subject:"Bootable usb stick is not bootable."

Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

2018-01-16 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi!
Ok, thanks for that hint mark.
I have tried the option key method though but was not sure how many down arrow 
presses i should do.
I tried with one but that did not help.
But i try things out here.
Thanks in advance for your help.
/A

> 15 jan. 2018 kl. 21:31 skrev M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu>:
> 
> Anders,
> 
> As I recall, in all previous versions of Mac OS, even if the bootable stick 
> is prepared correctly, it does not show up in the Startup Disk preferences 
> dialog box.
> 
> The last time I checked, the only way I could see the bootable stick was via 
> the Option key-press at startup.  
> 
> I have not yet made a bootable High Sierra stick so cannot confirm this but 
> such was definitely the case in the previous OS.
> 
> Mark 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 1:29 AM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.
> 
> Hi!
> I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
> install.
> The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
> prefs and start disk.
> I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
> I am not sure if this matters or not.
> Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt 
> or something else may have gone south?
> How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
> Mine is 5 gb.
> Thanks in advance.
> /A
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RE: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

2018-01-15 Thread M. Taylor

Hello Simon and Everyone,

Interesting.

I'm glad to know that the USB sticks show up in High Sierra.

I think the last time I made a bootable stick, then tried to use it, was back 
on El Capitan.

I think I'll make a bootable stick, sometime this week.  It's a good idea to 
have one, right?  

Thank you all for chiming in on this one.  I love re-evaluating my perspective 
on these types of issues said reevaluation being inspired by all of your 
wonderful feedback.

Mark

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On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 9:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

Yes I to can confirm that the usb bootable installers do show up in start up 
disk.

 However there is an issue if the bootable USB has an older version of the mac 
os installer An older version wont show up in the start up disk 

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On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Tuesday, 16 January 2018 9:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

Hi Mark,

I have not experienced what you are stating.  In all previous version of the 
MacOS bootable installer on a USB stick that I have created, it was visible 
through the Startup Disk.  I just tested my High Sierra USB installer and it 
was visible in the Startup Disk pane as well.  I'm certainly not disputing that 
you've had that experience, but it is not the morn.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 15, 2018, at 13:31, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:

Anders,

As I recall, in all previous versions of Mac OS, even if the bootable stick is 
prepared correctly, it does not show up in the Startup Disk preferences dialog 
box.

The last time I checked, the only way I could see the bootable stick was via 
the Option key-press at startup.  

I have not yet made a bootable High Sierra stick so cannot confirm this but 
such was definitely the case in the previous OS.

Mark 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 1:29 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

Hi!
I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
install.
The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
prefs and start disk.
I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
I am not sure if this matters or not.
Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt or 
something else may have gone south?
How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
Mine is 5 gb.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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RE: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

2018-01-15 Thread Simon Fogarty

Earlier versions wont show up 

I've tried with Yosemite and elcap in high sierra and sierra and there was no 
go but hey there is stil the option key at start up / power on.

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On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Tuesday, 16 January 2018 11:51 AM
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Subject: Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

I don't know about that, Mark. I see both of my High Sierra and Sierra 
install sticks. Don't recall not seeing earlier versions of OS X either in the 
startup disk window.

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On 1/15/2018 12:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Anders,
> 
> As I recall, in all previous versions of Mac OS, even if the bootable stick 
> is prepared correctly, it does not show up in the Startup Disk preferences 
> dialog box.
> 
> The last time I checked, the only way I could see the bootable stick was via 
> the Option key-press at startup.
> 
> I have not yet made a bootable High Sierra stick so cannot confirm this but 
> such was definitely the case in the previous OS.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 1:29 AM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.
> 
> Hi!
> I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
> install.
> The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
> prefs and start disk.
> I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
> I am not sure if this matters or not.
> Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt 
> or something else may have gone south?
> How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
> Mine is 5 gb.
> Thanks in advance.
> /A
> 

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RE: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

2018-01-15 Thread Simon Fogarty

Yes I to can confirm that the usb bootable installers do show up in start up 
disk.

 However there is an issue if the bootable USB has an older version of the mac 
os installer 
An older version wont show up in the start up disk 

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On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Tuesday, 16 January 2018 9:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

Hi Mark,

I have not experienced what you are stating.  In all previous version of the 
MacOS bootable installer on a USB stick that I have created, it was visible 
through the Startup Disk.  I just tested my High Sierra USB installer and it 
was visible in the Startup Disk pane as well.  I'm certainly not disputing that 
you've had that experience, but it is not the morn.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 15, 2018, at 13:31, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:

Anders,

As I recall, in all previous versions of Mac OS, even if the bootable stick is 
prepared correctly, it does not show up in the Startup Disk preferences dialog 
box.

The last time I checked, the only way I could see the bootable stick was via 
the Option key-press at startup.  

I have not yet made a bootable High Sierra stick so cannot confirm this but 
such was definitely the case in the previous OS.

Mark 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 1:29 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

Hi!
I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
install.
The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
prefs and start disk.
I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
I am not sure if this matters or not.
Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt or 
something else may have gone south?
How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
Mine is 5 gb.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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RE: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

2018-01-15 Thread Simon Fogarty

That's not the way to create a bootable USB device,

 You need about 7gig for high sierra 
Terminal for the command to create the bootable USB,
 And the installer file (file name.app) from within the download package.
The usb needs to be mac os extended journaled 
And GUID 
But the terminal command will format the drive as part of the setup.

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On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Tuesday, 16 January 2018 6:51 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

Hi!
I actually did it from the terminal.
Now i have tried re downloading the installer and put it via the terminal onto 
the usb stick.
I will now try to boot it up and see if it works.
/A

> 15 jan. 2018 kl. 17:20 skrev Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Formatting it to MacOS X Extended - Journaled should be fine.  Not sure why 
> it's not working for you though.  Which method did you use to create the 
> bootable stick?  5 GB sounds about right, it's usually 5 point something GB 
> for the MacOS installers.  I suggest you try it one more time in case the 
> first time had unforeseen problems.  The other thing to try, is to start up 
> in the Recovery partition, then go to the Apple menu and Startup Disk.  It's 
> possible that the Mac is being uncooperative due to the APFS vs HFS 
> formatting.  This usually shouldn't be an issue as APFS sees HFS just fine, 
> it's the other way around that doesn't always work as you might be accustomed 
> to.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 15, 2018, at 02:29, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
> install.
> The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
> prefs and start disk.
> I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
> I am not sure if this matters or not.
> Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt 
> or something else may have gone south?
> How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
> Mine is 5 gb.
> Thanks in advance.
> /A
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Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

2018-01-15 Thread E.T.

   I don't know about that, Mark. I see both of my High Sierra and 
Sierra install sticks. Don't recall not seeing earlier versions of OS X 
either in the startup disk window.


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On 1/15/2018 12:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Anders,

As I recall, in all previous versions of Mac OS, even if the bootable stick is 
prepared correctly, it does not show up in the Startup Disk preferences dialog 
box.

The last time I checked, the only way I could see the bootable stick was via 
the Option key-press at startup.

I have not yet made a bootable High Sierra stick so cannot confirm this but 
such was definitely the case in the previous OS.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 1:29 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

Hi!
I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
install.
The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
prefs and start disk.
I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
I am not sure if this matters or not.
Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt or 
something else may have gone south?
How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
Mine is 5 gb.
Thanks in advance.
/A



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Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

2018-01-15 Thread Tim Kilburn

Hi Mark,

I have not experienced what you are stating.  In all previous version of the 
MacOS bootable installer on a USB stick that I have created, it was visible 
through the Startup Disk.  I just tested my High Sierra USB installer and it 
was visible in the Startup Disk pane as well.  I'm certainly not disputing that 
you've had that experience, but it is not the morn.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 15, 2018, at 13:31, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:

Anders,

As I recall, in all previous versions of Mac OS, even if the bootable stick is 
prepared correctly, it does not show up in the Startup Disk preferences dialog 
box.

The last time I checked, the only way I could see the bootable stick was via 
the Option key-press at startup.  

I have not yet made a bootable High Sierra stick so cannot confirm this but 
such was definitely the case in the previous OS.

Mark 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 1:29 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

Hi!
I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
install.
The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
prefs and start disk.
I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
I am not sure if this matters or not.
Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt or 
something else may have gone south?
How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
Mine is 5 gb.
Thanks in advance.
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RE: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

2018-01-15 Thread M. Taylor

Anders,

As I recall, in all previous versions of Mac OS, even if the bootable stick is 
prepared correctly, it does not show up in the Startup Disk preferences dialog 
box.

The last time I checked, the only way I could see the bootable stick was via 
the Option key-press at startup.  

I have not yet made a bootable High Sierra stick so cannot confirm this but 
such was definitely the case in the previous OS.

Mark 

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On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 1:29 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

Hi!
I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
install.
The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
prefs and start disk.
I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
I am not sure if this matters or not.
Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt or 
something else may have gone south?
How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
Mine is 5 gb.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

2018-01-15 Thread Tim Kilburn

Hi Anders,

You cannot simply copy the installer over to the USB stick when creating this 
via Terminal.  What you need to do is:

1.  Use a minimum 8 GB USB stick.
2.  Format the USB stick to MacOS Extended (Journaled) and make sure it is 
named "Untitled".
3.  Make sure that the High Sierra installer is in the Applications folder of 
your Mac.
4.  Enter the following into terminal:

sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ High\ 
Sierra.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled 
--applicationpath /Applications/Install\ macOS\ High\ Sierra.app --nointeraction

5.  Press return.
6.  Terminal will ask for your password.  Enter it and go have a drink.  The 
process should take about half an hour.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 15, 2018, at 10:51, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:

Hi!
I actually did it from the terminal.
Now i have tried re downloading the installer and put it via the terminal onto 
the usb stick.
I will now try to boot it up and see if it works.
/A

> 15 jan. 2018 kl. 17:20 skrev Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Formatting it to MacOS X Extended - Journaled should be fine.  Not sure why 
> it's not working for you though.  Which method did you use to create the 
> bootable stick?  5 GB sounds about right, it's usually 5 point something GB 
> for the MacOS installers.  I suggest you try it one more time in case the 
> first time had unforeseen problems.  The other thing to try, is to start up 
> in the Recovery partition, then go to the Apple menu and Startup Disk.  It's 
> possible that the Mac is being uncooperative due to the APFS vs HFS 
> formatting.  This usually shouldn't be an issue as APFS sees HFS just fine, 
> it's the other way around that doesn't always work as you might be accustomed 
> to.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 15, 2018, at 02:29, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
> install.
> The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
> prefs and start disk.
> I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
> I am not sure if this matters or not.
> Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt 
> or something else may have gone south?
> How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
> Mine is 5 gb.
> Thanks in advance.
> /A
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Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

2018-01-15 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi!
I actually did it from the terminal.
Now i have tried re downloading the installer and put it via the terminal onto 
the usb stick.
I will now try to boot it up and see if it works.
/A

> 15 jan. 2018 kl. 17:20 skrev Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Formatting it to MacOS X Extended - Journaled should be fine.  Not sure why 
> it's not working for you though.  Which method did you use to create the 
> bootable stick?  5 GB sounds about right, it's usually 5 point something GB 
> for the MacOS installers.  I suggest you try it one more time in case the 
> first time had unforeseen problems.  The other thing to try, is to start up 
> in the Recovery partition, then go to the Apple menu and Startup Disk.  It's 
> possible that the Mac is being uncooperative due to the APFS vs HFS 
> formatting.  This usually shouldn't be an issue as APFS sees HFS just fine, 
> it's the other way around that doesn't always work as you might be accustomed 
> to.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 15, 2018, at 02:29, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
> install.
> The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
> prefs and start disk.
> I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
> I am not sure if this matters or not.
> Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt 
> or something else may have gone south?
> How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
> Mine is 5 gb.
> Thanks in advance.
> /A
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Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

2018-01-15 Thread E.T.


Anders,
   macOD Extended Journaled and size is fine. Check the code if using 
Terminal. Rename the USB to Untitled and run the code below.


sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ High\ 
Sierra.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume 
/Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ macOS\ High\ 
Sierra.app --nointeraction & Done


   Or use an app called "Install Disk Creator" from 
. It does all the hard work 
for you.


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On 1/15/2018 1:29 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Mac os extended journal.


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Re: Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

2018-01-15 Thread Tim Kilburn

Hi,

Formatting it to MacOS X Extended - Journaled should be fine.  Not sure why 
it's not working for you though.  Which method did you use to create the 
bootable stick?  5 GB sounds about right, it's usually 5 point something GB for 
the MacOS installers.  I suggest you try it one more time in case the first 
time had unforeseen problems.  The other thing to try, is to start up in the 
Recovery partition, then go to the Apple menu and Startup Disk.  It's possible 
that the Mac is being uncooperative due to the APFS vs HFS formatting.  This 
usually shouldn't be an issue as APFS sees HFS just fine, it's the other way 
around that doesn't always work as you might be accustomed to.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 15, 2018, at 02:29, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:

Hi!
I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
install.
The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
prefs and start disk.
I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
I am not sure if this matters or not.
Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt or 
something else may have gone south?
How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
Mine is 5 gb.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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Bootable usb stick is not bootable.

2018-01-15 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi!
I have created a bootable usb stick with Hi sierra as i have to do a clean 
install.
The problem is that its not in the startdisk selection when i go to system 
prefs and start disk.
I think i have made a mistake by formatting it to Mac os extended journal.
I am not sure if this matters or not.
Is there a way of checking wheather the downloaded installer may be corrupt or 
something else may have gone south?
How big should the installer package be when its downloaded.
Mine is 5 gb.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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