Re: question to ask all of all of you

2013-05-14 Thread Israel Antonio
Becky,

I know of two ways in which you can save files in other formats so others can 
read it.

when ready to save, you can press Command+Shift+s and you can arrow through to 
save in Word format.

You can also call up menu bar in Pages, navigate to "file" then arrow down to 
"Export."  When you choose Export you'll be given 5 choices of formats in which 
you save your file.  PDF, RTF, Word, Plain Text, and EPub.  Select which one 
you want then select "next" I believe is the option which takes you to another 
page to save in whichever name you wish to give your file.

  I believe that is correct.  If not, someone on this list can correct me if 
I've given inaccurate or incomplete instructions.  I hope that helps.

Israel

On May 14, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Rebecca Sabo wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have a couple of questions  to ask all of you?  Where would I fine a list 
> of assessable apps for the mackcomputer?  Also how do I save a document in a 
> different formate so someone else can read my document if they do not have 
> pages?
> Becky Sabo 
> 
> On May 14, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ricardo
>> Thanks it works. That was super easy. I never thought to do that, I have no 
>> idea why. Now it shows as delivered.
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> On May 14, 2013, at 9:00 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> you just press enter when your done composing your message.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On May 14, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Greetings folks
>>>> I have this message already, and I have the phone number to which I want 
>>>> to send it. How can I tell the Mac to send the thing? I can't even find 
>>>> the option on the menu anywhere for sending messages.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Gigi
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Voiceover and Training Peaks

2013-04-08 Thread Israel Antonio
Hi Listers,

I was wondering if any users of Voiceovers have successfully used the Training 
Peaks web site to log your workouts, meals, and receive coaching?

A friend who is a pro triathlete/coach suggested I set up a free account, which 
I did.  Prior to registering, I played with the site activating various links 
to plans, athletes, coaches, articles, blog, and support.  all seemed 
accessible with VO.  I had difficulty signing up but that was more on my end 
and not VO inaccessibility.  I received e-mail confirmation and followed 
instructions to find my friend's group plans, and seemed to be okay until I 
went back to log into the site later on which is when I discovered that upon 
logging in, I am not able to access my profile or training plans.  Instead I'm 
taken to a site where VO tells me that the html is empty.  The only other 
information which VO reads is to tell me the version of Training Peaks.

I went through the links to reach someone at TP support and managed to fill out 
all required information until the very last step which was a visual captcha.  
there was an option for an audio captcha, but each time I entered what I heard, 
I was told what I entered was incorrect.  I did notice a separate form, which I 
filled out, if one is having trouble with the captchas to inform TP staff.  I 
have not heard back.  

I did find a Training Peaks mobile site, but it actually seemed more 
complicated than the TP main site.  There is a TP app for the iPhone which I've 
not yet tried but that might be my next attempt if I can't resolve this issue.  
Hoping if someone has successfully used the site, you can tell me what I might 
be doing wrong which will enable me to access the TP information I need.

Thank you.

Israel


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Re: Facebook Chat with VoiceOver

2013-02-27 Thread Israel Antonio
Harry,

I can't give any suggestion on FB or chat clients however, I use Voiceover 
exclusively with FB chat on the main site and it works well.  It helps that 
each time someone starts a chat with you, you'll receive an audio signal.  If 
you move VO focus away from the FB chat area and you're reading or writing 
something at a different part of the site, you'll always receive said audio cue 
letting you know person has responded to your chat message or that someone has 
begun a new chat with you.

For the most part, friends start chats with me.  It use to be easier to start 
chats prior to about a year ago when there was a list of every person online at 
the time.  Each link was labeled a friend's name and you could simply clicked 
to activate any link you wanted within the list and a new chat window would 
open up right there with an option just below, I seem to recall, for when you 
wish to close the window.

Nowadays, I still see the list of links labels Friends On Chat however to whom 
each link corresponds is not labeled.  However, just before the list begins, 
there is a link which reads Show Sidebar.  If you activate that link and move 
VO to the bottom of the FB page, there you can find a list of links with your 
friends who are online or whether they are idol but still logged in.  You can 
move through this clearly labeled list and pick the friend with whom you wish 
to chat.  When you click on the name, a new chat window opens and you can begin 
to chat.

I hope that helps should you wish to chat on the main FB site with Voiceover.

Israel
On Feb 27, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Harry Hogue wrote:

> Hello guys,
> 
> Does the Facebook chat feature work with VoiceOver, and if so, how do I go 
> about using it?
> 
> I would like to chat with my friends through Facebook in real-time.
> Regards,
> Harry
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Re: word count

2013-02-22 Thread Israel Antonio
Lisette,

The only way I've found to get a word count for my Text Edit documents is by 
writing and saving in Text Edit, but then when I wish to get a word count, I 
open that same document in Pages, navigate the Inspector until I see where it 
says Word Count and get my count there.  I do not know if this helps or if it's 
too cumbersome, but just an idea.

Israel
On Feb 22, 2013, at 9:09 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote:

> Thanks Ray. Can it be done in Pages instead?
> Lisette
> 
> On 23/02/2013, at 12:48 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> No.  Not directly.  There are two ways you can do it.  One way is through an 
>> apple script which you can find online and insert and assign a  hotkey for 
>> and use.  Another way is via an app called "Word Count".  Not in the app 
>> store so far as I know.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> On Feb 22, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Is it possible to get a word count in text edit? If so how?
>>> I've looked everywhere.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Lisette
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Re: Something weird in iTunes 11.02

2013-02-20 Thread Israel Antonio
Lisette,

I noticed that too.  I played with iTunes searching for a way to change that, 
but no luck so far.  Even podcasts which I've not yet downloaded are marked as 
unplayed as well as being labeled undownloaded.

Israel

On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Lisette Wesseling wrote:

> Hi 
> I just updated to this latest version, and now iTunes tells me I have 566 
> unplayed podcasts. This is simply not true, even knowing the back log of 
> podcasts I have to get through. Has anybody else noticed this? behaviour? It 
> seems to be misreporting this somehow. Everything else is working as normal.
> Thanks.
> 
> Lisette
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Re: Is Facebook Now Completely Broken

2012-08-22 Thread Israel
Brian,

Rest assured, you are not the only one experiencing this.  I started having 
this issue yesterday.  I actually wondered if it was because I hadn't upgraded 
to ML.

I used Facebook on a PC for a very short time years ago and I seem to remember 
the combo edit boxes then, but I don't remember the combo edit boxes rendering 
the field inaccessible to the screen reader I used then.

As Donna, mentioned, I did find the edit box containing the information I typed 
either as my status update or as a comment to a friend's post.  It does take 
some navigating, but I also have been using the item chooser to get me to that 
box quicker.  I don't know how others are dealing with it, but I find that the 
accessible edit box appears at the bottom of the FB page for me and I use 
VO+FN+right arrow to get me there.

I will keep playing to find any possible work-arounds.  If it continues, I will 
e-mail FB.  As others point out, they don't always respond, but I find that at 
66% of the time I have submitted an issue, they do get back to me and do seem 
to try to fix the issue.  I'll see over the next few days as I have also found 
that when a problem of inaccessibility arises, it takes a few days or even 
weeks, but it does get fix.  At least, it does for me.

Israel Antonio

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On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:

> Great to see such a great response here. Let me address a few things
> here. One, I have had Mountain Lion installed for a few weeks, and
> there had been no problem working with ML and Facebook. It just
> started this morning when I pulled FB up to write something. I need to
> use FB for work, so not using it is not an option. I have tried the
> movile version, menu tab and the main website through safari and still
> nothing. Which ever one I go to says What's On Your Mind then Combo
> Bob. For those of you who wrote this has been here for years, it just
> started showing up for me today. I didn't update anything or make any
> changes. I really appreciate the people who suggested work arounds
> that work for them. I finally figured a work around in Menu Tab but
> still not sure what I did so will have to play with a little more.
> Everything was fine when I went to bed last night, so not sure how
> this problem just started happening this morning. There is no way to
> contact Facebook, no phone number, actually I think there is a phone
> number, but good luck trying to get a person on the phone, and if you
> email them you will just get a standard response, as I tried this a
> few years ago. I guess they look at it as there is the Facebook way
> and that is it. Facebook would make a great dictatorship. If others
> are having this problem, please do let us know if you figure out any
> work arounds.
> 
> On Aug 22, 2:36 pm, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> Ok, there is no way this can just be happening to me. If I go to
>> Facebook through Safari, Menu Tab, or Facebook Mobile through Safari
>> on my desktop using Mountain Lion, as soon as I go to What's On Your
>> Mind, the text field where I have been posting my comments for years,
>> VO says, What's On Your Mind Combo Box. It says that through anything
>> I am trying to access FB with. I try to type and nothing, I interact
>> with the combo and nothing. There is no way to update your status. I
>> have restarted my computer thinking maybe it was an error, but am
>> still getting this combo box thing. Any suggestions, as I find it hard
>> to believe it is just me. I have not played around with any settings,
>> it just started happening this morning.
>> 
>> On Aug 22, 12:45 pm, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> I have had it with Facebook, and if I didn't need it for work would
>>> get rid of it. I went to update a status this morning, and went to the
>>> website, was so happy as everything in Mountain Lion had been working
>>> great, as I had set the sweet spot to go straight to update status
>>> field, and then today, I go there and there is now a combo box that is
>>> in the update status text field. I VO shift Down in to the Combo Box
>>> tried typing and nothing, tried moving around and nothing. I said ok
>>> let me go to Menu Tab and just update my status there, and guess what
>>> same thing, the update status text field now has a combo box there.
>>> Has anyone else had this happen today? If so, any work around? The
>>> people who run the mobile site on their desktop are you having the
>>> same problem? I am a non-violent person, but if I ever meet anyone who
>>> works for Facebook, I am going to punch them in the face. They could

Safari Extensions

2011-12-26 Thread Israel
Hi List,

I've been reading through the Safari Extensions gallery on Apple's site as well 
as a few other sites which offer their tips on the best Safari Extensions to 
optimize a user's online experience.  Still, I'm not quite sure, what are 
Extensions and how beneficial are they/worth downloading?

How is the online experience that much more enriched by downloading them as 
well as, if for whatever reason I decide I don't want a specific extension 
anymore, how would I get rid of it?

Thank you so much.

Sexy Isra

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Re: Where in Hades did my notifications go on Facebook?

2011-12-11 Thread Israel
Christine,

As Teresa pointed out, on the main Facebook site, three numbers appear which 
notify a user if one has new messages, notifications, and friend requests. 
VO+space on these numbers makes the information associated with said number 
appear.

Also, a few weeks ago the Facebook Team announced that in order to "save users' 
in box" people would no longer receive e-mail notifications to the same extent 
they had been receiving them.  Instead, Facebook would send e-mail 
notifications only if it determined it was important based on how many "likes" 
or "comments" a status or post received.  However, FB allows one to change this 
under account setting preferences if one wishes to continue receiving e-mail 
notifications on every single thing which is what I do.

I hope that helps.

Sexy Isra

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On Dec 11, 2011, at 3:26 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hi, Christine,
> 
> The very first items you find with Voiceover on the mobile Facebook page (and 
> I believe the full site, too) are two numbers. The first number is the number 
> of messages you have. The second is the number of notifications. VO-space on 
> the second number and your notifications will come up.
> 
> hTh,
> Teresa
> 
> "Visualize whirled peas."
> 
> On Dec 10, 2011, at 8:12 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
> 
>> I checked on both m.facebook.com and the main site, but cannot figure out 
>> how to get to my notifications. I used to receive all of them via e-mail, 
>> but this has mysteriously stopped, though I still receive e-mails if a 
>> friend likes one of my links or sends me a message. I swear, I'm seriously 
>> considering ditching FB for good. 
>> Christine
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Re: Facebook

2011-11-15 Thread Israel
Jennifer,

I just wanted to chime in that the regular Facebook site is what I use.  A 
majority of what one wishes to accomplish is accessible on the site.  I have 
used the mobile site.  From time to time, I'll use a feature or two on there, 
but I much rather use the main site.

You can post links, update status, comment on your own status, comment on 
others' updates, or use different aps.

There are a few times where FB Accessilibty responded promptly and assisted me 
with any issues quickly, but other times where they did not respond yet the 
issue was eventually resolved by the team.

Sexy Isra

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On Nov 15, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:

> Is Facebook accessable?  I've never used it.  Any suggestions?  Just curious.
> 
> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
> On Nov 13, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
> 
>> David,
>> 
>> Your suggestion about that movie was too hilarious :P
>> On my Windows laptop, the mobile site is working perfectly.
>> I have been trying to use the mobile site on my Mac for a long time, but it 
>> always redirects me to the main site.
>> Will the Facebook people do something about it if I write to them?
>> Other mobile sites are working perfectly on my Mac.
>> 
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Re: Facebook accessibility using safari on mac os10 lion

2011-10-01 Thread Israel
Venkatesh,

About ten days ago, Facebook rolled out a new looking home/newsfeed page where 
recent news and top news are now part of one stream.  You can now also see up 
to the second updates on what friends are commenting/posting in a new ticker.

A while back, FB replaced the friend request, messages, and notifications list 
with just numbers which are located above the search edit field.  

>From what FB blog states, as part of the new home page/newsfeed design, one's 
>friend requests are now hidden within a list which doesn't appear on the home 
>page.  I have not yet discovered how to locate it.

There is a list on FB home page which contains update status, add photo, and 
ask question.  When you activate the clickable for update status, the "What's 
On Your Mind" edit box then appears so you can update status.

FB chat still seems to be accessible but since the new layout intorduction, FB 
now combines your chat and your messages together.

I hope that helps a bit.

Sexy Isra

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On Oct 1, 2011, at 6:18 AM, Venkatesh Potluri wrote:

> Hello listers!
> I accessed Facebook using safari on my mac. I was wondering if the
> Facebook home page and other page layouts have changed. I was not able
> to view my notifications, new requests, messages, post status updates,
> write on friends walls, etc.
> How well accessible is the Facebook chat? I would also like to know
> how to go offline and online for chat. Is Facebook not accessible or
> am I not navigating properly?
> Please share your opinion regarding this.
> Any additional tips for using Facebook will be of great help.
> Thank you.
> Cheers
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Donwloading a demo of an application

2011-08-23 Thread Israel
Dear Group,

After speaking to a couple representatives for a couple applications I'm 
interested in buying but wanting to make sure they'll be accessible with VO, I 
decided to download the demo versions of these applications.  The first 
application I tried has now appeared in my downloads.  I pressed VO+shift+m to 
open it.  I was told upon opening it, the application would either begin the 
download or have instructions for me to do so.  Upon pressing open, VO told me 
there was a disc image browser with three choices.  application alias, the ap 
name, and extras folder.

Can someone walk me through the next steps.  I assume this means the download 
has not been complete.  Besides being in the downloads folder, the ap is 
sitting on my desktop and not in my applications folder.  Is the applications 
folder ultimately where it needs to be for me to know that the ap download is 
complete and I can use the ap to test it out?

I'm sorry if these are basic questions.  I've never successfully downloaded aps 
without sighted assistance.  In fact, in my previous attempts to download 
applications to test out, this is the furthest in the process that I've reached 
without being completely frustrated.  I'm not tech savvy at all.  So I hope 
someone can help.

Sexy Isra

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Re: Mariner Software accessability with Voiceover

2011-08-17 Thread Israel
Oriol

The Montage software is a screenwriting software.  Contour is a story structure 
program, and StoryMill is a novel writing software.

In my research to find product and accessibility reviews online, I have run 
across a video editing software, at least I believe it is, which has the 
Montage name in it, but those products are unrelated.

Sexy Isra

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On Aug 17, 2011, at 4:00 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote:

> Hm, what does this software do? Sounds like video production
> 
> On 8/17/11, Israel  wrote:
>> Dear Visionary group,
>> 
>> I have recently been looking at some of the products put out by Mariner
>> Software.  Mainly, Montage, Contour, and others.  A couple sites which I
>> visited highlight one of the main features which the company spotlights
>> which that their Montage software is accessible to blind and visually
>> impaired users of Voiceover.  Some of Montage's competitors which I have
>> tried are not so I am wondering if list members who have tried Montage,
>> Contour, or Story Mill have had wonderful success with these products.
>> 
>> I am thinking of attempting to download a demo, but I am hoping those who
>> have used the software can share some thoughts.  If it is easier, I will
>> include my e-mail address so one can contact me off list for as not to fill
>> up listers' in box with potentially long messages.  thank you.
>> 
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Mariner Software accessability with Voiceover

2011-08-16 Thread Israel
Dear Visionary group,

I have recently been looking at some of the products put out by Mariner 
Software.  Mainly, Montage, Contour, and others.  A couple sites which I 
visited highlight one of the main features which the company spotlights which 
that their Montage software is accessible to blind and visually impaired users 
of Voiceover.  Some of Montage's competitors which I have tried are not so I am 
wondering if list members who have tried Montage, Contour, or Story Mill have 
had wonderful success with these products.

I am thinking of attempting to download a demo, but I am hoping those who have 
used the software can share some thoughts.  If it is easier, I will include my 
e-mail address so one can contact me off list for as not to fill up listers' in 
box with potentially long messages.  thank you.

Sexy Isra

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List of files in Pages and Textedit no longer appearing alphabetically

2011-04-21 Thread Israel
Greetings listers,

I'm so use to my list of files in Pages and TextEdit appearing in alphabetical 
order that I am a bit concerned what I may have done that as of today, I 
noticed files, while still in list view, are not in alphabetical order.  The 
alphabetical order enables me to move through quickly through my files 
especially when I have several drafts of a document which are then listed all 
in a row together, but now they are scattered throughout the list.

Again, I am not sure what to do to undo this so my files can go back to being 
listed in alphabetical order so I hope someone can help me.  I did notice when 
I pressed command+shift+o to view my list of documents, they were listed in 
alphabetical order but when opening Pages and Text Edit they are not.

Yours truly,

Sexy Isra

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Re: an accessible twitter client for mac and Iphone

2011-02-09 Thread Israel
Thank you Ricardo,

I'll keep monitoring what people say on this list and I may end up trying out 
one or more of these Twitter clients just to experience them.  For now, I'll 
simply keep using the regular site as I noticed some of the concerns with 
tweeting, replying, DM, time stamps, or who tweeted are not a problem for me.  
VO seems to read all that out to me as it is, but I'm sure as I continue to 
explore the Twitter site, I'll run into something.  thankfully, a year and a 
half into my Twitter experience, I haven't had any glaring major issues. 

Sexy Isra

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On Feb 9, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Oh,
> 
> It greatly enhances the experience.  Everything is just way more organized, 
> and customizable.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 9, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Israel wrote:
> 
>> I've read often bout the different Twitter clients as listed in this thread. 
>>  Because I'm not the most tech savvy, I am wondering how do these Twitter 
>> clients work and how would I, someone who relies 100% on Voiceover, benefit 
>> from using these clients?  Would it make using the regular Twitter site more 
>> accessible?  I use the regular site and I seem to do well considering there 
>> are a few buttons which aren't labeled but I've learned what they do and I 
>> manage.  Still, I'm curious, maybe my Twitter experience will be greatly 
>> enhanced by the use of one of these clients so I'm hoping someone can fill 
>> me in on it.  Thanks.
>> 
>> Sexy Isra
>> 
>> Israel Antonio
>> www.sexyisra.blogspot.com
>> www.twitter.com/sexyisra
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 9, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jane wrote:
>> 
>>> I use Syrinx, myself, as well as Tweetlist for the iPad.
>>> 
>>> Jane
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 9, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
>>> 
>>>> YoruFukurou and Tweetlist would be my recommendations as well. You're not 
>>>> going to get any better than those recommendations, in my humble opinion.
>>>> Hth,
>>>> Rose
>>>> On Feb 9, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I use yorufukurou for mac and tweetlist for iPhone. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good luck. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 09/02/2011, at 4:36, Ahmed Alomran  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>> i am writing to ask whether it is possible to find and accessible 
>>>>>> twitter client for mac and iphone?
>>>>>> kind regards.
>>>>>> Ahmed.
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Re: an accessible twitter client for mac and Iphone

2011-02-09 Thread Israel
I've read often bout the different Twitter clients as listed in this thread.  
Because I'm not the most tech savvy, I am wondering how do these Twitter 
clients work and how would I, someone who relies 100% on Voiceover, benefit 
from using these clients?  Would it make using the regular Twitter site more 
accessible?  I use the regular site and I seem to do well considering there are 
a few buttons which aren't labeled but I've learned what they do and I manage.  
Still, I'm curious, maybe my Twitter experience will be greatly inhansed by the 
use of one of these clients so I'm hoping someone can fill me in on it.  Thanks.

Sexy Isra

Israel Antonio
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www.twitter.com/sexyisra



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> I use Syrinx, myself, as well as Tweetlist for the iPad.
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> On Feb 9, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
> 
>> YoruFukurou and Tweetlist would be my recommendations as well. You're not 
>> going to get any better than those recommendations, in my humble opinion.
>> Hth,
>> Rose
>> On Feb 9, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> I use yorufukurou for mac and tweetlist for iPhone. 
>>> 
>>> Good luck. 
>>> 
>>> On 09/02/2011, at 4:36, Ahmed Alomran  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all
>>>> i am writing to ask whether it is possible to find and accessible twitter 
>>>> client for mac and iphone?
>>>> kind regards.
>>>> Ahmed.
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VO+main Facebook accessibility Re: Having trouble sharing a link on FB

2011-01-05 Thread Israel
Hi Listers,

Has anyone else noticed that since about a month ago or around the time FB 
unveiled their new profile option, posting status updates or on friends wall 
using the main FB seems easier as VO now recognizes and reads the labels of the 
edit boxes such as "What's On Your Mind" and "Write Something"
For the longest time VO would only read that there was an edit box but not the 
label.  Other listers did previously offer suggestion such as turning curser 
tracking off and using item chooser both of which could spot the labels and 
place the user in the proper edit box, but using VO and the arrow keys didn't 
always work to even find the edit boxes at times.  Now, VO reads seemingly all 
labels and has no difficulty locating the edit box.

For those interested on the main FB sitethere is a "heading level 2" which VO 
reads to me followed by a share button.  If you VO+right arrow once, you'll 
hear VO read that there is a list containing four items.  They are "status", 
"photo", "link", "video"
Pressing VO+space bar on "status" automatically brings up "What's on your mind 
edit box"  Type your status and if you wish, paste a url to a link, you can 
then preview hw the link will look to your friends after you post it.  VO will 
read the edit box as "Say something About The Link"  If you wish to comment 
then you can.  If you're like me and you type your remarks prior to pasting in 
the url then you simply VO+right arrow twice to the share button, press 
VO+space bar and your status is updated.

On a friend's wall you will see the list of four items, but the "status" option 
is replaced by one which reads "post."  VO+space bar on that and you are put 
into an edit box which reads "Write Something."  Take the same steps and post 
on your friend's wall.

Little by little I've been noticing some small accessibility improvements on FB 
main site as slowly more items on the sight can now be recognized by VO.

Sexy Isra
Israel Antonio
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Re: Undownloaded Podcasts

2010-12-07 Thread Israel
Thank you so much Marc,

I did what you suggested and it worked perfectly!  Now I can pull up the 
contextual menu and download undownloaded epsidoes of the podcasts.  

Thank you again to all who provided input with this topic as well.  Just for 
clarification, can someone explain why in a podcast such as this daily radio 
show are the hours divided into separate tracks and usually, of the five 
separate tracks, one or only two are downloaded then one has to go through the 
process of downloading the rest?  I'm simply asking because I'm curious and not 
because I'm inconvenienced.  So long as a list such as this one exists, there 
will always be a place to get the desired answers.

Sexy Isra
Israel Antonio
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www.israelantonio.com
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On Dec 7, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Marc Workman wrote:

> I got my Mac last Thursday, and I was having the same problem.  You want to 
> change the podcasts to a list view.  You can do this by interacting with the 
> podcast table and pressing command option and the number 3.  After that, your 
> VO shift M should bring up the option to download.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Marc
> - Original Message - From: "Israel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 1:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Undownloaded Podcasts
> 
> 
> Thank you Anne, Jude, and Jonathan,
> 
> I made sure to check the setting and it is set to download most recent 
> episode.  Also, I did arrow down to the episode, interacted with it just to 
> ensure I was on the correct one, then VO+shift+m to bring up the contextual 
> menu.  Unfortunately, there was not an option to download.  The only options 
> I received were small, medium, large with a check mark on medium.  Am I still 
> doing something incorrectly?
> 
> Thank you and sorry for my continued confusion.
> 
> Sexy Isra
> Israel Antonio
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> 
> On Dec 7, 2010, at 1:31 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> Hello Isra,
>> 
>> To download an undownloaded podcast, go to the episode and use the 
>> contextual menu (VO-Shift-M) to find the item "Download Podcast Episode".
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
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Re: Undownloaded Podcasts

2010-12-07 Thread Israel
Thank you Anne, Jude, and Jonathan,

I made sure to check the setting and it is set to download most recent episode. 
 Also, I did arrow down to the episode, interacted with it just to ensure I was 
on the correct one, then VO+shift+m to bring up the contextual menu.  
Unfortunately, there was not an option to download.  The only options I 
received were small, medium, large with a check mark on medium.  Am I still 
doing something incorrectly?

Thank you and sorry for my continued confusion.

Sexy Isra
Israel Antonio
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On Dec 7, 2010, at 1:31 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Isra,
> 
> To download an undownloaded podcast, go to the episode and use the contextual 
> menu (VO-Shift-M) to find the item "Download Podcast Episode".
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Undownloaded Podcasts

2010-12-06 Thread Israel
Greeting Mac Visionaries Family,

A while back, I subscribed to the Maccessibility podcast.  At the time, I was 
not too confident with my way around my new Mac so I had sighted assistance.  
More recently, I've been playing around with subscribing to different podcasts 
through iTunes.  On Monday evening, I subscribed to a podcast called Bores And 
Bernstein out of an all sports radio station in Chicago.  It is a daily five 
hour program so each podcast is broken up into five separate one hour tracks.  
I noticed that iTunes downloaded Monday afternoon show, but I was only able to 
play two of the tracks as the other three were labelled "undownloaded."  The 
first and fifth hour were fine, but the middle three were not.  In the table 
listing the tracks, I noticed each hour from the five shows broadcasted last 
week appeared, but every single one was labelled "undownloaded."  

I kept refreshing thinking that would do it.  I read over iTunes Help but was 
not able to find out how do I download the other tracks.  Is it a setting 
issue?  What am I suppose to do to ensure each track is downloaded?

Thank you all!

Sexy Isra

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Re: Using VO to download applications

2010-11-29 Thread Israel
Thank you very much, Carolyn!

This helps me tremendously.  I would have just assumed that once the 
application had been downloaded, I could have looked in my ap folder for it.  
It is great to know to look for it in downloads folder.  I was just looking in 
my downloads folder earlier today wondering what are these things?  I don't 
even know what three fourths of those files are. :)  

Again, thank you, Carolyn.  Every bit helps me.

Sexy Isra

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On Nov 29, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

> Hi Israel:
> Can't point you to a podcast.  But, the download process is pretty straight 
> forward.  I'll give you the basics here, and perhaps someone can point you to 
> more details.
> Find the site you want to download from on the web.  If you're not sure, you 
> can simply google "open office."
> On that site, search for your download link.  It might say, "click here to 
> download," or  "download link," or just give the software name, in this case, 
> open office.  It will probably display as an "EMG" file, which is a common 
> format for apps to download in.  Assuming you've located the link, simply vo 
> space to select it, and vo space to begin your download.  The window will 
> change to display "download list," and you'll be downloading your file.  It 
> will give you an option to press "clear." which you can safely do to help you 
> determine if your download is done.  It won't close that down unless it's 
> finished.  You can also close that list window and continue about your other 
> business.  If you try to shut Safari downn before the download's through, 
> it'll warn you.
> Ok, now your file is very likely in downloads.  You can go command H to home, 
> and/or get yourself to downloads and find that file and open it.  It will 
> either start installing, or show a file to start the process.
> Hopefully, this will at least give you a rough idea what the process should 
> be.  Hopefully I've not confused you too badly.:)
> 
> Good luck.  
> Carolyn 
> 
> On Nov 29, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Israel wrote:
> 
>> Greetings Listers
>> 
>> Does anyone know of a podcast which will take me through the process of 
>> downloading applications such as OpenOffice, Adium, and others?
>> 
>> I navigate and use Pages and Text Edit successfully, but I just want to try 
>> OpenOffice.  I do well with FB chat but I've read so many of your comments 
>> on using third party chat clients that I at least want to try it out.
>> 
>> I've never downloaded an application from the internet without sighted 
>> assistance so I wish to listen to a podcast which walks me through the steps 
>> so I know I am performing the correct steps.  I assume the steps are pretty 
>> much the same no matter what application I am downloading, but if not, this 
>> would be good to know as well.
>> 
>> Again, I wish to experiment and see how I enjoy these applications so if it 
>> turns out I much prefer Pages/Text Edit over OpenOffice, let's say, how 
>> would I then go about removing the application?  Is it as simple as finding 
>> in the application folder, bring up the context menu, pressing move to trash 
>> or are there more steps than that?
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
>> Sexy Isra
>> 
>> Israel Antonio
>> Playwright, Screenwriter, Triathlete, Actor, Filmmaker
>> www.sexyisra.blogspot.com
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> doing the correct
>> 
>> 
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Using VO to download applications

2010-11-29 Thread Israel
Greetings Listers

Does anyone know of a podcast which will take me through the process of 
downloading applications such as OpenOffice, Adium, and others?

I navigate and use Pages and Text Edit successfully, but I just want to try 
OpenOffice.  I do well with FB chat but I've read so many of your comments on 
using third party chat clients that I at least want to try it out.

I've never downloaded an application from the internet without sighted 
assistance so I wish to listen to a podcast which walks me through the steps so 
I know I am performing the correct steps.  I assume the steps are pretty much 
the same no matter what application I am downloading, but if not, this would be 
good to know as well.

Again, I wish to experiment and see how I enjoy these applications so if it 
turns out I much prefer Pages/Text Edit over OpenOffice, let's say, how would I 
then go about removing the application?  Is it as simple as finding in the 
application folder, bring up the context menu, pressing move to trash or are 
there more steps than that?

Thank you!

Sexy Isra

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Re: playing videos in facebook

2010-09-19 Thread Israel
Colin,

I tried the list of FB shortcuts you posted and the only one which works 
consistently is control+2 which takes me from the home page of my newsfeed to 
my profile page.  Then control+1 I believe to go back.  I noticed the other 
shortcuts like going to one's in box, friends or notifications does not work if 
you're on a random spot on the FB page but if you happen to be on the link 
labeled messages then press the shortcut while on said link you will  get the 
in box of messages.  Same for the friends link and the notifications.  If I'm 
on the links and press the shortcut it gives me the corresponding message.

I thought Sarah suggestion of VO+command+f5 might work.  Sorry to hear you and 
Laura were not successful with that.  Although Laura apparently was able to 
play the video.  I am glad you figured it out Laura.  If I ever encounter 
another way to play videos I'll make sure to post it in the hope it helps.

Sexy Isra

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On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Colin M wrote:

> Hi Laura!
> I think I'm having the same problem as you!
> Is the video in question in your friends profile, and does it say view video 
> clickable!
> I've got the same problem if so!
> I tried Sarah's suggestion and it did nothing for me!
> I'm talking to facebook about this and one thing they suggested was to turn 
> off voice over and then do a mouse click!
> I have not tried this yet!
> One more thing those facebook short cut keys I posted do they work for you?
> I got them from facebook but they do not seem to work for me!
> Colin :-]
> 
> On 18 Sep 2010, at 16:39, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Have you tried vo cmd f5 then vo shift space on the link? Sometimes that 
>> works and sometimes it doesn't so worth a try. The worst that can happen is 
>> nothing. lol!
>> Sarah Alawami
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>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>> Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/
>> 
>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 8:01 AM, Laura Bratton wrote:
>> 
>>> Israel,
>>> How do you activate the link? When I press Vo spacebar on that link
>>> that you do nothing happens.
>>> Thanks for the help,
>>> Laura
>>> 
>>> Israel wrote:
>>>> Hi Laura,
>>>> 
>>>> I am not sure if anyone answered this but I found it depends on the source 
>>>> of the video for me.  If it is a youtube video they are sharing, I simply 
>>>> press either VO+space or enter on the link which contains the title and 
>>>> the video begins to play almost immediately if not shortly after.  I have 
>>>> noticed that some times, friends post an HD video such as a friend who was 
>>>> in a short film and when I pressed VO+space on the link, I was redirected 
>>>> to a different page on FB.  The director of the film originally posted the 
>>>> video and when I clicked on the link the new page contained a heading 
>>>> stating videos posted by that individual.  I simply worked down to the one 
>>>> of my friend and when I did, there were two options.  One link was titled 
>>>> "play video in regular quality" and the other link was "play video in HD"  
>>>> When I activated the first link, I waited about ten seconds and the movie 
>>>> began to play.  For the most part when a friend, posts an HD video, these 
>>>> are the steps I take.  Maybe someone has a simpler way to play videos.
>>>> 
>>>> Sexy Isra
>>>> Israel Antonio
>>>> www.israelantonio.com
>>>> www.sexyisra.blogspot.com
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Laura Bratton wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>> how do I play a video that is on Facebook? SOmeone had shared a video 
>>>>> with me and I was trying to play it but could not figure out how  to do 
>>>>> that. Any help would be great!
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Laura
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Re: playing videos in facebook

2010-09-17 Thread Israel
Hi Laura,

I am not sure if anyone answered this but I found it depends on the source of 
the video for me.  If it is a youtube video they are sharing, I simply press 
either VO+space or enter on the link which contains the title and the video 
begins to play almost immediately if not shortly after.  I have noticed that 
some times, friends post an HD video such as a friend who was in a short film 
and when I pressed VO+space on the link, I was redirected to a different page 
on FB.  The director of the film originally posted the video and when I clicked 
on the link the new page contained a heading stating videos posted by that 
individual.  I simply worked down to the one of my friend and when I did, there 
were two options.  One link was titled "play video in regular quality" and the 
other link was "play video in HD"  When I activated the first link, I waited 
about ten seconds and the movie began to play.  For the most part when a 
friend, posts an HD video, these are the steps I take.  Maybe someone has a 
simpler way to play videos.

Sexy Isra
Israel Antonio
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On Sep 16, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Laura Bratton wrote:

> Hi All,
> how do I play a video that is on Facebook? SOmeone had shared a video with me 
> and I was trying to play it but could not figure out how  to do that. Any 
> help would be great!
> thanks,
> Laura 
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Re: inserting an external link using fb mobil and safari

2010-09-08 Thread Israel
Sarah, 
Sorry I can not be more help.  I am interested if others have this problem and 
how they get around it since I have this problem from time to time too only not 
on FB, but on my blog.  Readers have asked me to make links which appear on my 
blog active.  Apparently, when I type the url as part of my entry, it shows up 
as text.  When I cut and paste the url from elsewhere, most of the time it 
appears as a link on which readers can then click to activate.  I have not 
figured out how to always ensure the url is always a link which can be 
activated.

Sexy Isra

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On Sep 8, 2010, at 1:54 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> For me it shows up as for example http://google.com in text format.. I even 
> tried an email entry for fb and no go. it turned out th esame way. No link, 
> nothing.
> On Sep 7, 2010, at 10:58 PM, Israel wrote:
> 
>> Sarah,
>> 
>> I've always found that when I use the mobile FB site pasting the url works 
>> just fine, but what happens when you try it?
>> 
>> The only issues I had with the mobile site is that when I would cut and 
>> paste a url to a specific entry for my Sexy Isra Experience blog, a security 
>> check would pop up and ask me to type the words in the box, but wouldn't 
>> offer an audio alternative.  I once had a sighted person try to fill it in 
>> for me, but he couldn't either.  The main FB site will also do this to me 
>> from time to time but with the audio alternative I always manage it just 
>> fine.  Otherwise, pasting url works fine.
>> 
>> I've found that I can use the share functionality on some sites to post to 
>> FB, but when I press this option on a site, it seems to always take me to 
>> the main FB site.  I use the main FB site all the time so it's not a problem 
>> but if you're not comfortable with it, I do not know if this would be an 
>> option for you.
>> 
>> Sexy Isra
>> 
>> Israel antonio
>> www.sexyisra.blogspot.com
>> www.twitter.com/sexyisra
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 7, 2010, at 8:35 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello. how do I insert a external link using fb mobil and safari? I've 
>>> tried everything I can think of including copying and pasting but no go.  I 
>>> use SNL 6.4 and safari 5. Thanks..
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Re: inserting an external link using fb mobil and safari

2010-09-07 Thread Israel
Sarah,

I've always found that when I use the mobile FB site pasting the url works just 
fine, but what happens when you try it?

The only issues I had with the mobile site is that when I would cut and paste a 
url to a specific entry for my Sexy Isra Experience blog, a security check 
would pop up and ask me to type the words in the box, but wouldn't offer an 
audio alternative.  I once had a sighted person try to fill it in for me, but 
he couldn't either.  The main FB site will also do this to me from time to time 
but with the audio alternative I always manage it just fine.  Otherwise, 
pasting url works fine.

I've found that I can use the share functionality on some sites to post to FB, 
but when I press this option on a site, it seems to always take me to the main 
FB site.  I use the main FB site all the time so it's not a problem but if 
you're not comfortable with it, I do not know if this would be an option for 
you.

Sexy Isra

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> Hello. how do I insert a external link using fb mobil and safari? I've tried 
> everything I can think of including copying and pasting but no go.  I use SNL 
> 6.4 and safari 5. Thanks..
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Re: having mail issues with apple mail: my account won't go online at all

2010-08-09 Thread Israel
Hi Sarah,

While I can not speak for anyone else, I just wanted to let you know that I 
received this message you sent about your mail issue but I did not receive the 
first one you apparently sent out.  

I had the same problems apparently back in November of last year, but honestly 
I didn't know enough to fix the problem.  I became so frustrated with it that I 
just gave up and went to bed.  Besides unable to take accounts online I started 
getting a message from Mail telling me to type my password over and over again. 
 Since I bought my Mac, I've never had that prompt before.  Now since November, 
I can not send messages until I type my password.  Oh and in my case, by the 
morning, Mail was working again.  As I wrote previously, I am not sure how it 
was fixed.  I wish I could be more help.  sorry.

Sexy Isra

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On Aug 9, 2010, at 12:55 PM, sarah alawami wrote:

> Hello to all. I'm sending this again incase my first message didn't make it.
> 
> I'm having  bait of trouble with the apple mail client wherein it
> won't bring my account online. I have not yet tested with my iphone
> yet but I don't' recall making any changes since last night when I
> went to bed. What happened?
> 
> the take all accounts online constantly is not dimmed and even the
> message that my account is offline shows up in the mail message info
> dialogue. I sould add I'm writing this fromt he gmail website.
> 
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Re: Facebook and Safari 5?

2010-06-10 Thread Israel
Mike

If you wish to contact Facebook, I found it best to click on the help center 
link on any page and find a link on that new page called accessibility.  You 
can fill out a form which includes providing your name, email, and if you use a 
screen reader you are asked to indicate which one, then type an email.  I have 
previously received an automated response immediately which is then followed by 
an apparent live person usually within a day.  Some times within hours but 
normally a day.

The issue involving VO previously being able to locate the "What's On Your 
Mind" edit box for me only to suddenly stop recognizing it until I tried some 
of the suggestions offered by others on this list is an issue FB accessibility 
has yet to solve but other minor issues I have had were usually solved over 
time.

Sexy Isra
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On Jun 10, 2010, at 2:41 PM, mike Reiser wrote:

> Have thought about contacting facebook about all this, any way to contact 
> them?  
> 
> Mike
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> 
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> 
> yahoo screen name: miker19882001
> 
> skype name: miker1988
> 
> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/archenemy12
> 
> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/blindguy21
> 
> On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> I'm with you Olivia.  There seems to be no consistancy with VO and the 
>> regular Facebook site.  I use the Mobile site myself, but it seems to be 
>> very slow at times.  Most of the time when I do a VO[ to go back a page, it 
>> seems to stall and take forever to back up a page.  It would be nice to have 
>> a seemlessly functional Facebook page wouldn't it?  :)
>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Olivia Norman wrote:
>> 
>>> I can't get FB to work with safari five, but then again, I didn't like it 
>>> much with safari four, either.  I found the main page to be very cluttered, 
>>> and not very accessible.  How did you have success navigating it, eric?
>>> Olivia
>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs
>>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 6:49 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, I've not had any problems with fb under safari four.  If anything the 
>>>> experience should be richer under safari 5, but I too have been scared off 
>>>> by the problems.  I'm hoping they come out with a 5.1 or 5.01 sometime in 
>>>> the next few weeks that solves some issues.
>>>> 
>>>> By the way, how do the nightly builds of webkit stack up against safari 5?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>>> User support consultant,
>>>> Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>>> Toll-free: 888-255-5194
>>>> 
>>>> On 2010-06-10, at 10:01 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've held off up on upgrading to Safari 5 because of all the problems 
>>>>> people seem to be having.  But I'm wondering if anyone has tried using 
>>>>> Facebook?  I'm getting really tired of having to switch to my PC every 
>>>>> time I want to post to Facebook.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Donna
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Re: Facebook and Safari 5?

2010-06-10 Thread Israel
Hi Donna

I press VO+command+f4 to move keyboard focus.

I was initially simply turning curser tracking off but nothing was happening 
then I tried moving keyboard focus and realized I could then type in the edit 
box.

As you wrote, it's great to have several options since you never know if for 
whatever reason one option stops working temporarily or one finds an option 
just easier.

Sexy Isra

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On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi Israel,
> 
> How do you move keyboard focus to the edit box?  That must be what I was 
> doing wrong.  I used VO-Shift-F3 to turn off cursor tracking, but then still 
> wasn't able to get into the edit box.  Eric's suggestion worked great, but I 
> figure it's always good to have multiple options. :)
> Take care,
> Donna
> On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Israel wrote:
> 
>> Donna,
>> 
>> I noticed that as well as I tried logging on to the mobile FB site.  I 
>> rarely use it but just having the option was nice.  
>> 
>> Ricardo's suggestion about turning curser tracking off to find the "What's 
>> On Your Mind" edit box works like a charm!  Once there, I move keyboard 
>> focus there and type away.  VO doesn't speak though but after I am done I am 
>> able to listen to what I typed.  I have not yet figured out how to correct 
>> typos manually.  It's still hit or miss, but in recent months I've noticed 
>> some features on FB whose labels were not read by VO are now being read.
>> 
>> I just tried Eric's suggestion from earlier and seems to have been 
>> successful too.  Thanks for that idea.
>> 
>> I am also happy to report that a few emails I've sent to FB Accessibility 
>> people have been promptly answered and someone there has helped with a few 
>> issues I was having.  
>> 
>> Sexy Isra
>> 
>> Israel Antonio
>> www.sexyisra.blogspot.com
>> www.twitter.com/sexyisra
>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> I hate to tell you this, but this morning, when I tried to log into 
>>> www.m.facebook.com, it was gone.
>>> Take care,
>>> Donna
>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>>> 
>>>> hello;  I know there are some people on this list that have had success 
>>>> using the regular or lite version of faceboo, but the only one i can use 
>>>> reliably is the mobile version.  and this limits me because i can't use 
>>>> their aps or go to chat sessions.  I too am waiting for the next update 
>>>> before going to safari five.  good luck, max
>>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Olivia Norman wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I can't get FB to work with safari five, but then again, I didn't like it 
>>>>> much with safari four, either.  I found the main page to be very 
>>>>> cluttered, and not very accessible.  How did you have success navigating 
>>>>> it, eric?
>>>>> Olivia
>>>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 6:49 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, I've not had any problems with fb under safari four.  If anything 
>>>>>> the experience should be richer under safari 5, but I too have been 
>>>>>> scared off by the problems.  I'm hoping they come out with a 5.1 or 5.01 
>>>>>> sometime in the next few weeks that solves some issues.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> By the way, how do the nightly builds of webkit stack up against safari 
>>>>>> 5?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>>>>> User support consultant,
>>>>>> Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>>>>> Toll-free: 888-255-5194
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2010-06-10, at 10:01 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've held off up on upgrading to Safari 5 because of all the problems 
>>>>>>> people seem to be having.  But I'm wondering if anyone has tried using 
>>>>>>> Facebook?  I'm getting really tired of having to switch to my PC every 
>>>>>>> time I want to post to Facebook.
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>

Re: Mobile Face Book URL

2010-06-10 Thread Israel
Ana,

The mobile site is very accessible on a Mac.  I never tried it on a PC but on a 
Mac, it works well.  I much prefer the robust main FB site but the mobile site 
is very handy.

Sexy Isra

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On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Ana G wrote:

> The URL for the mobile Face Book site is
> http://m.facebook.com
> 
> It doesn't have the www. I haven't been brave enough to try it on a Mac yet, 
> but in windows, it works very well. 
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Re: Facebook and Safari 5?

2010-06-10 Thread Israel
Donna,

I noticed that as well as I tried logging on to the mobile FB site.  I rarely 
use it but just having the option was nice.  

Ricardo's suggestion about turning curser tracking off to find the "What's On 
Your Mind" edit box works like a charm!  Once there, I move keyboard focus 
there and type away.  VO doesn't speak though but after I am done I am able to 
listen to what I typed.  I have not yet figured out how to correct typos 
manually.  It's still hit or miss, but in recent months I've noticed some 
features on FB whose labels were not read by VO are now being read.

I just tried Eric's suggestion from earlier and seems to have been successful 
too.  Thanks for that idea.

I am also happy to report that a few emails I've sent to FB Accessibility 
people have been promptly answered and someone there has helped with a few 
issues I was having.  

Sexy Isra

Israel Antonio
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On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> I hate to tell you this, but this morning, when I tried to log into 
> www.m.facebook.com, it was gone.
> Take care,
> Donna
> On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
> 
>> hello;  I know there are some people on this list that have had success 
>> using the regular or lite version of faceboo, but the only one i can use 
>> reliably is the mobile version.  and this limits me because i can't use 
>> their aps or go to chat sessions.  I too am waiting for the next update 
>> before going to safari five.  good luck, max
>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Olivia Norman wrote:
>> 
>>> I can't get FB to work with safari five, but then again, I didn't like it 
>>> much with safari four, either.  I found the main page to be very cluttered, 
>>> and not very accessible.  How did you have success navigating it, eric?
>>> Olivia
>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs
>>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 6:49 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, I've not had any problems with fb under safari four.  If anything the 
>>>> experience should be richer under safari 5, but I too have been scared off 
>>>> by the problems.  I'm hoping they come out with a 5.1 or 5.01 sometime in 
>>>> the next few weeks that solves some issues.
>>>> 
>>>> By the way, how do the nightly builds of webkit stack up against safari 5?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>>> User support consultant,
>>>> Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>>> Toll-free: 888-255-5194
>>>> 
>>>> On 2010-06-10, at 10:01 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've held off up on upgrading to Safari 5 because of all the problems 
>>>>> people seem to be having.  But I'm wondering if anyone has tried using 
>>>>> Facebook?  I'm getting really tired of having to switch to my PC every 
>>>>> time I want to post to Facebook.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Donna
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Re: Can you set the VO keys to the caps lock like in jaws?

2010-06-04 Thread Israel
Alfredo

I'm not sure if this is the answer you're looking for but if you're looking to 
simply lock the VO keys then yes you can.  Press VO+; and you will lock the VO 
keys so you can navigate with the arrow keys or anywhere you need to press 
VO+another key you simply have to press that other key without worrying about 
pressing VO.  to unlock the VO keys just press VO+; again.  

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On Jun 4, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Alfredo wrote:

> I know that VO is not jaws, and vise versa, but.  I use jaws on a
> laptop and use the keyboard in laptop mode where the cap lock serves
> as my jaws key, which is basically  the VO keys but in Vo two keys are
> pressed instead of one in jaws.  So can you configure the VO keys to
> be the caplocks key.  If you can, will you still have a functioning
> caplocks key like in jaws.  I mean in jaws you can quickly double tap
> the caplocks key to toggle cpalocks on or off, or you can just press
> it in combination with other keys to do jaws specific commands.
> Scirpting suggestions are welcomed, also if you can do this with the
> sharp program I would like to know.  One last thing, will this
> interfere with fusion?  Does fusion use the capslock as it key?
> Thansk
> alfredo
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Re: viewing/deleting addresses from mail

2010-04-13 Thread Israel
Thank you Donna for asking the question and Brett for answering.  I just asked 
my friend this morning this very question, but she didn't know the answer so I 
told her I'll ask the members of Mac Visionaries and there it was!  I just love 
this group!!

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On Apr 13, 2010, at 4:17 PM, Brett Campbell wrote:

> Hello Donna,
> 
> It's simple.  Go to Window on the menu bar, VO down arrow until you find 
> Previous Recipients, enter on that and you will be able to delete away.
> 
> 
> Brett C.
> 
> On Apr 13, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'd like to delete a few addresses that Mail added as a result of email 
>> correspondence, i.e. they're in Mail, but not in my address book.  Can 
>> anyone tell me how to do this?
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: using facebook with safari

2010-03-16 Thread Israel
I turned   off curser tracking per  Ricardo's suggestion  I was able to 
successfully go to the comment link mouse click on it with VO+shift+space.  
This will come in handy when I want to comment on someone's post if they post 
bad/unfortunate news.  If no one has previously comment on their post, I have 
to press the "like" link to make the comment edit box appear and I always feel 
a little strange "liking" their status update if they're posting their mother 
died or their kid is in the hospital so this ability to comment the way Ricardo 
suggest will be useful.

When curser tracking is off, I find that VO always finds and read the "what's 
on your mind" edit box and the "write something" edit box on someone's wall but 
when I try to type, VO does not speak what I type and when I check, nothing has 
been typed in the edit box.  If I interact, all I get is the label spelled out. 
 So, am I missing a final step to enable me to type in the edit box?

BTW, since I didn't have any success with typing status update and I'm already 
in the edit box to type, I experimented with turning curser tracking back on 
hoping I can then type a status or on someone's wall but instead, VO simply 
says "html content" and the edit box is gone.

Sexy Isra

Israel Antonio
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On Mar 16, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I tried turning off cursor tracking with VO shift F3.  I did have success 
> updating status and writing on walls when it was off.
> On Mar 16, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> You can update status very easily at the full site when in Windows.  Also, 
>> if our sited counterparts can use the full site, then clearly there is an 
>> issue related to VO.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> On Mar 16, 2010, at 2:14 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> 
>>> I use bboth the lyte and the m.facebook access and I can't say I've seen
>>> the apps on it from within windows / IE or firefox either, so I don't see
>>> how it can be something apple have to work on.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2010 1:49 a.m.
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: using facebook with safari
>>> 
>>> On 2010-03-15, at 8:49 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> The problem with this is that the lite site, like the mobile site, won't
>>> let you interface with the apps.  Personally, I really think this is
>>> something Apple needs to work on.
>>> 
>>> * I think that if Facebook followed web standards, including WCAG 2.0, then
>>> the site would work fine. I don't think that there's anything that Apple
>>> needs to work on, at least not until Facebook commits to web standards.
>>> 
>>> Everett
>>> 
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Re: using facebook with safari

2010-03-16 Thread Israel
Hi Donna

I've not played with Facebook on a PC since June 2009.  When I switched to the 
Mac I wanted to make a clean break from Windows so when given the option I 
declined to have a part of my Mac set up with Windows as many people do.  My 
reasoning was I wanted to completely leave the trojen horses and viruses which 
almost wiped out my decades worth of screenplays, theatre pieces, stories 
behind.  Although, now I read the listeres here and I wonder if I should have 
done as so many do.  Is it too late to put Windows on my Mac?  Although I don't 
miss the headaches of worrying about updating my virus protection, I kind of do 
miss some aspects of windows.  

Sexy Isra

Israel Antonio
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On Mar 16, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi Israel,
> 
> Not sure how long it's been since you have done this on the PC, but it may 
> have improved.  I use JAWS, so can't say for sure about Window Eyes, but I 
> have no problem updating my profile or chatting.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Mar 16, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Israel wrote:
> 
>> I agree with Donna.  The time I logged on to Facebook when I had my PC, I 
>> could always update status and/or post on friends' walls with ease.  At the 
>> time I used Window-Eyes screen reader and it was easy to use FB main page to 
>> update status.  Now, there were  other aspects of FB such as chat, 
>> applications, and even the share function I could never figure out.  I had a 
>> difficult time changing my profile info too.  I always had to get sighted 
>> help and they said they noticed, the screen reader would even speak labels, 
>> links, or items that weren't even on the page.  One friend said "I can see 
>> the screen while listening to the speech and I'm confused.  How do you deal 
>> with this?"
>> 
>> Outside of the updating status or writing on walls, I have found that when 
>> using my iMac and Voiceover, the main FB site seems "clearer" and not as 
>> confusing as when using Window-Eyes.  I also find I have access to many more 
>> things on FB now that I use VO and my Mac.  Even posting comments to my 
>> friends' updates was a major confusing chore on the PC but with Mac, my only 
>> early struggles came when adjusting to this new concept of when to interact 
>> and when not.  In fact, in general, when using my PC, I could NEVER access 
>> any online forms on any site successfully.  Maybe it was just my inability 
>> to grasp how to do it but with VO, I find that I am able to fill out forms 
>> and register for events, races, gatherings much easier.  
>> 
>> In situations like this, I wish I was more tech savvy or knowledgeable about 
>> computers, applications, and other aspects to provide better insight.  
>> 
>> Sexy Isra
>> 
>> Israel Antonio
>> www.sexyisra.blogspot.com
>> www.twitter.com/sexyisra
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 16, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> You can update status very easily at the full site when in Windows.  Also, 
>>> if our sited counterparts can use the full site, then clearly there is an 
>>> issue related to VO.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> On Mar 16, 2010, at 2:14 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I use bboth the lyte and the m.facebook access and I can't say I've seen
>>>> the apps on it from within windows / IE or firefox either, so I don't see
>>>> how it can be something apple have to work on.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2010 1:49 a.m.
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: using facebook with safari
>>>> 
>>>> On 2010-03-15, at 8:49 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The problem with this is that the lite site, like the mobile site, won't
>>>> let you interface with the apps.  Personally, I really think this is
>>>> something Apple needs to work on.
>>>> 
>>>> * I think that if Facebook followed web standards, including WCAG 2.0, then
>>>> the site would work fine. I don't think that there's anything that Apple
>>>> needs to work on, at least not until Facebook commits to web standards.
>>>> 
>>>> Everett
>>

Re: using facebook with safari

2010-03-16 Thread Israel
I agree with Donna.  The time I logged on to Facebook when I had my PC, I could 
always update status and/or post on friends' walls with ease.  At the time I 
used Window-Eyes screen reader and it was easy to use FB main page to update 
status.  Now, there were  other aspects of FB such as chat, applications, and 
even the share function I could never figure out.  I had a difficult time 
changing my profile info too.  I always had to get sighted help and they said 
they noticed, the screen reader would even speak labels, links, or items that 
weren't even on the page.  One friend said "I can see the screen while 
listening to the speech and I'm confused.  How do you deal with this?"

Outside of the updating status or writing on walls, I have found that when 
using my iMac and Voiceover, the main FB site seems "clearer" and not as 
confusing as when using Window-Eyes.  I also find I have access to many more 
things on FB now that I use VO and my Mac.  Even posting comments to my 
friends' updates was a major confusing chore on the PC but with Mac, my only 
early struggles came when adjusting to this new concept of when to interact and 
when not.  In fact, in general, when using my PC, I could NEVER access any 
online forms on any site successfully.  Maybe it was just my inability to grasp 
how to do it but with VO, I find that I am able to fill out forms and register 
for events, races, gatherings much easier.  

In situations like this, I wish I was more tech savvy or knowledgeable about 
computers, applications, and other aspects to provide better insight.  

Sexy Isra

Israel Antonio
www.sexyisra.blogspot.com
www.twitter.com/sexyisra










On Mar 16, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> You can update status very easily at the full site when in Windows.  Also, if 
> our sited counterparts can use the full site, then clearly there is an issue 
> related to VO.
> Best,
> Donna
> On Mar 16, 2010, at 2:14 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> 
>> I use bboth the lyte and the m.facebook access and I can't say I've seen
>> the apps on it from within windows / IE or firefox either, so I don't see
>> how it can be something apple have to work on.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt
>> Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2010 1:49 a.m.
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: using facebook with safari
>> 
>> On 2010-03-15, at 8:49 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> The problem with this is that the lite site, like the mobile site, won't
>> let you interface with the apps.  Personally, I really think this is
>> something Apple needs to work on.
>> 
>> * I think that if Facebook followed web standards, including WCAG 2.0, then
>> the site would work fine. I don't think that there's anything that Apple
>> needs to work on, at least not until Facebook commits to web standards.
>> 
>> Everett
>> 
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Re: using facebook with safari

2010-03-15 Thread Israel
Hi Donna

There are two ways I've stumbled into the edit box.  

1.  On the FB main page where it has a link then a number which is the number 
of notifications you have, I VO+space on the notification link so I can read 
list of notifications.  I came across one stating "Janes Smith commented on 
your status"  so I pressed VO+space on the status link to go read her comment.  
After doing so, instead of pressing the link "home" I pressed command+left 
bracket.  Remembering there was something else I wanted to read on my wall, I 
quickly pressed command+right bracket to move forward.  I was amused by this 
for no apparent reason so I began pressing them several times consecutively.  
Forward back forward back.  When I finally stopped, I was on the main FB site 
ready to resume reading friends' updates when I pressed VO+right arrow to make 
my way down the page and found Voiceover saying the following, "what's on your 
mind edit box"  Sure enough, I was in the box and tested it by updating my 
status and it worked!  So now every so often, I will be on the main FB site and 
activate the link to my profile.  Once on my profile page, I press command+left 
bracket then quickly  command+right bracket so that I keep going back and forth 
several times then I stop at the main FB site and some times, VO then reads the 
edit box and it's accompanying label.

NOTE:  It is a bit strange and it does some times cause VO to turn off then 
turn right back on.

2. The other option is on the FB main site when reading friends' updates, there 
is a heading "friends online" followed by a heading "newsfeed"  I arrow over to 
the two options which read top news and most recent.  I press VO+space on "most 
recent" then VO+right arrow  twice and hear "what's on your mind"  VO only 
reads the label but doesn't put me in the edit box so I press command+r to 
reload the page.  When the page reloads, I quickly move to the newsfeed heading 
and VO+right arrow once and I hear "what's on your mind edit box" and I can 
type in my status.  

NOTE:  Again, this doesn't always work and when it does, I usually have 
anywhere between 30 seconds up to three minutes before mysteriously, access to 
the edit box is no longer possible.  Haven't figured that part out.

I hope that helps Donna.  If there is another way to get access to the edit box 
on the main FB site, I hope someone shares it because the fact that these work 
even if not all the time leads me to believe we're not all that far away from 
someone figuring it out.  I did use FB main site for three months after buying 
my IMac and was able to use the edit box to always update my status. The only 
problem was VO would never read the label "what's on your mind"  It would only 
say "edit box" but I knew I was in the right place because when I used my PC, 
edit box label was read by Window-Eyes and having learned the layout, I knew 
that was indeed the proper edit box to update my status.  Now, with these two 
"out of the box" methods I've been using, VO does read the label so again, I 
know we're close.  I can feel it!!

Israel Antonio
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On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi Israel,
> 
> What was the way you "stumbled upon to access that box?
> Donna
> On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Israel wrote:
> 
>> Ronit,
>> 
>> I use the main site.  Yes, I do some times update status via the mobile site 
>> as well as through my twitter account which I have set to also update FB 
>> status.
>> 
>> Other than updating status or writing on walls, I seem to navigate well on 
>> the main site able to "like" a friend's status or comment on his/her 
>> updates.  I can seemingly locate all other edit boxes on the newsfeed, my 
>> profile, or any changes I try to make to my profile, preferences, or 
>> settings.  I just figured out through trial and error as well as several 
>> friends constantly sending me IMs how to use the FB chat on the main site.  
>> Because of this list, I seriously considered download a third party ap for 
>> accessability purposes but if I can do it through the FB chat successfully 
>> then I will stick with that for now.
>> 
>> As for FB aps, I don't play any games on FB other than once in a while 
>> accepting/sending gifts in Mofia Wars but for the most part I only use the 
>> Twitter ap within FB and the "send a drink" and "send a hug" aps and they 
>> all work just fine as I naviagte the tables, edit boxes, or controls.
>> 
>> Oh and I did recently stumble upon a way where I can get the "what's on your 
>> mind" e

Re: using facebook with safari

2010-03-15 Thread Israel
Ronit,

I use the main site.  Yes, I do some times update status via the mobile site as 
well as through my twitter account which I have set to also update FB status.

Other than updating status or writing on walls, I seem to navigate well on the 
main site able to "like" a friend's status or comment on his/her updates.  I 
can seemingly locate all other edit boxes on the newsfeed, my profile, or any 
changes I try to make to my profile, preferences, or settings.  I just figured 
out through trial and error as well as several friends constantly sending me 
IMs how to use the FB chat on the main site.  Because of this list, I seriously 
considered download a third party ap for accessability purposes but if I can do 
it through the FB chat successfully then I will stick with that for now.

As for FB aps, I don't play any games on FB other than once in a while 
accepting/sending gifts in Mofia Wars but for the most part I only use the 
Twitter ap within FB and the "send a drink" and "send a hug" aps and they all 
work just fine as I naviagte the tables, edit boxes, or controls.

Oh and I did recently stumble upon a way where I can get the "what's on your 
mind" edit box to appear and update my status on the main FB site but it is 
kind of hit or miss only working about 40 percent of the time but that's better 
than nothing I guess.
Hope this helps

Israel Antonio
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On Mar 14, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni wrote:

> Hello all,
> I'm new to the list and new to using Mac. I just got my mac mini two weeks 
> ago and so far I'm really enjoying it. One thing I'd like to know is if any 
> of you use the regular facebook site with safari and voiceover successfully? 
> I'm having trouble locating edit boxes on the site. For example, updating 
> status messages, writing on people's walls, etc. Of course I can do this by 
> accessing the mobile site but the mobile site is not as powerful as the full 
> site and I'd like to use the full site if possible. If any of you have any 
> tricks or tips, I'd love to hear them.
> Thanks.
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Re: using facebook with safari

2010-03-15 Thread Israel
When I was considering joining Facebook a year ago, I read various online 
articles in the hopes of finding out whether FB was screen reader friendly 
and/or to see what others who use screen readers have experienced in terms of 
accessibility.  While I don't recall the specifics, I remember reading letters 
and forum discussions at the American Foundation For The Blind who along with a 
sixteen year old high school student, Michelle was working with the director of 
development, Jeff(I believe) for Facebook in attempting to making the site 
accessible to the blind/visually impaired.  Although FB's frequent changes may 
suggest otherwise, the company seems open to helping bridge the accessibility 
gap so has anyone approached them about complying to web standards and showing 
how this would benefit a segment of the population they apparently seem willing 
to accommodate?

Israel Antonio
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On Mar 15, 2010, at 7:49 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:

> On 2010-03-15, at 8:49 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> The problem with this is that the lite site, like the mobile site, won't let 
>> you interface with the apps.  Personally, I really think this is something 
>> Apple needs to work on.
> 
> * I think that if Facebook followed web standards, including WCAG 2.0, then 
> the site would work fine. I don't think that there's anything that Apple 
> needs to work on, at least not until Facebook commits to web standards.
> 
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Re: using Facebook on the Mac?

2009-12-28 Thread Israel
Hi Donna,

I will say up front, I am not computer savvy at all.  I joined Facebook after 
my friends insisted and have been on since March of this year and after buying 
an IMac in June, I've found FB to be much more enjoyable and accessible for the 
most part.  My only major problem started in September when for no apparent 
reason, VO would not recognize the edit box labeled "what's on your mind"  
Prior to that September, Monday afternoon I could post my status updates on the 
main FB page without a problem.  To go around that, I started using 
m.facebook.com but do much more prefer the main FB site.  While I appreciate 
the mobile site and some of the other options such as FB lite, I find myself 
more lost when using those as oppose to the main www.facebook.com site.

I find I can respond to friends' statuses, comment, like their updates, check 
in box, view and share links, activate every link and have recently begun 
playing with various applications/games on FB and find that with enough time 
spent playing around with them I can access over 97% of FB related material 
without having to resort to different tricks or adjustments to VO settings.

P.S. In recent weeks, I've noticed that VO is recognizing the edit box "what's 
on your mind" for a bit before resorting to skipping over it completely again 
so it makes me think this has to be a resolvable issue.  Again, I didn't have 
this probably for a few months after setting up FB account. I also found that I 
can update my FB status through an ap when using my Twitter account

If there is any specific issue you're having I will do my best to explain how I 
do it, if you need.

Israel Antonio
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> Hi all,
> 
> Anyone had much luck with this?  I'm trying it out, and finding it  
> very hard to get around and figure out how to do things.  If anyone  
> has tips for using Facebook on the Mac, I'd appreciate any info.
> TIA,
> Donna
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Happy Holidays!!

2009-12-24 Thread Israel
>  
> Thank you Cara!
> 
> On a personal note, thank you to Cara, Josh De Lioncourt, and the rest of the 
> wonderful individuals who take the time to do podcasts, write online 
> articles, and provide insight and a place for someone like me to learn about 
> computers and especially accessible products.  I thank you for all your 
> effort and tireless energy as well as all of you on this list who inform, 
> entertain, and educate me on products and applications.  I appreciate the 
> time people take to answer my questions however basic they may be.  I hope 
> for a happy and healthy end to this year and a similar start to 2010 for each 
> one of you.  
> Israel Antonio
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> On Dec 24, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
> 
>> Hi All;
>> 
>> Let me just take this opportunity to wish all of you a most lovely holiday 
>> celebration!!!
>> 
>> I thank you, deeply and sincerely, for being a part of these communities. 
>> Your presence and contributions are most welcome and truly appreciated. You 
>> make these communities what they are! Ya'll rock! *smile* 
>> 
>> All good wishes to you and yours!!!
>> 
>> Hugs and happiness yer' way!!!
>> 
>> Cara :)
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>> 
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Re: Happy Holidays!!!

2009-12-24 Thread Israel
Thank you Cara!

On a personal note, thank you to Cara, Josh De Lioncourt, and the rest of the 
wonderful individuals who take the time to do podcasts, write online articles, 
and provide insight and a place for someone like me to learn about computers 
and especially accessible products.  I thank you for all your effort and 
tireless energy as well as all of you on this list who inform, entertain, and 
educate me on products and applications.  I appreciate the time people take to 
answer my questions however basic they may be.  I hope for a happy and healthy 
end to this year and a similar start to 2010 for each one of you.  
Israel Antonio
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> 
>  Let me just take this opportunity to wish all of you a most lovely holiday 
> celebration!!!
> 
>  I thank you, deeply and sincerely, for being a part of these communities. 
> Your presence and contributions are most welcome and truly appreciated. You 
> make these communities what they are! Ya'll rock! *smile* 
> 
>  All good wishes to you and yours!!!
> 
> Hugs and happiness yer' way!!!
> 
> Cara :)
> ---
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> 
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> 
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Re: nifty trick for jumping to top or bottom of message list in mail

2009-12-09 Thread Israel
Thank you for this Donna!  I've gotten into the habit of remembering the 
sender's name or subject of a specific email near the bottom of a long list of 
emails so I just type a few letters and VO takes me there.  A tip I picked up 
from I believe it was Cara Quinn and the www.lioncourt.com Tips section.  Your 
option + arrow keys is much quicker.  :) At least to get me to the bottom 
immediately.

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On Dec 9, 2009, at 4:31 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Just wanted to share a tip I just got from Accessibility.  I had  
> written them seeking an alternate option to move to top and bottom of  
> message lists, as I find the million-key combination for home on a  
> Macbook to be difficult enough to be most annoying.  The suggested the  
> following alternative, Option plus up/down arrow, held down for just a  
> second.  this works fabulously, and i didn't know about it, so thought  
> I'd pass it along in case anyone else found it useful.
> Best,
> Donna
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Re: changing the font in a document

2009-11-30 Thread Israel
Hi Donna,
1.  To hear text attributes, control + option + t
If in Text Edit, you'll here the size, font family name, and whether the line 
is aligned left right or center

2. command + t should bring up font choices where you can pick which font 
family, the size, and I can't recall what other choices.

Hope that helps.  I've often written to the list for help and I'm just glad I 
finally can provide some answers so I hope I've helped.


Israel Antonio
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> Hi all,
> 
> In short, how does one do this?  I have incorporated text from 2  
> different documents, and want to make sure the font is the same  
> throughout my final document.  I've tried Command-T, but I just get  
> some weird text underline menu.  Thinking about it, I guess my  
> question is twofold:
> 1.  How can I hear the text attributes of a given line of text?
> and 2.  How can I set the whole document to a single font?
> 
> On the positive side, Text Edit didn't hang this time. :)
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Adium for Twitter andresources for just learning computers

2009-11-16 Thread Israel

Hi list!!

I've been reading the posts on this list relating to Twitter clients such as; 
Adium.  I'm planning to set up a Twitter account.

1. What is Adium?
2. I've read it makes Twitter, Facebook Chat, and other IM softwares more 
accessible.  Therefore, should I install Adium prior to setting up Twitter 
account?

I've reread some of the list members' previous discussion on this topic as well 
as articles on Wikipedia, CNET, and elsewhere, but admittedly, I am not well 
versed in tech vocabulary.  For many years, my knowledge about computers, 
software, and the actions performed using computers was only very 
basic...enough to open, use, save, word processing documents or emails.  As a 
client of state services, I would only learn whatever a tech person could teach 
me for the 1 or 2 hours the state was willing to pay.  So, the sessions never 
went beyond very remedial material.  So, I also welcome any suggestions on 
resources out there.  For lack of a better term, if there is a "Computers For 
Dummies" or sites, books, podcasts so that I may continue to be educated.  I 
know having this Mac, there is a world of possibilities for me out there.  I've 
probably only scratched the surface on 3% of what I and my Mac can do so I want 
to learn as much as I can so I can become as well versed as so many of you are. 
 I respected so many of you with your knowledge, but often, I am so overwhelmed 
with the information I read.

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Re: making event registration sites accessible for screen readers

2009-10-27 Thread Israel

Thank you Chris!  Also, wonderful point.  The woman did say she not  
only wants examples of sites, but the reasons, practices, or  
considerations taken to make them accessible.

Israel Antonio
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On Oct 27, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

>
> It might be better to point to some best practices. Just because a  
> site
> is or is not accessible won't give much of a hint as to why. Here is  
> one
> list I use:
>
> http://dev.aol.com/accessibility/requirements/
>
> a more official list is here:
>
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/#guidelines
>
> I also like running my pages through Worldspace which has a free  
> scanner
> here:
>
> http://worldspace.deque.com/wsservice/eval/checkCompliance.jsp
>
> it catches a lot of the basic problems.
>
> CB
>
> Israel wrote:
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I was just contacted by a woman who is the Executive Director for an
>> organization specializing in adaptive sports for the blind, visually
>> impaired, and physically challenged.  She is giving a presentation to
>> race organizers on how to make events more accessible and inclusive
>> for the disabled.
>>
>> Since a majority of events, 5K, 10K, marathons, triathlons, and  
>> others
>> have online registration, she wondered about how to make these sites
>> accessible to screen readers or magnification software.  The widely
>> used site is www.active.com but I am wondering if anyone on the list
>> has example of sites which are accessible and can be held up as a
>> model how to ensure these sites are accessible?  I do not know much
>> about web development or design so what are suggestions that the site
>> developer may consider to ensure screen readers/magnification  
>> programs
>> can give the user of such sites access to all aspects of a site when
>> registering for an event?
>>
>> Israel Antonio
>> Sexy Isra
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
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making event registration sites accessible for screen readers

2009-10-27 Thread Israel

Hi list,

I was just contacted by a woman who is the Executive Director for an  
organization specializing in adaptive sports for the blind, visually  
impaired, and physically challenged.  She is giving a presentation to  
race organizers on how to make events more accessible and inclusive  
for the disabled.

Since a majority of events, 5K, 10K, marathons, triathlons, and others  
have online registration, she wondered about how to make these sites  
accessible to screen readers or magnification software.  The widely  
used site is www.active.com but I am wondering if anyone on the list  
has example of sites which are accessible and can be held up as a  
model how to ensure these sites are accessible?  I do not know much  
about web development or design so what are suggestions that the site  
developer may consider to ensure screen readers/magnification programs  
can give the user of such sites access to all aspects of a site when  
registering for an event?

Israel Antonio
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Re: -- SPAM -- Re: not receiving emails in Mail

2009-10-21 Thread Israel

So David, just so I am understanding you correctly, are you saying to  
turn off spam filter by logging on to my internet service provider's  
site and making the changes there?

I just went into Mail preferences and check my junk mail setting.   
Junk mail filter on is checked.  I am thinking of unchecking it and  
see if that helps any.

Israel Antonio
Sexy Isra




On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:41 PM, David McLean wrote:

>
> I'm using Cox Cable and when I first signed up for this list I was
> having the same problem.  I discovered that everything from this list
> was going to the spam folder and the only way I could look at the
> messages was to go to the Cox website.
> Once I   turned the spam filter off I  started getting the messages to
> my inbox. 
> On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Israel,
>> I have been experiencing the same problem plus about every 90 days or
>> so iget a $ pot full of emails that people said they have sent. Since
>> Bellsouth.net got bought out by AT&T this has been happening. Now  
>> At&t
>> just got together with yahoo and the problem is getting more
>> intermittent.
>> There tech  support  at AT&T leaves much to be desired! LOL I have  
>> all
>> junk filters turned off.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>> Talk soon
>> Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019
>>
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Israel wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> Has anyone else been having issues not receiving all emails when
>>> using
>>> Mail?
>>>
>>> 1. When I open Mail, I hear the "ding" sound informing me I have a
>>> new
>>> email yet when checking my in box, there isn't a new message there.
>>> This happens a few times a week where I hear the new message sound
>>> but
>>> it isn't in my in box.  I'll check sent and trash boxes in case they
>>> went there, but no they don't.  When I bought my Mac, my local Apple
>>> Store moved all emails from my PC to the Mac leaving them in the  
>>> same
>>> mailboxes in which they were in on my PC.  In, Sent, and deleted.
>>> That means I have six mailboxes.  3 for my Mac mail activities and
>>> the
>>> 3 Apple Store experts moved from my PC.  So, I even check those
>>> mailboxes but the supposed new emails I just received are not there
>>> either.
>>>
>>> 2. The way I have concluded I am not receiving emails is that as  
>>> part
>>> of my Facebook account, by default, I get sent emails on every FB
>>> notification such as; friend request, comments on my status, FB
>>> email,
>>> etc.  I noticed that three times in three months, I did not receive
>>> an
>>> email about FB notification and found out when logging on to the  
>>> site
>>> that in fact I had a friend request or response to a status update.
>>>
>>> I had hoped both these were bugs which would be fixed after I
>>> installed Snow Leopard which I did ten days ago.  Yet, since last
>>> night, I have noticed that if I don't check email for an hour,  
>>> then I
>>> do check, I'll see that I have 3 new messages from FB.  Yet, logging
>>> on to FB, I find out that in the same hour, I should have been sent
>>> ten email notifications.  Normally, I would chalk this up to an FB
>>> issue, but the fact that I frequently hear the sound for new emails
>>> and don't receive new messages makes me think this is a Mail  
>>> problem.
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Israel Antonio
>>> Sexy Isra
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: not receiving emails in Mail

2009-10-21 Thread Israel

I use ATT too.  Didn't even think of them as the source of this.  The  
last time I tried getting help from their support, I had to  
continuously explain that I couldn't see the screen nor use the  
physical mouse yet the person kept insisting I tell him what images  
are on screen or to drag an item or two with my mouse.  So I try to  
avoid their help as much as I can.

Israel Antonio
Sexy Isra

On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote:

>
> Hi Israel,
> I have been experiencing the same problem plus about every 90 days or
> so iget a $ pot full of emails that people said they have sent. Since
> Bellsouth.net got bought out by AT&T this has been happening. Now At&t
> just got together with yahoo and the problem is getting more
> intermittent.
> There tech  support  at AT&T leaves much to be desired! LOL I have all
> junk filters turned off.
>
> Any thoughts?
> Talk soon
> Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019
>
>
> On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Israel wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> Has anyone else been having issues not receiving all emails when  
>> using
>> Mail?
>>
>> 1. When I open Mail, I hear the "ding" sound informing me I have a  
>> new
>> email yet when checking my in box, there isn't a new message there.
>> This happens a few times a week where I hear the new message sound  
>> but
>> it isn't in my in box.  I'll check sent and trash boxes in case they
>> went there, but no they don't.  When I bought my Mac, my local Apple
>> Store moved all emails from my PC to the Mac leaving them in the same
>> mailboxes in which they were in on my PC.  In, Sent, and deleted.
>> That means I have six mailboxes.  3 for my Mac mail activities and  
>> the
>> 3 Apple Store experts moved from my PC.  So, I even check those
>> mailboxes but the supposed new emails I just received are not there
>> either.
>>
>> 2. The way I have concluded I am not receiving emails is that as part
>> of my Facebook account, by default, I get sent emails on every FB
>> notification such as; friend request, comments on my status, FB  
>> email,
>> etc.  I noticed that three times in three months, I did not receive  
>> an
>> email about FB notification and found out when logging on to the site
>> that in fact I had a friend request or response to a status update.
>>
>> I had hoped both these were bugs which would be fixed after I
>> installed Snow Leopard which I did ten days ago.  Yet, since last
>> night, I have noticed that if I don't check email for an hour, then I
>> do check, I'll see that I have 3 new messages from FB.  Yet, logging
>> on to FB, I find out that in the same hour, I should have been sent
>> ten email notifications.  Normally, I would chalk this up to an FB
>> issue, but the fact that I frequently hear the sound for new emails
>> and don't receive new messages makes me think this is a Mail problem.
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Israel Antonio
>> Sexy Isra
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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not receiving emails in Mail

2009-10-21 Thread Israel

Hi list,

Has anyone else been having issues not receiving all emails when using  
Mail?

1. When I open Mail, I hear the "ding" sound informing me I have a new  
email yet when checking my in box, there isn't a new message there.   
This happens a few times a week where I hear the new message sound but  
it isn't in my in box.  I'll check sent and trash boxes in case they  
went there, but no they don't.  When I bought my Mac, my local Apple  
Store moved all emails from my PC to the Mac leaving them in the same  
mailboxes in which they were in on my PC.  In, Sent, and deleted.   
That means I have six mailboxes.  3 for my Mac mail activities and the  
3 Apple Store experts moved from my PC.  So, I even check those  
mailboxes but the supposed new emails I just received are not there  
either.

2. The way I have concluded I am not receiving emails is that as part  
of my Facebook account, by default, I get sent emails on every FB  
notification such as; friend request, comments on my status, FB email,  
etc.  I noticed that three times in three months, I did not receive an  
email about FB notification and found out when logging on to the site  
that in fact I had a friend request or response to a status update.

I had hoped both these were bugs which would be fixed after I  
installed Snow Leopard which I did ten days ago.  Yet, since last  
night, I have noticed that if I don't check email for an hour, then I  
do check, I'll see that I have 3 new messages from FB.  Yet, logging  
on to FB, I find out that in the same hour, I should have been sent  
ten email notifications.  Normally, I would chalk this up to an FB  
issue, but the fact that I frequently hear the sound for new emails  
and don't receive new messages makes me think this is a Mail problem.   
Any thoughts?

Israel Antonio
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Re: my 2 months with a mac

2009-10-21 Thread Israel

Hi list,

I just wanted to agree with Anne.  Web rotor is the thing I use most  
and love it!  I made the switch to Mac in June of this year and found  
that while I run into some problems which are annoying and some times  
frustrating, VO and safari have been easier for me than the years of  
window screen readers.  A major problem was on certain newspaper or  
news sites, pressing comman+ VO+ h would not take me to the next  
heading.  Instead I'd get a message, "safari is busy"  which would  
last some times as long as two minutes.  I installed snow leopard ten  
days ago and now I don't have that issue at all.  I have other minor  
annoying ones, but not that.

I started using dos in 1993 and was introduced to windows in 1996.  I  
toyed with it but much prefered dos until I was forced to make the  
full time switch to windows in 2000.  I made the cold turkey switch to  
Mac this year and just recently read that a major obstacles for  
switchers from windows to Mac is the tab key usage.  Yet, all those  
years of using windows, I actually never used the tab key to move  
around a site.  I guess I never even realized I could have until read  
NFB's article review on VO.  BTW, thank you to NFB.  Their review and  
response to the firestorm post VO review was one of the final straws  
which helped me decide Mac was the way to go!!

Israel Antonio
Sexy Isra

On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

>
> Hello Donna,
>
> There are several commands that make web-browsing easier on the Mac.
>
> First, you have the Web Rotor (VO-U), which you can use to look at
> headers, links, auto web spots, and so on. I use the Headers menu when
> reading articles from New SCientist. I go to the Headers menu and type
> "1" which takes me directly to the start of the article. I press VO-
> Space to go to that header, then VO-A to read the whole article.
>
> You then have the Item Chooser (VO-I). This is very useful if you know
> some of the text you're looking for. Just type a few letters and the
> number of items in the menu is reduced drastically to those containing
> the letters you've entered. Once again, VO-Space will put you in the
> right field.
>
> Then you can set a short-cut to switch between DOM and Groups mode.
> For normal purposes, I prefer Groups mode, but for reading articles,
> DOM works much better as it reads all links where they appear in the
> text, whereas Groups mode puts all the links within one group at the
> end of that group which often adds up to complete nonsense.
>
> You then have all the other navigation features such as jumping from
> header to header, visited link to visited link, etc.
>
> The habit that all previous Windows users have to break is that of
> tabbing around all the time. When you first start using VO, you should
> forget that the Tab key exists and learn to live without it. Once
> you're familiar with the Mac and VO, tabbing can be very useful, but
> at the beginning, it's a great way of getting nowhere!
>
> I've never been a Windows user, so I'm no good at answering questions
> that relate to Windows, but I've been using Macs for around 13 years
> (I used OutSpoken before VoiceOver came out). I'm a translator, so I
> have to use the Internet for research all the time and I find it very
> quick and easy. I have no sight at all, so I'm not cheating by looking
> at the screen!
>
> I hope this brief explanation is of use to you.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
> >


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Re: NeoOffice problems when opening files

2009-10-21 Thread Israel

Jean-Christophe

Thank you very much for this response to my question.  I know it was  
sent a while back, but I've been so busy working on a theatre piece  
attempting to meet a deadline which I just met this week that I've not  
had the chance to view the site and study as I wanted until now.   
Again, I truly am grateful!
Israel Antonio
Sexy Isra


On Oct 1, 2009, at 6:59 PM, JC Helary wrote:

>
> On 2 oct. 2009, at 00:51, Israel wrote:
>> When I worked in windows, I was most comfortable typing and saving
>> files in Word Perfect.  More recently I used MS Word and saved my
>> files as RTF to share with friends, but when switching to Mac, I  
>> moved
>> all my Word Perfect files to the new Mac.  I was told I could open,
>> edit, print, and so forth these WP files with NeoOffice.
>
> From what I read here, NeoOffice does not offer support for VO.
> You need OpenOffice.org, which is equivalent software-wise (it is the
> same code base with a few things added to NeoOffice, like "Services"
> access).
>
> The download link is here:
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/
>
>
>
>
> Jean-Christophe Helary
>
>
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Re: viewing suggestions in spell checker

2009-10-05 Thread Israel

This is another reason I am so happy I joined this list.  Donna asked  
a similar question which I was thinking of asking too.  Anna offered a  
wrinkle/suggestion which I already played with and found to be easier  
for me and Brett helped explained the spell checker a bit better to  
help me make sense of it.

One quick question.  Is there a command while in spell checker if one  
wishes to read the line or sentence in which the misspelled word  
appears...without getting out of spell checker?

Israel Antonio
Sexy Isra
On Oct 5, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Brett Campbell wrote:

>
> I apologize if this is common knowledge.  I just thought I'd mention
> that I like to use the command, shift, semi colin.  This brings up a
> full dialogue that works quickly for me.  VO will highlight the first
> misspelled word and you VO down arrow twice to see the suggestions
> table.  Hit enter on the desired suggestion.  I've experienced that
> sometimes the suggestions table has the word ready to hit enter on,
> and other times I have to interact with the table.
> Exploring the spell check dialogue, one will find ignore and learn.
> The learn button will add your chosen spelling to the dictionary.  You
> can hit escape anytime to exit spell check.  If you are presented with
> a misspelled word that you're unsure of, hitting escape will land the
> VO cursor at that word in your document., so you can edit from that
> point.
> This spell check feature is available most anywhere there is an edit
> box, Text Edit, Mail, Safari etc.
> Nothing new here, just thought I'd elaborate in case someone reading
> this is new to the feature.
>
> Brett
>
> On Oct 5, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>
>>
>> HI Donna,
>>
>> For one brief shining moment, just before Snow Leopard, I could press
>> Command-Semicolon, then VO-Shift-M in just about any program and  
>> get a
>> list of misspelled words. It was great. but with Snow Leopard,
>> pressing VO-Shift-M doesn't work in most places anymore. That means
>> the only way to see suggestions, as far as I know, is through the
>> spell check dialog accessed with Command-Colon. The suggestions are  
>> in
>> a table, so you can move to them with VO-Command-T.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Anna
>>
>>>
>
>
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NeoOffice problems when opening files

2009-10-01 Thread Israel

Dear Everyone,

When I worked in windows, I was most comfortable typing and saving  
files in Word Perfect.  More recently I used MS Word and saved my  
files as RTF to share with friends, but when switching to Mac, I moved  
all my Word Perfect files to the new Mac.  I was told I could open,  
edit, print, and so forth these WP files with NeoOffice.  A sighted  
friend tested it out and was able to open, edit, and print out a test  
page.  Yet, when I try to open files while using Voiceover to help me  
navigate, it does not work.  Some times, VO simply speaks gibberish.   
Mostly, VO announces that NeoOffice has new window, but then I'm left  
with a blank screen and when I try to move VO curser in any direction,  
I get a "bonk" sound.  I've tried opening files through Text Edit,  
Pages, and the documents folder in the dock.  I've also gone to the  
applications table and opened NeoOffice then go to my documents table  
to open a file, but nothing has worked.  What am I doing wrong?  Thank  
you everyone

Israel Antonio
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Re: VO and screenwriting software

2009-09-29 Thread Israel

Thank you Esther!  I remember reading Final Draft 8.0 had been  
released.  I always found that FD 7.13, which I own for the PC was  
very accessible, but when I switched to Mac, this summer, I learned  
from an Apple Store employee and someone from Apple Accessibility,  
that FD was not completely accessible with VO.  It was Apple  
Accessibility who first introduced me to Montage and I was hopeful  
until hearing from Hollywood screenwriters about how it lacks from FD  
but a huge benefit has always been how Mariner Software is very public  
on how they make their software with accessibility to the blind/ 
visually impaired very much in mind!  Again, thank you Esther.  This  
is a great help.

As a playwright/screenwriter, I continue to hope for even more  
accessibility advancements and hope if others on this list come across  
accessibility advancements, he/she will pass it along.  Israel Antonio
Sexy Isra



On Sep 29, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Esther wrote:

>
> Hi Israel,
>
> This is a bit late, but here are two pieces of information related to
> your query about screenwriting software.  Final Draft 8.0 was released
> in April, according to the Apple Software pages:
>
> http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/productivity_tools/finaldraft.html
>
> Mariner Software is running a 3-day sale that ends today with 35% off
> everything.  Use the coupon code "Lean" when you check out if you want
> to get Montage.
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> Israel wrote:
>
>>
>> Thank you Justin and James.  I've done some early research on your
>> suggestion.  Thank you for the reply
>>
>> Israel Antonio
>> Sexy Isra
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2009, at 2:29 PM, James & Nash wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Just to add to Justin's post, while you'll have a bit of a learning
>>> curve as Justin has pointed out, you can use Latex to format pretty
>>> much how you like. Latex' power lies in itn its ability to format,
>>> deal with and separate content and structure. Once you've got your
>>> Screen play content writen you will be able to format it to your
>>> heart's content if the package's defaults do not fit the bill.
>>>
>>> Take care
>>>
>>> J
>>> On 25 Sep 2009, at 20:24, Justin Harford wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Probably better go out and google.  If you end up finding that all
>>>> the
>>>> graphical apps don't work well however, you might consider the
>>>> screenplay package class for LaTeX.  You might experience a bit  
>>>> of a
>>>> learning curve at the beginning, but it might be worth it.  I  
>>>> looked
>>>> at the manual screenplay.pdf file and it looks as though the  
>>>> package
>>>> was written with the Academy of of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences
>>>> in
>>>> mind.
>>>>
>>>> Justin Harford
>>>> On Sep 25, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Israel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone!
>>>>>
>>>>> I am wondering does anyone use a screenwriting software with VO?
>>>>> Which software is accessible?
>>>>>
>>>>> All the playwrights and screenwriters I know insist on Final Draft
>>>>> or
>>>>> Movie Magic- the top two Hollywood standards.  After much
>>>>> research, I
>>>>> bought Final Draft 7.13 and it worked fine when I was using my PC
>>>>> but
>>>>> upon buying my Mac, I learned that most aspects of FD and MM for
>>>>> that
>>>>> fact are accessible with VO except the actual part where I would
>>>>> write/
>>>>> edit my screenplays.
>>>>>
>>>>> Montage by Mariner Sotware makes it a point to state that it is
>>>>> 100%
>>>>> accessible to the blind and visually impaired, but various
>>>>> Hollywood
>>>>> screenwriters including John August give them credit for at least
>>>>> trying to compete with the Big 2 but that the software does not
>>>>> always
>>>>> format your scripts properly as Final Draft or Movie Magic do.  I
>>>>> know
>>>>> Final Draft released a version 8 a few months back, but I've not
>>>>> been
>>>>> able to find out if it is accessible with VO.  So, if anyone knows
>>>>> or
>>>>> has suggestions on screenwriting software which does properly
>>>>> format
>>>>> and is very much accessible with VO, I'd appreciate it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Israel Antonio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: VO and screenwriting software

2009-09-26 Thread Israel

Thank you Justin and James.  I've done some early research on your  
suggestion.  Thank you for the reply

Israel Antonio
Sexy Isra



On Sep 25, 2009, at 2:29 PM, James & Nash wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Just to add to Justin's post, while you'll have a bit of a learning
> curve as Justin has pointed out, you can use Latex to format pretty
> much how you like. Latex' power lies in itn its ability to format,
> deal with and separate content and structure. Once you've got your
> Screen play content writen you will be able to format it to your
> heart's content if the package's defaults do not fit the bill.
>
> Take care
>
> J
> On 25 Sep 2009, at 20:24, Justin Harford wrote:
>
>>
>> Probably better go out and google.  If you end up finding that all  
>> the
>> graphical apps don't work well however, you might consider the
>> screenplay package class for LaTeX.  You might experience a bit of a
>> learning curve at the beginning, but it might be worth it.  I looked
>> at the manual screenplay.pdf file and it looks as though the package
>> was written with the Academy of of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences  
>> in
>> mind.
>>
>> Justin Harford
>> On Sep 25, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Israel wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Everyone!
>>>
>>> I am wondering does anyone use a screenwriting software with VO?
>>> Which software is accessible?
>>>
>>> All the playwrights and screenwriters I know insist on Final Draft  
>>> or
>>> Movie Magic- the top two Hollywood standards.  After much  
>>> research, I
>>> bought Final Draft 7.13 and it worked fine when I was using my PC  
>>> but
>>> upon buying my Mac, I learned that most aspects of FD and MM for  
>>> that
>>> fact are accessible with VO except the actual part where I would
>>> write/
>>> edit my screenplays.
>>>
>>> Montage by Mariner Sotware makes it a point to state that it is 100%
>>> accessible to the blind and visually impaired, but various Hollywood
>>> screenwriters including John August give them credit for at least
>>> trying to compete with the Big 2 but that the software does not
>>> always
>>> format your scripts properly as Final Draft or Movie Magic do.  I
>>> know
>>> Final Draft released a version 8 a few months back, but I've not  
>>> been
>>> able to find out if it is accessible with VO.  So, if anyone knows  
>>> or
>>> has suggestions on screenwriting software which does properly format
>>> and is very much accessible with VO, I'd appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Israel Antonio
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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VO and screenwriting software

2009-09-25 Thread Israel

Hi Everyone!

I am wondering does anyone use a screenwriting software with VO?   
Which software is accessible?

All the playwrights and screenwriters I know insist on Final Draft or  
Movie Magic- the top two Hollywood standards.  After much research, I  
bought Final Draft 7.13 and it worked fine when I was using my PC but  
upon buying my Mac, I learned that most aspects of FD and MM for that  
fact are accessible with VO except the actual part where I would write/ 
edit my screenplays.

Montage by Mariner Sotware makes it a point to state that it is 100%  
accessible to the blind and visually impaired, but various Hollywood  
screenwriters including John August give them credit for at least  
trying to compete with the Big 2 but that the software does not always  
format your scripts properly as Final Draft or Movie Magic do.  I know  
Final Draft released a version 8 a few months back, but I've not been  
able to find out if it is accessible with VO.  So, if anyone knows or  
has suggestions on screenwriting software which does properly format  
and is very much accessible with VO, I'd appreciate it.

Israel Antonio

















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Re: Oppose. Should have introduced myself

2009-09-24 Thread Israel
Welcome Kevin!

I just joined this group on Monday.  I already have learn a few  
tricks.  I know when I get stuck I will turn to these intelligent much  
more experienced Mac users to save me.  I converted from windows in  
June and in those three months I have moments of bewilderment and  
frustration causing me to question my decision then it is soon  
followed by an experience where I realize I now have access to certain  
programs or sites I never did prior to switching.  For the longest  
time, I struggled in windows since I used Window Eyes and only one  
other person I knew did too.  Often, my sighted friends would tell me  
about a site or feature they insisted I had to use but I coul never.   
I'd explain my limitations with screen readers and they could never  
understand it usually until they visited and sat with me as I played  
on the computer.  They'd get even more frustrated than I ever was.   
Yet, after two solid years of reading, interviewing, and asking Mac  
users, hearing about accessibility advancements, and non stop  
listening to podcasts or blogs by blind users who switched as well as  
sending emails to Apple Accessibility and always getting instant  
replies, I knew this was the place for me.  I took the blind leap and  
didn't even have a backup.  I took my PC and donated to my nephew b/c  
I trusted in my learning curve, friends, this group, and Apple.


In just a short three months, I feel more a part of the world and with  
many of my friends owning Macs, I can even turn to them although they  
are sighted and they turn on VO and play with it too just to better  
understand what I am doing in case they ever need to help.

Israel Antonio


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> Dear All,
> My name is Kevin Gibbs and I should have introduced myself.  I'm  
> new to Mac Visionaries.  My wife's interest in an iPhone, combined  
> with the appearance of Snow Leopard, are just two of the reasons why  
> I've taken an interest in switching from Windows to Mac.  My wife is  
> a long time sighted Mac user who has been trying to convert me for  
> years.  Unfortunately, until SL came along, I wasn't convinced I  
> could function on a Mac.  Now, while I'm still examining the  
> specifics of certain operational situations peculiar to the music  
> business, I've decided I can't wait to become a Mac user.  It still  
> may take me a minute to actually cough up the dough.  But I  
> definitely will.  Meanwhile, I plan to lurk around here and learn as  
> much as I can.
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
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VO curser suddenly skipping over one edit box on Facebook

2009-09-23 Thread Israel

Hi everyone!

I am a new member to this group.  In fact, I just received my  
confirmation this morning.  I've already learned a few tips and tricks  
by reading the emails I've received.  I am looking forward to so much  
more especially since I just converted in June 2009 to Apple Mac from  
Windows and the third party screen reader worlds.

I am running Leopard but have decided to purchase Snow Leopard later  
today.  I am wondering if anyone else uses Facebook and whether you  
have run into a problem which I started having a week ago Monday.   
With a few exceptions, most items seem to be labeled properly on FB  
and I can navigate the site and my friends' walls, but suddenly, VO  
skips over the control edit box where I would normally type my status  
update.  VO also skips the edit box used to post on a friend's wall.   
VO recognizes and takes me to all other edit boxes such as "search",  
"write something" or "share button"  A sighted friend said the site  
looks the same.  The "what's on your mind" edit box is still there but  
he noticed VO curser gets to the link just before it and on the next  
press, it skips it completely to the "share button"  Arrowing up,  
down, left, or right, VO curser always skips it.  I can access every  
other edit box except that one.  Again, I've been on FB for five  
months and this is the first time this has happened.

Any ideas?

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