Re: Keychain

2024-04-22 Thread Herbie Allen
Go to a password field, and It’s right above it. You hav to touch and explore a 
little.

> On Apr 22, 2024, at 19:25, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> is there a way to call up or invoke keychain when I’m on my phone trying to 
> login to a website? usually I don’t know the password and can’t look it up. 
> sometimes keychain is on the screen and sometimes it isn’t. how do I get it 
> to come up?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Keychain

2024-04-22 Thread Lorie McCloud
is there a way to call up or invoke keychain when I’m on my phone trying to 
login to a website? usually I don’t know the password and can’t look it up. 
sometimes keychain is on the screen and sometimes it isn’t. how do I get it to 
come up?

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: Keychain Cannot be Found

2024-04-14 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   It would be so helpful if you would top post. Would make for better 
readability.


   No it was not system settings. It was the wi-fi connection somehow 
disconnected unknown to me.


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On 4/14/2024 5:43 AM, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries wrote:


On 13/4/24 17:02, ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries wrote:
    During setup I may have inadvertently changed a setting. What do I 
need to change to correct this? Many thanks.
I suppose you just use System Settings, find the setting in question, 
and fix it.




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Re: Keychain Cannot be Found

2024-04-14 Thread 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries


On 13/4/24 17:02, ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries wrote:

During setup I may have inadvertently changed a setting. What do I need to 
change to correct this? Many thanks.
I suppose you just use System Settings, find the setting in question, 
and fix it.


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Re: Keychain Cannot be Found

2024-04-13 Thread ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries
   Fixed. It was the wi-fi connection. All is good now. 

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Keychain Cannot be Found

2024-04-13 Thread ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries
Hello,
   During setup I may have inadvertently changed a setting. What do I need to 
change to correct this? Many thanks. 

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Re: Login Keychain

2024-01-26 Thread Jonathan Cohn
No, this is not file vault. By default keychains on now in the cloud and
then shared down to each machine. But since Apple is privacy counscious it
does ntot keep a decryption key for the keychain. So, your new computer is
asking for the password for one of your older computers in order to decrypt
the keychain so you can use it to fill in application and web passwords.


On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 5:04 PM 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <
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> Hello,
> While working to set up Ventura in another APFS volume, I
> encountered a request for a login keychain password. Is this buy chance
> related to file vault encryption? I normally do not have this feature
> enabled. Please enlighten me. Thanks.
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Login Keychain

2024-01-26 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

Hello,
   While working to set up Ventura in another APFS volume, I 
encountered a request for a login keychain password. Is this buy chance 
related to file vault encryption? I normally do not have this feature 
enabled. Please enlighten me. Thanks.


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Re: iCloud Keychain coming to Google Chrome on Windows for the first time | AppleInsider

2021-01-31 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
That is great.  I use Windows as well as the Mac.

Kawal.
> On 28 Jan 2021, at 14:34, 'Stur It Up Productions' via MacVisionaries 
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>>> Wesley Hilliard <https://appleinsider.com/editor/Wesley+Hilliard>
>>> <40016-76960-5CEF1ECC-F87C-4152-A0F5-C07A603D5F04-xl.jpg>
>>> Apple has updated the iCloud <https://appleinsider.com/inside/iCloud> for 
>>> Windows app with a new feature that will soon let users access their iCloud 
>>> Keychain passwords in Google Chrome.
>>> 
>>> According to release notes 
>>> <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/icloud/9pktq5699m62?activetab=pivot:overviewtab>
>>>  for the latest update, the app now offers "support for iCloud Passwords 
>>> Chrome extension." Upon updating the app, users will see a new "passwords" 
>>> section within the app. Users will be prompted to download the new Chrome 
>>> extension required to take advantage of the feature.
>>> 
>>> When enabled, the iCloud Keychain will store your passwords as you use 
>>> Safari or apps on iOS <https://appleinsider.com/inside/iOS> or across the 
>>> system on macOS <https://appleinsider.com/inside/macOS>. The update to the 
>>> iCloud for Windows app marks the first time users can use their synced 
>>> passwords on the platform.
>>> 
>>> The feature's introduction on Windows marks the first time that iCloud 
>>> Keychain support has been expanded beyond Apple's operating systems, The 
>>> 8-Bit notes 
>>> <https://the8-bit.com/google-chrome-to-get-icloud-keychain-support/>. It's 
>>> unknown if the extension will be made available for Chrome on Mac.
>>> 
>>> The update is live for the app, but as The 8-Bit notes, the extension is 
>>> not yet available. When users click on the "Download" button they are taken 
>>> to a 404 page in Chrome. The extension is likely going to become available 
>>> soon.
>>> 
>>> The iCloud for Windows app enables iPhone users to access their documents 
>>> and photos from a Windows PC. The app released on the Windows store in June 
>>> 2019 
>>> <https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/06/11/icloud-for-windows-app-with-onedrive-files-on-demand-now-in-microsoft-store>.
>>> 
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Fwd: iCloud Keychain coming to Google Chrome on Windows for the first time | AppleInsider

2021-01-28 Thread 'Stur It Up Productions' via MacVisionaries


>> Wesley Hilliard <https://appleinsider.com/editor/Wesley+Hilliard>
>> 
>> Apple has updated the iCloud <https://appleinsider.com/inside/iCloud> for 
>> Windows app with a new feature that will soon let users access their iCloud 
>> Keychain passwords in Google Chrome.
>> 
>> According to release notes 
>> <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/icloud/9pktq5699m62?activetab=pivot:overviewtab>
>>  for the latest update, the app now offers "support for iCloud Passwords 
>> Chrome extension." Upon updating the app, users will see a new "passwords" 
>> section within the app. Users will be prompted to download the new Chrome 
>> extension required to take advantage of the feature.
>> 
>> When enabled, the iCloud Keychain will store your passwords as you use 
>> Safari or apps on iOS <https://appleinsider.com/inside/iOS> or across the 
>> system on macOS <https://appleinsider.com/inside/macOS>. The update to the 
>> iCloud for Windows app marks the first time users can use their synced 
>> passwords on the platform.
>> 
>> The feature's introduction on Windows marks the first time that iCloud 
>> Keychain support has been expanded beyond Apple's operating systems, The 
>> 8-Bit notes 
>> <https://the8-bit.com/google-chrome-to-get-icloud-keychain-support/>. It's 
>> unknown if the extension will be made available for Chrome on Mac.
>> 
>> The update is live for the app, but as The 8-Bit notes, the extension is not 
>> yet available. When users click on the "Download" button they are taken to a 
>> 404 page in Chrome. The extension is likely going to become available soon.
>> 
>> The iCloud for Windows app enables iPhone users to access their documents 
>> and photos from a Windows PC. The app released on the Windows store in June 
>> 2019 
>> <https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/06/11/icloud-for-windows-app-with-onedrive-files-on-demand-now-in-microsoft-store>.
>> 

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RE: passwords export to 1Password from Keychain

2021-01-22 Thread Maria Reyes
You can't export passwords from Keychain to 1Password. You will have to copy 
and paste them.

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To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: passwords export to 1Password from Keychain

Hello,

I have a question for you.

How do I move passwords from Keychain to 1Password?

Thank you.

T.N

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passwords export to 1Password from Keychain

2021-01-22 Thread Tibor Niesner
Hello,

I have a question for you.

How do I move passwords from Keychain to 1Password?

Thank you.

T.N

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Re: Keychain

2020-03-29 Thread Lorie McCloud
ok. that explains why I can't find it. thanks.

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:40 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Yes.  In order to use iCloud Keychain on your iOS device, you must have a 
> passcode enabled.  Once you have a passcode, you may use either TouchID or 
> FaceID, but this is optional.
> Keychain will not work without security enabled.
> 
> HTH
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Mar 28, 2020, at 19:47, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> are you saying that you have to have security code and/or fingerprint enabled 
> in order to use keychain on your IOS device? 
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 6:17 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I like my keychain to be simple.  If Mark’s wonderful keychain can keep my 
>> passwords safe especially if I rely on the keychain to remember my passwords 
>> for the websites I visit, then I am a happy person as I can’t remember 
>> generated passwords so I keep my passwords simple but strong for me to 
>> remember.  So Mark, how much is your wonderful keychain?
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>>> On 28 Mar 2020, at 15:14, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> When in Safari, double-tap either the username entry field, or the password 
>>> entry field.  This will activate your cursor and bring up the on-screen 
>>> keyboard.  This next part isn't consistent, as sometimes it takes more 
>>> swipes than others, but, if you have a keychain entry for this item, there 
>>> will either be a suggestion or a "Password" button as you swipe right from 
>>> the entry fields.
>>> 
>>> So, for example, if you were on www.fitbit.com <http://www.fitbit.com/>, 
>>> and you double-tapped in the username field, then swiped right listening to 
>>> the various elements announced by VO, you might get an item announced such 
>>> as "Use Lori with such and such eMail address for fitbit.com 
>>> <http://fitbit.com/>?".  If that is the one you wish to use, then 
>>> double-tap it.  If it is not, or if the keychain is having difficulties 
>>> figuring out which entry to use, there will also be a Password button that 
>>> you can use that will open up all entries in your keychain.  Your 
>>> fingerprint or FaceID will be required in both cases to access the keychain 
>>> entries.  Also, the actual passwords are not displayed, just the site and 
>>> username possibilities.  If you do not get a specific suggestion, then 
>>> simply swipe through the choices until you find the one you wish to use.  
>>> Double-tap on it and its credentials will be entered for you.  You will 
>>> usually still need to double-tap the Sign-In or LogIn buttons to proceed, 
>>> but this is also a little inconsistent.  I'm not sure if the 
>>> inconsistencies are due to Apple or due to the inconsistent nature of 
>>> web-page coding.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 00:15, Lorie McCloud >> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> 
>>> you're right. it's complicated. Safari is the only browser I use but I was 
>>> expecting it to be as easy to use as the saved credentials are on a Mac. 
>>> not that I don't have all my passwords written down but since they're 
>>> already saved in Safari on my Mac I was hoping to use a few of them on my 
>>> phone. oh well... I'll play around with it and see what happens.
>>> 
>>> Lorie
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor >>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Lorie,
>>>> 
>>>> You ask a simple question but, I’m afraid, the answer is not so simple.
>>>> 
>>>> Let me start by saying that I think the Apple Key Chain, as a password 
>>>> manager, is an excellent alternative to some third-party password managers.
>>>> 
>>>> It's safe, easy to use, consistent across all of your Apple devices, and 
>>>> free, as it were.
>>>> 
>>>> In short, there are two general methods for using Apple Key Chain, as a 
>>>>

Re: Keychain

2020-03-28 Thread Brad Snyder
Yes.  In order to use iCloud Keychain on your iOS device, you must have a 
passcode enabled.  Once you have a passcode, you may use either TouchID or 
FaceID, but this is optional.
Keychain will not work without security enabled.

HTH

- Brad -


On Mar 28, 2020, at 19:47, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

are you saying that you have to have security code and/or fingerprint enabled 
in order to use keychain on your IOS device? 

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 6:17 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I like my keychain to be simple.  If Mark’s wonderful keychain can keep my 
> passwords safe especially if I rely on the keychain to remember my passwords 
> for the websites I visit, then I am a happy person as I can’t remember 
> generated passwords so I keep my passwords simple but strong for me to 
> remember.  So Mark, how much is your wonderful keychain?
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 28 Mar 2020, at 15:14, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> When in Safari, double-tap either the username entry field, or the password 
>> entry field.  This will activate your cursor and bring up the on-screen 
>> keyboard.  This next part isn't consistent, as sometimes it takes more 
>> swipes than others, but, if you have a keychain entry for this item, there 
>> will either be a suggestion or a "Password" button as you swipe right from 
>> the entry fields.
>> 
>> So, for example, if you were on www.fitbit.com <http://www.fitbit.com/>, and 
>> you double-tapped in the username field, then swiped right listening to the 
>> various elements announced by VO, you might get an item announced such as 
>> "Use Lori with such and such eMail address for fitbit.com 
>> <http://fitbit.com/>?".  If that is the one you wish to use, then double-tap 
>> it.  If it is not, or if the keychain is having difficulties figuring out 
>> which entry to use, there will also be a Password button that you can use 
>> that will open up all entries in your keychain.  Your fingerprint or FaceID 
>> will be required in both cases to access the keychain entries.  Also, the 
>> actual passwords are not displayed, just the site and username 
>> possibilities.  If you do not get a specific suggestion, then simply swipe 
>> through the choices until you find the one you wish to use.  Double-tap on 
>> it and its credentials will be entered for you.  You will usually still need 
>> to double-tap the Sign-In or LogIn buttons to proceed, but this is also a 
>> little inconsistent.  I'm not sure if the inconsistencies are due to Apple 
>> or due to the inconsistent nature of web-page coding.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 00:15, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> you're right. it's complicated. Safari is the only browser I use but I was 
>> expecting it to be as easy to use as the saved credentials are on a Mac. not 
>> that I don't have all my passwords written down but since they're already 
>> saved in Safari on my Mac I was hoping to use a few of them on my phone. oh 
>> well... I'll play around with it and see what happens.
>> 
>> Lorie
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor >> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Lorie,
>>> 
>>> You ask a simple question but, I’m afraid, the answer is not so simple.
>>> 
>>> Let me start by saying that I think the Apple Key Chain, as a password 
>>> manager, is an excellent alternative to some third-party password managers.
>>> 
>>> It's safe, easy to use, consistent across all of your Apple devices, and 
>>> free, as it were.
>>> 
>>> In short, there are two general methods for using Apple Key Chain, as a 
>>> password manager.  The first method, which is what I suspect you wish to 
>>> learn how to use, is to have the Key Chain automatically enter your login 
>>> credentials when prompted by an app or a website.
>>> 
>>> The second method is to open the Key Chain password manager and lookup the 
>>> login credentials, manually.
>>> 
>>> I suggest that you read the Apple user manuals and search for relative 
>>> topics via Google as, in my opinion, there are just too many variables and

Re: Keychain

2020-03-28 Thread Lorie McCloud
are you saying that you have to have security code and/or fingerprint enabled 
in order to use keychain on your IOS device? 

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 6:17 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I like my keychain to be simple.  If Mark’s wonderful keychain can keep my 
> passwords safe especially if I rely on the keychain to remember my passwords 
> for the websites I visit, then I am a happy person as I can’t remember 
> generated passwords so I keep my passwords simple but strong for me to 
> remember.  So Mark, how much is your wonderful keychain?
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 28 Mar 2020, at 15:14, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> When in Safari, double-tap either the username entry field, or the password 
>> entry field.  This will activate your cursor and bring up the on-screen 
>> keyboard.  This next part isn't consistent, as sometimes it takes more 
>> swipes than others, but, if you have a keychain entry for this item, there 
>> will either be a suggestion or a "Password" button as you swipe right from 
>> the entry fields.
>> 
>> So, for example, if you were on www.fitbit.com <http://www.fitbit.com/>, and 
>> you double-tapped in the username field, then swiped right listening to the 
>> various elements announced by VO, you might get an item announced such as 
>> "Use Lori with such and such eMail address for fitbit.com 
>> <http://fitbit.com/>?".  If that is the one you wish to use, then double-tap 
>> it.  If it is not, or if the keychain is having difficulties figuring out 
>> which entry to use, there will also be a Password button that you can use 
>> that will open up all entries in your keychain.  Your fingerprint or FaceID 
>> will be required in both cases to access the keychain entries.  Also, the 
>> actual passwords are not displayed, just the site and username 
>> possibilities.  If you do not get a specific suggestion, then simply swipe 
>> through the choices until you find the one you wish to use.  Double-tap on 
>> it and its credentials will be entered for you.  You will usually still need 
>> to double-tap the Sign-In or LogIn buttons to proceed, but this is also a 
>> little inconsistent.  I'm not sure if the inconsistencies are due to Apple 
>> or due to the inconsistent nature of web-page coding.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 00:15, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> you're right. it's complicated. Safari is the only browser I use but I was 
>> expecting it to be as easy to use as the saved credentials are on a Mac. not 
>> that I don't have all my passwords written down but since they're already 
>> saved in Safari on my Mac I was hoping to use a few of them on my phone. oh 
>> well... I'll play around with it and see what happens.
>> 
>> Lorie
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor >> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Lorie,
>>> 
>>> You ask a simple question but, I’m afraid, the answer is not so simple.
>>> 
>>> Let me start by saying that I think the Apple Key Chain, as a password 
>>> manager, is an excellent alternative to some third-party password managers.
>>> 
>>> It's safe, easy to use, consistent across all of your Apple devices, and 
>>> free, as it were.
>>> 
>>> In short, there are two general methods for using Apple Key Chain, as a 
>>> password manager.  The first method, which is what I suspect you wish to 
>>> learn how to use, is to have the Key Chain automatically enter your login 
>>> credentials when prompted by an app or a website.
>>> 
>>> The second method is to open the Key Chain password manager and lookup the 
>>> login credentials, manually.
>>> 
>>> I suggest that you read the Apple user manuals and search for relative 
>>> topics via Google as, in my opinion, there are just too many variables and 
>>> nuances of Key Chain, as a password manager, to cover in one succinct reply.
>>> 
>>> However, I will list the following points that you should keep in mind when 
>>> exploring the Apple Key Chain as a password manager.
>>> 
>>> Please keep in mind that I am referring to the automatic entry 

Re: Keychain

2020-03-28 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
I like my keychain to be simple.  If Mark’s wonderful keychain can keep my 
passwords safe especially if I rely on the keychain to remember my passwords 
for the websites I visit, then I am a happy person as I can’t remember 
generated passwords so I keep my passwords simple but strong for me to 
remember.  So Mark, how much is your wonderful keychain?

Kawal.

> On 28 Mar 2020, at 15:14, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> When in Safari, double-tap either the username entry field, or the password 
> entry field.  This will activate your cursor and bring up the on-screen 
> keyboard.  This next part isn't consistent, as sometimes it takes more swipes 
> than others, but, if you have a keychain entry for this item, there will 
> either be a suggestion or a "Password" button as you swipe right from the 
> entry fields.
> 
> So, for example, if you were on www.fitbit.com <http://www.fitbit.com/>, and 
> you double-tapped in the username field, then swiped right listening to the 
> various elements announced by VO, you might get an item announced such as 
> "Use Lori with such and such eMail address for fitbit.com 
> <http://fitbit.com/>?".  If that is the one you wish to use, then double-tap 
> it.  If it is not, or if the keychain is having difficulties figuring out 
> which entry to use, there will also be a Password button that you can use 
> that will open up all entries in your keychain.  Your fingerprint or FaceID 
> will be required in both cases to access the keychain entries.  Also, the 
> actual passwords are not displayed, just the site and username possibilities. 
>  If you do not get a specific suggestion, then simply swipe through the 
> choices until you find the one you wish to use.  Double-tap on it and its 
> credentials will be entered for you.  You will usually still need to 
> double-tap the Sign-In or LogIn buttons to proceed, but this is also a little 
> inconsistent.  I'm not sure if the inconsistencies are due to Apple or due to 
> the inconsistent nature of web-page coding.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 28, 2020, at 00:15, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> you're right. it's complicated. Safari is the only browser I use but I was 
> expecting it to be as easy to use as the saved credentials are on a Mac. not 
> that I don't have all my passwords written down but since they're already 
> saved in Safari on my Mac I was hoping to use a few of them on my phone. oh 
> well... I'll play around with it and see what happens.
> 
> Lorie
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor > <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Lorie,
>> 
>> You ask a simple question but, I’m afraid, the answer is not so simple.
>> 
>> Let me start by saying that I think the Apple Key Chain, as a password 
>> manager, is an excellent alternative to some third-party password managers.
>> 
>> It's safe, easy to use, consistent across all of your Apple devices, and 
>> free, as it were.
>> 
>> In short, there are two general methods for using Apple Key Chain, as a 
>> password manager.  The first method, which is what I suspect you wish to 
>> learn how to use, is to have the Key Chain automatically enter your login 
>> credentials when prompted by an app or a website.
>> 
>> The second method is to open the Key Chain password manager and lookup the 
>> login credentials, manually.
>> 
>> I suggest that you read the Apple user manuals and search for relative 
>> topics via Google as, in my opinion, there are just too many variables and 
>> nuances of Key Chain, as a password manager, to cover in one succinct reply.
>> 
>> However, I will list the following points that you should keep in mind when 
>> exploring the Apple Key Chain as a password manager.
>> 
>> Please keep in mind that I am referring to the automatic entry feature of 
>> the Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, only:
>> 
>> 1.
>> Generally speaking, the Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, works best 
>> when logging into websites via Safari.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Many websites will not function-as-expected with the Apple Key Chain, as a 
>> password manager.
>> 
>> 3.
>> While some third-party apps, such as those developed by Google, will work 
>> with the Apple Key Chain, as an automatic-entry password manager, many more 
>> will not function as expected.
>> 
>> 4.
>> In some situat

Re: Keychain

2020-03-28 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

When in Safari, double-tap either the username entry field, or the password 
entry field.  This will activate your cursor and bring up the on-screen 
keyboard.  This next part isn't consistent, as sometimes it takes more swipes 
than others, but, if you have a keychain entry for this item, there will either 
be a suggestion or a "Password" button as you swipe right from the entry fields.

So, for example, if you were on www.fitbit.com, and you double-tapped in the 
username field, then swiped right listening to the various elements announced 
by VO, you might get an item announced such as "Use Lori with such and such 
eMail address for fitbit.com?".  If that is the one you wish to use, then 
double-tap it.  If it is not, or if the keychain is having difficulties 
figuring out which entry to use, there will also be a Password button that you 
can use that will open up all entries in your keychain.  Your fingerprint or 
FaceID will be required in both cases to access the keychain entries.  Also, 
the actual passwords are not displayed, just the site and username 
possibilities.  If you do not get a specific suggestion, then simply swipe 
through the choices until you find the one you wish to use.  Double-tap on it 
and its credentials will be entered for you.  You will usually still need to 
double-tap the Sign-In or LogIn buttons to proceed, but this is also a little 
inconsistent.  I'm not sure if the inconsistencies are due to Apple or due to 
the inconsistent nature of web-page coding.

HTH.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 28, 2020, at 00:15, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

Hi Mark,

you're right. it's complicated. Safari is the only browser I use but I was 
expecting it to be as easy to use as the saved credentials are on a Mac. not 
that I don't have all my passwords written down but since they're already saved 
in Safari on my Mac I was hoping to use a few of them on my phone. oh well... 
I'll play around with it and see what happens.

Lorie

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Lorie,
> 
> You ask a simple question but, I’m afraid, the answer is not so simple.
> 
> Let me start by saying that I think the Apple Key Chain, as a password 
> manager, is an excellent alternative to some third-party password managers.
> 
> It's safe, easy to use, consistent across all of your Apple devices, and 
> free, as it were.
> 
> In short, there are two general methods for using Apple Key Chain, as a 
> password manager.  The first method, which is what I suspect you wish to 
> learn how to use, is to have the Key Chain automatically enter your login 
> credentials when prompted by an app or a website.
> 
> The second method is to open the Key Chain password manager and lookup the 
> login credentials, manually.
> 
> I suggest that you read the Apple user manuals and search for relative topics 
> via Google as, in my opinion, there are just too many variables and nuances 
> of Key Chain, as a password manager, to cover in one succinct reply.
> 
> However, I will list the following points that you should keep in mind when 
> exploring the Apple Key Chain as a password manager.
> 
> Please keep in mind that I am referring to the automatic entry feature of the 
> Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, only:
> 
> 1.
> Generally speaking, the Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, works best 
> when logging into websites via Safari.
> 
> 2.
> Many websites will not function-as-expected with the Apple Key Chain, as a 
> password manager.
> 
> 3.
> While some third-party apps, such as those developed by Google, will work 
> with the Apple Key Chain, as an automatic-entry password manager, many more 
> will not function as expected.
> 
> 4.
> In some situations, when you want to use the Key Chain password manager 
> feature with an app, such as BARD Mobile for iOS, you will need to first 
> login to the service, via Safari, then when prompted, save the password.  
> Afterwards, when you are prompted to enter the username and/or password from 
> within the app, you can launch the Key Chain manager and have it enter your 
> credentials, automatically.
> 
> Possible Scenario in which you want to have your login credentials 
> automatically entered into a third-party app that does not support the Apple 
> Key Chain password manager, in iOS:
> 
> Assuming that you have the Apple Key Chain enabled as described in the Apple 
> user manuals:  
> 
> 1.
> Open Mark's Wonderful App, on your Apple device.  You are prompted for your 
> login credentials.
> 
> 2.
> Enter your credentials and select the continue / OK button.  You are logged 
> into the app without being prompted to save your credentials in the 

Re: Keychain

2020-03-28 Thread Lorie McCloud
Hi Mark,

you're right. it's complicated. Safari is the only browser I use but I was 
expecting it to be as easy to use as the saved credentials are on a Mac. not 
that I don't have all my passwords written down but since they're already saved 
in Safari on my Mac I was hoping to use a few of them on my phone. oh well... 
I'll play around with it and see what happens.

Lorie

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Lorie,
> 
> You ask a simple question but, I’m afraid, the answer is not so simple.
> 
> Let me start by saying that I think the Apple Key Chain, as a password 
> manager, is an excellent alternative to some third-party password managers.
> 
> It's safe, easy to use, consistent across all of your Apple devices, and 
> free, as it were.
> 
> In short, there are two general methods for using Apple Key Chain, as a 
> password manager.  The first method, which is what I suspect you wish to 
> learn how to use, is to have the Key Chain automatically enter your login 
> credentials when prompted by an app or a website.
> 
> The second method is to open the Key Chain password manager and lookup the 
> login credentials, manually.
> 
> I suggest that you read the Apple user manuals and search for relative topics 
> via Google as, in my opinion, there are just too many variables and nuances 
> of Key Chain, as a password manager, to cover in one succinct reply.
> 
> However, I will list the following points that you should keep in mind when 
> exploring the Apple Key Chain as a password manager.
> 
> Please keep in mind that I am referring to the automatic entry feature of the 
> Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, only:
> 
> 1.
> Generally speaking, the Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, works best 
> when logging into websites via Safari.
> 
> 2.
> Many websites will not function-as-expected with the Apple Key Chain, as a 
> password manager.
> 
> 3.
> While some third-party apps, such as those developed by Google, will work 
> with the Apple Key Chain, as an automatic-entry password manager, many more 
> will not function as expected.
> 
> 4.
> In some situations, when you want to use the Key Chain password manager 
> feature with an app, such as BARD Mobile for iOS, you will need to first 
> login to the service, via Safari, then when prompted, save the password.  
> Afterwards, when you are prompted to enter the username and/or password from 
> within the app, you can launch the Key Chain manager and have it enter your 
> credentials, automatically.
> 
> Possible Scenario in which you want to have your login credentials 
> automatically entered into a third-party app that does not support the Apple 
> Key Chain password manager, in iOS:
> 
> Assuming that you have the Apple Key Chain enabled as described in the Apple 
> user manuals:  
> 
> 1.
> Open Mark's Wonderful App, on your Apple device.  You are prompted for your 
> login credentials.
> 
> 2.
> Enter your credentials and select the continue / OK button.  You are logged 
> into the app without being prompted to save your credentials in the Apple Key 
> Chain.
> 
> 3.
> Logout of Mark's Wonderful App.
> 
> 4.
> Open Safari and go to www.MarksWonderfulAppsOnlineWebsite.
> 
> 5.
> Login to your account using your credentials.  Hopefully, you are prompted to 
> save your login credentials to the Apple Key Chain.
> 
> 6.
> Save your credentials to the Key Chain.
> 
> 7. 
> Logout of your account and close Safari.
> 
> 8.
> Open Mark's Wonderful App, on your Apple device.  You are prompted for your 
> login credentials.
> 
> 9.
> Activate an edit field, for example, the username or email edit field.  The 
> onscreen keyboard will appear.
> 
> 10.
> In the suggestion area of the onscreen keyboard, either select the correct 
> option, if listed or, select the "passwords" button.  Doing this will cause 
> your device to prompt you to authenticate your request.
> 
> 11.
> After successful authentication, you will see a list of all of your saved 
> accounts and credentials.
> 
> 12.
> Select the correct option and the credentials will be automatically entered 
> into the login text edit fields of Mark's Wonderful App.
> 
> 13.
> Select the continue / OK button.
> 
> 14.
> Put a big smile on your face.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:45 PM
> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Keychain
> 
> I have tried to set things on my Mac and on my phone so that keychain works 
> bu

RE: Keychain

2020-03-27 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Lorie,

You ask a simple question but, I’m afraid, the answer is not so simple.

Let me start by saying that I think the Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, 
is an excellent alternative to some third-party password managers.

It's safe, easy to use, consistent across all of your Apple devices, and free, 
as it were.

In short, there are two general methods for using Apple Key Chain, as a 
password manager.  The first method, which is what I suspect you wish to learn 
how to use, is to have the Key Chain automatically enter your login credentials 
when prompted by an app or a website.

The second method is to open the Key Chain password manager and lookup the 
login credentials, manually.

I suggest that you read the Apple user manuals and search for relative topics 
via Google as, in my opinion, there are just too many variables and nuances of 
Key Chain, as a password manager, to cover in one succinct reply.

However, I will list the following points that you should keep in mind when 
exploring the Apple Key Chain as a password manager.

Please keep in mind that I am referring to the automatic entry feature of the 
Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, only:

1.
Generally speaking, the Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, works best when 
logging into websites via Safari.

2.
Many websites will not function-as-expected with the Apple Key Chain, as a 
password manager.

3.
While some third-party apps, such as those developed by Google, will work with 
the Apple Key Chain, as an automatic-entry password manager, many more will not 
function as expected.

4.
In some situations, when you want to use the Key Chain password manager feature 
with an app, such as BARD Mobile for iOS, you will need to first login to the 
service, via Safari, then when prompted, save the password.  Afterwards, when 
you are prompted to enter the username and/or password from within the app, you 
can launch the Key Chain manager and have it enter your credentials, 
automatically.

Possible Scenario in which you want to have your login credentials 
automatically entered into a third-party app that does not support the Apple 
Key Chain password manager, in iOS:

Assuming that you have the Apple Key Chain enabled as described in the Apple 
user manuals:  

1.
Open Mark's Wonderful App, on your Apple device.  You are prompted for your 
login credentials.

2.
Enter your credentials and select the continue / OK button.  You are logged 
into the app without being prompted to save your credentials in the Apple Key 
Chain.

3.
Logout of Mark's Wonderful App.

4.
Open Safari and go to www.MarksWonderfulAppsOnlineWebsite.

5.
Login to your account using your credentials.  Hopefully, you are prompted to 
save your login credentials to the Apple Key Chain.

6.
Save your credentials to the Key Chain.

7. 
Logout of your account and close Safari.

8.
Open Mark's Wonderful App, on your Apple device.  You are prompted for your 
login credentials.

9.
Activate an edit field, for example, the username or email edit field.  The 
onscreen keyboard will appear.

10.
In the suggestion area of the onscreen keyboard, either select the correct 
option, if listed or, select the "passwords" button.  Doing this will cause 
your device to prompt you to authenticate your request.

11.
After successful authentication, you will see a list of all of your saved 
accounts and credentials.

12.
Select the correct option and the credentials will be automatically entered 
into the login text edit fields of Mark's Wonderful App.

13.
Select the continue / OK button.

14.
Put a big smile on your face.

Good Luck,

Mark

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On Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:45 PM
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Keychain

I have tried to set things on my Mac and on my phone so that keychain works but 
I still can't find the option to use it when I'm asked to sign in somewhere on 
my phone. where is it on the screen? or perhaps there's another problem. 
suggestions?

thanks.
Lorie

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Keychain

2020-03-27 Thread Lorie McCloud
I have tried to set things on my Mac and on my phone so that keychain works but 
I still can't find the option to use it when I'm asked to sign in somewhere on 
my phone. where is it on the screen? or perhaps there's another problem. 
suggestions?

thanks.
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Re: Keychain

2020-03-05 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

   There is also Help Tags, executed with VO-Shift-H.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/4/2020 11:14 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

this is helpful info. I didn't know at all. oh yes. I can hear. thanks for 
this. often I hear sounds but I don't know what they mean.


On Mar 4, 2020, at 10:19 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:

Well, glad you got it.
When ever the vo cursor moves over something that can be interacted with, there 
is a sound effect and if it is a group of items it will also say group.  It 
makes vo navigation much faster, but it is something to get used to.

in the vo help menu, there is a list of most if not all of the vo navigation 
sounds.  You can just arrow through them.  i am assuming that you can hear.  If 
not then of course that won’t be of much help.



On Mar 4, 2020, at 21:38, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I didn't go to internet accounts. I did go to iCloud. it's listed in system 
prefs. where I seem to run into trouble is knowing when to interact and what to 
interact with. if I don't do that right I don't find half of what's in there.


On Mar 4, 2020, at 7:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

There is no iCloud preferences. Open System Preferences, Internet, choose the 
account you want and in the table you will find Keychain where you can enable 
it.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/4/2020 5:17 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?

On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.



On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:

can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I guess 
that's not where it is.

thanks.
Lorie


On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access is an 
app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud passwords and logons.


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Re: Keychain

2020-03-04 Thread Lorie McCloud
this is helpful info. I didn't know at all. oh yes. I can hear. thanks for 
this. often I hear sounds but I don't know what they mean.

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 10:19 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
> Well, glad you got it.
> When ever the vo cursor moves over something that can be interacted with, 
> there is a sound effect and if it is a group of items it will also say group. 
>  It makes vo navigation much faster, but it is something to get used to.
> 
> in the vo help menu, there is a list of most if not all of the vo navigation 
> sounds.  You can just arrow through them.  i am assuming that you can hear.  
> If not then of course that won’t be of much help.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 21:38, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I didn't go to internet accounts. I did go to iCloud. it's listed in system 
>> prefs. where I seem to run into trouble is knowing when to interact and what 
>> to interact with. if I don't do that right I don't find half of what's in 
>> there.
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 7:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is no iCloud preferences. Open System Preferences, Internet, choose 
>>> the account you want and in the table you will find Keychain where you can 
>>> enable it.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 3/4/2020 5:17 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>>> where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder >>>> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
>>>>> In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  
>>>>> Then interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud >>>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I 
>>>>>> guess that's not where it is.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson >>>>>> <mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain 
>>>>>>> Access is an app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud 
>>>>>>> passwords and logons.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>>>>> Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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Re: Keychain

2020-03-04 Thread Barry Hadder
Well, glad you got it.
When ever the vo cursor moves over something that can be interacted with, there 
is a sound effect and if it is a group of items it will also say group.  It 
makes vo navigation much faster, but it is something to get used to.

in the vo help menu, there is a list of most if not all of the vo navigation 
sounds.  You can just arrow through them.  i am assuming that you can hear.  If 
not then of course that won’t be of much help.


> On Mar 4, 2020, at 21:38, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I didn't go to internet accounts. I did go to iCloud. it's listed in system 
> prefs. where I seem to run into trouble is knowing when to interact and what 
> to interact with. if I don't do that right I don't find half of what's in 
> there.
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 7:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  There is no iCloud preferences. Open System Preferences, Internet, choose 
>> the account you want and in the table you will find Keychain where you can 
>> enable it.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 3/4/2020 5:17 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>> where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?
>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder >>> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
>>>> In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
>>>> interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud >>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I 
>>>>> guess that's not where it is.
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>> Lorie
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson >>>>> <mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access 
>>>>>> is an app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud passwords 
>>>>>> and logons.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>>>> Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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Re: Keychain

2020-03-04 Thread Lorie McCloud
I didn't go to internet accounts. I did go to iCloud. it's listed in system 
prefs. where I seem to run into trouble is knowing when to interact and what to 
interact with. if I don't do that right I don't find half of what's in there.

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 7:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   There is no iCloud preferences. Open System Preferences, Internet, choose 
> the account you want and in the table you will find Keychain where you can 
> enable it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 3/4/2020 5:17 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?
>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder >> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
>>> In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
>>> interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud >>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I 
>>>> guess that's not where it is.
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson >>>> <mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access 
>>>>> is an app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud passwords and 
>>>>> logons.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>>> Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: Keychain

2020-03-04 Thread Lorie McCloud
I did say I went to iCloud in system prefs. didn't have much luck the first 
time I tried it but after you described to me how to do it, I think I got that 
box checked. I'm still running Mojave.

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
> i thought you said you went to iCloud prefs.  That is where it is in Mojave.
> In Catalina you will go to internet accounts.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 19:17, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder >> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
>>> In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
>>> interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud >>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I 
>>>> guess that's not where it is.
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson >>>> <mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access 
>>>>> is an app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud passwords and 
>>>>> logons.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>>> Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: Keychain

2020-03-04 Thread Barry Hadder
i thought you said you went to iCloud prefs.  That is where it is in Mojave.
In Catalina you will go to internet accounts.


> On Mar 4, 2020, at 19:17, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder > <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
>> In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
>> interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud >> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I guess 
>>> that's not where it is.
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson >>> <mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access 
>>>> is an app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud passwords and 
>>>> logons.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>> Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Keychain

2020-03-04 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   There is no iCloud preferences. Open System Preferences, Internet, 
choose the account you want and in the table you will find Keychain 
where you can enable it.


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On 3/4/2020 5:17 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?

On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:


If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it. 
 Then interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.



On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:


can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I 
guess that's not where it is.


thanks.
Lorie

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Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain 
Access is an app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud 
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Re: Keychain

2020-03-04 Thread Lorie McCloud
where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
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> In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
> interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.
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>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I guess 
>> that's not where it is.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson >> <mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
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>>> logons.
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Re: Keychain

2020-03-04 Thread Brad Snyder
FYI - In macOS Catalina, iCloud preferences has been changed to Apple ID.  Once 
you find it, it is pretty much the same as when it was called iCloud in 
previous macOS versions.

HTH

- Brad -


On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:50, Barry Hadder mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.


> On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I guess 
> that's not where it is.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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>> logons.
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Re: Keychain

2020-03-04 Thread Barry Hadder
If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.


> On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I guess 
> that's not where it is.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson > <mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
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>> Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access is 
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>> logons.
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Re: Keychain

2020-03-04 Thread Dave Carlson
Lorie,
Go to your Applications folder. It’s either there, or in the Utilities folder 
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Re: Keychain

2020-03-04 Thread Lorie McCloud
can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I guess 
that's not where it is.

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: Keychain

2020-03-04 Thread Dave Carlson
Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access is an 
app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud passwords and logons.


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Keychain

2020-03-04 Thread Lorie McCloud
Keychain is on in my phone but I've never seen the option to use it? is there 
something I need to do on my Mac?

thanks.
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Keychain and ssh

2020-03-02 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
While we're discussing keychain, it may be worth mentioning that, as I recently 
found out, you can store your ssh key on your Mac OS keychain. The Mac OS 
version of ssh-add supports the -K option, which adds keys to the keychain.

You can then edit ~/.ssh/config and add the following lines:
AddKeysToAgent yes
And an additional line for each key, as in:
IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_ed25519
And so on for each key, if you have more than one.

I suspect I'm not the only one here who finds this useful.

On 3/1/20, 14:59, "Maria Reyes"  wrote:

Go to settings, find your name and double tap on it. Find iCloud, then find 
the button that says Keychain off and toggle it to on. you might have to enter 
your Apple ID password.

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> On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:54 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> can you tell me how to activate it?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
>> 
>> hi,
>> You don't need any of that.  You might need to enter your pass code 
though.
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 17:29, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't have face ID or touch ID enabled. do I need one of those to 
activate keychain on an IOS device?
>>> 
    >>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Maria Reyes  
wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, When you go to a website where keychain has your log in 
credentials saved, you will see it ask you if you want to log into the website 
using the username or email you provided then next to that you will get a 
button that says log in with and it will say your username. double tap on that 
button and you will have to authenticate with FaceID or Touch ID.
>>>> 
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>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Lorie McCloud  
wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> if keychain is turned on, how does it look on an ios device, say, a 
phone? I'm familiar with how to use command-shift-a to fill in username and 
password on a Mac but I don't know what to look for on my phone. I'm not even 
sure if it's turned on or not although I know I tried to turn it on once.
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>> Lorie
>>>>> 
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Re: Keychain

2020-03-01 Thread Maria Reyes
Go to settings, find your name and double tap on it. Find iCloud, then find the 
button that says Keychain off and toggle it to on. you might have to enter your 
Apple ID password.

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> On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:54 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> can you tell me how to activate it?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
>> 
>> hi,
>> You don't need any of that.  You might need to enter your pass code though.
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 17:29, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't have face ID or touch ID enabled. do I need one of those to 
>>> activate keychain on an IOS device?
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, When you go to a website where keychain has your log in credentials 
>>>> saved, you will see it ask you if you want to log into the website using 
>>>> the username or email you provided then next to that you will get a button 
>>>> that says log in with and it will say your username. double tap on that 
>>>> button and you will have to authenticate with FaceID or Touch ID.
>>>> 
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>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> if keychain is turned on, how does it look on an ios device, say, a 
>>>>> phone? I'm familiar with how to use command-shift-a to fill in username 
>>>>> and password on a Mac but I don't know what to look for on my phone. I'm 
>>>>> not even sure if it's turned on or not although I know I tried to turn it 
>>>>> on once.
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>> Lorie
>>>>> 
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Re: Keychain

2020-03-01 Thread Lorie McCloud
can you tell me how to activate it?

thanks.
Lorie



> On Mar 1, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> You don't need any of that.  You might need to enter your pass code though.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 17:29, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't have face ID or touch ID enabled. do I need one of those to activate 
>> keychain on an IOS device?
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, When you go to a website where keychain has your log in credentials 
>>> saved, you will see it ask you if you want to log into the website using 
>>> the username or email you provided then next to that you will get a button 
>>> that says log in with and it will say your username. double tap on that 
>>> button and you will have to authenticate with FaceID or Touch ID.
>>> 
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>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> if keychain is turned on, how does it look on an ios device, say, a 
>>>> phone? I'm familiar with how to use command-shift-a to fill in username 
>>>> and password on a Mac but I don't know what to look for on my phone. I'm 
>>>> not even sure if it's turned on or not although I know I tried to turn it 
>>>> on once.
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
>>>> 
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Re: Keychain

2020-03-01 Thread Barry Hadder
hi,
You don't need any of that.  You might need to enter your pass code though.


> On Feb 29, 2020, at 17:29, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I don't have face ID or touch ID enabled. do I need one of those to activate 
> keychain on an IOS device?
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, When you go to a website where keychain has your log in credentials 
>> saved, you will see it ask you if you want to log into the website using the 
>> username or email you provided then next to that you will get a button that 
>> says log in with and it will say your username. double tap on that button 
>> and you will have to authenticate with FaceID or Touch ID.
>> 
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>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> if keychain is turned on, how does it look on an ios device, say, a phone? 
>>> I'm familiar with how to use command-shift-a to fill in username and 
>>> password on a Mac but I don't know what to look for on my phone. I'm not 
>>> even sure if it's turned on or not although I know I tried to turn it on 
>>> once.
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
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Re: Keychain

2020-02-29 Thread Lorie McCloud
I don't have face ID or touch ID enabled. do I need one of those to activate 
keychain on an IOS device?

> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Hi, When you go to a website where keychain has your log in credentials 
> saved, you will see it ask you if you want to log into the website using the 
> username or email you provided then next to that you will get a button that 
> says log in with and it will say your username. double tap on that button and 
> you will have to authenticate with FaceID or Touch ID.
> 
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>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> if keychain is turned on, how does it look on an ios device, say, a phone? 
>> I'm familiar with how to use command-shift-a to fill in username and 
>> password on a Mac but I don't know what to look for on my phone. I'm not 
>> even sure if it's turned on or not although I know I tried to turn it on 
>> once.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
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Re: Keychain

2020-02-28 Thread Maria Reyes
Hi, When you go to a website where keychain has your log in credentials saved, 
you will see it ask you if you want to log into the website using the username 
or email you provided then next to that you will get a button that says log in 
with and it will say your username. double tap on that button and you will have 
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> On Feb 28, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> if keychain is turned on, how does it look on an ios device, say, a phone? 
> I'm familiar with how to use command-shift-a to fill in username and password 
> on a Mac but I don't know what to look for on my phone. I'm not even sure if 
> it's turned on or not although I know I tried to turn it on once.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
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Keychain

2020-02-28 Thread Lorie McCloud
if keychain is turned on, how does it look on an ios device, say, a phone? I'm 
familiar with how to use command-shift-a to fill in username and password on a 
Mac but I don't know what to look for on my phone. I'm not even sure if it's 
turned on or not although I know I tried to turn it on once.

thanks.
Lorie


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Re: keychain

2019-12-28 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Creating a six digit pass-code is accomplished in Settings, Face-ID & 
Pass-Code.  Beyond that, just try to enable it and it will prompt you for any 
further needs.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Dec 27, 2019, at 15:16, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I'd like to be able to use keychain on my phone. this seems to require a 6 
digit code I haven't set up or else approving it from my Mac which now that I'm 
home should be simple enough. how do I perform this task?

thanks.
Lorie

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keychain

2019-12-27 Thread Lorie McCloud
I'd like to be able to use keychain on my phone. this seems to require a 6 
digit code I haven't set up or else approving it from my Mac which now that I'm 
home should be simple enough. how do I perform this task?

thanks.
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Re: Looking for suggestions on how to retrieve Wi-Fi information from my computers keychain?

2019-12-27 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

On the Mac, from the Finder, go to the Utilities folder, open the Keychain 
Access app.  Select iCloud from the Keychains table, then Passwords from the 
Categories table.  Scroll through the list of items to find the entry for the 
network.  Press cmd-i or VO-space on the Info button in the Toolbar to open the 
Info window.  Check the box to show the password and enter your computer 
password to allow access.  The password will be readable now.

Yes, if downloading items through Safari, you can set a different location for 
downloads.  This is accomplished in Safari Prefs, in the General pane.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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On Dec 26, 2019, at 11:12, maurice.mines  wrote:

Good morning everyone, I have an interesting and perplexing problem. I am 
visiting family, but I need the password from the keychain file in order to 
connect a notetaker directly to Wi-Fi. This is so that I can download 
newspapers from NFB Newsline. And I think it would be easier to do it directly 
to where I’m going to be reading them. It should be mentioned here that I’m 
deaf blind. So listening to it is certainly not an option especially when I 
have three very young and very loud nieces. So using hearing aids is going to 
be a challenge. But rather we did in braille.

Back to my original question, how to get this information so that I can put it 
into the note taker. I guess the alternative is to come up with a directory 
that I can download the newspapers into that is separate from the downloads 
directory then copy the contents of that directory after I’ve downloaded the 
newspapers into this directory then copy that to a USB drive and then copy it 
to the notetaker. So can I specify a directory other than downloads? I hope 
this is enough information for someone to be able to come up with some 
suggestions?

Finally, a completely different problem I’ve been told by sighted people that 
when I create a document in word for the back the document comes out in 
braille. And of course we all know cited folks most of them unless they’re a 
trained TBI don’t know how to read braille what I have to do is translate the 
document. I don’t possess of real printers on trying to figure out why it’s 
doing this. Any thoughts? Of course I can read the document using the attached 
Braille Display. I think that’s it for me, be well everyone and I look forward 
to those responses. PS I dictated this to my computer in a very quiet place but 
hopefully the email is readable? Let me know if it’s not readable.

Sincerely Maurice Mines.

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Looking for suggestions on how to retrieve Wi-Fi information from my computers keychain?

2019-12-26 Thread maurice.mines
Good morning everyone, I have an interesting and perplexing problem. I 
am visiting family, but I need the password from the keychain file in 
order to connect a notetaker directly to Wi-Fi. This is so that I can 
download newspapers from NFB Newsline. And I think it would be easier to 
do it directly to where I’m going to be reading them. It should be 
mentioned here that I’m deaf blind. So listening to it is certainly 
not an option especially when I have three very young and very loud 
nieces. So using hearing aids is going to be a challenge. But rather we 
did in braille.


Back to my original question, how to get this information so that I can 
put it into the note taker. I guess the alternative is to come up with a 
directory that I can download the newspapers into that is separate from 
the downloads directory then copy the contents of that directory after 
I’ve downloaded the newspapers into this directory then copy that to a 
USB drive and then copy it to the notetaker. So can I specify a 
directory other than downloads? I hope this is enough information for 
someone to be able to come up with some suggestions?


Finally, a completely different problem I’ve been told by sighted 
people that when I create a document in word for the back the document 
comes out in braille. And of course we all know cited folks most of them 
unless they’re a trained TBI don’t know how to read braille what I 
have to do is translate the document. I don’t possess of real printers 
on trying to figure out why it’s doing this. Any thoughts? Of course I 
can read the document using the attached Braille Display. I think 
that’s it for me, be well everyone and I look forward to those 
responses. PS I dictated this to my computer in a very quiet place but 
hopefully the email is readable? Let me know if it’s not readable.


Sincerely Maurice Mines.

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Keychain automatically logging in

2019-04-06 Thread Agent086b
Hi all,
can I stop Keychain logging in unless I enter the  Keychain password. When 
using Lastpass I must use face id on the phone or enter the password on the 
Mac. I would like to do this with Keychain also.
Thanks for any help.
Max.

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Re: Keychain Question

2019-02-12 Thread N2KPV
Thanks Jonathan , I will give it  a try .

On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 5:18:49 PM UTC-5, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
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> Key chain is a hard beast to know what will and won’t work. I was having 
> issues on one of my computers and had to start from scratch with the 
> keychain. I would suggest creating a new keychain on the older system and 
> then copying over the passwords you don’t want to lose to the new keychain. 
> When you do this you will be prompted for the keychain password in that 
> prompt there is a check box saying allow this for the rest of this 
> operation or something like that. If you don’t click this check box, then 
> every password that you copy will prompt you for the keychain password. 
>
> I did have issues starting sometime in Winter of last year where overtime 
> my Mac went to sleep I had to re-enter my  Mail passwords  before I could 
> get any new mail. 
>
> On Feb 12, 2019, at 4:00 PM, N2KPV > 
> wrote:
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> Hi all , I have been using my newer  iMac  as my main computer for awhile 
> now . I recently turned on Keychain  and it works well . I have not turned 
> it on on my late 2011 Macbook Pro which is my backup computer .  My 
> question is if not all of my passwords are up to date on my older MacBook 
>  will this cause any issues ?  Or should I update the old passwords first 
> before I turn on Keychain on the older mac .  Hopefully this makes sense .
>
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Re: Keychain Question

2019-02-12 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Key chain is a hard beast to know what will and won’t work. I was having issues 
on one of my computers and had to start from scratch with the keychain. I would 
suggest creating a new keychain on the older system and then copying over the 
passwords you don’t want to lose to the new keychain. When you do this you will 
be prompted for the keychain password in that prompt there is a check box 
saying allow this for the rest of this operation or something like that. If you 
don’t click this check box, then every password that you copy will prompt you 
for the keychain password. 

I did have issues starting sometime in Winter of last year where overtime my 
Mac went to sleep I had to re-enter my  Mail passwords  before I could get any 
new mail. 

> On Feb 12, 2019, at 4:00 PM, N2KPV  wrote:
> 
> Hi all , I have been using my newer  iMac  as my main computer for awhile now 
> . I recently turned on Keychain  and it works well . I have not turned it on 
> on my late 2011 Macbook Pro which is my backup computer .  My question is if 
> not all of my passwords are up to date on my older MacBook  will this cause 
> any issues ?  Or should I update the old passwords first before I turn on 
> Keychain on the older mac .  Hopefully this makes sense .
> 
> Thanx , Ben C. 
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Keychain Question

2019-02-12 Thread N2KPV
Hi all , I have been using my newer  iMac  as my main computer for awhile 
now . I recently turned on Keychain  and it works well . I have not turned 
it on on my late 2011 Macbook Pro which is my backup computer .  My 
question is if not all of my passwords are up to date on my older MacBook 
 will this cause any issues ?  Or should I update the old passwords first 
before I turn on Keychain on the older mac .  Hopefully this makes sense .

Thanx , Ben C. 

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KeySteal: huge macOS vulnerability can be exploited to reveal keychain passwords

2019-02-06 Thread dan d.


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Frequently asked questions about iCloud Keychain - Apple Support

2018-05-23 Thread M. Taylor
Frequently asked questions about iCloud Keychain
Learn more about iCloud Keychain.
What is iCloud Keychain?
iCloud Keychain keeps your Safari website usernames and passwords, credit card 
information, and Wi-Fi network information up to date across all of your 
approved devices that are using iOS 7.0.3 or later or OS X Mavericks 10.9 or 
later.
iCloud Keychain can also keep the accounts you use in Mail, Contacts, Calendar, 
and Messages up to date across all of your Mac computers. And when you sign in 
to Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, and your other Internet accounts, iCloud 
automatically adds your usernames and passwords to all of your devices.
Learn about iCloud Keychain availability by country or region.
How does iCloud Keychain protect my information?
iCloud Keychain keeps the passwords and credit card information that you save 
up to date only on the devices that you approve. When you turn on iCloud 
Keychain on an additional device, your other devices that use iCloud Keychain 
receive a notification requesting approval for the additional device. After you 
approve the additional device, your iCloud Keychain automatically begins 
updating on that device.
iCloud Keychain is protected with industry-standard encryption techniques on 
all of your devices, both in transit and in the cloud.
If you use two-factor authentication, your device is trusted when you sign in. 
In most cases, you won’t need to approve your device separately to turn on 
iCloud Keychain. Depending on your account and device setup, you might need to 
enter your iCloud security code, enter the passcode that you use to unlock one 
of your other devices, or approve from another device.
How do I set up iCloud Keychain?
After you update your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch to the latest iOS, the setup 
assistant will ask you to set up iCloud Keychain. If you skipped this step and 
want to set up iCloud Keychain now, follow these steps:
On your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with iOS 10.3 or later:
1.  Tap Settings > [your name] > iCloud.
o   If you're using iOS 10.2 or earlier, tap Settings > iCloud.
2.  Tap Keychain and slide to turn on iCloud Keychain.
3.  Enter your Apple ID password.
4.  Follow the onscreen instructions.
On your Mac with OS X Mavericks 10.9 and later:
1.  Choose Apple () menu > System Preferences, then click iCloud.
2.  Select Keychain. If you want to, you can set a passcode to unlock your 
screen after sleep or after the screen saver begins.
3.  Enter your Apple ID and password.
4.  Follow the onscreen instructions.
Set up iCloud Keychain for each device that you want to add. When you turn on 
iCloud Keychain on an additional device, your other devices that use iCloud 
Keychain receive a notification requesting approval for the additional device. 
After you approve the additional device, your iCloud Keychain automatically 
begins updating on that device.
If you have two-factor authentication and you use iCloud Keychain, you need to 
use iOS 9 or later on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch, and OS X El Capitan or 
later on your Mac. With two-factor authentication, you can turn on iCloud 
Keychain without approval from another device.
What is the iCloud Security Code?
When you set up iCloud Keychain, you can create an iCloud Security Code. It can 
be a six-digit code, a complex alphanumeric code, or we can generate a random 
code for you. The iCloud Security Code is used to authorize additional devices 
to use your iCloud Keychain. It's also used to verify your identity so that you 
can perform other iCloud Keychain actions, such as recovering your iCloud 
Keychain if you lose all of your devices.
How do I set up iCloud Keychain on a new device without another device to 
approve from?
If you can't access any of your other devices that are using iCloud Keychain, 
you can still set up iCloud Keychain on another device if you have these items:
•   Your iCloud Security Code
•   The device that is using the SMS-capable phone number you provided when 
you first set up iCloud Keychain. A verification code is sent via SMS to this 
phone number. If you can't access this number, contact Apple Support, who can 
verify your identity, so that you can complete setup on your new device.
After you complete the setup, your iCloud Keychain will be pushed from the 
cloud to the new device.
If you use two-factor authentication with your Apple ID, enter your password 
and the six-digit verification code that's automatically displayed on your 
trusted devices and authorize the new device. Then turn on iCloud Keychain.
Can Apple recover my iCloud Security Code?
No. If you enter your iCloud Security Code incorrectly too many times, you 
can't use that iCloud Keychain. You can contact Apple Support, who can help 
verify your identity so that you can try to enter your iCloud Security Code 
again. After a number of incorrect attempts, your iCloud Keychain is removed 
from Apple's servers, and

Re: Updating iCloud Keychain

2018-05-18 Thread E.T.

   That is too easy. I will certainly do it. Thanks Tim.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/17/2018 8:09 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

The easiest way to do this is to just enter the new password in the 
field on apple.com <http://apple.com>, and Safari will ask if you'd like 
to update it.  Press on the Update button and it will be updated.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 16, 2018, at 16:30, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:


   Today I signed out and back in on my iPhone. In the process I found a 
password autofill option. That gave me apple,com among other accounts. 
In looking at apple,com  I discovered it had an old password. How can I 
update that in Keychain Access?


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Re: Updating iCloud Keychain

2018-05-17 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

The easiest way to do this is to just enter the new password in the field on 
apple.com, and Safari will ask if you'd like to update it.  Press on the Update 
button and it will be updated.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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  Today I signed out and back in on my iPhone. In the process I found a 
password autofill option. That gave me apple,com among other accounts. In 
looking at apple,com  I discovered it had an old password. How can I update 
that in Keychain Access?

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Updating iCloud Keychain

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   Today I signed out and back in on my iPhone. In the process I found 
a password autofill option. That gave me apple,com among other accounts. 
In looking at apple,com  I discovered it had an old password. How can I 
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Re: Keychain

2018-01-17 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Oops. My apologies, everyone. This message was accidently posted to the
wrong thread. Sorry about that!

Janina


'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
> Well, i should probably add that I've never called them myself. Myh
> knowledge of them is based on reports from Microsoft staff participating
> in the W3C Working Group I chair--that's the good authority to which I
> refer.
> 
> I do not expect to call them. That's because I purchased an OEM license
> of Windows 10. While, like so many, I didn't stop to read all the terms,
> it's my understanding that OEM licenses do not include technical
> support. Ergo, I don't expect to be calling them over any issue I may
> encounter. That was my decision to save $48 on the license.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Alex Hall writes:
> > I read the original message as talking about the Apple service called 
> > Keychain. I hope I interpreted things correctly.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > > On Jan 15, 2018, at 03:44, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Ok, this is getting confusing,
> > >  
> > > I take it that there is an app called keychain
> > >  
> > > Because the mac os and IOS platform have a built in feature called the 
> > > keychain.
> > >  
> > >  
> > > Which stores passwords and certs etc
> > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> > > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> > > Sent: Monday, 15 January 2018 2:09 PM
> > > To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Keychain
> > >  
> > > I use Keychain, but I use it to store passwords I come up with. It 
> > > offers, but I don't let it generate passwords for me. A few things about 
> > > Keychain:
> > >  
> > > * It's not for documents, notes, or anything else. It stores secure 
> > > information, like credit card details or passwords, for auto-fill in 
> > > websites and apps. To store notes, you'd use the Notes app, optionally 
> > > password-protecting them.
> > >  
> > > * Keychain is only available for Apple products. The moment you want to 
> > > auto-fill your password from Keychain on Windows or Android, you're out 
> > > of luck. This isn't a problem if you live in Apple World as my family 
> > > does, but it's worth keeping in mind and could be a show-stopper for 
> > > plenty of users.
> > >  
> > > * It can be a little complex to set up, using a different code to enable 
> > > on macOS and doing some other funny things. It's not bad, but it's not a 
> > > simple checkbox either.
> > >  
> > > * Oddly, it will auto-fill at your request. That is, you can use it with 
> > > no additional security. On iOS, for instance, you can let it fill in a 
> > > card or password, no Touch ID necessary. Of course, your device has to be 
> > > unlocked, but it's still worth remembering that anyone can log in or fill 
> > > in cards if they have your unlocked device. They can't see passwords, and 
> > > auto-filled cards that need a security code still make you enter the code.
> > >  
> > > That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Alex Hall
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Jan 14, 2018, at 20:01, Agent086b <agent0...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> > >  
> > > Hi all,
> > > I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
> > > passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they 
> > > were purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per 
> > > year. That is not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 
> > > 70c  & 80c US. Are people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents 
> > > or as Lastpas calls them secure notes. In notes I store passwords for 
> > > Apps and things like safe combination for a safe and other things that if 
> > > I have died my wife can find them. 
> > > Thanks as always for any help.
> > > Max.
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Re: Keychain

2018-01-17 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Well, i should probably add that I've never called them myself. Myh
knowledge of them is based on reports from Microsoft staff participating
in the W3C Working Group I chair--that's the good authority to which I
refer.

I do not expect to call them. That's because I purchased an OEM license
of Windows 10. While, like so many, I didn't stop to read all the terms,
it's my understanding that OEM licenses do not include technical
support. Ergo, I don't expect to be calling them over any issue I may
encounter. That was my decision to save $48 on the license.

Janina

Alex Hall writes:
> I read the original message as talking about the Apple service called 
> Keychain. I hope I interpreted things correctly.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jan 15, 2018, at 03:44, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Ok, this is getting confusing,
> >  
> > I take it that there is an app called keychain
> >  
> > Because the mac os and IOS platform have a built in feature called the 
> > keychain.
> >  
> >  
> > Which stores passwords and certs etc
> > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> > Sent: Monday, 15 January 2018 2:09 PM
> > To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: Keychain
> >  
> > I use Keychain, but I use it to store passwords I come up with. It offers, 
> > but I don't let it generate passwords for me. A few things about Keychain:
> >  
> > * It's not for documents, notes, or anything else. It stores secure 
> > information, like credit card details or passwords, for auto-fill in 
> > websites and apps. To store notes, you'd use the Notes app, optionally 
> > password-protecting them.
> >  
> > * Keychain is only available for Apple products. The moment you want to 
> > auto-fill your password from Keychain on Windows or Android, you're out of 
> > luck. This isn't a problem if you live in Apple World as my family does, 
> > but it's worth keeping in mind and could be a show-stopper for plenty of 
> > users.
> >  
> > * It can be a little complex to set up, using a different code to enable on 
> > macOS and doing some other funny things. It's not bad, but it's not a 
> > simple checkbox either.
> >  
> > * Oddly, it will auto-fill at your request. That is, you can use it with no 
> > additional security. On iOS, for instance, you can let it fill in a card or 
> > password, no Touch ID necessary. Of course, your device has to be unlocked, 
> > but it's still worth remembering that anyone can log in or fill in cards if 
> > they have your unlocked device. They can't see passwords, and auto-filled 
> > cards that need a security code still make you enter the code.
> >  
> > That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
> > 
> > --
> > Alex Hall
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > On Jan 14, 2018, at 20:01, Agent086b <agent0...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> >  
> > Hi all,
> > I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
> > passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
> > purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. 
> > That is not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c 
> > US. Are people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas 
> > calls them secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things 
> > like safe combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my 
> > wife can find them. 
> > Thanks as always for any help.
> > Max.
> > 
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Re: Keychain

2018-01-15 Thread Agent086b
Hi,
you are correct. I was talking about the service  Apple Keychain.
Max.

> On 16 Jan 2018, at 12:37 am, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I read the original message as talking about the Apple service called 
> Keychain. I hope I interpreted things correctly.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 15, 2018, at 03:44, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Ok, this is getting confusing,
>>  
>> I take it that there is an app called keychain
>>  
>> Because the mac os and IOS platform have a built in feature called the 
>> keychain.
>>  
>>  
>> Which stores passwords and certs etc
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Monday, 15 January 2018 2:09 PM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> Subject: Re: Keychain
>>  
>> I use Keychain, but I use it to store passwords I come up with. It offers, 
>> but I don't let it generate passwords for me. A few things about Keychain:
>>  
>> * It's not for documents, notes, or anything else. It stores secure 
>> information, like credit card details or passwords, for auto-fill in 
>> websites and apps. To store notes, you'd use the Notes app, optionally 
>> password-protecting them.
>>  
>> * Keychain is only available for Apple products. The moment you want to 
>> auto-fill your password from Keychain on Windows or Android, you're out of 
>> luck. This isn't a problem if you live in Apple World as my family does, but 
>> it's worth keeping in mind and could be a show-stopper for plenty of users.
>>  
>> * It can be a little complex to set up, using a different code to enable on 
>> macOS and doing some other funny things. It's not bad, but it's not a simple 
>> checkbox either.
>>  
>> * Oddly, it will auto-fill at your request. That is, you can use it with no 
>> additional security. On iOS, for instance, you can let it fill in a card or 
>> password, no Touch ID necessary. Of course, your device has to be unlocked, 
>> but it's still worth remembering that anyone can log in or fill in cards if 
>> they have your unlocked device. They can't see passwords, and auto-filled 
>> cards that need a security code still make you enter the code.
>>  
>> That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
>> 
>> --
>> Alex Hall
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 20:01, Agent086b <agent0...@internode.on.net 
>> <mailto:agent0...@internode.on.net>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi all,
>> I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
>> passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
>> purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That 
>> is not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. 
>> Are people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas 
>> calls them secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like 
>> safe combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can 
>> find them. 
>> Thanks as always for any help.
>> Max.
>> 
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Re: Keychain

2018-01-15 Thread Alex Hall
I read the original message as talking about the Apple service called Keychain. 
I hope I interpreted things correctly.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 15, 2018, at 03:44, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Ok, this is getting confusing,
>  
> I take it that there is an app called keychain
>  
> Because the mac os and IOS platform have a built in feature called the 
> keychain.
>  
>  
> Which stores passwords and certs etc
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Monday, 15 January 2018 2:09 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Keychain
>  
> I use Keychain, but I use it to store passwords I come up with. It offers, 
> but I don't let it generate passwords for me. A few things about Keychain:
>  
> * It's not for documents, notes, or anything else. It stores secure 
> information, like credit card details or passwords, for auto-fill in websites 
> and apps. To store notes, you'd use the Notes app, optionally 
> password-protecting them.
>  
> * Keychain is only available for Apple products. The moment you want to 
> auto-fill your password from Keychain on Windows or Android, you're out of 
> luck. This isn't a problem if you live in Apple World as my family does, but 
> it's worth keeping in mind and could be a show-stopper for plenty of users.
>  
> * It can be a little complex to set up, using a different code to enable on 
> macOS and doing some other funny things. It's not bad, but it's not a simple 
> checkbox either.
>  
> * Oddly, it will auto-fill at your request. That is, you can use it with no 
> additional security. On iOS, for instance, you can let it fill in a card or 
> password, no Touch ID necessary. Of course, your device has to be unlocked, 
> but it's still worth remembering that anyone can log in or fill in cards if 
> they have your unlocked device. They can't see passwords, and auto-filled 
> cards that need a security code still make you enter the code.
>  
> That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 20:01, Agent086b <agent0...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
> passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
> purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That 
> is not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. 
> Are people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas calls 
> them secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like safe 
> combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can find 
> them. 
> Thanks as always for any help.
> Max.
> 
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Re: Keychain

2018-01-15 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
I'm also in the process of leaving Last Pass.

I'm currently working on switching to Pass:

https://www.passwordstore.org/


I'm currently at a threshold problem in this process--I need to update
my gpg keys, and that's become an issue for reasons I won't bore you
with.

However, I'm attacted to Pass because:

*   It offers clients for all my OS platforms and smart devices,
*   including integration with most of my browsers

*   If a browser I use doesn't have a Pass plugin, I can use the
*   cliboard easily

*   I really, really like the organizational structure of Pass,
*   where every site's data is ina single file unlockable by your
*   gpg key. That makes Pass highly portable, fully accessible, and
*   quite secure, imo.

Just my contribution to the question. The app you're looking at may be
an excellent app. I've no knowledge of that.

Janina

Agent086b writes:
> Hi all,
> I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
> passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
> purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That 
> is not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. 
> Are people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas calls 
> them secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like safe 
> combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can find 
> them. 
> Thanks as always for any help.
> Max.
> 
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RE: Keychain

2018-01-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
Ok, this is getting confusing,

I take it that there is an app called keychain

Because the mac os and IOS platform have a built in feature called the keychain.


Which stores passwords and certs etc
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On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Monday, 15 January 2018 2:09 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Keychain

I use Keychain, but I use it to store passwords I come up with. It offers, but 
I don't let it generate passwords for me. A few things about Keychain:

* It's not for documents, notes, or anything else. It stores secure 
information, like credit card details or passwords, for auto-fill in websites 
and apps. To store notes, you'd use the Notes app, optionally 
password-protecting them.

* Keychain is only available for Apple products. The moment you want to 
auto-fill your password from Keychain on Windows or Android, you're out of 
luck. This isn't a problem if you live in Apple World as my family does, but 
it's worth keeping in mind and could be a show-stopper for plenty of users.

* It can be a little complex to set up, using a different code to enable on 
macOS and doing some other funny things. It's not bad, but it's not a simple 
checkbox either.

* Oddly, it will auto-fill at your request. That is, you can use it with no 
additional security. On iOS, for instance, you can let it fill in a card or 
password, no Touch ID necessary. Of course, your device has to be unlocked, but 
it's still worth remembering that anyone can log in or fill in cards if they 
have your unlocked device. They can't see passwords, and auto-filled cards that 
need a security code still make you enter the code.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

--
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On Jan 14, 2018, at 20:01, Agent086b 
<agent0...@internode.on.net<mailto:agent0...@internode.on.net>> wrote:

Hi all,
I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That is 
not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. Are 
people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas calls them 
secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like safe 
combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can find 
them.
Thanks as always for any help.
Max.

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RE: Keychain

2018-01-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Thomas,

 The key chain in the mac / IOS platforms is really limited to the password and 
related security features of the device,

 Certificates etc.

However with the new file app on the iPhone you may get the best of both worlds 
with secure document management but I've not really looked in to it yet do use 
the key chain on iphone and mac book air.

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Subject: Keychain

Hi all,
I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That is 
not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. Are 
people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas calls them 
secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like safe 
combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can find 
them. 
Thanks as always for any help.
Max.

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Re: Keychain

2018-01-14 Thread Agent086b
Thanks for the reply.
The only devices at this time to access Keychain would be Apple devices. I am 
not so sure about storing the other things in notes. I will have to think about 
this carefully.
Max.
> On 15 Jan 2018, at 12:09 pm, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I use Keychain, but I use it to store passwords I come up with. It offers, 
> but I don't let it generate passwords for me. A few things about Keychain:
> 
> * It's not for documents, notes, or anything else. It stores secure 
> information, like credit card details or passwords, for auto-fill in websites 
> and apps. To store notes, you'd use the Notes app, optionally 
> password-protecting them.
> 
> * Keychain is only available for Apple products. The moment you want to 
> auto-fill your password from Keychain on Windows or Android, you're out of 
> luck. This isn't a problem if you live in Apple World as my family does, but 
> it's worth keeping in mind and could be a show-stopper for plenty of users.
> 
> * It can be a little complex to set up, using a different code to enable on 
> macOS and doing some other funny things. It's not bad, but it's not a simple 
> checkbox either.
> 
> * Oddly, it will auto-fill at your request. That is, you can use it with no 
> additional security. On iOS, for instance, you can let it fill in a card or 
> password, no Touch ID necessary. Of course, your device has to be unlocked, 
> but it's still worth remembering that anyone can log in or fill in cards if 
> they have your unlocked device. They can't see passwords, and auto-filled 
> cards that need a security code still make you enter the code.
> 
> That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
> 
> --
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> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 20:01, Agent086b <agent0...@internode.on.net 
>> <mailto:agent0...@internode.on.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
>> passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
>> purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That 
>> is not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. 
>> Are people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas 
>> calls them secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like 
>> safe combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can 
>> find them. 
>> Thanks as always for any help.
>> Max.
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Re: Keychain

2018-01-14 Thread E.T.

   1Password might be an option. Its cross platform friendly.

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On 1/14/2018 5:01 PM, Agent086b wrote:

Hi all,
I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my passwords 
etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were purchased by Log 
Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That is not much except the 
Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. Are people using Keychain? 
if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas calls them secure notes. In notes I 
store passwords for Apps and things like safe combination for a safe and other 
things that if I have died my wife can find them.
Thanks as always for any help.
Max.



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Re: Keychain

2018-01-14 Thread Alex Hall
I use Keychain, but I use it to store passwords I come up with. It offers, but 
I don't let it generate passwords for me. A few things about Keychain:

* It's not for documents, notes, or anything else. It stores secure 
information, like credit card details or passwords, for auto-fill in websites 
and apps. To store notes, you'd use the Notes app, optionally 
password-protecting them.

* Keychain is only available for Apple products. The moment you want to 
auto-fill your password from Keychain on Windows or Android, you're out of 
luck. This isn't a problem if you live in Apple World as my family does, but 
it's worth keeping in mind and could be a show-stopper for plenty of users.

* It can be a little complex to set up, using a different code to enable on 
macOS and doing some other funny things. It's not bad, but it's not a simple 
checkbox either.

* Oddly, it will auto-fill at your request. That is, you can use it with no 
additional security. On iOS, for instance, you can let it fill in a card or 
password, no Touch ID necessary. Of course, your device has to be unlocked, but 
it's still worth remembering that anyone can log in or fill in cards if they 
have your unlocked device. They can't see passwords, and auto-filled cards that 
need a security code still make you enter the code.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

--
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> On Jan 14, 2018, at 20:01, Agent086b <agent0...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
> passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
> purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That 
> is not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. 
> Are people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas calls 
> them secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like safe 
> combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can find 
> them. 
> Thanks as always for any help.
> Max.
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Keychain

2018-01-14 Thread Agent086b
Hi all,
I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That is 
not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. Are 
people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas calls them 
secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like safe 
combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can find 
them. 
Thanks as always for any help.
Max.

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Major macOS (incl. High Sierra) Keychain password extraction vulnerability to be addressed by Apple in update [Video]

2017-09-26 Thread M. Taylor
9to5Mac - Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 5:07 AM
Major macOS (incl. High Sierra) Keychain password extraction vulnerability
to be addressed by Apple in update [Video]
 
A macOS vulnerability discovered by security researcher Patrick Wardle
allows any app - signed or unsigned - to extract plain text passwords from
Keychain. Wardle demonstrated the exploit with a proof of concept app, seen
in the video below.
The vulnerability is a huge one, because Keychain data is secured by 256-bit
AES encryption, which should make it virtually uncrackable - and because the
bug affects all versions of macOS, including High Sierra .

What is supposed to happen is that only the app authorized to access a
particular password can decrypt it. But Wardle demonstrated his app was able
to extract and decrypt passwords for Twitter, Facebook, and Bank of America.
The app is able to do this without any user intervention.
The demonstration video shows it running in an unsigned app, which are
blocked by default in macOS, but Wardle says this was only to demonstrate
how low the security bar is set. It works equally well in signed apps.
As a responsible researcher, Wardle reported the vulnerability to Apple on
September 7 and will not disclose the method used until Apple has patched
it. He told Gizmodo that the company is likely to do so soon.
He also says that this is not a reason to hold off on upgrading to High
Sierra: it's not a newly-introduced bug.
I think everyone should update. There's a lot of good built-in security
features. This attack works on older versions of macOS as well. There's no
reason for people not to upgrade.
Check out the video demo below.
Patrick Wardle is a former NSA staffer who last year demonstrated Mac
malware that could tap into live webcam and microphone feeds. He also
discovered Mac malware in the wild that allowed access to webcam photos,
screenshots and key-logging, and a separate exploit that would let someone
with local access to a Mac escalate their privileges to root.
[embedded content]
 
 Original Article At:
https://9to5mac.com/2017/09/26/macos-keychain-vulnerability/

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RE: Keychain, what is it and what does it do?

2017-09-22 Thread Simon Fogarty
It's a secure location on your machine that stores your devices or iCloud 
related passwords and certificates and other security related things on your 
computer,

It's a good thing to ensure it's being used.

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Subject: Keychain, what is it and what does it do?

Hi,
Could someone please explain to me simply what keychain is and what it does?
Thanks,
Peace,  
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Re: Keychain, what is it and what does it do?

2017-09-21 Thread E.T.

Stacey,
   This will explain it all for you.

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On 9/21/2017 12:49 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

Hi,
Could someone please explain to me simply what keychain is and what it does?
Thanks,
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Keychain, what is it and what does it do?

2017-09-21 Thread Stacey Robinson
Hi,
Could someone please explain to me simply what keychain is and what it does?
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Re: Keychain issues

2017-06-21 Thread Jenine Stanley
Thanks Robert, 

I’ll also look under Safari preferences for this password.
> On Jun 20, 2017, at 8:10 PM, Robert Carter <nc5rn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> By default, the keychain password is the same password that you use to unlock 
> your Mac.
> 
> Robert Carter
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 6:46 PM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Can someone explain to me how to retrieve a password stored in Keychain? I 
>> don’t recall ever setting a master Keychain password, which it asks for on 
>> my Mac when trying to retrieve one. This is a web site log in that I had 
>> automatically chosen by Safari rather than trying to remember one. Now I 
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Re: Keychain issues

2017-06-20 Thread John Panarese
   Also, Safari login info can usually be found in Safari preferences. If you 
open Safari, choose preferences and then passwords. You should see a list of 
all of your logins and the passwords. You might have to authenticate with your 
account password to see the actual passwords. 

   In other words, you don't need to use Keychain Access to see Safari 
passwords, but as Dr. Carter indicated, the keychain password should be the 
same as your account password unless you reset your account password.


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> On Jun 20, 2017, at 8:10 PM, Robert Carter <nc5rn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> By default, the keychain password is the same password that you use to unlock 
> your Mac.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 6:46 PM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Can someone explain to me how to retrieve a password stored in Keychain? I 
>> don’t recall ever setting a master Keychain password, which it asks for on 
>> my Mac when trying to retrieve one. This is a web site log in that I had 
>> automatically chosen by Safari rather than trying to remember one. Now I 
>> need said password for another device, my iPhone on a 3rd party app where it 
>> can’t just be filled in apparently. 
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Re: Keychain issues

2017-06-20 Thread Robert Carter
Hi,

By default, the keychain password is the same password that you use to unlock 
your Mac.

Robert Carter



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 6:46 PM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Can someone explain to me how to retrieve a password stored in Keychain? I 
> don’t recall ever setting a master Keychain password, which it asks for on my 
> Mac when trying to retrieve one. This is a web site log in that I had 
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Keychain issues

2017-06-20 Thread Jenine Stanley
Can someone explain to me how to retrieve a password stored in Keychain? I 
don’t recall ever setting a master Keychain password, which it asks for on my 
Mac when trying to retrieve one. This is a web site log in that I had 
automatically chosen by Safari rather than trying to remember one. Now I need 
said password for another device, my iPhone on a 3rd party app where it can’t 
just be filled in apparently. 

Help!

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Re: Keychain and passwords.

2016-09-28 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

That wouldn't hurt.  Probably is a good idea anytime you're going to do 
something that could have you lose data.

Later...

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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 28, 2016, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:

Hi!
So this means i should do an encrypted backup on my iphone first?
Thanks.
/A
> 27 sep. 2016 kl. 19:52 skrev Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com>:
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> Hi,
> 
> Yes, they should be.  Although, "should" is my favourite word I use when 
> helping people with tech issues.
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> Later...
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> On Sep 27, 2016, at 09:36, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
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> Hi!
> If i reset my Iphones network settings and then connect it to my Wifi will 
> all network passwords be restored if i have Keychain turned on?
> Thanks.
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Re: Keychain and passwords.

2016-09-28 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
So this means i should do an encrypted backup on my iphone first?
Thanks.
/A
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> Hi,
> 
> Yes, they should be.  Although, "should" is my favourite word I use when 
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> 
> Later...
> 
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> 
> On Sep 27, 2016, at 09:36, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> If i reset my Iphones network settings and then connect it to my Wifi will 
> all network passwords be restored if i have Keychain turned on?
> Thanks.
> /A
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Re: Keychain and passwords.

2016-09-27 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Yes, they should be.  Although, "should" is my favourite word I use when 
helping people with tech issues.

Later...

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On Sep 27, 2016, at 09:36, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:

Hi!
If i reset my Iphones network settings and then connect it to my Wifi will all 
network passwords be restored if i have Keychain turned on?
Thanks.
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Keychain and passwords.

2016-09-27 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
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network passwords be restored if i have Keychain turned on?
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Re: iCloud Keychain

2016-09-23 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
Sorry, do the articles not match up with reality or with each other? I believe 
their feedback links at the bottom of each article.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 

> On Sep 22, 2016, at 4:43 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   Finally! I found the needed information online but as is happening more and 
> more, Apple support articles do not quite match up.
> 
>   But I finally was able to do it from my iPhone and now the Mac is happy. 
> Thanks for sticking with this.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
>> On 9/22/2016 1:35 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hmmm.  Is iCloud Keychain enabled at the moment, or disabled?
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Sep 22, 2016, at 14:13, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  When I do that I am placed on the iCloud Drive item. This happened every 
>> time when I tried to activate the Options button yesterday.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 9/22/2016 1:05 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> When you interact with the Services table, navigate down to Keychain,
>>> then interact again, there'll be an Options button.  Press on that and
>>> you should have the ability to change the code.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Sep 22, 2016, at 13:58, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tim,
>>> Signed out and closed System prefs then opened it and signed in again.
>>> Same thing happened except this time the dialog said incorrect code. I
>>> see no place to reset it.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>> 
>>>> On 9/20/2016 10:00 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, signing out then exiting System Preferences sounds like a good
>>>> thing to do.  It is good to quit System Prefs, then go back in to
>>>> re-sign into iCloud.  This allows for System Prefs to properly kill
>>>> processes before logging back in.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 10:36, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes indeed. I have been googling this too and come up with nothing
>>>> helpful. I cannot access the options if I cannot enable Keychain.
>>>> later I may sign out and back in and see if that changes anything.
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/20/2016 9:30 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> so, on your Mac, it is asking for a four digit code when you attempt
>>>>> to enable iCloud Keychain?  Hmmm.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 09:55, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim,
>>>>> I'm wondering now if I am mistaken here. When I try to enable
>>>>> Keychain, the dialog asks for iCloud security code and its a 4 digit
>>>>> code. This must not be the same thing as the one that requires 6 digits.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mu iPhone and iPad both do not have Keychain enabled.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9/20/2016 7:35 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I suggest that you then first turn iCloud Keychain off on your
>>>>>> iPhone.  It shouldn't require a code for that, just your Apple ID
>>>>>> credentials.  Now, try enabling it on your Mac.  If it is already
>>>>>> on, when you click on Options, a dialog s

Re: iCloud Keychain

2016-09-22 Thread E.T.
   Finally! I found the needed information online but as is happening 
more and more, Apple support articles do not quite match up.


   But I finally was able to do it from my iPhone and now the Mac is 
happy. Thanks for sticking with this.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/22/2016 1:35 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hmmm.  Is iCloud Keychain enabled at the moment, or disabled?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 22, 2016, at 14:13, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

  When I do that I am placed on the iCloud Drive item. This happened every time 
when I tried to activate the Options button yesterday.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/22/2016 1:05 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

When you interact with the Services table, navigate down to Keychain,
then interact again, there'll be an Options button.  Press on that and
you should have the ability to change the code.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 22, 2016, at 13:58, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Tim,
 Signed out and closed System prefs then opened it and signed in again.
Same thing happened except this time the dialog said incorrect code. I
see no place to reset it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>

On 9/20/2016 10:00 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Yes, signing out then exiting System Preferences sounds like a good
thing to do.  It is good to quit System Prefs, then go back in to
re-sign into iCloud.  This allows for System Prefs to properly kill
processes before logging back in.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 20, 2016, at 10:36, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Yes indeed. I have been googling this too and come up with nothing
helpful. I cannot access the options if I cannot enable Keychain.
later I may sign out and back in and see if that changes anything.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>

On 9/20/2016 9:30 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

so, on your Mac, it is asking for a four digit code when you attempt
to enable iCloud Keychain?  Hmmm.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 20, 2016, at 09:55, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Tim,
I'm wondering now if I am mistaken here. When I try to enable
Keychain, the dialog asks for iCloud security code and its a 4 digit
code. This must not be the same thing as the one that requires 6 digits.

Mu iPhone and iPad both do not have Keychain enabled.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/20/2016 7:35 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

I suggest that you then first turn iCloud Keychain off on your
iPhone.  It shouldn't require a code for that, just your Apple ID
credentials.  Now, try enabling it on your Mac.  If it is already
on, when you click on Options, a dialog should appear that gives you
the option to change your Security Code.  this needs to be a six
digit code.  It accepts numbers kind of like the pass-code on an
iPhone whereby you push a number and it pops over to the next
numeric field automatically.  You'll need to enter this code two
times, a phone number that accepts SMS messages, then enter your
Apple ID credentials to confirm the change.  This is to make sure
that a third party could not simply change that Security Code and
SMS number without knowing all your info.

Let me know how it goes.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 20, 2016, at 08:21, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Hi Tim,
At this point I am not sure I ever did enable Keychain. Working from
the Mac I cannot get past the dialog for the code. If I enter one
the iPhone gets a text with a verification code which I type in on
the Mac which then cycles back to requesting the security code. So I
get nowhere. On that dialog there is text that says Forgot code. Its
not a link or button.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/20/2016 7:06 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Just a quick clarification first.  There is usually no need to
enter the security code when choosing to approve the device from
another device.  For example, if I wished to enrol my iPhone to use
the iCloud Keychain, and if I'd already had it enabled on my Mac,
then I'd choose "Approve from another device", which in turn would
send a notification to all my devices that have iCloud Keychain
enabled.  I would accept it on my Mac, and would be asked to enter
my Apple ID password.  No Security Code needed.  If this is the
first device you're enrolling, then you'll need to enter a new
Security Code.

If you're unsure as to whether you've set it up initially on
anot

Re: iCloud Keychain

2016-09-22 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hmmm.  Is iCloud Keychain enabled at the moment, or disabled?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 22, 2016, at 14:13, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

  When I do that I am placed on the iCloud Drive item. This happened every time 
when I tried to activate the Options button yesterday.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/22/2016 1:05 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> When you interact with the Services table, navigate down to Keychain,
> then interact again, there'll be an Options button.  Press on that and
> you should have the ability to change the code.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 13:58, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
> 
> Tim,
>  Signed out and closed System prefs then opened it and signed in again.
> Same thing happened except this time the dialog said incorrect code. I
> see no place to reset it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
> 
> On 9/20/2016 10:00 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Yes, signing out then exiting System Preferences sounds like a good
>> thing to do.  It is good to quit System Prefs, then go back in to
>> re-sign into iCloud.  This allows for System Prefs to properly kill
>> processes before logging back in.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 10:36, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes indeed. I have been googling this too and come up with nothing
>> helpful. I cannot access the options if I cannot enable Keychain.
>> later I may sign out and back in and see if that changes anything.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>> 
>> On 9/20/2016 9:30 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> so, on your Mac, it is asking for a four digit code when you attempt
>>> to enable iCloud Keychain?  Hmmm.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 09:55, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tim,
>>> I'm wondering now if I am mistaken here. When I try to enable
>>> Keychain, the dialog asks for iCloud security code and its a 4 digit
>>> code. This must not be the same thing as the one that requires 6 digits.
>>> 
>>> Mu iPhone and iPad both do not have Keychain enabled.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 9/20/2016 7:35 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I suggest that you then first turn iCloud Keychain off on your
>>>> iPhone.  It shouldn't require a code for that, just your Apple ID
>>>> credentials.  Now, try enabling it on your Mac.  If it is already
>>>> on, when you click on Options, a dialog should appear that gives you
>>>> the option to change your Security Code.  this needs to be a six
>>>> digit code.  It accepts numbers kind of like the pass-code on an
>>>> iPhone whereby you push a number and it pops over to the next
>>>> numeric field automatically.  You'll need to enter this code two
>>>> times, a phone number that accepts SMS messages, then enter your
>>>> Apple ID credentials to confirm the change.  This is to make sure
>>>> that a third party could not simply change that Security Code and
>>>> SMS number without knowing all your info.
>>>> 
>>>> Let me know how it goes.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 08:21, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>> At this point I am not sure I ever did enable Keychain. Working from
>>>> the Mac I cannot get past the dialog for the code. If I enter one
>>>> the iPhone gets a text with a verification code which I type in on
>>>> the Mac which then cycles back to requesting the security code. So I
>>>> get nowhere. On that dialog there is text that says Forgot code. Its
>>>> not a link or button.

Re: iCloud Keychain

2016-09-22 Thread E.T.
   When I do that I am placed on the iCloud Drive item. This happened 
every time when I tried to activate the Options button yesterday.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/22/2016 1:05 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

When you interact with the Services table, navigate down to Keychain,
then interact again, there'll be an Options button.  Press on that and
you should have the ability to change the code.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 22, 2016, at 13:58, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Tim,
  Signed out and closed System prefs then opened it and signed in again.
Same thing happened except this time the dialog said incorrect code. I
see no place to reset it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>

On 9/20/2016 10:00 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Yes, signing out then exiting System Preferences sounds like a good
thing to do.  It is good to quit System Prefs, then go back in to
re-sign into iCloud.  This allows for System Prefs to properly kill
processes before logging back in.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 20, 2016, at 10:36, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

 Yes indeed. I have been googling this too and come up with nothing
helpful. I cannot access the options if I cannot enable Keychain.
later I may sign out and back in and see if that changes anything.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>

On 9/20/2016 9:30 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

so, on your Mac, it is asking for a four digit code when you attempt
to enable iCloud Keychain?  Hmmm.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 20, 2016, at 09:55, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Tim,
I'm wondering now if I am mistaken here. When I try to enable
Keychain, the dialog asks for iCloud security code and its a 4 digit
code. This must not be the same thing as the one that requires 6 digits.

Mu iPhone and iPad both do not have Keychain enabled.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/20/2016 7:35 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

I suggest that you then first turn iCloud Keychain off on your
iPhone.  It shouldn't require a code for that, just your Apple ID
credentials.  Now, try enabling it on your Mac.  If it is already
on, when you click on Options, a dialog should appear that gives you
the option to change your Security Code.  this needs to be a six
digit code.  It accepts numbers kind of like the pass-code on an
iPhone whereby you push a number and it pops over to the next
numeric field automatically.  You'll need to enter this code two
times, a phone number that accepts SMS messages, then enter your
Apple ID credentials to confirm the change.  This is to make sure
that a third party could not simply change that Security Code and
SMS number without knowing all your info.

Let me know how it goes.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 20, 2016, at 08:21, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Hi Tim,
At this point I am not sure I ever did enable Keychain. Working from
the Mac I cannot get past the dialog for the code. If I enter one
the iPhone gets a text with a verification code which I type in on
the Mac which then cycles back to requesting the security code. So I
get nowhere. On that dialog there is text that says Forgot code. Its
not a link or button.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/20/2016 7:06 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Just a quick clarification first.  There is usually no need to
enter the security code when choosing to approve the device from
another device.  For example, if I wished to enrol my iPhone to use
the iCloud Keychain, and if I'd already had it enabled on my Mac,
then I'd choose "Approve from another device", which in turn would
send a notification to all my devices that have iCloud Keychain
enabled.  I would accept it on my Mac, and would be asked to enter
my Apple ID password.  No Security Code needed.  If this is the
first device you're enrolling, then you'll need to enter a new
Security Code.

If you're unsure as to whether you've set it up initially on
another device, or have forgot your Security Code, I find it
easiest to work from the Mac to reset this sort of stuff.  This is
done in System Preferences, iCloud.  Once you fix things up within
iCloud on your Mac, you can use the regular methods of approval
mentioned above.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 19, 2016, at 23:05, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Decided to enable this. When I do, I am asked for the iCloud
Keychain security code. I enter one then go to the iPhone to get a
code from there to enter

Re: iCloud Keychain

2016-09-22 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

When you interact with the Services table, navigate down to Keychain, then 
interact again, there'll be an Options button.  Press on that and you should 
have the ability to change the code.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 22, 2016, at 13:58, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Tim,
  Signed out and closed System prefs then opened it and signed in again. Same 
thing happened except this time the dialog said incorrect code. I see no place 
to reset it.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>

On 9/20/2016 10:00 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, signing out then exiting System Preferences sounds like a good thing to 
> do.  It is good to quit System Prefs, then go back in to re-sign into iCloud. 
>  This allows for System Prefs to properly kill processes before logging back 
> in.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 20, 2016, at 10:36, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>  Yes indeed. I have been googling this too and come up with nothing helpful. 
> I cannot access the options if I cannot enable Keychain. later I may sign out 
> and back in and see if that changes anything.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 9/20/2016 9:30 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> so, on your Mac, it is asking for a four digit code when you attempt to 
>> enable iCloud Keychain?  Hmmm.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 09:55, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Tim,
>> I'm wondering now if I am mistaken here. When I try to enable Keychain, the 
>> dialog asks for iCloud security code and its a 4 digit code. This must not 
>> be the same thing as the one that requires 6 digits.
>> 
>> Mu iPhone and iPad both do not have Keychain enabled.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 9/20/2016 7:35 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I suggest that you then first turn iCloud Keychain off on your iPhone.  It 
>>> shouldn't require a code for that, just your Apple ID credentials.  Now, 
>>> try enabling it on your Mac.  If it is already on, when you click on 
>>> Options, a dialog should appear that gives you the option to change your 
>>> Security Code.  this needs to be a six digit code.  It accepts numbers kind 
>>> of like the pass-code on an iPhone whereby you push a number and it pops 
>>> over to the next numeric field automatically.  You'll need to enter this 
>>> code two times, a phone number that accepts SMS messages, then enter your 
>>> Apple ID credentials to confirm the change.  This is to make sure that a 
>>> third party could not simply change that Security Code and SMS number 
>>> without knowing all your info.
>>> 
>>> Let me know how it goes.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 08:21, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> At this point I am not sure I ever did enable Keychain. Working from the 
>>> Mac I cannot get past the dialog for the code. If I enter one the iPhone 
>>> gets a text with a verification code which I type in on the Mac which then 
>>> cycles back to requesting the security code. So I get nowhere. On that 
>>> dialog there is text that says Forgot code. Its not a link or button.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 9/20/2016 7:06 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Just a quick clarification first.  There is usually no need to enter the 
>>>> security code when choosing to approve the device from another device.  
>>>> For example, if I wished to enrol my iPhone to use the iCloud Keychain, 
>>>> and if I'd already had it enabled on my Mac, then I'd choose "Approve from 
>>>> another device", which in turn would send a notification to all my devices 
>>>> that have iCloud Keychain enabled.  I would accept it on my Mac, and would 
>>>> be asked to enter my Apple ID password.  No Security Code needed.  If this 
>>>> is the first device you're enrolling, then you'll need to enter a new 
>>>> Secur

Re: iCloud Keychain

2016-09-22 Thread E.T.

Tim,
   Signed out and closed System prefs then opened it and signed in 
again. Same thing happened except this time the dialog said incorrect 
code. I see no place to reset it.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/20/2016 10:00 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Yes, signing out then exiting System Preferences sounds like a good thing to 
do.  It is good to quit System Prefs, then go back in to re-sign into iCloud.  
This allows for System Prefs to properly kill processes before logging back in.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 20, 2016, at 10:36, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

  Yes indeed. I have been googling this too and come up with nothing helpful. I 
cannot access the options if I cannot enable Keychain. later I may sign out and 
back in and see if that changes anything.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/20/2016 9:30 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

so, on your Mac, it is asking for a four digit code when you attempt to enable 
iCloud Keychain?  Hmmm.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 20, 2016, at 09:55, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Tim,
 I'm wondering now if I am mistaken here. When I try to enable Keychain, the 
dialog asks for iCloud security code and its a 4 digit code. This must not be 
the same thing as the one that requires 6 digits.

 Mu iPhone and iPad both do not have Keychain enabled.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/20/2016 7:35 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

I suggest that you then first turn iCloud Keychain off on your iPhone.  It 
shouldn't require a code for that, just your Apple ID credentials.  Now, try 
enabling it on your Mac.  If it is already on, when you click on Options, a 
dialog should appear that gives you the option to change your Security Code.  
this needs to be a six digit code.  It accepts numbers kind of like the 
pass-code on an iPhone whereby you push a number and it pops over to the next 
numeric field automatically.  You'll need to enter this code two times, a phone 
number that accepts SMS messages, then enter your Apple ID credentials to 
confirm the change.  This is to make sure that a third party could not simply 
change that Security Code and SMS number without knowing all your info.

Let me know how it goes.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 20, 2016, at 08:21, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Hi Tim,
At this point I am not sure I ever did enable Keychain. Working from the Mac I 
cannot get past the dialog for the code. If I enter one the iPhone gets a text 
with a verification code which I type in on the Mac which then cycles back to 
requesting the security code. So I get nowhere. On that dialog there is text 
that says Forgot code. Its not a link or button.

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On 9/20/2016 7:06 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Just a quick clarification first.  There is usually no need to enter the security code 
when choosing to approve the device from another device.  For example, if I wished to 
enrol my iPhone to use the iCloud Keychain, and if I'd already had it enabled on my Mac, 
then I'd choose "Approve from another device", which in turn would send a 
notification to all my devices that have iCloud Keychain enabled.  I would accept it on 
my Mac, and would be asked to enter my Apple ID password.  No Security Code needed.  If 
this is the first device you're enrolling, then you'll need to enter a new Security Code.

If you're unsure as to whether you've set it up initially on another device, or 
have forgot your Security Code, I find it easiest to work from the Mac to reset 
this sort of stuff.  This is done in System Preferences, iCloud.  Once you fix 
things up within iCloud on your Mac, you can use the regular methods of 
approval mentioned above.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 19, 2016, at 23:05, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Decided to enable this. When I do, I am asked for the iCloud Keychain security 
code. I enter one then go to the iPhone to get a code from there to enter on 
the Mac to approve the iPhone. Am again asked for the iCloud Keychain security 
code.

So now I need to reset it. On the Mac in iCloud prefs I need to select the 
Option button in the table. Nothing happens. I know I am missing something 
somewhere. If I check iCloud Keychain in the table, I get the dialog dealing 
with the iPhone. But if I want to click that Options button, I have to interact 
with the iCloud Keychain item. And that gets me nowhere. What now?

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Re: iCloud Keychain

2016-09-20 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Yes, signing out then exiting System Preferences sounds like a good thing to 
do.  It is good to quit System Prefs, then go back in to re-sign into iCloud.  
This allows for System Prefs to properly kill processes before logging back in.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 20, 2016, at 10:36, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

  Yes indeed. I have been googling this too and come up with nothing helpful. I 
cannot access the options if I cannot enable Keychain. later I may sign out and 
back in and see if that changes anything.

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On 9/20/2016 9:30 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> so, on your Mac, it is asking for a four digit code when you attempt to 
> enable iCloud Keychain?  Hmmm.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 20, 2016, at 09:55, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Tim,
>  I'm wondering now if I am mistaken here. When I try to enable Keychain, the 
> dialog asks for iCloud security code and its a 4 digit code. This must not be 
> the same thing as the one that requires 6 digits.
> 
>  Mu iPhone and iPad both do not have Keychain enabled.
> 
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> On 9/20/2016 7:35 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I suggest that you then first turn iCloud Keychain off on your iPhone.  It 
>> shouldn't require a code for that, just your Apple ID credentials.  Now, try 
>> enabling it on your Mac.  If it is already on, when you click on Options, a 
>> dialog should appear that gives you the option to change your Security Code. 
>>  this needs to be a six digit code.  It accepts numbers kind of like the 
>> pass-code on an iPhone whereby you push a number and it pops over to the 
>> next numeric field automatically.  You'll need to enter this code two times, 
>> a phone number that accepts SMS messages, then enter your Apple ID 
>> credentials to confirm the change.  This is to make sure that a third party 
>> could not simply change that Security Code and SMS number without knowing 
>> all your info.
>> 
>> Let me know how it goes.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 08:21, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> At this point I am not sure I ever did enable Keychain. Working from the Mac 
>> I cannot get past the dialog for the code. If I enter one the iPhone gets a 
>> text with a verification code which I type in on the Mac which then cycles 
>> back to requesting the security code. So I get nowhere. On that dialog there 
>> is text that says Forgot code. Its not a link or button.
>> 
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>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 9/20/2016 7:06 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Just a quick clarification first.  There is usually no need to enter the 
>>> security code when choosing to approve the device from another device.  For 
>>> example, if I wished to enrol my iPhone to use the iCloud Keychain, and if 
>>> I'd already had it enabled on my Mac, then I'd choose "Approve from another 
>>> device", which in turn would send a notification to all my devices that 
>>> have iCloud Keychain enabled.  I would accept it on my Mac, and would be 
>>> asked to enter my Apple ID password.  No Security Code needed.  If this is 
>>> the first device you're enrolling, then you'll need to enter a new Security 
>>> Code.
>>> 
>>> If you're unsure as to whether you've set it up initially on another 
>>> device, or have forgot your Security Code, I find it easiest to work from 
>>> the Mac to reset this sort of stuff.  This is done in System Preferences, 
>>> iCloud.  Once you fix things up within iCloud on your Mac, you can use the 
>>> regular methods of approval mentioned above.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 23:05, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Decided to enable this. When I do, I am asked for the iCloud Keychain 
>>> security code. I enter one then go to the iPhone to get a code from there 
>>> to enter on the Mac to approve the iPhone. Am again asked for the iCloud 
>>> Keychain security code.
>>> 
>>> So now I need to reset it. On the Mac in iCloud pre

Re: iCloud Keychain

2016-09-20 Thread Kliphton Miller
The mac OS X was released about 5 minutes ago

> On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:55 PM, Caitlyn Furness <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I think this is messed up right now.
> 
> I tried to restore my old keychain on my i phone and I go through all the 
> steps and it comes back as saying that i cloud keychain can’t be enabled and 
> gives me an ok button.  I’ve tried this set up process on four successive 
> days with no luck.  I”m going to wait til after the mac OS comes out, maybe 
> next week, and see if that makes any difference.
> 
> Cait
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 1:05 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  Decided to enable this. When I do, I am asked for the iCloud Keychain 
>> security code. I enter one then go to the iPhone to get a code from there to 
>> enter on the Mac to approve the iPhone. Am again asked for the iCloud 
>> Keychain security code.
>> 
>>  So now I need to reset it. On the Mac in iCloud prefs I need to select the 
>> Option button in the table. Nothing happens. I know I am missing something 
>> somewhere. If I check iCloud Keychain in the table, I get the dialog dealing 
>> with the iPhone. But if I want to click that Options button, I have to 
>> interact with the iCloud Keychain item. And that gets me nowhere. What now?
>> 
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Re: iCloud Keychain

2016-09-20 Thread Caitlyn Furness
I think this is messed up right now.

I tried to restore my old keychain on my i phone and I go through all the steps 
and it comes back as saying that i cloud keychain can’t be enabled and gives me 
an ok button.  I’ve tried this set up process on four successive days with no 
luck.  I”m going to wait til after the mac OS comes out, maybe next week, and 
see if that makes any difference.

Cait

> On Sep 20, 2016, at 1:05 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   Decided to enable this. When I do, I am asked for the iCloud Keychain 
> security code. I enter one then go to the iPhone to get a code from there to 
> enter on the Mac to approve the iPhone. Am again asked for the iCloud 
> Keychain security code.
> 
>   So now I need to reset it. On the Mac in iCloud prefs I need to select the 
> Option button in the table. Nothing happens. I know I am missing something 
> somewhere. If I check iCloud Keychain in the table, I get the dialog dealing 
> with the iPhone. But if I want to click that Options button, I have to 
> interact with the iCloud Keychain item. And that gets me nowhere. What now?
> 
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Re: iCloud Keychain

2016-09-20 Thread E.T.
   Yes indeed. I have been googling this too and come up with nothing 
helpful. I cannot access the options if I cannot enable Keychain. later 
I may sign out and back in and see if that changes anything.


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On 9/20/2016 9:30 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

so, on your Mac, it is asking for a four digit code when you attempt to enable 
iCloud Keychain?  Hmmm.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 20, 2016, at 09:55, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Tim,
  I'm wondering now if I am mistaken here. When I try to enable Keychain, the 
dialog asks for iCloud security code and its a 4 digit code. This must not be 
the same thing as the one that requires 6 digits.

  Mu iPhone and iPad both do not have Keychain enabled.

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On 9/20/2016 7:35 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

I suggest that you then first turn iCloud Keychain off on your iPhone.  It 
shouldn't require a code for that, just your Apple ID credentials.  Now, try 
enabling it on your Mac.  If it is already on, when you click on Options, a 
dialog should appear that gives you the option to change your Security Code.  
this needs to be a six digit code.  It accepts numbers kind of like the 
pass-code on an iPhone whereby you push a number and it pops over to the next 
numeric field automatically.  You'll need to enter this code two times, a phone 
number that accepts SMS messages, then enter your Apple ID credentials to 
confirm the change.  This is to make sure that a third party could not simply 
change that Security Code and SMS number without knowing all your info.

Let me know how it goes.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 20, 2016, at 08:21, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Hi Tim,
 At this point I am not sure I ever did enable Keychain. Working from the Mac I 
cannot get past the dialog for the code. If I enter one the iPhone gets a text 
with a verification code which I type in on the Mac which then cycles back to 
requesting the security code. So I get nowhere. On that dialog there is text 
that says Forgot code. Its not a link or button.

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On 9/20/2016 7:06 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Just a quick clarification first.  There is usually no need to enter the security code 
when choosing to approve the device from another device.  For example, if I wished to 
enrol my iPhone to use the iCloud Keychain, and if I'd already had it enabled on my Mac, 
then I'd choose "Approve from another device", which in turn would send a 
notification to all my devices that have iCloud Keychain enabled.  I would accept it on 
my Mac, and would be asked to enter my Apple ID password.  No Security Code needed.  If 
this is the first device you're enrolling, then you'll need to enter a new Security Code.

If you're unsure as to whether you've set it up initially on another device, or 
have forgot your Security Code, I find it easiest to work from the Mac to reset 
this sort of stuff.  This is done in System Preferences, iCloud.  Once you fix 
things up within iCloud on your Mac, you can use the regular methods of 
approval mentioned above.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 19, 2016, at 23:05, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Decided to enable this. When I do, I am asked for the iCloud Keychain security 
code. I enter one then go to the iPhone to get a code from there to enter on 
the Mac to approve the iPhone. Am again asked for the iCloud Keychain security 
code.

So now I need to reset it. On the Mac in iCloud prefs I need to select the 
Option button in the table. Nothing happens. I know I am missing something 
somewhere. If I check iCloud Keychain in the table, I get the dialog dealing 
with the iPhone. But if I want to click that Options button, I have to interact 
with the iCloud Keychain item. And that gets me nowhere. What now?

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Re: iCloud Keychain

2016-09-20 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

so, on your Mac, it is asking for a four digit code when you attempt to enable 
iCloud Keychain?  Hmmm.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 20, 2016, at 09:55, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Tim,
  I'm wondering now if I am mistaken here. When I try to enable Keychain, the 
dialog asks for iCloud security code and its a 4 digit code. This must not be 
the same thing as the one that requires 6 digits.

  Mu iPhone and iPad both do not have Keychain enabled.

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On 9/20/2016 7:35 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I suggest that you then first turn iCloud Keychain off on your iPhone.  It 
> shouldn't require a code for that, just your Apple ID credentials.  Now, try 
> enabling it on your Mac.  If it is already on, when you click on Options, a 
> dialog should appear that gives you the option to change your Security Code.  
> this needs to be a six digit code.  It accepts numbers kind of like the 
> pass-code on an iPhone whereby you push a number and it pops over to the next 
> numeric field automatically.  You'll need to enter this code two times, a 
> phone number that accepts SMS messages, then enter your Apple ID credentials 
> to confirm the change.  This is to make sure that a third party could not 
> simply change that Security Code and SMS number without knowing all your info.
> 
> Let me know how it goes.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 20, 2016, at 08:21, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
>  At this point I am not sure I ever did enable Keychain. Working from the Mac 
> I cannot get past the dialog for the code. If I enter one the iPhone gets a 
> text with a verification code which I type in on the Mac which then cycles 
> back to requesting the security code. So I get nowhere. On that dialog there 
> is text that says Forgot code. Its not a link or button.
> 
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> 
> On 9/20/2016 7:06 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Just a quick clarification first.  There is usually no need to enter the 
>> security code when choosing to approve the device from another device.  For 
>> example, if I wished to enrol my iPhone to use the iCloud Keychain, and if 
>> I'd already had it enabled on my Mac, then I'd choose "Approve from another 
>> device", which in turn would send a notification to all my devices that have 
>> iCloud Keychain enabled.  I would accept it on my Mac, and would be asked to 
>> enter my Apple ID password.  No Security Code needed.  If this is the first 
>> device you're enrolling, then you'll need to enter a new Security Code.
>> 
>> If you're unsure as to whether you've set it up initially on another device, 
>> or have forgot your Security Code, I find it easiest to work from the Mac to 
>> reset this sort of stuff.  This is done in System Preferences, iCloud.  Once 
>> you fix things up within iCloud on your Mac, you can use the regular methods 
>> of approval mentioned above.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 23:05, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Decided to enable this. When I do, I am asked for the iCloud Keychain 
>> security code. I enter one then go to the iPhone to get a code from there to 
>> enter on the Mac to approve the iPhone. Am again asked for the iCloud 
>> Keychain security code.
>> 
>> So now I need to reset it. On the Mac in iCloud prefs I need to select the 
>> Option button in the table. Nothing happens. I know I am missing something 
>> somewhere. If I check iCloud Keychain in the table, I get the dialog dealing 
>> with the iPhone. But if I want to click that Options button, I have to 
>> interact with the iCloud Keychain item. And that gets me nowhere. What now?
>> 
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Re: iCloud Keychain

2016-09-20 Thread E.T.

Tim,
   I'm wondering now if I am mistaken here. When I try to enable 
Keychain, the dialog asks for iCloud security code and its a 4 digit 
code. This must not be the same thing as the one that requires 6 digits.


   Mu iPhone and iPad both do not have Keychain enabled.

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On 9/20/2016 7:35 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

I suggest that you then first turn iCloud Keychain off on your iPhone.  It 
shouldn't require a code for that, just your Apple ID credentials.  Now, try 
enabling it on your Mac.  If it is already on, when you click on Options, a 
dialog should appear that gives you the option to change your Security Code.  
this needs to be a six digit code.  It accepts numbers kind of like the 
pass-code on an iPhone whereby you push a number and it pops over to the next 
numeric field automatically.  You'll need to enter this code two times, a phone 
number that accepts SMS messages, then enter your Apple ID credentials to 
confirm the change.  This is to make sure that a third party could not simply 
change that Security Code and SMS number without knowing all your info.

Let me know how it goes.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 20, 2016, at 08:21, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Hi Tim,
  At this point I am not sure I ever did enable Keychain. Working from the Mac 
I cannot get past the dialog for the code. If I enter one the iPhone gets a 
text with a verification code which I type in on the Mac which then cycles back 
to requesting the security code. So I get nowhere. On that dialog there is text 
that says Forgot code. Its not a link or button.

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On 9/20/2016 7:06 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Just a quick clarification first.  There is usually no need to enter the security code 
when choosing to approve the device from another device.  For example, if I wished to 
enrol my iPhone to use the iCloud Keychain, and if I'd already had it enabled on my Mac, 
then I'd choose "Approve from another device", which in turn would send a 
notification to all my devices that have iCloud Keychain enabled.  I would accept it on 
my Mac, and would be asked to enter my Apple ID password.  No Security Code needed.  If 
this is the first device you're enrolling, then you'll need to enter a new Security Code.

If you're unsure as to whether you've set it up initially on another device, or 
have forgot your Security Code, I find it easiest to work from the Mac to reset 
this sort of stuff.  This is done in System Preferences, iCloud.  Once you fix 
things up within iCloud on your Mac, you can use the regular methods of 
approval mentioned above.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 19, 2016, at 23:05, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

 Decided to enable this. When I do, I am asked for the iCloud Keychain security 
code. I enter one then go to the iPhone to get a code from there to enter on 
the Mac to approve the iPhone. Am again asked for the iCloud Keychain security 
code.

 So now I need to reset it. On the Mac in iCloud prefs I need to select the 
Option button in the table. Nothing happens. I know I am missing something 
somewhere. If I check iCloud Keychain in the table, I get the dialog dealing 
with the iPhone. But if I want to click that Options button, I have to interact 
with the iCloud Keychain item. And that gets me nowhere. What now?

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Re: iCloud Keychain

2016-09-20 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

I suggest that you then first turn iCloud Keychain off on your iPhone.  It 
shouldn't require a code for that, just your Apple ID credentials.  Now, try 
enabling it on your Mac.  If it is already on, when you click on Options, a 
dialog should appear that gives you the option to change your Security Code.  
this needs to be a six digit code.  It accepts numbers kind of like the 
pass-code on an iPhone whereby you push a number and it pops over to the next 
numeric field automatically.  You'll need to enter this code two times, a phone 
number that accepts SMS messages, then enter your Apple ID credentials to 
confirm the change.  This is to make sure that a third party could not simply 
change that Security Code and SMS number without knowing all your info.

Let me know how it goes.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 20, 2016, at 08:21, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Hi Tim,
  At this point I am not sure I ever did enable Keychain. Working from the Mac 
I cannot get past the dialog for the code. If I enter one the iPhone gets a 
text with a verification code which I type in on the Mac which then cycles back 
to requesting the security code. So I get nowhere. On that dialog there is text 
that says Forgot code. Its not a link or button.

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On 9/20/2016 7:06 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just a quick clarification first.  There is usually no need to enter the 
> security code when choosing to approve the device from another device.  For 
> example, if I wished to enrol my iPhone to use the iCloud Keychain, and if 
> I'd already had it enabled on my Mac, then I'd choose "Approve from another 
> device", which in turn would send a notification to all my devices that have 
> iCloud Keychain enabled.  I would accept it on my Mac, and would be asked to 
> enter my Apple ID password.  No Security Code needed.  If this is the first 
> device you're enrolling, then you'll need to enter a new Security Code.
> 
> If you're unsure as to whether you've set it up initially on another device, 
> or have forgot your Security Code, I find it easiest to work from the Mac to 
> reset this sort of stuff.  This is done in System Preferences, iCloud.  Once 
> you fix things up within iCloud on your Mac, you can use the regular methods 
> of approval mentioned above.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 19, 2016, at 23:05, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>  Decided to enable this. When I do, I am asked for the iCloud Keychain 
> security code. I enter one then go to the iPhone to get a code from there to 
> enter on the Mac to approve the iPhone. Am again asked for the iCloud 
> Keychain security code.
> 
>  So now I need to reset it. On the Mac in iCloud prefs I need to select the 
> Option button in the table. Nothing happens. I know I am missing something 
> somewhere. If I check iCloud Keychain in the table, I get the dialog dealing 
> with the iPhone. But if I want to click that Options button, I have to 
> interact with the iCloud Keychain item. And that gets me nowhere. What now?
> 
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Re: iCloud Keychain

2016-09-20 Thread E.T.

Hi Tim,
   At this point I am not sure I ever did enable Keychain. Working from 
the Mac I cannot get past the dialog for the code. If I enter one the 
iPhone gets a text with a verification code which I type in on the Mac 
which then cycles back to requesting the security code. So I get 
nowhere. On that dialog there is text that says Forgot code. Its not a 
link or button.


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On 9/20/2016 7:06 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Just a quick clarification first.  There is usually no need to enter the security code 
when choosing to approve the device from another device.  For example, if I wished to 
enrol my iPhone to use the iCloud Keychain, and if I'd already had it enabled on my Mac, 
then I'd choose "Approve from another device", which in turn would send a 
notification to all my devices that have iCloud Keychain enabled.  I would accept it on 
my Mac, and would be asked to enter my Apple ID password.  No Security Code needed.  If 
this is the first device you're enrolling, then you'll need to enter a new Security Code.

If you're unsure as to whether you've set it up initially on another device, or 
have forgot your Security Code, I find it easiest to work from the Mac to reset 
this sort of stuff.  This is done in System Preferences, iCloud.  Once you fix 
things up within iCloud on your Mac, you can use the regular methods of 
approval mentioned above.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 19, 2016, at 23:05, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

  Decided to enable this. When I do, I am asked for the iCloud Keychain 
security code. I enter one then go to the iPhone to get a code from there to 
enter on the Mac to approve the iPhone. Am again asked for the iCloud Keychain 
security code.

  So now I need to reset it. On the Mac in iCloud prefs I need to select the 
Option button in the table. Nothing happens. I know I am missing something 
somewhere. If I check iCloud Keychain in the table, I get the dialog dealing 
with the iPhone. But if I want to click that Options button, I have to interact 
with the iCloud Keychain item. And that gets me nowhere. What now?

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Re: iCloud Keychain

2016-09-20 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Just a quick clarification first.  There is usually no need to enter the 
security code when choosing to approve the device from another device.  For 
example, if I wished to enrol my iPhone to use the iCloud Keychain, and if I'd 
already had it enabled on my Mac, then I'd choose "Approve from another 
device", which in turn would send a notification to all my devices that have 
iCloud Keychain enabled.  I would accept it on my Mac, and would be asked to 
enter my Apple ID password.  No Security Code needed.  If this is the first 
device you're enrolling, then you'll need to enter a new Security Code.

If you're unsure as to whether you've set it up initially on another device, or 
have forgot your Security Code, I find it easiest to work from the Mac to reset 
this sort of stuff.  This is done in System Preferences, iCloud.  Once you fix 
things up within iCloud on your Mac, you can use the regular methods of 
approval mentioned above.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 19, 2016, at 23:05, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

  Decided to enable this. When I do, I am asked for the iCloud Keychain 
security code. I enter one then go to the iPhone to get a code from there to 
enter on the Mac to approve the iPhone. Am again asked for the iCloud Keychain 
security code.

  So now I need to reset it. On the Mac in iCloud prefs I need to select the 
Option button in the table. Nothing happens. I know I am missing something 
somewhere. If I check iCloud Keychain in the table, I get the dialog dealing 
with the iPhone. But if I want to click that Options button, I have to interact 
with the iCloud Keychain item. And that gets me nowhere. What now?

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iCloud Keychain

2016-09-19 Thread E.T.
   Decided to enable this. When I do, I am asked for the iCloud 
Keychain security code. I enter one then go to the iPhone to get a code 
from there to enter on the Mac to approve the iPhone. Am again asked for 
the iCloud Keychain security code.


   So now I need to reset it. On the Mac in iCloud prefs I need to 
select the Option button in the table. Nothing happens. I know I am 
missing something somewhere. If I check iCloud Keychain in the table, I 
get the dialog dealing with the iPhone. But if I want to click that 
Options button, I have to interact with the iCloud Keychain item. And 
that gets me nowhere. What now?


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Can't access Keychain Access, or Internet Accounts, Etc.

2016-01-29 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Tonight I discovered I have bigger problems on my Air than VMware
functionality.

First, I noticed Safari wouldn't start


Going into Internet Accounts I find I can't access the table of
configured accounts. El Cap says "busy" and the busy never goes away.
Only way out is Command+Option+Escape.


So, next I try Keychain Access. After all, I changed my login password
recently, so should update the keychain in order to not be prompted,
right? Well, Keychain Access is also a no go. It's another perpetual
"busy."

So, what's the debug process? Is there a good help on how to debug with
VO? Seems restarting in Safe Mode doesn't give me VO. So, I'm feeling
stuck on how to proceed.

All suggestions warmly welcomed.

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Re: A Question About Using/Enabling Keychain Access on iPhone

2015-10-28 Thread Scott Granados
Hi Mark, I can’t imagine what that problem would be.  I’ve been using keychain 
since day 1 and have experienced no problems on any of my devices mobile or 
otherwise.

Thanks
Scott

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> 
> While I do have keychain access enabled on my Macs, I seem to recall
> reading, online, a couple of years ago, that enabling keychain access on
> iPhone could sometimes cause some unexpected, and not at all beneficial,
> side-effects when either logging into the Mac or onto web sites or
> something.  I can't exactly remember but I do know that there was something
> that users encountered after enabling keychain access in iOS.  
> 
> Question,   
> 
> Has anyone using keychain access in IOS noticed any adverse consequences?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
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A Question About Using/Enabling Keychain Access on iPhone

2015-10-27 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

While I do have keychain access enabled on my Macs, I seem to recall
reading, online, a couple of years ago, that enabling keychain access on
iPhone could sometimes cause some unexpected, and not at all beneficial,
side-effects when either logging into the Mac or onto web sites or
something.  I can't exactly remember but I do know that there was something
that users encountered after enabling keychain access in iOS.  

Question,   

Has anyone using keychain access in IOS noticed any adverse consequences?

Thank you,

Mark

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Re: A Question About Using/Enabling Keychain Access on iPhone

2015-10-27 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
No effects using Key chain.
> On 27 Oct 2015, at 20:08, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> While I do have keychain access enabled on my Macs, I seem to recall
> reading, online, a couple of years ago, that enabling keychain access on
> iPhone could sometimes cause some unexpected, and not at all beneficial,
> side-effects when either logging into the Mac or onto web sites or
> something.  I can't exactly remember but I do know that there was something
> that users encountered after enabling keychain access in iOS.  
> 
> Question,   
> 
> Has anyone using keychain access in IOS noticed any adverse consequences?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
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Re: A Question About Using/Enabling Keychain Access on iPhone

2015-10-27 Thread David Chittenden
Hi Mark,

I have been using keychain on both of my iPhones, my iPad, and my Mac, ever 
since the feature came out. I have never experienced what you are referring to.

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> iPhone could sometimes cause some unexpected, and not at all beneficial,
> side-effects when either logging into the Mac or onto web sites or
> something.  I can't exactly remember but I do know that there was something
> that users encountered after enabling keychain access in iOS.  
> 
> Question,   
> 
> Has anyone using keychain access in IOS noticed any adverse consequences?
> 
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> 
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Re: Keychain on my I Mac.

2015-10-04 Thread Alex Hall
Keychain only needs that code once, unless you disable the feature later on.
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 09:36, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi All.
> 
> I have had a night mare with my keychain for my Mac.
> 
> Yesterday after installing El Capitan on the iMac, I screwed up my Keychain 
> and today I had to wipe the disk and start over.  Now however, I approved 
> from my I phone 6 Plus S as I managed to remove the other phone from my 
> trusted devices before I did a fresh install.  The only thing I don’t 
> understand, even though I got a code from my I phone for the key chain, do I 
> have to remember what it is and put it in each time I restart my Mac or do I 
> get a different one?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> I am very behind on this mail list as have been setting up my devices and 
> still have to set it up on my Mac Mini.
> 
> Kawal.
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Keychain on my I Mac.

2015-10-04 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hi All.

I have had a night mare with my keychain for my Mac.

Yesterday after installing El Capitan on the iMac, I screwed up my Keychain and 
today I had to wipe the disk and start over.  Now however, I approved from my I 
phone 6 Plus S as I managed to remove the other phone from my trusted devices 
before I did a fresh install.  The only thing I don’t understand, even though I 
got a code from my I phone for the key chain, do I have to remember what it is 
and put it in each time I restart my Mac or do I get a different one?

Thanks.

I am very behind on this mail list as have been setting up my devices and still 
have to set it up on my Mac Mini.

Kawal.

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