Re: Braille Display Commands on Mac

[Kerryann Ifill]

Hi I have a brilliant 32 cell.

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> On 20 Mar 2021, at 12:28 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> The command assignments are specific to the type of braille display 
> connected, which is presumably why they won’t appear unless you have a 
> working display.  
>  
> I would suggest reviewing the table of commands (with the display connected, 
> of course) and deciding whether to make changes. As to opening applications, 
> you would typically use the braille display to simulate the relevant 
> keystrokes (e.g., using the dock). Likewise, simulating Command-Q closes an 
> application.
>  
> My personal preference is to use the Qwerty keyboard for most input and to 
> read the braille display as I wish. However, different users have different 
> preferences.
>  
> From: 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
> Date: Friday, 19 March 2021 at 13:59
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Braille Display Commands on Mac
> 
> Hi everyone. I am working with a student who is using a Brailliant 32. I have 
> used this display in the past, but it was a few years ago. None of the 
> commands for VoiceOver work for the display and I think they need to go into 
> the commands table to fix it. As I don't have a display anymore, where is 
> this option and are they able to add/modify commands for quitting/opening 
> applications?
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens,
> Certified assistive technology specialist
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> Canadian phone: 226-787-7354
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Re: Braille Display Commands on Mac

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

The command assignments are specific to the type of braille display connected, which is presumably why they won’t appear unless you have a working display.   I would suggest reviewing the table of commands (with the display connected, of course) and deciding whether to make changes. As to opening applications, you would typically use the braille display to simulate the relevant keystrokes (e.g., using the dock). Likewise, simulating Command-Q closes an application. My personal preference is to use the Qwerty keyboard for most input and to read the braille display as I wish. However, different users have different preferences. From: 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries Date: Friday, 19 March 2021 at 13:59To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries Subject: Braille Display Commands on MacHi everyone. I am working with a student who is using a Brailliant 32. I have used this display in the past, but it was a few years ago. None of the commands for VoiceOver work for the display and I think they need to go into the commands table to fix it. As I don't have a display anymore, where is this option and are they able to add/modify commands for quitting/opening applications?ThanksGod bless.Matthew Dierckens,Certified assistive technology specialistMacintosh, iOS, and windows TrainerCanadian phone: 226-787-7354   -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C78647B8-67C3-4DD4-9105-7304323E8FBC%40me.com.



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Re: Braille Display Commands on Mac

[John Panarese]

  Yes, I don’t think the, assign commands, button will be available unless you 
have an active Braille display connected.


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> On Mar 19, 2021, at 4:49 PM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Eileen,
> So great to hear from you, I hope you and your husband are well.
> I think the issue here is, because I don’t have a Braille display, the 
> commands button won’t show up. God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified assistive technology specialist
> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 3:29 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Matthew,
>>  
>> Check in the VoiceOver Utility (VO+F8). Select Braille in the categories 
>> table, then select the tab for Displays. Use the Tab key to move through the 
>> settings and you will find commands there. I’m not sure how to use or set 
>> commands for a display.
>>  
>> HTH.
>>  
>> Eileen
>>  
>> From: 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries <>
>> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 1:59 PM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <>
>> Subject: Braille Display Commands on Mac
>>  
>> Hi everyone. I am working with a student who is using a Brailliant 32. I 
>> have used this display in the past, but it was a few years ago. None of the 
>> commands for VoiceOver work for the display and I think they need to go into 
>> the commands table to fix it. As I don't have a display anymore, where is 
>> this option and are they able to add/modify commands for quitting/opening 
>> applications?
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>>> God bless.
>>> Matthew Dierckens,
>>> Certified assistive technology specialist
>>> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
>>> Canadian phone: 226-787-7354
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Braille Display Commands on Mac

['Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Eileen,
So great to hear from you, I hope you and your husband are well.
I think the issue here is, because I don’t have a Braille display, the commands 
button won’t show up. God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified assistive technology specialist
Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer


> On Mar 19, 2021, at 3:29 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Matthew,
>  
> Check in the VoiceOver Utility (VO+F8). Select Braille in the categories 
> table, then select the tab for Displays. Use the Tab key to move through the 
> settings and you will find commands there. I’m not sure how to use or set 
> commands for a display.
>  
> HTH.
>  
> Eileen
>  
> From: 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 1:59 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Braille Display Commands on Mac
>  
> Hi everyone. I am working with a student who is using a Brailliant 32. I have 
> used this display in the past, but it was a few years ago. None of the 
> commands for VoiceOver work for the display and I think they need to go into 
> the commands table to fix it. As I don't have a display anymore, where is 
> this option and are they able to add/modify commands for quitting/opening 
> applications?
> Thanks.
> 
> 
>> God bless.
>> Matthew Dierckens,
>> Certified assistive technology specialist
>> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
>> Canadian phone: 226-787-7354
>> 
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Re: Braille Display Commands on Mac

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Matthew,

Check in the VoiceOver Utility (VO+F8). Select Braille in the categories table, 
then select the tab for Displays. Use the Tab key to move through the settings 
and you will find commands there. I’m not sure how to use or set commands for a 
display.

HTH.

Eileen

From: 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 1:59 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Braille Display Commands on Mac

Hi everyone. I am working with a student who is using a Brailliant 32. I have 
used this display in the past, but it was a few years ago. None of the commands 
for VoiceOver work for the display and I think they need to go into the 
commands table to fix it. As I don't have a display anymore, where is this 
option and are they able to add/modify commands for quitting/opening 
applications? 
Thanks.




  God bless.
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  Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
  Canadian phone: 226-787-7354





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Braille Display Commands on Mac

['Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries]

Hi everyone. I am working with a student who is using a Brailliant 32. I have 
used this display in the past, but it was a few years ago. None of the commands 
for VoiceOver work for the display and I think they need to go into the 
commands table to fix it. As I don't have a display anymore, where is this 
option and are they able to add/modify commands for quitting/opening 
applications?
Thanks.


> God bless.
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> Canadian phone: 226-787-7354
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Re: Braille Display Commands

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Jonathan,
   No. I have wasted 2 days with this so after I run errands today, I 
will start over with a fresh pairing of the Focus to the iPhone. I had 
hoped to work in the iOS mail app by now.


   What I would suggest is to go into the Braille commands in VO 
settings on the iPhone and browse the list. One command that I think is 
worth adding right away is the one that opens the VO settings directly. 
I used space 1-3-6. The hard part is finding combinations that do not 
conflict. You can also "replace" commands already assigned that you will 
not use.


   There is one I think Freedom Scientific made an error with. They 
assigned the 'activate selected item' command to tap instead of double 
tap. Picky but I changed that anyway.


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On 11/30/2018 8:02 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

ET,

Did you write up a procedure for reproducing additions to Braille commanders 
that you recommend for frequent users. I’d love to learn ways to make 
processing e-mail more efficient especially on the IOS platform. Though I am 
still not getting an good concept of “QuickNav” and “single level quick nav” 
when it comes to working with a Perkins keyboard.
Thanks,

Jonathan


On Nov 29, 2018, at 1:19 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   With the Focus Blue 5th, I have assigned some braille commands on both iPhone and 
iPad. All work fine with the exception of the "Activate selected item" which I 
assigned space 3-6 as well as the nav mode buttons. Works on the iPad, it did work on the 
iPhone but now when I execute this command on folders, the folder tries to open but goes 
back to the first item on the home screen. I can use the command to open apps or do other 
things. Any ideas? I reset the commands and redid them, same problem. Strange.

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Re: Braille Display Commands

[Jonathan Cohn]

ET,

Did you write up a procedure for reproducing additions to Braille commanders 
that you recommend for frequent users. I’d love to learn ways to make 
processing e-mail more efficient especially on the IOS platform. Though I am 
still not getting an good concept of “QuickNav” and “single level quick nav” 
when it comes to working with a Perkins keyboard. 
Thanks,

Jonathan

> On Nov 29, 2018, at 1:19 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   With the Focus Blue 5th, I have assigned some braille commands on both 
> iPhone and iPad. All work fine with the exception of the "Activate selected 
> item" which I assigned space 3-6 as well as the nav mode buttons. Works on 
> the iPad, it did work on the iPhone but now when I execute this command on 
> folders, the folder tries to open but goes back to the first item on the home 
> screen. I can use the command to open apps or do other things. Any ideas? I 
> reset the commands and redid them, same problem. Strange.
> 
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Braille Display Commands

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   With the Focus Blue 5th, I have assigned some braille commands on 
both iPhone and iPad. All work fine with the exception of the "Activate 
selected item" which I assigned space 3-6 as well as the nav mode 
buttons. Works on the iPad, it did work on the iPhone but now when I 
execute this command on folders, the folder tries to open but goes back 
to the first item on the home screen. I can use the command to open apps 
or do other things. Any ideas? I reset the commands and redid them, same 
problem. Strange.


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Re: Braille display commands

[Maria Reyes]

Yes I made a command for Siri on my Brailliant BI 32 when I found out about 
this.

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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behalf of David Chittenden 
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 11:09:33 PM
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Subject: Braille display commands

Hi all,

I am writing this message using a Refreshabraille braille display, running the 
latest version of iOS on an iPhone X.

First, the braille display commands are not as limited as they first appear. Go 
to settings, general, accessibility, voiceover, braille, find the display, and 
activate the More Info button. In addition to forget this device, there is now 
a Braille Commands option. This option is excellent. It lists all possible 
braille display commands, organised into categories. Opening a category reveals 
the commands in it. Opening a command shows the command, if it exists, and the 
option to change or add a braille display button combination.

Writing and reading in contracted braille works well now. I am not experiencing 
any delays thus far.

That said, there is still a problem. When inserting text, speech keeps speaking 
the word after the text I just wrote rather than the word I just wrote.

Unfortunately, I have not yet been able to figure out how to go through the 
misspelled words selection to select a replacement word.

Over all, I am impressed with how the braille display is working, especially 
for writing in contracted braille. That said, Apple has figured out how to edit 
text in contracted braille. Again, I am quite impressed.

Kind regards,

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Braille display commands

[David Chittenden]

Hi all,

I am writing this message using a Refreshabraille braille display, running the 
latest version of iOS on an iPhone X.

First, the braille display commands are not as limited as they first appear. Go 
to settings, general, accessibility, voiceover, braille, find the display, and 
activate the More Info button. In addition to forget this device, there is now 
a Braille Commands option. This option is excellent. It lists all possible 
braille display commands, organised into categories. Opening a category reveals 
the commands in it. Opening a command shows the command, if it exists, and the 
option to change or add a braille display button combination.

Writing and reading in contracted braille works well now. I am not experiencing 
any delays thus far.

That said, there is still a problem. When inserting text, speech keeps speaking 
the word after the text I just wrote rather than the word I just wrote.

Unfortunately, I have not yet been able to figure out how to go through the 
misspelled words selection to select a replacement word.

Over all, I am impressed with how the braille display is working, especially 
for writing in contracted braille. That said, Apple has figured out how to edit 
text in contracted braille. Again, I am quite impressed. 

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +61 488 988 936
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Re: braille display commands for the mac

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,
this will depend on which display you are using as far as commands go.

To see a list, go to vo utility with vo f8.  go down to braille.  then I think 
it’s under the layout tab, and it’s called key commands or something like that. 
 It brings up a table of the commands for your particular display.

Additionally, if you go to the apple site, you can find generic commands for 
using braille on the mac there-just do a search for braille.

hth,
Caitlyn

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> Hello all,
> I am trying to use my braille display with the mac.  Where can I see a list 
> of commands or hear a podcast demonstrating them. I would like to start using 
> my braille display on my mac to control the mac.  Thanks for the help.
> Brian
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Re: braille display commands for the mac

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On 1/28/2016 7:06 AM, Brian Howerton wrote:

Hello all,
I am trying to use my braille display with the mac.  Where can I see a list of 
commands or hear a podcast demonstrating them. I would like to start using my 
braille display on my mac to control the mac.  Thanks for the help.
Brian



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Re: braille display commands for the mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Brian,

With your Braille display connected to your Mac, open the VoiceOver utility 
(VO-F8_ and go down to Braille. Select Braille Displays. You should find a 
table showing all the commands provided for your particular display. You’ll 
also see that you can assign your own commands.

Cheers,

Anne


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braille display commands for the mac

[Brian Howerton]

Hello all,
I am trying to use my braille display with the mac.  Where can I see a list of 
commands or hear a podcast demonstrating them. I would like to start using my 
braille display on my mac to control the mac.  Thanks for the help.
Brian

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Re: adding custom braille display commands

[Alex Hall]

Neither is possible directly. However, you could probably manage them with 
AppleScript; make the script to do what you want, then tie a command to that 
script.
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> on the Mac. But I don’t see a couple of possibilities that I was hoping to 
> add. One is a command to show the reader in Safari, and another was to go 
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adding custom braille display commands

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I was just looking at the custom commands I could add to my braille display on 
the Mac. But I don’t see a couple of possibilities that I was hoping to add. 
One is a command to show the reader in Safari, and another was to go back a 
page when on a web page. Any ideas?

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Re: braille display commands

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Mary Ann
I no longer Snow Leopard, so I hope what I am about to say helps. I found the 
commands list under assigning commands in the VoiceOver Utility. I was going to 
paste the list I found into this message, but it didn't work. I don't think the 
commands changed much. I couldn't get the table to come up unless I had the 
braille display connected. 

I have a braille copy of the VoiceOver manual for Sniow Leopard. If you are in 
the States so that I can send it to you easily and if you want it, please 
contact me privately off list and I will send it to you. I have Mountain Lion 
these days so I no longer need it. 



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Where can I find a list of the braille key board commands for a
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