IOS 10 Beta
Hi List, As we're not able to ask questions about the betas on list, Is someone that is running the IOS 10 beta able to email me off list at: si...@fogarty.net.nz<mailto:si...@fogarty.net.nz>, or si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> so I can check something with them that I'm experiencing? Cheers, Simon f -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: IOS 10 beta
>>>> On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:59 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com >>>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >>>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Scott, even though it's a public beta, the NDA is still in effect. >>>>> Cara and Mark both say this. Mark or Cara, if you want to take it from >>>>> here, go ahead. >>>>> >>>>> Shawn >>>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >>>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net >>>>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net> >>>>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ray, public beta buddy, has nothing to do with non disclosure. >>>>>> >>>>>> Public being the key word here. >>>>>> >>>>>> Discuss away, it’s assumed you will. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net >>>>>>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net> >>>>>>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Simon, my good sir, please allow me to gently remind you that we are >>>>>>> strictly forbidden from discussing what we are finding out in the >>>>>>> beta testing of IOS10. This pertains both to developer beta as well >>>>>>> as the public beta. Bear in mind that the public beta is public >>>>>>> strictly in the sence that the public has access to it without >>>>>>> paying a developer fee: but, open discussion of findings is >>>>>>> strictly forbidden. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the >>>>>>> blind built-in >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>>>>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV >>>>>>> user! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> >>>>>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi List folks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ok so today I thought I’d be crazier than usual and I updated to >>>>>>>> the IOS 10 beta release. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does anyone know of any yet written documentation on the new >>>>>>>> features in IOS 10, I’ve found a few but others are hiding from me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The first one that really got me was iMessage being turned off >>>>>>>> after updating. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But it definitely seems faster especially when setting up >>>>>>>> fingerprints in the touch sensor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers for any information. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on >>>>>>>> the list itself. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner >>>>>>>> is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>&g
RE: IOS 10 beta
Hey Scot, I started this question / thread, So I’ll call it as a mistake and apologies to mark & Cara as well as the list. But just to note that if everyone on the list had installed the 10 public beta on to their iPhones or iPads, and people had questions, the NDA of a public beta would mean no on e can ask a question of other users of the same beta system. Now I will end this thread. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, 11 July 2016 3:34 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 10 beta Sorry, I’ll believe the lawyers from Morrison and Foerster before Mark and Kara.:) Public means public meaning no presumption of privacy. And I’ve read and had evaluated both agreements, the Developer version is far more restrictive and I was specifically advised against signing it so never participated in that program. I’m advised both on my own dime and through the legal department at my employer that the public beta is a different animal. But if the moderators wish to be their restrictive selves and stifle legal discussions that will benefit our community it’s their list. However, I have no such prohibition on my lists so anyone interested in an open discussion about beta software may migrate there with out fear of retribution for their comments. (public betas of software only please, the developer closed stuff needs to stay in approved forums and channels. On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:59 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com<mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote: Scott, even though it's a public beta, the NDA is still in effect. Cara and Mark both say this. Mark or Cara, if you want to take it from here, go ahead. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com<mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net<mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: Ray, public beta buddy, has nothing to do with non disclosure. Public being the key word here. Discuss away, it’s assumed you will. On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net<mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote: Simon, my good sir, please allow me to gently remind you that we are strictly forbidden from discussing what we are finding out in the beta testing of IOS10. This pertains both to developer beta as well as the public beta. Bear in mind that the public beta is public strictly in the sence that the public has access to it without paying a developer fee: but, open discussion of findings is strictly forbidden. Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Hi List folks, Ok so today I thought I’d be crazier than usual and I updated to the IOS 10 beta release. Does anyone know of any yet written documentation on the new features in IOS 10, I’ve found a few but others are hiding from me. The first one that really got me was iMessage being turned off after updating. But it definitely seems faster especially when setting up fingerprints in the touch sensor. Cheers for any information. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and y
Re: IOS 10 beta
;> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> >>>> >>>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net >>>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net> >>>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ray, public beta buddy, has nothing to do with non disclosure. >>>>> >>>>> Public being the key word here. >>>>> >>>>> Discuss away, it’s assumed you will. >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net >>>>>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net> >>>>>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Simon, my good sir, please allow me to gently remind you that we are >>>>>> strictly forbidden from discussing what we are finding out in the >>>>>> beta testing of IOS10. This pertains both to developer beta as well >>>>>> as the public beta. Bear in mind that the public beta is public >>>>>> strictly in the sence that the public has access to it without >>>>>> paying a developer fee: but, open discussion of findings is >>>>>> strictly forbidden. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the >>>>>> blind built-in >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>>>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV >>>>>> user! >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com >>>>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> >>>>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi List folks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok so today I thought I’d be crazier than usual and I updated to >>>>>>> the IOS 10 beta release. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does anyone know of any yet written documentation on the new >>>>>>> features in IOS 10, I’ve found a few but others are hiding from me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The first one that really got me was iMessage being turned off >>>>>>> after updating. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But it definitely seems faster especially when setting up >>>>>>> fingerprints in the touch sensor. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers for any information. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on >>>>>>> the list itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner >>>>>>> is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>>>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>>>>>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: IOS 10 beta
www.applevis.com has great forums discussing the public betas and VoiceOver. On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 10:09 AM Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: > I disagree, being that our needs are so under represented sometimes do the > small size of our community I think it’s important to discuss openly, > especially as concerned directly to Voice Over. The call routing issue > being at the top of the list for example since it directly impacts us all > as iPhone users, unique to our needs and actively being addressed in the > Beta. Public 4 for example of the current train breaking call routing > after it was fixed in 3 and seeming better in the recent release of 5. > ETc. Others have safari rendering concerns, performance, and so forth. > Many on this list also participate. I think we have a unique group here > with a lot of built in skills that benefit from open discussion again of > public things. I’m on the same page with you on the developer releases and > they should remain under wraps for many of the reasons you state as well as > for Apple’s protection of their intellectual property. Once it’s n the > wild and publicly available though I think we have more to gain than lose > by it’s discussion. No matter my thoughts though, It’s Mark and Kara’s > list so I will of course honor their wishes even though I strongly disagree > with them. > > You also have raised good points, I don’t think they apply in this case > but they were as always well stated. Just my $.02 > > > > On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:30 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: > > Scott, > Not to play devil's advocate (why the devil..) but one very good reason > for this ruling is to reduce anxiety and endless questions about new > releases Discussing bugs in beta software on a mailing list like this one > is counter productive especially for those of us who are not participating > in a beta program. The ruling would also preclude some from stating > disclaimers that he/she will not openly discuss issues in beta software. > > If there is a mailing list for beta testers, that is where to take it. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > Are We Alone in the Universe? > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 7/10/2016 8:34 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Sorry, I’ll believe the lawyers from Morrison and Foerster before Mark > and Kara.:) Public means public meaning no presumption of privacy. And > I’ve read and had evaluated both agreements, the Developer version is > far more restrictive and I was specifically advised against signing it > so never participated in that program. I’m advised both on my own dime > and through the legal department at my employer that the public beta is > a different animal. But if the moderators wish to be their restrictive > selves and stifle legal discussions that will benefit our community it’s > their list. > However, I have no such prohibition on my lists so anyone interested in > an open discussion about beta software may migrate there with out fear > of retribution for their comments. (public betas of software only > please, the developer closed stuff needs to stay in approved forums and > channels. > > On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:59 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com > <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com <bbssh...@icloud.com>>> wrote: > > Scott, even though it's a public beta, the NDA is still in effect. > Cara and Mark both say this. Mark or Cara, if you want to take it from > here, go ahead. > > Shawn > Sent From My White MacBook > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com > <bbssh...@icloud.com>> > > On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net > <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net <sc...@qualityip.net>>> wrote: > > Ray, public beta buddy, has nothing to do with non disclosure. > > Public being the key word here. > > Discuss away, it’s assumed you will. > > On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net > <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net <rforet7...@comcast.net>>> wrote: > > Simon, my good sir, please allow me to gently remind you that we are > strictly forbidden from discussing what we are finding out in the > beta testing of IOS10. This pertains both to developer beta as well > as the public beta. Bear in mind that the public beta is public > strictly in the sence that the public has access to it without > paying a developer fee: but, open discussion of findings is > strictly forbidden. > > > Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the > blind built-in > > Sincerely, The Con
Re: IOS 10 beta
l >>>>> as the public beta. Bear in mind that the public beta is public >>>>> strictly in the sence that the public has access to it without >>>>> paying a developer fee: but, open discussion of findings is >>>>> strictly forbidden. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the >>>>> blind built-in >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV >>>>> user! >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com >>>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> >>>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi List folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok so today I thought I’d be crazier than usual and I updated to >>>>>> the IOS 10 beta release. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone know of any yet written documentation on the new >>>>>> features in IOS 10, I’ve found a few but others are hiding from me. >>>>>> >>>>>> The first one that really got me was iMessage being turned off >>>>>> after updating. >>>>>> >>>>>> But it definitely seems faster especially when setting up >>>>>> fingerprints in the touch sensor. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers for any information. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on >>>>>> the list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner >>>>>> is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>>>>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>>. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email >>>>>> to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the >>>>> list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is >>>>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>> <mailto:caraqu...@ca
Re: IOS 10 beta
Scott, Not to play devil's advocate (why the devil..) but one very good reason for this ruling is to reduce anxiety and endless questions about new releases Discussing bugs in beta software on a mailing list like this one is counter productive especially for those of us who are not participating in a beta program. The ruling would also preclude some from stating disclaimers that he/she will not openly discuss issues in beta software. If there is a mailing list for beta testers, that is where to take it. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 7/10/2016 8:34 AM, Scott Granados wrote: Sorry, I’ll believe the lawyers from Morrison and Foerster before Mark and Kara.:) Public means public meaning no presumption of privacy. And I’ve read and had evaluated both agreements, the Developer version is far more restrictive and I was specifically advised against signing it so never participated in that program. I’m advised both on my own dime and through the legal department at my employer that the public beta is a different animal. But if the moderators wish to be their restrictive selves and stifle legal discussions that will benefit our community it’s their list. However, I have no such prohibition on my lists so anyone interested in an open discussion about beta software may migrate there with out fear of retribution for their comments. (public betas of software only please, the developer closed stuff needs to stay in approved forums and channels. On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:59 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote: Scott, even though it's a public beta, the NDA is still in effect. Cara and Mark both say this. Mark or Cara, if you want to take it from here, go ahead. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: Ray, public beta buddy, has nothing to do with non disclosure. Public being the key word here. Discuss away, it’s assumed you will. On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote: Simon, my good sir, please allow me to gently remind you that we are strictly forbidden from discussing what we are finding out in the beta testing of IOS10. This pertains both to developer beta as well as the public beta. Bear in mind that the public beta is public strictly in the sence that the public has access to it without paying a developer fee: but, open discussion of findings is strictly forbidden. Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Hi List folks, Ok so today I thought I’d be crazier than usual and I updated to the IOS 10 beta release. Does anyone know of any yet written documentation on the new features in IOS 10, I’ve found a few but others are hiding from me. The first one that really got me was iMessage being turned off after updating. But it definitely seems faster especially when setting up fingerprints in the touch sensor. Cheers for any information. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list mo
Re: IOS 10 beta
Sorry, I’ll believe the lawyers from Morrison and Foerster before Mark and Kara.:) Public means public meaning no presumption of privacy. And I’ve read and had evaluated both agreements, the Developer version is far more restrictive and I was specifically advised against signing it so never participated in that program. I’m advised both on my own dime and through the legal department at my employer that the public beta is a different animal. But if the moderators wish to be their restrictive selves and stifle legal discussions that will benefit our community it’s their list. However, I have no such prohibition on my lists so anyone interested in an open discussion about beta software may migrate there with out fear of retribution for their comments. (public betas of software only please, the developer closed stuff needs to stay in approved forums and channels. > On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:59 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote: > > Scott, even though it's a public beta, the NDA is still in effect. Cara and > Mark both say this. Mark or Cara, if you want to take it from here, go ahead. > > Shawn > Sent From My White MacBook > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >> On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net >> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: >> >> Ray, public beta buddy, has nothing to do with non disclosure. >> >> Public being the key word here. >> >> Discuss away, it’s assumed you will. >> >>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net >>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>> >>> Simon, my good sir, please allow me to gently remind you that we are >>> strictly forbidden from discussing what we are finding out in the beta >>> testing of IOS10. This pertains both to developer beta as well as the >>> public beta. Bear in mind that the public beta is public strictly in the >>> sence that the public has access to it without paying a developer fee: >>> but, open discussion of findings is strictly forbidden. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>> built-in >>> >>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! >>> >>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com >>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi List folks, >>>> >>>> Ok so today I thought I’d be crazier than usual and I updated to the IOS >>>> 10 beta release. >>>> >>>> Does anyone know of any yet written documentation on the new features in >>>> IOS 10, I’ve found a few but others are hiding from me. >>>> >>>> The first one that really got me was iMessage being turned off after >>>> updating. >>>> >>>> But it definitely seems faster especially when setting up fingerprints in >>>> the touch sensor. >>>> >>>> Cheers for any information. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisio
RE: IOS 10 beta
Hello, It seems as though we have this discussion every year. (smile). Please do not discuss beta software on this list. Thank you, Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 10:00 PM To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: IOS 10 beta Scott, even though it's a public beta, the NDA is still in effect. Cara and Mark both say this. Mark or Cara, if you want to take it from here, go ahead. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: Ray, public beta buddy, has nothing to do with non disclosure. Public being the key word here. Discuss away, it’s assumed you will. On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote: Simon, my good sir, please allow me to gently remind you that we are strictly forbidden from discussing what we are finding out in the beta testing of IOS10. This pertains both to developer beta as well as the public beta. Bear in mind that the public beta is public strictly in the sence that the public has access to it without paying a developer fee: but, open discussion of findings is strictly forbidden. Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: Hi List folks, Ok so today I thought I’d be crazier than usual and I updated to the IOS 10 beta release. Does anyone know of any yet written documentation on the new features in IOS 10, I’ve found a few but others are hiding from me. The first one that really got me was iMessage being turned off after updating. But it definitely seems faster especially when setting up fingerprints in the touch sensor. Cheers for any information. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.c
Re: IOS 10 beta
Scott, even though it's a public beta, the NDA is still in effect. Cara and Mark both say this. Mark or Cara, if you want to take it from here, go ahead. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: > > Ray, public beta buddy, has nothing to do with non disclosure. > > Public being the key word here. > > Discuss away, it’s assumed you will. > >> On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net >> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote: >> >> Simon, my good sir, please allow me to gently remind you that we are >> strictly forbidden from discussing what we are finding out in the beta >> testing of IOS10. This pertains both to developer beta as well as the >> public beta. Bear in mind that the public beta is public strictly in the >> sence that the public has access to it without paying a developer fee: but, >> open discussion of findings is strictly forbidden. >> >> >> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind >> built-in >> >> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray >> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! >> >>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com >>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi List folks, >>> >>> Ok so today I thought I’d be crazier than usual and I updated to the IOS 10 >>> beta release. >>> >>> Does anyone know of any yet written documentation on the new features in >>> IOS 10, I’ve found a few but others are hiding from me. >>> >>> The first one that really got me was iMessage being turned off after >>> updating. >>> >>> But it definitely seems faster especially when setting up fingerprints in >>> the touch sensor. >>> >>> Cheers for any information. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>> <https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ma
RE: IOS 10 beta
Thanks Gena, Ill check that out. Cheers. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2016 12:06 AM To: AppleVis List <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IOS 10 beta Hello Simon, I’m not sure how much written material Rob puts out but his podcasts list all the new features and the differences between each beta release. I see he has a twitter feed. So I could imagine the new features being tweeted. http://tii.libsyn.com Regards, Gena On 9 Jul 2016, at 11:06, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Hi List folks, Ok so today I thought I’d be crazier than usual and I updated to the IOS 10 beta release. Does anyone know of any yet written documentation on the new features in IOS 10, I’ve found a few but others are hiding from me. The first one that really got me was iMessage being turned off after updating. But it definitely seems faster especially when setting up fingerprints in the touch sensor. Cheers for any information. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: IOS 10 beta
Not in the public beta. It was released on Friday night my time. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret jr Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2016 12:06 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 10 beta Simon, my good sir, please allow me to gently remind you that we are strictly forbidden from discussing what we are finding out in the beta testing of IOS10. This pertains both to developer beta as well as the public beta. Bear in mind that the public beta is public strictly in the sence that the public has access to it without paying a developer fee: but, open discussion of findings is strictly forbidden. Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Hi List folks, Ok so today I thought I’d be crazier than usual and I updated to the IOS 10 beta release. Does anyone know of any yet written documentation on the new features in IOS 10, I’ve found a few but others are hiding from me. The first one that really got me was iMessage being turned off after updating. But it definitely seems faster especially when setting up fingerprints in the touch sensor. Cheers for any information. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: IOS 10 beta
Ray, public beta buddy, has nothing to do with non disclosure. Public being the key word here. Discuss away, it’s assumed you will. > On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Simon, my good sir, please allow me to gently remind you that we are strictly > forbidden from discussing what we are finding out in the beta testing of > IOS10. This pertains both to developer beta as well as the public beta. > Bear in mind that the public beta is public strictly in the sence that the > public has access to it without paying a developer fee: but, open discussion > of findings is strictly forbidden. > > > Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in > > Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray > Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! > >> On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com >> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi List folks, >> >> Ok so today I thought I’d be crazier than usual and I updated to the IOS 10 >> beta release. >> >> Does anyone know of any yet written documentation on the new features in IOS >> 10, I’ve found a few but others are hiding from me. >> >> The first one that really got me was iMessage being turned off after >> updating. >> >> But it definitely seems faster especially when setting up fingerprints in >> the touch sensor. >> >> Cheers for any information. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >> <https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > <https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn
Re: IOS 10 beta
And there is, or was, a mailing list for beta testers. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 7/9/2016 5:05 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote: Simon, my good sir, please allow me to gently remind you that we are strictly forbidden from discussing what we are finding out in the beta testing of IOS10. This pertains both to developer beta as well as the public beta. Bear in mind that the public beta is public strictly in the sence that the public has access to it without paying a developer fee: but, open discussion of findings is strictly forbidden. Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Hi List folks, Ok so today I thought I’d be crazier than usual and I updated to the IOS 10 beta release. Does anyone know of any yet written documentation on the new features in IOS 10, I’ve found a few but others are hiding from me. The first one that really got me was iMessage being turned off after updating. But it definitely seems faster especially when setting up fingerprints in the touch sensor. Cheers for any information. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. <>
Re: IOS 10 beta
Hello Simon, I’m not sure how much written material Rob puts out but his podcasts list all the new features and the differences between each beta release. I see he has a twitter feed. So I could imagine the new features being tweeted. http://tii.libsyn.com Regards, Gena > On 9 Jul 2016, at 11:06, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: > > Hi List folks, > > Ok so today I thought I’d be crazier than usual and I updated to the IOS 10 > beta release. > > Does anyone know of any yet written documentation on the new features in IOS > 10, I’ve found a few but others are hiding from me. > > The first one that really got me was iMessage being turned off after updating. > > But it definitely seems faster especially when setting up fingerprints in the > touch sensor. > > Cheers for any information. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > <https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: IOS 10 beta
Simon, my good sir, please allow me to gently remind you that we are strictly forbidden from discussing what we are finding out in the beta testing of IOS10. This pertains both to developer beta as well as the public beta. Bear in mind that the public beta is public strictly in the sence that the public has access to it without paying a developer fee: but, open discussion of findings is strictly forbidden. Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! > On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: > > Hi List folks, > > Ok so today I thought I’d be crazier than usual and I updated to the IOS 10 > beta release. > > Does anyone know of any yet written documentation on the new features in IOS > 10, I’ve found a few but others are hiding from me. > > The first one that really got me was iMessage being turned off after updating. > > But it definitely seems faster especially when setting up fingerprints in the > touch sensor. > > Cheers for any information. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > <https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
IOS 10 beta
Hi List folks, Ok so today I thought I'd be crazier than usual and I updated to the IOS 10 beta release. Does anyone know of any yet written documentation on the new features in IOS 10, I've found a few but others are hiding from me. The first one that really got me was iMessage being turned off after updating. But it definitely seems faster especially when setting up fingerprints in the touch sensor. Cheers for any information. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
