Re: Blume Wifi

[Scott Granados]

Chris, your limiter is probably your TCP receive window size depending on the 
OS you’re running.  You should tweak your TCP stack to allow for larger TCP 
windows (more segments).  As latency increases (data is further away) the 
through put decreases if the window size stays constant.  Tuning the window 
sizes higher may give you 3 to 10 times the throughput on more distant sites.  
BY distant I mean higher RTT (round trip time) between you and the service.  
The Mac Sierra stock install allows for the window to scale to 3 times the 
normal 64K value.  You want this to be more like 8 times the value, can be set 
under sysctl.  The reason Apple fills up your pipes is they connect you to the 
closest resource CDN style and likely that is provided over direct peering to 
one of their near by data centers.  You probably only have a few milliseconds 
of RTT between you and the serving web farm.  If you connect to say something 
served out of California only and you’re on the east coast that RTT may be 80 
milliseconds which means an unadjusted window will max out at about 6 megabits 
per second even though you have about 125 megabytes of throughput available.  
Does that make sense?  Let me know if you need more detail.
 
> On Jun 11, 2017, at 10:23 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> I have Gb internet at work and the only thing I've found that will fill the 
> pipe is Apple updates. I think it's peaked at 112MB/s download getting an 
> iOS update. Everything else seems to have bottlenecks elsewhere the cap the 
> throughput.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 6/11/17 9:53 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> It’s hard to fill up a gigabit.  I use all sorts of parallel stuff 
>> streaming, gaming, phones, and so forth so the extra headroom just helps 
>> everything work smoothly.  I could probably get away with far less.
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>>  
>>> I’m meant to have gigabit internet for my home but it’s a joke here in nz,
>>> I’m lucky if I get half a gigabit for a download.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> As for wifi I’m currently using a fritzbox as my router modem,
>>> I’d love to have faster internet / wifi but hey lifes a bitch and we’re 
>>> getting screwed by providers in nz.
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Sunday, 11 June 2017 8:03 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Blume Wifi
>>>  
>>> Hey Scot,
>>>  
>>> Yeah, it's pretty cool.  We have the gigabyte option here, too, but we 
>>> didn't get it for our rental house.  We're thinking about it for our 
>>> permanent home, which we'll be moving into in July.  Good to know the 
>>> limits of the Airport.  I was wondering what its cut-off point was.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>>  
>>> On Jun 10, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Ah I love being on a fiber network.  They just rolled out full gigabit 
>>> where I live and I upgraded while cutting my bill in half.  I have so much 
>>> on WiFi now that I really do need a distributed system.  Your airport is 
>>> good up to about 200 megabits.  If your service will be faster than that 
>>> it’s time to update.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On Jun 10, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com 
>>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Thanks for sharing this, Scott.  Now that I have the option of a fast fiber 
>>> connection, I've been wondering if it's time to replace our airport 
>>> extreme.  this sounds like an interesting option.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>>  
>>> On Jun 10, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi Simon,
>>>  
>>> The way it seems to work is you connect via 1 or 2 gigabit ports to your 
>>> network.  Either by placing the 
>>>   master unit in router mode and having it handle the whole 
>>> internet connection or in bridge mode where it provides the access p

Re: Blume Wifi

[Scott Granados]

That’s exactly right, they dynamically build the mesh similar to how OSPF 
neighbors form adjacencies if you’re familiar with that.  You don’t have to run 
ethernet to each, they mesh over back channels wirelessly.

> On Jun 12, 2017, at 2:20 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> As in plugging them in to mains power and they then pick up the wifi network 
> from the base unit or closest blume pod
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Monday, 12 June 2017 1:52 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Blume Wifi
>  
> You power them by plugging them in. They are small pods that just sit around 
> the property.  You can mesh as many as you want together they come in boxes 
> of 1 3 and 6 I believe.
>  
> On Jun 11, 2017, at 4:48 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>  
> Yeah that I understand but the actual quality of it once it’s up and working 
> is what I’m looking for.
>  
> The mesh networking idea as you say has been around for a while but putting 
> it in the home will make life easy for full coverage.
>  
> But I was wondering how you power the repeaters or units around the house,
> Does each one need to be plugged in to a power socket?
>  
> I’m kind of wondering if this might be a problem solver for my place and my 
> neighbours to allow us to share an internet connection therefore me make some 
> extra cash each month.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Sunday, 11 June 2017 12:02 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Blume Wifi
>  
> Hi Simon,
>  
> The way it seems to work is you connect via 1 or 2 gigabit ports to your 
> network.  Either by placing the master unit in router mode and having it 
> handle the whole internet connection or in bridge mode where it provides the 
> access point function but you provide your own routing hardware.  (This will 
> be my config). Once connected you start an app on your phone (iPhone in my 
> case but both platforms are supported) and you configure the first plume 
> device.  Then you power up and add each new device to the mesh.  You don’t 
> run physical wires to anything but the controller or master access point.  
> The rest use backhaul channels to build the mesh.  Once you’ve added all the 
> access points you want, you get a box of 6 for $320 US, they connect to a 
> cloud application where the mesh starts to optimize itself.  The meshes can 
> either direct connect back to the control access point and or hop from one to 
> another if that’s more optimal.  The cloud software and access points will 
> steer the clients to the best frequency and access point based on it’s 
> location with in the mesh.  IF 2.4 ghz suddenly becomes more speedy you’ll 
> drop to 2.4 and then be steered back up to 5 ghz if that returns to normal.  
> Also uses tactics to isolate you from your neighbors and so forth.  Cool 
> stuff.  Google is also working in this space as is Netgear and Niro.  Plume 
> seems to rate the highest and perform the best in testing from the reviews 
> I’ve read though.
>  
> Cool stuff.  Mesh WiFi was usually the stuff of big enterprises, nice to have 
> it in the home now.
>  
> On Jun 10, 2017, at 2:34 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>  
> Hi Scott,
>  
> When You test drive these blume wifi devices I’m interested to know how they 
> go
>  
> They sound bloody interesting 
>  
> I’m wondering though how you get them connected to your network.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
>  
> Simon f
>  
>  
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RE: Blume Wifi

[Simon Fogarty]

As in plugging them in to mains power and they then pick up the wifi network 
from the base unit or closest blume pod

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 12 June 2017 1:52 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blume Wifi

You power them by plugging them in. They are small pods that just sit around 
the property.  You can mesh as many as you want together they come in boxes of 
1 3 and 6 I believe.

On Jun 11, 2017, at 4:48 AM, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah that I understand but the actual quality of it once it’s up and working is 
what I’m looking for.

The mesh networking idea as you say has been around for a while but putting it 
in the home will make life easy for full coverage.

But I was wondering how you power the repeaters or units around the house,
Does each one need to be plugged in to a power socket?

I’m kind of wondering if this might be a problem solver for my place and my 
neighbours to allow us to share an internet connection therefore me make some 
extra cash each month.


From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Sunday, 11 June 2017 12:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Blume Wifi

Hi Simon,

The way it seems to work is you connect via 1 or 2 gigabit ports to your 
network.  Either by placing the master unit in router mode and having it handle 
the whole internet connection or in bridge mode where it provides the access 
point function but you provide your own routing hardware.  (This will be my 
config). Once connected you start an app on your phone (iPhone in my case but 
both platforms are supported) and you configure the first plume device.  Then 
you power up and add each new device to the mesh.  You don’t run physical wires 
to anything but the controller or master access point.  The rest use backhaul 
channels to build the mesh.  Once you’ve added all the access points you want, 
you get a box of 6 for $320 US, they connect to a cloud application where the 
mesh starts to optimize itself.  The meshes can either direct connect back to 
the control access point and or hop from one to another if that’s more optimal. 
 The cloud software and access points will steer the clients to the best 
frequency and access point based on it’s location with in the mesh.  IF 2.4 ghz 
suddenly becomes more speedy you’ll drop to 2.4 and then be steered back up to 
5 ghz if that returns to normal.  Also uses tactics to isolate you from your 
neighbors and so forth.  Cool stuff.  Google is also working in this space as 
is Netgear and Niro.  Plume seems to rate the highest and perform the best in 
testing from the reviews I’ve read though.

Cool stuff.  Mesh WiFi was usually the stuff of big enterprises, nice to have 
it in the home now.

On Jun 10, 2017, at 2:34 AM, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Scott,

When You test drive these blume wifi devices I’m interested to know how they go

They sound bloody interesting

I’m wondering though how you get them connected to your network.

Cheers,


Simon f


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Re: Blume Wifi

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

I have Gb internet at work and the only thing I've found that will fill 
the pipe is Apple updates. I think it's peaked at 112MB/s download 
getting an iOS update. Everything else seems to have bottlenecks 
elsewhere the cap the throughput.


CB

On 6/11/17 9:53 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
It’s hard to fill up a gigabit.  I use all sorts of parallel stuff 
streaming, gaming, phones, and so forth so the extra headroom just 
helps everything work smoothly.  I could probably get away with far less.


On Jun 11, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:


Scott,
I’m meant to have gigabit internet for my home but it’s a joke here 
in nz,

I’m lucky if I get half a gigabit for a download.
As for wifi I’m currently using a fritzbox as my router modem,
I’d love to have faster internet / wifi but hey lifes a bitch and 
we’re getting screwed by providers in nz.
*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]*On 
Behalf Of*Donna Goodin

*Sent:*Sunday, 11 June 2017 8:03 AM
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>

*Subject:*Re: Blume Wifi
Hey Scot,
Yeah, it's pretty cool.  We have the gigabyte option here, too, but 
we didn't get it for our rental house.  We're thinking about it for 
our permanent home, which we'll be moving into in July.  Good to know 
the limits of the Airport.  I was wondering what its cut-off point was.

Cheers,
Donna

On Jun 10, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Scott Granados
<scott.grana...@gmail.com <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Ah I love being on a fiber network.  They just rolled out full
gigabit where I live and I upgraded while cutting my bill in
half.  I have so much on WiFi now that I really do need a
distributed system.  Your airport is good up to about 200
megabits.  If your service will be faster than that it’s time to
update.

On Jun 10, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com
<mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
Thanks for sharing this, Scott.  Now that I have the option
of a fast fiber connection, I've been wondering if it's time
to replace our airport extreme.  this sounds like an
interesting option.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jun 10, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Scott Granados
<scott.grana...@gmail.com
<mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Simon,
The way it seems to work is you connect via 1 or 2
gigabit ports to your network.  Either by placing the
master unit in router mode and having it handle the whole
internet connection or in bridge mode where it provides
the access point function but you provide your own
routing hardware.  (This will be my config). Once
connected you start an app on your phone (iPhone in my
case but both platforms are supported) and you configure
the first plume device.  Then you power up and add each
new device to the mesh.  You don’t run physical wires to
anything but the controller or master access point.  The
rest use backhaul channels to build the mesh.  Once
you’ve added all the access points you want, you get a
box of 6 for $320 US, they connect to a cloud application
where the mesh starts to optimize itself.  The meshes can
either direct connect back to the control access point
and or hop from one to another if that’s more optimal.
 The cloud software and access points will steer the
clients to the best frequency and access point based on
it’s location with in the mesh.  IF 2.4 ghz suddenly
becomes more speedy you’ll drop to 2.4 and then be
steered back up to 5 ghz if that returns to normal.  Also
uses tactics to isolate you from your neighbors and so
forth.  Cool stuff.  Google is also working in this space
as is Netgear and Niro.  Plume seems to rate the highest
and perform the best in testing from the reviews I’ve
read though.
Cool stuff.  Mesh WiFi was usually the stuff of big
enterprises, nice to have it in the home now.

On Jun 10, 2017, at 2:34 AM, Simon Fogarty
<si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
wrote:
Hi Scott,
When You test drive these blume wifi devices I’m
interested to know how they go
They sound bloody interesting
I’m wondering though how you get them connected to
your network.
Cheers,
Simon f
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Re: Blume Wifi

[Scott Granados]

It’s hard to fill up a gigabit.  I use all sorts of parallel stuff streaming, 
gaming, phones, and so forth so the extra headroom just helps everything work 
smoothly.  I could probably get away with far less.

> On Jun 11, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> 
> I’m meant to have gigabit internet for my home but it’s a joke here in nz,
> I’m lucky if I get half a gigabit for a download.
> 
> 
> As for wifi I’m currently using a fritzbox as my router modem,
> I’d love to have faster internet / wifi but hey lifes a bitch and we’re 
> getting screwed by providers in nz.
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Sunday, 11 June 2017 8:03 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Blume Wifi
> 
> Hey Scot,
> 
> Yeah, it's pretty cool.  We have the gigabyte option here, too, but we didn't 
> get it for our rental house.  We're thinking about it for our permanent home, 
> which we'll be moving into in July.  Good to know the limits of the Airport.  
> I was wondering what its cut-off point was.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Jun 10, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Ah I love being on a fiber network.  They just rolled out full gigabit where 
> I live and I upgraded while cutting my bill in half.  I have so much on WiFi 
> now that I really do need a distributed system.  Your airport is good up to 
> about 200 megabits.  If your service will be faster than that it’s time to 
> update.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 10, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com 
> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for sharing this, Scott.  Now that I have the option of a fast fiber 
> connection, I've been wondering if it's time to replace our airport extreme.  
> this sounds like an interesting option.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Jun 10, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> The way it seems to work is you connect via 1 or 2 gigabit ports to your 
> network.  Either by placing the master unit in router mode and having it 
> handle the whole internet connection or in bridge mode where it provides the 
> access point function but you provide your own routing hardware.  (This will 
> be my config). Once connected you start an app on your phone (iPhone in my 
> case but both platforms are supported) and you configure the first plume 
> device.  Then you power up and add each new device to the mesh.  You don’t 
> run physical wires to anything but the controller or master access point.  
> The rest use backhaul channels to build the mesh.  Once you’ve added all the 
> access points you want, you get a box of 6 for $320 US, they connect to a 
> cloud application where the mesh starts to optimize itself.  The meshes can 
> either direct connect back to the control access point and or hop from one to 
> another if that’s more optimal.  The cloud software and access points will 
> steer the clients to the best frequency and access point based on it’s 
> location with in the mesh.  IF 2.4 ghz suddenly becomes more speedy you’ll 
> drop to 2.4 and then be steered back up to 5 ghz if that returns to normal.  
> Also uses tactics to isolate you from your neighbors and so forth.  Cool 
> stuff.  Google is also working in this space as is Netgear and Niro.  Plume 
> seems to rate the highest and perform the best in testing from the reviews 
> I’ve read though.
> 
> Cool stuff.  Mesh WiFi was usually the stuff of big enterprises, nice to have 
> it in the home now.
> 
> On Jun 10, 2017, at 2:34 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> When You test drive these blume wifi devices I’m interested to know how they 
> go
> 
> They sound bloody interesting
> 
> I’m wondering though how you get them connected to your network.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Simon f
> 
> 
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Re: Blume Wifi

[Scott Granados]

You power them by plugging them in. They are small pods that just sit around 
the property.  You can mesh as many as you want together they come in boxes of 
1 3 and 6 I believe.

> On Jun 11, 2017, at 4:48 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Yeah that I understand but the actual quality of it once it’s up and working 
> is what I’m looking for.
> 
> The mesh networking idea as you say has been around for a while but putting 
> it in the home will make life easy for full coverage.
> 
> But I was wondering how you power the repeaters or units around the house,
> Does each one need to be plugged in to a power socket?
> 
> I’m kind of wondering if this might be a problem solver for my place and my 
> neighbours to allow us to share an internet connection therefore me make some 
> extra cash each month.
> 
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Sunday, 11 June 2017 12:02 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Blume Wifi
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> The way it seems to work is you connect via 1 or 2 gigabit ports to your 
> network.  Either by placing the master unit in router mode and having it 
> handle the whole internet connection or in bridge mode where it provides the 
> access point function but you provide your own routing hardware.  (This will 
> be my config). Once connected you start an app on your phone (iPhone in my 
> case but both platforms are supported) and you configure the first plume 
> device.  Then you power up and add each new device to the mesh.  You don’t 
> run physical wires to anything but the controller or master access point.  
> The rest use backhaul channels to build the mesh.  Once you’ve added all the 
> access points you want, you get a box of 6 for $320 US, they connect to a 
> cloud application where the mesh starts to optimize itself.  The meshes can 
> either direct connect back to the control access point and or hop from one to 
> another if that’s more optimal.  The cloud software and access points will 
> steer the clients to the best frequency and access point based on it’s 
> location with in the mesh.  IF 2.4 ghz suddenly becomes more speedy you’ll 
> drop to 2.4 and then be steered back up to 5 ghz if that returns to normal.  
> Also uses tactics to isolate you from your neighbors and so forth.  Cool 
> stuff.  Google is also working in this space as is Netgear and Niro.  Plume 
> seems to rate the highest and perform the best in testing from the reviews 
> I’ve read though.
> 
> Cool stuff.  Mesh WiFi was usually the stuff of big enterprises, nice to have 
> it in the home now.
> 
> On Jun 10, 2017, at 2:34 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> When You test drive these blume wifi devices I’m interested to know how they 
> go
> 
> They sound bloody interesting
> 
> I’m wondering though how you get them connected to your network.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Simon f
> 
> 
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RE: Blume Wifi

[Simon Fogarty]

Scott,

I’m meant to have gigabit internet for my home but it’s a joke here in nz,
I’m lucky if I get half a gigabit for a download.


As for wifi I’m currently using a fritzbox as my router modem,
I’d love to have faster internet / wifi but hey lifes a bitch and we’re getting 
screwed by providers in nz.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Sunday, 11 June 2017 8:03 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blume Wifi

Hey Scot,

Yeah, it's pretty cool.  We have the gigabyte option here, too, but we didn't 
get it for our rental house.  We're thinking about it for our permanent home, 
which we'll be moving into in July.  Good to know the limits of the Airport.  I 
was wondering what its cut-off point was.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jun 10, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Scott Granados 
<scott.grana...@gmail.com<mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Ah I love being on a fiber network.  They just rolled out full gigabit where I 
live and I upgraded while cutting my bill in half.  I have so much on WiFi now 
that I really do need a distributed system.  Your airport is good up to about 
200 megabits.  If your service will be faster than that it’s time to update.




On Jun 10, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Donna Goodin 
<doniado...@me.com<mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:

Thanks for sharing this, Scott.  Now that I have the option of a fast fiber 
connection, I've been wondering if it's time to replace our airport extreme.  
this sounds like an interesting option.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jun 10, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Scott Granados 
<scott.grana...@gmail.com<mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Simon,

The way it seems to work is you connect via 1 or 2 gigabit ports to your 
network.  Either by placing the master unit in router mode and having it handle 
the whole internet connection or in bridge mode where it provides the access 
point function but you provide your own routing hardware.  (This will be my 
config). Once connected you start an app on your phone (iPhone in my case but 
both platforms are supported) and you configure the first plume device.  Then 
you power up and add each new device to the mesh.  You don’t run physical wires 
to anything but the controller or master access point.  The rest use backhaul 
channels to build the mesh.  Once you’ve added all the access points you want, 
you get a box of 6 for $320 US, they connect to a cloud application where the 
mesh starts to optimize itself.  The meshes can either direct connect back to 
the control access point and or hop from one to another if that’s more optimal. 
 The cloud software and access points will steer the clients to the best 
frequency and access point based on it’s location with in the mesh.  IF 2.4 ghz 
suddenly becomes more speedy you’ll drop to 2.4 and then be steered back up to 
5 ghz if that returns to normal.  Also uses tactics to isolate you from your 
neighbors and so forth.  Cool stuff.  Google is also working in this space as 
is Netgear and Niro.  Plume seems to rate the highest and perform the best in 
testing from the reviews I’ve read though.

Cool stuff.  Mesh WiFi was usually the stuff of big enterprises, nice to have 
it in the home now.

On Jun 10, 2017, at 2:34 AM, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Scott,

When You test drive these blume wifi devices I’m interested to know how they go

They sound bloody interesting

I’m wondering though how you get them connected to your network.

Cheers,


Simon f


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RE: Blume Wifi

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah that I understand but the actual quality of it once it’s up and working is 
what I’m looking for.

The mesh networking idea as you say has been around for a while but putting it 
in the home will make life easy for full coverage.

But I was wondering how you power the repeaters or units around the house,
Does each one need to be plugged in to a power socket?

I’m kind of wondering if this might be a problem solver for my place and my 
neighbours to allow us to share an internet connection therefore me make some 
extra cash each month.


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Sunday, 11 June 2017 12:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blume Wifi

Hi Simon,

The way it seems to work is you connect via 1 or 2 gigabit ports to your 
network.  Either by placing the master unit in router mode and having it handle 
the whole internet connection or in bridge mode where it provides the access 
point function but you provide your own routing hardware.  (This will be my 
config). Once connected you start an app on your phone (iPhone in my case but 
both platforms are supported) and you configure the first plume device.  Then 
you power up and add each new device to the mesh.  You don’t run physical wires 
to anything but the controller or master access point.  The rest use backhaul 
channels to build the mesh.  Once you’ve added all the access points you want, 
you get a box of 6 for $320 US, they connect to a cloud application where the 
mesh starts to optimize itself.  The meshes can either direct connect back to 
the control access point and or hop from one to another if that’s more optimal. 
 The cloud software and access points will steer the clients to the best 
frequency and access point based on it’s location with in the mesh.  IF 2.4 ghz 
suddenly becomes more speedy you’ll drop to 2.4 and then be steered back up to 
5 ghz if that returns to normal.  Also uses tactics to isolate you from your 
neighbors and so forth.  Cool stuff.  Google is also working in this space as 
is Netgear and Niro.  Plume seems to rate the highest and perform the best in 
testing from the reviews I’ve read though.

Cool stuff.  Mesh WiFi was usually the stuff of big enterprises, nice to have 
it in the home now.

On Jun 10, 2017, at 2:34 AM, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Scott,

When You test drive these blume wifi devices I’m interested to know how they go

They sound bloody interesting

I’m wondering though how you get them connected to your network.

Cheers,


Simon f


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[gary-melconian]

After I did my gigabit upgrade from att . I got some eenterprise routers based 
of of lots of googling. Also will be interested in the plum set up as well.  

 

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On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 1:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blume Wifi

 

Hey Scot,

 

Yeah, it's pretty cool.  We have the gigabyte option here, too, but we didn't 
get it for our rental house.  We're thinking about it for our permanent home, 
which we'll be moving into in July.  Good to know the limits of the Airport.  I 
was wondering what its cut-off point was.

Cheers,

Donna

 

On Jun 10, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com 
<mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Ah I love being on a fiber network.  They just rolled out full gigabit where I 
live and I upgraded while cutting my bill in half.  I have so much on WiFi now 
that I really do need a distributed system.  Your airport is good up to about 
200 megabits.  If your service will be faster than that it’s time to update.

 

 

 

 

On Jun 10, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com 
<mailto:doniado...@me.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks for sharing this, Scott.  Now that I have the option of a fast fiber 
connection, I've been wondering if it's time to replace our airport extreme.  
this sounds like an interesting option.

Cheers,

Donna

 

On Jun 10, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com 
<mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Simon,

 

The way it seems to work is you connect via 1 or 2 gigabit ports to your 
network.  Either by placing the master unit in router mode and having it handle 
the whole internet connection or in bridge mode where it provides the access 
point function but you provide your own routing hardware.  (This will be my 
config). Once connected you start an app on your phone (iPhone in my case but 
both platforms are supported) and you configure the first plume device.  Then 
you power up and add each new device to the mesh.  You don’t run physical wires 
to anything but the controller or master access point.  The rest use backhaul 
channels to build the mesh.  Once you’ve added all the access points you want, 
you get a box of 6 for $320 US, they connect to a cloud application where the 
mesh starts to optimize itself.  The meshes can either direct connect back to 
the control access point and or hop from one to another if that’s more optimal. 
 The cloud software and access points will steer the clients to the best 
frequency and access point based on it’s location with in the mesh.  IF 2.4 ghz 
suddenly becomes more speedy you’ll drop to 2.4 and then be steered back up to 
5 ghz if that returns to normal.  Also uses tactics to isolate you from your 
neighbors and so forth.  Cool stuff.  Google is also working in this space as 
is Netgear and Niro.  Plume seems to rate the highest and perform the best in 
testing from the reviews I’ve read though.

 

Cool stuff.  Mesh WiFi was usually the stuff of big enterprises, nice to have 
it in the home now.

 

On Jun 10, 2017, at 2:34 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Scott,

 

When You test drive these blume wifi devices I’m interested to know how they go

 

They sound bloody interesting 

 

I’m wondering though how you get them connected to your network.

 

Cheers,

 

 

Simon f

 

 

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Re: Blume Wifi

[Donna Goodin]

Hey Scot,

Yeah, it's pretty cool.  We have the gigabyte option here, too, but we didn't 
get it for our rental house.  We're thinking about it for our permanent home, 
which we'll be moving into in July.  Good to know the limits of the Airport.  I 
was wondering what its cut-off point was.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jun 10, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Ah I love being on a fiber network.  They just rolled out full gigabit where 
> I live and I upgraded while cutting my bill in half.  I have so much on WiFi 
> now that I really do need a distributed system.  Your airport is good up to 
> about 200 megabits.  If your service will be faster than that it’s time to 
> update.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for sharing this, Scott.  Now that I have the option of a fast fiber 
>> connection, I've been wondering if it's time to replace our airport extreme. 
>>  this sounds like an interesting option.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Scott Granados >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Simon,
>>> 
>>> The way it seems to work is you connect via 1 or 2 gigabit ports to your 
>>> network.  Either by placing the master unit in router mode and having it 
>>> handle the whole internet connection or in bridge mode where it provides 
>>> the access point function but you provide your own routing hardware.  (This 
>>> will be my config). Once connected you start an app on your phone (iPhone 
>>> in my case but both platforms are supported) and you configure the first 
>>> plume device.  Then you power up and add each new device to the mesh.  You 
>>> don’t run physical wires to anything but the controller or master access 
>>> point.  The rest use backhaul channels to build the mesh.  Once you’ve 
>>> added all the access points you want, you get a box of 6 for $320 US, they 
>>> connect to a cloud application where the mesh starts to optimize itself.  
>>> The meshes can either direct connect back to the control access point and 
>>> or hop from one to another if that’s more optimal.  The cloud software and 
>>> access points will steer the clients to the best frequency and access point 
>>> based on it’s location with in the mesh.  IF 2.4 ghz suddenly becomes more 
>>> speedy you’ll drop to 2.4 and then be steered back up to 5 ghz if that 
>>> returns to normal.  Also uses tactics to isolate you from your neighbors 
>>> and so forth.  Cool stuff.  Google is also working in this space as is 
>>> Netgear and Niro.  Plume seems to rate the highest and perform the best in 
>>> testing from the reviews I’ve read though.
>>> 
>>> Cool stuff.  Mesh WiFi was usually the stuff of big enterprises, nice to 
>>> have it in the home now.
>>> 
 On Jun 10, 2017, at 2:34 AM, Simon Fogarty > wrote:
 
 Hi Scott,
  
 When You test drive these blume wifi devices I’m interested to know how 
 they go
  
 They sound bloody interesting 
  
 I’m wondering though how you get them connected to your network.
  
 Cheers,
  
  
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Re: Blume Wifi

[Scott Granados]

Ah I love being on a fiber network.  They just rolled out full gigabit where I 
live and I upgraded while cutting my bill in half.  I have so much on WiFi now 
that I really do need a distributed system.  Your airport is good up to about 
200 megabits.  If your service will be faster than that it’s time to update.




> On Jun 10, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for sharing this, Scott.  Now that I have the option of a fast fiber 
> connection, I've been wondering if it's time to replace our airport extreme.  
> this sounds like an interesting option.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Scott Granados > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Simon,
>> 
>> The way it seems to work is you connect via 1 or 2 gigabit ports to your 
>> network.  Either by placing the master unit in router mode and having it 
>> handle the whole internet connection or in bridge mode where it provides the 
>> access point function but you provide your own routing hardware.  (This will 
>> be my config). Once connected you start an app on your phone (iPhone in my 
>> case but both platforms are supported) and you configure the first plume 
>> device.  Then you power up and add each new device to the mesh.  You don’t 
>> run physical wires to anything but the controller or master access point.  
>> The rest use backhaul channels to build the mesh.  Once you’ve added all the 
>> access points you want, you get a box of 6 for $320 US, they connect to a 
>> cloud application where the mesh starts to optimize itself.  The meshes can 
>> either direct connect back to the control access point and or hop from one 
>> to another if that’s more optimal.  The cloud software and access points 
>> will steer the clients to the best frequency and access point based on it’s 
>> location with in the mesh.  IF 2.4 ghz suddenly becomes more speedy you’ll 
>> drop to 2.4 and then be steered back up to 5 ghz if that returns to normal.  
>> Also uses tactics to isolate you from your neighbors and so forth.  Cool 
>> stuff.  Google is also working in this space as is Netgear and Niro.  Plume 
>> seems to rate the highest and perform the best in testing from the reviews 
>> I’ve read though.
>> 
>> Cool stuff.  Mesh WiFi was usually the stuff of big enterprises, nice to 
>> have it in the home now.
>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2017, at 2:34 AM, Simon Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Scott,
>>> 
>>> When You test drive these blume wifi devices I’m interested to know how 
>>> they go
>>> 
>>> They sound bloody interesting
>>> 
>>> I’m wondering though how you get them connected to your network.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Simon f
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[Donna Goodin]

Thanks for sharing this, Scott.  Now that I have the option of a fast fiber 
connection, I've been wondering if it's time to replace our airport extreme.  
this sounds like an interesting option.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jun 10, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> The way it seems to work is you connect via 1 or 2 gigabit ports to your 
> network.  Either by placing the master unit in router mode and having it 
> handle the whole internet connection or in bridge mode where it provides the 
> access point function but you provide your own routing hardware.  (This will 
> be my config). Once connected you start an app on your phone (iPhone in my 
> case but both platforms are supported) and you configure the first plume 
> device.  Then you power up and add each new device to the mesh.  You don’t 
> run physical wires to anything but the controller or master access point.  
> The rest use backhaul channels to build the mesh.  Once you’ve added all the 
> access points you want, you get a box of 6 for $320 US, they connect to a 
> cloud application where the mesh starts to optimize itself.  The meshes can 
> either direct connect back to the control access point and or hop from one to 
> another if that’s more optimal.  The cloud software and access points will 
> steer the clients to the best frequency and access point based on it’s 
> location with in the mesh.  IF 2.4 ghz suddenly becomes more speedy you’ll 
> drop to 2.4 and then be steered back up to 5 ghz if that returns to normal.  
> Also uses tactics to isolate you from your neighbors and so forth.  Cool 
> stuff.  Google is also working in this space as is Netgear and Niro.  Plume 
> seems to rate the highest and perform the best in testing from the reviews 
> I’ve read though.
> 
> Cool stuff.  Mesh WiFi was usually the stuff of big enterprises, nice to have 
> it in the home now.
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2017, at 2:34 AM, Simon Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>>  
>> When You test drive these blume wifi devices I’m interested to know how they 
>> go
>>  
>> They sound bloody interesting 
>>  
>> I’m wondering though how you get them connected to your network.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
>>  
>> Simon f
>>  
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Re: Blume Wifi

[Scott Granados]

Hi Simon,

The way it seems to work is you connect via 1 or 2 gigabit ports to your 
network.  Either by placing the master unit in router mode and having it handle 
the whole internet connection or in bridge mode where it provides the access 
point function but you provide your own routing hardware.  (This will be my 
config). Once connected you start an app on your phone (iPhone in my case but 
both platforms are supported) and you configure the first plume device.  Then 
you power up and add each new device to the mesh.  You don’t run physical wires 
to anything but the controller or master access point.  The rest use backhaul 
channels to build the mesh.  Once you’ve added all the access points you want, 
you get a box of 6 for $320 US, they connect to a cloud application where the 
mesh starts to optimize itself.  The meshes can either direct connect back to 
the control access point and or hop from one to another if that’s more optimal. 
 The cloud software and access points will steer the clients to the best 
frequency and access point based on it’s location with in the mesh.  IF 2.4 ghz 
suddenly becomes more speedy you’ll drop to 2.4 and then be steered back up to 
5 ghz if that returns to normal.  Also uses tactics to isolate you from your 
neighbors and so forth.  Cool stuff.  Google is also working in this space as 
is Netgear and Niro.  Plume seems to rate the highest and perform the best in 
testing from the reviews I’ve read though.

Cool stuff.  Mesh WiFi was usually the stuff of big enterprises, nice to have 
it in the home now.

> On Jun 10, 2017, at 2:34 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> When You test drive these blume wifi devices I’m interested to know how they 
> go
> 
> They sound bloody interesting
> 
> I’m wondering though how you get them connected to your network.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Simon f
> 
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