Re: Flatbed Scanner and OCR Program Recommendations

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I would still like to know what scanner and OCR program you use.  Running a 
virtual machine seems like more complexity than I want to use.
Marshall


> On Jul 3, 2019, at 4:06 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> 
> Hi, personally I would not do any scanning with in the mac system,
> have a study where reading huge books is a must for me , and the best
> I have found so far is a book scanner, and windows running in a vm on
> the mac.
> It all depends on what you need it for of course , scanning a few
> pages, or a few hundred?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/1/19, 'Marshall Scott' via MacVisionaries
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>> Hi,
>> I'm phasing out my Windows 7 OCR program and the associated flatbed scanner.
>> What are people using on the Mac to replace these items?
>> Thanks,
>> Marshall
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Flatbed Scanner and OCR Program Recommendations

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Hi,
I'm phasing out my Windows 7 OCR program and the associated flatbed scanner.  
What are people using on the Mac to replace these items?
Thanks,
Marshall

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Re: Photos App And VoiceOver

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Hi,

the easiest method is to use iCloud Photo Sharing.  When using iCloud Photo 
Sharing, your photos are shared between the iPhone, the Mac and iCloud with one 
library.  So, creating albums on one, creates the album on all locations.  It 
is a very slick operation.  The main concern though would be iCloud storage 
space.  A 50 GB storage allowance would likely keep around 10,000 photos.  If 
you went with this option, you would just need to enable iCloud Photo Library 
on both the Mac and iPhone and the photos would auto-populate your Mac with no 
interaction on your part.

If you'd like more detailed instructions, let me know.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 28, 2018, at 14:50, Pete De Vasto mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have a lot of photos on my iPhone that I’d like to offload onto my Mac mini. 
If anyone has been able to successfully do this, I’d like to know how. I’m 
still fairly new to Mac after being a long-time Windows user, so hope this 
isn’t too elementary a question. I’ve gone into the Photos app but can’t seem 
to find a good way to at least get VO to identify the images. If there’s any 
write-up on using Photos with VoiceOver, that would be helpful.

Thanks,
Pete De Vasto

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Mojavi & EPub books

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Hi,
Has anyone had any problems reading EPub books in Mojavi?
Thanks
Marshall

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Re: Absolutely at my wit's end with web browser busy nonsense

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Try navigating up from the bottom of the page or searching for something 
specific in the web page.  Also try using Google Chrome rather than Safari.
Marshall


> On Aug 13, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Christine Grassman  
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> 
>> Could you be more specific about “navigating around the problem area”? 
>> Everything freezes, and I have to wait for a few seconds up to a couple of 
>> minutes before I hear a click and “VoiceOver on,” . . . and then if I 
>> attempt again the task I was attempting, again, and again, and again, ad 
>> nauseam.
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 5:49 PM, 'Marshall Scott' via MacVisionaries 
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>> The only thing I can suggest is to try to navigate around the problem area.  
>> I realize this isn't of much help.  The only other thing I can think of is 
>> for everyone who has this issue to call Apple Accessibility every time it 
>> happens.  Unfortunately, this might have undesirable consequences in terms 
>> of support.
>> Marshall
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Christine Grassman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have tried everything: cleaning out unnecessary files, doing a disk 
>>> utility first aid check, PRAM and SMC, numerous reboots: no matter what web 
>>> browser I use, no matter how close to my router I am, no matter what I do, 
>>> whenever I perform searches, try to fill anything out, read through 
>>> headings or other information, busy becomes a monster and is costing 
>>> literally taking hours out of my days to complete the simplest tasks to 
>>> more involved ones.
>>> Is there a darn thing I can do, and/or is there something visiting the 
>>> Genius Bar might accomplish?
>>> Christine
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Re: Absolutely at my wit's end with web browser busy nonsense

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The only thing I can suggest is to try to navigate around the problem area.  I 
realize this isn't of much help.  The only other thing I can think of is for 
everyone who has this issue to call Apple Accessibility every time it happens.  
Unfortunately, this might have undesirable consequences in terms of support.
Marshall


> On Aug 13, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Christine Grassman  
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> I have tried everything: cleaning out unnecessary files, doing a disk utility 
> first aid check, PRAM and SMC, numerous reboots: no matter what web browser I 
> use, no matter how close to my router I am, no matter what I do, whenever I 
> perform searches, try to fill anything out, read through headings or other 
> information, busy becomes a monster and is costing literally taking hours out 
> of my days to complete the simplest tasks to more involved ones.
> Is there a darn thing I can do, and/or is there something visiting the Genius 
> Bar might accomplish?
> Christine
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SHIPT Grocery delivery

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Hi,
Has anyone tried SHIPT grocery delivery service?  If so,, what do you think?
Thanks,
Marshall

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Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

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> Marshall

> Hi, Folks,
I hope you are reporting this issue to Apple Accessibility.  I had a similar 
problem a couple of weeks ago and after spending some time on the phone with 
them, the Apple person was able to reproduce the problem.  Something in the 
website (Audible) was using up 100 percent in Voiceover.  Since the Apple 
person reproduced the problem, it probably went directly to Apple Engineering 
and hopefully will be fixed.

> On Jan 17, 2018, at 2:08 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Emrah,
> 
> I half to do this periodically with my Avid Pro tools box.
> It definitely clears "VoiceOver's" throat! ;)
> Talk soon
> Chuck
> "God does not play dice with the universe"
> "Albert Einstein’
> 
> On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Emrah wrote:
> 
>> Chuck,
>> I just went ahead and executed on your instructions. I don't know if it's 
>> just a placebo effect, but I'm already feeling some improvement without 
>> rebooting. Haven't done much yet, but if this really has solved my major 
>> issues, I'll be so very grateful to you. Seriously, it's a life-savor tip 
>> there.
>> Thanks a million!
>> Emrah
>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 8:13 PM, CHUCK REICHEL >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Emrah,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Heres an apple tech tip on how to clear sluggish VO movement by deleting 
>>> the Caches folder.
>>> This helps minimize the "busy" issue for me. :)
>>> Basic steps below;
>>> To empty out the Caches folder on your computer, you’ll need to open up 
>>> Finder first. 
>>> 
>>> With Voiceover on, you can press V O D, and it should default to Finder. 
>>> Then press V O Space. 
>>> 
>>> Once Finder is the focused application, press V O M to get to the menu bar, 
>>> then V O Right until you reach the Go menu. In the Go menu, select Go To 
>>> Folder. 
>>> 
>>> The location is ~/Library
>>> 
>>> Once you’ve typed that in, press Return. 
>>> 
>>> In the Library folder, you can select the Caches folder and then press 
>>> Command Delete to move it to trash. 
>>> 
>>> I recommend restarting the computer after you do this.
>>> HTH
>>> Chuck
>>> "God does not play dice with the universe"
>>> "Albert Einstein’
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Emrah wrote:
>>> 
 Anouk,
 Good point with Mail. I was thinking about mentioning it as I was trying 
 to get to this thread of conversation with my busy busy mail App, and then 
 saw your message.
 Indeed, Mail is also a pain.
 I'm running the latest updates, but have not tried using a different 
 account. What I did though, is make sure that nothing was launching 
 unnecessarily, including the stuff that gets in the Library folders, and 
 the processor is pretty stable.
 Is VoiceOver not multithreading?
 
 Jonathan, good call on the cursor tracking. I'll look into experimenting 
 with that as well.
 
 Emrah
> On Jan 17, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Anouk Radix  > wrote:
> 
> I am using the newest version of os x and it is fully updated.
> 
>> On 17 Jan 2018, at 16:02, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Well, you didn't indicate if you have upgraded to the latest version of 
>> the OS. Also, have you looked to see if the problems persist when 
>> creating a temporary account or using the "guest" account on the system. 
>> This is a good way to see if the slowdowns are a system issue or a 
>> configuration issue. Note there are some websites that push so much junk 
>> around in JS that the Macintosh can't keep track of what is where. This 
>> can especially be the case for Group mode where VoiceOver has some idea 
>> of what is is played out where. 
>> 
>> Another place you can run into trouble is Facebook if navigating bia the 
>> VoiceOver keystrokes instead of the FB  recognized keys. ) Generally on 
>> sites that VoiceOver does not work well for me, I will turn off Cursor 
>> tracking and then make sure to use route functions for entering data. In 
>> fact, I think I will reassign the numbed enter key to be "route keyboard 
>> focus to voiceover cursor". This way I can quickly move focus but still 
>> keep the cursor tracking off. Though this might still have some problems 
>> with vo-shift-M or vo-space.
>> 
>> 
>> On 17 January 2018 at 05:30, Anouk Radix > > wrote:
>> Hi, I have the seem problem with my 2013 macbook air with core i7 and 
>> 8gb of ram. Safari is constantly busy as is often mail.
>> I have no such problems on ios but os x with voiceover is REALLY 
>> sluggish.
>> And while braille is better then in the last release its still worse 
>> then what it used to be.
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> 
>> > On 

Re: mac partition questiohn

[Marshall Scott]

Why don't you call Apple accessibility support at (877) 204-3930.  They may be 
able to help.
Marshall


> On Jan 15, 2018, at 11:45 PM, The wolf <hank.smith...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> yes of course
> how big should the recovery partition be?
> surely not 127 gigs?
> 
> On 1/13/2018 11:01 AM, Marshall Scott wrote:
>> Have you taken the recovery partition into account?
>> Marshall
>> On Jan 12, 2018, at 10:13 PM, The wolf <hank.smith...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello yes I am using High Sierra
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/12/2018 10:01 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>>>You are running High Sierra? If the drive is not an SSD then you are 
>>>> probably using macOS extended. Mine is formatted to APFS so the partition 
>>>> tab is different. So I am not sure what you should look for.
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/12/2018 7:07 PM, The wolf wrote:
>>>>> will give that a shot
>>>>> 
>>>>> is there anything that I should be looking out for?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/12/2018 8:01 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>>>>>Off list. Since I have not had this problem, perchance you can go 
>>>>>> into the partition tab and see if you can address this there. Just a 
>>>>>> guess that you somehow "lost" 125gigs in there.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>>>>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1/12/2018 5:07 PM, The wolf wrote:
>>>>>>> disk aid was one of the verry first things that I tried running
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 1/12/2018 6:03 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>>>>>>>Too many things going on over here. So you are missing 125g. Have 
>>>>>>>> you run First Aid?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>>>>>>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>>>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 1/12/2018 4:56 PM, The wolf wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 250 gb capasity
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> minus 125 gigs for the intire mac partition=
>>>>>>>>> 125 gigs
>>>>>>>>> there is still
>>>>>>>>> 125 gigs that should be free
>>>>>>>>> is thismaking any sense?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 1/12/2018 5:46 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hank,
>>>>>>>>>>Go to Finder, do a command shift c to bring up the drives, do a 
>>>>>>>>>> command i on the drive and tell me what the 3 numbers are. Capacity, 
>>>>>>>>>> available and used.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>>>>>>>>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>>>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>>>>>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/12/2018 4:40 PM, The wolf wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> the mac book should show a capasity
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> of 250 gigs
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>

Re: mac partition questiohn

[Marshall Scott]

Have you taken the recovery partition into account?
Marshall
On Jan 12, 2018, at 10:13 PM, The wolf  wrote:
> 
> Hello yes I am using High Sierra
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/12/2018 10:01 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>You are running High Sierra? If the drive is not an SSD then you are 
>> probably using macOS extended. Mine is formatted to APFS so the partition 
>> tab is different. So I am not sure what you should look for.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 1/12/2018 7:07 PM, The wolf wrote:
>>> will give that a shot
>>> 
>>> is there anything that I should be looking out for?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/12/2018 8:01 PM, E.T. wrote:
Off list. Since I have not had this problem, perchance you can go into 
 the partition tab and see if you can address this there. Just a guess that 
 you somehow "lost" 125gigs in there.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
 all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
 E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 1/12/2018 5:07 PM, The wolf wrote:
> disk aid was one of the verry first things that I tried running
> 
> On 1/12/2018 6:03 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>Too many things going on over here. So you are missing 125g. Have you 
>> run First Aid?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 1/12/2018 4:56 PM, The wolf wrote:
>>> 250 gb capasity
>>> 
>>> minus 125 gigs for the intire mac partition=
>>> 125 gigs
>>> there is still
>>> 125 gigs that should be free
>>> is thismaking any sense?
>>> 
>>> On 1/12/2018 5:46 PM, E.T. wrote:
 Hank,
Go to Finder, do a command shift c to bring up the drives, do a 
 command i on the drive and tell me what the 3 numbers are. Capacity, 
 available and used.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
 all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
 E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 1/12/2018 4:40 PM, The wolf wrote:
> the mac book should show a capasity
> 
> of 250 gigs
> not
> 124.92 gigs
> there is still something not right with this
> 
> 
> On 1/12/2018 5:33 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>If he partition is 125g, 25 used and 100g available then that 
>> adds up up 250g. Am I missing something?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 1/12/2018 3:23 PM, The wolf wrote:
>>> capassity
>>> 
>>> 124.92 gigs
>>> 
>>> 98.6 gigs
>>> 
>>> available
>>> 
>>> 124 megabites
>>> 
>>> purgeable
>>> 
>>> 26 gigs
>>> used
>>> I am still missing 100 gigs some where on this drive
>>> my drive on the mac is a 250 gig drives
>>> Hank
>>> 
>>> On 1/12/2018 4:11 PM, E.T. wrote:
Dump the trash and check again.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the 
 world,
 all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind 
 off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
 E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 1/12/2018 2:56 PM, The wolf wrote:
> Hello total drive it is saying that it is 124 gig capassity
> 
> it is using 82 gig but the drive is a 250 gb so something is 
> taking over 100 gigs
> 
> On 1/12/2018 3:21 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>How do you know what you are missing? You did not say how 
>> much space is used. Do a Get Info on the drive.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all 

Your Messages

[Marshall Scott]

Hi Mark,
I don't know why but a number of your messages are being marked as junk 
messages on my MacBook Aire running High Sierra.  They are then being moved to 
my Junk folder.  This isn't happening to other messages.
Any idea why this is happening to you and how to stop it?
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Re: Disk Warrior

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Hi, Folks
Thanks for the information.  I called Alsoft and talking to someone who didn't 
know anything of use, decided to take the computer to a local repair shop that 
deals with Apple products.  Hopefully they will be able to recover much of the 
information on the disk.
Thanks,
Marshall

> On Jun 28, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I used it five years ago or so.  At that time there were two uses.
> 
> 1. periodic monitoring of the disk. This just used Apple controls and I seem 
> to remember it being slightly accessible, but that some things required some 
> work to access.
> 
> The second use was when your disk was entirely messed up and you wanted to 
> try and correct the HFS structures. This required booting with a CD (probably 
> flash would have worked). It then scans your disk in several ways to restore 
> files that have lost their directory structure or other disk forensics. This 
> was completely inaccessible at the time, and I believe it was essentially a 
> mini system just dedicated to working on the disk drives.
> 
> Though I could n't read the procedures it was quite effective at getting a 
> 3/4 dead disk up enough so that I could copy it to an external drive before 
> replacing the drive.
> 
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> On 28 June 2017 at 12:40, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se 
> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
> Hi!
> From what i remember it should work but it was a bit complicated.
> I really don’t remember what it could do but i remember trying it out.
> /A
> > 28 juni 2017 kl. 17:42 skrev Marshall Scott <mfsc...@mac.com 
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> > Hi Folks,
> > First of all, forgive me if this message is duplicated.  I had a little 
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> > My question is:  Does Disk Warrior work with Voiceover?  I tried  calling 
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Hi Folks,
First of all, forgive me if this message is duplicated.  I had a little trouble 
with my network this morning.
My question is:  Does Disk Warrior work with Voiceover?  I tried  calling 
Alsoft and couldn't get any reliable information.
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iBooks on El Capitan

[Marshall Scott]

Hi,
I'm trying to use iBooks to read a book under El Capitan.  I can't seem to 
access the menu bar.  Is this a bug or am I doing something stupid.  Does 
iBooks work better using Sierra?  And please don't tell me to use my iPhone!
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Re: Accessible smart TV

[Marshall Scott]

Hi,
The model is the Samsung UN32J550AFXZA.  It is a 32 inch model.  I purchased 
two of them to get rid of my CRT TVs.  For convenience, I had a sighted friend 
set them up but according to the ham who put me onto these items, this isn't 
necessary.  Here is a link to a podcast describing the unit.  I hope it's still 
there.

http://buddy.brannan.name/blog/2016/09/audio-demo-samsung-tv-with-accessibility-features/
 


HTH
Marshall



> On Nov 6, 2016, at 12:08 PM, Paul Henrichsen  wrote:
> 
> Hi. Samsung has 2 models starting at around $230. One is not a smart TV, but 
> the higher price one is a smartTV with network capabilities. Got mine at Best 
> Buy for around $270. It is very accessible. Unfortunately, I don't know the 
> model numbers. But, there are two models.
> 
> Paul Henrichsen
> p...@pfhj.org
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, 
>> Somewhat off topic but I hope you can help. I am looking for an accessible 
>> smart tV of around 32 inch screen size. I need audio description and the 
>> ability for a blind person to control the TV either through built-in voice 
>> guidance or via a VoiceOver accessible iPhone app. Can anyone offer any 
>> suggestions?
>> Many thanks.
>> 
>> Paul Hopewell
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Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

[Marshall Scott]

I'd like to know what is gained by using the Lightening port for audio 
input/output.  If it is improved audio quality; I'm not sure it is worth it.  
If it is just to make the iPhone thinner, I think it is too thin already.

I also don't want to use an adapter because it is yet another thing to carry 
around, lose or have it break..

And not being deaf, I was unaware of the issues Johnathon raised.  I think it 
would be a bad idea to block out deaf-blind users regardless of Apple's reasons.

Marshall


> On Sep 3, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Hmm, isn’t there a way of charging the phone with some magnetic charger?
> Like you charge the Apple Watch.
> If thats the problem.
> I can’t see any other problems so please let me know whats so bad about no 
> headphone jack so i can understand.
> /A
>> On 1 Sep 2016, at 10:28, Jonathan Mosen > > wrote:
>> 
>> I'm in full agreement with you mark. The headphone jack removal has a huge 
>> negative accessibility impact for me personally, and I have to hope the 
>> inconvenience factor will cause Apple to regret the day they did this and 
>> reverse it. I frequent a forum for IT professionals here in New Zealand. I'm 
>> the only blind person there, and people are justifiably livid about the 
>> removal of the headphone jack. Most people don't want this, and I suspect 
>> based on what has leaked that the benefits to most people of upgrading will 
>> be so incremental that the lack of a headphone jack will cause a lot of 
>> people to sit it out.
>> That gives me some hope in a situation that has really affected me, because 
>> one thing that this process has taught me since I started blogging about the 
>> possibility of the headphone jack to raise the alarm at a time when it may 
>> have made a difference, is that I was naive to think that blind people might 
>> be any more sensitive to and respectful of the accessibility needs of 
>> others, such as the hearing impaired. I guess I would like to think that 
>> since we know what impact inaccessibility can have on our own lives, we 
>> would be sensitive to the needs of others, even when the issues didn't 
>> affect us directly. But that has proven a stupid pipe dream on my part, and 
>> I've found the whole thing really upsetting. For the most part, it seems 
>> like it's everyone for themselves these days, and if others are being thrown 
>> under the bus, well too damn bad.
>> As a hearing aid wearer, I can't use Apple's ear pods. As a hearing aid 
>> wearer, i need to have my phone connected to the headphone jack almost all 
>> the time I use it. Bluetooth latency is abysmal and not viable for someone 
>> who moves through their phone at a good clip. Even if this were to improve, 
>> Bluetooth drains hearing aid batteries in a profound way and it's difficult 
>> to get through an entire business day of use without the need to charge 
>> something.
>> And if I use the provided lightning adapter, then it appears I can't then 
>> charge my phone while I use my phone. This is the most senseless, selfish, 
>> stupid, user-unfriendly thing Apple has ever done. This company, which 
>> parades their accessibility efforts like some sort of badge of honour, 
>> appears to be about to crap all over one segment of its accessibility market.
>> Something isn't automatically the future because Apple says it is. And 
>> they're going too far this time, alienating too many people. Perhaps, in 
>> time, a USB-C-based solution is going to be viable, and receive carefully 
>> managed industry-wide adoption. But Apple isn't using USB-C on its iDevices. 
>> It's using a proprietary port that it doesn't even offer on its own personal 
>> computers, meaning you won't be able to use the Lightning-based Ear Pods 
>> even with a Mac. That's two sets of headphones you're going to have to carry 
>> around with you, unless you don't mind having an adapter jutting out of the 
>> port you want to charge your phone with. Absolutely absurd.
>> I believe it was Samsung that recently put out a series of ads mocking Apple 
>> over the potential lack of a headphone jack. They know Apple has given them 
>> a great gift. I just wish Android accessibility were more viable for daily 
>> use. Because once my 6s Plus eventually expires, I'm really going to be 
>> stuck. Hopefully, Apple will have seen sense by then because there is 
>> certainly going to be a backlash.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org 
>>> On 1/09/2016, at 6:15 PM, M. Taylor >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Mary,
>>> 
>>> My point is simply that, unlike the era of Jobbs, the market, plays an 
>>> active role in what the future brings.  We, as consumers, have alternatives 
>>> and it's when we begin to explore these alternatives that companies pay 
>>> attention.  
>>> 

Re: Mac book recommendation please

[Marshall Scott]

Hi, Andy,
If you want to have a true portable computer, the Mac Mini is not for you.  It 
is basically designed to be used with a separate monitor and keyboard.

The Mac Book Aire is lightweight and is very portable but I don't know how well 
you would like the keyboard.  It also requires a dongle to conect to an 
Ethernet.   Wyfy is build in.  There is no built in hard drive or DVD drive.

The Mac Book Pro has a hard drive and a DVD drive as well as an Ethernet 
connection and WyFy.

I'm not sure what the Mac Book has in terms of hardware.

HTH

Marshall

> On Jun 28, 2016, at 4:46 PM, Andy  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kimber.
>  
> Thank goodness someone at last understood my request.  Yes, the keyboard is 
> very important to me  as I've very poor sense of touch.
>  
> I've been reading up on the Macbook, the Macbook pro, the Macbook mini and 
> the Macbook Air and I'm completely lost and even more confused.
>  
> So, it's nice to have your recommendation and I'm feeling that I'm at last 
> getting some responce to my enquiries.
>  
> You see, I have no experience at all of Apple products.  All of the Mac's I 
> mentioned above.  I've never ever seen or touched on and all of my friends 
> are Windows, so I'm in a fix.
>  
> So thanks again for your responce.  It's getting me thinking.
>  
> Very best wishes.
> Andy.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Kimberly 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please
>> 
>> The Mac air keyboard is quite good. The keys are full size and have a nice 
>> firmness when typing.
>> 
>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 2:12 PM, Andy > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh Scott.
>>>  
>>> I do need a portable device because I'm going on a 14 day hotel trip later 
>>> this year to train with my new dog, and I simply could not stand being 
>>> stuck in a hotel room with nothing.  Also, I'm hoping to have a holiday 
>>> later this year if I can get the dog out of the way firstly, so again, I 
>>> need something to keep me in contact with civilasation .  In addition, I 
>>> think it would be quite nice to go to my local pub and sit there doing my 
>>> email and other things, so hiring a mac book is no good.
>>>  
>>> You recommend a Macbook Air.  Does that have a tactyle keyboard or is there 
>>> perhaps something better to consider?
>>>  
>>> Very best wishes.
>>> Andy.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> - Original Message - 
 From: Scott Granados 
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 3:45 PM
 Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please
 
 Hi Andy, 
 
 Depends on what you want to do.  A Macbook Air would be a fine option 
 especially for a secondary machine.  Probably low enough on the cost 
 especially on the second hand market.
 
 A pro will give you more horse power but if you already have that IMac I 
 think you’re probably in good shape.
 
 Here’s a whacky idea, what about renting a Macbook Pro for a few days for 
 the training and then going back to your iMac when you’re done.  Less 
 expensive and you don’t end up with hardware you don’t sound like you need.
 
> On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:42 AM, Andy  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
>  
> I have just purchased an imac desk-top computer but in order for me to 
> undergo one-to-one training in my area, I need to buy a second hand 
> portable device.
>  
> Once I have a recomendation, a friend can have a look on Ebay.
>  
> I'd like a mac lap-top and if possible, running El Capitan.
>  
> My sense of touch is very poor so I need a mac book with a pretty good 
> keyboard on it.  I could attach the Apple USB keyboard if necessary, but 
> that's another bit of equipment to carry.
>  
> So should I buy a second hand Mac book pro:  a Mac book or something 
> similar?
>  
> Your advise would be very welcome as I'm just dying to take up this 
> training opertunity.
>  
> Very best wishes.
> Andy.
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Re: Voiceover Crashing My Mac

[Marshall Scott]

Hi,
It sounds like you have found a string that crashes Voiceover.  Try using 
another voice to see if this solves the problem.  If the crashing stops, go 
back to Alex and advance through the strings one at a time until you reach the 
problem string and then change the string to something else and see if this 
fixes the problem.  If you can find eyes this may make finding the problem 
easier.  Please report the string to Apple accessibility.
HTH
Marshall

> On Jun 25, 2016, at 7:31 PM, James Lee  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> I run OSX 10.115 on iMac 5k 27 inch late 2015.
> I'm having a problem Voiceover crashing my computer. I use just Alex voice. 
> Screen just goes black and reboots.
> If someone does the exactly same task without Voiceover, it doesn't happen.
> For example, adding input files in xcode project > build phases > Run Script.
> Also it doesn't happens 100% all the time.
> Looking at /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports, there are bunch of coreaudiod and 
> a couple of kernel files.
> Inside ~/Library/logs/DiagnosticReports, there are bunch of xcode and 
> voiceover files.
> Based on the files, it might have to do with sound device, but I just use 
> system built-in output.
> I never had this problem before. Maybe it's the latest OSX update. It reminds 
> me Windows. I'm not impressed with Apple lately.
> Does anyone have a problem where Voiceover just stops talking, and the 
> computer reboots?
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Re: More Micro SD Card Problems

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I haven't been following this thread too closely but is there a write protect 
switch on the micro sd to sd adapter?
HTH
Marshall

> On Jun 5, 2016, at 3:44 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> You could do worse than to try and manually unmount the disk (without 
> ejecting it) before the erase.  This has worked for me before.  You’ll use 
> Terminal.
> 
> Make sure you use the MBR partition scheme with your FAT file system when 
> creating it.  Use the “Erase” function (as of El Cap) or Partition (for prior 
> versions of OS X) but on the disk, and not the volume.  In other words, 
> select the disk by hardware description, not by volume label, in Disk Utility.
> 
> First, to unmount, find your disk name in Terminal using “diskutil list” and 
> then use “diskutil unmountdisk name” (where “name” is the whole disk).  This 
> unmounts every volume on that disk.  You want a whole device name, like 
> /dev/disk3, for example, and not a slice, like /dev/disk3s1.
> 
> Then go to Disk Utility, select the whole disk in question (it should still 
> be visible), choose Erase, set a volume label and set the scheme to Master 
> Boot Record, and try and erase again.
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> Expand the details view.  Look at the results table.  You should see both 
> partition and mkfs steps.  If it fails, let us know where exactly it failed.
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Re: Connecting external mic

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Hi,
I'm not exactly sure of the details but the 3.5 audio jack on Mac computers is 
different from other types of headsets.  I think it may have to do with the 
audio controls on the Apple headsets.
Marshall

> On Jan 24, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Strange.  I just tried it with a second mic.  That one had separate jacks for 
> input and output.  When I plug in the output jack, everything behaves as 
> expected and the sound from the mac is routed through the headphones.  But 
> when I plug in the input jack, I have the same problem as before.  Very weird.
> 
> Thanks for trying to help.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Jan 24, 2016, at 3:32 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>I’m not sure. I think it might depend on the Mac model and the type of 
>> microphone, but I am far from an audio expert.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
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>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
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>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
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>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2016, at 4:30 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, it connects through the headphone jack.  Does it have to be USB?
>>> Donna
 On Jan 24, 2016, at 3:27 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
 
 What kind is it? Is it USB?
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
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> OK, I just tried restarting the Mac, still no joy.
> Donna
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Re: Using a 2nd Gen Victor Reader Stream with a Mac?

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Hi Sharon,
There are external card readers that connect via USB.  I think they would work 
with a Mac.  I routinely use the card slot on my Mac to load books from 
Audible, Bard and Bookshare.  I think you could also download podcast to the 
Victor Reader Stream if you wanted to do so.
HTH
Marshall

> On Jan 11, 2016, at 4:36 PM, Sharon Hooley  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I have a 4-GB Mac Book Ere with Windows 10 installed.  Is it possible to use 
> a Victor Reader with Mac OS, or Windows on this computer?  Or is there such a 
> thing as a USB card reader?
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> Thanks,
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Podcast order in iTunes

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Hi Folks,
Is it possible to change the order of Podcasts in iTunes in Yosemite?  I'd like 
to move the Recent Updates item from the top of the list of podcasts to the 
bottom of the list.  I tried using Drag and Drop with Voiceover but it didn't 
work.
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Re: VMWare Fusion

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Yes, I have Windows 7 installed along with JAWS.  I can get into Windows but 
can't seem to stay there.  I'm not certain about how to get in and out of the 
Windows 7 window.  Sorry I can't give you a better description of the problem.
Thanks,
Marshall

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> Do you have windows installed on your v m machine?
> 
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> 
> Hi,
> I'm trying to get VMWare Fusion 7 up and running under Yosemite.  I can't 
> seem to get into the Windows 7 window.  I googled and found an article on 
> AppleVis but it isn't helpful.  Any suggestions?
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VMWare Fusion

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Hi,
I'm trying to get VMWare Fusion 7 up and running under Yosemite.  I can't seem 
to get into the Windows 7 window.  I googled and found an article on AppleVis 
but it isn't helpful.  Any suggestions?
Thanks,
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Re: MBP Password update, Voice Over Updating IOS?

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Hi, Ilene,
When you are doing an installation,
Try pressing the Function+Control+F5.  The OS X installer doesn't have the 
ability to switch the function keys from the default.
Hope this makes sense.
Marshall

 On Aug 16, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Eileen Scrivani etscriv...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 Hi,
  
 I have been needing to update my Mac Book Pro since December/January of this 
 past year, but needed help with resetting my Administrative password before I 
 could do the update to Yosemity.  My sighted niece was over today and helped 
 me do the reset, and to make the process easier I unloaded VO with Command 
 +F5. 
  
 There were 2 IOS updates  that the MBP had to go through.  Apparently, it did 
 the first of the two. It is currently downloading the second IOS update to 
 IOS 10.10.5 (I believe that is the correct version). 
  
 Anyway, my niece had to leave and I am now waiting on the download to finish. 
  VO has not come back on.
  
 I have tried re-loading VO by using Command+F5, but it would not come back 
 on.  Should I have used the VO Utility with VO+F8?  Does any one know at what 
 point in this process I will be able to turn Voice Over back on or if it will 
 come up on its own once the down-load is done?
  
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Re: File Vault Encryption ICloud Disk Locking?

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Hi again Ilene,
I'd recommend that you don't use these features until you are more familiar 
with OS X.  They would only confuse you and in the case of Filevault, could 
cause you to lose data.
Marshall

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 In the set-up process of os on my Mac Book Pro, i am being asked if I want to 
 allow File Vault to encrypt my disk, and second if I want to allow ICloud to 
 Unlock my disk and reset my password.  The default is that they are both 
 checked.  I am not an ICloud user at this point and don’t have confidence in 
 using the cloud for my personal/private information.
  
 Question -- how safe  accessible are both of these options if I set both of 
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Re: Burning a cd with the mac.

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Hi,
I've never had any problems using the Superdrive on my Mac Book Pro.  When I 
insert a disk into the drive the drive grabs the disk and sucks it into the 
drive.  When the disk finishs burning the drive spits it out.  If I'm just 
reading a disk I press the eject button.
Marshall

 On Aug 14, 2015, at 2:24 AM, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 
 When burning a cd with the mac, either an Imac or a macbook that has a super 
 drive how hard is it to
 1. eject the disc and
 2. how hard is it to insert/ remove a disc from a super drive?
 I have read on wikipedia that the super drive you need either tweezers, or a 
 card with double sticky tape or disasembling the  mac to get the disc out is 
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Re: Can anyone tell me how to restore/reset Safari on a Mac, as the toolbar seems to have completely disappeared?

[Marshall Scott]

Is there any possibility the user has put the browser in full page mode?
Marshall

 On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:34 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have noticed if you left arrow up the page it skips past the tool bar and 
 gos to the 3 colored buttons for close mim. And then when you are on close 
 right arrow and you will land on toolbar on the 3rd right arrow
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
 Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 07:29
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Can anyone tell me how to restore/reset Safari on a Mac, as the 
 toolbar seems to have completely disappeared?
 
 Ouch!  I know you can go to the Safari menu in the menu bar, and there is a 
 clear history, which deletes all cache, history, etc. but I don't think 
 that's quite what you're looking for.  I know in the Safari menu, there used 
 to be an option to reset Safari, but I just looked, and no kidding!  You're 
 right.  In Yosemite, it seems to be gone.  What the heck!
 
 Chris.
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 3:36 AM
 Subject: Can anyone tell me how to restore/reset Safari on a Mac, as the 
 toolbar seems to have completely disappeared?
 
 
 Hi all
 
 I’m sending this query on behalf of a friend. He was trying to use Safari on 
 his Mac this morning, went to try and enter a website address, and 
 discovered that the toolbar in Safari on his Mac seems to have completely 
 disappeared. `i’ve tried everything I can think of to see if he can get it 
 back, but nothing’s worked. So wondered if anyone knows how he can restore 
 Safari to it’s original settings/how it should be??
 
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Re: My right Command key does not work

[Marshall Scott]

As a last resort,have you tried resetting the PRAM or the SMC?  See

http://www.macworld.com/article/2881177/how-to-reset-your-macs-nvram-pram-and-smc.html

Note: When I clicked the above link, there were a couple of videos that played. 
 The actual information is on the web page.
Marshall

 On Jul 19, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Gerard Doody jerrydood...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, you could reasign the camands if you haven’t done that already.  I am 
 sure you know how.  The other thing I have done when strange things happen is 
 that I repair permissions.  I imagine you know tha that h happens in disk 
 utility.  That stuff though it is a pain, seems to work.  Let me know if that 
 helps. 
 Jerry 
 On Jul 19, 2015, at 9:40 pm, Tom Frank vermont...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 For the last two days, my right Command key does not work as a Command key. 
 The left one works. Right Command Key Q does not quit an application.  Quick 
 nav is turn off and Keyboard help says its a Command key. Any ideas?
 I just tried sending this message with the standard Command Shift D 
 combination and nothing happened. It will go fine with the left Command Shift 
 D combination.
 
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Re: vpn

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Hi, Christie,
I use the Connect to Server item in the Go menu after I make a VPN connection. 
 Then the volume on the remote network is used like a regular volume on your 
Mac.  You'll need to have a user account that gives you access to the 
appropriate area on the remote machine.
HTH

Marshall
 
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 hello everyone I need some help with this ok heres the issue I have vpn 
 connection set up from my computer to my friends in MB it says i'm connected 
 but I cant find the network anywhere to browse for anything we are sharing 
 files for our business where would I find the network thanks again Krysti 
 
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Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over

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Is there any possibility that the Mac hard drive was encrypted?
Marshall

 On Jun 28, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Mauricio Molina mauriciohmol...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 At this point, and I do not have sighted assistance at this time, I will say 
 that I have continued to try using the command+R suggestion to no avail; the 
 log in/password screen always comes up. I have tried holding this key 
 combination soon after pressing the start button and even before pressing the 
 start button without success. I have also used the restart option in the 
 Apple menu with this key combination with the same results. The version of 
 the os is 10.6.8. I have a Windows keyboard connected and for all functions, 
 the Windows keyboard has worked as expected. Oh, and I am aware that the 
 Windows key acts as the command when using this keyboard. I will wait for 
 sighted assistance to try the plan B suggested earlier. 
 
 Thanks for the suggestions and I will keep all posted of my progress. 
 
 Mauricio
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant
 Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 12:44 PM
 To: MacVisionaries List
 Subject: Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over
 
 That’s debatable; with a used Mac, I’d probably want to boot into internet 
 recovery mode just to make sure the Mac went back to factory condition. Of 
 course, like you say, you can’t do this without some sighted help to get you 
 started, so it’s not useful in all situations and I’ll admit is probably 
 overkill.
 
 Grant
 
 On Jun 28, 2015, at 12:16 PM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Command-option-r boots into Internet Recovery which is not useful unless you 
 either have sighted assistance to connect to your wifi network or you connect 
 via ethernet. Command-r is what you want to boot into the recovery partition 
 stored on disk.
 
 
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 On 28 Jun 2015, at 20:06, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, You have to hold down command+option+r right after you press the 
 power button. Also, I would keep holding it down for a few seconds 
 after you hear the startup chime. Then, I would wait like two minutes 
 before trying the command+f5, it seems to take a while before VO is 
 available.
 Hope this helps! Jeff
 
 
 On 6/27/15, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:
 It sounds as though you are not pressing COMMAND+R quickly enough 
 when the Mac starts up. Try pressing the keys sooner, such as 
 immediately when the startup chime starts playing. When I need to 
 enter recovery mode, I press the key combination so quickly that the 
 chime is still playing while the keys are held down.
 
 As well, this is probably overkill, but if you have sighted help 
 around, you could enter internet recovery instead by pressing 
 COMMAND+OPTION+R rather than COMMAND+R. This starts the computer 
 directly from Apple's servers and will allow you to put it back to 
 factory condition, including recreating the recovery partition and 
 installing the version of OS X that originally shipped with the 
 computer. You could then use the Mac App Store to upgrade to the 
 latest version of OS X. If you go this route, which I emphasize is 
 probably unnecessary, you will need sighted help at the beginning as 
 VoiceOver will not be immediately available.
 
 Grant
 
 On Jun 27, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Mauricio Molina 
 mauriciohmol...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 This is the same information I found using Google, but for some 
 reason, it does not work. There is a sign in and password and I use 
 the password to log in at all times. What I am doing is as soon as 
 the MacBook is powered on, I immediately hold down command and the 
 letter R , but I always get to the account log on window. Since 
 command R did not work before the logging in window appears, I hold 
 down the combination after typing the password to log in and this 
 still has not worked. I have not seen anything like the ability to 
 reformat or wipe the system clean to start over. Any ideas?
 
 Mauricio
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders 
 Holmberg
 Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 9:03 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over
 
 
 Hi.you can do that by holding down the command key together with the
 letter R Now you are in the recovery mode.press command F5 to start
 voice-over.here you can do a lot of things. For example there is an 
 option to reinstall the OS and start over.good luck
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Re: Building a website, what's the best way?

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Hi Nancy,
CAVI teaches a course on building a web site.  The cost is $150.  Their web 
site is http://http://wiki.cucat.org.
HTH
Marshall

 On Jun 22, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Nancy Badger nancybad...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this 
 before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a   domain 
 name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a 
 website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide.
 Nancy
 
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 UT Chattanooga
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Fusion and Windows 8.1

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Hi Folks,
I'm about to take the plunge and install Windows 8.1 into a virtual machine.  
Since I've never done a Windows 8.1 install before I have three questions.
1. Can this installation be done without sighted help?
2. Are there any gotchas in the installation process?
3. How do I turn on Narrator after the installation is complete?

Thanks
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Re: organizer suggestions?

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Hi, I guess you missed my post.  The Mac version of Things (possibly 
misspelled) is notaccessible.  There are items marked as unknown in the windows.
HTH
Marshall

 On Jun 12, 2015, at 6:50 AM, Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm going to download a Mac copy from somewhere and see if it's accessible. 
 Will get back with an update.
 
 On 6/12/2015 1:48 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
 thanks for this suggestion.
 Sounds interesting and similar to the Things app..
 Caitlyn
 
 On Jun 11, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Nancy Badger nancybad...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I have not looked at the things app that you all are talking about. 
 However, I was recently at a Franklin Covey productivity training. They 
 have an app which is very accessible. It is free unless you want to sync it 
 with exchange or some other calendar. You can list your roles that is 
 teacher, mother, spouse at Cetera.c then you can list your things to do 
 under each role. You can prioritize things, and give them due dates. I like 
 it a lot. Just my two cents.
 
 Nancy Badger, Ph.D
 Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
 UT Chattanooga
 Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
 
 On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:36 AM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 It’s in the mac app store.  I don’t know if there is a trial version or 
 not..
 There has to be something less costly and that works with vo.
 
 I am going to email the developer and see if they made it vo friendly 
 later today.
 
 Thanks,
 Cait
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:07 PM, Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I can get a copy from  somewhere and test it out for accessibility?
 
 On 6/10/2015 11:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
 I’m asking because I am hoping people here will have suggestions which 
 are both accessible *and* less expensive!!
 
 I gave the name of the app so people could go read about what it does 
 and then hopefully make intelligent suggestions!
 
 Sheesh-you guys amaze me at times!!
 thanks for any help, etc..
 Caitlyn
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Why would she be asking about it if she didn't have a clue on the 
 accessibility of the app?
 
 
 On 6/10/2015 4:09 PM, george b wrote:
 Well if she said it was to expensive why do you think she has it to 
 answer your question???
 
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 Subject: Re: organizer suggestions?
 
 How accessible is it, do you know?
 
 On 6/10/2015 3:55 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
 Hi,
 I was recently pointed toward an app called things.  It’s for the 
 mac, and they have an i phone version.  It’s a to do list and 
 scheduler on steroids!!  I would love to get it, but the price is 
 very steep-about $60.
 
 does anybody have suggestions for a good app like this which doesn’t 
 cost an arm and a leg?
 
 thanks!
 Caitlyn
 
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Re: organizer suggestions?

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Hi,
The Mac version has major accessibility problems.  The iPhone version seems to 
work OK and is accessible.
Marshall

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 Hi,
 I was recently pointed toward an app called things.  It’s for the mac, and 
 they have an i phone version.  It’s a to do list and scheduler on steroids!!  
 I would love to get it, but the price is very steep-about $60.
 
 does anybody have suggestions for a good app like this which doesn’t cost an 
 arm and a leg?
 
 thanks!
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Re: Secure USB Drive

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I think the answer is yes.  When you insert the drive into a Windows machine, 
the drive itself brings up a dialog that requests the password.  If the machine 
is a Mac, you have to start a program that does the same thing.  The drive then 
mounts the encrypted volume.
When you finish with the drive, you use a special dismount command before using 
the eject command (Mac) or the Stop this drive command (Windows).
I can't stress enough to not forget your password!  There isno way to get it or 
the information back if you do.
HTH
Marshall

 On May 20, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thank you for this.  Do you know if you can use the Kingston secure drives on 
 public or computers of friends?  I wouldn’t have admin rights.
 
 Thanks,
 Traci
 
 On May 19, 2015, at 2:19 AM, Marshall Scott mfsc...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi, Tracy,
 if you really want security on a USB drive, you should check out the 
 hardware encrypted USB drives.  I use Kingston drives and they are 
 accessible on OS X and Windows 7.  The advantage is that these drives 
 require a password to mount the drives.  The disadvantage is that if you 
 forget your password, there is no way to recover your data.  And,if someone 
 tries to guess your password, the drive is erased after a number of times.
 Also, TrueCrypt is no longer being developed/supported.
 HTH Marshall
 
 On May 17, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all, I have been googling on various options for having a cross platform 
 secure USB drive.  What do you recommend?  If possible, I’d like a solution 
 that utilizes my existing USB stick.  Though, I’m open to purchasing a new 
 USB drive with security built-in.
 
 Thank you,
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Re: Secure USB Drive

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Hi, Tracy,
if you really want security on a USB drive, you should check out the hardware 
encrypted USB drives.  I use Kingston drives and they are accessible on OS X 
and Windows 7.  The advantage is that these drives require a password to mount 
the drives.  The disadvantage is that if you forget your password, there is no 
way to recover your data.  And,if someone tries to guess your password, the 
drive is erased after a number of times.
Also, TrueCrypt is no longer being developed/supported.
HTH Marshall

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 Hi all, I have been googling on various options for having a cross platform 
 secure USB drive.  What do you recommend?  If possible, I’d like a solution 
 that utilizes my existing USB stick.  Though, I’m open to purchasing a new 
 USB drive with security built-in.
 
 Thank you,
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App Store Preferences WasRe: Wow! Now how cool is that! of a discovery!

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I don't see any preferences for the App Store. Am I stupid or what?
Thanks,
Marshall

 On Apr 14, 2015, at 12:26 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
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 Oh

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Re: App Store Preferences WasRe: Wow! Now how cool is that! of a discovery!

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The checkbox is in the App Store pane in System Preferences. Thanks for the 
help!
Marshall

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 OK, it might be in system prefs under software update, not the app store 
 prefs.  The message wasn't very clear.  Sorry about that.
  
 Chris.
  
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 I don't see any preferences for the App Store. Am I stupid or what?
 Thanks,
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Re: Keys sticking

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Hi, Deb
I would recommend taking it to the Apple Store.  I spilled Coke into my MBP and 
our tech guru disassembled it to clean the resultant mess.  He said there were 
240 itty btty screws that had to be removed to perform the procedure which toke 
him a full day to complete.  Your case doesn't sound quite so bad but the last 
thing you want is to make matters worse.
Marshall

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 Hi:
 My Macbook Pro has a few sticky keys. I suspect something may have slightly 
 spilled in it because it’s only on the left side and not all keys. I found 
 some YouTube videos on how to take the keys apart and clean them but they 
 weren’t very descriptive. what i did get is that it’s quite doable. Has 
 anyone done this and is there any advice on doing it most accessibly? I don’t 
 want to make things worse and I can take it to the Apple store if that’s best 
 but i’m pretty handy with assembly and disassembly so I’d be willing to try 
 if it’s reasonable doable. They’re all still working, just some are quite 
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Re: Bypass Trash

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Hi,
I believe you can set up the Empty Trash function to perform a secure erase 
where the deleted data is overwritten.  You pay a time penalty to do this but 
it will be more secure.
Marshall

 On Jan 26, 2015, at 11:27 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Unlike Windows, there does not seem to be a way to permanently delete a file. 
 It goes to Trash then you Empty Trash. Its a good safety measure but there 
 are times its an unnecessary extra step.
 
 Are either of these apps accessible? Trash X and Trash Without. Or are there 
 other apps that are better?
 
 From The Believer. . .
 . . . what if it were true?
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Re: Parallels

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Hi,
I checked this earlier this year and the problem wasn’t with running JAWS 
within Parallels.  The problem was with The Mac interface to Parallels.  The 
Menu bar wasn’t accessible with Voiceover.  I didn’t test any further.
Marshall

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 I heard that it wasn’t accessible at all.
 On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com 
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 Hi all,
 
 I hear a lot of people talking about VMWare on this list but don’t hear a 
 lot of discussion about Parallels for Mac. Is anybody using Parallels to run 
 Windows apps, as well as a screen reader, within OS X and how do you find 
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Select ContiguousItems

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Hi,
I feel really stupid but I can't figure out how to select contiguous items in 
the finder.  There used to be a procedure where one selected the first item, 
moved to a second item and everything in between would be selected by pressing 
the appropriate keys.  I can't seem to find the new procedure documented in 
Help.
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Adding File/Folder to Dock

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How does one add a file/folder to the Dock in Lion?
Thanks,
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Re: Keyboard issues with fusion, suggestions?

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 Hi,
 
 Here are my Sharpkes mappings
 Grave to Special Caps Lock
 Left Alt to Left Windows
 Left Windows to Left Alt
 Right Windows to Applications
 
 
 After I get these keys remapped I switch to the Laptop layout in JAWS.  This 
 seems to solve the JAWS/Insert Key problem.  It also fixes the reversal of 
 the Windows and Alt Keys.  Note that the Keypad layout on the Mac is 
 different from the keypad layout on a Windows machine.  Things like the Route 
 PC to JAWS and Route JAWS to PC are in different locations on the Mac 
 keyboard but you can learn the new locations by using JAWS keyboard help.
 
 As far as the sound goes, I Launch the VIrtual Machine and then turn off 
 Voiceover.  After I login to the Windows machine, I press Control-Command to 
 move to the Mac and turn Voiceover back on.  I then use Command-G to return 
 to the Windows machine.  I can then switch back and forth by using 
 Control-Command and Command-G.
 
 I hope this helps.

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Re: Windows on the mac question

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Hi,
I' used SharpKeys to remap the tilde key to the Insert key as well as 
reassigning a few other keys.  This works fine and is much easier than changing 
the keymapping.
Marshall

On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

 Thanks Kevin.
 
 Keep me posted and may be write off list so as not to clutter everyone's 
 boxes as others may be not interested.  I'd need some detailed instructions 
 in case I had to do anything.
 On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:
 
 I found some data on remapping keys on the mac keyboard. Its a bit of a unix 
 challenge and I am still working through the challenges of doing it. Based 
 on my research. the Mac help key is the insert key on the standard keyboard. 
 For macbooks and the keyboards minus a number pad, this key isn't available. 
 I can't make any promises but I'll try and map an existing key to this key 
 and script it. I haven't done any real unix scripting for 10 years or so and 
 therefore, I'm real rusty at it. 
 
 In the meantime, if someone comes up with something else, that'd be great. 
 
 I remember the classic laptop keyboard configurations being an option in 
 earlier versions of jaws but that doesn't seem to be available anymore.
 
 Kev
 On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Hi Kev.
 
 Glad you have bought this subject up.  I'm having the same problem.
 
 Some time ago, Mark Taylor wrote a message asking people to tell him how 
 others got a jaws cursor.  I'm having the same difficulty and need a jaws 
 cursor.  So if anyone can kindly tell us how they get around this problem, 
 I'd be so grateful.  I desperately need a jaws cursor.  Sharp keys will not 
 help me.
 
 Kawal.
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 I'm running vmware fusion on my mac with windows 7. I'm having an issue 
 getting jaws to recognize the caps lock key as the jaws key. When I try 
 and use it in windows, it continues to recognize it as the caps lock key. 
 
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Re: mail refuses to show me some of my messages and shows an empty table instead?

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HI,
I've also seen this problem.  I assumed that it was just a latency problem 
between the client and the server.
Marshall


On Jun 15, 2010, at 7:33 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

 I understand and I have not seen it happen to often, but when it does, it 
 makes one nuts. I have not seen this much lately and I'm trying to recall 
 what I did to resolve the problem or at least something I did must have 
 helped. If I can recall, I will let you know.
 On Jun 15, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 I sure am. and I'm not loving this. it is driving me up the wazoo.
 
 I hope there is a fix for this at some point.
 
 S
 On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:17 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 I have seen this and I am not sure of a solution. I speculate it is an 
 issue with the imap connection and I may be wrong, but if imap, you are 
 seeing this with Gmail then.
 
 On Jun 14, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Ok this is odd. I have a recording link for you.
 
 mail refuses to show me all of my messages. When I tab to a folder on the 
 imap section I hear messages, table. that's it. it takes sometimes up to 5 
 minutes for the messages  to show up
 
 any help would be welcome.
 
 Thanks and here is the link.
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/mail%20won%27t%20show%20me%20all%20the%20messages.m4a
 Hopefully the link is live when the message shows up to the list.
 
 Take care all.
 
 
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 website: http://music.marrie.org
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Re: Strange behavior in menus on Macbook Pro

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Hi,
I had a similar problem when I had the mouse cursor tracking set to follow the 
Voiceover cursor.  You should try setting your mouse cursor to ignore Voiceover 
cursor by doing the following:
1. Press F8 to bring up the Voiceover utility.
2 Press Shift VO downarrow to interact with the Utility Catagories table.
3. VO downarrow until you reach the navigation item.
4 Press Shift VO Uparrow to stop interacting with the Utility Catagories table.
5 Use VO Right arrow to move to the Mouse Cursor pop up menu
6. Press VO Spacebar to activate the menu.
7 Select Ignore from the pop up menu.
8. Close Voiceover Utilities.
HTH
Marshall

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On Jun 13, 2010, at 3:43 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

 I wonder if you have a set of eyes that can look and see if there is 
 something going on. My other two suggestions is to setup another account if 
 you do not have one, log into this account and see if you have the same 
 problem. If not, you may have a corrupted plist file. What you can do is 
 track down the VOiceOver plists and blow them away. Once you relaunch VO, 
 they will be recreated. The various plists can be found in 
 ~/Library/Preferences. The ` indicates your home folder and the files you are 
 looking for will be obvious, but they will start with com.apple and you want 
 to look for the VoiceOver files. I would save this as the last step.
 
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Re: Turning off the Trackpad

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Hi Anna,
The simplest way to disable the trackpad is to plug in a USB mouse and then go 
to the Universal Access pane in System Preferences, click on the Mouse  
Trackpad tab and then check the Ignore Trackpad when Mouse is present 
checkbox.
HTH
Marshall

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 How do you turn off the trackpad on a MacBook Pro? I keep touching it 
 accidentally, and unexpected things happen. I'm up for only one learning 
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Re: VO crashing when I launch keynote!

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Hi Olivia,
Have you tried clearing the cache and reseting Safari in the Safari menu?  How 
about turning off the pop-up blocker?
Marshall
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On Jun 8, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Olivia Norman wrote:

 Here's one of the links I've experienced the issue where VO constantly 
 crashes and instead of interacting with the HTML content, launches the system 
 greeting.  I have repaired my permissions and restarted, with no luck.  I've 
 also reset my preferences.  Any suggestions?
 http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1006ad9g4hjk/event/index.html
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Oracle Voiceover

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Hi FOlks,
I need to redesign a server based multiuser relational database I designed for 
my work.  Does anyone have any experience with Oracle under Voiceover?  Any 
other suggestions?
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Re: Oracle Voiceover

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Hi Chris,
Unfortunately, that's exactly what it is.
Marshall

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 I thought most databases were just command-line SQL driven affairs and don't 
 really have a GUI. So if you're doing standard LAMP stuff (or MAMP) you have 
 Apache for web serving, PHP to glue the web stuff to the database and MySQL 
 (or Oracle) for the database all hosted on Linux (or Mac OSX). The UI should 
 just be a web browser, unless this is some old-school thing with a 
 proprietary front end.
 
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Re: IPhone 4, and IAds

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Hi Jes,
Earlier this week, I expressed the same concerns.  Since then, I've read enough 
to convince me that iAd won't interfere with apps running on the iPhone.  I'm 
still concerned about security.  I'm also concerned about the cost (to me) of 
these ads.  I've expressed my concerns to accessibil...@apple.com and on this 
list so I won't say any more.
Marshall

On Apr 9, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Goodnight Jes,
 
 From what I have read, the ads seem like they will be out of the way.  You 
 will only see the entire add by tapping on the banner.  The ads must be 
 approved by Apple so that might eliminate the concerns about spyware.  But I 
 guess nothing is 100% safe.
 
 hth
 On Apr 9, 2010, at 9:56 PM, Jess wrote:
 
 My question was would Ads lead to spyware or adware, and would it interfere 
 with what I would be doing on the IPad.
 Jes
 
 On Apr 9, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
 
 I guess you can't handle the truth. If you don' want ads I suggest you just 
 disconnect your computer and donate it. 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Apr 9, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Jess theeternal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Charlie wrote:
 The next thing I expect to hear from you is there's a communist under 
 your bed grow up! Facebook and twitter are littered with ads now.
 Apparently you haven't used apps like Syrinx or Twittero, they don't give 
 you any ads from Twitter or facebook. I realize that ads aren't going 
 away, but if I don't want to see an ad, I shouldn't have to be forced to 
 look at it. And by the way, leave the communist crap out of it.
 Jes
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 The next thing I expect to hear from you is there's a communist under 
 your bed grow up! Facebook and twitter are littered with ads now. 
 Developer need an income stream do you want free apps to vanish. Get real.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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 Hi folks,
 
 I am disappointed with the introduction of IAds in IPhone 4.0. If I'm 
 browsing the web or looking at facebook and v o starts reading an ad, I 
 would be annoyed. Also, can we just say, ad ware for the IPhone? As in 
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Re: Solution for (some) iTunes problems?

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Hi Folks,
I don't if this will help or not but there was an article that suggested that 
upgrading Flip4Mac helped with some iTunes 9.1 problems.
Marshall
On Apr 1, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Howard Dupuis wrote:

 Hello all. I may have found the reason why iTunes was crashing, for me
 at least. Perhaps others who had been experiencing the same will
 benefit.
 If the mouse cursor tracks the VO cursor, iTunes will crash -- easily
 and often -- especially when mucking around with the playlist browser.
 (A very helpful soul identified the prefs as the problem. So I reset
 them, and then changed things, one by one, until iTunes crashed again.
 Finally got it, I'm pretty sure.)
 This is odd, really, as I don't normally have the mouse cursor
 tracking the VO cursor, but had ended up with that setting after my
 preferences had reset themselves -- as they tend to do every once in
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 setting the prefs. Won't do that again!
 And, I can now check out the new iTunes.
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Re: disclosure?

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Hi Donna,
Checking this box expands the dialog to include things like the choice of view 
in the table and some other navigation aids.  Try clicking it.  You won't hurt 
anything.
Marsh

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 In the Save as Dialog in Text Edit, there is a checkbox that simply  
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Re: speech muting

[Marshall Scott]

Hi,
I found out the hard way that a certain multi finger tap will mute  
speech.  I think it was a 3 finger double tap.  Anyway, I think it's  
similar to the turn screen curtain on/off command.
HTH
Marsh

On Nov 3, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:


 Hello Erik,

 The speech muting problem is the one I was asking about a couple of
 weeks ago. I haven't got a recent machine with a multi-touch trackpad,
 but several people on my French list have reported this problem. I
 shall pass on your solution to them as it's much better than throwing
 away a preference file.

 Cheers,

 Anne

 On Nov 3, 2009, at 2:31 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:


 Hi guys.  I'm playing around with the track pad commander and I can't
 get it to do much.

 One of the things I have been able to do with it though is mute
 speech .  Please don't ask me how I accomplish this.  I' couldn't
 begin to tell you .  Fortunately I have mmy braile display here and  
 so
 all is not lost.  In fact, muting speech is the ideal comfort zone  
 for
 me when using the braille display.

 The thing is, I'm not muting the speech intentionally.  I'm just
 cruzing arount the screen when VO says speech muted and stops
 talking.  When I go into voice over utility and look at the mute  
 check
 box it is unchecked.  If I check it and then uncheck it, I still get
 no speech.  If I turn voiceover off then back on I get welcome to
 voiceover and then I get speech muted and then I get no speech.  If I
 make a volume adjustment using command vo up and down then speech
 comes right back, even though neither the system volume or the vo
 volume are turned down.

 Has any one else seen this?  It's happened to me twice in the last 3
 days.  I'd like to just ditch this trackpad commander.  To me it is
 starting to look like more trouble than it's worth.  Unfortunately I
 might have to teach it and so I need to hang in there for a while yet
 and see if I can make it happen.

 Best,

 erik burggraaf
 A+ certified technician and user support consultant.
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VMWare Fusion 3 released

[Marshall Scott]

Folks,
VMWare has released Fusion 3.  It's main claim to fame is Snow Leopard  
compatibility.  The upgrade cost is 39.95 and the URL is:

http://www.vmware.com/go/buyfusion

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iPod Touch Was: Oppose. Should have introduced myself

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Hi Kevin,
I just purchased an iPod Touch last week and have been playing with it  
off and on since last Friday.  I'm not having much trouble doing basic  
navigation but I'm still having trouble typing text into the iPod.   
I'm slowly getting better at it.  I think there was a thread on this  
list about typing so you might want to look for it.
I'l be glad to answer any questions I can.
Marshall

On Sep 24, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:


 Howard and others,
   My wife wants an iPod Touch as a stop-gap before switching to an
 iPhone, which switch will be dependent on whether Apple opens the  
 iPhone to
 other providers at the end of their current ATT contract.  Would  
 anyone who
 has a Touch with the 3.1 OS share their experiences operating it,
 particularly with respec tto typing and wi-fi?
 Thanks,
 Kevin
 kevj...@gmail.com


 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Howard Dupuis
 Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:43 PM
 To: MacVisionaries
 Subject: Re: Oppose. Should have introduced myself



 Hi Kevin. While I've been a member of this group for only a matter  
 of weeks,
 and switched over to the Mac just nine months ago, I'd like to make  
 a point:
 I didn't make the switch casually, or easily, or without a whole lot  
 of
 thought. And after I made the move, I continued to use my Windows  
 computer
 -- running JAWS -- for some time. But I'm here to tell you that I  
 never turn
 that old thing on these days. Sure, I'll admit to having the zeal of  
 the
 recently converted, but it's not without good reason. I'm betting that
 you'll be very happy with what you find. I'm writing this on my  
 MacBook Air,
 and I've got a Mac Mini in the other room operating as a music  
 server. (I
 also just got an iPod Touch, but that's another story.) Welcome!  
 I've been
 finding this to be a great group, helpful, knowledgeable, sometimes  
 even
 pretty funny. Enjoy your lurking. Howard

 Kevin Gibbs wrote:
 Dear All,
My name is Kevin Gibbs and I should have introduced myself.  I'm
 new to Mac Visionaries.  My wife's interest in an iPhone, combined
 with the appearance of Snow Leopard, are just two of the reasons why
 I've taken an interest in switching from Windows to Mac.  My wife  
 is a
 long time sighted Mac user who has been trying to convert me for
 years.  Unfortunately, until SL came along, I wasn't convinced I  
 could
 function on a Mac.  Now, while I'm still examining the specifics of
 certain operational situations peculiar to the music business, I've
 decided I can't wait to become a Mac user.  It still may take me a
 minute to actually cough up the dough.  But I definitely will.
 Meanwhile, I plan to lurk around here and learn as much as I can.
 Thanks, Kevin


 



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Re: How can I turn that frustrating trackpad of.

[Marshall Scott]

Annie,
Try plugging in a mouse and then check Disable Trackpad if Mouse is  
present in the Universal Access system preference.
HtH
Marshall

On Sep 14, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:


 Hi.

 The trackpad is frustrating me, suddenly it starts up in text edit or
 in nisus writer. I have tried to turn it of under voiceover setting,
 it helps, but sometimes it turns itself on again.

 I would like to use the trackpad, but I am in doubt about, what the
 advantage could be. I do not feel that I can control my keyboard, when
 the trackpad is turned on.

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Re: A Question About Snow Leopard Folders

[Marshall Scott]

Mark,
A spring loaded folder will open if you hover the mouse over the  
folder for a period of time.  I don't use them so I can't tell you  
anything else.
Marshall

On Sep 8, 2009, at 12:52 AM, M. Taylor wrote:


 Hello Everyone,

 What are Spring Loaded Folders?


 Thank you,

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Re: I'm not so impressed with s l.

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Hi James,
In Voiceover Utility, go to Navigation.  There is a pop-up menu for  
Mouse Tracking.  I've set mine to Ignore.
HTH
Marshall

On Sep 4, 2009, at 7:07 AM, James  Nash wrote:


 Do you know which options to change to fix the issue please?
 - Original Message -
 From: Jonathan C. Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:42 PM
 Subject: Re: I'm not so impressed with s l.



 I think this specific issue has been around since Tiger. Essentially
 the system is trying to read where the mouse moved to but also the VO
 cursor moved too.  The solution is to force mouse reading off when
 mouse follows VO.  I especially had problems with web pages that had
 verbose graphical descriptions when I had Mouse follows voice and
 voice speaks on.

 I think that jaws had these issues for a while, but most people didn't
 even know how to lock the jaws cursor and virtual cursor to  each  
 other.
 Jon

 On Sep 4, 2009, at 5:14 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


 Hi,
 Speaking about mouse cursor behaviours, i know i have reported this
 here earlier and i have reported it to Apple accessibility who didn't
 understand what i was talking about, but has anyone noticed that when
 you have mouse cursor follow VO cursor, text under the cursor gets
 read two or more times, and this happens every time i move the  
 cursors
 with arrow keys? This happens if i have the checkbox to read text
 under the mouse after a delay checked. If i have it unchecked, the
 problem disappears but then i don' get any feedback when moving the
 mouse at all. Also it doesn't matter how long time i set the delay
 for, it keeps reading the text two or more times at aprox the same
 time.
 Over all though, SL is working very well for me and i don't want to  
 go
 back to the old leopard, that cat is retired after having done a good
 job.
 /Krister

 4 sep 2009 kl. 10.55 skrev John André Netland:


 Hi Tony,

 To avoid getting stuck in menus etc., go to VO Utilities, enter the
 navigation category and set the mouse cursor to ignore the VO  
 cursor.
 This will make navigation in menus etc. work just fine. For now, you
 must use the move mouse cursor to VO cursor shortcut to have them
 at
 the same location. I suppose this issue will be fixed in the near
 future.

 Thanks,
 John André


 On 4. sep.. 2009, at 09.55, Tony Bernedal wrote:


 Hi all.
 Spending yesterday evening with snow leopard and I must say that  
 I'm
 not very impressed.
 Here is my observations so far.
 - VO gets stuck in submenus and also jumps over menu items. This
 have
 been discussed here before.
 - In swedish translation vo says k l instad of at for the @-symbol.
 - Safari and vo don't work well in html version of gmail and don't
 work at all in google reader. And safari often crashes.
 But there are some good points with s l. it's a bit faster and more
 responsive but I'm thinking of restoring my mb back to leopard to
 get
 the web and the menus working great again until apple fix them.
 Does anyone here have any ideas how to fix the issues I'll be  
 happy,
 otherwise I roll back to leopard.
 Have a nice weekend.
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Open Office security vulnerabilities

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Folks,
Forgive the cross-posting, but I know some of you use Open Office.
I noticed a message on a security list I'm on that stated that there  
are two high level security vulnerabilities in Open Office.  The  
affected version is Open Office 3.1 and there patches available from 
http://www.openoffice.org 
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Re: welcome dialog

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Also, I think pressing v will stop this feature
Marshall

On Aug 31, 2009, at 3:00 AM, william lomas wrote:


   Hi for the person who did not want to be told to learn voiceover, at
 startup each time, turn it off in the general utilities settings of
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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver

[Marshall Scott]

Hi Josh et. al.
I agree on both counts.
Marshall

On Aug 28, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:


 Cheers Josh, really well written review, seems to be pretty thorough.

 I must, must, must make it to an Apple store today.  This is the
 excuse I've needed to buy a book on Apple Script and actually learn
 something.

 Scott

 On 8/28/09, Maccessibility nore...@maccessibility.net wrote:

 Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver

 We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard  
 with
 VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest  
 iteration of
 Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users  
 perspective.
 As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts  
 on Snow
 Leopard.

 You can read the rest of this news item at:
 http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/

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Re: Has anyone ever booted from tdm?

[Marshall Scott]

Ben,
I'm not sure if this will work or not but here goes:

1. On the iMac, go to System Preferences and click on the Startup Disk  
button.
2. Press the Boot in Target mode button.
3. The machine should restart.
4. Connect the iBook and iMac with a Firewire cable.
5 Boot the iBook.

HTMS

Marshall

On Aug 21, 2009, at 8:13 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote:


 Hey all.

 I have a ibook with no harddrive in it. Before I delv into its
 internals I want to make sure that all the existing parts have no
 strange faults that would render the system unusable when it has a
 harddrive in it. I'd like to be able to connect the ibook to my emac
 and use the tiger install on the emac to boot the ibook but i'm
 getting conflicting messages about if this can be done or not.

 I'd be interested in hearing from anyone that has done this before -
 what exactly did you do? did osx find sound drivers?

 Fyi, I did try connecting a drive via usb and installing tiger on it
 but it appears that osx can only boot from firewire volumes.

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Re: Finder warning dialogs not speaking

[Marshall Scott]

Anna,There are a couple of things you can check:

1. In Voiceover Utility, go to the Verbosity item and click on the  
Announcements tab.  Make sure the Automatically speak text in dialog  
boxes checkbox is checked.

2. In System Preferences, go to the Speech pane and select Text to  
Speech.  See if the Announce when alerts are displayed checkbox is  
checked.

HTH

Marsh


On Jul 30, 2009, at 7:13 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:


 I generally have not had a problem with these. They do not take focus,
 but you generally get a message saying Finder has a new window.
 Sometimes there are groups that you need to interact with that VO
 just says Unknown.  I don't think Leopard has any in the system
 software, but I did come across these occasionally when running Tiger.

 Jon

 On Jul 29, 2009, at 11:06 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:


 Hi,

 I moved a portable drive while copying some items to it, and it got
 disconnected. When I tried to do other things with Finder, I got
 warning messages saying the operation couldn't be completed. This
 would be fine, except that the warning dialogs didn't speak, nor did
 the buttons needed to deal with them. The only reason I know they  
 were
 there is because my sighted husband helped me with them. Is there
 anything I can do to make these types of dialog boxes speak should I
 run into a similar situation in the future?

 Thanks,
 Anna





 



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Re: 15 inch vs 17inch

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The one difference I know of is that the new 17 inch still has an  
Express slot.
Marsh
On Jul 25, 2009, at 4:41 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

 To the best of my knowledge yes, you can get pretty much the same  
 stuff on the 15-inch as the 17-inch. Of course check either on the  
 site or call Apple's sales department to verify, but I'm pretty  
 sure. I think the difference is some items are standard on the 17  
 that may not be on the 15 as stock, but available as upgrades on the  
 15.
 On Jul 25, 2009, at 6:31 AM, a radix wrote:

 Hello, Am I right in thinking thatthe only difference between the  
 15 inch and 17 inch laptops is the screen? I mean you can get the  
 top config on the 15 inch right?
 Also, i know all the laptops have the glossy display but can you  
 also get the matte display or can you only do this for the 17 inch?
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Re: MacBook Pro Speakers

[Marshall Scott]

Hi Keith,
I own the new 13 inch MBP and I cannot tell any differench MBP and an  
older 15 inch MBP.  I cannot tell any difference between the volume  
levels of the two machines.  Your second question about quality of the  
sound is too subjective for me to give you an answer.  If you are  
worried about sound queality; I'd use external speakers.
HTMS
Marsh
On Jul 24, 2009, at 2:34 AM, Keith Bucher wrote:


 Hello,

I would like to hear from anyone who owns or has seen the 13 and 15
 inch MacBook Pro models MB991ll/a or the MC118ll/a.

I saw them in a Best Buy, but it was fairly noisy.  The 15 inch
 model had speakers on each side of the keyboard, while the 13 inch
 model's speakers seemed to be either in the screen or just beneath
 it.

I'd like any opinions on any difference anyone has heard in the
 volume of the speakers between these two models.  To me, the 15 inch
 MC118ll/a sounded a bit louder, but I wasn't able to determine if it
 would be loud enough to justify the approximate $200 increase in
 price.  I have been unable to find specifications on the size of
 the speakers used in each model.  But from what I could tell in that
 fairly noisy environment, the quality of the sound sounded fairly
 similar when comparing these two computers.  Thanks for any
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I thought this may come in handy was Fwd: Canadian Government Asking Public about Copyright

[Marshall Scott]

tHi,
Lists:

Because of all the copyright things that have been discussed on list  
recently, Ithought some Canadians may be interested to hear the news  
and have a say in Canadian Copyright.

Regards,
Alex,



Begin forwarded message:

 From: Bill bi...@uniserve.com
 Date: July 22, 2009 2:13:23 PM PDT
 To: van...@robomod.net
 Subject: Re: Canadian Government Asking Public about Copyright

 On Wed, 2009-22-07 at 15:53 -0400, Jose Da Silva wrote:
 Just saw this on slashdot right now, thought it worth  putting
 in the list here in case readers here don't see slashdot.

 Watch out for long-line wrap.
 http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/07/22/1756242/Canadian-Govt-Asks-Public-About-New-Copyright-Law


 Following one of the links:
 Joseph Potvin, an economist at the Chief Information Officer Branch,
 Treasury Board Secretariat, writes to note that the Government's
 copyright consultation is running on open source software.  The
 consultation is using a Mongrel server built in Ruby-On-Rails on a
 GNU/Linux machine.  Sometimes actions speak louder than words.


 OTOH:

 The notice of this Monday Round Table meeting wasn't issued
 until last Friday. We had hints in the middle of last week,
 but the website didn't go active until Monday.

 Several people were issued invitations to the private
 Round Table meeting here in Vancouver. Others requested an
 invitation and were granted one. On behalf of Vanlug and
 FLOSS I requested an invitation and was told there were no
 more seats available. In fact there was no one present from
 the software industry. I was told there would be other
 opportunities in Toronto and Montreal - as if there would
 be unlimited seats available there.

 The consultation process will continue until September 13.
 There are forum discussions on 5 critical topics. Written
 submissions will also be accepted. Get involved.
 http://copyright.econsultation.ca/

 Along with the other members of the Vancouver Fair Copyright
 Coalition, I am working now to organize a response to
 persuade people to contribute to the process. So stay tuned.


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Folks,
I didn't mean to send this message.  I guess I need to have my morning  
coffee IV.
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Re: shutting down virtual Windows without speech

[Marshall Scott]

Hi Anna,
If you are running Fusion, go to the Virtual Machines menu and select  
the Power Off item. QAn are you sure type dialog should appear and the  
virtual machine should shut down.
Marsh

On Jul 23, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:


 Hi Robert,

 I tried that, but nothing happened, so Windows must be locked up as
 well. It's the kind of situation where if I were using a PC, I would
 turn off the computer to force a restart.

 Best,
 Anna



 On Jul 23, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Robert Carter wrote:


 Hi Anna,

 If I am understanding your question, you just shutdown windows in
 the normal way by pressing the command key to open the start menu
 and press the letter u twice. Assuming that the problem with speech
 has not locked up windows, you will hear the familiar shutdown music.

 Robert Carter

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 From: Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 9:47:08
 Subject: shutting down virtual Windows without speech




 Hi,

 Thanks to everyone who helped me with my virtual Windows issue. I
 installed Fusion, and all is well! There are times, though, when
 something goes wrong and I lose speech and need to force Windows to
 shut down. How can I do this in virtual Windows? I don't see any
 toolbar or menu in Fusion that would make this possible.

 Thanks,
 Anna





 



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Re: mac more sensative to lightning?

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Hi,
How do you know it was lightening?  What was the other problem you  
were working on?  Maybe the Mac was in the process of dying and the  
lightening had nothing to do with the Mac dying.
Marsh

On Jul 9, 2009, at 10:02 PM, Mike Reiser wrote:


 Nothing else that was in the serge protector was effected.  The  
 internet
 is connected through a netowrk drop on the wall.  My speakers are also
 plugged into the serge protector.  The keyboard isn't and it's usb,  
 and
 also the monitor adapter isn't.  What's wierd is it stopped working
 after the Apple store employee had me reset the pram.  Thanks,

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Re: MacBook Pro

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Hi James,
I would definitely recommend the MBP.  We are using 5 of them at work  
and have had no problems as far as the OS X side of tthings.  On the  
Windows side of things, the only problem is that the keys don't map  
quite right for JAWS.  There are workarounds for this problem.
Marsh

On Jul 5, 2009, at 7:59 AM, James  Nash wrote:

 Hi folks,

 Would people recommend the MacBook Pro as i am looking for an Apple  
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Re: MacBook Pro

[Marshall Scott]

I should add that I'm eagerly awaiting a brand spanking new 13 inch  
Mac Book Pro.  Hopefully, it will be here this week.  I just thought  
of something else that I don't like.  The batteries in the new MBP's  
are not user replaceable.  However, this isn't such a big problem  
because I don't travel much and therefore don't need battery power  
very often.
Marsh

On Jul 5, 2009, at 8:46 AM, James  Nash wrote:

 Thanks Marshall
 - Original Message -
 From: Marshall Scott
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:43 PM
 Subject: Re: MacBook Pro

 Hi James,
 I would definitely recommend the MBP.  We are using 5 of them at  
 work and have had no problems as far as the OS X side of tthings.   
 On the Windows side of things, the only problem is that the keys  
 don't map quite right for JAWS.  There are workarounds for this  
 problem.
 Marsh

 On Jul 5, 2009, at 7:59 AM, James  Nash wrote:

 Hi folks,

 Would people recommend the MacBook Pro as i am looking for an Apple  
 laptop so that I can have some portability.

 Thanks

 James






 


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Re: ITV player

[Marshall Scott]

Hi Søren,
I'm sorry I haven't gotten back to you sooner; but my home network  
didn't want to play and I just got it fixed.  Yes, that's the  
program.  What hardware are you using and will it interface with  
digital cable?  Perhaps you'd better answer off list, since this is  
straying away from Voiceover.
Thanks,  Marsh

On Jun 20, 2009, at 1:28 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:


 Hi.

 I have never heard about ITv, but I'm using a program called EyeTv
 which is a tv-program which lets you watch tv from a connected tv-
 tuner. The program is not 100% accessible, but you can switch between
 the channels and record the channel you are currently watching. Is
 that the program you're talking about?
 Best regards
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

 On 19/06/2009, at 23.23, Brent Harding wrote:


 Analog cable will probably work, but digital gives trouble. If
 you're like
 me and have a box, you'd need an infrared blaster. I don't think I
 could get
 the Macbook pointed at it just right from the couch though.

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 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:18 PM
 Subject: Re: ITV player



 If it's what I think it is, it's hardware/software that allows one  
 to
 play TV on the Mac.  I'm hoping I can connect my cable to an older
 Mac
 so I can listen to TV.
 Marsh

 On Jun 19, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Jane Jordan (Gmail) wrote:


 Can I ask, belatedly, what iTV player is?

 Jane



 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marshall  
 Scott
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:24 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITV player


 I'm interested in this as well.  Plese post to the list
 Marsh

 On Jun 19, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Wendy Mitchell wrote:


 Hi,

 I wonder if the person who sorted out the itv player can let ne
 know
 how to get it on my mac.

 might be worth contacting me off list so as not to cause clutter  
 on
 stuff that's already been on.

 From Wendy.






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Re: ITV player

[Marshall Scott]

I'm interested in this as well.  Plese post to the list
Marsh

On Jun 19, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Wendy Mitchell wrote:


   Hi,

 I wonder if the person who sorted out the itv player can let ne know
 how to get it on my mac.

 might be worth contacting me off list so as not to cause clutter on
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Re: ITV player

[Marshall Scott]

If it's what I think it is, it's hardware/software that allows one to  
play TV on the Mac.  I'm hoping I can connect my cable to an older Mac  
so I can listen to TV.
Marsh

On Jun 19, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Jane Jordan (Gmail) wrote:


 Can I ask, belatedly, what iTV player is?

 Jane



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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marshall Scott
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:24 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITV player


 I'm interested in this as well.  Plese post to the list
 Marsh

 On Jun 19, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Wendy Mitchell wrote:


  Hi,

 I wonder if the person who sorted out the itv player can let ne know
 how to get it on my mac.

 might be worth contacting me off list so as not to cause clutter on
 stuff that's already been on.

 From Wendy.






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I'm a bad boy

[Marshall Scott]

Hi FOlks,
Well, I couldn't stand it anymore.  I broke down and ordered one of  
the new 13 inch Mac Book Pro's.  I'm looking forward to trying out the  
trackpad gestures.  Also, I needed a bigger hard drive as well.
Ah, heck, who am I kidding.  I just wanted a new toy!
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Re: Just waht is off topic here

[Marshall Scott]

Hi Folks,
Make it 4 votes.  I really don't want another list.  I fear that  
people will have something that just has to be cross posted to every  
list even vaguely related to a topic.  I can use the delete key quite  
effectively if the subject is not of interest.
Marsh

On Mar 24, 2009, at 10:11 PM, peter Apgar wrote:


 Motion has been seconded and the vote is being counted.  Three yeas .

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tiffany D
 Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:15 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Just waht is off topic here


 Agreed.  Those of us who use VoiceOver may not be on all the  
 technology
 lists and if it's something that benefits us all, I think we should  
 hear
 about it.

 On 24/03/2009, Greg Kearney gkear...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just what qualifies as off topic and can there by bring down the
 wrath of the moderators here. If I had, for example included a post
 saying that I had worked out a bill scanner under OS X would that be
 permitted? I think we could stand to grant some slack here so long as
 it is somewhat related to VO and the Mac and or similar technologies.

  
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