Re: Filling out pdf forms.

[rmani...@gmail.com]

when you fill in  then  print-to-pdf, it will save  , give it a DIFFERENT 
name ,something such as iniitals and date, ,but it won't be editable 
anylonger

On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 11:01:37 AM UTC-5 anders wrote:

> Hi! 
> Was trying to fill out a pdf form last night but when I sent the form to 
> the one who needed it it wasn’t filled out. 
> I used preview to do that. 
> Can I do it in pages if its a pdf-form? 
> Or are there other apps that will work for this? 
> Thanks. 
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Re: Filling out pdf forms.

[Brad Snyder]

You might try doing a Save As using, CMD + Option + Shift + S.

- Brad -


On Dec 11, 2020, at 17:08, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
I see that there are textfields I can fill in but I  seem to miss how to save 
the form.
I thought command s would work but not here.
/A

> 11 dec. 2020 kl. 17:45 skrev Brad Snyder :
> 
> Depends on the PDF form.
> Some PDF forms are editable, some must be printed out and filled in using a 
> writing implement, and scanned back into the computer.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Dec 11, 2020, at 10:01, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Was trying to fill out a pdf form last night but when I sent the form to the 
> one who needed it it wasn’t filled out.
> I used preview to do that.
> Can I do it in pages if its a pdf-form?
> Or are there other apps that will work for this?
> Thanks.
> /A
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Re: Filling out pdf forms.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I see that there are textfields I can fill in but I  seem to miss how to save 
the form.
I thought command s would work but not here.
/A

> 11 dec. 2020 kl. 17:45 skrev Brad Snyder :
> 
> Depends on the PDF form.
> Some PDF forms are editable, some must be printed out and filled in using a 
> writing implement, and scanned back into the computer.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Dec 11, 2020, at 10:01, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Was trying to fill out a pdf form last night but when I sent the form to the 
> one who needed it it wasn’t filled out.
> I used preview to do that.
> Can I do it in pages if its a pdf-form?
> Or are there other apps that will work for this?
> Thanks.
> /A
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Re: Filling out pdf forms.

[Brad Snyder]

Depends on the PDF form.
Some PDF forms are editable, some must be printed out and filled in using a 
writing implement, and scanned back into the computer.

- Brad -

On Dec 11, 2020, at 10:01, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Was trying to fill out a pdf form last night but when I sent the form to the 
one who needed it it wasn’t filled out.
I used preview to do that.
Can I do it in pages if its a pdf-form?
Or are there other apps that will work for this?
Thanks.
/A

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Filling out pdf forms.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Was trying to fill out a pdf form last night but when I sent the form to the 
one who needed it it wasn’t filled out.
I used preview to do that.
Can I do it in pages if its a pdf-form?
Or are there other apps that will work for this?
Thanks.
/A

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Re: filling out pdf forms on mac

[erik burggraaf]

Hi brian,

I did a google search on this a couple of months ago and turned up a malarky 
blog post where some one had used the text to speach feature of adobe for mac 
to describe all the fields and then some tricky way to get to the first one and 
thus fill out a form.  It seemed ridiculous to me.  Maybe it will take a law 
sute to get adobe off it's can and producing accessible mac software.  For now, 
rest assured that your imagination is not playing tricks on you.  The process 
is very broken.

The recommended mac visionaries solution is pdf pen pro which has a price tag 
attached.  I've cheated and used my virtual machine for years because I have 
one and can't really justify the expense of pdf pen.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
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> On Aug 3, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Brian Moore  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.  So I remember reading late last year that the latest version of 
> acrobat reader dc for mac had proper support for tagged .pdf files.  So now I 
> wanted to test this.  made sure my mac was completely up to date 10.11.6  
> installed latest version of adobe reader dc
> Opened a pdf file which I know is tagged properly.  checked it with acrobat 
> reader on windows as well as looked at the actual tag structure with acrobat 
> pro.
> 
> however, adobe reader for mac told me it was an untagged document. Still I 
> told it to infer reading order and proceeded.
> 
> I can see no content in this file much less fill out the actual form.
> 
> Am I missing something here? I tried interacting with all kinds of bits.  I 
> see a tool bar, and a few other elements but not the actual document itself.
> 
> Has anyone actually gotten this to work?
> 
> if so, how did you actually get to the document area?
> 
> Thanks.
> Brian.
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[Brian Moore]

Hi all.  So I remember reading late last year that the latest version of 
acrobat reader dc for mac had proper support for tagged .pdf files.  So 
now I wanted to test this.  made sure my mac was completely up to date 
10.11.6  installed latest version of adobe reader dc
Opened a pdf file which I know is tagged properly.  checked it with 
acrobat reader on windows as well as looked at the actual tag structure 
with acrobat pro.


however, adobe reader for mac told me it was an untagged document. Still 
I told it to infer reading order and proceeded.


I can see no content in this file much less fill out the actual form.

Am I missing something here? I tried interacting with all kinds of 
bits.  I see a tool bar, and a few other elements but not the actual 
document itself.


Has anyone actually gotten this to work?

if so, how did you actually get to the document area?

Thanks.
Brian.

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Re: Filling out pdf forms

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Eric,

As tim rightly said: it's the forms that are at fault.  So I can just whistle 
in the wind for now. smile  I have to begin to control the urge I have to try 
things. smile again

All the best

Andrew
 On 24 Dec 2014, at 01:59, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 well,
 how long ago did you pay for that software? if you can't use it because of 
 accessibility issues, you might be able to get your money back (although, if 
 you got it through the app store, it might take some effort). Otherwise, try 
 contacting the software vendor. they might be able to help.
 
 -eric
 
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
 
 Hi Tim,
 
 Having fixed your form with somebody else's help, could you now do it 
 yourself?  Or does it always require sighted help?  I'm afraid I've bought 
 pdf pro but have not been able to use it.  So as you said, it's just sitting 
 there, an expensive thing.  
 
 Best wishes for Christmas
 
 Simon
 On 23 Dec 2014, at 01:52, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Andrew,
 
 Yes, I know exactly what you mean.  I sat with one of our Adobe Master 
 teachers fixing up a form and it took a bit of work to actually make it 
 properly readable for me.  It took about 15 minutes to get all the fields 
 fixed up, but, it sure was worth it to me.  I did have the advantage of 
 having someone close by to fix things up where you probably did not.  PDF 
 Pen Pro is rather expensive to just have it sit there in your apps folder.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Dec 21, 2014, at 14:35, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Dear Tim,
 
 Thanks again for your valuable input.  I rather feared it was the case.  
 I'm not sure I was wise to have spent the money on pdf pro as very few 
 people will have made sure they had constructed a proper pdf form.
 
 Andrew
 On 21 Dec 2014, at 16:38, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 If a pdf is formatted properly, then you interact with the pdf content 
 area once and you’ll be set in the level where you can quickly navigate 
 the various pages if it is a multi-page document.  Interact one more time 
 on the specific page and, if a field is an Edit field, VO will announce 
 it as such and you’ll be able to the data.  The difficulty arises with 
 improperly created editable forms.  The Edit fields need to be properly 
 tagged and inserted as an Edit Field.  If the creator of the form just 
 left blank space and expected the user to enter info there, then it will 
 not be usable from within VO.  So, if no Edit filed is announced, you’re 
 kind of out of luck.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Dec 20, 2014, at 12:31, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 I've purchased pdf pro but i have no idea how to use it with Voiceover.  
 If anyone could give me some clues, I'd be grateful.  I had to fill in a 
 pdf form a few weeks ago but all I could find on the page was groups and 
 in each a page but was not able to navigate any boxes in which to input 
 data.
 
 Andrew
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 22:05, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 PDF Pen Pro
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 21:58, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 What pdf form filler is accessible with VoiceOver on the mac.
 
 I have some pdf forms I need to fill out.
 
 Thanks
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Re: Filling out pdf forms

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there
I haven't followed this thread too closely because of the holidays etc. 
However, did you get PDF Pen pro or some other program? Nic and I had some 
correspondence about this when I can use it just fine, and he couldn't. He and 
I both got things resolved, so I was wondering if we could figure out what the 
problem is. I filled out the form 1040 last year with this program, and 
recently filled out a recertification for para transit with it also. Of course, 
I was using voice over all the time.The only trouble I had was with the check 
boxes, and they are still working on that.
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:48 AM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Tim,
 
 Having fixed your form with somebody else's help, could you now do it 
 yourself?  Or does it always require sighted help?  I'm afraid I've bought 
 pdf pro but have not been able to use it.  So as you said, it's just sitting 
 there, an expensive thing.  
 
 Best wishes for Christmas
 
 Simon
 On 23 Dec 2014, at 01:52, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Andrew,
 
 Yes, I know exactly what you mean.  I sat with one of our Adobe Master 
 teachers fixing up a form and it took a bit of work to actually make it 
 properly readable for me.  It took about 15 minutes to get all the fields 
 fixed up, but, it sure was worth it to me.  I did have the advantage of 
 having someone close by to fix things up where you probably did not.  PDF 
 Pen Pro is rather expensive to just have it sit there in your apps folder.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Dec 21, 2014, at 14:35, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Dear Tim,
 
 Thanks again for your valuable input.  I rather feared it was the case.  
 I'm not sure I was wise to have spent the money on pdf pro as very few 
 people will have made sure they had constructed a proper pdf form.
 
 Andrew
 On 21 Dec 2014, at 16:38, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 If a pdf is formatted properly, then you interact with the pdf content 
 area once and you’ll be set in the level where you can quickly navigate 
 the various pages if it is a multi-page document.  Interact one more time 
 on the specific page and, if a field is an Edit field, VO will announce it 
 as such and you’ll be able to the data.  The difficulty arises with 
 improperly created editable forms.  The Edit fields need to be properly 
 tagged and inserted as an Edit Field.  If the creator of the form just 
 left blank space and expected the user to enter info there, then it will 
 not be usable from within VO.  So, if no Edit filed is announced, you’re 
 kind of out of luck.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Dec 20, 2014, at 12:31, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 I've purchased pdf pro but i have no idea how to use it with Voiceover.  
 If anyone could give me some clues, I'd be grateful.  I had to fill in a 
 pdf form a few weeks ago but all I could find on the page was groups and 
 in each a page but was not able to navigate any boxes in which to input 
 data.
 
 Andrew
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 22:05, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 PDF Pen Pro
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 21:58, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 What pdf form filler is accessible with VoiceOver on the mac.
 
 I have some pdf forms I need to fill out.
 
 Thanks
 Chris
 
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Re: Filling out pdf forms

[Eric Oyen]

well,
how long ago did you pay for that software? if you can't use it because of 
accessibility issues, you might be able to get your money back (although, if 
you got it through the app store, it might take some effort). Otherwise, try 
contacting the software vendor. they might be able to help.

-eric

On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:

 Hi Tim,
 
 Having fixed your form with somebody else's help, could you now do it 
 yourself?  Or does it always require sighted help?  I'm afraid I've bought 
 pdf pro but have not been able to use it.  So as you said, it's just sitting 
 there, an expensive thing.  
 
 Best wishes for Christmas
 
 Simon
 On 23 Dec 2014, at 01:52, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Andrew,
 
 Yes, I know exactly what you mean.  I sat with one of our Adobe Master 
 teachers fixing up a form and it took a bit of work to actually make it 
 properly readable for me.  It took about 15 minutes to get all the fields 
 fixed up, but, it sure was worth it to me.  I did have the advantage of 
 having someone close by to fix things up where you probably did not.  PDF 
 Pen Pro is rather expensive to just have it sit there in your apps folder.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Dec 21, 2014, at 14:35, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Dear Tim,
 
 Thanks again for your valuable input.  I rather feared it was the case.  
 I'm not sure I was wise to have spent the money on pdf pro as very few 
 people will have made sure they had constructed a proper pdf form.
 
 Andrew
 On 21 Dec 2014, at 16:38, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 If a pdf is formatted properly, then you interact with the pdf content 
 area once and you’ll be set in the level where you can quickly navigate 
 the various pages if it is a multi-page document.  Interact one more time 
 on the specific page and, if a field is an Edit field, VO will announce it 
 as such and you’ll be able to the data.  The difficulty arises with 
 improperly created editable forms.  The Edit fields need to be properly 
 tagged and inserted as an Edit Field.  If the creator of the form just 
 left blank space and expected the user to enter info there, then it will 
 not be usable from within VO.  So, if no Edit filed is announced, you’re 
 kind of out of luck.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Dec 20, 2014, at 12:31, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 I've purchased pdf pro but i have no idea how to use it with Voiceover.  
 If anyone could give me some clues, I'd be grateful.  I had to fill in a 
 pdf form a few weeks ago but all I could find on the page was groups and 
 in each a page but was not able to navigate any boxes in which to input 
 data.
 
 Andrew
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 22:05, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 PDF Pen Pro
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 21:58, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 What pdf form filler is accessible with VoiceOver on the mac.
 
 I have some pdf forms I need to fill out.
 
 Thanks
 Chris
 
 -- 
 Mystic Access
 Where the magic is in learning.
 733 Delaware Rd 341
 Buffalo, NY 14223
 Phone: (716) 803-8528
 web: www.mysticaccess.com
 
 Accessible Gadgets mailing list:   
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Re: Filling out pdf forms

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Yes, after it was fixed, I am totally able to fill out the form on my own.  The 
issue Eric, is not with respect to the accessibility of the app, but with the 
accessibility of the pdf forms, therefore, I’m not sure that an app return is 
possible.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Dec 23, 2014, at 18:59, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 well,
 how long ago did you pay for that software? if you can't use it because of 
 accessibility issues, you might be able to get your money back (although, if 
 you got it through the app store, it might take some effort). Otherwise, try 
 contacting the software vendor. they might be able to help.
 
 -eric
 
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
 
 Hi Tim,
 
 Having fixed your form with somebody else's help, could you now do it 
 yourself?  Or does it always require sighted help?  I'm afraid I've bought 
 pdf pro but have not been able to use it.  So as you said, it's just sitting 
 there, an expensive thing.  
 
 Best wishes for Christmas
 
 Simon
 On 23 Dec 2014, at 01:52, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Andrew,
 
 Yes, I know exactly what you mean.  I sat with one of our Adobe Master 
 teachers fixing up a form and it took a bit of work to actually make it 
 properly readable for me.  It took about 15 minutes to get all the fields 
 fixed up, but, it sure was worth it to me.  I did have the advantage of 
 having someone close by to fix things up where you probably did not.  PDF 
 Pen Pro is rather expensive to just have it sit there in your apps folder.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Dec 21, 2014, at 14:35, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Dear Tim,
 
 Thanks again for your valuable input.  I rather feared it was the case.  
 I'm not sure I was wise to have spent the money on pdf pro as very few 
 people will have made sure they had constructed a proper pdf form.
 
 Andrew
 On 21 Dec 2014, at 16:38, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 If a pdf is formatted properly, then you interact with the pdf content 
 area once and you’ll be set in the level where you can quickly navigate 
 the various pages if it is a multi-page document.  Interact one more time 
 on the specific page and, if a field is an Edit field, VO will announce 
 it as such and you’ll be able to the data.  The difficulty arises with 
 improperly created editable forms.  The Edit fields need to be properly 
 tagged and inserted as an Edit Field.  If the creator of the form just 
 left blank space and expected the user to enter info there, then it will 
 not be usable from within VO.  So, if no Edit filed is announced, you’re 
 kind of out of luck.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Dec 20, 2014, at 12:31, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 I've purchased pdf pro but i have no idea how to use it with Voiceover.  
 If anyone could give me some clues, I'd be grateful.  I had to fill in a 
 pdf form a few weeks ago but all I could find on the page was groups and 
 in each a page but was not able to navigate any boxes in which to input 
 data.
 
 Andrew
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 22:05, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 PDF Pen Pro
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 21:58, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 What pdf form filler is accessible with VoiceOver on the mac.
 
 I have some pdf forms I need to fill out.
 
 Thanks
 Chris
 
 -- 
 Mystic Access
 Where the magic is in learning.
 733 Delaware Rd 341
 Buffalo, NY 14223
 Phone: (716) 803-8528
 web: www.mysticaccess.com
 
 Accessible Gadgets mailing list:   
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 Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com
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Re: Filling out pdf forms

[Tim Kilburn]

Andrew,

Yes, I know exactly what you mean.  I sat with one of our Adobe Master teachers 
fixing up a form and it took a bit of work to actually make it properly 
readable for me.  It took about 15 minutes to get all the fields fixed up, but, 
it sure was worth it to me.  I did have the advantage of having someone close 
by to fix things up where you probably did not.  PDF Pen Pro is rather 
expensive to just have it sit there in your apps folder.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Dec 21, 2014, at 14:35, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Dear Tim,
 
 Thanks again for your valuable input.  I rather feared it was the case.  I'm 
 not sure I was wise to have spent the money on pdf pro as very few people 
 will have made sure they had constructed a proper pdf form.
 
 Andrew
 On 21 Dec 2014, at 16:38, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 If a pdf is formatted properly, then you interact with the pdf content area 
 once and you’ll be set in the level where you can quickly navigate the 
 various pages if it is a multi-page document.  Interact one more time on the 
 specific page and, if a field is an Edit field, VO will announce it as such 
 and you’ll be able to the data.  The difficulty arises with improperly 
 created editable forms.  The Edit fields need to be properly tagged and 
 inserted as an Edit Field.  If the creator of the form just left blank space 
 and expected the user to enter info there, then it will not be usable from 
 within VO.  So, if no Edit filed is announced, you’re kind of out of luck.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Dec 20, 2014, at 12:31, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 I've purchased pdf pro but i have no idea how to use it with Voiceover.  If 
 anyone could give me some clues, I'd be grateful.  I had to fill in a pdf 
 form a few weeks ago but all I could find on the page was groups and in 
 each a page but was not able to navigate any boxes in which to input data.
 
 Andrew
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 22:05, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 PDF Pen Pro
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 21:58, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 What pdf form filler is accessible with VoiceOver on the mac.
 
 I have some pdf forms I need to fill out.
 
 Thanks
 Chris
 
 -- 
 Mystic Access
 Where the magic is in learning.
 733 Delaware Rd 341
 Buffalo, NY 14223
 Phone: (716) 803-8528
 web: www.mysticaccess.com
 
 Accessible Gadgets mailing list:   
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 Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com
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Re: Filling out pdf forms

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Tim,

Having fixed your form with somebody else's help, could you now do it yourself? 
 Or does it always require sighted help?  I'm afraid I've bought pdf pro but 
have not been able to use it.  So as you said, it's just sitting there, an 
expensive thing.  

Best wishes for Christmas

Simon
 On 23 Dec 2014, at 01:52, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Andrew,
 
 Yes, I know exactly what you mean.  I sat with one of our Adobe Master 
 teachers fixing up a form and it took a bit of work to actually make it 
 properly readable for me.  It took about 15 minutes to get all the fields 
 fixed up, but, it sure was worth it to me.  I did have the advantage of 
 having someone close by to fix things up where you probably did not.  PDF Pen 
 Pro is rather expensive to just have it sit there in your apps folder.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Dec 21, 2014, at 14:35, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Dear Tim,
 
 Thanks again for your valuable input.  I rather feared it was the case.  I'm 
 not sure I was wise to have spent the money on pdf pro as very few people 
 will have made sure they had constructed a proper pdf form.
 
 Andrew
 On 21 Dec 2014, at 16:38, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 If a pdf is formatted properly, then you interact with the pdf content area 
 once and you’ll be set in the level where you can quickly navigate the 
 various pages if it is a multi-page document.  Interact one more time on 
 the specific page and, if a field is an Edit field, VO will announce it as 
 such and you’ll be able to the data.  The difficulty arises with improperly 
 created editable forms.  The Edit fields need to be properly tagged and 
 inserted as an Edit Field.  If the creator of the form just left blank 
 space and expected the user to enter info there, then it will not be usable 
 from within VO.  So, if no Edit filed is announced, you’re kind of out of 
 luck.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Dec 20, 2014, at 12:31, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 I've purchased pdf pro but i have no idea how to use it with Voiceover.  
 If anyone could give me some clues, I'd be grateful.  I had to fill in a 
 pdf form a few weeks ago but all I could find on the page was groups and 
 in each a page but was not able to navigate any boxes in which to input 
 data.
 
 Andrew
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 22:05, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 PDF Pen Pro
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 21:58, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 What pdf form filler is accessible with VoiceOver on the mac.
 
 I have some pdf forms I need to fill out.
 
 Thanks
 Chris
 
 -- 
 Mystic Access
 Where the magic is in learning.
 733 Delaware Rd 341
 Buffalo, NY 14223
 Phone: (716) 803-8528
 web: www.mysticaccess.com
 
 Accessible Gadgets mailing list:   
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Re: Filling out pdf forms

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

If a pdf is formatted properly, then you interact with the pdf content area 
once and you’ll be set in the level where you can quickly navigate the various 
pages if it is a multi-page document.  Interact one more time on the specific 
page and, if a field is an Edit field, VO will announce it as such and you’ll 
be able to the data.  The difficulty arises with improperly created editable 
forms.  The Edit fields need to be properly tagged and inserted as an Edit 
Field.  If the creator of the form just left blank space and expected the user 
to enter info there, then it will not be usable from within VO.  So, if no Edit 
filed is announced, you’re kind of out of luck.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Dec 20, 2014, at 12:31, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 I've purchased pdf pro but i have no idea how to use it with Voiceover.  If 
 anyone could give me some clues, I'd be grateful.  I had to fill in a pdf 
 form a few weeks ago but all I could find on the page was groups and in each 
 a page but was not able to navigate any boxes in which to input data.
 
 Andrew
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 22:05, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 PDF Pen Pro
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 21:58, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 What pdf form filler is accessible with VoiceOver on the mac.
 
 I have some pdf forms I need to fill out.
 
 Thanks
 Chris
 
 -- 
 Mystic Access
 Where the magic is in learning.
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 Buffalo, NY 14223
 Phone: (716) 803-8528
 web: www.mysticaccess.com
 
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Re: Filling out pdf forms

[Andrew Lamanche]

Dear Tim,

Thanks again for your valuable input.  I rather feared it was the case.  I'm 
not sure I was wise to have spent the money on pdf pro as very few people will 
have made sure they had constructed a proper pdf form.

Andrew
 On 21 Dec 2014, at 16:38, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 If a pdf is formatted properly, then you interact with the pdf content area 
 once and you’ll be set in the level where you can quickly navigate the 
 various pages if it is a multi-page document.  Interact one more time on the 
 specific page and, if a field is an Edit field, VO will announce it as such 
 and you’ll be able to the data.  The difficulty arises with improperly 
 created editable forms.  The Edit fields need to be properly tagged and 
 inserted as an Edit Field.  If the creator of the form just left blank space 
 and expected the user to enter info there, then it will not be usable from 
 within VO.  So, if no Edit filed is announced, you’re kind of out of luck.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Dec 20, 2014, at 12:31, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 I've purchased pdf pro but i have no idea how to use it with Voiceover.  If 
 anyone could give me some clues, I'd be grateful.  I had to fill in a pdf 
 form a few weeks ago but all I could find on the page was groups and in each 
 a page but was not able to navigate any boxes in which to input data.
 
 Andrew
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 22:05, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 PDF Pen Pro
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 21:58, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 What pdf form filler is accessible with VoiceOver on the mac.
 
 I have some pdf forms I need to fill out.
 
 Thanks
 Chris
 
 -- 
 Mystic Access
 Where the magic is in learning.
 733 Delaware Rd 341
 Buffalo, NY 14223
 Phone: (716) 803-8528
 web: www.mysticaccess.com
 
 Accessible Gadgets mailing list:   
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Re: Filling out pdf forms

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1. You can download a trial version of PDFPen Pro for free.
2. The standard version of PDFPen can likely be used to fill PDF forms with 
VoiceOver, but I have not tried it personally. The pro version is required to 
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Re: Filling out pdf forms

[Alex Hall]

I'll give the trial a shot, but even the non-pro app is $60. That's a whole lot 
for the occasional form; too bad there isn't anything else out there. Thanks 
for the reminder about the trial version.
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 VoiceOver, but I have not tried it personally. The pro version is required to 
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Re: Filling out pdf forms

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I've purchased pdf pro but i have no idea how to use it with Voiceover.  If 
anyone could give me some clues, I'd be grateful.  I had to fill in a pdf form 
a few weeks ago but all I could find on the page was groups and in each a page 
but was not able to navigate any boxes in which to input data.

Andrew
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 Hi,
 What pdf form filler is accessible with VoiceOver on the mac.
 
 I have some pdf forms I need to fill out.
 
 Thanks
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Filling out pdf forms

[Chris G]

Hi,
What pdf form filler is accessible with VoiceOver on the mac.

I have some pdf forms I need to fill out.

Thanks
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Re: Filling out pdf forms

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PDF Pen Pro
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 21:58, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote:
 
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 What pdf form filler is accessible with VoiceOver on the mac.
 
 I have some pdf forms I need to fill out.
 
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Re: Filling out pdf forms

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Is that the only option? I'd rather have a free, or at least far cheaper, app 
if at all possible.
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 PDF Pen Pro
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 21:58, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote:
 
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 What pdf form filler is accessible with VoiceOver on the mac.
 
 I have some pdf forms I need to fill out.
 
 Thanks
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Re: Filling out pdf forms

[Christopher Hallsworth]

It's the only one I know in this area.

On 20/12/2014 02:50, Alex Hall wrote:

Is that the only option? I'd rather have a free, or at least far cheaper, app 
if at all possible.

On Dec 19, 2014, at 5:05 PM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:

PDF Pen Pro

On 19 Dec 2014, at 21:58, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote:

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What pdf form filler is accessible with VoiceOver on the mac.

I have some pdf forms I need to fill out.

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Chris

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Filling Out PDF forms

[Joe Quinn]

Is there an accessible way of filling out pdf forms on the Mac?

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Re: Filling Out PDF forms

[Eugenia Firth]

Document hi there
PDF Pen, and I have the pro version, allow you to fill out forms on the Mac. It 
is not perfect because you can't yet do the checkboxes. However, I did a tax 
return on it last year.
Gigi

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Filling out PDF forms on the Mac?

[Dan Eickmeier]

Hi, is it possible to fill out a pdf form on the Mac with Preview?   
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Re: Filling out PDF forms on the Mac?

[Krister Ekstrom]

And if preview can't do it, is there an app that can?
/Krister


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 Thanks.


 

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