Excel 2016 for Mac, reading row and column titles

['Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries]

This sounds like this might be kind of a long shot, but I am desperately
hoping that there might be a way, using Voiceover on the Mac along with
Excel 2016, to have Voiceover read column titles while navigating across the
columns while navigation is down many rows deep into the spreadsheet.

 

I had thought that I had read that this might be accomplished by turning
column titles into headings, but have either not done this correctly, or may
have not done it at all.

 

So, any Excel experts who may have managed to accomplish this daunting task?

Sure would appreciate any tips, and thanks.

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Reading mail Efficiently with Sierra

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Hello.

 

It seems very beneficial to be able to skim within a mail message, moving
paragraph by paragraph.

There seems to be a discrepancy between what is said using Keyboard Help and
what is listed in the keyboard commands section of online help.

The command in question is Control Option Shift Page down.

When turning on Keyboard help, this command says, Go right one page.

Yet, in the Online help under text, this same  command says Read next
paragraph.

 

When reading mail, when using the Go to Linked Item, Control Option J, this
command seems to work reliably to read paragraph by paragraph.

However, when opening a message with Enter or Command O, this command does
not work at all.

This is with mail in classic view, I do not know if it might act differently
in standard view..

I wonder why the difference?

Also, I wonder if there might be a way to add this command to the Quick Nav
rotor?

 

I would just like to find a reliable way to quickly read through a
significant number of email messages with the fewest keystrokes.

Thanks for any observations or tips.   

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Garage Band 10, Quantize a MIDI Track

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Hello.

Coming to grips with the latest Garage Band in Sierra, I am wondering if
there is a hotkey to immediately quantize a track after recording it.

I have looked through lists of hotkeys but have not found anything so far.

Thanks for any guidance.

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RE: New iMac, A Bit slow and Sluggish

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This is a spinning hard drive, but a brand new Mac.
Fortunately, as others have suggested, it settled itself in after a day or so 
and is now running lightning fast.
Thanks.

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:44 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iMac, A Bit slow and Sluggish

What kind of disk are you using, SSD or regular rotating/. Also is this a new 
IMAC or a used older model?

Thank you

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 9:55 AM, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> I had tested out the $999 21 inch iMac running Sierra in the Apple Store, and 
> it had run with impressive speed and responsiveness.
> Applications opened quickly, web pages loaded quickly, and there was no lag 
> or "busy signals" at all.
> I purchased the unit, and set it up with my Apple ID and iCloud account, 
> there were a couple of software updates, so the machine restarted twice.
> 
> It is not as fast ore responsive as in the Apple store.  There are occasional 
> pauses or delays.
> 
> It is interesting, I have a 3 year old MacBook Air that is just as fast as 
> the day it was purchased.
> Yet, this new iMac is not quite running as smoothly as I would have expected, 
> especially after having seen it running so beautifully in the Apple store.
> 
> Any suggestions at all for tweaking this Mac to run as might be expected?
> Thanks a lot.
> 
> 
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New iMac, A Bit slow and Sluggish

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Hello.
I had tested out the $999 21 inch iMac running Sierra in the Apple Store, and 
it had run with impressive speed and responsiveness.
Applications opened quickly, web pages loaded quickly, and there was no lag or 
"busy signals" at all.
I purchased the unit, and set it up with my Apple ID and iCloud account, there 
were a couple of software updates, so the machine restarted twice.

It is not as fast ore responsive as in the Apple store.  There are occasional 
pauses or delays.

It is interesting, I have a 3 year old MacBook Air that is just as fast as the 
day it was purchased.
Yet, this new iMac is not quite running as smoothly as I would have expected, 
especially after having seen it running so beautifully in the Apple store.

Any suggestions at all for tweaking this Mac to run as might be expected?
Thanks a lot.

  

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The Latest Update to Office 16 for Mac

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Hello, I am wondering if anyone has had any luck with Option Right Arrow 
reading word by word in a document?
Option left arrow seems to read prior word just fine, but I cannot get the 
option right arrow to read.
However, option shift right arrow does read highlighted text.
Thanks for your thoughts.

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Cannon Scanner and Mac Mini

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Hello, I have a Macbook Air and a Mac Mini  both running Yosemite.
When I connect the Cannon scanner to the Macbook Air, , and go to printers and 
faxes, I can add it with no problem and it works beautifully.
However, on the Mac Mini, it just literally does not show up at all, I have 
tried all available USB ports.
The scanner has no on/off button, and I made certain that it was unlocked.
It’s just not showing up at all.
Any suggestions would sure be appreciated.
Thanks.

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office preview for mac, Reading by Word??

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Hello,
In the latest Office Preview for Mac, I cannot get Option Right Arrow to 
read word by word.

Option Left Arrow does seem to be reading prior words.
I'm just wondering if this is specific to my system or has anyone tried this 
out?

Thanks.


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Office for Mac 2016 Preview

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Hello to the list.

I have just now downloaded and installed this Microsoft office for mac 2016 
preview,  and what a bitter disappointment this is so far.

Voiceover does not seem to read any of the text in my preliminary try out of 
the Microsoft Word application, everything else seems to read just fine.

I know it’s an early preview, but it’s still shocking and truly hideous if 
Voiceover will not work with 2016 Office for mac.

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Using Numbers for Simple Multiplication

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Hello to the list.
I may be missing something very basic about concepts for using Numbers.
With two adjacent numbers, either in a row or a column, I cannot get the 
Product function in numbers to multiply the entries.
I’ve tried selecting the numbers, but that did not seem to work, but placing 
the cursor in an adjacent blank cell, I went to the insert menu, then formulas, 
and tried both Enter and VO  Spacebar on Product. 

Clearly this must be operator error, so any hints about performing basic  
formula calculations would be really helpful.
Thanks.

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Sorting Data in Numbers

[Jim Fettgather]

This one really has me stumped.
After highlighting a row of numbers to be sorted in either a row or column of 
numbers, then stop interacting with the table and VO left arrow to the 
formatter group, because this seems to be where the sort options are located, 
no matter what I select, the sort now option is dimmed.
Evem doing VO Shift M, and then selecting sort options, I am immediately 
returned back to the spreadsheet.
Is there a hidden secrent  to be able to sort data in Numbers?
Thanks.

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Re: Yosemite: Continuing Curiosities in Spotlight Search

['Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries]

Another completely strange occurrence, I now just updated a 2014 Macbook Air to 
Yosemite, and spotlight searches for Starbucks turns up everything, Bing, 
Wikipedia, map results, everything you would expect.
The computer on which there were no results whatsoever was a 2012 Mac Mini.
Very interesting.


From: Tim Kilburn 
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 10:09 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Yosemite: Continuing Curiosities in Spotlight Search

Hi, 

Hmmm.  I did the same as you entering “Starbucks” into my Entry field.  The 
first result was your message, then I could arrow down through various other 
references to Starbucks that it found.  Interestingly enough, I had more than a 
dozen references to Starbucks in various eMails and no others on my computer.  
Another interesting thing is that it did not display any Internet or Wikipedia 
results, which is likely false as I would venture to say that Starbucks should 
show up quite a bit around the Net.  Probably some setting I need to manipulate.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 

  On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:51 AM, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  According to documentation, performing a search term is Spotlight should 
bring up Wikipedia entries, map data, possible dictionary definitions, and a 
host of results.

  I was able to verify that typing in the term Starbucks into Spotlight brought 
no results, and the message appeared visually on the screen as well: No results.

  All checkboxes are checked in all 21 categories in Spotlight preferences, 
disk permissions have been performed, and so on,

  so I’m really curious as to why some terms bring up absolutely no results.
  This does not appear to be an accessibility issue, just some kind of 
performance issue or quirk.
  Thanks for any thoughts.

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Yosemite: Continuing Curiosities in Spotlight Search

['Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries]

According to documentation, performing a search term is Spotlight should bring 
up Wikipedia entries, map data, possible dictionary definitions, and a host of 
results.

I was able to verify that typing in the term Starbucks into Spotlight brought 
no results, and the message appeared visually on the screen as well: No results.

All checkboxes are checked in all 21 categories in Spotlight preferences, disk 
permissions have been performed, and so on,

so I’m really curious as to why some terms bring up absolutely no results.
This does not appear to be an accessibility issue, just some kind of 
performance issue or quirk.
Thanks for any thoughts.

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Re: yosemite and spotlight search

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I did a bit of research on this issue of Spotlight search is in Yosemite, and 
one suggestion was made to delete a preferences file, Also to somehow reindex 
the spotlight search capabilities. I would have to do more research to find out 
about the details of either of these possible solutions. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
> 
> I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having this issue. Jim, do you also 
> here something to the effect of either button or image? When I have attempted 
> to use spotlight in its current iteration, I get everything but what I'm 
> looking for. I have been raked over the coals on this list for complaining to 
> Apple for fear there are those who will lose their accessibility. At this 
> particular juncture in my opinion they lost an integral part of what the OS 
> was supposed to mean. I have enough vision to be able to see the screen, yet 
> it does no good to use my key commands to get where I need to go. Apple is 
> more concerned about aesthetics then they are functionality with reference to 
> how their current OS works. If we don't ask questions, stand up for  what we 
> need we will ultimately lose what we have. Those who are  currently taking me 
> to task now will be truly whining.. The difference is, you know me, they 
> don't.
> Pam Francis .
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2014 10:05 AM, "'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries" 
>>  wrote:
>> I have a quick question about the way that Spotlight is supposed to work in 
>> Yosemite.
>>  
>> As far as I have been able to read, you should be able to get web results 
>> from Bing, using Spotlight.
>>  
>> So, pressing Command Spacebar, which brings up the edit box, and then typing 
>> in a search term, using the down arrow key produces absolutely no results.
>>  
>> Results are indeed displayed for documents and email, but I am hoping that 
>> there might be an easy way to get Bing results  displayed in Spotlight, if 
>> this is supposed to be the way that it works.
>> Thanks.
>>  
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yosemite and spotlight search

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I have a quick question about the way that Spotlight is supposed to work in 
Yosemite.

As far as I have been able to read, you should be able to get web results from 
Bing, using Spotlight.

So, pressing Command Spacebar, which brings up the edit box, and then typing in 
a search term, using the down arrow key produces absolutely no results.

Results are indeed displayed for documents and email, but I am hoping that 
there might be an easy way to get Bing results  displayed in Spotlight, if this 
is supposed to be the way that it works.
Thanks.

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Re: Mail Busy

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Turns out, a monitor had become disconnected  from the Mac Mini, everything was 
running terribly slow, now that the monitor is connected, Mail is working 
great, along with everything else so far in Yosemite.
Thanks.

From: Brandt Steenkamp 
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:26 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Mail Busy

Hmm, that’s a new one. I will ask around, anyone have any ideas besides the 
obvious one of rebooting the machine?


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  On 17 Oct 2014, at 8:00 PM, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
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  This is a strange phenomenon.
  After installing Yosemite, after launching mail, it is perpetually busy.
  And I mean, it stays busy.
  Absolutely no way to read or compose mail, it’s simply stuck on busy.

  I sure don’t know how to fix this one.


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Mail Busy

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This is a strange phenomenon.
After installing Yosemite, after launching mail, it is perpetually busy.
And I mean, it stays busy.
Absolutely no way to read or compose mail, it’s simply stuck on busy.

I sure don’t know how to fix this one.

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Re: Safari and Arrow keys

['Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries]

When using up and down arrow keys in Safari, it seems like the 
syncronization is not exactly precise to where the voiceover cursor is 
located.
Also, shouldn't there be a hotkey in Safari, with this new functionality, to 
read next paragraph?

I could not seem to get this to work, so any observations would be welcome.


-Original Message- 
From: David Griffith

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 3:51 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Safari and Arrow keys

I notice from Apple Vis that there is a claim that a major benefit of the 
upgrade to 10.10 is the ability to navigate and read and select using normal 
arrow keys in Safari.


I just thought people should know that this has been available in Mavericks 
10.9 for quite a while now. I first noticed it sat the beginning of 
September.


Not a reason not to upgrade but if somebody wanted to stick to Mavericks 
because of the VO performance bug they should know that this is available.




David Griffith

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Re: Louis Braille translator version 3

['Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries]

So, I sure would like to know if there would be a way to use a BRF file 
generated by this software and somehow use this to create a Braille file 
using a Tiger printer?

Thanks for any insight or suggestions.



-Original Message- 
From: Greg Kearney

Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 4:01 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ; cb...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Louis Braille translator version 3

A new version of the Louis Braille translator for MacOS X has been released 
and can be downloaded from the following URL:


http://www.cbtbc.org/louis/index.php

This version now works with the latest MacOS and should work in future 
version. PLease note the instructions found on the download page for use.



Commonwealth Braille & Talking Book Cooperative
605 Robson Street, Suite 850
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Re: DVD Player for the Mac

['Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries]

Hi, I tried VLC for the Mac, and honestly, I could not figure it out, the 
interface just did not seem to make any sense to me at all.
I’ve been trying to access the titles in 3 ways from the built in DVD player.  .
1.  Going to the Go menu, arrrowing down to titles, using right arrow, 
selecting a title, and either using 1 of 3 methods, spacebar, enter, or command 
control option F5 and clicking the mouse.
Or, usint Control Shift Option M to bring up the right click menu, arrowing 
down a bit, and all the titles are listed there as well.
This is the first DVD where I have encountered this problem.
Nothing seems to work, this is driving me mad.
I would download the entire TV series from Itunes, but only season 5 is 
available.
This is just so strange.


From: Cheryl Homiak 
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 12:40 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: DVD Player for the Mac

VLC very well may work. But as far the the titles, are you going into the menus 
with vo-more and looking under the titles?



  -- 
  Cheryl 
  I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
  I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
  Then God gave me a new heart and life:
  His joy for my despairing tears! 
  And now, every day:
  "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
  The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
  his mercies never come to an end;
  they are new every morning;
  great is your faithfulness."
  (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)



On Aug 19, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:


  Hi!
  Have you tried vlc?
  Don't know if this would work but its worth a try.
  /A
  19 aug 2014 kl. 15:46 skrev Jim Fettgather :


Hi to the list.



I have run onto a situation where I have purchased a DVD, but the go

menu will not let me properly select an episode title.

No matter what I try, it keeps defaulting back to episode 1, I've

tried cursor tracking on and off, routing the mouse pointer with

control option F5 and doing a mouse click, hitting both enter or space

bar on the selected title, this is driving me nuts, I've never

encountered a DVD like this before.

There seems to be no keyboard shortcuts in DVD player to let you

advance by title.



I could sure use some suggestions on a way to get this to work

properly, or perhaps a more VO friendly DVD player.

I have tried Softcon DVD player, but I cannot seem to get the titles

list to show in that program either.



Any suggestions will sure be appreciated.



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DVD Player for the Mac

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi to the list.

I have run onto a situation where I have purchased a DVD, but the go
menu will not let me properly select an episode title.
No matter what I try, it keeps defaulting back to episode 1, I've
tried cursor tracking on and off, routing the mouse pointer with
control option F5 and doing a mouse click, hitting both enter or space
bar on the selected title, this is driving me nuts, I've never
encountered a DVD like this before.
There seems to be no keyboard shortcuts in DVD player to let you
advance by title.

I could sure use some suggestions on a way to get this to work
properly, or perhaps a more VO friendly DVD player.
I have tried Softcon DVD player, but I cannot seem to get the titles
list to show in that program either.

Any suggestions will sure be appreciated.

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Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Jim Fettgather]

I really enjoy using the Eye TV app with the iPhone because of the
good accessibility in IOS 5, but I will sure be happy in encouraging
El Gato Systems to consider accessibility in an upcoming release.

On 12/6/11, Mr. L. Alexander  wrote:
> a thought on this.
>
> If anyone is going to contact the developers, point them to mac access and
> if anything, compile a list of names of those who grant their permissions to
> support your contact to the developer. this would give extra weight to the
> case. they can contact each person if they wish for feedback or join in on
> this list to learn from us.
>
> just a thought. it's what I'd do.
>
> lew
>
>
> On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:47, Daniel Miller wrote:
>
>> I’m contacting them about it now, actually. Is the iPhone app just as
>> inaccessible? Or is that more accessible than the mac software.
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:43 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>
>> I use eye tv everyday and I do think that if more of us talked with them
>> about accessibility and show that there is demand for it Elgato might be
>> interested and even motivated enough to do something about vo
>> accessibility
>>
>> Randy Stegall
>> kc4...@aol.com
>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>
>>
>> Awesome. I wonder if Elgato would be open to accessibility suggestions? Or
>> would you say minus the guide, the app is accessible enough to use it on a
>> regular basis.
>> I really want to get rid of this Winblows box and completely switch to the
>> mac, but watching TV was my last hurdle to jump over.
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:45 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>
>> Command r starts recording.
>>
>> Randy Stegall
>> kc4...@aol.com
>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for all the input, guys. So the only thing that’s’ not accessible
>> is the guide, yet you can set up smart guides with some effort? Is there a
>> hotkey to record whatever you’re watching at any given moment?
>>
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:35 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>
>> Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions that
>> way. No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on but I
>> guess that's no different than most cable boxes.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
>> You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may believe
>> at first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart guides set up.
>> You have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity  perfect?
>>  No, but it can work.
>>
>> Randy Stegall
>> kc4...@aol.com
>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys or
>> through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up recordings
>> is not accessible.
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software available.
>> I think there used to be another one, but I can't remember it's name, and
>> can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and is almost
>> completely inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can with some
>> mucking around set up the preferences etc, but you can't use the guide,
>> and therefore you can't record shows easily.  You can however use the
>> EyeTV app for IOS, which connects to your mac, and record shows that way,
>> but not a full series only individual episodes--very annoying!
>>
>> We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you can
>> live with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can record
>> something, the files are playable from finder.  And furthermore if you
>> "show package contents" on one of the files, you can have it export to
>> .m4v and play it with iTunes, or vlc.
>>
>> Vaughn.
>> On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite or cable
>> box to watch live TV from their provider? I’ve done this with Windows
>> Media Center with great success, but wondered if there’s any way to do it
>> with Macs. I know there are TV tuner cards that are compatible, but I’m
>> not sure of the accessibility of said software that’s included with the
>> cards, and don’t want to spend th

Re: ChromeVox is now on the Chrome Web Store!

[Jim Fettgather]

I'm not sure why this might be, but on the opening Chrome page, I
could not to get speech to work at all. The moment I pressed Control T
to open a new tab, after typing in a web address, everything worked as
expected, in fact, better than expected.  Thank you for the tip.



On 10/4/11, Kevin Chao  wrote:
> Which version of Chrome are you running> GO to Chrome Menu>About and
> copy that info and paste it into an email message. Before installing
> ChromeVox from Chrome Web Store, did you uninstall the previous
> version?
> Omnibar: Chrome://extensions/
> TAB to uninstall, RETURN, and OK.
> now, you can install ChromeVox from Chrome Web Store.
>
> Kevin
>
> On 10/4/11, Jim Fettgather  wrote:
>> I had downloaded and installed Chrome, have gone to the Chrome store,
>> and installed Chromebox, but when starting Chrome, and turning off
>> Voiceover, still no speech.
>>
>> I just get the typical bong sound when using Control option  right arrow
>> or down arrow, so not sure how to ensure that everything is installed
>> properly.
>> Thanks for any tips.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/4/2011 1:17 PM, David Hole wrote:
>>> This is awwwsome!
>>> I've just installed it, and it was easy as H!
>>> Søren, ChromeVox is a javascript based screen reader for Chrome and
>>> Chrome OS.
>>> Try it out, and see how good it works in for example gMail! Just
>>> remember to turn off VO since it disturbs you when using.
>>> -David
>>> Den 04.10.2011 18:32, skrev �:
>>>> Sorry, what is Chromevox?
>>>> Best regards:
>>>> S�ren Jensen
>>>> Mail&  MSN:
>>>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>>>> Website:
>>>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>>>>
>>>> Den 04/10/2011 kl. 04.54 skrev Kevin Chao:
>>>>
>>>>> This is wonderful, fantastic, and awesome! It will resolve 99.99% of
>>>>> installation/initial setup issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>>>> From: rshearer
>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:23:53 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>> Subject: ChromeVox is now on the Chrome Web Store!
>>>>> To: axs-chrome-disc...@googlegroups.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've mentioned this on a couple threads already, but I thought I
>>>>> would make
>>>>> an announcement to the group...
>>>>>
>>>>> We just added ChromeVox to the Chrome Web Store! Hooray!
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are some of the advantages to installing ChromeVox from the Web
>>>>> Store:
>>>>> - You'll get automatic updates
>>>>> - Version numbers mean something
>>>>> - We have a fancy new icon :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I updated the Installation Instructions here:
>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/google-axs-chrome/wiki/InstallingChromeVox
>>>>> and they
>>>>> describe how to download it from the Web Store.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the quick version:
>>>>> 1) Make sure you're running Chrome 14 or higher
>>>>> 2) Uninstall any previous version of ChromeVox
>>>>> 3) Go to the ChromeVox page in the Chrome Web Store:
>>>>> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) Click on the "Add to Chrome" button
>>>>> 5) A dialog should pop up titled "Confirm Installation" that lists the
>>>>> permissions that ChromeVox needs. We have a wiki page now about why
>>>>> we need
>>>>> these permissions if you're interested:
>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/google-axs-chrome/wiki/PermissionsGuide .
>>>>> Click on
>>>>> the "Install" button to complete the installation process.
>>>>> 6) Yay, ChromeVox is now installed!
>>>>>
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Re: ChromeVox is now on the Chrome Web Store!

[Jim Fettgather]

I had downloaded and installed Chrome, have gone to the Chrome store, 
and installed Chromebox, but when starting Chrome, and turning off 
Voiceover, still no speech.


I just get the typical bong sound when using Control option  right arrow 
or down arrow, so not sure how to ensure that everything is installed 
properly.

Thanks for any tips.



On 10/4/2011 1:17 PM, David Hole wrote:

This is awwwsome!
I've just installed it, and it was easy as H!
Søren, ChromeVox is a javascript based screen reader for Chrome and 
Chrome OS.
Try it out, and see how good it works in for example gMail! Just 
remember to turn off VO since it disturbs you when using.

-David
Den 04.10.2011 18:32, skrev �:

Sorry, what is Chromevox?
Best regards:
S�ren Jensen
Mail&  MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

Den 04/10/2011 kl. 04.54 skrev Kevin Chao:


This is wonderful, fantastic, and awesome! It will resolve 99.99% of
installation/initial setup issues.

-- Forwarded message --
From: rshearer
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:23:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: ChromeVox is now on the Chrome Web Store!
To: axs-chrome-disc...@googlegroups.com

Hi everybody,

I've mentioned this on a couple threads already, but I thought I 
would make

an announcement to the group...

We just added ChromeVox to the Chrome Web Store! Hooray!

Here are some of the advantages to installing ChromeVox from the Web 
Store:

- You'll get automatic updates
- Version numbers mean something
- We have a fancy new icon :)

I updated the Installation Instructions here:
http://code.google.com/p/google-axs-chrome/wiki/InstallingChromeVox 
and they

describe how to download it from the Web Store.

Here is the quick version:
1) Make sure you're running Chrome 14 or higher
2) Uninstall any previous version of ChromeVox
3) Go to the ChromeVox page in the Chrome Web Store:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn 


4) Click on the "Add to Chrome" button
5) A dialog should pop up titled "Confirm Installation" that lists the
permissions that ChromeVox needs. We have a wiki page now about why 
we need

these permissions if you're interested:
http://code.google.com/p/google-axs-chrome/wiki/PermissionsGuide . 
Click on

the "Install" button to complete the installation process.
6) Yay, ChromeVox is now installed!

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Lion: Safari and Loading Pages

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello.

I may have inadvertently changed something, now, when I click on a
link in Safari, Voicever announces, pressed link, and there is no
longer an indication of when the new page loads.
It does load, but silently, with no audible indication of the download progress.

Any hints as to how to get it back to the typical behavior would be
appreciated, and thanks.

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Lion, Suppressing the Date field.

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello.

Using the new mail layout in Lion, I'm wondering if there is a way to suppress 
the date field, while still being informed of the sender, subject, and the 
preview of the first two lines of the message?

Thanks for any tips on this.


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Re: Where is the restore partition?

[Jim Fettgather]

So, in an attempt to access and install from the recovery partition,
using Command R to start the machine, and connecting to the net via
Ethernet,, I came up with the voice of Fred, after clicking continue,
the prompt, Signing into the App Store.
Then, absolutely nothing after that, just hangs on that screen.
Is this also not accessible even using Ethernet to connect?
Thanks.

On 7/22/11, Brandon Misch  wrote:
> i know but the menu allowing you to connect wirelessly to the net isn't
> accessible.
>
> On Jul 22, 2011, at 12:39 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
>
>> Yes, you can either via ethernet or wifi.
>>
>> Randy Stegall
>> kc4...@aol.com
>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:
>>
>>> question is is there a way to connect to the net when using this
>>> partition so you could reinstall if you need to? hope someone can reply
>>> on this topic.
>>>
>>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 10:17 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Yes, it creates the partition when installing from DVD as well, but be
 warned, installing from DVD takes considerably longer.



 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Shockley
 Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:10 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Where is the restore partition?

 Hi,
 do you know if this is the case when installing from a DVD as well? I am
 thinking of making a DVD for safe keeping once I get Lion put on my
 other
 Mac; but before I did that I wanted to get used to Lion first and get
 everything figured out, which is what I'm doing now.
 Thanks,
 Jeffrey
 On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:36 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Oh wow, I forgot about command-r. There is an issue with installing
> cleanly from that partition, however. If you're connecting to the
> internet through a Wifi network, the menu to access said network isn't
> accessible with VoiceOver. Yes, you do need to connect to the internet
> to install in this way, since the install sends your serial number to
> apple for validation purposes.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Shockley
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:32 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Where is the restore partition?
>
> Hi,
> Just found a way to use this partition.
> Here it is.
> All you have to do is when starting the Mac, hold CMD+R until it
> starts booting. Then, you can turn on VO and you can get to the
> utilities such as Disk Utility. You can even reinstall Lion this way.
> HTH,
> Jeffrey
> On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The recovery partition isn't visible to the OS at all, it's only
>> visible when you hold down the option key when you start the computer.
>>
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Apple Script for Double Space in Text Edit

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi, it really  is not too difficult to interact with the ruler in Text
Edit to set the line spacing to double space in a document.

However, I wonder if it would be possible to write an apple script to
accomplish the task with a keystroke?

Thanks for any thoughts.

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Re: a couple of trackpad commander questions

[Jim Fettgather]

According to keyboard help, you are supposed to be able to hold down the the 
control key and tap to jump to a linked item, such as moving from the messages 
table in mail to the text.

I can get this to accknowledge this gesture in keyboard help, but for some 
reason, I cannot get it to work in the mail program.
Thanks


  
On Jul 10, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi Esther,
> 
> thanks for this info.  I knew that  there are some gestures that are 
> different from or not present on the iPhone, so I'm sure I'll find the help 
> section very useful.
> 
>  I'm really surprised that there isn't a way to open an email message using 
> the trackpad.  that seems like a major oversight, particularly given that 
> this obviously works on the iPhone.  It's interesting, too, because 
> doubletapping does work for opening an app.  But, at least I know I wasn't 
> missing something, either in regards to this or having all columns of the 
> messages table read (another major oversight imho)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Jul 9, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> 1. There's a section in the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide (Chapter 11 on 
>> Using VoiceOver Gestures) that describes using TrackPad Commander. Use VO-H 
>> to bring up the help menu and press "g" to go to the "Getting Started Guide" 
>> and return.  Open the web item rotor with VO-U and press "g e s" to get the 
>> two relevant sections (Chapter 11 and Appendix A listing the Commands and 
>> Gestures). If you want the list of standard gestures, go directly to 
>> Appendix A and navigate to the section on "VoiceOver standard gestures". 
>> (I'd use VO-U for the web rotor and press "s t".)  A lot of these will be 
>> familiar to you from using the iPhone, but there are some other ones like 
>> going to the dock or menu bar (two finger double tap near bottom or top of 
>> trackpad), or opening the application or window chooser menus (two finger 
>> double tap along left or right sides of the trackpad), and changing how 
>> VoiceOver reads text (word, line, sentence, paragraph) by pressing the 
>> Command key while your finger touches the trackpad, that are different.
>> 
>> 2. I don't know of a way to get all the columns in the messages table 
>> announced at once with TrackPad commander.  
>> 
>> 3. I press return to open a message in mail
>> 
>> I'm probably not the best person to answer your questions.  Maybe somebody 
>> else can give you better answers.  
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 07:18, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I've finally decided to spend some time messing with the trackpad 
>>> commander, and have a couple of questions.
>>> 
>>> 1.  Is there any way to view a list of commands?  when I go into the assign 
>>> Commands table I can see the gestures, but none of the commands are 
>>> displayed.
>>> 
>>> 2.  How do I navigate in Mail?  Single-finger flicking takes me out of the 
>>> messages table unless I interact, and if I interact, VO only reads the 
>>> column that I'm on.  I'd like to be able to hear all columns like I do when 
>>> not using the trackpad commander.
>>> 
>>> 3.  How do I open a message in mail?  I would have thought you would do 
>>> this with a double-tap like on the iPhone, but that isn't working.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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Re: Insertion point

[Jim Fettgather]

Also, in VoiceOver utilities, you can go to the Verbosity category,
select the Text tab, and then Select the Speak text to the right of
the cursor PopUp button.

I am really glad that this option exists.

On 6/1/11, carolyn Haas  wrote:
> Hi David:
> Welcom to Mac!:)
>
> I actually haven't run across this question a lot.  But, I struggled with
> the same issue when starting out with the Mac.  Now, when I go back to that
> other system, I'm all thumbs when I have to edit anything. (and I don't mean
> the thumbs that can text well either.:)
>
> I liked Ray's annalogy.  I'd suggest spending a little time with the text
> edit app just writing and working with your delete/backspace key to make it
> more familiar to you.  This will make more sense in time.  It's just a
> re-learning process.:)
>
> One thing that you might find useful is that you can delete to the right of
> the cursor by using your FN-key with the delete/backspace to do a forward
> delete.
>
>
> hth
>
> On Jun 1, 2011, at 2:22 PM, David Eagle wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I'm sure this has been asked on this list loads of times but I must
>> ask, since I can't find the answer in Google. I have used windows for
>> years, I use windows everyday at work. I cannot come home and suddenly
>> get to grips with the way that Voice-Over deals
>> with cursoring through text. I'm sure you know what I mean. If I was
>> using a windows computer with or without a screenreader,
>> I could edit text both the same way. My head is hurting with the new
>> way of cursoring through text and I'm making so many mistakes; It is
>> taking me ages to write simple documents. Is th--
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Re: Eye TV again

[Jim Fettgather]

The particular unit that I have has a place to connect a coaxial cable.
This can be iether from an over the air antenna,  or in my case, the
coaxial cable it's coming right from a cable box.
Hope this helps.

On 1/4/11, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Jim,
> Are you using the eye tv that gets signals from an over the air antenna? Or
> are you using the one that connetcts to a satellite or cable box? I'm
> confused about the various options that are available from el gato.
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Re: Eye TV again

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi, Garth,

I have had some very good luck with Eye TV in conjunction with the
iPhone.  The program guide, which is not at all accessible from within
Eye TV, is completely accessible from the iPhone or iPad.

Plus, you can stream programs over a Wifi connection from your Eye TV
to an iPhone or iPad.

I have a short audio demo of how all of this works:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4679377/Eye%20TV%20on%20the%20Mac%20and%20iPhone.mp3

Thanks.


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> Hi All
>
> In my continuing efforts to find an excuse to buy a mac Book Air, can anyone
> help me with the following.
>
> 1.  Has anyone tried the Eye TV dongle with an Air?
>
> 2.  Once shows are recorded on the air, is there anyway that I would be able
> to share them with a Windows vista machine that we have hooked up to our TV?
> I am thinking maybe if the files could be played through iTunes and the
> libraries were shared that this might work or maybe I could stream them to
> my iPad and then use the VGA connector to play straight to the TV, that is
> if the Eye TV app supports this.  I know thatI could probably find a way of
> hooking up the air to the TV but not sure what connections would be needed.
> Plus I would rather if possible have some way of the files being shared so
> that they were just playible straight through iTunes.
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Interact with Messages Table

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello.

When using Control Option J in Apple Mail  to jump from a message back to the 
messages table, is there a way to prevent voiceover from saying:

Interact with Messages Table?

Thanks a lot.

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Re: Voice chat site

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On 12/27/2010 5:56 PM, May McDonald wrote:

Hey there Colin, can you email me off list and help me out a bit?

It's been a while since I've used the talking community with the Mac 
and can't remember how to toggle the talk key.


May
On 2010-12-11, at 5:04 PM, Colin M wrote:


Hi all!
For anyone who might be interested this site can be accessed by Mac 
users!

You do all of it on the Mac side of things!
You can apply to join at this link
http://talkingcommunities.com/communities/1017/
They seem like a nice bunch!
And was pleased to see a Mac user!
There first!
Also do anyone know of any other voice chat sites that work on the 
Mac side of things?

All the best Colin

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client for the Mac.
I can get it to work, I can find the talk button, but I would sure be 
interested in updates or keyboard shortcucts.

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Re: Talking Communities Chat Client for the Mac

[Jim Fettgather]

So, on the same page as the Mac download, the following info appears
for the Accessible world auditorium room.

Here is the info that you need to connect using our TC Conference for MAC:

Server: 74.208.96.53
Username: enter your name
Password: enter your password (if available)
Room ID: rs5affc3cfa191

Also, I had to restart the Mac, or restart the program, I don't recall
which, but it's probably a good idea just to be safe and restart the
computer, and then, the program was able to log into the room just
fine.



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> You can download the Mac client here,
>
>
> Now, there are two things that need to be namually configured.  One,
> you need to put in the IP address of the room, and the room ID.
> Those two pieces of info are displayed on the same page as the
> download link for the Mac.
> It works well, but there are definitely some accessibility features
> that seem to be missing.
> Thanks.
>
> http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rs5affc3cfa191
>
> On 12/8/10, Gary  wrote:
>> Where did you get this client?  Can you please send me the link.
>> Thanx.
>> Gary
>>
>> On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:04 AM, Jim in KC wrote:
>>
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> I have downloaded and installed the Talking Communities client used by
>>> many popular sites such as Accessible World.
>>> Most of the buttons are not labeled, but I'm wondering if anyone knows
>>> of any keyboard commands that will work running this program?
>>>
>>> I have found buttons by just randomly experimenting, but it would sure
>>> be easier to use the keyboard if possible.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any tips.
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Re: Talking Communities Chat Client for the Mac

[Jim Fettgather]

You can download the Mac client here,


Now, there are two things that need to be namually configured.  One,
you need to put in the IP address of the room, and the room ID.
Those two pieces of info are displayed on the same page as the
download link for the Mac.
It works well, but there are definitely some accessibility features
that seem to be missing.
Thanks.

http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rs5affc3cfa191

On 12/8/10, Gary  wrote:
> Where did you get this client?  Can you please send me the link.
> Thanx.
> Gary
>
> On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:04 AM, Jim in KC wrote:
>
>> Hello.
>>
>> I have downloaded and installed the Talking Communities client used by
>> many popular sites such as Accessible World.
>> Most of the buttons are not labeled, but I'm wondering if anyone knows
>> of any keyboard commands that will work running this program?
>>
>> I have found buttons by just randomly experimenting, but it would sure
>> be easier to use the keyboard if possible.
>>
>> Thanks for any tips.
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Re: Talking Communities Chat Client for the Mac

[Jim Fettgather]

On 12/8/2010 5:39 PM, Gary wrote:

Where did you get this client?  Can you please send me the link.
Thanx.
Gary

On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:04 AM, Jim in KC wrote:


Hello.

I have downloaded and installed the Talking Communities client used by
many popular sites such as Accessible World.
Most of the buttons are not labeled, but I'm wondering if anyone knows
of any keyboard commands that will work running this program?

I have found buttons by just randomly experimenting, but it would sure
be easier to use the keyboard if possible.

Thanks for any tips.

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Here is one place to download the Mac plug in.  You need not enter the 
room to get this plug in.
I might also mention that there are two pieces of information that you 
need to provide for the software, the IP address, and the room number.  
I have found that you need only do this one time.
The Mac version is not as automated as the Windows version of the 
software, but it is definitely useable and it's great that the Mac 
alternative is available.

http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rs5affc3cfa191

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Talking Communities Mac Client

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello.

Some web sites, such as Accessible World, use the popular Talking 
Communities TC Chat client to conduct conferences using both audio and text.


I've used this client in Windows, and I have now tried it with the Mac, 
and it actually is easy to use, requiring  a bit more fiddling, having 
to enter TCIP and room information manually.


After once entering this information, the client works very well.
The exception is, there does not seem to be a keyboard command to toggle 
the microphone.
You can use VO Space on a button to toggle the microphone on and off, 
but I'm wondering if anyone has discovered any hidden secrets to use 
this client with the keyboard?


Thanks.


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Re: Replacing Windows Media Centre with a Mac

[Jim Fettgather]

Eye TV allows you to easily change the channel and to view your recorded 
programsl both of which are accessible with Voiceover.


The program guide is not accessible with Voiceover, making it impossible 
to schedule recordings in advance.


It is certainly possible to start a recording at any time with a hot 
key, but if the program guide were accessible, this would be a fantastic 
computer based DVR solution.



On 11/26/2010 6:55 AM, garth Humphreys wrote:

Hi All

We currently have a Windows PC and have it connected to our main TV. We 
constantly use it for a DVR. It has a TV tuner card and with Windows Media 
Centre and the remote control, it works really well, especially for my sighted 
family. We use a blue tooth keyboard and mouse for when the computer is being a 
computer so to speak.

I am interested in setting up a similar system with a Mac mini.  I have full in 
love with my iPad but have only briefly played with a Mac it the Apple store. I 
am sure that the Mac with VO would be sufficient for me as a computer but do 
not know how well it would go in replacing the DVR functionality that we have 
with our current Windows machine.

The Apple store sells a dongle that has duel TV tuners called an Eye TV. It 
comes with software that seems similar to Media Centre so on the face of it 
this should meet mine and my families needs however I have a few questions.

firstly has anyone had any experience with such a system? Does VO work well 
with the Eye TV interface?

The Eye TV dongle plugs into the mini through one of its USB ports and is able 
to record two channels at once. This seems to me to be a lot of data to try and 
fit through one USB 2 port. The TV card is internal on our current machine. 
Does anyone know if this is a valid concern? May be USB is able to take two HD 
video streams.

We have more then enough good high def digital TV  content on free to air in 
Australia and don't have access to hulu or net flicks here so I really need the 
Mac mini to be able to fully  replace the DVR functionality of our current 
machine before proposing the switch to my wife.

I hope someone can let me know their experiences.

Thanks,
Garth



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Re: confirming apple tv has vo support

[Jim Fettgather]

I am also continuing to search for a Mac-based TV tuner whose program
guide is accessible.  The El Gato Eye TV, spelled E Y E works great as
far as it goes.  You can easily switch channels, play programs that
have already been recorded, and start a recording live at any time
simply by pressing Command R.  But you cannot schedule recordings in
advance.  This is indeed highly highly disappointing.

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> wow; thanks for telling me that.  My search for a Mac-based TV tuner
> continues.
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Re: I cannot get gmail pop mail service to work

[Jim Fettgather]

On 11/15/2010 8:21 PM, Tom Frank wrote:

Hi there all,

POP is Post Office protocol. It simply downloads all of your new messages to 
your computer for you to read.

IMAP is Internet Message Access Protocol. Your messages, folders, filters, and 
the like can reside on the server and your computer syncs to them. The 
advantage, is, so I am told, is that you can access your account from work, 
home, or anywhere else and everything syncs.

The problem I found that VO keeps saying, Mail is busy and it takes time to 
sync when you delte, move, or do anything with your mail.

POP is simpler and is easier to manage as far as I'm concerned.

Tom Frank
On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Christina wrote:


I do not have any understanding as to the difference between the two of them.  
I do not know what pop is or what imap is.  However, I was going by the example 
of what someone had set up for me on another gmail account.
On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:


Out of curiosity, why did you decide to go with pop3, as opposed to imap? There 
might be a good reason to do so, but I can't think of one.

-Joshua
On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Christina wrote:


I don't know what I am doing wrong but I am trying to add a gmail account to 
apple mail and it just won't work.  I have followed all the steps to the best 
of my ability and I just cannot get it to work.  The closest I've come is 
getting an error message saying that pop.gmail.com cannot be verified and may 
be a security risk if I continue.  Those are not the exact words but it's the 
general idea.  Are there any ideas as to what is going on.  I've read 
everything I could on the gmail website to see why I've gotten this error 
message and also as to why this is not working at all.  I currently have a pop 
gmail account working in apple mail and I've tried using similar settings for 
the new gmail address but I cannot get it to work.  On the gmail side I did 
enable pop mail so that isn't the problem.  Someone else set up the first gmail 
account for me but I just cannot seem to figure out how to set up the second 
account on my own.

Thanks for any hints,
Christina

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This is rather bizarre.
It's my Windows machine that has a severe lag when moving or deleting 
IMAP mail, but the Macbook Air is lightning fast and responds 
immediately when taking actions on IMAP mail.




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Re: My Passport External Hard Drive

[Jim Fettgather]

On 9/20/2010 4:38 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

You could reformat the drive as another option.

On Sep 19, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

   

Hello download ntfs3g and macfuse. You cannot copy and past using ntfs at all 
unless you get these 2 *free* programs.

Take care.

S
 
   
I did re-format the drive with disk utilities and it is indeed working 
great.

Thanks to all for your suggestions.

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My Passport External Hard Drive

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi to the list.

I had purchased a My Passport 500 GB external hard drive, when 
connecting it to the Mac, a message came up asking if i wanted to use 
Time Machine to back up files.


I elected not to use Time Machine but instead to copy and move files 
manually.


However, when I copy files or folders to the clipboard, and open My 
Passport, paste options are dimmed, in every case.


Any suggestions as to what's happening?

Thanks a lot.


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Re: Pauses in Mail Messages

[Jim Fettgather]

Often, the option to display the message in plain text is dimmed out
and unavailable.

On 8/2/10, Chantel Cuddemi  wrote:
> Have you tried switching to plain text alternative? To do this, hit command
> shift p I think. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
> On Aug 2, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Jim Fettgather wrote:
>
>> Hello.
>>
>> When reading mail, often,  when using  Control Option J to move between
>> the mail message table and the message text,   there are unnatural pauses
>> as Voiceover reads the text of the message.
>>
>> These pauses seem to occur at the end of each line, but not on all
>> messages.
>>
>> Any way to get Voiceover to read messages without these distracting,
>> unnatural pauses?
>>
>> Thanks.
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Pauses in Mail Messages

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello.

When reading mail, often,  when using  Control Option J to move between the 
mail message table and the message text,   there are unnatural pauses as 
Voiceover reads the text of the message.

These pauses seem to occur at the end of each line, but not on all messages.

Any way to get Voiceover to read messages without these distracting, unnatural 
pauses?

Thanks.
 

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Re: Vision Australia VO tutorials Won't Play on my Mac?

[Jim Fettgather]

I am also a bit surprised,  I am running  Snow Leopard with all software 
updates applied, and Vision Australia's MP3's don't play in Safari, 
Safari 5.

Other sites, like BlindCoolTech play just fine.
Thanks.



On 7/24/2010 11:43 AM, Allison Manzino wrote:

Hi Al,

I just tried it on Safari and it worked. I wonder if updating to the newest 
version of Snow Leopard helps. I updated to the latest version I think. I hope 
that helps.

Allison

My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!


On Jul 24, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote:

   

Hi Allison,
Yep, tried Webkit as well as Safari. Let me know if they still work for you.
Once I couldn't get those to work, went over to blindcooltech.com, and was
able to play files there without any problems, shrug.


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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Manzino
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Vision Australia VO tutorials Won't Play on my Mac?

Hi Al,

THis is probably a dumb solution, but have you tried it with Webkit? I can
play them fine, or at least I used to be able to. I haven't tried it since
Safari 5 came out. I will see if I can get these to play.

Allison

My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!


On Jul 24, 2010, at 12:03 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote:

 

Many of you may already be aware of these, but Vision Australia has
posted some very well done Vo Tutorial MP3s at:
http://www.visionaustralia.org/info.aspx?page=2296
Ironically, I can play these files with no problem whatsoever under
Windows, but in Safari, when I click on any of the links, audio never
starts. The player window pops up and I can access all the controls.
Pressing Play causes the play button to become the pause button, but
the audio timer never increments and I don't hear anything.
At first, I thought something was wrong with my settings, but I am
able to play audio on other pages with no problem.
Any ideas as to what is going on would be appreciated.
Thanks,

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Accessible TV Tuner Software?

[Jim Fettgather]

I am still looking for accessible TV tuner software that is compatible 
with Voiceover.


I have not heard about anything other than Eye TV, whose program guide 
is not accessible to VO.

Any hints or tips for this would sure be appreciated.  Thanks.

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TrackPad and Mail

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi.

I just now got a Macbook Air, it's really amazing, it really is lighter 
than air!


So, this is my first experience with the Trackpad, except for on the 
iPhone, and I'm wondering if there is a gesture that can be used within 
mail to jump between the messages table and the messages, to emulate 
Control Option J.


Thanks a lot.

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Re: New Mac Mini

[Jim Fettgather]

It would sure be great, if we had an accessible solution for scheduling 
and recording and playing TV programs from cable or antenna..


On 6/18/2010 7:23 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
I personally think this is a good step taken by Apple.  The 
introduction of HDMI on the mini is fantastic for those who wish to 
hook up a full computer to their HD TV.  Internet browsing etc on the 
XBox/PS3

On 18 Jun 2010, at 12:11, Rob Lambert wrote:
leaves a lot to be desired and the Mac mini fills the gap nicely.  I 
know a great deal of my PC friends have been waiting for an HDMI Mac 
mini, so can see many people switching.  I also know a number of bars 
that use the Mac mini to power power their displays, so having HDMI 
built in will make life easier.


Also some low vision users will appreciate being able to easily 
connect a mac up to a huge TV will benefit from this.  I know if I 
still have had my vision I would have bought one of these, as they are 
much better then the Apple TV.  However I would have liked to have 
seen the Mac mini starting price at £499 to keep it below the £500 
price tag as you can buy a Windows laptop for less then the price of 
the Mac mini.  Would have also liked the Mac mini to be available in 
black too to fit in with most AV equipment.  Maybe at its current 
price blu-ray should have been built in?  Would like to see Apple add 
more TV like features too.  Imagine talking menus and TV guide on a 
HDTV? now that would be useful as I find it very difficult to use my 
cable set top box since going blind.
Apple has redesigned it's mac mini. It's now shorter (at just over an 
inch thick), but also wider (at approximately 7.1" square). The big 
thing on this one is, on the bottom, there is a round cover. Twist 
this cover, and remove it, and you are immediately granted access to 
the RAM. There is also a model range cut for the mini. You now just 
have the one lower priced (what I call "consumer") model at $699, and 
then the server at $999. There's also an SD card slot on the back 
(come in from the left hand side, and it's on the top, above the two 
round audio ports). Finally, keep going beyond the SD card, towards 
the right. You will first find four USB 2.0 ports, and beyond the 
furthest right port (or the one closest to the center of the back of 
the Mini, however you prefer) there are two ports. One is the mini 
DVI port that's found on Apple's MacBook Pro. The one to the right of 
that is long, rectangular, and has an angular shape on the bottom. 
This is Apple's brand new HDMI port. This means that, if you have an 
HD TV, you can hook up your Mini and use your HD TV as the monitor. A 
full port description is as follows. If you come in from the right 
hand side, the back has the following ports from right to left: Power 
(switch), power (A/C adapter port), ethernet, Firewire 800 (the 
horizontal long line below this is a cooling vent), then thee's the 
HDMI port that I spoke of earlier, and the Mini DVI port. Finally, 
following on from the DVI port, again proceeding to the left, there 
is the four USB ports, and an SD card slot, and that's where you will 
see the left edge of your Mini. Below the SD card slot are two audio 
jacks. The one  closest to the edge is headphone, and the one closest 
to the center is line-in. More info can be found at 
http://www.apple.com/macmini/ I'm curious about your opinion on this. 
For those who don't know, the Mini has been around since 2005, and 
this is it's first full redesign in five years. In my opinion, it was 
way overdue, and I'm glad they finally got around to it.


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Iworks Trial Download

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello.  I am very curious to try the  30-day trial of Iworks on the Mac.

When going to the Apple site where the download is located, the actual
download seems to be inside of an empty frame, at least this is what
Voiceover reports.

In other words, there is what sounds like a frame for the download,
but when interacting with that frame, it is empty, with no download
link.

Any suggestions on how to download this 30-day Iworks trial?
Thanks a lot.

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Itunes 9, Songs Table VS Album View

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello.

I should be able to figure this out after all this time, but my song
collection is growing quite a lot, and I'm trying to figure out how to
change the songs table to show as groups of albums instead of
individual songs.

Any help with this is sure appreciated.
Thanks.

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Popcorn and Accessibility

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi.

I have purchased the program Popcorn to be able to copy DVD's,
however, I'm beginning to wonder about its accessibility, as there are
several windows that give the unknown message to Voiceover.

Has anyone had any success with this program?

Thanks for any tips.

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Re: Copying a Non-Commercial DVD

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi.
I actually found some instructions online  for doing this, but may
have done it incorrectly.
I put the homemade DVD in the computer, quit DVD player, went into the
utilities folder and disk utilities, and was successful at saving the
file as an image file, but it has a CDR extension, and if I understand
this correctly, it needs to have a IMG extension instead
When I burned the new DVD, it would not play, but instead, the folder
structure did appear with all of the files.
Any thoughts or tips on how to do this correctly?
Thanks.

On 2/16/10, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> What happens if you make a disk image using Disk Utility and then burn
> that image to a blank using disk utility?
>
> CB
>
> Jim Fettgather wrote:
>> Hi to the list.
>>
>> I wonder if there is a way, using Snow Leopard, or perhaps another
>> program, to create duplicates of a non-commercial DVD?
>> I have looked around within the operating system, but have not found
>> any specific information  as to whether this is possible.
>>
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>>
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Copying a Non-Commercial DVD

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi to the list.

I wonder if there is a way, using Snow Leopard, or perhaps another
program, to create duplicates of a non-commercial DVD?
I have looked around within the operating system, but have not found
any specific information  as to whether this is possible.

Thanks for any suggestions.

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iTV and Snow Leopard

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi.

I have just now installed iTV and it seems quite accessible in many
ways.  It is possible to move around among the various channels, start
recording live TV, play, pause, rewind and fast forward through a
recorded TV program, and make quite a few other adjustments using the
keyboard.
I have not yet figured out how to view the program guide or schedule a
recording.
This window does not appear to be accessible to Voiceover, as the
unknown message is spoken in this window.
I'm wondering if anyone has been successful using this software to
view the program guide and schedule a recording?
Thanks a lot for any info.

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Re: mac mini's

[Jim Fettgather]

Because the Mac mini is the perfect form factor for an entertainment
center, I'm wondering what applications could be used for recording
television broadcasts?  Playing DVD's appears to be no problem, as my
experience with Front Row has been very positive in that regard, but
the missing piece of the puzzle is using a TV tuner card to record and
to play content from cable television.
Any recommendations will be highly appreciated.

On 12/15/09, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> You couldn't ask for a better media senter than the mini, though I have to
> disagree.  Windows 7 should run quite happily on the new minis, but if it's
> media center applications you want then Mac OS is the way to go, especially
> since you're bying an apple.
>
> Best,
>
> erik burggraaf
> A+ certified technician and user support consultant.
> Phone: 888-255-5194
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>
> On 2009-12-15, at 3:54 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>
>> Sorry list but I've got to ask a crazy question.
>>
>>  Has anyone tried running windows 7 on a mac mini?
>> I mean either in bootcamp or as the primary os?.?
>>
>> Yeah I know that would be crazy, but we're looking for a small but poerful
>> and able to be almost hidden  pc to use as a media machine in an
>> entertainment  room, and as the media servers are ms server 2k8 it's
>> suggestted that  windows 7 be used as the os. Rather than osx!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Simon f
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Re: iphone

[Jim Fettgather]

Email was exactly what I was going to suggest, but recently, Bookshare
files don't seem to contain HTML files, but only the XML equivalents.

On 11/16/09, Romack  wrote:
>
> I haven't done this myself, but know that it would work:
>
> Just put the files in a Dropbox or iDisk account. With these two apps,
> you should surely be able to store and retrieve HTML files from
> another source and view them on your iPhone. Another suggestion would
> be to e-mail them to yourself.
>
> romack
>
> John W. Carty wrote:
>> Jake,
>> If you didn't download them on the phone, how did you transfer them?
>>
>> Does the phone attach via usb?
>>
>> Will it be recognized simply as another drive or do you have to use a
>> particular application?
>>
>> thanx,
>>
>> John Carty
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jake
>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:40 PM
>> To: MacVisionaries
>> Subject: Re: iphone
>>
>>
>> Hi
>> I've not tried to download them on my phone, though I have a hunch
>> that wouldn't work. I have however read them on the phone in the web
>> browser. Note, though, that it's the HTML file you want and not the
>> XML. The XML will work but sometimes doesn't render properly due to
>> the daisy tags in it that are not understood by most web browsers. The
>> HTML file is designed to be read in a web browser, and has the daisy
>> information removed as well as using HTML formatting where it is
>> applicable.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 16, 12:02 pm, "John W. Carty"  wrote:
>> > Is anyone out there who subscribes to book share tried to download,
>> > unzip, and open the xml file in your phones browser to read?
>> >
>> > Is this possible?
>> >
>> > thanx,
>> >
>> > John Carty
> >
>

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Re: Abbyy FineReader works well

[Jim Fettgather]

How would one go about researching purchasing a new scanner compatible
with Fine reader without the need for third party software?
Thanks.

On 11/10/09, Tony Bernedal  wrote:
>
> Hi Anne.
> Thanks for the answer. I'll give vuescan a try later.
> Regards Tony
>
> 10 nov 2009 kl. 20.48 skrev Anne Robertson:
>
>>
>> Hello Tony,
>>
>> VueScan should solve your problems.
>>
>> A big plus with FineReader is that it isn't limited to 50 pages as
>> Readiris is. I don't know what its limit is, but my friend scans a whole
>> book at a time and FineReader copes.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Anne
>>
>>
>> >
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Thunderbird for the Mac?

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi.  Has anyone been successful installing the Thunderbird email
program with Snow Lepoard?
I tried to open the Thunderbird DMG file, and it appeared as if even
the install process was not accessible, although, I could have been
doing something incorrectly.

Any prior experiences with Thunderbird or correct procedures for
installation will be highly appreciated, and thanks.

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Re: opening links from within an email message

[Jim Fettgather]

I have always been able to activate a link from an within an email by
pressing VO Shift M, and from the menu, choosing open link.

On 10/8/09, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Hi Soren,
>
> Thanks for your explanation, it wasn't bad at all. :)  Am I imagining
> that this doesn't always behave consistently?  Sometimes it seems like
> what you described works, then sometimes it doesn't.  then,  just a
> minute ago I was able to activate a link by interacting with the text
> of the link, but that doesn't always seem to work either.
> Thanks,
> Donna
> On Oct 8, 2009, at 9:13 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> If you can't activate the link by pressing vo spacebar, you have to
>> move out of the link, move the voiceover cursor to the link again
>> until voiceover says "link" before it reads the link. Then you should
>> be able to activate it by pressing vo spacebar.
>> Sorry for my bad explanation. I hope it makes sense.
>> Best regards
>> Søren Jensen
>> Mail & MSN:
>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>> Website:
>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> How on God's green earth does one do this?  I try everything,
>>> interacting, not interacting, pressing enter, pressing space-L.  I
>>> usually eventually manage to activate the link, but I have no idea
>>> why.  Any help is greatly appreciated.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>>

>>
>>
>> >
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Re: skip blank lines

[Jim Fettgather]

For some reason, the plain text option in the view menu is always
dimmed for all of my messages.

On 10/6/09, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> Sometimes an HTML message includes a text alternative, which reads
> better and doesn't read all those blank lines. To access it, press
> Command-Option P, or go to the View Menu, choose Message, then Plain
> Text Alternative.
>
> HTH,
> Anna
>
>
> >
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Mail Clients for the Mac?

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi to the list.

Has anyone tried any other mail clients besides Apple Mail that ships
with Snow Leopard?

I'm asking only because of the way that VO reads a lot of mail now,
with these hideous pauses at the end of each line.

Thanks a lot.

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Re: Snow Leopard and mail preview pane

[Jim Fettgather]

I am curious to know, what advantages are there to turning off the
preview pane?  Does the mail program behave differently in any way?
Thanks for your observations.



On 9/16/09, Simon Cavendish  wrote:
>
> Try to do it with the physical mouse click by routing your mouse
> cursor to voiceover cursor with vo+command+f5. I think that is how I
> had switched the preview pane as it was driving me crazy.
>
> Best, Simon
> On 16 Sep 2009, at 14:42, Bob Hill wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I received and installed my copy of Snow Leopard last week, and now
>> want to turn off the preview pane in mail.
>>
>> Is there a different procedure for doing this in mail now?
>> clicking on the horizontal splitters doesn't seem to work.
>> I have mouse cursor ignores VO cursor set in navigation
>>
>> Any suggestions ire appreciated.
>>
>> Bob Hill
>>
>>
>> >
>
>
> >
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Itunes 9 and the Command Browser

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi to the list.

Using Itunes 9, after turning on the store browser with Command B,
it's fairly straight forward to choose categories and interact with
all of the various artists and titles.  It seems very responsive.

I'm wondering though if anyone has found a way to jump to specific
entries beginning with a specific letter by typing that letter, as it
is quite tedious to VO keys plus  down arrow dozens of times to get to
a specific place in the browser.

Thanks a lot for any suggestions.

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