unformatted > partition and obviously won't work. > > Before I did any of this, I got the bootcamp installation instructions from > the bootcamp utility and read it thoroughly, then I read thoroughly the > website that I mentioned to understand what was essentially involved in the > windows install part. I think the reading is important - you don't want to > make any mistakes because you didn't know what you were doing. > > BTW: I agree with you about the superb accessibility of MS Office and Jaws, > That combo can't be beat for productivity work. > > - Original Message - > From: "Harry Hogue" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:07 PM > Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel > > > Hello Guys, > > As regards VMWare Fusion vs. Bookcamp, here are my thoughts: > > I am running 4gb of ram with VMWare Fusion (Windows 7 and JAWS 13), and > despite the fact that it works okay, not counting the problems I wrote about > most recently on this list, I am going to switch to Bootcamp for the > following reasons: > > 1. Productivity and stability. I need Windows to run as if it were the > only operating system, and I need to be ale to take full advantage of MS > Word, Excel, and the accessibility of JAWS with these programs, as well as > running Kurzweil 1000 v. 11 with a scanner. My work will soon be requiring > me to have the ability to do track changes, leave comments on files I edit, > and all without the need t oworry about mistakes with formatting due to > converting from pages back to Word. > > All-in-all, I think it is all very individual. It sounds like if I want to > use Bootcamp that I should get a blank CD to burn my Windows ISO file for my > copy of Windows that I still have availabe through the Microsoft Store. > Then basically it sounds like I should get someone with a little more
Re: rich text edit areas and VO?
Hello alex, Rich edit areas are notoriously bad with VO. The work-around I have found is to type your text in TextEdit or another word processor and then paste it into the rich text edit area after interacting with the area. If you turn QuickNav off and arrow up and down you can see that your text is there but you are unable to move by word, character, etc. HTH, Harry On Jun 17, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > Hi all, > I am trying to fill out a form, and one part is some kind of rich text edit > area. I can interact with it, but Voiceover does nothing - I cannot type, no > commands like cmd-v seem to work, nothing. Is there a trick to using these > edit controls? Thanks. > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
Hello Guys, As regards VMWare Fusion vs. Bookcamp, here are my thoughts: I am running 4gb of ram with VMWare Fusion (Windows 7 and JAWS 13), and despite the fact that it works okay, not counting the problems I wrote about most recently on this list, I am going to switch to Bootcamp for the following reasons: 1. Productivity and stability. I need Windows to run as if it were the only operating system, and I need to be ale to take full advantage of MS Word, Excel, and the accessibility of JAWS with these programs, as well as running Kurzweil 1000 v. 11 with a scanner. My work will soon be requiring me to have the ability to do track changes, leave comments on files I edit, and all without the need t oworry about mistakes with formatting due to converting from pages back to Word. All-in-all, I think it is all very individual. It sounds like if I want to use Bootcamp that I should get a blank CD to burn my Windows ISO file for my copy of Windows that I still have availabe through the Microsoft Store. Then basically it sounds like I should get someone with a little more computer knowledge than I have to get things up and running for me. I also like the idea of using Boocamp so I don't have to worry about JAWS authorization problems -- authorize it once and I should be good to go, regardless if I create different user accounts on the Windows partition. The process gets confusing because there are so many different things to consider. For example, do I still need to remap an insert key when using Bootcamp, or do the Bootcamp drivers take care of those issues for me with a laptop keyboard? Also, I like the idea of holding down the option key and selecting the operating system at the boot screen -- is it difficult to knwo when to hold the option key down or how long to hold it down for? Thanks for your thoughts. I wonder if people at an Apple Store woudl be able to help me with the Bootcamp installation. Thanks, Harry On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi Phil, > Yes you did say no cd/dvd drive on the iMac. I didn't look at the hard drive > spec for all flavors of iMac. I looked at the cheapest 21-inch model, and in > the configuration section, it is listed as 5400 rpm, and then there are > upgrade choices, including a fusion drive and various sizes of ssd. They > don't say if the fusion drive is also based on that 5400 rpm drive or not. > Maybe it is a misprint?? Since I have a monitor, keyboard and magic track > pad, I'm thinking the mewer mini that starts at 800 bucks is a better way to > go than the iMac, although the greater ram possibility in the iMac is a good > argument for that one for future proofing, I suppose. > > Mary > > > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Chess anyone?
I believe in the menus there is an option to speak moves, but I've not done much wit hthe game. Harry On Jun 16, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Dave wrote: > OK, is there a way to play the chess game on my Mac? If so, can I play > against someone on my local network running a Mac as well? > > I can see the board, can see the pieces, but can't seem to figure out how to > make moves and such. > > Thanks in advance. > > Dave > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Strange Issue with VMWare Fusion/Sharing Virtual Machine between OSX User Accounts
Hello, In brief, the situation is as follows: Two different accounts for OSX and Windows both, one for personal and one for work, to keep things nicely separated. Tried to share the VM between both OSX user accounts by placing the VM in /users/shared, and now Sharpkeys mapping for right option to capslock/insert is no longer remembered, and even after reauthorizing JAWS, the authorization is not remembered on either Windows account and regardless of the OSX user logged in at the time. More detailed explanation follows in a numbered list if it is helpful. 1. I have two different OSX user accounts -- one for personal use and one for use at my work. 2. I want to share my virtual machine between these two user accounts, so I followed instructions I found through a Google search which directed me to put the .vmwarevm file into /users/shared 3. Now, my JAWS authorization is not remembered, nor is the right option key acting as my insert key as I had set in Sharpkeys, although it does still function as the capslock key, for some strange reason. 4. Sharpkeys 3.5 does not appear to work non-visually, so I am unable to set the right option ke as my insert key again. 5. Not that this necessarily matters, as the VM will mirror files and folders of the current OSX user, but I had created two Windows accounts as well -- one for personal and one for work, just to sort of keep things similar. I think I am complicating things, to be sure, and I had heard that JAWS will think the authorization has been moved off the computer if the VM is moved, but why would nothing I originally have set be remembered, such as my insert key mapping through Sharpkeys? Also I did reauthorize JAWS last night, and it said it was successful, but it is not remembered anymore, no matter what OSX account or Windows account I am on. Sometimes I just hate JAWS and Windows both, but I need to take advantage of Microsoft Word and Excel. Thanks for any thoughts, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Reading PDF files in 10.8.4
That's a little annoying, since I like reading them a page at a time. However, the PDF files read much much better -- thank goodness! Cheers, Harry On Jun 14, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Barry Hadder wrote: > Hi, > > You can only read pdf files in continuous scroll with vo in 10.8.4. > > On Jun 14, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Harry Hogue wrote: > > hello, > > Does anyone have experience reading PDF files in Previous with ML 10.8.4? > Since updating yesterday or the day before I can't read any content in any > PDF file -- I only hear "Text," and can't read further. Interestingly, text > navigation was supposed to have been improved. > > Thanks for any thoughts. It might be a setting I need to change, as I'm > certain at least one or two of the PDF files I had on my computer I was able > to read, if badly, before this. > > Thanks, > > Harry > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Reading PDF files in 10.8.4
hello, Does anyone have experience reading PDF files in Previous with ML 10.8.4? Since updating yesterday or the day before I can't read any content in any PDF file -- I only hear "Text," and can't read further. Interestingly, text navigation was supposed to have been improved. Thanks for any thoughts. It might be a setting I need to change, as I'm certain at least one or two of the PDF files I had on my computer I was able to read, if badly, before this. Thanks, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Basic Recording with Garage Band
Hello, I need to make a simple and basic recording with Garage Band in mp3 format. I need to be able to start recording, pause in the middle, resume the recording, and of course play, rewind, and fast forward the recording to review it once it is finished. What i the best way to do this with Garage Band? Thanks, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
VoiceOver Preferences and Sharing Programs Between Accounts
hello all, I have a couple of unrelated questions. First, does anyone know if it is possible to set voiceover preferences and then send these preferences to someone else so they can then use them in their own VoiceOver settings? I have a friend who uses VoiceOver, but lives half way around the world, so it would be better to e-mail a settings file to him. Although I could explain how to adjust settings for application menu short cuts and so forth, it would be much quicker if I could set these myself and then send him a file that he could simply put in a specific place. Then he could use the preferences I have set, including application short uts, pronunciation preferences, etc. My other question has to do with my own computer. I have two accounts -- one for personal use and another for professional uses. Is there a way to share my virtual machine Windows between these two accounts? Right now when I go to the other account and VMWare Fusion, it welcomes me to VMWare and aks me to eitehr load a VM or install a VM, etc. If possible, I would like Windows on the VM on the professional account to mirror the contents of my professional account, meaning any files on my Desktop, etc. I can't imagine much I would need the VM on my professional account for expect for maybe Excel, MS Word, and the like, but I would like to have the option. So is there anyway of doing this without completely reinstalling Windows? Thanks, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VO improvements in the next update
Alex, those are good points. i would also love to see support for track changes in Pages. Harry On May 26, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > We don't even know if the article is correct. It is possible that those notes > were from some developer spilling the beans and posting the update list from > a 10.8.4 beta, but that's the point: it's a beta. As to when it will come > out, it could be months yet, no one knows. The last update (10.8.3) went > through 13 betas before it was released, and this one has had four or six, I > can't remember. Yes, it could be out tomorrow, but it could as easily be > quite a while, that's just how Apple works. > > That said, I can't wait, and I really hope the update includes the > improvements they said. I think text works well, but PDF reading is horrible, > so I hope they fix that. The only thing I can think of in terms of text is > table support, which would be a very welcomed addition to VO. > On May 26, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: > >> Do we know what the word processing updates will be or when this update will >> come out? >> >> Harry >> >> On May 26, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Michael Marshall >> wrote: >> >>> i would love in the next update if VO would stop giving that stupid 1 row >>> added message really i would give anything. >>> >>> Michael >>> On 27/05/2013, at 12:36 AM, Brandt wrote: >>> >>>> The link seems to be useless. Even googled the link and no go. >>>> >>>> Warm regards, >>>> >>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>> >>>> Sent from my macbook pro >>>> >>>> Contact me: >>>> >>>> Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013 >>>> >>>> Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> My ring to Skype: >>>> California, United States >>>> +(1)760-5140161 >>>> Extension 512 >>>> Cape Town, South Africa >>>> +(27)213-002317 >>>> Extension 161 >>>> Johannesburg, South Africa >>>> +(27)105-002316 >>>> Extension 170 >>>> >>>> Skype: Brandt.steenkamp007 >>>> >>>> SIP: 5500...@spokn.com >>>> >>>> Twitter: brandtsteenkamp >>>> >>>> On 26 May 2013, at 2:02 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I'm very glad to forward this link to you. A little tiny line says, the >>>>> next update is gonna bring improvements for VoiceOver for word processing >>>>> and PDF. >>>>> >>>>> http://macdailynews.com/2013/05/25/apples-os-x-10-8-4-to-deliver-wifi-compatibility-facetime-fix-802-11ac-and-more/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wordpress/xhfA+(MacDailyNews) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Isn't that great? I Hope this will fix the pdf issues in Preview and - >>>>> who knows - bring tables compatibility to VO. Let's dream big! :-) >>>>> That shows to me how important it is to send bug reports to >>>>> accessibil...@apple.com. >>>>> >>>>> All the best >>>>> Jürgen >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>&
Re: VO improvements in the next update
Do we know what the word processing updates will be or when this update will come out? Harry On May 26, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Michael Marshall wrote: > i would love in the next update if VO would stop giving that stupid 1 row > added message really i would give anything. > > Michael > On 27/05/2013, at 12:36 AM, Brandt wrote: > >> The link seems to be useless. Even googled the link and no go. >> >> Warm regards, >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> Sent from my macbook pro >> >> Contact me: >> >> Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013 >> >> Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >> >> My ring to Skype: >> California, United States >> +(1)760-5140161 >> Extension 512 >> Cape Town, South Africa >> +(27)213-002317 >> Extension 161 >> Johannesburg, South Africa >> +(27)105-002316 >> Extension 170 >> >> Skype: Brandt.steenkamp007 >> >> SIP: 5500...@spokn.com >> >> Twitter: brandtsteenkamp >> >> On 26 May 2013, at 2:02 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm very glad to forward this link to you. A little tiny line says, the >>> next update is gonna bring improvements for VoiceOver for word processing >>> and PDF. >>> >>> http://macdailynews.com/2013/05/25/apples-os-x-10-8-4-to-deliver-wifi-compatibility-facetime-fix-802-11ac-and-more/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wordpress/xhfA+(MacDailyNews) >>> >>> >>> Isn't that great? I Hope this will fix the pdf issues in Preview and - who >>> knows - bring tables compatibility to VO. Let's dream big! :-) >>> That shows to me how important it is to send bug reports to >>> accessibil...@apple.com. >>> >>> All the best >>> Jürgen >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Tips on Working with Keynote to Create PowerPoint Presentations
I've never made a PowerPoint presentation, either in Windows or on the mac. Is there anything I should know as far as how I write it? Since it does bullet points, I guess it does them automatically in the body text area, but do I need to be careful how much text I put on each line, etc? Thanks for any tips. Harry On May 23, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > Check it first, though. My sister made a Powerpoint presentation on a Mac and > saved it as a .ppt file, but when she opened it on Windows, her main graphic > was upside down. So yes, it should mostly work, but run through it once on > Windows to be sure everything came out correctly. > On May 23, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Short answer is "yes". As long as you don't use fancy media or other >> transitions that PPT cannot deal with, you should be fine. Just make sure >> to save it as a PowerPoint document after you're done. Actually, I usually >> save it as both so I can more easily get at the original Keynote >> presentation if I need to make changes and such. >> >> Later.. >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On 2013-05-23, at 4:10 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I need to use Keynote to create a basic PPT presentation on 10-15 slides. >>> Is it able to be used with VoiceOver and then saved as a PPT format while >>> retaining the original formatting, etc? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Harry >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Tips on Working with Keynote to Create PowerPoint Presentations
Hello, I need to use Keynote to create a basic PPT presentation on 10-15 slides. Is it able to be used with VoiceOver and then saved as a PPT format while retaining the original formatting, etc? Thanks, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Online banking issue redux
This is very vague on details; if you provide us with information regarding what settings your bank uses, what settings are typically recommended by users of the site, browser version, cookies, java, etc. we may be able to provide some more helpful ideas. Hopefully it is just a small setting, and I also sometimes find clearing the cache helps. HTH, Harry On May 21, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: > Some time ago I wrote that I went from being able to do everything on my > bank's web site to being dumped out as soon as I logged in. > At the time, I had updated the software on my MacBook, but my husband hadn't. > This explained why I was able to use his computer to do my banking. Until > now. > > He is up to date now, and yet I can still do banking on his computer, but not > on mine. What gives? Is there some setting that might be configured on his > that is not on mine? What should I look for? What is the most likely > culprit? As far as I know, we have identical settings and configurations. > (Please note: I did try the Java manipulations suggested a few months ago, > with no difference in outcome.) > > Christine > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Learning Objective C Xcode Source Files and .app files
Thanks much! I'll give these a look, and really appreciate the info/links and advice. Regards, Harry On May 21, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > The Apple developer site is your best friend. You might find these links > helpful. > > http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/ProgrammingWithObjectiveC/Introduction/Introduction.html > > https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/CocoaFundamentals/Introduction/Introduction.html > > That should keep you busy for a while. > > I also want to point out that you can access all of the documentation on the > Apple developer site within the organizer window in xCode. > > -- > Barry Hadder > bhad...@gmail.com > https://twitter.com/BarryHadder > UnitMaster > Available in the Mac app store. > > > On May 21, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I am interested in learning to write programs on the Mac strictly through > code so I can avoid all of the UI difficulties with VoiceOver. I have no > previous experience with programming, but I know that this is possible. Is > there anywhere I could find all of the original Xcode source files/folder of > files for a .app program and the .ap program? That way I could play with the > program and then look at the elements that make up the program? Or, perhaps > even more helpful, is there some sort of guide on writing programs using > Xcode without the drag/drop UI, and explanations of doing everything > programatically? > > Thanks for any help. > > Harry > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Learning Objective C Xcode Source Files and .app files
Xcode is free to download from the Mac Ap Store. Thanks, Harry On May 21, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I'm pretty sure you need to buy this from the Mac app store. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On May 21, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Chris H wrote: > >> Where can I get X-code from as it did not come with my Mac. >> >> >> Chris >> E-mail and Facebook: >> challswor...@sky.com >> Skype: >> chrishallsworth7266 >> Twitter: >> http://www.twitter.com/@christopherh40 >> Find my blog at >> challsworth2.wordpress.com >> >> On 21/05/2013 21:41, Harry Hogue wrote: >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> I am interested in learning to write programs on the Mac strictly through >>> code so I can avoid all of the UI difficulties with VoiceOver. I have no >>> previous experience with programming, but I know that this is possible. Is >>> there anywhere I could find all of the original Xcode source files/folder >>> of files for a .app program and the .ap program? That way I could play >>> with the program and then look at the elements that make up the program? >>> Or, perhaps even more helpful, is there some sort of guide on writing >>> programs using Xcode without the drag/drop UI, and explanations of doing >>> everything programatically? >>> >>> Thanks for any help. >>> >>> Harry >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Learning Objective C Xcode Source Files and .app files
Hello everyone, I am interested in learning to write programs on the Mac strictly through code so I can avoid all of the UI difficulties with VoiceOver. I have no previous experience with programming, but I know that this is possible. Is there anywhere I could find all of the original Xcode source files/folder of files for a .app program and the .ap program? That way I could play with the program and then look at the elements that make up the program? Or, perhaps even more helpful, is there some sort of guide on writing programs using Xcode without the drag/drop UI, and explanations of doing everything programatically? Thanks for any help. Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: MUD clients, was Re: Text Adventure Games on OSX
Thanks much; I'll give this a look, and thanks for the prompt reply. Harry On May 20, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Devin Prater wrote: > Your welcome, and happy adventuring. And on a sidenote, does anyone know of a > better MUD client than Tintin++? That's the terminal MUD client. > > Sent from my iPod > > On 20 mai 2013, at 17:54, Cait and Maggie wrote: > >> ok, thanks, will do. >> Cait >> >> On 2013-05-20, at 6:52 PM, Devin Prater wrote: >> >>> I don't think so. Try just searching for it. >>> >>> Sent from my iPod >>> >>> On 20 mai 2013, at 17:51, Cait and Maggie wrote: >>> >>>> Can you get this in the app store? >>>> Cait >>>> >>>> On 2013-05-20, at 6:48 PM, Devin Prater wrote: >>>> >>>>> The frotz version is OK. Zoom for mac is amazingly good though, I >>>>> recommend it over the other for iOS though. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPod >>>>> >>>>> On 20 mai 2013, at 16:44, Cait and Maggie >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Harry, >>>>>> There's froths. I know you said you weren't interested in the iOS side >>>>>> of things. they do have an iOS version of it, but they might do a mac >>>>>> version as well, I think I remember somebody saying there was awhile >>>>>> back. There are tons of games that come with it. >>>>>> hth, >>>>>> Cait >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2013-05-20, at 5:45 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is anyone familiar with how to play text adventure games on OSX under >>>>>>> Mountain Lion? I am interested in the Desktop platform rather than the >>>>>>> mobile side of things, but either would work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I looked on ifarchive.org and it looks like the interpreters are for >>>>>>> much older versions of the Mac, like 10.3 and earlier. I like text >>>>>>> adventures and would like to check them out again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Harry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >&
Text Adventure Games on OSX
Hello, Is anyone familiar with how to play text adventure games on OSX under Mountain Lion? I am interested in the Desktop platform rather than the mobile side of things, but either would work. I looked on ifarchive.org and it looks like the interpreters are for much older versions of the Mac, like 10.3 and earlier. I like text adventures and would like to check them out again. Thanks, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Ideas for games?
Hello, I would love to see an accessible version of soccer and also baseball, where you have complete control of all aspects of the game from selecting players, etc. and also that they be as realistic as possible. Thanks! Harry On May 20, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Michael Babcock wrote: > Ladies and gentlemen, > I am proud to announce that I have currently hired a team of application > developers to create the next accessible great game! Now is your opportunity > to have your own input, and help create one of the new, and exciting games > for the blind, visually impaired, and sided communities alike! > I understand that there are presently audio games out there, and they work > fairly nicely! However, I am looking to create a application that as I stated > the blind, visually impaired, and siding can all participate in and enjoy at > the same time! > Could you guys please throw around a few ideas for games that you one of mine > playing on your mobile device? > I really think that this is a market that needs to be explored more! > And, there is potential for the application to make it to the desktop > platform as well! > Please, any ideas that are excepted, will be included with the individuals > name who originally brings it up as for crediting in the application. > Michael, excited > > Need a ripple code? Text me, 406-212-8503 visit startmyripple.com > Http://empoweringtheblind.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Skipping YouTube Ads and Subtitles in YouTube Videos
How did you discover these controls, by the way? I stumbled on them by mistake because I pressed the wrong key. And no, it has nothing to do with keeping you from skipping ads, as visually you are able to skip ads after five seconds for the majority of the ads. Harry On May 19, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Candie Stiles wrote: > Yes I have the same difficulty. I'm wondering if this was done intentionally > so you couldn't skip over the adds. The controls work find in the video > itself but don't do anything when the adds are playing. > On May 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Harry Hogue wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Does anyone else have problems skipping YouTube ads when using youtube.com >> on the Mac? It works great on IOS, but with the regular website on the Mac, >> although I can go back in the video with J, play/pause with K, and fast >> forward with L, I don't know how to skip an ad at the beginning. Is it >> because it is embedded into a javascript or something like that? >> >> Also, does anyone know how to view the subtitles or other text included with >> a YouTube video? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Harry >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Skipping YouTube Ads and Subtitles in YouTube Videos
Hello, Does anyone else have problems skipping YouTube ads when using youtube.com on the Mac? It works great on IOS, but with the regular website on the Mac, although I can go back in the video with J, play/pause with K, and fast forward with L, I don't know how to skip an ad at the beginning. Is it because it is embedded into a javascript or something like that? Also, does anyone know how to view the subtitles or other text included with a YouTube video? Thanks, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Any Accessible Database Programs for the Mac with VO
Hi Brian, I'm not sure what happened with the phone, but I was glad to help, and I hope it works great for you. It was nice talking to you, and good luck. Take care, Harry On May 17, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > I have been using Numbers and have reached the frustration point of > all of its issues with VO. There is no search functionality when you > need to jump down a spreadsheet since Mountain Lion was introduced as > it broke the old search command. Additionally several times a day when > enterting info into a cell numbers just stops working with VO, and I > have to quit the program than reopen and go back to the cell where I > was enterting info. Also, I constantly get busy busy messages when > enterting info. Yes, I have spoken to Apple Accessibility about all > the issues and have gotten the usual response, we are aware of the > issues but can't tell you when they will be fixed. I find it pathetic > that such a forward thinking company about accessibility in Apple > can't get their own product to properly work with VO. As someone who > uses spreadsheets quite a bit for work, I need to find something else > to use. I need a program to keep track of contacts with when I last > contacted them, what the response was and other info, so viewing and > editing all of this in a spread sheet would be perfect. Is there any > spread sheet program or database program that anyone knows of that > works well with VO? Thanks so much. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Any Accessible Database Programs for the Mac with VO
Brian, You can arrow down through the list of records in the database, yes. There is a bit of interacting to view the particular record, as you interact with a scroll area, but it really isn't difficult. The idea of a database, if you aren't familiar, is that you view a record at a time. Say you should want to find information on a customer or contact who contacted you regarding a particular issue, or you want to find anything related to a particular keyword, you can do a search within a specific form for any records related to that keyword or keywords. Databases work to organize information to keep all like data together, which means that you have a standard form related to medical visits, say. Then you create records using that form that tell about all of the different medical visits you or others had. That way if you want to find particular information on a medical visit you can search within that form. If you are looking for a particular order number to see what customer it applies to, you search for it and it quickly brings up that information. I have to say I haven't used it very much yet, but from what I have used of it, I love it. I hope this is helpful and isn't to confusing. Thanks, Harry On May 17, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Hey Harry, Thanks so much for the info. Wil check this out in the app > store, as my frustration has boiled over with Numbers. Can you create > an accessible spreadsheet inthe mac version or something similar like > a list view of all your contacts that you can quickly scroll through > with the arrows or other commands. Just want to make sure the program > does what I need it to do before spending the dollars. Thanks > > On May 17, 2:13 pm, Harry Hogue wrote: >> Brian, >> >> I love Tap Forms, a database software package which costs $24.99 in the Mac >> Appstore. It works beautifully with VO, has an OSX and an IOS version, both >> which must be purchased separately, although the OSX version is the one that >> costs $24.99, while the IOS version is around $6.00. You are able to create >> your own form fields for database info, including checkboxes, a notes field, >> a website field, regular text input areas for name, address, etc. In >> addition, you can also insert the date and time if you want to have the >> current date and time automatically inserted. It comes with predesigned >> forms for you to view and add records to so you can become comfortable with >> the program before you begin creating your own database forms. >> >> I hope this helps! >> >> Harry >> >> On May 17, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> I have been using Numbers and have reached the frustration point of >>> all of its issues with VO. There is no search functionality when you >>> need to jump down a spreadsheet since Mountain Lion was introduced as >>> it broke the old search command. Additionally several times a day when >>> enterting info into a cell numbers just stops working with VO, and I >>> have to quit the program than reopen and go back to the cell where I >>> was enterting info. Also, I constantly get busy busy messages when >>> enterting info. Yes, I have spoken to Apple Accessibility about all >>> the issues and have gotten the usual response, we are aware of the >>> issues but can't tell you when they will be fixed. I find it pathetic >>> that such a forward thinking company about accessibility in Apple >>> can't get their own product to properly work with VO. As someone who >>> uses spreadsheets quite a bit for work, I need to find something else >>> to use. I need a program to keep track of contacts with when I last >>> contacted them, what the response was and other info, so viewing and >>> editing all of this in a spread sheet would be perfect. Is there any >>> spread sheet program or database program that anyone knows of that >>> works well with VO? Thanks so much. >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "M
Re: Any Accessible Database Programs for the Mac with VO
Brian, I love Tap Forms, a database software package which costs $24.99 in the Mac Appstore. It works beautifully with VO, has an OSX and an IOS version, both which must be purchased separately, although the OSX version is the one that costs $24.99, while the IOS version is around $6.00. You are able to create your own form fields for database info, including checkboxes, a notes field, a website field, regular text input areas for name, address, etc. In addition, you can also insert the date and time if you want to have the current date and time automatically inserted. It comes with predesigned forms for you to view and add records to so you can become comfortable with the program before you begin creating your own database forms. I hope this helps! Harry On May 17, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > I have been using Numbers and have reached the frustration point of > all of its issues with VO. There is no search functionality when you > need to jump down a spreadsheet since Mountain Lion was introduced as > it broke the old search command. Additionally several times a day when > enterting info into a cell numbers just stops working with VO, and I > have to quit the program than reopen and go back to the cell where I > was enterting info. Also, I constantly get busy busy messages when > enterting info. Yes, I have spoken to Apple Accessibility about all > the issues and have gotten the usual response, we are aware of the > issues but can't tell you when they will be fixed. I find it pathetic > that such a forward thinking company about accessibility in Apple > can't get their own product to properly work with VO. As someone who > uses spreadsheets quite a bit for work, I need to find something else > to use. I need a program to keep track of contacts with when I last > contacted them, what the response was and other info, so viewing and > editing all of this in a spread sheet would be perfect. Is there any > spread sheet program or database program that anyone knows of that > works well with VO? Thanks so much. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Accounting Software Alternatives
Hello, >From what I have been able to find in the archives, there really is no useful >accounting software that works with VoiceOver. Given that, for those of you >who have your own business, what do you find is the best way to manage the >accounting responsibilities on the mac with VoiceOver? I am exploring the >idea of beginning a small business and want to have things in place before I >present the idea to Voc Rehab. Thanks much, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Tap Forms
Nicholas, I haven't tried the IOS app yet, and I have not tried the search feature yet, as I am trying to decide what would be most useful for me to include in my own form for client records. I have discovered that you record an audio note on the IOS device and you can then play it on OSX, but you are not able to record on the OSX app, unfortunately. I thought that'd be a pretty nice feature to have. I found this app when looking for alternative to Bento, which I have heard mixed reviews about, mostly negative, from reviews of people complaining that they keep removing useful features. HTH, Harry On May 5, 2013, at 7:52 PM, Nicholas Parsons wrote: > Sorry, you can ignore that last message. In my excitement I replied before > doing my own research. The page in the App Store answered most of my > questions. Now I just need to have an internal battle over whether it's worth > me spending more money on an app which is totally cool but I could probably > live without. > > Have you tried the iOS version yet? If so, is it accessible too? > > > On 06/05/2013, at 11:42 AM, Nicholas Parsons > wrote: > > Hi Harry, > > This really interests me. Is the idea that you can create your own databases > with this software? Can you do advanced searches limited or filtered by > criteria which you have added to entries in the database? > > Is it available through the Mac App Store? I'll go search for it now but if > not would be helpful to know. > > Cheers, > Nic > > On 05/05/2013, at 6:24 AM, Harry Hogue wrote: > > Hello, > > I wanted to let you guys know about Tap Forms by Tap Zapp Software, Inc. It > is database software which runs on OSX and IOS, but each must be purchased > separately to allow cloud syncing. The OSX version costs $24.99 USD. It is > completely accessible from what I can tell, and it allows search rules for > quick searching and retrieval of records, although i have yet to try this > feature. You can both import and export CSV files from Numbers/Excel, as > well as import, export, and print records. You can include checkboxes, > notes, and pick lists in your forms from which you then create your records. > It supports file attachments as well. It seems like a wonderful product so > far. > > Thanks, > > Harry > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Tap Forms
Hello, I wanted to let you guys know about Tap Forms by Tap Zapp Software, Inc. It is database software which runs on OSX and IOS, but each must be purchased separately to allow cloud syncing. The OSX version costs $24.99 USD. It is completely accessible from what I can tell, and it allows search rules for quick searching and retrieval of records, although i have yet to try this feature. You can both import and export CSV files from Numbers/Excel, as well as import, export, and print records. You can include checkboxes, notes, and pick lists in your forms from which you then create your records. It supports file attachments as well. It seems like a wonderful product so far. Thanks, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Java-based Applications
Hello, What applications do you use that give you some success? What really can cause issues is when there are combo boxes to work with, as VoiceOver, by default, says they are empty. Thanks, Harry On May 3, 2013, at 5:56 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: > Hi Harry, > > I can't solve your problem but as you asked, yes I have limited success with > java applications on the mac. I can read parts of their interface, and > routing your mouse and clicking, seems to be the way to go, as opposed to > using the default action from voiceover, i.e. vo spacebar on the item. As > long as you can trigger actions by routing and clicking, it's doabler, but > agreed, far from nice. > > Hth, > Paul. > On May 2, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: > >> Hello, has anyone had luck with java-based OSX applications? I have managed >> to get them working somewhat using the trackpad and by routing the mouse >> pointer and clicking, etc. but it isn't perfect. The applications I am >> trying to work with are OmegaT, Heartsome Translation Studio, and Gant >> Project. I would rather work with OmegaT because is the most well know of >> the three, is free, and supports many file formats, but it is the one that >> is giving me the most trouble, for whatever reason. All of these programs >> are translation software for translators. >> >> Thanks for any tips/advice for dealing with java. >> >> Harry >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Java-based Applications
Hello, has anyone had luck with java-based OSX applications? I have managed to get them working somewhat using the trackpad and by routing the mouse pointer and clicking, etc. but it isn't perfect. The applications I am trying to work with are OmegaT, Heartsome Translation Studio, and Gant Project. I would rather work with OmegaT because is the most well know of the three, is free, and supports many file formats, but it is the one that is giving me the most trouble, for whatever reason. All of these programs are translation software for translators. Thanks for any tips/advice for dealing with java. Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Apple Submenu
Could it simply be caused by inadvertently moving the mouse pointer on the trackpad? Just a thought. Harry On Apr 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kerri wrote: > Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line. > On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > >> I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying >> "Apple submenu" every time I move the cursor around or type individual >> characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and >> then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or >> cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit >> control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the cursor >> or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get this in >> TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place where I >> would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in the past; >> has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to keep saying >> "Apple submenu" I don't have any menus forced open or any of that. >> >> Thanks for any ideas or help. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Web design software
Hello, Rapidweaver is very accessible. Thanks. Harry On Apr 15, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Krysti wrote: > Hey what's a good web design software that's compatible with VoiceOver thanks > for any advice you give me Krysti > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Reading List
Thank you; I will give this a try. Harry On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:07 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > THere is a button in the bookmarks bar, you might need to enable it in > preferences first. Also your reading list should be synchronized between all > iCloud systems except those running Lion. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using the Mac for doing legal work
Hello, If I may ask, how are you doing your work at present? Pages will be important, together with creating relevant templates for drafts, motions, billable hours perhaps, etc. Numbers would be useful for basic tracking of financial information, although you would probably really want to use an account tool or software. Unfortunately I am unable to recommend one, as I am wondering about that myself. As far as legal research, a solid understanding of VoiceOver skills, including an ability to comfortably move about the Internet and access databases such as Weslaw are important. Although many things may be located using Google, websites with databases and resources specific to certain fields are always the best source for finding specific and detailed information. You should be comfortable accessing PDF files, also. Although many PDF files are somewhat readable and many are not readable at all either because they are hand written text or a scanned image, there are some ways to approach these issues. First, PDF files open in an application called Preview. I recommend you set a short cut key for the NewTextEditWindowContainingSelection command, which does the following: After selecting all of the text with command A, press the short cut key you have created, and the text in Preview or any other application will be copied over to TextEdit. You will then be able to review all formatting and easily move about the text. The problem with Preview is that you can only really read by line, and that isn't even always the most reliable, so I regularly use this command to read PDF files. If the PDF file is a scanned image, you will need OCR (optical character recognition) software to access it. Many people use AbbyyFineReader, but I don't know if this works for PDF files, and I have never used it. There is also a program called iSky PDF Converter, but again I have not had much experience with that tool. These are just a few suggestions. To prepare yourself, I would practice all of these skills to get yourself ready for legal work. You will most likely be writing many drafts and things in your law school career, and this will give you excellent practice. Anne Robertson offers an excellent Pages course covering topics such as basic formatting, how to write a business letter, design a template, and other basic and more advanced word processing concepts that would be particularly useful to someone doing legal work or any other kind of work involving heavy use of word processing tools. You will be fine; it is a matter of practicing, and practicing, and then practicing some more. You won't learn it over night, but you will look up one day and realize you have been doing things with ease you never imagined you would be able to. Best of luck, and please write back if any of us can be of any further help. Harry On Apr 11, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm a first-year law student and intend to work as an associate in a > law firm after completing my education. > I'm not very proficient in the use of computers; I only know the basics. > Which applications will I have to use more frequently for doing my work? > What should I do to prepare myself for being able to do legal > research, drafting, etc effectively on my Mac? > > Your views will be really appreciated. > > Cheers, > Rahul > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Accessibility of iWork
Hello, The main limitation with TextEdit is that it does not support the use of headers and footers (for example for use with resumes, cover letters, academic papers, memos, etc). TextEdit also does not allow for the use of templates as far as I know, so you could not create your own template or use an existing template. TextEdit does allow you to observe all of the visual formatting such as bold, underlining, etc, where as VoiceOver does not announce these features in Pages. I regularly use both applications so as to take advantage of all features. Regards, Harry On Apr 11, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: > Hi Michael, > > I know this is a foolish question, but what is the difference between > Text Edit and Pages? > > > > On 11/04/2013, Michael Babcock wrote: >> Good afternoon; >> I work used to be a $70 product, however I do stand to be corrected, but I >> believe you can purchase both of the referenced applications below, for $40. >> On the App Store, each product in the iWork suite is $19.99 I believe. From >> what I remember, numbers was a very accessible, and that was before the most >> recent update of which I've heard they have added some more accessibility >> features it has been about two years since I last utilize numbers, and as I >> previously stated, it was accessible at that time, but I have heard that >> they have recently added some new accessibility features. I think Mike, over >> at the how-to be blind podcast, did something on numbers! But I don't >> remember right. >> In addition, pages can be used, but you won't be able to edit your documents >> As well as you could Forsaith in Microsoft Word. But, in my opinion the >> recent versions of Microsoft Word, 2007, 2010, and most recently 2013, also >> have their own accessibility issues in and alone. >> Anyways, hope this helps a little bit. >> Michael >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 11, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Rahul Bajaj >> wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> This may have been discussed before, but I want to know if iWork is >>> completely accessible with VoiceOver on the Mac or not. >>> Does it work well on the iPhone as well? >>> The 2 main applications that I'll be using are Pages and Numbers. >>> So, do they work well with VoiceOver? >>> It's actually pretty expensive, so I want to know if it would be worth >>> spending so much on it. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Rahul >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Reading List
Hello, Everyone, I have a friend who is interested in using Reading List, but it's not something I have ever used or have a need for it. I know you can add pages to the reading list with CMD+shift+D, but what is the quickest and easiest way to access the reading list pages? Thanks, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
PDF Converter
Hello, everyone, I wanted to let you all know that I found a PDF converter called iSky PDF Converter for Mac. I downloaded the free trial and it is accessible. They have a paid version that supposedly had OCR and recognizes up to seventeen separate languages. The free and paid versions convert into Word, TXT, HTML, Excel, etc. and supposed preserve all of the original formatting. When I converted a PDF file containing a table, though, and looked at the errors-warnings contained, it said that cells that extended off the Page were resized to all the same size and that a couple of fonts were not supported. I wondered if anyone has used this product (either free or paid) and if so, what are your thoughts? Do you like it? Hate it? Does it actually work as advertised? It occurred to me that translators and others working with PDF files have to work with PDF files and need them editable, and these often include scanned images that need OCR technology. It got me to wondering what the problem is with such converters for the blind and why they may not work for our needs as well. Thanks, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: First post
David, Welcome to the list. Do you mean you would like to use the computer by using the mouse rather than VO-specific command short cuts? Depending on your vision level, the low vision settings may be of use. I am totally blind so I'm not familiar with any settings for increasing the font, etc. Thanks, Harry On Apr 5, 2013, at 5:13 PM, David Delmonte wrote: > Hi all, I am David DelMonte . This is my first post here. I am an older > technologist Who has recently developed low vision. Thank you for letting me > join your group. So once again I am a newbie. > > What steps should I take to get my computer to where I can use it perhaps > without a keyboard. > > And of course, any other advice would be very welcome. > > I am especially interested other than the basics in being able to use Xcode. > > Perhaps somehow I could be of help to you in someway. > > David > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Inserting Scanned Signature
Hello, Everyone, I need to insert my scanned signature into a Pages document. I scan the signature using Image Capture, but I must have some setting incorrect, because the person looking at the result says that the image still needs to be cropped because it shows the entire page and my signature is barely visible. Note that I set the width to two inches, just an approximation, and the height was adjusted to automatically 2.66 inches, or something close to that. The "Constrain Proportions" box is checked. For scanning, it was set to U.S. Letter. I don't recall any other settings in particular. Thanks, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Spell Check Just Stops Working in Pages
is there a difference between CMD semicolon and CMD shift semicolon for spell checking documents? I have never been clear on the difference. Regards, Harry On Mar 27, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Kerri wrote: > Hello, I too experience this in pages but also in Mail as well. > On 2013-03-27, at 12:55 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: > >> Yet another unbelievably frustrating problem with Voiceover and PAges. >> This happens all the time, as spell check just stops working. When it >> works properly I can go trhough a document click VO shift m, drop down >> to spelling and go through my document and spell check will pull up >> the words I have mispelled and offer suggestions for the misspelled >> words. Then what happens when it doesn't work, like now, is I do the >> same exact thing, and spell check doesn't offer any word corrections, >> and will not move through the document from word to word that might be >> mispelled. It just stops working, which is so amazingly frustrating >> when I am on deadline for an article. Anyone have any ideas as to why >> this happens or a way around it? I am a pretty good speller, but type >> pretty fast and sometimes the keyboard doesn't register a letter, and >> I can't turn my work in with misspellings. Would be nice if Apple >> Accessibility actually finally got around to making some voiceover >> upgrades in mountain lion, as it has been close to a year with zero >> improvements or updates. Thanks >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: emulating control click
Yuma, I have found bringing the mouse with VO-CMD+F5 and then holding down the control key while clicking the track pad works well. Thanks, Harry On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:46 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > Yep, i did think ctrl option shift m does that. I'll try with the mouse click > on the trackpad itself. > > Best regarrds, > > Yuma > > > > > > > > > "Light has no value without darkness" > Mob: +61 (0)410732547 > Skype: Shainobi1 > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 > > This message is protected by article 4-210 of a certain book of laws but you > don't have to worry about privacy issues if you are the intended recipient. > However, if any freakish circumstance such as ip sniffing, honey pot open > relay servers or an honest mistake caused a transmission error, please advise > the sender and throw your laptop into a bubble bath to avoid all illicit data > retention. > > On 26/03/2013, at 7:16 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Yuma, >> >> What do you mean by emulating a Control-Click? You can do a Control-Click by >> bringing the mouse to where you want to do this and holding down the Control >> key while clicking with trackpad or mouse. Also, VO-Shift-m should do the >> same thing but doesn't always work. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> On 26 Mar 2013, at 09:42, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm digging into file maker pro for my information systems course, and >>> wanted to know if anyone here can emulate a control mouse click? >>> >>> It seems fairly straight forward, but it's not. >>> >>> Any help greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Yuma >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Light has no value without darkness" >>> Mob: +61 (0)410732547 >>> Skype: Shainobi1 >>> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 >>> >>> This message is protected by article 4-210 of a certain book of laws but >>> you don't have to worry about privacy issues if you are the intended >>> recipient. However, if any freakish circumstance such as ip sniffing, honey >>> pot open relay servers or an honest mistake caused a transmission error, >>> please advise the sender and throw your laptop into a bubble bath to avoid >>> all illicit data retention. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Getting Started.
Hello, The one feature I have often seen in Windows clients and is not present in Mail, although I dearly wish it were ,is the ability to schedule a message to send later. This is useful if you are up at eight at night, three in the morning, etc. and want to have an e-mail schedule to send at 8:30 a.m., or have an e-mail send to someone when you know they will be in their office and likely to see it, etc. Thanks, Harry On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:54 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Hi Anita > Personally I think there about the same. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 25, 2013, at 9:23 PM, anita wrote: > >> Hi, >> Is Mail better than Windows mail clients I.E., OE? >> Anita >> - Original Message - >> From: Eugenia Firth >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:11 PM >> Subject: Re: Getting Started. >> >> Hi there >> Basically, you should be okay now. The only thing you need now is to get >> your end email:. I found it to be a pretty easy process. >> You might try this. Press command and thespacebar.You should hear voiceover >> say spotlight. Type in mail. Press enter. You will probably get the message >> about setting it up. I can't remember exactly what from there but I think >> you can follow the prompts. If you get into trouble type command q to quit >> in any Macintosh program. >> Regards, >> Gigi >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:45 PM, anita wrote: >> >>> Hi List, >>> After spending a considerable amount of time on the phone with Apple's >>> outstanding accessibility department, my MacBook Pro has finally been >>> registered. Not sure what the next step would be: perhaps setting up e-mail >>> accounts and my browser? Is there anything else that needs to be changed >>> in Accessibility Settings, to make VO read better, or anything that I need >>> to disable? >>> Thanks, >>> Anita >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Transfering Files.
Hello, An SD card or a USB drive, or external drive -- any of these are without doubt the easiest way. Since e-mail is usually either through Pop3 or, more common these days by Imap, the e-mails are carried over in most cases. I had all of my documents, etc. backed up to a thumb drive (also called a USB drive) and SD card, so all I had to do was copy them over, and it was really very easy. The msot difficult part way installing VMWare Fusion to run Windows and the programs associated with the Windows side, which you probably won't have to worry about. Thanks, Harry On Mar 26, 2013, at 1:51 PM, anita wrote: > Hi List, > How do I transfer content from Windows computers to my MacBook Pro? Spoke > with the accessibility department of Apple this morning, but didn't > understand how its done. > Thanks, > Anita > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Language Options and Questions..
Anita, You're welcome. We should probably keep the conversation in English since we're on an English language mailing list, but if you would either like to practice your spanish or want help registering your computer, please feel free to send me an e-mail. Good luck with getting it registered. Mucha suerte. Harry On Mar 25, 2013, at 11:48 AM, anita wrote: > Hola, > Gracias por tus palabras! Todabia, estoy tratando a registar mi MacBook > Pro. This seems so different than the Windows invorment. > - Original Message ----- > From: Harry Hogue > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 1:37 PM > Subject: Re: Language Options and Questions.. > > Anita, > > I speak Spanish as well; sorry I neglected to answer the other part of your > question. Press CMD+VO+let and right arrows to move between the different > speech options such as Voice, Speech Rate, Volume, etc. When you get to > Voice, Press CMD+VO+down arrow, and depending on what voices you have > installed you can switch to any available. I personally prefer Paulina, but > you may rather use Javier, or one of the voices from Spain. > > Espero que te sirva! Hope this helps! > > Harry > On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:27 AM, "anita" wrote: > >> I speak Spanish. How many ways are there for accessing rotor? Depending what >> you are doing, IE. writing options change, as opposed to having a rotor for >> languages, right? Hope this made sense. >> Anita >> - Original Message - >> From: Harry Hogue >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 11:28 PM >> Subject: Re: Language Options and Questions.. >> >> Anita, >> >> To change language options, go into System Preferences by pressing VO-M, >> VO-down arrow on Apple, and VO-down arrow until you hear "System >> Preferences." Once in System Preferences, tab over until you hear "Language >> and Text." Within this area, you can change the system language, which will >> change all of the prompts used by VoiceOver. What language od you speak >> besides English? Just so you know, you can also download many foreign >> language voices for VoiceOver within VoieOver preferences (VO-F8). I can >> give you suggestiosn for that if you need them, but changing your system >> langauge als oinstalls voices for the language selected. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Harry >> >> On Mar 24, 2013, at 8:28 PM, anita wrote: >> >>> Hi List, >>> To get in to Language Settings, do I press VO+f8? If someone could give >>> me the steps for completing this task, it'dbe appreciated greatly! Correct >>> me if I'm wrong, but all prompts will be spoken in the chosen language? Is >>> this helpful for learning spoken foreign languages? Is there a Rotor option >>> for languages, like on the iPhone 4S, and if so, how is it activated? >>> Thanks, >>> Anita >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > > -- > You received this
Re: BestBuy Geek Squad.
Anita, They will need your serial number, which you can find under the Apple menu, and going to About this Mac. If you VO-Right arrow once until you hear VoiceOver say "Version X" where "X" is your Version number, and VO-space twice, you will then hear your serial number. You then have a couple of options. YOu can either interact with the text and VO-shift-right arrow to move character-by-character to read your serial number, or, the quicker way I found when I am on the phone with them and they're asking for it is to turn on Quick Nav with left and right arrows held down to gether, change the roter to characters with either right or left arrow and up arrow together (this jsut cycles forward or back), until you ehar characters. Then, to move by characters, press up and down arrows. It all takes much longer to explain that it does to do, which is true of msot accessibility approaches. Thanks, Harry On Mar 25, 2013, at 10:43 AM, anita wrote: > AppleCare is like the waranty for calling in to tech support, right? Or is > there a similar service to this, that has this tech support option? When > calling, do they need any info/numbers from my computer, to pull my info up? > Anita > - Original Message - From: "Eugenia Firth" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 11:56 AM > Subject: Re: BestBuy Geek Squad. > > > Hi there > Besides if you get AppleCare for your Mac, and when I got mine I got an > extension for two years, you can call that 877-204-3930 number if you have a > problem. And they already know about voiceover. In case you don't know that > is an Apple number. It is a number set up for blind and or deaf customers to > call in for trouble. I've called it more than once and I can't say enough > good things about it. > Regards, > Gigi > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 25, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > >> I have also been very pleased with AppleCare which is a non-free option to >> purchase with a new machine. I had a MacBook that kept crashing and after >> walking through all kinds of diagnostics with them over the phone they >> fedexed me a box to ship it to them and had it back in roughly 48 hours with >> a new motherboard installed. I've never used GeekSquad but with AppleCare I >> didn't need to. BTW, that repaired laptop is still going strong six years >> later. >> >> CB >> >> On 3/25/13 11:25 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>> Hi there, >>> You would be far better taking advantage of the support technical and >>> otherwise in person by apple if there is a store near you. >>> As often as you desire, or $99 you can work one on one with someone. A >>> wonderful option since it both supports the commitment Apple makes, and >>> keeps those in their stores aware of VO. >>> Just an idea. >>> Karen >>> >>> On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, anita wrote: >>> Hi List, I have access to Best Buy's Geek Squad tech support line that's open 24/7. Not sure if anyone else uses this option, and if so, are technicians as knowledgable as this list? Would I be better off not going through their tech support, if they don't have sufficient training in VO? Thanks, Anita -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.
Re: Language Options and Questions..
Anita, I speak Spanish as well; sorry I neglected to answer the other part of your question. Press CMD+VO+let and right arrows to move between the different speech options such as Voice, Speech Rate, Volume, etc. When you get to Voice, Press CMD+VO+down arrow, and depending on what voices you have installed you can switch to any available. I personally prefer Paulina, but you may rather use Javier, or one of the voices from Spain. Espero que te sirva! Hope this helps! Harry On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:27 AM, "anita" wrote: > I speak Spanish. How many ways are there for accessing rotor? Depending what > you are doing, IE. writing options change, as opposed to having a rotor for > languages, right? Hope this made sense. > Anita > - Original Message - > From: Harry Hogue > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 11:28 PM > Subject: Re: Language Options and Questions.. > > Anita, > > To change language options, go into System Preferences by pressing VO-M, > VO-down arrow on Apple, and VO-down arrow until you hear "System > Preferences." Once in System Preferences, tab over until you hear "Language > and Text." Within this area, you can change the system language, which will > change all of the prompts used by VoiceOver. What language od you speak > besides English? Just so you know, you can also download many foreign > language voices for VoiceOver within VoieOver preferences (VO-F8). I can > give you suggestiosn for that if you need them, but changing your system > langauge als oinstalls voices for the language selected. > > Thanks, > > Harry > > On Mar 24, 2013, at 8:28 PM, anita wrote: > >> Hi List, >> To get in to Language Settings, do I press VO+f8? If someone could give >> me the steps for completing this task, it'dbe appreciated greatly! Correct >> me if I'm wrong, but all prompts will be spoken in the chosen language? Is >> this helpful for learning spoken foreign languages? Is there a Rotor option >> for languages, like on the iPhone 4S, and if so, how is it activated? >> Thanks, >> Anita >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Language Options and Questions..
Anita, To change language options, go into System Preferences by pressing VO-M, VO-down arrow on Apple, and VO-down arrow until you hear "System Preferences." Once in System Preferences, tab over until you hear "Language and Text." Within this area, you can change the system language, which will change all of the prompts used by VoiceOver. What language od you speak besides English? Just so you know, you can also download many foreign language voices for VoiceOver within VoieOver preferences (VO-F8). I can give you suggestiosn for that if you need them, but changing your system langauge als oinstalls voices for the language selected. Thanks, Harry On Mar 24, 2013, at 8:28 PM, anita wrote: > Hi List, > To get in to Language Settings, do I press VO+f8? If someone could give > me the steps for completing this task, it'dbe appreciated greatly! Correct me > if I'm wrong, but all prompts will be spoken in the chosen language? Is this > helpful for learning spoken foreign languages? Is there a Rotor option for > languages, like on the iPhone 4S, and if so, how is it activated? > Thanks, > Anita > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: a little trick i found on my new mac
Hello, yes, it is common to need to "move" files/folders after copying them rather than cutting them. You are still able to cut text and paste it where ever it may be needed. I still don't understand the need to move instead of cutting and pasting, and it accomplishes the same thing, but it is confusing for those coming from a Windows environment. Harry On Mar 19, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Michael Marshall wrote: > hello listers, > i found a little trick in regards to cutting and pasting files in ML. > a little background, i had a folder on an external hard drive witch i wanted > to cut and move to a new location but the cut option was dimmed. > i found a way, i hit command c to copy then, after finding the place where i > wanted the folder moved i hit command option and v and presto! it cut the > folder instead of copping. > i just thought i would let the list know about this in cace someone was > having trubbel. > > kind regards > > Michael > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Accessibility of Facebook with voiceover
Hello, Personally, I find Facebook very accessible using VoiceOver, particularly the chat feature, as well as making posts and commenting on others' posts. Hope this helps, Harry On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:32 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: > Dear Listers, > I know this topic has been widely discussed on the list, and I have always > been following it with interest and with dismay. Many of my friends all over > the world in other than English speaking countries have been urging me to > contact and follow them on facebook. I know that facebook website have > largely been ignoring our accessibility needs. I'd love to hear - if it is > too much on the list than off list - from those of you who would have a few > moments to tell me what your experience currently is, and to offer some > advice on which platform it would be best to manage facebook, with voiceover > either on the mac or iOS, and whether there may be special applications that > might facilitate facebook. Or indeed, in desperation, if you have such > experience, whether facebook is more accessible via Windows, and in such a > case, whether NvDA screen reader has anything to offer. I know from the > various posts that a few people on the list have to juggle Windows and mac > platforms in order to accomplish what they need. > > Many thanks > > Andrew > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Bullet points in Pages
Hello, I have made a Pages document containing my resume, and instead of making the bullet points manually, I realized I could select the text to be bulleted and choose to have it be a bulleted list. I chose text bullets, and went on my way, and this all works well. I verified the bullets were there by using New TextEdit Window Containing Selection. Apparently, however, if text wraps to a second line in a bulleted list, the second line of text is positioned under the bullet rather than at the start of the text above, which is what is desirable, most of the time. Should I select something for text indent under the Inspector, or what might I may I be missing? Thanks for any help, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Track changes in pages.
Hello, In my translation courses, my professor loves using this feature, as it permits her to comment on small grammatical changes as well as comment on larger structural changes to entire paragraphs, etc. I find it very difficult to consistently find the changes in any kind of order, and I have no way of knowing whether or not I have found all of them. Unfortunately, there also appears no way to jump to a particular changed section. This is one of the features that I truly wish they would make accessible to VoiceOver, and it would come in so useful. Thanks, and sorry I couldn't be of more help. Harry On Mar 16, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Brandt, > > It's very difficult to track changes in Pages using VoiceOver. You can find > which page a change is on, and you can read what has been changed to what, > but you can't find where on the page it is. > > This sounds weird, but the track changes appear in a separate item on the > page and the visual clue is not visible to VoiceOver. If someone absolutely > has to use this facility, then I really wouldn't recommend the Mac as it will > only lead to disappointment. > > I've never had to do this but I tested it out for someone else, so I'm not > experienced in this field. It would be helpful if someone who's done this > sort of thing before could try it out, too. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 16 Mar 2013, at 18:24, Brandt wrote: > >> Hi there folks, >> >> Someone asked me today, whether voiceover can detect and indicate track >> changes in pages. I unfortunately had to say that I do not know. >> >> If someone on this list however due, please let me know? This is the only >> thing that is preventing somebody from completely switching from Windows. >> >> Thanks so long. >> >> Warm regards, >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> Sent from my macbook pro >> >> Contact me: >> >> Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013 >> >> Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >> >> My ring to Skype: >> California, United States >> +(1)760-5140161 >> Extension 512 >> Cape Town, South Africa >>+(27)213-002317 >> Extension 161 >> Johannesburg, South Africa >> +(27)105-002316 >> Extension 170 >> >> Skype: Brandt.steenkamp007 >> >> SIP: 5500...@spokn.com >> >> Twitter: brandtsteenkamp >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: special mathematical symbols and the rest
Hello, The best way to read detailed formatting like this is to use a Braille display. Failing that, setting punctuation to "All" can also work well, or, failing that, read the section character-by-character. HTH, Harry On Mar 1, 2013, at 2:36 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm still having a lot of trouble reading math symbols properly with voice > over, especially when they are typed in a stream of characters. For instance > the greek capital letter phi reads fine by itself, but not when compounded > with an & symbol and another greek letter after it, with spacing. > > Is there no other granular method of reading out a sentence? > > Best regards, > > Yuma > > > > > > > > "Light has no value without darkness" > Mob: +61 (0)410732547 > Skype: Shainobi1 > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 > > This message is protected by article 4-210 of a certain book of laws but you > don't have to worry about privacy issues if you are the intended recipient. > However, if any freakish circumstance such as ip sniffing, honey pot open > relay servers or an honest mistake caused a transmission error, please advise > the sender and throw your laptop into a bubble bath to avoid all illicit data > retention. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Facebook Chat with VoiceOver
Teresa and Brian, Thanks to everyone who responded telling me how to go about doing this. Brian, where did you go to find your FB username? Teresa, thank you so much for all of your detailed thoughts and help with Facebook Chat using Messages. Kind regards, Harry On Mar 1, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Hey Teresa, Yes, got it all now, just wanted to say thanks again for > all of your help. Now I just have to not let FB messages get in the > way of work HA > > On Feb 27, 5:10 pm, Harry Hogue wrote: >> Hello guys, >> >> Does the Facebook chat feature work with VoiceOver, and if so, how do I go >> about using it? >> >> I would like to chat with my friends through Facebook in real-time. >> Regards, >> Harry > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Facebook Chat with VoiceOver
Hello guys, Does the Facebook chat feature work with VoiceOver, and if so, how do I go about using it? I would like to chat with my friends through Facebook in real-time. Regards, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: key stroke question
Hello, this toggles the multiple selection of items, such as in a list of documents where you want to select multiple items to copy and paste, etc. VO+K enters into the "Keyboard Help" mode, which will give you a brief description of key commands without actually performing the action. I hope this helps. Harry On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Kirsten Edmondson wrote: > Hi, > Please can someone advise me what the below key stroke does? I accidentally > pressed VO plus cmd plus space and a funny noise occurred. What have I done? > What do I need to do to reverse it? > Many thanks. > > Kirsten Edmondson > kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com > 07867978791 > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages Help. Can't edit a document
Brian, When I first began working with Pages, I had this issue, and you're right that it is indescribably frustrating. However, Anne is correct. Bringing the mouse with VO+CMD+F5 and then clicking the mouse with VO+shift+space will fix the problem. I hope it works for you. Harry On Feb 19, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Thanks Ann. Will have to give that a try next time. Quite frustrating > when this happens as you can be on a time crunch to get something > done, and all of the sudden you spend an hour trying to get back to > editing a document. Would actually be nice if Apple would finally get > around to working out some of these issues. Numbers is even worst, but > hey at least they do work most of the time with VO unlike Word. > > On Feb 18, 5:44 pm, Brian Fischler wrote: >> Hey all, this has been bugging me for awhile as it seems like the most >> idiotic thing. Sometimes when I am working with a pages document I >> can't edit it. The document isn't locked, but I can't type or delete >> anything. Sometimes if I tap around on the track pad enough it will >> begin allowing me to edit the document, but other times that doesn't >> work. I can quit the document and reopen pages and I still can't edit >> the document. It just occurred after I tried to do a search for a word >> in the document, and now I can't edit it. I made sure the search box >> was closed. Has anyone else experienced this, and if so does anyone >> know how to solve it? Quite frustrating. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Messages Reaching the List
Ah, thanks for the confirmation. I appreciate it. Harry On Feb 17, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Kerri wrote: > Hello, Harry, your messages are just fine. > On 2013-02-17, at 5:12 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I was just wondering if my messages are reaching the list? I wrote a couple >> of messages over the past couple of days. If no one had answers and/or >> haven't had a moment to reply, I understand. I simply wanted to make sure >> my messages are making it through. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Harry >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Messages Reaching the List
Hello everyone, I was just wondering if my messages are reaching the list? I wrote a couple of messages over the past couple of days. If no one had answers and/or haven't had a moment to reply, I understand. I simply wanted to make sure my messages are making it through. Thanks, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: changing document extensions in text edit
Hello, What you are seeing is the option to save to a .docx format, I think. Interestingly, Pages gives you the option of saving in .doc format, while TextEdit gives you the option to save as .docx, but you cannot save as both in either program, as far as I know. The .doc is the older file extension, and the .docx is the more current file extension, but they are both MS Word formats. Thanks, Harry On Feb 7, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Randy George wrote: > Thank you so much for the information. I am a bit perplexed by this, because > like I said, when I create a new file, I am able to save it as a word > document extension. > > I appreciate the tips though. > Thanks, > Randy > On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > >> Hi there >> Changing an extension is actually very easy, if that's all you want to do. >> You can do that in finder by pressing enter on the filename going to the end >> of the line taking out the current extension, and then changing it. After >> you change it, press enter and then you will be asked if you really want to >> do that press the L right arrow, and then theon the choice you want. >> >> However, if you really want to make a doc file from an RTF file so that word >> is happy with the file, you can't do that from text edit. You would need to >> have Pages to do that. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Randy George wrote: >> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> Can anyone tell me how to change the extension of a file from (for example) >>> a RTF to a .DOC file? I don't want to change the document at all, just >>> resave it as a different format. I see where I can change the file name, >>> but I don't see any way to change the extension. >>> >>> Thanks so much, >>> Randy >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Web site development
Hi, I really like Rapid Weaver, which costs around $60, I think. I find it very accessible, and allows you to create a contact/feedback form, a blog, etc. Thanks, Harry On Feb 13, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Justin Harris wrote: > Hello, > I currently use Joomla for my web site, but am looking in to other ways of > making web sites, and have not had much luck finding accessible programs on > the mac to do this. I am currently testing Sandvox. While I have found it > very easy to edit text and such, I can not move items around on the page, > configure things like contact forms, etc. The inspector does not seem to be > very accessible. From what I have found online, the program used to be more > accessible in Snow Leopard, but something got broke in Lion. I think this > program is worth keeping an eye on, but for now I need something else. > I am looking for a program that will let me make a good web site without > having to know a bunch of html code, but that will let me insert html code > when necessary. Joomla is okay, but I honestly prefer to publish my site from > my desktop. Does anyone have experience with any other program that worked > well? Thanks in advance for your feedback. > Blessings, > Justin Harris > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
GPS Apps
Hello guys, I have downloaded and installed both Navigon and Ariadne GPS for my iPhone 3gs. Does anyone ahve tips for getting started with these tips? From threads I started back in August, I know that Anne suggested setting up Navigon for pedestrian mode with spoken instructions, but I don't know where to find that. Also, if I want to virtually explore an area with Ariadne, what is the best way to go about this? It seems to be possible to see what might be around, but unless I am mistaken, it does not give you landmarks for businesses nearby your chosen address unless you have favorites already listed in the application? I suppose I'm a little bit confused how to have the two applications work together, and help from more experienced users is apreciated. All the best, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Track Changes in Pages
Hello everyone, I know it is no possible to read track changes from someone else in order to tell where they occur in the document, but I am required to submit a document this week containing track changes, in which the professor will then accept my changes and grade the final version of my document. Since this is a translation class, she asks us to use proofreader's marks, which I don't think are very practical. I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions for the best way to go about showing my changes in a why that is least disruptive to the reader and will still allow her to easily see my changes and apply them to the final version using, if possible, the track changes feature? Thanks for any help. harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: This is driving me bananas! Breaking Hotspots
Chris, Just so you know, cmd+opt+F will bring you to the search field in many applications. What I don't understand is the different between cmd+opt+F, cmd+F, and VO+F. I know there are surely differences, but I don't know what they are for the life of me. Thanks. Harry On Feb 7, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > oh, snap! How the heck did you find that out? I'll give that a try! > > Chris Gilland. > Founder of CLG Productions > http://www.clgproductions.com > E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com > Phone: 803-760-7136 > Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 > Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. > - Original Message - > From: Jürgen Fleger > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 8:12 AM > Subject: Re: This is driving me bananas! Breaking Hotspots > > Just to let you know: CMD + Option + f brings you to the search field in > iTunes anyway. > Jürgen > > Am 07.02.2013 um 03:40 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland > : > >> Yes, I did. I'll check just to make absolutely certain, but I'm 99.999% >> sure I did. >> >> Chris Gilland. >> Founder of CLG Productions >> http://www.clgproductions.com >> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com >> Phone: 803-760-7136 >> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 >> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. >> - Original Message - >> From: John Panarese >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:12 PM >> Subject: Re: This is driving me bananas! Breaking Hotspots >> >> Did you check the box for hotspots when you were creating the activity? >> This should save any hotspots you create for that activity. >> >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >> >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> >> >> On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Chris Gilland wrote: >> >>> OK, this is about to drive me mad! In ITunes V11, I've attempted to >>> set an activity in which I include hotspots within that activity. I have >>> focused myself on the search box within the music source. I then hit >>> vo+shift+0 and set the hotspot 0 to jump me to the search box. Well, it >>> works just fine until I either restart Voiceover, or until I quit ITunes, >>> and reopen it. What in the heck could be causing Voiceover to do this. >>> It's obviously not something specific to things glitching as I've tried to >>> set up this hotspot multiple times both on my mac mini as well as on my >>> macbook, and in both cases, it keeps consistently breaking. Truthfully, >>> it's driving me insane! >>> >>> Chris Gilland >>> Founder of CLG Productions >>> http://www.clgproductions.com >>> Phone: 803-760-7136 >>> Toll-free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except >>> weekends and holidays >>> >>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://gro
Re: one more thing
Hello, In that version of OSX, in order to select text on web pages, you need to go to the area where you wish t begin selecting text, then press VO+return. Then, press VO up and down arrows to move by line and VO+right and left arrows to move by word. When you are finished, press VO+return to stop the selection mode, then press CMD+C to copy the select text, then CMD+V to paste it elsewhere. I don't know if other selection type commands work beyond line and word; these are the only ones I ever tried or cared about. All-in-all, I am really glad to find the easier navigation of Mountain Lion. I hope this helps! Harry On Feb 2, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Katie Zodrow wrote: > Hi, I forgot to mention I'm using a Macbook Pro with Snow Leopard. > Katie > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Using VoiceOver with Google Drive
Hello, everyone, I wondered about the best way to use Voiceover with Safari and Google Drive. I heard/read that the best way is with the Google browser and an extension for that browser? I need to collaborate with people on documents and be able to read their edits, add to those documents, etc. I am also working with tables. I am able to read the current file with no problem, though I am never sure how I manage to get it open. When I do, however, I am able to read the additions to the table of information (the file) with no problem. I do not know, however, the best way to go about editing documents and making it the most seamless process for me. if anyone has experience, I would appreciate a response,e and thank you all very much in advance. Harry Hogue -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Filling in tables in the docx format.
Annie, Unfortunately, I know of no way to do this using either Pages or TextEdit. It truly would be wonderful, however. There is a way to extract information from a Word table and read it in TextEdit, but I do not think it retains the original formatting, nor oes it allow you to fill out the table, as it is plane text and simply presented in a simpel format with each column separated by tabs, if I remember correctly. Harry On Jan 24, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi. > I do not hope, that you have got this one twice, I tried sending it > yesterday, but it does not looklike that you have received the mail. > >> It would have been easy, if we could use office for mac for filling in >> tables created in ms office, but I know that we can not do that. >> >> Is there any ways, that we can fill in tables of the docx format retaining >> the originally layout. >> >> Best regards Annie. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Headers in Pages
Hello, I want to edit header information in Pages. The document was a .doc file originally. If I try to read the text with VoiceOver, I am unable, but if I select New TextEdit Window Containing Selection, the text is shown to me. It is from someone's resume they gave me to copy the format. I am wondering why VoiceOver does not read the header text -- maybe because it considers it static text, whatever that is? The rest of the document is perfectly useable, otherwise. Thanks for any help, guys. The text has one line centered, and on the next line it has left justified, and then the e-mail justified to the right on the same line… something like that, anyway. It is from someone who has sight and was looked over by a person at their university, so I know it looks professional. Thanks, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Changing Text Color in a Document
Hi, wow. Do you have a little sight, or you just that patient to play around with it? Thanks a lot, Harry On Jan 24, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > Hey, > > In the colors box, select color wheel and move the slider to 33.5 percent. > That gets rid of the 1. > > I don't know if the copy paragraph styles would work or not. I've never > tried it. > Take care. > > Barry Hadder > bhad...@gmail.com > https://twitter.com/BarryHadder > UnitMaster > Available in the Mac app store. > > > On Jan 24, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: > > Hello, > > It calls it "a shade of dark olive green 1" instead of simply "a shade of > dark olive green," so there may be a slight difference, but this is very > close. > > Do you think saying "copy paragraph style" from the other document would work? > > Harry > On Jan 24, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> In text edit, select the text you want to change. >> From the format menu, select font, then show colors. >> Interact with the toolbar and select color palates. Then select crayons >> from the palates menu. >> Select Honeydew in the table. >> I think that should get what you want. >> >> Barry Hadder >> bhad...@gmail.com >> https://twitter.com/BarryHadder >> UnitMaster >> Available in the Mac app store. >> >> >> On Jan 24, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> Does anyone know how to change the text color in a document? I am doing a >> translation and need to change to ten point, verdonna, a shade of dark olive >> green, with alignment justified. >> >> I know how to do the point size, font, and alignment; what I don't know how >> to do is the text color. This is in TextEdit, but I imagine it's the same >> for Pages. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Harry >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Changing Text Color in a Document
Hello, It calls it "a shade of dark olive green 1" instead of simply "a shade of dark olive green," so there may be a slight difference, but this is very close. Do you think saying "copy paragraph style" from the other document would work? Harry On Jan 24, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > Hi, > > In text edit, select the text you want to change. > From the format menu, select font, then show colors. > Interact with the toolbar and select color palates. Then select crayons from > the palates menu. > Select Honeydew in the table. > I think that should get what you want. > > Barry Hadder > bhad...@gmail.com > https://twitter.com/BarryHadder > UnitMaster > Available in the Mac app store. > > > On Jan 24, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: > > Hello, > > Does anyone know how to change the text color in a document? I am doing a > translation and need to change to ten point, verdonna, a shade of dark olive > green, with alignment justified. > > I know how to do the point size, font, and alignment; what I don't know how > to do is the text color. This is in TextEdit, but I imagine it's the same > for Pages. > > Thanks, > > Harry > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Changin Text Color in a Document
Hello, Does anyone know how to change the text color in a document? I am doing a translation and need to change to ten point, verdonna, a shade of dark olive green, with alignment justified. I know how to do the point size, font, and alignment; what I don't know how to do is the text color. This is in TextEdit, but I imagine it's the same for Pages. Thanks, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Stopping VO from saying, Return, new line.
Matt, It does this for me as well in TextEdit, but I don't know what to change either. Just thought you'd like to know it's not just you. Thanks, Harry On Jan 19, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > Hi. > This usually happens with plane text files in textedit and other similar > applications. > I've written Apple accessibility I think a couple of times about this, but > don't remember what responses I've gotten. Might be high time to write them > again about it, because it really is annoying. > Just thought I'd add my own two cents. > Matthew Campbell. > > > On 2013-01-19, at 11:26 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> I've never seen that happen. Is it with a certain voice? Do you have >> punctuation set to all? >> >> On 1/19/13, Matt Dierckens wrote: >>> Good morning all. >>> I wisht there was a way to make voice over stop saying, return, new line, >>> when reading in say all mode in any text editing application. >>> Heck, even preview will do it. >>> Any suggestions? Or is there nothing I can do about it. >>> . >>> Matt >>> Sent from my mac >>> Twitter: matt692 >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Trackpad Question
Brian, What I find helpful is to change the default "Speak mouse on object after delay:" (it is worded something like that) to zero, so that there is no delay between you touching the track pad and hearing Voiceover speak what you are focused on. I find this most helpful when on the Internet and I wish to route the mouse to the VO curser where I can then physically click in order to activate an element that I cannot get at with VoiceOver, such as reading "More:" on a review (this is most common). As for opening a mail message, if you are using the track pad commander with VoiceOver instead of the regular track pad as a sighted person would use it, I am not exactly sure. If you double-tap it will activate the default action, but that may or may not necessarily give you the desired result. In all honesty, I find the track pad (not the track pad commander) most useful for getting the idea of the visual layout of a particular program (although I often neglect to use this because I frequently forget it's available to me). I also find it helpful, as I said, for accessing things that I cannot otherwise access using VoiceOver, such as activating links that, for whatever reason, require a physical mouse click instead of a simulated one. Thanks, and I hope this helps, Harry On Jan 17, 2013, at 12:52 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Hey all, having had a trackpad for a long time and not making any use > of it, I finally started playing around with it, and it is pretty > impressive for the most part.Will be nice to give my arrow keys a > break every now and then. My question is about using mail. I can > navigate my mail with the trackpad, but opening a piece of mail seems > impossible. I would assume like anything you would just click on the > mail message you want to open, but that doesn't seem to work and > neither did any of the other gestures I tried seemed to work. I would > have to figure there is a way to open a mail message using the > trackpad as there are other programs you can opn from your dock and > finder with trackpad. I have read aliitle something about creating > trackpad commanders which I haven't played around with as it seems to > defeat the purpose of using the keyboard as I read you need to touch > the control button to make use of a modifier key for custom commands > with the track pad. Has any one figured out a great way of just using > the trackpad to open things like mail and the same thing happens in > Newsrack when I want to click on an article to read in safari, I > scroll through my articles but when I get to one I want to read I have > to click return on the keyboard to open the thread in safari. Would > love to hear if anyone came up with some better solutions. Thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pages accessibility
Hello, Paragraph and heading styles are completely doable and accessible. As for headers and footers, you need to route the mouse pointer and click in order to work within that particular area, but it represents no real issue. Tables, unfortunately, are not currently supported, in that you cannot create a table and insert information into it using Voiceover. At the present, Numbers is your best bet for this. I used to think that templates are completely useless. However, I now love them, since they represent pre-designed formatted documents ready for use. Just the other day I used the "Elegant Fax" template coversheet to accompany some faxed material, and all I needed to do was to have my fiancé show me where to affix my signature at the bottom of the cover page. it was simple yet professional. There was no need to create such things from scratch. Thanks, Harry On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Phil Halton wrote: > I know there's beena lot of traffic about the Pages app, and I'll look > through the web archive later. For now, I just want opinions on Pages as an > accessible word processor vs other apps. > > I come from the PC world and am quite familiar and comfortable with Microsoft > Word, but I want to be able to do professional documents on the Mac at some > point. > > Is the learning curve on pages as formidable as I've heard? is it worth the > hassle? How's the accessibility? > > I want to be able at a minimum to do: > Headers and footers > Tables would be nice > Paragraph and heading styles > > What are your thoughts on Mac word processors, and Pages in particular? > thanks > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Programming OSX Applications
Hello, Thank you so much -- this is very helpful, and I will use this. I have been playing around with basic C programming concepts, and running them in Terminal, but it sounds like the debug area would work as well for his purpose (inserting input, etc, is that right)? Thanks, Harry On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > Harry, > > I know that this post is kind of old , but it doesn't look like you > ever got an answer, and I think I can help. > > First of all, you can read the output of your command line program in > the debug console. In the source group, move the vo cursor until you > here it say "debug" and interact with it. Then move vo until you hear > "debug console". > > As far as learning programming goes, it sounds like you have the right > approach. Learn the basic mechanics and program structures such as > loops, functions, pointers, etc. Then start learning about object > oriented programming. There are lots of different oop languages out > there and they all have their own syntax, but the most important thing > to focus on is the concepts of oop. It certainly takes a lot of > practice, but I think that you will find that it is easier than you > think. > You can use interface builder with vo to design an interface, but I > wouldn't recommend you do much with that until you are very > comfortable with oop concepts. > Hope that helped. > > > Harry Hogue wrote: >> Hello, guys, >> >> First, I am completely new to programming, and I've heard that it is best to >> start with learning C programming and then move to Objective C which is what >> is used for OSX and IOS. I have downloaded Xcode 4.5.2, I think it is, and >> was wondering if there are any general suggestions for using it with >> VoiceOver. Since much of the interface is dragging and dropping, my >> instinct says that coding instead would be the more logical, if >> time-consuming choice. In this way, the programmer would have a better idea >> of exactly where on the screen things appear, etc. >> >> Since I am completely new to programming, I would like to get started in a >> way that is helpful. I have looked at C programming tutorials, but when I >> try and test the command line tool template program @HelloWorld,@ I get the >> message, @Build Succeeded@ but nothing else from VoiceOver. Something tells >> me the message appeared and then went away, as it is supposed to, but >> VoiceOver never read it. For purposes of playing with code and testing my >> code, how should I approach this_ is there a certain file(s) I should be >> inputting code into as I read tutorials online, and a certain way to test >> them or a place to test them with VoiceOver so they will be read by >> VoiceOver_ >> >> Again, I am just wanting to play around with the basics, here. it >> fascinates me. I have no plans for creating much of anything -- programming >> takes years and years of practice, and, more importantly, errors and >> learning how to redo code and debugging to get it right. >> >> Thanks for any pointers, guys. >> >> Harry > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: getting to address bar in Safari
Another way you could possibly do it is to press VO-shift-U to hear the address of the current link, then press VO-shift-C to copy the last spoken phrase to the clipboard. This might be slightly quicker than going to "copy link." Harry On Jan 15, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > Once you have focus on a link you can pull up the contextual menu > (VO-shift-M) and then arrow down to "Copy Link". Of course if the link is > 'fake' where it really just fires off a bunch of script which loads a bunch > of stuff then there might not be a link to copy. > > CB > > On 1/15/13 5:05 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: >> What I would like to know is how one can get the full URL of the >> currently selected link without actually opening it. An example of >> this might be a download link to a file; I would be interested in >> copying this direct link in case to pass along in a tweet or email or >> something. So I don't want to open the link first. >> >> Make sense? >> >> On 1/14/13, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: >>> Your welcome. >>> I'm glad to help. >>> >>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Lisette Wesseling >>> wrote: >>> Thanks Chris. You are right. I thought it gave a blank field but the current one is in there. Thanks. Very easy really isn't it? Lisette On 15/01/2013, at 10:23 AM, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: > Hi. > When i go to the address bar with command+l it highlights the current > address. > Then press command c to copy. > Hope that helps. > Chris > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> Hi >> Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can copy >> the website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I can >> navigate to it via the toolbar. >> If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't see >> the old one. >> Thanks. >> >> Lisette >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> > > -- > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth as possible
Interacting, once you get used to it, is actually a wonderful thing. It allows me to quickly skip across frames in web pages and groups of buttons, tables, etc. Harry On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Kerri wrote: > I have to say that this is true when I became a mac user. What I found tough > was that blasted interacting, I still detest it vehemently. But forgetting > windows completely for me, was not a huge help because of the concepts that > are the same across the board. > On 2013-01-14, at 4:51 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and >> sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples >> pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across >> the board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting. Some >> users Won't move on without their creature comforts. How do I read the >> title bar? So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the title of >> a window, even if I have to then explain about the application chooser since >> they are on the same keypress, it makes them feel better having that handy. >> >> I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on which >> one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. >> >> Best, >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the >> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog >> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M wrote: >> >>> The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything you >>> know about windows! The 2 systems are as different as night and day, so >>> open your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your not a knew >>> computer user, the system is new to you. Once you do this, everything will >>> start to make more since. >>> >>> Kliphton Senior >>> (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com >>> (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 >>> (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com >>> (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com >>> http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie >>> >>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:28 AM, David Hole wrote: >>> Hi folks. As far as I know, there are many here in this group who are helping blind people switching from Windows to Mac. Do you have any strategies to help them get fast into the VoiceOver commands, and how they can "distance" them selves from the Windows platform, and learn Mac the best way there is? For example, is the best way to first learn to use VoiceOver with the QuickKeys, or the hard way with so many keys pressed at once some times? What about what to learn first, do you learn them a piece of software (such as Mail or Safari) or how the OS and how VoiceOver interacts with it before going into apps? All comments on this is really welcome. Best regards David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/ma
Re: Web Design on a mac or virtual machine
Brian, sorry I never got back to you about Rapid Weaver. yes, having someone with sight take a look at the page is the best way I know of to make sure it visually pleasing. It may also be possible to use an inspector of some sort, like there exists in Pages, to change the layout via X and Y coordinates, but I don't know anything about that. Thanks, Harry On Dec 30, 2012, at 1:19 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > One other question that popped into my head about Rapid Weaver which > is $60 in the mac store. What do you do when laying out photos and > wanting to make sure that everything fits nicely on the page? Do you > have someone with sight take a look at the preview of the page that ca > see? > > On Dec 29, 12:14 pm, Brian Fischler wrote: >> I have two web sites that are hosted through Go Daddy. I do not know >> html coding and of course the go daddy site templates that were used >> to design the site do not work with voiceover. I am looking to >> redesign from scratch one site and make sure the other one is updated >> regularly. I tried depending on web designers who were donating their >> time, but they always flaked out mid project. I would like to learn >> how to do this on my own, and wanted to see if anyone had some success >> designing and updating their own sites? I will be installing windows 7 >> and creating a virtual machine in the next few weeks, and wanted to >> see if people had more success on the mac side or windows using NDVA >> samobile or windows eyes? The program I have heard that is most >> accessible is rapid weaver,, and I wanted to see if it was better to >> do this on the mac or windows side? Also has anyone had any luck using >> square space or web.com to design a site either with a mac or using a >> VM? Thanks so much. Oh yeah, and what about using wordpress to design >> a website is that possible? My sites are pretty much text based with a >> lot of photos and links to videos. Thanks so much. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: inviting somebody to join the list
I see no problem with making it an open list, unless that opens the list up to robots and the like. Harry On Jan 12, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > I have the very same issue. A friend to join, but, haven't heard back from > the mod. To put it bluntly, how can we expect any new members with this kind > of crazy scheme? Do we want new members or not? IF so, what's the fastest > way to get them on board? > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray > Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! > > On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> Hi folks >> I have a friend who wants to join this list. She tried subscribing herself >> but got an error message saying it was by invite only. I'm sure I just >> joined without somebody inviting me. >> When I tried to go to the website - the link at the bottom of this email - I >> got a 404 error. >> What's going on, and how can my friend join up? Thanks. >> >> Lisette >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype commands
Good afternoon, When you are signed into Skype, press VO-J to jump to the first table, which contains "Skype Home," "Contacts," etc. Simply arrow to "Contacts," for example, then you can press VO-J and it will jump you to your contacts table where you can gain simply arrow up and down through your list of contacts. I would suggest changing the view to list, under the "View" menu. To end a call, press CMD-shift-H. It is also helpful to turn curser tracking off once you are in the chat window area, so you can type a reply to someone while keeping your place in the window. This is particularly useful if you are reading a long message from someone and wish to make reference to specific points and need to refer back to that person's message from time-to-time. Just don't forget to turn your curser tracking back on when you're finished; otherwise, you'll find some odd VoiceOver behavior. To turn curser tracking on and off, press VO-shift-F3. it is a toggle. As far as shortcut key commands, many of these will be found in the menus themselves. Press VO-M, right arrow through the menu options, and down arrow to open and explore a particular menu item. I am not the most familiar with assigning custom shortcuts to commands that do not have a default command, but this is possible. Regards, Harry On Jan 12, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Agent086b wrote: > Hello, Now I have the APP file in my Applications directory the next step. Is > there a list of commands? I have read the help and it refers to clicking on > an end call button etc. Is there shortcut keys to do all the functions? > Thanks again for any help. > Max. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Installing Skype
Once you have done this, if ou see something on your Desktop called "Skype, volume," you can press VO-shift-M on it, and go down to "Eject" and press return. This will then allow you to delete the .dmg file while keeping the Skype.app file in your Applications folder. This is the same process for installing other applications with .dmg files. Hope htis is helpful. Harry On Jan 12, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > You copy the app file into your Applications folder. > cmd-c the app file; cmd-v in Applications. > > -- > Cheryl > > May the words of my mouth > and the meditation of my heart > be acceptable to You, Lord, > my rock and my Redeemer. > (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) > > > > On Jan 12, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Agent086b wrote: > >> Hello all, yesterday I downloaded Skype. I have a DMG file that I placed in >> my Apps folder. When I open that file I then see an APP file. How to I get >> that APP file out of the DMg in to the APP folder? This then will make the >> running of the Skype program a one step process instead of opening the DMG >> then Opening the Skype.APP file. >> Hope this is clear. >> Thanks for any help. >> Max. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Rich Text Editors
Hello, guys, I use an interface with my university called eCollege. Last quarter their text edit area for making posts was accessible enough. This quarter, however, it doesn't work at all. VoiceOver calls it a "Rich text editor with RadeEntryText," and I'm not sure what that means. Searching online reveals that people over at Applevis have experienced some similar issues, apparently, accessing those posting features for that site when the rich text editor was used. the eCollege folks tell me that there is no way to simplify the interface and that the visual editor has to be used. What really sucks is that it works with JAWS on the Windows side of things, no problem. Over all, VoiceOver works much more smoothly with eCollege because it has several frames and I love the way Voiceover lets me choose whether or not I want to read the content of a frame by interacting with it, instead of me having to go into a special frames mode. All in all, I wondered if anyone had come up with a solution to this issue? According to the tech support folks, it isn't even possible for the instructor of the course to change the interface, and since it is perfectly accessible with JAWS, they're less likely to see it as an issue that needs immediate reworking. I am able to paste into the edit area, but I cannot read back any of what I have typed, except for back spacing. If I have a numbered list of items with explanations, the editor thinks I want to start numbering each line, and the only way I fixed it was to go into the Windows side, use JAWS, and edit it out. I appreciate your thoughts. Thanks, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: go to linked item command (was Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac)
Hello, I use this command within skype. It lets me jump to the first table where I press down arrow to get to contacts, then press VO-J again which takes me to the contact list where all I need do is arrow up and down to see the contacts. Much quicker than all the interacting and uninteracting. Regards, Harry On Jan 11, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: > I use it in itunes. > It lets me jump to lcd screen to see status fast. Or in iphone apps view. I > can quickly find filie sharing apps. > > hth, > > Ioana > > Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online > stores. > > On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> I only asked because I've heard of people using the command in iTunes, and >> possibly other apps as well, so did not know when and where it is commonly >> used. >> On Jan 11, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: >> >>> Alex, I think you answered your own question, . I will only use >>> this keystroke in the Mail App. I spend considerable time reading through >>> Mail in Conversation View. Now, I could press the Return Key, invoke a >>> Read All command and then return to the message list. Being able to jump >>> back and forth between the message list and the message text is probably >>> the single keystroke I most use given the volume of mail from the Mac >>> Visionaries and VI Phone lists. The proximity of the space bar and the J >>> key on the braille keyboard is much preferred over its equivalent on the >>> Mac keyboard. >>> >>> Les >>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 1:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> No problem, but why is it so useful? I understand how it works in the mail app, but aside from that I can't see how or when I would want to use it. How do I know where it will go? What item is linked to what? Must I interact with something first? Can there be chains of links? Perhaps if I had a deep understanding of GUI programming for OS10 I would know this stuff, but I don't so I don't, if that makes sense. On Jan 11, 2013, at 12:48 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: > Alex, nice catch! I assigned space with j to the go to linked item > command, and it works from within the messages list. Thank you, it's > easier on my hands to press the braille key combination, and I'll be > using this keystroke all of the time now. > > Les > On Jan 10, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> So, I haven't tested this or followed this thread too closely. I just >> had a look in the commands menus and I think the command you guys want >> is in the navigation menu, called "go to linked item". At least, if you >> press vo-h and go to commands, then navigation, it says that vo-j is >> assigned to this item. >> On Jan 10, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >>> >>> Scott, >>> >>> Please put the answer to this question on list, and I'm sure it will >>> help others as well. Vo J is such a useful command for those of us who >>> like to use the preview pane in mail. >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> Mary Otten >>> motte...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+u
Re: How to add apps to the doc and searching on google with safari?
Hello, There are no dumb questions if you don't ask them. You won't know until you do ask. To add an app to the Dock, press cmd+shift+T when you are focused on the name of the app. As for Google and Safari, make sure you are clicking on the link and not the "result button." I'm not sure what that button does, but as far as I know that does not get you where you want to be. search results will have the name of the page as their title, and it will be a link which you can press VO-space onto access. I hope this is helpful, Harry On Jan 10, 2013, at 9:04 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: > Hey all, > > Okay so the subject line makes it sound like these two things are very > random but they aren't so please read on. > > I downloaded a couple of apps from the app store and want to add them > to the doc -- I have found them in finder so they're there... but how > do I go about doing this? I tried looking it up on google (and this is > where it all ties in) as well but... > > ... is there some sort of trick to this? The reason I ask is because, > whenever I search for something, I get the results with no problem. My > issue is that when I go to select a result, it won't bring me to the > actual page, instead it loads a page with different headings like > "URL" and "5" -- it almost seems like it's just presenting the results > page again but in a way that isn't presented properly. This is using > the latest edition of safari, as I am using a brand new mac mini. > > Sorry if these are dumb questions with obvious answers -- this is my > first mac and I'm still getting used to how it works. Thanks in > advance for any help you can offer! > > -Marc > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Adobe Connect
Hello, is anyone familiar with Adobe Connect, by chance? An instructor in one of my classes is using it for weekly meetings, and I was wondering about its accessibility. Given that it is Adobe, I'm not sure. It allows users to both text chat and voice chat, and also allows the presenter to share his or her screen so that users, such as me, are able to see the screen; the presenter also has the option of showing PowerPoint presentations and the like. I wasn't able to find any direct information about accessibility on the website; only references to problems logging in, and the like. Thanks, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: macvisionaries list
The owner/moderator of the list will see his subscription request and should respond. Apparently it can take quite a long time, but this wasn't the case with me -- it was approved quickly fo me. Harry On Dec 31, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > I'm not sure how to respond. Does anyone know how he could get on this > list? See below. Thanks. > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Gery Gaubert > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:47:45 -0600 > Subject: macvisionaries list > To: mehg...@gmail.com > > I tried to subscribe and got a message that said I had to be invited to > join the macvisionaries list. How do I go about getting invited? > Thanks! > > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from GMail website) > mehg...@gmail.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Looking for Harry Hogue
Chris, I e-mailed you at the address you provided. I notice this address and that one are two different ones, so thought I'd send it here, as well. Please reply off-list at harryhog...@gmail.com. Thanks, Harry On Dec 29, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Chris Gilland wrote: > Hi. > > Please excuse the e-mail, but I need for Harry Hogue (Sorry if I butchered > your last name,…) to e-mail me off list at: > > ch...@clgproductions.com > > I have a few questions for you that would most likely be off topic for the > list. > > I tried to find your personal e-mail address, but apparently you're not in my > contacts as I thought you were initially. > > Thanks, and God bless. > > Chris. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iTunes 11 Search
Hello, if you search for something, when the HTMl area loads, you can then move by header. It may be the way I have my iTunes set up, but I don't think so. I hear, "iPhones Apps," "iPad Apps," "Songs," "Albums," etc. Hope this helps, Harry On Dec 29, 2012, at 1:53 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > When you are in the store, and search, how can you find albums? I just see > songs. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Web Design on a mac or virtual machine
Brian, The one time I tried designing my own site for teaching/providing ESL/editing services, I used Rapid Weaver. I was able to create a blog that had a comments section, and the web host I used had plugins that let me put in polls, etc. I used a pre-designed template for the overall design o my site that worked really well with my theme, and found it very easy t create things like registration pages, member-only areas, and a Paypal link for processing payments. Of course these things took getting used to, and it was very frustrating at times, but overall, looking back, Rapid Weaver made the process incredibly easy. I believe the program is around $50, but I could be wrong about that. I have taken my site off of the paid hosting that allowed my PHP scripts (that I obtained from online sources) to work, so visiting my site wouldn't do any good, I guess. But I was really impressed to see the way that Rapid Weaver let me, as someone new to web design and new to the program, create a website that actually looked professional. You just have a blank area like a word processing window where you can bold, but bullet points, different colors, or anything else you may need to format your text. This then becomes the contents of your page. I hope this helps. Harry On Dec 29, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: > I thought the only way to design a website through text edit was by > using html? I don't know html is designing a site through wordpress > html based or a template with icons you can use to install text, > links, photos, and plug ins on your page? Thanks > > On Dec 29, 12:14 pm, Brian Fischler wrote: >> I have two web sites that are hosted through Go Daddy. I do not know >> html coding and of course the go daddy site templates that were used >> to design the site do not work with voiceover. I am looking to >> redesign from scratch one site and make sure the other one is updated >> regularly. I tried depending on web designers who were donating their >> time, but they always flaked out mid project. I would like to learn >> how to do this on my own, and wanted to see if anyone had some success >> designing and updating their own sites? I will be installing windows 7 >> and creating a virtual machine in the next few weeks, and wanted to >> see if people had more success on the mac side or windows using NDVA >> samobile or windows eyes? The program I have heard that is most >> accessible is rapid weaver,, and I wanted to see if it was better to >> do this on the mac or windows side? Also has anyone had any luck using >> square space or web.com to design a site either with a mac or using a >> VM? Thanks so much. Oh yeah, and what about using wordpress to design >> a website is that possible? My sites are pretty much text based with a >> lot of photos and links to videos. Thanks so much. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: apple script questions.
Hello, You are asking a number of very specific questions with a big of a vague description. This is an advanced topic that folks here may or may not have experience with. I am not familiar with this area myself, but I would suggest reading about Applescript writing, practice writing a few small Applescripts to play with the code structure, and see how the process works. Rather than focusing on the particulars of precisely what you want your script to do, maybe you create it so it generally does what you want it to. Later, when you're more comfortable with scripting, you can work on customizing and perfecting the script. It all comes in steps. I am studying up on C programming right now in preparation for learning more about Objective C, and it is the same kind of process. Foundations have to be built first, which let you go on to think of more and more creative uses for a general skill set. At the end of the day, knowing how to do a specific operation only lets you do that specific operation, but knowledge of general and basic concepts lets you branch out and explore more widely. I hope this helps! I've never even thought of looking into Applescripting, but I wish you all the best with it. Harry On Dec 28, 2012, at 8:07 AM, KJSC radio wrote: > Hi all okay I have a couple of questions… I am thinking of coding my own > apple scripts and I would like to have one of them for example, to tell me > that I went to a next song in this pandora app that I have called Pandabar… > my question for this is, how would I make that script to work correctly and > make it so that no matter what key short cut it's using it would always say > next song or something like that and creating that if statement if voiceover > is running as well, I would like that to have… and also, how to make > voiceover speak that text… I'm sorry if I can't really give a clear > explanation about this but yeah… anyways. my basic question is, how would I > write that script correctly so that it will properly behave when voiceover > is running and is only functional when voiceover is running… and how would I > make that work only when that app or process is actively running? thanks all > and hope to here from you soon. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Spotlight
Hello, I always use the Dock for applications, etc. but I sue spotlight to open .xml files from Bookshare, and to search for specific keywords I ma ybe looking for. Harry On Dec 23, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Agent086b wrote: > Thanks to you both for your feed back. I will try and more to the doc. > Max. > On 24/12/2012, at 8:21 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> I think it's what you like, and neither the dock nor spotlight is better >> than the other for opening apps or folders you use all the time. Spotlight >> is a keystroke, a key or four, then the thing you want is almost always >> first, at least for apps. The dock is a keystroke, a letter or two, then >> enter. So the dock is a bit faster, but only if you've taken the time to add >> what you want to it, which people don't always do. I tend to use the dock >> more, but that's just me. >> On Dec 23, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> If you know exactly what your looking for, and its a file/folder/app you >>> use often, I think the dock is a better way to go than spotlight. I say >>> this because, your dock is customizable. You can just have what you want >>> in there. So, for example, If I want to open garageband, I go to the dock >>> with VO D and press the letter G and press enter. using spotlight, yes, >>> the garageband app would more than likely show up in the results but, I'd >>> probably have to type more than the letter G, and then I would have to >>> actually sort through the results which would probably contain e-mails, >>> files, and web sites I've visited. Now, If I was using a machine that >>> wasn't my own or, I'm looking for a missed placed file or e-mail, I would >>> certainly use spotlight. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Dec 23, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Agent086b wrote: >>> Hello all, I rarely see any mention of Spotlight search even in some very good podcasts. I find Spotlight one of the most useful features since moving to the Mac. I don't go to the dock that often I type the program I wish to run and that I find is much quicker. Just was wondering what others thought. Max. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Programming OSX Applications
Hello, guys, First, I am completely new to programming, and I've heard that it is best to start with learning C programming and then move to Objective C which is what is used for OSX and IOS. I have downloaded Xcode 4.5.2, I think it is, and was wondering if there are any general suggestions for using it with VoiceOver. Since much of the interface is dragging and dropping, my instinct says that coding instead would be the more logical, if time-consuming choice. In this way, the programmer would have a better idea of exactly where on the screen things appear, etc. Since I am completely new to programming, I would like to get started in a way that is helpful. I have looked at C programming tutorials, but when I try and test the command line tool template program @HelloWorld,@ I get the message, @Build Succeeded@ but nothing else from VoiceOver. Something tells me the message appeared and then went away, as it is supposed to, but VoiceOver never read it. For purposes of playing with code and testing my code, how should I approach this_ is there a certain file(s) I should be inputting code into as I read tutorials online, and a certain way to test them or a place to test them with VoiceOver so they will be read by VoiceOver_ Again, I am just wanting to play around with the basics, here. it fascinates me. I have no plans for creating much of anything -- programming takes years and years of practice, and, more importantly, errors and learning how to redo code and debugging to get it right. Thanks for any pointers, guys. Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: subscribing to podcasts in iTunes
Hello, When you click on the name of the podcast, which will be a link, if you find a button called @Actions,@ just before that it will give the price, or will say $0.00 if it is free. This is what you want to VO-Space bar on and it will say, @Are you sure you want to subscribe to…@ and will give the name of the podcast. I hope this helps! Harry On Dec 22, 2012, at 3:06 PM, "Phil Halton" wrote: > I don't know how to do this. Yes, I know, I must be very old. > > Honestly, I can find the podcast I want to subscribe to, but can't figure out > how to do the actual subscribing. > > I selected "podcasts" from the popup menu, then pressed enter on the Podcasts > catalog button, and found my podcast in the html page. It shows a dozen or so > episodes in a table, but there's nothing that says subscribe. > > Any help appreciated. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Off-topic: Accessible all-in-one printer/fax/scanner
I will look into this, Wayne. Thank you very much. if I understand you correctly, then, the cartridges are refillable? Harry On Dec 20, 2012, at 1:42 PM, wayne coles wrote: > Hi yes you can buy compatable cartridges > So the cost is good > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Halton > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:14 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Off-topic: Accessible all-in-one printer/fax/scanner > > How is the Epson on ink? Do you know if the cartridges are the refillable > type? I have an HP5150 deskjet that is old, but great on ink and my local > print shop refills the cartridges which is a huge cost savings and > conveience. > > - Original Message - > From: "wayne coles" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:12 PM > Subject: RE: Off-topic: Accessible all-in-one printer/fax/scanner > > >> Hello here is the one I use it is the Epsom work force and is >> wireless and works well >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Hogue >> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:50 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Off-topic: Accessible all-in-one printer/fax/scanner >> >> Hi guys, >> >> Does anyone know of a printer/fax/scanner all-in-one that is useable >> without >> sight? I am particularly interested in being able to use the fax >> function, >> but I know that many of them have touch screens these days. It would be >> great if it wasn't an ink hog, but that seems harder and harder to come >> by. >> Hooking up to WIFI would also be a big plus. >> >> Thanks, guys. >> >> Harry >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Off-topic: Accessible all-in-one printer/fax/scanner
Hi Wayne, Looking on Amazon, one of the reviews said that you cannot print the moment any of the cartridges run out of ink, even if you're only printing in black. I do not understand why printer manufacturers do this except for profit. I guess maybe that's enough. Does anyone know of a printer/fax/scanner combination that doesn't have this restriction? Printers used to be much simpler in the old days. Thanks, Harry On Dec 19, 2012, at 9:12 PM, "wayne coles" wrote: > Hello here is the one I use it is the Epsom work force and is > wireless and works well > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Hogue > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:50 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Off-topic: Accessible all-in-one printer/fax/scanner > > Hi guys, > > Does anyone know of a printer/fax/scanner all-in-one that is useable without > sight? I am particularly interested in being able to use the fax function, > but I know that many of them have touch screens these days. It would be > great if it wasn't an ink hog, but that seems harder and harder to come by. > Hooking up to WIFI would also be a big plus. > > Thanks, guys. > > Harry > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
