Re: An awesome discovery on the Mac

[Henry D. Hollithron]

Good Day:

in point of fact and for what it’s worth, you could still achieve this 
effect with VO-shift-space in Maverics. In Yosemite, however, there seems to be 
no way to bring up the menu.

Henry

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> On 28 Jun 2015, at 02:15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> This is not necessarily a new feature.  It was available in earlier versions 
> of OS before it was broken in Maverick, if I can remember correctly.  So this 
> is not new, but it looks like it has been repaired thanks to many of us 
> complaining, if I remember well.
>> On 28 Jun 2015, at 06:43, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey its something to look forward to, and the fact that this is about Mail 
>> gives me the impression that mail is a whole lot more usable and kind of, 
>> well not exactly fun but, yes, enjoyable.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 4:09 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Urgent apologies folks, please disregard. Not my fault though; an 
>>> accidental leak of confidential details. See I thought this could be done 
>>> in Yosemite, and so did someone else who shall remain nameless, but after 
>>> double checking we discovered this, in fact, couldn't be done in Yosemite. 
>>> Oh well, the cat is out of its bag now. These things happen with prerelease 
>>> software, so please try not to come down on us for things like this. Thank 
>>> you, and once again urgent apologies folks and please, please, disregard.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
 On 27 Jun 2015, at 22:02, christopher hallsworth  
 wrote:
 
 Hi all
 Discovered something awesome on the Mac tonight. Want to copy an address, 
 write a new email, add a sender to contacts etc? No problem! Here's how to 
 do it:
 
 1. In Mail, open a message or interact with the message content scroll 
 area.
 
 2. Interact with the message headers group.
 
 3. Find the contact of interest using VO-arrow keys, then VO-space to 
 activate. A nice little menu with options such as copy address and add to 
 contacts should appear.
 
 To me, this reminds me a lot like Thunderbird on Windows where you can 
 right click a contact and a similar menu appears.
 
 Let me know your thoughts.
 Regards Chris
 
 
 
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Re: robobraille

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Good Day:

The converter is in a frame following the first heading on the main 
page. If you interact with it, it guides you through the four phases of 
conversion. When the page updates, you may have to refocus VoiceOver, but the 
web interface is certainly useable.

HTH:
Henry

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> On 25 May 2015, at 00:23, Joe Quinn  > wrote:
> 
> anyone know how to use this? when I go to the site and click on convert file, 
> i get no form. all i get is the copyright thing at the end of the web page. 
> thanks! or ,$ it better to use email? 
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Re: managing music library with iTunes Match on

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Good Day:

With iTunes Match enabled, you remove an artist or album as normally 
through iTunes, except that there is an additional checkbox, "Also delete these 
songs from iCloud," which you would check in order to remove the content from 
iTunes Match. As for adding, you need do nothing extra after importing the 
music to iTunes. It will simply appear as available to download on your other 
devices.

HTH:
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On 21 Jun 2014, at 15:17, Phil Halton  wrote:

> I just turned on iTunes match and everything went okay, putting my library in 
> the cloud and making it available on all my comps and devices. Now, I'd like 
> to clean out some albums and add some others. How do I
> 1) remove an artist or album from the library? do I just delete him/her from 
> within iTunes on my computer?
> 2) how do I add additional content? Do I just import an album as usual into 
> iTunes and it goes up to the cloud?
> 
> Thanks
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Re: Reading Documents

[Henry D. Hollithron]

Good Day:

There is Read4Me. I have been having some problems running it on 
Mavericks, but the developer says that he does not have the same issue. Perhaps 
you could try it out and tell us both how things go? Here's the link:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/read4me/id402454684?mt=12

I hope it works for you.

HTH:
Henry

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On 19 May 2014, at 11:06, Tristan  wrote:

> I was told this before, however I do have this app on my iPhone. I was 
> referring to specifically Mac OS X-related applications or workarounds.
>  
> Sorry for not being clear.
>  
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Feliciano G
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 1:04 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Reading Documents
>  
> Voice Dream reader is the perfect app.
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-dream-reader/id496177674?mt=8
>  
> 
> 
>   Regards, Feliciano
>  
> Twitter: @Theblindman12vwww.twitter.com/theblindman12v  
> Sent from the Super-iPhone
> 
> On May 19, 2014, at 10:00 AM, "Tristan"  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I've been told this is possible, but haven't exactly determined how. I have 
> several articles, documents and books in simple document formats (.txt, rtf, 
> etc). Whenever I read these in TextEdit/Pages, every time a grammatical or 
> spelling error is discovered, VO interrupts the reading flow to make that 
> known. Also, every time a new paragraph begins, or there are blank lines, it 
> says "return" or "new line". This is extremely ideal for editing or word 
> processing, but not for reading something without annoying and unnecessary 
> interruptions.
>  
> Is  there an app that would be optimal for reading long texts, such as 
> textbooks or articles? It seems iBooks is still largely inaccessible even 
> with the 10.9.3 update. Alternatively, can I turn these announcements off in 
> the Voice Over Utility?
>  
> Thanks in advance
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Re: problems with trying to reinstall lion

[Henry D. Hollithron]

Good Day:

Did you try looking in the window chooser. Generally, this is how I 
have found the dialog for signing into the App store. Note that if you do find 
the dialog with the window chooser, you may have to use the VO commands to move 
the mouse on to the field for the Apple ID and click before you can actually 
enter the required information. Hopefully, that make some form of sense.

HTH:
Henry

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Le 2 mai 2014 à 03:37, Eric Oyen  a écrit :

> Unfortunately, that didn't work. There was no password dialog of any kind on 
> there and using the cmd+tab or CMD+~ yielded no results. I even had a sighted 
> room mate come in here and take a look. There was no visible password dialog 
> at all. It just sat there displaying the dialog "verifying illegibility with 
> the Appstore...". Mind you, this was in recovery mode.
> I have made sure the internet lan port was connected and functioning properly 
> (it was). I might have to get a complete installation disk and just install 
> fresh from that.
> 
> -eric
> 
> 
> Topic: problems with trying to reinstall lion
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> Date: Apr 29 11:54PM -0600
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> I wonder if it's asking for your password?  Try a Window Chooser to see if 
> any options come available.  You could also try clicking the physical mouse 
> or Trackpad to see if something is sitting waiting for you but VO is not 
> gaining focus.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
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Re: Internet Recovery on MBP 13

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Good Day:

When the installer asks you to sign into the app store, you have to use 
the Window chooser to access the dialog. I seem to remember that I had to click 
the mouse in the edit field for the Apple ID using the VoiceOver commands 
VO-CMD-F5, followed by VO-Shift-Space, both while focused on this edit field. 
Once you sign in, the installation proceeds without further trouble from VO. 
It's been a while since I did this, so I may have mixed up a couple of details, 
but re-installing OS X from the recovery partition is definitely possible with 
VO.

HTH:
Henry

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Le 27 avr. 2014 à 15:31, Tom Moore  a écrit :

> Hi guys,
> A few weeks ago I ran the internet recovery option on my mac and it worked ok 
> up to the point to where I had to sign into the Apple store to download the 
> os.
> When this happened the installer froze up and I could not continue.
> A while back I know someone offered up instructions for getting around this 
> problem but I have lost them.
> In my case I had a usb stick with the installer so I was able to get around 
> this issue but if the recovery partition doesn't have the installer you will 
> have a problem.
> The command for running the installer when you have your mac hooked directly 
> to the network is command r while booting.
> What you do is wait about 2 or 3 minutes and then hit command f5 to start 
> Voice Over.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Daniel C  wrote:
>> 
>> I should've been more specific. When you hit command plus option plus are. 
>> That's what I meant by Internet recovery.
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Re: Text to Audio File Conversion, with Multiple Voices?

[Henry D. Hollithron]

Good Day:

In theory, there is Read4Me, available from the App store. It used to 
work quite well, costs $3.99, and allows one to switch voices easily with tags 
in the text file such as [[ALEX]] or [[DANIEL]]. Unfortunately, at least on my 
computer, it no longer seems to want to load. I believe this to be a function 
of my having OS X Mavericks installed, but I have no proof of this. If the 
developer fixes it, however, this app would, i think, cover your needs. I'll 
see about emailing him about this.

HTH:
Henry
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Le 1 févr. 2014 à 15:35, Alex Hall  a écrit :

> Thanks for the tip. It seems expensive at $40 to $60, and it uses Infovox 
> voices. I'm really hoping for something that uses OS10's built-in speech to 
> keep costs significantly lower.
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> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 1, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Alex,
>> 
>> I think GhostReader from Convenienceware will do exactly what you want. I 
>> haven't used it in a couple of years, but it would appear that it's 
>> compatible with Mavericks. Here's a link to its web page:
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
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Re: Resetting Prams

[Henry D. Hollithron]

Good Day:

If you are referring to the recovery mode that you access by holding 
down command-r as you power on the computer, it is fully accessible with 
VoiceOver. I don’t know about the rest of the list, but I am not experiencing 
the problems you are having, and I did not do a clean install.

HTH:
Henry
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On Jan 7, 2014, at 14:06, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Sorry, I forgot to say. Yes, I tried that a couple weeks a go. A bunch of 
> items were repaired, but it fixed nothing. My next step is to try something I 
> read online and do a repair while in recover mode. I'm reluctant to try that 
> since I can't be sure this mode is accessible, and I seem to recall it is 
> not, but I can't think of much else. So, no one else here is having these 
> problems under mavericks? No delays open ing apps or switching windows? No 
> delays loading emails when pressing enter? No audio stuttering?
> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Henry D. Hollithron  wrote:
> 
>> Good Day:
>> 
>>  Have you tried repairing disk permissions? For whatever reason, it 
>> seems to solve some problems of sluggishness under any version of Mac OS. Of 
>> course, a clean install would also seem to do the trick, but I know you are 
>> reluctant to go that route.
>> 
>> HTH:
>> Henry
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>> last.
>> Sherlock Holmes
>> 
>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:32, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> I thought Time Machine was the problem, so turned it off, but that made no 
>>> difference. I've had Mavericks installed for over a month now, so I thought 
>>> any indexing would have finished. How would I check? Activity Monitor shows 
>>> no unusually resource-hungry processes I can see.
>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Wonder if Spotlight is indexing your drive or maybe a time machine backup 
>>>> running? Have you poked around in Activity Monitor to check CPU load or 
>>>> disk activity levels?
>>>> 
>>>> CB
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/7/14 11:05 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>> Assuming I did it right, nothing changed. It took at least fifteen to 
>>>>> twenty seconds to open an Mp3 file with VLC, and that's normal under 
>>>>> Mavericks. VO stutters, audio sometimes breaks up, Safari can take a few 
>>>>> seconds to respond when I switch to it, and the whole system just feels 
>>>>> sluggish in most cases. Some things are fine, like writing text or 
>>>>> arrowing around tables, but opening apps or windows, or switching 
>>>>> windows, almost makes me wish I were on Windows. I hate to say that, but 
>>>>> weever I boot into Windows I love how the OS does what I tell it to with 
>>>>> no delays, instead of the small to large delays under Mavericks. Even 
>>>>> previous OS10 versions had that bit of lag, sort of like using a Windows 
>>>>> screen reader with a large voice, but worse in some ways. Mavericks seems 
>>>>> to have intensified those problems.
>>>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Interesting. So it's not memory unless you're running something really 
>>>>>> memory hungry like some virtual machines or something. Did the SMC reset 
>>>>>> do anything?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> CB
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1/7/14 12:18 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>>> My Mini came with 2gb, and that was miserable. I had half-formed dreams 
>>>>>>> of switching to a Macbook, but I finally caved about ten months ago and 
>>>>>>> got 8gb from new egg.com. The difference is extraordinary! I never run 
>>>>>>> out now, though, as I said, performance is worse now than under 
>>>>>>> Mountain Lion. That's ironic, as one big feature of Mavericks was the 
>>>>>>> lower memory usage and better performance. Whatever Apple says, when a 
>>>>>>> 2007 Mini running Lion feels way snappier than my 2011 Mini running 
>>>>>>> Mavericks, we have a serious problem.
>>>>>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hope it helps. I usually start having performance issues when I run 
>>>>>>>> out o

Re: Resetting Prams

[Henry D. Hollithron]

Good Day:

Have you tried repairing disk permissions? For whatever reason, it 
seems to solve some problems of sluggishness under any version of Mac OS. Of 
course, a clean install would also seem to do the trick, but I know you are 
reluctant to go that route.

HTH:
Henry
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On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:32, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I thought Time Machine was the problem, so turned it off, but that made no 
> difference. I've had Mavericks installed for over a month now, so I thought 
> any indexing would have finished. How would I check? Activity Monitor shows 
> no unusually resource-hungry processes I can see.
> On Jan 7, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> 
>> Wonder if Spotlight is indexing your drive or maybe a time machine backup 
>> running? Have you poked around in Activity Monitor to check CPU load or disk 
>> activity levels?
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 1/7/14 11:05 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> Assuming I did it right, nothing changed. It took at least fifteen to 
>>> twenty seconds to open an Mp3 file with VLC, and that's normal under 
>>> Mavericks. VO stutters, audio sometimes breaks up, Safari can take a few 
>>> seconds to respond when I switch to it, and the whole system just feels 
>>> sluggish in most cases. Some things are fine, like writing text or arrowing 
>>> around tables, but opening apps or windows, or switching windows, almost 
>>> makes me wish I were on Windows. I hate to say that, but weever I boot into 
>>> Windows I love how the OS does what I tell it to with no delays, instead of 
>>> the small to large delays under Mavericks. Even previous OS10 versions had 
>>> that bit of lag, sort of like using a Windows screen reader with a large 
>>> voice, but worse in some ways. Mavericks seems to have intensified those 
>>> problems.
>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>>> 
 Interesting. So it's not memory unless you're running something really 
 memory hungry like some virtual machines or something. Did the SMC reset 
 do anything?
 
 CB
 
 On 1/7/14 12:18 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
> My Mini came with 2gb, and that was miserable. I had half-formed dreams 
> of switching to a Macbook, but I finally caved about ten months ago and 
> got 8gb from new egg.com. The difference is extraordinary! I never run 
> out now, though, as I said, performance is worse now than under Mountain 
> Lion. That's ironic, as one big feature of Mavericks was the lower memory 
> usage and better performance. Whatever Apple says, when a 2007 Mini 
> running Lion feels way snappier than my 2011 Mini running Mavericks, we 
> have a serious problem.
> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> 
>> Hope it helps. I usually start having performance issues when I run out 
>> of RAM than anything else. Not as big an issue now that I have 8GB but 
>> it was kinda tight when I had 4.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 1/6/14 11:48 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> Thanks, and it's worth a shot. However, I've seen no improvement at all 
>>> after doing the PRAM reset, except that Spoken Items seems to respond 
>>> faster the couple times I've used it. Still, anything to avoid a 
>>> complete re-install of my OS (and, more to the point, all my apps and 
>>> settings) is fine with me.
>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 11:38 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>>> 
 According to Apple you can reset the SMC on a mini by shutting it 
 down, unplugging it from power for 15 seconds, plugging it back in, 
 waiting 5 seconds and powering it back up.
 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3964
 
 CB
 
 On 1/6/14 6:59 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> Thanks. My troubles are more slowness opening mail and apps, and 
> occasional audio stuttering even with Voiceover. I still haven't gone 
> ahead with the huge step of the clean install, but maybe resetting 
> the PRAM will help things. It's worth a shot at least. This SMC reset 
> does not seem as likely to help, and I have a Mini so can't remove 
> the battery or anything.
> On Jan 6, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> 
>> The PRAM reset stuff happens as part of the hardware self-check, 
>> long before any boot loaders and other software is executed. What 
>> are the advantages of resetting the PRAM? PRAM is used to hold a lot 
>> of little details semi-permanently. Things related to which 
>> drive/partition to boot, speaker/sound settings, display settings 
>> and more. If they get mangled somehow your machine can start 
>> behaving badly while it goes on a fruitless search for a drive which 
>> doesn't exist or route sound to nowhere. So doing a resent puts 
>> things back to factory fresh. Exactly 

Re: selecting non contiguous files under Mavricks a different process?

[Henry D. Hollithron]

Good Day:

The VO-command-space keystroke has simply been changed to 
VO-command-return. Other than that, the procedure for selecting non-contiguous 
items is identical to that in Mountain Lion.

HTH:
Henry

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07 нояб. 2013 г., в 8:35, Ray Foret Jr  написал(а):

> Okay,
> 
> It would seem that selecting single or non contiguous files in Mavricks has 
> changed.  No longer can I interact with the table and use VO+up or down to 
> select non contiguously and press Cmd+space to actually select files.  
> Anybody know how to do this and where I might find instructions for doing 
> this?
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
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Re: Maverix and Terminal?

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Good Day:

The terminal works as it always has in Mavericks. You need to make sure 
that you are interacting with the text where the contents of the terminal is, 
but I have no problem reviewing the screen if that condition is met.

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23 окт. 2013 г., в 10:55, Alex Hall  написал(а):

> Hi all,
> Someone reported on Twitter that they can't review the screen in Terminal 
> under Maverix. Can someone try that and confirm or refute the claim? I'm 
> doing my first-ever Time Machine backup and it's taking forever, so I can't 
> install until tomorrow sometime at the earliest. thanks.
> 
> 
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Re: OCR: what does Abbyy offer that Prizmo does not?

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Good Day: 

I am talking about Prismo. Admittedly, as I have stated before, I 
didn't do too much with it, and I only used the Mac app, but when I, for 
instance, tried to recognize a scanned PDF of a book with the two solutions, 
Abby Fine Reader gave a better result. I am considering trying the iPhone 
version of Prismo, but that is my opinion at present.

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On 04.06.2013, at 15:58, Alex Hall  wrote:

> When you say "better", do you mean better than Viewscan or Prizmo? Prizmo on 
> the iPhone is remarkable provided you have good lighting, and a scanner, of 
> course, has perfect lighting. Are there podcasts of these three apps in use? 
> Maybe that would help...
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:55 PM, "Henry D. Hollithron"  
> wrote:
> 
>> Good Day: 
>> 
>>  Frankly, I find Abby Fine Reader to have the better recognition engine, 
>> but, as I said yesterday, that is just my opinion.
>> 
>> HTH:
>> Henry
>> Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the 
>> last.
>> Sherlock Holmes
>> 
>> On 04.06.2013, at 15:53, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> But have you ever used Prizmo? From what I read it is a very nice solution, 
>>> but people keep recommending ViewScan and Abbyy as well. Each is rather 
>>> expensive, so I'd really like to know which is superior before I buy one.
>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have both on my computer. The only thing that causes me trouble, and 
>>>> this just may be me, and I haven't figured out a solution yet, is that 
>>>> when I scanned in something with ViewScan, I don't get immediate feedback. 
>>>> That is, I have to go to Abby Fine reader, call up the file, and see how 
>>>> my skin came out. I can see that if you were doing a book, if one of the 
>>>> pages was wrong or miscarriage and, I might have a problem telling if I 
>>>> had a good scanner not until I called up the main file. What is the 
>>>> solution to that? 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I am also curious to hear more about Abby and Prizmo if anyone has used 
>>>>> both of them. I have a cancan and have been using the software that comes 
>>>>> with it to scan into PDF's and reading in preview. Do Prizmo and ABBY 
>>>>> scan better as sometimes my scans come out only partially which can be a 
>>>>> pain when there is a phone number or account number you need. Thanks for 
>>>>> letting us know.
>>>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> Regarding OCR, what is good about Abby Fine Reader? I was just talking 
>>>>>> to someone on Twitter who strongly recommends Prizmo over all other OCR 
>>>>>> apps for the mac. Docuscan can't handle JPG files or process multiple 
>>>>>> pages as one file, and its OCR is cloud-based. What about Abby though? 
>>>>>> Why would someone use that over Prizmo? I have no stake in any of these 
>>>>>> apps, so I'm not trying to put any of them down, I just want to hear 
>>>>>> from you Abbyy users why you use that app over Prizmo or some other 
>>>>>> solution. Thanks!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Have a great day,
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Re: OCR: what does Abbyy offer that Prizmo does not?

[Henry D. Hollithron]

Good Day: 

Frankly, I find Abby Fine Reader to have the better recognition engine, 
but, as I said yesterday, that is just my opinion.

HTH:
Henry
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On 04.06.2013, at 15:53, Alex Hall  wrote:

> But have you ever used Prizmo? From what I read it is a very nice solution, 
> but people keep recommending ViewScan and Abbyy as well. Each is rather 
> expensive, so I'd really like to know which is superior before I buy one.
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> I have both on my computer. The only thing that causes me trouble, and this 
>> just may be me, and I haven't figured out a solution yet, is that when I 
>> scanned in something with ViewScan, I don't get immediate feedback. That is, 
>> I have to go to Abby Fine reader, call up the file, and see how my skin came 
>> out. I can see that if you were doing a book, if one of the pages was wrong 
>> or miscarriage and, I might have a problem telling if I had a good scanner 
>> not until I called up the main file. What is the solution to that? 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> I am also curious to hear more about Abby and Prizmo if anyone has used 
>>> both of them. I have a cancan and have been using the software that comes 
>>> with it to scan into PDF's and reading in preview. Do Prizmo and ABBY scan 
>>> better as sometimes my scans come out only partially which can be a pain 
>>> when there is a phone number or account number you need. Thanks for letting 
>>> us know.
>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 Regarding OCR, what is good about Abby Fine Reader? I was just talking to 
 someone on Twitter who strongly recommends Prizmo over all other OCR apps 
 for the mac. Docuscan can't handle JPG files or process multiple pages as 
 one file, and its OCR is cloud-based. What about Abby though? Why would 
 someone use that over Prizmo? I have no stake in any of these apps, so I'm 
 not trying to put any of them down, I just want to hear from you Abbyy 
 users why you use that app over Prizmo or some other solution. Thanks!
 
 
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Re: So wait… What should one use for scanning?

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Good Day: 

Frankly, I prefer Abby Fine Reader express and use DocuScan only for 
very casual scanning. Of course, I am somewhat biased, since I study multiple 
languages, and DocuScan only recognizes English, but, in my experience, even in 
English, Abby Fine Reader does best with, for instance, scanned PDFs. I tried 
Prismo on a PDF that I recognized with Abby Fine Reader, and the results, while 
not terrible, were not at the same level. To be fair, I haven't done to much 
with Prismo. As for VuScan, it, from what I understand, provides a unified 
interface for various scanners, but does not actually perform recognition. 
Still, others say it is the easiest program to use for efficiently scanning a 
large number of pages. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about VuScan.

HTH:
Henry
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On 03.06.2013, at 21:17, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I thought Docuscan was the best for scanning. Now, though, I'm hearing about 
> Prizmo, bbyy Fine Reader, VuScan... Which is the best? I don't scan books, 
> but the option to do so in the future would be nice. I know Docuscan syncs 
> your files, but wouldn't Prizmo do that? So which is best, in your opinion? 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
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Re: VO reading entire text document.

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Good Day: 

Have you tried pressing command-shift-w in TextEdit to make sure that 
"wrap to window" is selected. Also, have you interacted with the text? I have 
no trouble reading a .doc file from start to finish.

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On 29 Mar 2013, at 18:28, Danny Noonan  wrote:

> Yes. VO a only reads current page as well. Obviously something to do with 
> text edit. The documents are doc or docx so this may be why. I'll have to do 
> more experimenting but as all my course work is in doc format, not being able 
> to read entire document either from start or from current position is quite a 
> big failing.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Danny:
> 
> On 19/03/2013, at 9:19 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Maybe I missed something here, but did you try VO a? 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm trying to have VO read from position to end of document in both text 
>>> edit and iText pro and am having no luck. I'm interacting with the text and 
>>> can easily do vo a or a 2 finger swipe up in touch pad commander but if I 
>>> try vo b I get a bong and if I do a 2 finger swipe down in touch pad 
>>> commander it reads the current page but I have to restart each new page. I 
>>> can't seem to find a relevant option in the options menu for commanders or 
>>> in vo so wondered if I'm missing something. Is there a ML preference for 
>>> scrolling or something that can help?
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Danny:
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Re: BrailleBlaster

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Good Day: 

Indeed. This program appears to be quite prone to crashing. I realise 
that it is open-source and thus not meant to be perfect, but I don't think it's 
yet ready for stable use. The exception thrown by the program that you copied 
below occurs, I think, when it pops up a dialog stating that "the braille 
facility is not available," whatever that means, and when you indicate that you 
don't want to continue. Even when I did get past that, when I tried to launch 
the tutorial from the help menu, it did open safari, but it also crashed the 
java runtime environment. Perhaps I should send an email to the developers to 
see if they're still planning to work on this. For now, though, I wouldn't use 
it for production use.
As for Louis, it is free, but I've had very little luck getting it to 
translate complicated documents--it keeps giving me blank braille files. It 
does, however, have the virtue of being significantly more stable and might, 
based on comments from other people who have used it successfully, be able to 
translate your document if it's simple enough. Perhaps someone more experienced 
with the program could give you better help in that direction. Here is the web 
page for it, in case you're interested:

http://www.cucat.org/projects/louis

HTH:
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On 21 Feb 2013, at 19:06, Mark Baxter  wrote:

> Okay, and here's what I get when I try and launch it from terminal:
> ror
>   at org.brailleblaster.Main.main(Unknown Source)
> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.swt.SWTError
>   at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:202)
>   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>   at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:190)
>   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306)
>   at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:301)
>   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:247)
>   ... 1 more
> mark-baxters-macbook-pro:~ MBH$ 
> 
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Re: BrailleBlaster

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Good Day: 

For whatever reason, you need to run this program from the terminal. If 
you are comfortable with this, then the command is

java -XstartOnFirstThread -jar 

where  should be the path to the jar. You can simplify 
your life by either being in the directory where the jar can be found when you 
run the command or by creating a .command file with the full path to the jar.

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On 21 Feb 2013, at 17:18, Mark Baxter  wrote:

> Hmm. Okay, I got the zip file, installed Java RunTime, and opened 
> Brailleblaster.jar … and got this:
> The Java JAR file “brailleblaster.jar” could not be launched.
> Not very helpful.
> 
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Re: forwarded messages include *all* headers

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Good Day: 

For headers, the "default" setting will show you, among other standard 
details, the person to whom the message is addressed. It omits all the 
information about exactly which servers were involved in the transmission of 
the message.

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On 3 Dec 2012, at 15:38, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I have all headers shown so I can quickly see to whom a message is addressed 
> if I need to. I just didn't think that this would affect my forwarding, since 
> those headers are not in the message text. If I understand you right, this 
> seems like a very odd choice for Apple to have made.
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Alex,
>> 
>> You can go into Mail prefs and choose the "viewing" tab. There's a drop-down 
>> that will allow you to set which headers show by default. Also, when you 
>> interact with message headers in a message, you can choose whether details 
>> are shown or not, regardless of your default setting.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> 
>> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
>> 
>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I just noticed that when I forward mail, the message includes all headers 
>>> before you get to the actual text. I just want the usual forward stuff, 
>>> like sender, subject, and time, not the receive paths and all that. I don't 
>>> know what I changed to have this happen, and any information would be 
>>> appreciated. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Shutting down Mac

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Good day: 

In the scheduling window, there are two checkboxes. The first one is 
for "startup or wake", and the second is unlabelled. If you check the second 
box and vo-right, you will find a popup button which is set to sleep. If you 
bring up the popup menu, however, "shut down" is one of the options.

HTH:
Henry
On 1 Sep 2012, at 20:33, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I don't believe such a feature exists on the Mac.  At least, not built in.  
> In system preferences/energy saver, under schedule, all you can do is set 
> start/wake up times, and sleep times.
> 
> hth
> 
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> 
> On Sep 1, 2012, at 8:25 PM, Jane  wrote:
> 
>> Is there some way you can tell a Mac to shut down at a particular time, and 
>> have it stick to that time each day  If so, how do you program it in?  Have 
>> a friend who needs this and isn't sure how to do it.
>> 
>> Jane
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Re: Shutting down Mac

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Good Day: 

If you go into System Preferences > Energy Saver and go to near the 
bottom of the window (close to the lock buttons), you will find a button called 
"Schedule…" which, when clicked, opens a dialog allowing one to set a time for 
the Mac to sleep or shut down and start up automatically,which I think is what 
your friend wants.

HTH:
Henry


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> Is there some way you can tell a Mac to shut down at a particular time, and 
> have it stick to that time each day  If so, how do you program it in?  Have a 
> friend who needs this and isn't sure how to do it.
> 
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Re: using terminal?

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Good Day: 

I used Terminal successfully for an entire college semester, since I 
had to remotely run programs on the Computer Science servers through SSH and 
transfer files through SFTP. Two rather obvious things occur to me:

1. Are you interacting with the Shell element, which contains the text of your 
session?

2. Note that you cannot use the arrow keys by themselves to read the screen. 
You must use the VO-arrow keys to read the terminal output, which does indeed 
include previous commands.

Again, I am having no problems with the terminal, and, much to my relief, I 
don't even have to worry about scroll bars.

HTH:
Henry

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> Hi all,
> One thing I can't do is use terminal. I can cd, because vo reads the
> new prompt which is your location, but that's it. For instance, if I
> launch a py script, I get nothing about any errors or anything read
> automatically. Worse, I can't scroll up to see my commands and the
> system's responses. This is one thing windows does well; the shell is
> simple and easy to look through. I am really, really hoping it's just
> a setting or something I don't know about, but right now terminal
> looks pretty unuseable. Any ideas would be wonderful. Thanks.
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Re: working with data detectors?

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Good Day: 

Here is the relevant extract from chapter 7 of the VoiceOver Getting 
Started guide, which is the last option in the VoiceOver help menu. Of course, 
VoiceOver now appears to be more specific about which data has been detected, 
but I think the instructions still apply.

HTH:
Henry

Use data detectors in Mail messages
Mail can detect specific information or data in messages and make it easier for 
you to use the data. For example, Mail can recognize phone numbers and add them 
to Contacts, or recognize a date and time and create an event in Calendar.
In a message you’ve received, move the VoiceOver cursor over a phone number, 
email address, URL, street address, date, or time.
Mail outlines the data as a field with a pop-up menu, and VoiceOver speaks 
“data detector.”
To open a shortcut menu that contains commands for using the data, press 
VO-Shift-M.
For example, if the data detector is the URL of a website, you can choose Open 
URL from the shortcut menu.

On 28 Jul 2012, at 09:51, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hiall,
> I was reading an email to find a guy's phone number. I found it, and vo said 
> "signature detected". I'd love it if the mac could automagically put the 
> contact info into a new ocntact for me, but I don't know how to do it. How 
> would I go about this, or any data detector, like an event or email 
> detection? I am running Mountain Lion if that matters. Thanks.
> 
> 
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Re: using voice with different accent and 10.8 dictation?

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Good Day: 

I have a british voice on my Mac. When I turned on dictation, there was 
a popup menu with the different languages and accents which were available for 
that service. It was set to British English, but I had no difficulty in 
changing it to American English.

HTH:
Henry
On 26 Jul 2012, at 08:37, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I just thought of something. In Mountain Lion, if I use a British or 
> Australian voice (I'm American), will that affect dictation like it does on 
> the iPhone with Siri? I'm a fan of Karen and Lee, but will I be able to use 
> dictation if I tell VO to use one of those voices?
> 
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Re: mail app?

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Good Day: 

The Favorites bar is the item which offers this functionality in the 
Mail app for Lion. I checked, and it has, in order from left to write, InBox, 
Sent and Drafts. As you might expect, you press command-1 to go to the InBox, 
Command 2 to go to the Sent mailbox, and Command-3 to go to the Drafts mailbox. 
There is a way to move a mailbox to the favorites bar, but I don't know it. 
Anyway, if you put a mailbox to the right of the Drafts mailbox, then it can be 
accessed with Command-4. Perhaps someone who actually makes use of the 
favorites bar could give you more information.

HTH:
Henry

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On 29 Apr 2012, at 09:48, Stan wrote:

> Hi 1&All,
> As no one has mentioned them I sure hope, "Mail App" hasn't dropped;
> Command1 "In mailbox"
> Command2 "Out mailbox"
> Command3 "Drafts mailbox"
> Command4 "Sent mailbox"
> Command5 "Trash mailbox"
> Command6 "Junk mailbox"
> as I find these "shortcuts" great for quick switching between boxes.
> 
> Stan ZA
> amista...@gmail.com
> 
> On 29 Apr 2012, at 1:00 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> Ok, vo-j works even better, thanks for the correction. Now, let's hope they 
>> don't break it again as I recall happening in an previous update...
>> On 29 Apr 2012, at 00:29, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
>> 
>>> qQuick commeh
>>> 
>>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online 
>>> stores.
>>> Sent from my phone
>>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Okay, thanks. I'll try vo-j, but I figured out I can just hit enter to 
>>>> read the message, then cmd-w the window when I'm done. Still not too 
>>>> elegant, but better than arrowing all over the place. I think I'll stick 
>>>> to the normal view, since I get a great deal of messages from mailing 
>>>> lists and i would hate to not have things grouped by conversation.
>>>> On 28 Apr 2012, at 22:26, Henry D. Hollithron wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Good Day: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   I've put the answers to your questions, at least as much as I know of 
>>>>> them, in the extract from your original message below. Since I've only 
>>>>> used Mac OS Lion, though, someone else might have additional information. 
>>>>> At any rate, here goes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> HTH:
>>>>> Henry
>>>>> 
>>>>> Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for 
>>>>> the last.
>>>>> Sherlock Homes
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 28 Apr 2012, at 15:32, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. I deleted a message, but vo said nothing and I was jumped to the 
>>>>>> bottom of the mail list. What happened?
>>>>>   Your message was moved to the trash mailbox. I don't know if you have 
>>>>> your messages column sorted from oldest to newest or not, but that might 
>>>>> be why you're moved to the bottom of the message list. If you want to 
>>>>> make sure that you have actually deleted all the messages you didn't want 
>>>>> to keep, you can, of course, look at the trash mailbox. There is a 
>>>>> favorites bar at the top of the window, but I prefer to go to the view 
>>>>> menu and choose the "show mailbox list' option. Both are accessible, but 
>>>>> I don't know how you would go about adding a mailbox to the favorites 
>>>>> bar, which, as I understand, allows you to switch to a mailbox with a 
>>>>> single keystroke. 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2. Why can I not quickly read messages? I tried cmd-j and tab, but 
>>>>>> nothing happened, yet a new message appeared in a conversation as though 
>>>>>> I had just read the oldest one, though I had not. I can hit the "stop 
>>>>>> interacting" keystroke twice, then vo-right a few times and interact, 
>>>>>> but there has to be a better way.
>>>>>   The keystroke to jump to the preview pane is VO-J. Command J, I think, 
>>>>> marks the message as junk, though I'm not quite certain on that point, 
>>>>> since it doesn't show up in the menus to my knowledge.
>>>>>> 3. I hear a 

Re: mail app?

[Henry D. Hollithron]

Good Day: 
> 

I've put the answers to your questions, at least as much as I know of 
them, in the extract from your original message below. Since I've only used Mac 
OS Lion, though, someone else might have additional information. At any rate, 
here goes.

HTH:
Henry

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On 28 Apr 2012, at 15:32, Alex Hall wrote:

> 1. I deleted a message, but vo said nothing and I was jumped to the bottom of 
> the mail list. What happened?
Your message was moved to the trash mailbox. I don't know if you have 
your messages column sorted from oldest to newest or not, but that might be why 
you're moved to the bottom of the message list. If you want to make sure that 
you have actually deleted all the messages you didn't want to keep, you can, of 
course, look at the trash mailbox. There is a favorites bar at the top of the 
window, but I prefer to go to the view menu and choose the "show mailbox list' 
option. Both are accessible, but I don't know how you would go about adding a 
mailbox to the favorites bar, which, as I understand, allows you to switch to a 
mailbox with a single keystroke. 

> 2. Why can I not quickly read messages? I tried cmd-j and tab, but nothing 
> happened, yet a new message appeared in a conversation as though I had just 
> read the oldest one, though I had not. I can hit the "stop interacting" 
> keystroke twice, then vo-right a few times and interact, but there has to be 
> a better way.
The keystroke to jump to the preview pane is VO-J. Command J, I think, 
marks the message as junk, though I'm not quite certain on that point, since it 
doesn't show up in the menus to my knowledge.
> 3. I hear a lot about "classic view". What is it, and should I switch to it? 
> What advantages does the normal view offer over the classic?
The new view introduced into Lion is very similar to the view of 
messages you might get on the GMAIL website, that is, messages with the same 
subject are grouped into conversations, which you can expand. The classic view, 
in contrast, displays all the messages in a larger list, with columns 
containing the information (date, from, subject, etc.) of the message, rather 
like you might see with KeyMail on a BrailleNote. Both views are accessible, so 
most people recommend experimenting with them and seeing which one you prefer. 
The option, as you probably already know, is in the View menu with the name 
"Organize by Conversation".

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Re: got Infovox version 3 and lost all my voices

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Good Day: 

When I did the upgrade, there was a second window available from the 
Window chooser for the voice manager which told me to redeem the activation 
codes. It had found the activation codes for the older InfoVox language packs 
which I had, and I had to activate each one by pressing the "activate" button 
next to each code. For the first activation, it asked me to create an account 
with my name and email address, which could be edited. After that, the process 
became quite simple. Then, it was a simple matter of going to the tools menu 
and selecting "Install all licensed voices". They appear to have done some 
updates on the existing voices.

HTH:
Henry

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On 12 Apr 2012, at 11:32, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Ray,
> 
> You'll need to contact the supplier of Infovox iVox to get that fixed.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 12 Apr 2012, at 17:07, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Did that.  All voices show as being uninstalled and unregistered.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 12, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Ray,
>>> 
>>> I think the new version of Infovox iVox works differently from the previous 
>>> ones. Have a look in your Applications folder for one called Infovox iVox 
>>> Voice Manager.app.
>>> 
>>> This is what you use to enable the voices.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> On 12 Apr 2012, at 16:25, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>> 
 Okay okay.  I downloaded version 3 and installed it.  I now have lost all 
 my Acapela voices and so, I have written to the Origen instroments place 
 where I bought the voices from and asked them for my license keys back.
 
 I thought this was supposed to be a free upgrade.
 
 Part of what makes this a little tricky is the fact that my e-mail address 
 has changed since I did the version 2 voices.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
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Re: shortcut query please.

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Good Day: 

VO-F2 pressed twice quickly works quite well on my MacBook Pro running 
Lion. Being a new Mac user, I'm not sure what shortcuts might have changed, 
but, on my end at least, the window chooser is working fine with the shortcut 
you have below.

HTH:
Henry

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On 31 Mar 2012, at 10:34, Lewis Alexander wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> I'm using snow leopard on my macbook pro but had to do a bit of system admin 
> in lion on  the iMac. here's my query...
> 
> In snow leopard and earlier versions, to bring up a window to access various 
> windows within an application, you would use VO F2 twice quickly., this would 
> give access to a dialogue where you could navigate between window sessions.
> 
> However, in Lion, shis sortcut has changed (bearing in mind I'm not using 
> lion myself)
> 
> please could someone advise of the updated shortcut command for this 
> operation and any other revised shortcuts that voiceover has changed in lion?
> 
> with many thanks.
> 
> lew
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Re: Need to confirm the number of songs in iTunes library post MusicMatch

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Good Day: 

If you change the sources table so that it is focused on music (note 
that this is the default source when opening iTunes), you will find, right 
below the table with all your songs, a text area which tells you how many songs 
you have, the total time it would take to play your library, and the size,in 
gigabytes, of your library.

HTH:
Henry
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On 13 Mar 2012, at 13:46, Kevin Gibbs wrote:

> Guys,
> I'm sure  this has been  covered.  But  I have activated Music
> Match.  I just went to test how many tunes were in my iTunes library.
> My iPhone 4 says there are 2400 or so.  There should be over 3K.  I
> know certain tunes couldn't be matched.  I went to my iTunes library
> on my computer.  while I can see the number of genres, artists and
> albums, I can't get a number of songs.  How does one get that
> information in iTunes on the Mac?  I want to be able to confirm the
> number of tunes my computer says I have with the number my phone says
> I have.  I also know that my available space on my iPhone increased
> dramatically post Music Match.  thanks for any help.
> 
> Kevin
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Tables in Word Documents on the Mac

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Good Day: 

Firstly, this being my first post to this list, I should probably give 
a brief introduction. As you can tell from the name field, my name is Henry 
Hollithron. I am a college student, and las October, I acquired a MacBook Pro. 
As you might expect, Mac OS has become my primary operating system, and though 
I still have my windows computers, I prefer, if possible, to accomplish what I 
wish on, what to me, is a much more intuitive system. In any case, I have been 
wondering for quite some time whether there is any word processor currently 
available which can handle tables. As I said earlier, I am a college student, 
and I some times receive documents with tables. My experience thus far has been 
that neither Nisus Writer Pro nor Pages even acknowledges the tables. As for 
Text Edit, I can at least get the content from the tables, but if I have to 
make some modifications to the file in question and send it back, the table 
formatting disappears, which is a problem. From checking the list archives, I 
have gotten the impression that there is not currently a way to get tables to 
work. Am I correct? I would be glad to be told that I am wrong, since I'd 
rather not have to add working with tables to the very small list of tasks for 
which I still need to use Windows. Any help is much appreciated.

Thank You:
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