RE: GPS Apps
Well not many of them anyway, From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2020 3:52 AM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: GPS Apps Hmm, You don’t know the dead. /A 30 apr. 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>>: Good point, that could be it. As long as the bus driver wasn’t drunk. But you know what it is like to get up close and personal with a bus. I don’t mind living across the road from a cemetery, at least they won’t have parties all night. If they did I’d be keen to go party with them. On 1/05/2020, at 09:02, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Petrus, I hope those folks in the cematary aren’t there because the bus was late? From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2020 9:07 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: GPS Apps Sorry, can’t really help with that one. GPS technology depends on a lot of things. How many GPS signals your phone is picking up to triangulate your position can effect it and I’ve heard that even cloud cover can effect it . Suppose the orientation of your phone and weather you have it in a pocket or not can effect it too, but I just opened the app as I’m sitting inside at my table and it told me that the cemetery and bus stop is 112m to my south which is correct. And it does get updated quite regularly so it c could just be a bug that will get fixed at some point. You can also open the category filter so you can change what it tells you if you don’t want to know about entertainment places and shops and so on. It’s not to bad for a free app.. On 30/04/2020, at 00:27, Paul Hopewell mailto:hopew...@hopewell.org.uk>> wrote: Hello Petrus, Many thanks for the tip on Lazarillo. I took it for a trial run this morning and it worked pretty well.I particularly like it voicing the compass direction in which I am walking. One aspect which puzzles me is that it usually tells me that a named side road is x meters in front of me even when the road in question is just a side road and not a cross road. Occasionally it very helpfully tells me that the side road is to my left or my right. I cannot figure out why it only does this on rare occasions. Any thoughts on this? Many thanks and best regards … Paul Hopewell -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara atcaraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B03CCC2D-47D3-4342-881C-834846F94297%40hopewell.org.uk. Sent from Petrus' MacBook -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/301D54AA-3423-440A-AADB-6A26974A9F83%40gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/301D54AA-3423-440A-AADB-6A26974A9F83%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or conc
Re: GPS Apps
Hmm, You don’t know the dead. /A > 30 apr. 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings : > > Good point, that could be it. As long as the bus driver wasn’t drunk. But you > know what it is like to get up close and personal with a bus. I don’t mind > living across the road from a cemetery, at least they won’t have parties all > night. If they did I’d be keen to go party with them. > >> On 1/05/2020, at 09:02, Simon A Fogarty > <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: >> >> Petrus, >> >> I hope those folks in the cematary aren’t there because the bus was late? >> >> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings >> Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2020 9:07 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: GPS Apps >> >> Sorry, can’t really help with that one. GPS technology depends on a lot of >> things. How many GPS signals your phone is picking up to triangulate your >> position can effect it and I’ve heard that even cloud cover can effect it . >> Suppose the orientation of your phone and weather you have it in a pocket or >> not can effect it too, but I just opened the app as I’m sitting inside at my >> table and it told me that the cemetery and bus stop is 112m to my south >> which is correct. And it does get updated quite regularly so it c could just >> be a bug that will get fixed at some point. You can also open the category >> filter so you can change what it tells you if you don’t want to know about >> entertainment places and shops and so on. >> It’s not to bad for a free app.. >> >> >> On 30/04/2020, at 00:27, Paul Hopewell > <mailto:hopew...@hopewell.org.uk>> wrote: >> >> Hello Petrus, >> Many thanks for the tip on Lazarillo. I took it for a trial run this morning >> and it worked pretty well.I particularly like it voicing the compass >> direction in which I am walking. >> One aspect which puzzles me is that it usually tells me that a named side >> road is x meters in front of me even when the road in question is just a >> side road and not a cross road. Occasionally it very helpfully tells me that >> the side road is to my left or my right. I cannot figure out why it only >> does this on rare occasions. Any thoughts on this? >> Many thanks and best regards … Paul Hopewell >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara atcaraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B03CCC2D-47D3-4342-881C-834846F94297%40hopewell.org.uk >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B03CCC2D-47D3-4342-881C-834846F94297%40hopewell.org.uk>. >> >> Sent from Petrus' MacBook >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at:
RE: GPS Apps
Trust me, I’m extremely cautious Of public transport these days, As for cematarys Yeah lived across the road from one for a few months myself, They never caused any issues or had noisy parties at least hat I could hear. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Friday, 1 May 2020 9:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: GPS Apps Good point, that could be it. As long as the bus driver wasn’t drunk. But you know what it is like to get up close and personal with a bus. I don’t mind living across the road from a cemetery, at least they won’t have parties all night. If they did I’d be keen to go party with them. On 1/05/2020, at 09:02, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Petrus, I hope those folks in the cematary aren’t there because the bus was late? From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2020 9:07 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: GPS Apps Sorry, can’t really help with that one. GPS technology depends on a lot of things. How many GPS signals your phone is picking up to triangulate your position can effect it and I’ve heard that even cloud cover can effect it . Suppose the orientation of your phone and weather you have it in a pocket or not can effect it too, but I just opened the app as I’m sitting inside at my table and it told me that the cemetery and bus stop is 112m to my south which is correct. And it does get updated quite regularly so it c could just be a bug that will get fixed at some point. You can also open the category filter so you can change what it tells you if you don’t want to know about entertainment places and shops and so on. It’s not to bad for a free app.. On 30/04/2020, at 00:27, Paul Hopewell mailto:hopew...@hopewell.org.uk>> wrote: Hello Petrus, Many thanks for the tip on Lazarillo. I took it for a trial run this morning and it worked pretty well.I particularly like it voicing the compass direction in which I am walking. One aspect which puzzles me is that it usually tells me that a named side road is x meters in front of me even when the road in question is just a side road and not a cross road. Occasionally it very helpfully tells me that the side road is to my left or my right. I cannot figure out why it only does this on rare occasions. Any thoughts on this? Many thanks and best regards … Paul Hopewell -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara atcaraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B03CCC2D-47D3-4342-881C-834846F94297%40hopewell.org.uk. Sent from Petrus' MacBook -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/301D54AA-3423-440A-AADB-6A26974A9F83%40gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/301D54AA-3423-440A-AADB-6A26974A9F83%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is importan
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Good point, that could be it. As long as the bus driver wasn’t drunk. But you know what it is like to get up close and personal with a bus. I don’t mind living across the road from a cemetery, at least they won’t have parties all night. If they did I’d be keen to go party with them. > On 1/05/2020, at 09:02, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > > Petrus, > > I hope those folks in the cematary aren’t there because the bus was late? > > From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings > Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2020 9:07 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: GPS Apps > > Sorry, can’t really help with that one. GPS technology depends on a lot of > things. How many GPS signals your phone is picking up to triangulate your > position can effect it and I’ve heard that even cloud cover can effect it . > Suppose the orientation of your phone and weather you have it in a pocket or > not can effect it too, but I just opened the app as I’m sitting inside at my > table and it told me that the cemetery and bus stop is 112m to my south which > is correct. And it does get updated quite regularly so it c could just be a > bug that will get fixed at some point. You can also open the category filter > so you can change what it tells you if you don’t want to know about > entertainment places and shops and so on. > It’s not to bad for a free app.. > > > On 30/04/2020, at 00:27, Paul Hopewell <mailto:hopew...@hopewell.org.uk>> wrote: > > Hello Petrus, > Many thanks for the tip on Lazarillo. I took it for a trial run this morning > and it worked pretty well.I particularly like it voicing the compass > direction in which I am walking. > One aspect which puzzles me is that it usually tells me that a named side > road is x meters in front of me even when the road in question is just a side > road and not a cross road. Occasionally it very helpfully tells me that the > side road is to my left or my right. I cannot figure out why it only does > this on rare occasions. Any thoughts on this? > Many thanks and best regards … Paul Hopewell > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can > reach Cara atcaraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B03CCC2D-47D3-4342-881C-834846F94297%40hopewell.org.uk > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B03CCC2D-47D3-4342-881C-834846F94297%40hopewell.org.uk>. > > Sent from Petrus' MacBook > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can > reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/301D54AA-3423-440A-AADB-6A26974A9F83%40gmail.com > > <h
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Petrus, I hope those folks in the cematary aren’t there because the bus was late? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2020 9:07 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: GPS Apps Sorry, can’t really help with that one. GPS technology depends on a lot of things. How many GPS signals your phone is picking up to triangulate your position can effect it and I’ve heard that even cloud cover can effect it . Suppose the orientation of your phone and weather you have it in a pocket or not can effect it too, but I just opened the app as I’m sitting inside at my table and it told me that the cemetery and bus stop is 112m to my south which is correct. And it does get updated quite regularly so it c could just be a bug that will get fixed at some point. You can also open the category filter so you can change what it tells you if you don’t want to know about entertainment places and shops and so on. It’s not to bad for a free app.. On 30/04/2020, at 00:27, Paul Hopewell mailto:hopew...@hopewell.org.uk>> wrote: Hello Petrus, Many thanks for the tip on Lazarillo. I took it for a trial run this morning and it worked pretty well.I particularly like it voicing the compass direction in which I am walking. One aspect which puzzles me is that it usually tells me that a named side road is x meters in front of me even when the road in question is just a side road and not a cross road. Occasionally it very helpfully tells me that the side road is to my left or my right. I cannot figure out why it only does this on rare occasions. Any thoughts on this? Many thanks and best regards … Paul Hopewell -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B03CCC2D-47D3-4342-881C-834846F94297%40hopewell.org.uk. Sent from Petrus' MacBook -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/301D54AA-3423-440A-AADB-6A26974A9F83%40gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/301D54AA-3423-440A-AADB-6A26974A9F83%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/SYCPR01MB4048D3A12AE132A5228D6C388AAA0%40SYCPR01MB4048.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com.
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I can’t comment on that as I’ve never used Blind squared. > On 30/04/2020, at 10:43, Jessica Moss wrote: > > What’s supposed to be the difference between Lazarillo and blind square? > I’ve used both, and from what I can tell, they seem to be vary similar, other > than one is a free app, and one is a paid app. > >> On Apr 29, 2020, at 6:27 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> I tried Lazarillo in Spain as I was on holiday and it was hopeless. It was >> reporting streets & places in a chaotic way. So I ‘m afraid I’m disappointed >> in this app. >>> On 29 Apr 2020, at 13:27, Paul Hopewell wrote: >>> >>> Hello Petrus, >>> Many thanks for the tip on Lazarillo. I took it for a trial run this >>> morning and it worked pretty well.I particularly like it voicing the >>> compass direction in which I am walking. >>> One aspect which puzzles me is that it usually tells me that a named side >>> road is x meters in front of me even when the road in question is just a >>> side road and not a cross road. Occasionally it very helpfully tells me >>> that the side road is to my left or my right. I cannot figure out why it >>> only does this on rare occasions. Any thoughts on this? >>> Many thanks and best regards … Paul Hopewell >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B03CCC2D-47D3-4342-881C-834846F94297%40hopewell.org.uk. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/6D279136-D560-40BC-BFCD-934FC3F4DFEA%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/92575DFF-AE4C-4ACF-B169-3A5F3D2DE500%40gmail.com. Sent from Petrus' MacBook -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this
Re: GPS Apps
It could have been the fault of the App, but it could have been other factors as well. It depends on where one is to how accurate the info will be, as GPS relies on satellites so the app will try and work with the info it is getting. Also if one is in a city the buildings can effect how much signal your phone will get from the GPS satellites and how many are managing to send a signal to you between the building. Not sure if changing the location on your phone will help either if you are using a GPS app in another country then the one you live in. The lazarillo app certainly isn’t perfect, but it’s not to bad for a free app. > On 30/04/2020, at 10:27, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I tried Lazarillo in Spain as I was on holiday and it was hopeless. It was > reporting streets & places in a chaotic way. So I ‘m afraid I’m disappointed > in this app. >> On 29 Apr 2020, at 13:27, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >> Hello Petrus, >> Many thanks for the tip on Lazarillo. I took it for a trial run this morning >> and it worked pretty well.I particularly like it voicing the compass >> direction in which I am walking. >> One aspect which puzzles me is that it usually tells me that a named side >> road is x meters in front of me even when the road in question is just a >> side road and not a cross road. Occasionally it very helpfully tells me that >> the side road is to my left or my right. I cannot figure out why it only >> does this on rare occasions. Any thoughts on this? >> Many thanks and best regards … Paul Hopewell >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B03CCC2D-47D3-4342-881C-834846F94297%40hopewell.org.uk. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/6D279136-D560-40BC-BFCD-934FC3F4DFEA%40me.com. Sent from Petrus' MacBook -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/BBC41EB0-6153-402D-8130-8F45FE5D92C9%40gmail.com.
Re: GPS Apps
What’s supposed to be the difference between Lazarillo and blind square? I’ve used both, and from what I can tell, they seem to be vary similar, other than one is a free app, and one is a paid app. > On Apr 29, 2020, at 6:27 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I tried Lazarillo in Spain as I was on holiday and it was hopeless. It was > reporting streets & places in a chaotic way. So I ‘m afraid I’m disappointed > in this app. >> On 29 Apr 2020, at 13:27, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >> Hello Petrus, >> Many thanks for the tip on Lazarillo. I took it for a trial run this morning >> and it worked pretty well.I particularly like it voicing the compass >> direction in which I am walking. >> One aspect which puzzles me is that it usually tells me that a named side >> road is x meters in front of me even when the road in question is just a >> side road and not a cross road. Occasionally it very helpfully tells me that >> the side road is to my left or my right. I cannot figure out why it only >> does this on rare occasions. Any thoughts on this? >> Many thanks and best regards … Paul Hopewell >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B03CCC2D-47D3-4342-881C-834846F94297%40hopewell.org.uk. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/6D279136-D560-40BC-BFCD-934FC3F4DFEA%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/92575DFF-AE4C-4ACF-B169-3A5F3D2DE500%40gmail.com.
Re: GPS Apps
I tried Lazarillo in Spain as I was on holiday and it was hopeless. It was reporting streets & places in a chaotic way. So I ‘m afraid I’m disappointed in this app. > On 29 Apr 2020, at 13:27, Paul Hopewell wrote: > > Hello Petrus, > Many thanks for the tip on Lazarillo. I took it for a trial run this morning > and it worked pretty well.I particularly like it voicing the compass > direction in which I am walking. > One aspect which puzzles me is that it usually tells me that a named side > road is x meters in front of me even when the road in question is just a side > road and not a cross road. Occasionally it very helpfully tells me that the > side road is to my left or my right. I cannot figure out why it only does > this on rare occasions. Any thoughts on this? > Many thanks and best regards … Paul Hopewell > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B03CCC2D-47D3-4342-881C-834846F94297%40hopewell.org.uk. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/6D279136-D560-40BC-BFCD-934FC3F4DFEA%40me.com.
Re: GPS Apps
Sorry, can’t really help with that one. GPS technology depends on a lot of things. How many GPS signals your phone is picking up to triangulate your position can effect it and I’ve heard that even cloud cover can effect it . Suppose the orientation of your phone and weather you have it in a pocket or not can effect it too, but I just opened the app as I’m sitting inside at my table and it told me that the cemetery and bus stop is 112m to my south which is correct. And it does get updated quite regularly so it c could just be a bug that will get fixed at some point. You can also open the category filter so you can change what it tells you if you don’t want to know about entertainment places and shops and so on. It’s not to bad for a free app.. > On 30/04/2020, at 00:27, Paul Hopewell wrote: > > Hello Petrus, > Many thanks for the tip on Lazarillo. I took it for a trial run this morning > and it worked pretty well.I particularly like it voicing the compass > direction in which I am walking. > One aspect which puzzles me is that it usually tells me that a named side > road is x meters in front of me even when the road in question is just a side > road and not a cross road. Occasionally it very helpfully tells me that the > side road is to my left or my right. I cannot figure out why it only does > this on rare occasions. Any thoughts on this? > Many thanks and best regards … Paul Hopewell > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B03CCC2D-47D3-4342-881C-834846F94297%40hopewell.org.uk. Sent from Petrus' MacBook -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/301D54AA-3423-440A-AADB-6A26974A9F83%40gmail.com.
RE: GPS Apps
Does tom tom not exist any longer? I use google maps myself but I've never had it work to the level that you have mentioned That isn't of course not to say it wont do what you need. I personally in nz find google maps a better gps option than apples maps. I guess google have put more in downunder. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2020 1:26 AM To: macvisionaries Subject: GPS Apps Hello, I currently use an obsolete version of the Tom Tom App on my iPhone to navigate on my daily walk. When I press the “help me” button this very helpfully say something like “I am on Kingsway between Merdon Avenue 80 yards and Rufus Close 30 yards”. I find this most useful but as it is an obsolete app it will not run for ever and I need to find an alternative. The Apps I have tried like Apple Maps tell me the street name and nearest house number but as our house numbering system in the UK is not always consistent this is not too helpful. Does anyone know of a GPS app which is as helpful as the Tom Tom app? Note that I am not really interested in the nearest shops and so on. Many thanks … Paul Hopewell -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/16565956-54A7-48B9-8221-20C95F6845FE%40hopewell.org.uk. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/SYCPR01MB4048E70F042E52A5082CF9108AAC0%40SYCPR01MB4048.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com.
Re: GPS Apps
Have you tried Lazarillo? I think it is free as well. > On 28/04/2020, at 01:26, Paul Hopewell wrote: > > Hello, > I currently use an obsolete version of the Tom Tom App on my iPhone to > navigate on my daily walk. > When I press the “help me” button this very helpfully say something like “I > am on Kingsway between Merdon Avenue 80 yards and Rufus Close 30 yards”. I > find this most useful but as it is an obsolete app it will not run for ever > and I need to find an alternative. > The Apps I have tried like Apple Maps tell me the street name and nearest > house number but as our house numbering system in the UK is not always > consistent this is not too helpful. > Does anyone know of a GPS app which is as helpful as the Tom Tom app? Note > that I am not really interested in the nearest shops and so on. > Many thanks … Paul Hopewell > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/16565956-54A7-48B9-8221-20C95F6845FE%40hopewell.org.uk. Sent from Petrus' MacBook -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/41F2241F-B5E5-42AA-A9AC-DD8E77C91E67%40gmail.com.
Re: GPS Apps
I wish I could take a look at the source for that app. it might not be all that hard to have the button labels inserted for the on board API. -Eric On Feb 15, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Motion gps drive is good also, the only issue with it is that the search screen has unlabeled buttons, apparently they are working on fixing that, but the app is still useable, and the directions are very good. On Feb 13, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Wow, I like the idea of Garmin but not announcing turn by turn directions when walking is a real limiter. Navigon is starting to sound good, that or Mapquest. On Feb 13, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Kelly Ford wrote: For what it is worth, I was very disappointed in TomTom. I found it difficult to use with VO and found it was not possible to get turn directions i.e. right/left. I regret purchasing that app. I've been pretty impressed with the Mapquest app. Aside from address entry being a bit tedious, the directions have been solid and for free I'm surprised what the app does. Kelly -Original Message- From: Geoff Waaler [mailto:geoff.waa...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 4:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: GPS Apps Greetings, Perhaps those who believe Navigon's interface to be overly abstruse might consider posting which tasks they would like to perform and what steps they tried rather than a general statement lacking specifics that might scare off people who might otherwise find this app very useful. Many of us who have Navigon are scratching our heads since it does not take a technical wizard to ascertain, for example that from the main screen one can locate an address by selecting enter an address, or select: search for a POI to start a business search. VO identifies both of these as buttons. Best regards. Geoff On Feb 12, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Kawal: Call me dense. But, I still think there's too much rocket science involved in making Navigon work. I've gotten discouraged with the number of hoops to jump through, just to get directions somewhere. Or, perhaps I'm just too much of a homebody to make it worth my while to work with. I have a secret notion that only wizards and geniuses can really get anywhere using it.:) Carolyn H http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message
Re: GPS Apps
Dear Geoff, I in the past have tried to make a pedestrian route to the railway station and although I have put my home address in the App already, when it asks where you want to start from, Let's say my house and I select the railway station, I can't seem to get to the next button and it keeps saying that I have to select where I'd like to go from even though my house adress is in there. Kawal. Sent From My I Phone On 14 Feb 2011, at 12:29 AM, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, Perhaps those who believe Navigon's interface to be overly abstruse might consider posting which tasks they would like to perform and what steps they tried rather than a general statement lacking specifics that might scare off people who might otherwise find this app very useful. Many of us who have Navigon are scratching our heads since it does not take a technical wizard to ascertain, for example that from the main screen one can locate an address by selecting enter an address, or select: search for a POI to start a business search. VO identifies both of these as buttons. Best regards. Geoff On Feb 12, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Kawal: Call me dense. But, I still think there's too much rocket science involved in making Navigon work. I've gotten discouraged with the number of hoops to jump through, just to get directions somewhere. Or, perhaps I'm just too much of a homebody to make it worth my while to work with. I have a secret notion that only wizards and geniuses can really get anywhere using it.:) Carolyn H http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hi Carolyn, That is what attracted me to the Garmin app because it is a bit less complicated than Navigon. However, Garmin has a little work to do, but from what I have been reading, maybe they are not all that far off and there seems to be some interest in accessibility. I still find Navigon to be helpful despite the interface, but simplicity is important for sure. Scott On Feb 14, 2011, at 12:47 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi: My opinion is that one has to jump through a lot of hoops to make Navigon work. Sure, if someone wants to simply enter an address, that part would be obvious. But, having to go to speed profile, or route profile, tell it if you're riding a boat or motorcycle, bike or walking, figure out where it thinks you are and so forth all seem like a lot of steps.. In my humbled opinion, a good gps app would have you enter an address you're leaving from, an address you wish to get to, and your mode of travel, and then provide appropriate direction. So, I guess I find Navigon not as simplified as your post implies and think newcomers should be aware of that side as well. So, scratch away, guess I just like things simple.:) Carolyn H On 3, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings, Perhaps those who believe Navigon's interface to be overly abstruse might consider posting which tasks they would like to perform and what steps they tried rather than a general statement lacking specifics that might scare off people who might otherwise find this app very useful. Many of us who have Navigon are scratching our heads since it does not take a technical wizard to ascertain, for example that from the main screen one can locate an address by selecting enter an address, or select: search for a POI to start a business search. VO identifies both of these as buttons. Best regards. Geoff On Feb 12, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Kawal: Call me dense. But, I still think there's too much rocket science involved in making Navigon work. I've gotten discouraged with the number of hoops to jump through, just to get directions somewhere. Or, perhaps I'm just too much of a homebody to make it worth my while to work with. I have a secret notion that only wizards and geniuses can really get anywhere using it.:) Carolyn H http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. --
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Where To, the app is also on sale across the world for Valentines Day only, Feb 14th, 66% off... Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 12 Feb 2011, at 05:27, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings Scott G, Since you mentioned business location I thought I'd mention the $3.00 app named WhereTo? by future tap. It has a list of categories and results which IMHO absolutely puts geo to shame and more over, the business can be seamlessly passed to either Navigon, TomTom or the built in maps app where it launches the preferred helper app and sets the desired POI as the destination I can't speak for Garmet or TomTom, but IMHO the POI location feature in Navigon is okay, but you can only get so many pois into a 1.6 GB app. The URL for WhereTo? in the US app store is: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 Best regards. Geoff On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Scott, I have not had sufficient experience to comment on Garmin. I find that of the few I have tried including Navigon will get you pretty close, within 30 feet. I have seen the interface and liked it a lot and I would like to have someone comment on POIs and if it speaks while in walking mode. My conversation with Garmin was it did not, but I suspect the person I spoke to did not understand what I was asking and was not willing to check it out. Of course not having an actual route to walk, I suspect a lack of a simulation mode might be the problem in that case. Sorry I can't provide more info. Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Scott, could you speak more about the Garmin app and it's features as they relate to a blind user? How is it for walking routes? What sort of features are available. I've used Geo does it have a lot of the business locating features etc? How about the walking maps? Do they tend to put you in the middle of parking lots or do they calculate a little to at least put you on the sidewalk in front of the building? In general, how's the accuracy of the GPS receiver? I hear it's not that great from a sited engineer friend of mine. He designs GPS receivers though so he might be picky. How well do you find it works? Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:46 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Robert, Navigon only receives map updates when the app is updated. If you want the most current maps possible, the Garmin app is the way to go. I have not tried Tom TOm, but I find the Garmin interface to be a bit better than Navigon; however, both apps are quite good. I know the most recent version of the Garmin software apparently includes improvements for accessibility, but not sure what exactly those are. I believe either will meet your needs and it may come down to which interface you prefer and if you can live with the data use of Garmin with the understanding the tradeoff is in more current map data. I again cannot speak about Tom TOm since I have never used it. I think the reason you hear more about Navigon and TOm TOm is simply that both have been around a bit longer on the iOS platform. hth, Scott On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Robert Hooper wrote: Before even getting into the question I wish to ask on this post, let me stop and acknowledge that I am indeed aware of the fact that the word “best”, so often used, is just a four letter word incapable of nearly anything. With that being said, I will be receiving my iPhone tomorrow and wish to fill it full of delicious apps. I would like one of the apps to be a GPS package. At this point, I have arrived at three possible conclusions via friends, this list, and the Applevis web site. I am considering the Garmin app, Navigon, and Tomtom, the latter mainly because I hear it’s accessible and the primary rival to Navigon. What are the benefits for each app? Why should I choose one over the other? I know that the Garmin app doesn’t locally store map information and the maps are constantly updated as well as traffic and weather information. How does Navigon compete with this? Are there updates to Navigon’s maps? Does it provide the same type of information? And what of Tomtom? Does it store maps locally or are they accessed remotely like Garmin? Another reason I am undecided is that Garmin looks the most impressive, yet it is only ever Tomtom and Navigon about which I hear—so is there some drawback to Garmin which prevents it from competing on the same level? I read on the Applevis web site that Garmin is very accessible, as well as Navigon. Any information is welcome—if I have to have multiple solutions, I guess
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Hi Neil and Others, Where To? by FutureTap is certainly worth the $0.99 (U.S.) Valentine's Day sale price. It was the first of the helper applications for GPS points of interest (in the same class as the free AroundMe app by Tweaker Soft) to add the capability to send results to GPS apps such as Navigon and TomTom, as well as to the default Maps app. AroundMe only added this feature later. As Geoff described, the primary difference between Where To? and AroundMe is the more detailed divisions of categories and sub-categories for Where To? This can make it easier to locate specific points of interest more quickly -- for example, Geoff gave the example of restaurant food sub-categories. Also, the feature access can be set up differently. Here's an example of where I'd use Where To? in preference to AroundMe (and where Navigon's POIs falls short). For my location, Navigon doesn't bring up any bus stops among the public transport POIs, although these are easily found in the Maps app. In AroundMe, I have to type in bus stops into the search field, and I'll be presented with a list of matches ordered roughly (but not exactly) by distance. In Where To? if I first double tap on Travel and Transportation and then double tap on Public Transport, and the bus stops will be exactly ordered by distance. Moreover, I can double tap the next menu or previous menu buttons and be taken to the next or previous menu in the list, and the page for each stop has a link to the web home page that shows the next bus scheduled arrival time. This is not available through AroundMe. The point here is merely to show that the Where To? app can provide information that is different from, or complementary to what you get from AroundMe. Where To? is also an international app, and with both AroundMe and Where To? it is possible to search for points of interest in different locations. For example, after selecting search categories, double tap the Search button in the top right corner of the screen, and then enter either the postal code or the name of the city into the search field and double tap the Search button at the bottom right of the virtual keyboard. (If you use a Bluetooth keyboard, just press the Enter key to start the search.) Your search results will come up for the postal code or address you entered in the search field. (Note that this works for zip codes in the U.S. and postal codes in the U.K., but not for lengthy French postal codes -- you have to type in a more complete address.) To return the search to your present location, double tap the Start Tracking button in the bottom left corner of the screen. Since Neil is in the U.K., I'll just mention that a check of a U.K. location brought up reasonable search results (though I can't verify how up to date the entries are, if there are recent changes.) This app has been used by U.K. members on other lists. I'll also mention that I've never understood why the Navigon MobileNavigator app for Great Britain requires a separate in-app purchase for searches by postal code (or the use of a dedicated third party app for this), when it's simple to enter the postal code in AroundMe or Where To? and then send the address location to Navigon. As Geoff noted, the URL in the App Store for Where To? is: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 14, 2011, at 06:33, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Where To, the app is also on sale across the world for Valentines Day only, Feb 14th, 66% off... Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 12 Feb 2011, at 05:27, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings Scott G, Since you mentioned business location I thought I'd mention the $3.00 app named WhereTo? by future tap. It has a list of categories and results which IMHO absolutely puts geo to shame and more over, the business can be seamlessly passed to either Navigon, TomTom or the built in maps app where it launches the preferred helper app and sets the desired POI as the destination I can't speak for Garmet or TomTom, but IMHO the POI location feature in Navigon is okay, but you can only get so many pois into a 1.6 GB app. The URL for WhereTo? in the US app store is: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 Best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
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Hi everyone, I just purchased Where to? My first concern is there is a message selling 3D that gets in the way. I can't find a way to dismiss it. The message says the window will be skipped after purchasing. If I purchase the 3D just to get rid of the message, do you think the 3D will mess with VoiceOver? I also have a question about the Bus stops. I'm able to find the stops just fine, but I'm not able to get additional information on bus times. When I tap on the more information button, I seem to just get the stop labeled as a map pin. I don't appear to get more information by double tapping the map pin. I'm not seeing the Next Transport option Esther mentioned. I'm also not seeing the next or previous menu mentioned. I'm wondering if the 3D sales pitch is getting in the way. I usually do quite well at figuring apps out, but I'm a little stumped here. Brett C. On Feb 14, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Neil and Others, Where To? by FutureTap is certainly worth the $0.99 (U.S.) Valentine's Day sale price. It was the first of the helper applications for GPS points of interest (in the same class as the free AroundMe app by Tweaker Soft) to add the capability to send results to GPS apps such as Navigon and TomTom, as well as to the default Maps app. AroundMe only added this feature later. As Geoff described, the primary difference between Where To? and AroundMe is the more detailed divisions of categories and sub-categories for Where To? This can make it easier to locate specific points of interest more quickly -- for example, Geoff gave the example of restaurant food sub-categories. Also, the feature access can be set up differently. Here's an example of where I'd use Where To? in preference to AroundMe (and where Navigon's POIs falls short). For my location, Navigon doesn't bring up any bus stops among the public transport POIs, although these are easily found in the Maps app. In AroundMe, I have to type in bus stops into the search field, and I'll be presented with a list of matches ordered roughly (but not exactly) by distance. In Where To? if I first double tap on Travel and Transportation and then double tap on Public Transport, and the bus stops will be exactly ordered by distance. Moreover, I can double tap the next menu or previous menu buttons and be taken to the next or previous menu in the list, and the page for each stop has a link to the web home page that shows the next bus scheduled arrival time. This is not available through AroundMe. The point here is merely to show that the Where To? app can provide information that is different from, or complementary to what you get from AroundMe. Where To? is also an international app, and with both AroundMe and Where To? it is possible to search for points of interest in different locations. For example, after selecting search categories, double tap the Search button in the top right corner of the screen, and then enter either the postal code or the name of the city into the search field and double tap the Search button at the bottom right of the virtual keyboard. (If you use a Bluetooth keyboard, just press the Enter key to start the search.) Your search results will come up for the postal code or address you entered in the search field. (Note that this works for zip codes in the U.S. and postal codes in the U.K., but not for lengthy French postal codes -- you have to type in a more complete address.) To return the search to your present location, double tap the Start Tracking button in the bottom left corner of the screen. Since Neil is in the U.K., I'll just mention that a check of a U.K. location brought up reasonable search results (though I can't verify how up to date the entries are, if there are recent changes.) This app has been used by U.K. members on other lists. I'll also mention that I've never understood why the Navigon MobileNavigator app for Great Britain requires a separate in-app purchase for searches by postal code (or the use of a dedicated third party app for this), when it's simple to enter the postal code in AroundMe or Where To? and then send the address location to Navigon. As Geoff noted, the URL in the App Store for Where To? is: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 14, 2011, at 06:33, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Where To, the app is also on sale across the world for Valentines Day only, Feb 14th, 66% off... Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 12 Feb 2011, at 05:27, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings Scott G, Since
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Hi Brett, The 3D is a brand-new feature, and I'm not sure that it's accessible with VoiceOver. My understanding is that it uses the camera and superposes the letters for the search results on the field, with larger letters for closer matches. I think it's a visual only feature -- the idea is that if you hold your iPhone with camera up in different directions, you'll see the locations of nearby POI matches in the direction that they lie, with the matches that are closer in bigger fonts. So, if you're trying to find out which direction to walk in, you'd view the words for the match of a particular POI in that direction as you move your iPhone around, and you can tap on the entry to find more information. I don't think this is usable with VoiceOver if you don't have vision. You have to remember that I'm using Where To? on an iPod Touch or iPad -- without a camera. So these options don't come up for me. Also, whether you get links to public transportation web pages may depend on your location. This is just how it works for me. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 14, 2011, at 10:42, Brett Campbell wrote: Hi everyone, I just purchased Where to? My first concern is there is a message selling 3D that gets in the way. I can't find a way to dismiss it. The message says the window will be skipped after purchasing. If I purchase the 3D just to get rid of the message, do you think the 3D will mess with VoiceOver? I also have a question about the Bus stops. I'm able to find the stops just fine, but I'm not able to get additional information on bus times. When I tap on the more information button, I seem to just get the stop labeled as a map pin. I don't appear to get more information by double tapping the map pin. I'm not seeing the Next Transport option Esther mentioned. I'm also not seeing the next or previous menu mentioned. I'm wondering if the 3D sales pitch is getting in the way. I usually do quite well at figuring apps out, but I'm a little stumped here. Brett C. On Feb 14, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Neil and Others, Where To? by FutureTap is certainly worth the $0.99 (U.S.) Valentine's Day sale price. It was the first of the helper applications for GPS points of interest (in the same class as the free AroundMe app by Tweaker Soft) to add the capability to send results to GPS apps such as Navigon and TomTom, as well as to the default Maps app. AroundMe only added this feature later. As Geoff described, the primary difference between Where To? and AroundMe is the more detailed divisions of categories and sub-categories for Where To? This can make it easier to locate specific points of interest more quickly -- for example, Geoff gave the example of restaurant food sub-categories. Also, the feature access can be set up differently. Here's an example of where I'd use Where To? in preference to AroundMe (and where Navigon's POIs falls short). For my location, Navigon doesn't bring up any bus stops among the public transport POIs, although these are easily found in the Maps app. In AroundMe, I have to type in bus stops into the search field, and I'll be presented with a list of matches ordered roughly (but not exactly) by distance. In Where To? if I first double tap on Travel and Transportation and then double tap on Public Transport, and the bus stops will be exactly ordered by distance. Moreover, I can double tap the next menu or previous menu buttons and be taken to the next or previous menu in the list, and the page for each stop has a link to the web home page that shows the next bus scheduled arrival time. This is not available through AroundMe. The point here is merely to show that the Where To? app can provide information that is different from, or complementary to what you get from AroundMe. Where To? is also an international app, and with both AroundMe and Where To? it is possible to search for points of interest in different locations. For example, after selecting search categories, double tap the Search button in the top right corner of the screen, and then enter either the postal code or the name of the city into the search field and double tap the Search button at the bottom right of the virtual keyboard. (If you use a Bluetooth keyboard, just press the Enter key to start the search.) Your search results will come up for the postal code or address you entered in the search field. (Note that this works for zip codes in the U.S. and postal codes in the U.K., but not for lengthy French postal codes -- you have to type in a more complete address.) To return the search to your present location, double tap the Start Tracking button in the bottom left corner of the screen. Since Neil is in the U.K., I'll just mention that a check of a U.K. location brought up reasonable search results (though I can't verify how up to date the entries
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hi kelly Mapquest where can i i searched the app store but got nothing. any link to download it from? best On 14 Feb 2011, at 00:59, Kelly Ford wrote: For what it is worth, I was very disappointed in TomTom. I found it difficult to use with VO and found it was not possible to get turn directions i.e. right/left. I regret purchasing that app. I've been pretty impressed with the Mapquest app. Aside from address entry being a bit tedious, the directions have been solid and for free I'm surprised what the app does. Kelly -Original Message- From: Geoff Waaler [mailto:geoff.waa...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 4:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: GPS Apps Greetings, Perhaps those who believe Navigon's interface to be overly abstruse might consider posting which tasks they would like to perform and what steps they tried rather than a general statement lacking specifics that might scare off people who might otherwise find this app very useful. Many of us who have Navigon are scratching our heads since it does not take a technical wizard to ascertain, for example that from the main screen one can locate an address by selecting enter an address, or select: search for a POI to start a business search. VO identifies both of these as buttons. Best regards. Geoff On Feb 12, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Kawal: Call me dense. But, I still think there's too much rocket science involved in making Navigon work. I've gotten discouraged with the number of hoops to jump through, just to get directions somewhere. Or, perhaps I'm just too much of a homebody to make it worth my while to work with. I have a secret notion that only wizards and geniuses can really get anywhere using it.:) Carolyn H http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from
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Thanks I'll do that. On 13 Feb 2011, at 02:59, Tom Frank wrote: Hello Kawal, Remember to double tap every time Navigon puts you into a new edit field. That means the city, street and number. It's kind of annoying but that's VO as far as I know it. Tom Frank vermont...@gmail.com On Feb 12, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Geoff. I don't know if you are using Navigon a lot, but I do have problems with it in that if I try and search for an address by putting in all the relevant information, it won't accept the details as sometimes Voice Over won't go into the edit boxes. Have you or anyone else had that problem? I'm still using GEO. I just wish Navigon spoke where you were automatically as you have to do a lot of flicking whereas GEO just tells you where you are which I find very important if I'm travelling independently on the busses. If I could get Navigon to accept my information then I'd be OK with it. Kawal. On 12 Feb 2011, at 06:57, Scott Granados wrote: This is a great pointer! Really, thank you I'm going to give this a shot. I recently regained my interest in GPS because I'm up in San Francisco so frequently now and there is very solid public transportation up there. I generally cheat and take cabs or have my assistant come up for big projects but I'm trying to expand my boundaries. Pushing one's limits and all that sort of thing. I'm interested in anything on this topic so I hope it continues. Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings Scott G, Since you mentioned business location I thought I'd mention the $3.00 app named WhereTo? by future tap. It has a list of categories and results which IMHO absolutely puts geo to shame and more over, the business can be seamlessly passed to either Navigon, TomTom or the built in maps app where it launches the preferred helper app and sets the desired POI as the destination I can't speak for Garmet or TomTom, but IMHO the POI location feature in Navigon is okay, but you can only get so many pois into a 1.6 GB app. The URL for WhereTo? in the US app store is: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 Best regards. Geoff On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Scott, I have not had sufficient experience to comment on Garmin. I find that of the few I have tried including Navigon will get you pretty close, within 30 feet. I have seen the interface and liked it a lot and I would like to have someone comment on POIs and if it speaks while in walking mode. My conversation with Garmin was it did not, but I suspect the person I spoke to did not understand what I was asking and was not willing to check it out. Of course not having an actual route to walk, I suspect a lack of a simulation mode might be the problem in that case. Sorry I can't provide more info. Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Scott, could you speak more about the Garmin app and it's features as they relate to a blind user? How is it for walking routes? What sort of features are available. I've used Geo does it have a lot of the business locating features etc? How about the walking maps? Do they tend to put you in the middle of parking lots or do they calculate a little to at least put you on the sidewalk in front of the building? In general, how's the accuracy of the GPS receiver? I hear it's not that great from a sited engineer friend of mine. He designs GPS receivers though so he might be picky. How well do you find it works? Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:46 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Robert, Navigon only receives map updates when the app is updated. If you want the most current maps possible, the Garmin app is the way to go. I have not tried Tom TOm, but I find the Garmin interface to be a bit better than Navigon; however, both apps are quite good. I know the most recent version of the Garmin software apparently includes improvements for accessibility, but not sure what exactly those are. I believe either will meet your needs and it may come down to which interface you prefer and if you can live with the data use of Garmin with the understanding the tradeoff is in more current map data. I again cannot speak about Tom TOm since I have never used it. I think the reason you hear more about Navigon and TOm TOm is simply that both have been around a bit longer on the iOS platform. hth, Scott On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Robert Hooper wrote: Before even getting into the question I wish to ask on this post, let me stop and acknowledge that I am indeed aware of the fact that the word “best”, so often used, is just a four letter word incapable of nearly anything. With that being said, I will be receiving my iPhone tomorrow and wish to fill it full of delicious apps. I
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Greetings, Perhaps those who believe Navigon's interface to be overly abstruse might consider posting which tasks they would like to perform and what steps they tried rather than a general statement lacking specifics that might scare off people who might otherwise find this app very useful. Many of us who have Navigon are scratching our heads since it does not take a technical wizard to ascertain, for example that from the main screen one can locate an address by selecting enter an address, or select: search for a POI to start a business search. VO identifies both of these as buttons. Best regards. Geoff On Feb 12, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Kawal: Call me dense. But, I still think there's too much rocket science involved in making Navigon work. I've gotten discouraged with the number of hoops to jump through, just to get directions somewhere. Or, perhaps I'm just too much of a homebody to make it worth my while to work with. I have a secret notion that only wizards and geniuses can really get anywhere using it.:) Carolyn H http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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For what it is worth, I was very disappointed in TomTom. I found it difficult to use with VO and found it was not possible to get turn directions i.e. right/left. I regret purchasing that app. I've been pretty impressed with the Mapquest app. Aside from address entry being a bit tedious, the directions have been solid and for free I'm surprised what the app does. Kelly -Original Message- From: Geoff Waaler [mailto:geoff.waa...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 4:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: GPS Apps Greetings, Perhaps those who believe Navigon's interface to be overly abstruse might consider posting which tasks they would like to perform and what steps they tried rather than a general statement lacking specifics that might scare off people who might otherwise find this app very useful. Many of us who have Navigon are scratching our heads since it does not take a technical wizard to ascertain, for example that from the main screen one can locate an address by selecting enter an address, or select: search for a POI to start a business search. VO identifies both of these as buttons. Best regards. Geoff On Feb 12, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Kawal: Call me dense. But, I still think there's too much rocket science involved in making Navigon work. I've gotten discouraged with the number of hoops to jump through, just to get directions somewhere. Or, perhaps I'm just too much of a homebody to make it worth my while to work with. I have a secret notion that only wizards and geniuses can really get anywhere using it.:) Carolyn H http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Wow, I like the idea of Garmin but not announcing turn by turn directions when walking is a real limiter. Navigon is starting to sound good, that or Mapquest. On Feb 13, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Kelly Ford wrote: For what it is worth, I was very disappointed in TomTom. I found it difficult to use with VO and found it was not possible to get turn directions i.e. right/left. I regret purchasing that app. I've been pretty impressed with the Mapquest app. Aside from address entry being a bit tedious, the directions have been solid and for free I'm surprised what the app does. Kelly -Original Message- From: Geoff Waaler [mailto:geoff.waa...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 4:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: GPS Apps Greetings, Perhaps those who believe Navigon's interface to be overly abstruse might consider posting which tasks they would like to perform and what steps they tried rather than a general statement lacking specifics that might scare off people who might otherwise find this app very useful. Many of us who have Navigon are scratching our heads since it does not take a technical wizard to ascertain, for example that from the main screen one can locate an address by selecting enter an address, or select: search for a POI to start a business search. VO identifies both of these as buttons. Best regards. Geoff On Feb 12, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Kawal: Call me dense. But, I still think there's too much rocket science involved in making Navigon work. I've gotten discouraged with the number of hoops to jump through, just to get directions somewhere. Or, perhaps I'm just too much of a homebody to make it worth my while to work with. I have a secret notion that only wizards and geniuses can really get anywhere using it.:) Carolyn H http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email
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Folks - Here's another GPS App to consider if you're in the US or Canada: MotionX GPS Drive. I've been evaluating it and am very impressed so far. The initial review on Applevis, posted last August, says this App was inaccessible at that time, but the version I'm testing, version 9.1 released on 10 February 2011, is very accessible and has the following two important features I think make it stand out at the moment: 1. The current version of this App gives automatically spoken turn-by-turn directions when walking, with no reaching in the pocket, tapping the screen, shaking the phone, or any other sort of interaction required. In my testing, whenever I reached an intersection, the App automatically said something like, turn right on happy pleasant lane. The voice, BTW, is the lovely Acapella Heather. And when I intentionally walked past my turn, she said recalculating route and when I reached the next intersection she correctly stated, now turn right on nasty dog wandering loose road. 2. Like Garmin's StreetPilot, this app uses Navteq cloud based maps, However, with MotionX you can pre-load maps when planning your route, something you cannot currently do with StreetPilot. You can select the amount of storage space to use, from 256 MB up to 2 GB, and there is an accessible meter telling how much storage you've used. There's also a button to clear the cached maps. When you choose to pre-load maps, there is an accessible progress indicator. Thus you can pre-load maps while wi-fi connected to help minimize cellular data usage and in addition you will still theoretically be receiving directions on your trip even if you've lost your cellular data connection. Also, when you choose to pre-load your maps you have a choice to listen to a simulation of your route. This is spoken just as if you were en route, including the time between turns, and while there is a setting to run the simulation at 8x, I've been unable to find a way to manually force the simulation to move to the next turn. The App does have it's share of issues. Here are a few of the ones I consider most important: 1. While most controls and labels are accessible and properly labeled, there are a few exceptions. Most buttons on the Search page are not labeled, but fortunately you can work around this by using the Go To page instead, which has well labeled buttons and, as far as I can tell, allows you to perform all of the same functions found in the Search page. 2. There are inconsistencies in the labeling and manipulation of some of the radio buttons, switch buttons, and check boxes. While I did not find any that couldn't easily be figured out, it takes a bit of patience. 3. The button in the top left corner of every screen is labeled button ondemand up. If you double-tap it will either tell you to select a destination or tell you the current segment of your trip. 4. While VO is able to read almost everything on the directions list screen, VO is unable to read the part that tells you which way to turn. There is a little graphic of an arrow pointing left or right, but VO is not able to read them. 5. I'm not sure how good or bad the POI database is just yet. The default list of POI around my home address was severely lacking. However, when I searched for POI and entered my address manually, I got much better results. 6. While the main menu and many of the sub-menus are well laid out, there are some screens that seem jumbled and slightly confusing to navigate with VO. 7. There are some other minor glitches but overall I think this App is worth a look. I will be continuing to use this App and will add to my comments posted to the Applevis site. HTH, Bryan Interestingly, MotionX GPS Drive is currently the top Paid App in the Navigation section of the US App Store. I don't know if that means top rated or top selling, but that's how I stumbled on it. The pricing scheme is a bit different from others I've seen. The initial purchase price for the general IOS version is US 99 cents. There is also an iPad specific version called MotionX GPS Drive HD for US $2.99. The initial purchase price buys you the full app with visual navigation and a 30 day trial of what they call live voice guidance which means spoken turn-by-turn navigation. According to MotionX's literature, the way they make their money and pay for the navteq maps is by charging for the live voice guidance. After the 30 day trial runs out, you can purchase monthly for $2.99 or yearly for $19.99. On Feb 13, 2011, at 9:47 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Wow, I like the idea of Garmin but not announcing turn by turn directions when walking is a real limiter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group
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Here's the Us App Store link, or search for motionx to find both this general ios version as well as the ipad specific version. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/motionx-gps-drive/id328095974?mt=8 Folks - Here's another GPS App to consider if you're in the US or Canada: MotionX GPS Drive. I've been evaluating it and am very impressed so far. The initial review on Applevis, posted last August, says this App was inaccessible at that time, but the version I'm testing, version 9.1 released on 10 February 2011, is very accessible and has the following two important features I think make it stand out at the moment: 1. The current version of this App gives automatically spoken turn-by-turn directions when walking, with no reaching in the pocket, tapping the screen, shaking the phone, or any other sort of interaction required. In my testing, whenever I reached an intersection, the App automatically said something like, turn right on happy pleasant lane. The voice, BTW, is the lovely Acapella Heather. And when I intentionally walked past my turn, she said recalculating route and when I reached the next intersection she correctly stated, now turn right on nasty dog wandering loose road. 2. Like Garmin's StreetPilot, this app uses Navteq cloud based maps, However, with MotionX you can pre-load maps when planning your route, something you cannot currently do with StreetPilot. You can select the amount of storage space to use, from 256 MB up to 2 GB, and there is an accessible meter telling how much storage you've used. There's also a button to clear the cached maps. When you choose to pre-load maps, there is an accessible progress indicator. Thus you can pre-load maps while wi-fi connected to help minimize cellular data usage and in addition you will still theoretically be receiving directions on your trip even if you've lost your cellular data connection. Also, when you choose to pre-load your maps you have a choice to listen to a simulation of your route. This is spoken just as if you were en route, including the time between turns, and while there is a setting to run the simulation at 8x, I've been unable to find a way to manually force the simulation to move to the next turn. The App does have it's share of issues. Here are a few of the ones I consider most important: 1. While most controls and labels are accessible and properly labeled, there are a few exceptions. Most buttons on the Search page are not labeled, but fortunately you can work around this by using the Go To page instead, which has well labeled buttons and, as far as I can tell, allows you to perform all of the same functions found in the Search page. 2. There are inconsistencies in the labeling and manipulation of some of the radio buttons, switch buttons, and check boxes. While I did not find any that couldn't easily be figured out, it takes a bit of patience. 3. The button in the top left corner of every screen is labeled button ondemand up. If you double-tap it will either tell you to select a destination or tell you the current segment of your trip. 4. While VO is able to read almost everything on the directions list screen, VO is unable to read the part that tells you which way to turn. There is a little graphic of an arrow pointing left or right, but VO is not able to read them. 5. I'm not sure how good or bad the POI database is just yet. The default list of POI around my home address was severely lacking. However, when I searched for POI and entered my address manually, I got much better results. 6. While the main menu and many of the sub-menus are well laid out, there are some screens that seem jumbled and slightly confusing to navigate with VO. 7. There are some other minor glitches but overall I think this App is worth a look. I will be continuing to use this App and will add to my comments posted to the Applevis site. HTH, Bryan Interestingly, MotionX GPS Drive is currently the top Paid App in the Navigation section of the US App Store. I don't know if that means top rated or top selling, but that's how I stumbled on it. The pricing scheme is a bit different from others I've seen. The initial purchase price for the general IOS version is US 99 cents. There is also an iPad specific version called MotionX GPS Drive HD for US $2.99. The initial purchase price buys you the full app with visual navigation and a 30 day trial of what they call live voice guidance which means spoken turn-by-turn navigation. According to MotionX's literature, the way they make their money and pay for the navteq maps is by charging for the live voice guidance. After the 30 day trial runs out, you can purchase monthly for $2.99 or yearly for $19.99. On Feb 13, 2011, at 9:47 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Wow, I like the idea of Garmin but not announcing turn by turn directions when walking is a real limiter. -- You received this
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Hi: My opinion is that one has to jump through a lot of hoops to make Navigon work. Sure, if someone wants to simply enter an address, that part would be obvious. But, having to go to speed profile, or route profile, tell it if you're riding a boat or motorcycle, bike or walking, figure out where it thinks you are and so forth all seem like a lot of steps.. In my humbled opinion, a good gps app would have you enter an address you're leaving from, an address you wish to get to, and your mode of travel, and then provide appropriate direction. So, I guess I find Navigon not as simplified as your post implies and think newcomers should be aware of that side as well. So, scratch away, guess I just like things simple.:) Carolyn H On 3, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings, Perhaps those who believe Navigon's interface to be overly abstruse might consider posting which tasks they would like to perform and what steps they tried rather than a general statement lacking specifics that might scare off people who might otherwise find this app very useful. Many of us who have Navigon are scratching our heads since it does not take a technical wizard to ascertain, for example that from the main screen one can locate an address by selecting enter an address, or select: search for a POI to start a business search. VO identifies both of these as buttons. Best regards. Geoff On Feb 12, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Kawal: Call me dense. But, I still think there's too much rocket science involved in making Navigon work. I've gotten discouraged with the number of hoops to jump through, just to get directions somewhere. Or, perhaps I'm just too much of a homebody to make it worth my while to work with. I have a secret notion that only wizards and geniuses can really get anywhere using it.:) Carolyn H http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To
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Or by contrast compared to the 5 dollar lookaround app by sendero? Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-02-12, at 2:28 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi Geoff, I've never used where to. I use around me for my POI needs. I was wondering if you've used around me, and if so, could you compare and contrast the two apps a bit? Around me is free and I find it to be pretty good. I was wondering what one would get for their $3 for where to. Thanks. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Feb 12, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings Scott G, Since you mentioned business location I thought I'd mention the $3.00 app named WhereTo? by future tap. It has a list of categories and results which IMHO absolutely puts geo to shame and more over, the business can be seamlessly passed to either Navigon, TomTom or the built in maps app where it launches the preferred helper app and sets the desired POI as the destination I can't speak for Garmet or TomTom, but IMHO the POI location feature in Navigon is okay, but you can only get so many pois into a 1.6 GB app. The URL for WhereTo? in the US app store is: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 Best regards. Geoff On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Scott, I have not had sufficient experience to comment on Garmin. I find that of the few I have tried including Navigon will get you pretty close, within 30 feet. I have seen the interface and liked it a lot and I would like to have someone comment on POIs and if it speaks while in walking mode. My conversation with Garmin was it did not, but I suspect the person I spoke to did not understand what I was asking and was not willing to check it out. Of course not having an actual route to walk, I suspect a lack of a simulation mode might be the problem in that case. Sorry I can't provide more info. Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Scott, could you speak more about the Garmin app and it's features as they relate to a blind user? How is it for walking routes? What sort of features are available. I've used Geo does it have a lot of the business locating features etc? How about the walking maps? Do they tend to put you in the middle of parking lots or do they calculate a little to at least put you on the sidewalk in front of the building? In general, how's the accuracy of the GPS receiver? I hear it's not that great from a sited engineer friend of mine. He designs GPS receivers though so he might be picky. How well do you find it works? Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:46 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Robert, Navigon only receives map updates when the app is updated. If you want the most current maps possible, the Garmin app is the way to go. I have not tried Tom TOm, but I find the Garmin interface to be a bit better than Navigon; however, both apps are quite good. I know the most recent version of the Garmin software apparently includes improvements for accessibility, but not sure what exactly those are. I believe either will meet your needs and it may come down to which interface you prefer and if you can live with the data use of Garmin with the understanding the tradeoff is in more current map data. I again cannot speak about Tom TOm since I have never used it. I think the reason you hear more about Navigon and TOm TOm is simply that both have been around a bit longer on the iOS platform. hth, Scott On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Robert Hooper wrote: Before even getting into the question I wish to ask on this post, let me stop and acknowledge that I am indeed aware of the fact that the word “best”, so often used, is just a four letter word incapable of nearly anything. With that being said, I will be receiving my iPhone tomorrow and wish to fill it full of delicious apps. I would like one of the apps to be a GPS package. At this point, I have arrived at three possible conclusions via friends, this list, and the Applevis web site. I am considering the Garmin app, Navigon, and Tomtom, the latter mainly because I hear it’s accessible and the primary rival to Navigon. What are the benefits for each app? Why should I choose one over the other? I know that the Garmin app doesn’t locally store map information and the maps are constantly updated as well as traffic and weather information. How does Navigon compete with this? Are there updates to Navigon’s maps? Does it provide the same type of information? And what of Tomtom? Does it store maps locally or are they accessed remotely like Garmin? Another reason I am undecided is that Garmin looks the most impressive,
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Hi Ricardo and Eric, For what it does (and the price) around me is excellent!! The main difference between aroundMe and WhereTo is the number of categories. AroundMe has a total of 18 with a few redundancies such as bars and pubs. If I select the food and drink category in whereTo? here is the list of subcategories under the letter a: Afgan African all you can eat American Argentinean Armenian Asian Australian and Austrian I'll spare the reader (and my fingers) a trip through the rest of the alphabet or rundown of other business categories, but I can't think of one that isn't covered. As I understand it, the initial release of lookAround listed the five nearest points of interest without regard to user category preference, but perhaps a subsequent release rendered their business search feature more useful? Best regards. Geoff On Feb 12, 2011, at 6:58 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Or by contrast compared to the 5 dollar lookaround app by sendero? Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-02-12, at 2:28 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi Geoff, I've never used where to. I use around me for my POI needs. I was wondering if you've used around me, and if so, could you compare and contrast the two apps a bit? Around me is free and I find it to be pretty good. I was wondering what one would get for their $3 for where to. Thanks. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Feb 12, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings Scott G, Since you mentioned business location I thought I'd mention the $3.00 app named WhereTo? by future tap. It has a list of categories and results which IMHO absolutely puts geo to shame and more over, the business can be seamlessly passed to either Navigon, TomTom or the built in maps app where it launches the preferred helper app and sets the desired POI as the destination I can't speak for Garmet or TomTom, but IMHO the POI location feature in Navigon is okay, but you can only get so many pois into a 1.6 GB app. The URL for WhereTo? in the US app store is: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 Best regards. Geoff On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Scott, I have not had sufficient experience to comment on Garmin. I find that of the few I have tried including Navigon will get you pretty close, within 30 feet. I have seen the interface and liked it a lot and I would like to have someone comment on POIs and if it speaks while in walking mode. My conversation with Garmin was it did not, but I suspect the person I spoke to did not understand what I was asking and was not willing to check it out. Of course not having an actual route to walk, I suspect a lack of a simulation mode might be the problem in that case. Sorry I can't provide more info. Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Scott, could you speak more about the Garmin app and it's features as they relate to a blind user? How is it for walking routes? What sort of features are available. I've used Geo does it have a lot of the business locating features etc? How about the walking maps? Do they tend to put you in the middle of parking lots or do they calculate a little to at least put you on the sidewalk in front of the building? In general, how's the accuracy of the GPS receiver? I hear it's not that great from a sited engineer friend of mine. He designs GPS receivers though so he might be picky. How well do you find it works? Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:46 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Robert, Navigon only receives map updates when the app is updated. If you want the most current maps possible, the Garmin app is the way to go. I have not tried Tom TOm, but I find the Garmin interface to be a bit better than Navigon; however, both apps are quite good. I know the most recent version of the Garmin software apparently includes improvements for accessibility, but not sure what exactly those are. I believe either will meet your needs and it may come down to which interface you prefer and if you can live with the data use of Garmin with the understanding the tradeoff is in more current map data. I again cannot speak about Tom TOm since I have never used it. I think the reason you hear more about Navigon and TOm TOm is simply that both have been around a bit longer on the iOS platform. hth, Scott On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Robert Hooper wrote: Before even getting into the question I wish to ask on this post, let me stop and acknowledge that I am indeed aware of the fact that the word “best”, so often used, is just a four letter word incapable of nearly anything. With that being said, I
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Hi Geoff. I don't know if you are using Navigon a lot, but I do have problems with it in that if I try and search for an address by putting in all the relevant information, it won't accept the details as sometimes Voice Over won't go into the edit boxes. Have you or anyone else had that problem? I'm still using GEO. I just wish Navigon spoke where you were automatically as you have to do a lot of flicking whereas GEO just tells you where you are which I find very important if I'm travelling independently on the busses. If I could get Navigon to accept my information then I'd be OK with it. Kawal. On 12 Feb 2011, at 06:57, Scott Granados wrote: This is a great pointer! Really, thank you I'm going to give this a shot. I recently regained my interest in GPS because I'm up in San Francisco so frequently now and there is very solid public transportation up there. I generally cheat and take cabs or have my assistant come up for big projects but I'm trying to expand my boundaries. Pushing one's limits and all that sort of thing. I'm interested in anything on this topic so I hope it continues. Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings Scott G, Since you mentioned business location I thought I'd mention the $3.00 app named WhereTo? by future tap. It has a list of categories and results which IMHO absolutely puts geo to shame and more over, the business can be seamlessly passed to either Navigon, TomTom or the built in maps app where it launches the preferred helper app and sets the desired POI as the destination I can't speak for Garmet or TomTom, but IMHO the POI location feature in Navigon is okay, but you can only get so many pois into a 1.6 GB app. The URL for WhereTo? in the US app store is: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 Best regards. Geoff On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Scott, I have not had sufficient experience to comment on Garmin. I find that of the few I have tried including Navigon will get you pretty close, within 30 feet. I have seen the interface and liked it a lot and I would like to have someone comment on POIs and if it speaks while in walking mode. My conversation with Garmin was it did not, but I suspect the person I spoke to did not understand what I was asking and was not willing to check it out. Of course not having an actual route to walk, I suspect a lack of a simulation mode might be the problem in that case. Sorry I can't provide more info. Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Scott, could you speak more about the Garmin app and it's features as they relate to a blind user? How is it for walking routes? What sort of features are available. I've used Geo does it have a lot of the business locating features etc? How about the walking maps? Do they tend to put you in the middle of parking lots or do they calculate a little to at least put you on the sidewalk in front of the building? In general, how's the accuracy of the GPS receiver? I hear it's not that great from a sited engineer friend of mine. He designs GPS receivers though so he might be picky. How well do you find it works? Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:46 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Robert, Navigon only receives map updates when the app is updated. If you want the most current maps possible, the Garmin app is the way to go. I have not tried Tom TOm, but I find the Garmin interface to be a bit better than Navigon; however, both apps are quite good. I know the most recent version of the Garmin software apparently includes improvements for accessibility, but not sure what exactly those are. I believe either will meet your needs and it may come down to which interface you prefer and if you can live with the data use of Garmin with the understanding the tradeoff is in more current map data. I again cannot speak about Tom TOm since I have never used it. I think the reason you hear more about Navigon and TOm TOm is simply that both have been around a bit longer on the iOS platform. hth, Scott On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Robert Hooper wrote: Before even getting into the question I wish to ask on this post, let me stop and acknowledge that I am indeed aware of the fact that the word “best”, so often used, is just a four letter word incapable of nearly anything. With that being said, I will be receiving my iPhone tomorrow and wish to fill it full of delicious apps. I would like one of the apps to be a GPS package. At this point, I have arrived at three possible conclusions via friends, this list, and the Applevis web site. I am considering the Garmin app, Navigon, and Tomtom, the latter mainly because I hear it’s accessible and the primary rival to Navigon. What are the benefits for each app? Why
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Hello Kawal, Remember to double tap every time Navigon puts you into a new edit field. That means the city, street and number. It's kind of annoying but that's VO as far as I know it. Tom Frank vermont...@gmail.com On Feb 12, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Geoff. I don't know if you are using Navigon a lot, but I do have problems with it in that if I try and search for an address by putting in all the relevant information, it won't accept the details as sometimes Voice Over won't go into the edit boxes. Have you or anyone else had that problem? I'm still using GEO. I just wish Navigon spoke where you were automatically as you have to do a lot of flicking whereas GEO just tells you where you are which I find very important if I'm travelling independently on the busses. If I could get Navigon to accept my information then I'd be OK with it. Kawal. On 12 Feb 2011, at 06:57, Scott Granados wrote: This is a great pointer! Really, thank you I'm going to give this a shot. I recently regained my interest in GPS because I'm up in San Francisco so frequently now and there is very solid public transportation up there. I generally cheat and take cabs or have my assistant come up for big projects but I'm trying to expand my boundaries. Pushing one's limits and all that sort of thing. I'm interested in anything on this topic so I hope it continues. Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings Scott G, Since you mentioned business location I thought I'd mention the $3.00 app named WhereTo? by future tap. It has a list of categories and results which IMHO absolutely puts geo to shame and more over, the business can be seamlessly passed to either Navigon, TomTom or the built in maps app where it launches the preferred helper app and sets the desired POI as the destination I can't speak for Garmet or TomTom, but IMHO the POI location feature in Navigon is okay, but you can only get so many pois into a 1.6 GB app. The URL for WhereTo? in the US app store is: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 Best regards. Geoff On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Scott, I have not had sufficient experience to comment on Garmin. I find that of the few I have tried including Navigon will get you pretty close, within 30 feet. I have seen the interface and liked it a lot and I would like to have someone comment on POIs and if it speaks while in walking mode. My conversation with Garmin was it did not, but I suspect the person I spoke to did not understand what I was asking and was not willing to check it out. Of course not having an actual route to walk, I suspect a lack of a simulation mode might be the problem in that case. Sorry I can't provide more info. Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Scott, could you speak more about the Garmin app and it's features as they relate to a blind user? How is it for walking routes? What sort of features are available. I've used Geo does it have a lot of the business locating features etc? How about the walking maps? Do they tend to put you in the middle of parking lots or do they calculate a little to at least put you on the sidewalk in front of the building? In general, how's the accuracy of the GPS receiver? I hear it's not that great from a sited engineer friend of mine. He designs GPS receivers though so he might be picky. How well do you find it works? Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:46 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Robert, Navigon only receives map updates when the app is updated. If you want the most current maps possible, the Garmin app is the way to go. I have not tried Tom TOm, but I find the Garmin interface to be a bit better than Navigon; however, both apps are quite good. I know the most recent version of the Garmin software apparently includes improvements for accessibility, but not sure what exactly those are. I believe either will meet your needs and it may come down to which interface you prefer and if you can live with the data use of Garmin with the understanding the tradeoff is in more current map data. I again cannot speak about Tom TOm since I have never used it. I think the reason you hear more about Navigon and TOm TOm is simply that both have been around a bit longer on the iOS platform. hth, Scott On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Robert Hooper wrote: Before even getting into the question I wish to ask on this post, let me stop and acknowledge that I am indeed aware of the fact that the word “best”, so often used, is just a four letter word incapable of nearly anything. With that being said, I will be receiving my iPhone tomorrow and wish to fill it full of delicious apps. I would like one of the apps to be a GPS package. At this
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Hi Kawal: Call me dense. But, I still think there's too much rocket science involved in making Navigon work. I've gotten discouraged with the number of hoops to jump through, just to get directions somewhere. Or, perhaps I'm just too much of a homebody to make it worth my while to work with. I have a secret notion that only wizards and geniuses can really get anywhere using it.:) Carolyn H On Feb 12, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Geoff. I don't know if you are using Navigon a lot, but I do have problems with it in that if I try and search for an address by putting in all the relevant information, it won't accept the details as sometimes Voice Over won't go into the edit boxes. Have you or anyone else had that problem? I'm still using GEO. I just wish Navigon spoke where you were automatically as you have to do a lot of flicking whereas GEO just tells you where you are which I find very important if I'm travelling independently on the busses. If I could get Navigon to accept my information then I'd be OK with it. Kawal. On 12 Feb 2011, at 06:57, Scott Granados wrote: This is a great pointer! Really, thank you I'm going to give this a shot. I recently regained my interest in GPS because I'm up in San Francisco so frequently now and there is very solid public transportation up there. I generally cheat and take cabs or have my assistant come up for big projects but I'm trying to expand my boundaries. Pushing one's limits and all that sort of thing. I'm interested in anything on this topic so I hope it continues. Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings Scott G, Since you mentioned business location I thought I'd mention the $3.00 app named WhereTo? by future tap. It has a list of categories and results which IMHO absolutely puts geo to shame and more over, the business can be seamlessly passed to either Navigon, TomTom or the built in maps app where it launches the preferred helper app and sets the desired POI as the destination I can't speak for Garmet or TomTom, but IMHO the POI location feature in Navigon is okay, but you can only get so many pois into a 1.6 GB app. The URL for WhereTo? in the US app store is: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 Best regards. Geoff On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Scott, I have not had sufficient experience to comment on Garmin. I find that of the few I have tried including Navigon will get you pretty close, within 30 feet. I have seen the interface and liked it a lot and I would like to have someone comment on POIs and if it speaks while in walking mode. My conversation with Garmin was it did not, but I suspect the person I spoke to did not understand what I was asking and was not willing to check it out. Of course not having an actual route to walk, I suspect a lack of a simulation mode might be the problem in that case. Sorry I can't provide more info. Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Scott, could you speak more about the Garmin app and it's features as they relate to a blind user? How is it for walking routes? What sort of features are available. I've used Geo does it have a lot of the business locating features etc? How about the walking maps? Do they tend to put you in the middle of parking lots or do they calculate a little to at least put you on the sidewalk in front of the building? In general, how's the accuracy of the GPS receiver? I hear it's not that great from a sited engineer friend of mine. He designs GPS receivers though so he might be picky. How well do you find it works? Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:46 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Robert, Navigon only receives map updates when the app is updated. If you want the most current maps possible, the Garmin app is the way to go. I have not tried Tom TOm, but I find the Garmin interface to be a bit better than Navigon; however, both apps are quite good. I know the most recent version of the Garmin software apparently includes improvements for accessibility, but not sure what exactly those are. I believe either will meet your needs and it may come down to which interface you prefer and if you can live with the data use of Garmin with the understanding the tradeoff is in more current map data. I again cannot speak about Tom TOm since I have never used it. I think the reason you hear more about Navigon and TOm TOm is simply that both have been around a bit longer on the iOS platform. hth, Scott On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Robert Hooper wrote: Before even getting into the question I wish to ask on this post, let me stop and acknowledge that I am indeed aware of the fact that the word “best”, so often used, is just a four letter word incapable of nearly anything. With
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Robert, Navigon only receives map updates when the app is updated. If you want the most current maps possible, the Garmin app is the way to go. I have not tried Tom TOm, but I find the Garmin interface to be a bit better than Navigon; however, both apps are quite good. I know the most recent version of the Garmin software apparently includes improvements for accessibility, but not sure what exactly those are. I believe either will meet your needs and it may come down to which interface you prefer and if you can live with the data use of Garmin with the understanding the tradeoff is in more current map data. I again cannot speak about Tom TOm since I have never used it. I think the reason you hear more about Navigon and TOm TOm is simply that both have been around a bit longer on the iOS platform. hth, Scott On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Robert Hooper wrote: Before even getting into the question I wish to ask on this post, let me stop and acknowledge that I am indeed aware of the fact that the word “best”, so often used, is just a four letter word incapable of nearly anything. With that being said, I will be receiving my iPhone tomorrow and wish to fill it full of delicious apps. I would like one of the apps to be a GPS package. At this point, I have arrived at three possible conclusions via friends, this list, and the Applevis web site. I am considering the Garmin app, Navigon, and Tomtom, the latter mainly because I hear it’s accessible and the primary rival to Navigon. What are the benefits for each app? Why should I choose one over the other? I know that the Garmin app doesn’t locally store map information and the maps are constantly updated as well as traffic and weather information. How does Navigon compete with this? Are there updates to Navigon’s maps? Does it provide the same type of information? And what of Tomtom? Does it store maps locally or are they accessed remotely like Garmin? Another reason I am undecided is that Garmin looks the most impressive, yet it is only ever Tomtom and Navigon about which I hear—so is there some drawback to Garmin which prevents it from competing on the same level? I read on the Applevis web site that Garmin is very accessible, as well as Navigon. Any information is welcome—if I have to have multiple solutions, I guess I could do that, but it would be much easier just to depend on one. Finally, does it really matter that much which app I decide to use? Is one essentially as good as the other? Any input would be appreciated—no matter how lengthy (I would even prefer lengthy smile). Thanks, Robert Hooper hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu The Ohio State University 553 Morrill Tower 1900 Cannon Drive Columbus, Ohio 43210 (740) 856-9435 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hi there! Ok I'm curious does anyone reading this thread use or not like the Kapten software! I know its available for the I phone and is made for blind-vi users! Is it no good or just not popular! Cheers Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 11 Feb 2011, at 10:46, Scott Howell wrote: Robert, Navigon only receives map updates when the app is updated. If you want the most current maps possible, the Garmin app is the way to go. I have not tried Tom TOm, but I find the Garmin interface to be a bit better than Navigon; however, both apps are quite good. I know the most recent version of the Garmin software apparently includes improvements for accessibility, but not sure what exactly those are. I believe either will meet your needs and it may come down to which interface you prefer and if you can live with the data use of Garmin with the understanding the tradeoff is in more current map data. I again cannot speak about Tom TOm since I have never used it. I think the reason you hear more about Navigon and TOm TOm is simply that both have been around a bit longer on the iOS platform. hth, Scott On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Robert Hooper wrote: Before even getting into the question I wish to ask on this post, let me stop and acknowledge that I am indeed aware of the fact that the word “best”, so often used, is just a four letter word incapable of nearly anything. With that being said, I will be receiving my iPhone tomorrow and wish to fill it full of delicious apps. I would like one of the apps to be a GPS package. At this point, I have arrived at three possible conclusions via friends, this list, and the Applevis web site. I am considering the Garmin app, Navigon, and Tomtom, the latter mainly because I hear it’s accessible and the primary rival to Navigon. What are the benefits for each app? Why should I choose one over the other? I know that the Garmin app doesn’t locally store map information and the maps are constantly updated as well as traffic and weather information. How does Navigon compete with this? Are there updates to Navigon’s maps? Does it provide the same type of information? And what of Tomtom? Does it store maps locally or are they accessed remotely like Garmin? Another reason I am undecided is that Garmin looks the most impressive, yet it is only ever Tomtom and Navigon about which I hear—so is there some drawback to Garmin which prevents it from competing on the same level? I read on the Applevis web site that Garmin is very accessible, as well as Navigon. Any information is welcome—if I have to have multiple solutions, I guess I could do that, but it would be much easier just to depend on one. Finally, does it really matter that much which app I decide to use? Is one essentially as good as the other? Any input would be appreciated—no matter how lengthy (I would even prefer lengthy smile). Thanks, Robert Hooper hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu The Ohio State University 553 Morrill Tower 1900 Cannon Drive Columbus, Ohio 43210 (740) 856-9435 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hello Colin, I have Kapten WEU and use it for planning routes using public transport, but I find it less accurate than Navigon when walking. I'll have to give it another go soon, maybe the next time I go into Paris. Here in my village, all the GPS solutions try to send me on weird routes, and none of them will believe that my house exists. The house has been here for hundreds of years. Cheers, Anne On 11 Feb 2011, at 13:07, Colin M wrote: Hi there! Ok I'm curious does anyone reading this thread use or not like the Kapten software! I know its available for the I phone and is made for blind-vi users! Is it no good or just not popular! Cheers Col -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Scott, could you speak more about the Garmin app and it's features as they relate to a blind user? How is it for walking routes? What sort of features are available. I've used Geo does it have a lot of the business locating features etc? How about the walking maps? Do they tend to put you in the middle of parking lots or do they calculate a little to at least put you on the sidewalk in front of the building? In general, how's the accuracy of the GPS receiver? I hear it's not that great from a sited engineer friend of mine. He designs GPS receivers though so he might be picky. How well do you find it works? Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:46 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Robert, Navigon only receives map updates when the app is updated. If you want the most current maps possible, the Garmin app is the way to go. I have not tried Tom TOm, but I find the Garmin interface to be a bit better than Navigon; however, both apps are quite good. I know the most recent version of the Garmin software apparently includes improvements for accessibility, but not sure what exactly those are. I believe either will meet your needs and it may come down to which interface you prefer and if you can live with the data use of Garmin with the understanding the tradeoff is in more current map data. I again cannot speak about Tom TOm since I have never used it. I think the reason you hear more about Navigon and TOm TOm is simply that both have been around a bit longer on the iOS platform. hth, Scott On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Robert Hooper wrote: Before even getting into the question I wish to ask on this post, let me stop and acknowledge that I am indeed aware of the fact that the word “best”, so often used, is just a four letter word incapable of nearly anything. With that being said, I will be receiving my iPhone tomorrow and wish to fill it full of delicious apps. I would like one of the apps to be a GPS package. At this point, I have arrived at three possible conclusions via friends, this list, and the Applevis web site. I am considering the Garmin app, Navigon, and Tomtom, the latter mainly because I hear it’s accessible and the primary rival to Navigon. What are the benefits for each app? Why should I choose one over the other? I know that the Garmin app doesn’t locally store map information and the maps are constantly updated as well as traffic and weather information. How does Navigon compete with this? Are there updates to Navigon’s maps? Does it provide the same type of information? And what of Tomtom? Does it store maps locally or are they accessed remotely like Garmin? Another reason I am undecided is that Garmin looks the most impressive, yet it is only ever Tomtom and Navigon about which I hear—so is there some drawback to Garmin which prevents it from competing on the same level? I read on the Applevis web site that Garmin is very accessible, as well as Navigon. Any information is welcome—if I have to have multiple solutions, I guess I could do that, but it would be much easier just to depend on one. Finally, does it really matter that much which app I decide to use? Is one essentially as good as the other? Any input would be appreciated—no matter how lengthy (I would even prefer lengthy smile). Thanks, Robert Hooper hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu The Ohio State University 553 Morrill Tower 1900 Cannon Drive Columbus, Ohio 43210 (740) 856-9435 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Can I say that's one of the coolest things I've heard in a while... I wish I lived in a village! The oldest house I've ever lived in was built in 1910. Where I live now was built in the 70S and that's considered old. I want to live in a village! On Feb 11, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Colin, I have Kapten WEU and use it for planning routes using public transport, but I find it less accurate than Navigon when walking. I'll have to give it another go soon, maybe the next time I go into Paris. Here in my village, all the GPS solutions try to send me on weird routes, and none of them will believe that my house exists. The house has been here for hundreds of years. Cheers, Anne On 11 Feb 2011, at 13:07, Colin M wrote: Hi there! Ok I'm curious does anyone reading this thread use or not like the Kapten software! I know its available for the I phone and is made for blind-vi users! Is it no good or just not popular! Cheers Col -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Scott, I have not had sufficient experience to comment on Garmin. I find that of the few I have tried including Navigon will get you pretty close, within 30 feet. I have seen the interface and liked it a lot and I would like to have someone comment on POIs and if it speaks while in walking mode. My conversation with Garmin was it did not, but I suspect the person I spoke to did not understand what I was asking and was not willing to check it out. Of course not having an actual route to walk, I suspect a lack of a simulation mode might be the problem in that case. Sorry I can't provide more info. Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Scott, could you speak more about the Garmin app and it's features as they relate to a blind user? How is it for walking routes? What sort of features are available. I've used Geo does it have a lot of the business locating features etc? How about the walking maps? Do they tend to put you in the middle of parking lots or do they calculate a little to at least put you on the sidewalk in front of the building? In general, how's the accuracy of the GPS receiver? I hear it's not that great from a sited engineer friend of mine. He designs GPS receivers though so he might be picky. How well do you find it works? Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:46 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Robert, Navigon only receives map updates when the app is updated. If you want the most current maps possible, the Garmin app is the way to go. I have not tried Tom TOm, but I find the Garmin interface to be a bit better than Navigon; however, both apps are quite good. I know the most recent version of the Garmin software apparently includes improvements for accessibility, but not sure what exactly those are. I believe either will meet your needs and it may come down to which interface you prefer and if you can live with the data use of Garmin with the understanding the tradeoff is in more current map data. I again cannot speak about Tom TOm since I have never used it. I think the reason you hear more about Navigon and TOm TOm is simply that both have been around a bit longer on the iOS platform. hth, Scott On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Robert Hooper wrote: Before even getting into the question I wish to ask on this post, let me stop and acknowledge that I am indeed aware of the fact that the word “best”, so often used, is just a four letter word incapable of nearly anything. With that being said, I will be receiving my iPhone tomorrow and wish to fill it full of delicious apps. I would like one of the apps to be a GPS package. At this point, I have arrived at three possible conclusions via friends, this list, and the Applevis web site. I am considering the Garmin app, Navigon, and Tomtom, the latter mainly because I hear it’s accessible and the primary rival to Navigon. What are the benefits for each app? Why should I choose one over the other? I know that the Garmin app doesn’t locally store map information and the maps are constantly updated as well as traffic and weather information. How does Navigon compete with this? Are there updates to Navigon’s maps? Does it provide the same type of information? And what of Tomtom? Does it store maps locally or are they accessed remotely like Garmin? Another reason I am undecided is that Garmin looks the most impressive, yet it is only ever Tomtom and Navigon about which I hear—so is there some drawback to Garmin which prevents it from competing on the same level? I read on the Applevis web site that Garmin is very accessible, as well as Navigon. Any information is welcome—if I have to have multiple solutions, I guess I could do that, but it would be much easier just to depend on one. Finally, does it really matter that much which app I decide to use? Is one essentially as good as the other? Any input would be appreciated—no matter how lengthy (I would even prefer lengthy smile). Thanks, Robert Hooper hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu The Ohio State University 553 Morrill Tower 1900 Cannon Drive Columbus, Ohio 43210 (740) 856-9435 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message
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Greetings Scott G, Since you mentioned business location I thought I'd mention the $3.00 app named WhereTo? by future tap. It has a list of categories and results which IMHO absolutely puts geo to shame and more over, the business can be seamlessly passed to either Navigon, TomTom or the built in maps app where it launches the preferred helper app and sets the desired POI as the destination I can't speak for Garmet or TomTom, but IMHO the POI location feature in Navigon is okay, but you can only get so many pois into a 1.6 GB app. The URL for WhereTo? in the US app store is: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 Best regards. Geoff On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Scott, I have not had sufficient experience to comment on Garmin. I find that of the few I have tried including Navigon will get you pretty close, within 30 feet. I have seen the interface and liked it a lot and I would like to have someone comment on POIs and if it speaks while in walking mode. My conversation with Garmin was it did not, but I suspect the person I spoke to did not understand what I was asking and was not willing to check it out. Of course not having an actual route to walk, I suspect a lack of a simulation mode might be the problem in that case. Sorry I can't provide more info. Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Scott, could you speak more about the Garmin app and it's features as they relate to a blind user? How is it for walking routes? What sort of features are available. I've used Geo does it have a lot of the business locating features etc? How about the walking maps? Do they tend to put you in the middle of parking lots or do they calculate a little to at least put you on the sidewalk in front of the building? In general, how's the accuracy of the GPS receiver? I hear it's not that great from a sited engineer friend of mine. He designs GPS receivers though so he might be picky. How well do you find it works? Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:46 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Robert, Navigon only receives map updates when the app is updated. If you want the most current maps possible, the Garmin app is the way to go. I have not tried Tom TOm, but I find the Garmin interface to be a bit better than Navigon; however, both apps are quite good. I know the most recent version of the Garmin software apparently includes improvements for accessibility, but not sure what exactly those are. I believe either will meet your needs and it may come down to which interface you prefer and if you can live with the data use of Garmin with the understanding the tradeoff is in more current map data. I again cannot speak about Tom TOm since I have never used it. I think the reason you hear more about Navigon and TOm TOm is simply that both have been around a bit longer on the iOS platform. hth, Scott On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Robert Hooper wrote: Before even getting into the question I wish to ask on this post, let me stop and acknowledge that I am indeed aware of the fact that the word “best”, so often used, is just a four letter word incapable of nearly anything. With that being said, I will be receiving my iPhone tomorrow and wish to fill it full of delicious apps. I would like one of the apps to be a GPS package. At this point, I have arrived at three possible conclusions via friends, this list, and the Applevis web site. I am considering the Garmin app, Navigon, and Tomtom, the latter mainly because I hear it’s accessible and the primary rival to Navigon. What are the benefits for each app? Why should I choose one over the other? I know that the Garmin app doesn’t locally store map information and the maps are constantly updated as well as traffic and weather information. How does Navigon compete with this? Are there updates to Navigon’s maps? Does it provide the same type of information? And what of Tomtom? Does it store maps locally or are they accessed remotely like Garmin? Another reason I am undecided is that Garmin looks the most impressive, yet it is only ever Tomtom and Navigon about which I hear—so is there some drawback to Garmin which prevents it from competing on the same level? I read on the Applevis web site that Garmin is very accessible, as well as Navigon. Any information is welcome—if I have to have multiple solutions, I guess I could do that, but it would be much easier just to depend on one. Finally, does it really matter that much which app I decide to use? Is one essentially as good as the other? Any input would be appreciated—no matter how lengthy (I would even prefer lengthy smile). Thanks, Robert Hooper hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu The Ohio State University 553 Morrill Tower 1900 Cannon Drive Columbus, Ohio 43210 (740) 856-9435 --
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This is a great pointer! Really, thank you I'm going to give this a shot. I recently regained my interest in GPS because I'm up in San Francisco so frequently now and there is very solid public transportation up there. I generally cheat and take cabs or have my assistant come up for big projects but I'm trying to expand my boundaries. Pushing one's limits and all that sort of thing. I'm interested in anything on this topic so I hope it continues. Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings Scott G, Since you mentioned business location I thought I'd mention the $3.00 app named WhereTo? by future tap. It has a list of categories and results which IMHO absolutely puts geo to shame and more over, the business can be seamlessly passed to either Navigon, TomTom or the built in maps app where it launches the preferred helper app and sets the desired POI as the destination I can't speak for Garmet or TomTom, but IMHO the POI location feature in Navigon is okay, but you can only get so many pois into a 1.6 GB app. The URL for WhereTo? in the US app store is: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 Best regards. Geoff On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Scott, I have not had sufficient experience to comment on Garmin. I find that of the few I have tried including Navigon will get you pretty close, within 30 feet. I have seen the interface and liked it a lot and I would like to have someone comment on POIs and if it speaks while in walking mode. My conversation with Garmin was it did not, but I suspect the person I spoke to did not understand what I was asking and was not willing to check it out. Of course not having an actual route to walk, I suspect a lack of a simulation mode might be the problem in that case. Sorry I can't provide more info. Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Scott, could you speak more about the Garmin app and it's features as they relate to a blind user? How is it for walking routes? What sort of features are available. I've used Geo does it have a lot of the business locating features etc? How about the walking maps? Do they tend to put you in the middle of parking lots or do they calculate a little to at least put you on the sidewalk in front of the building? In general, how's the accuracy of the GPS receiver? I hear it's not that great from a sited engineer friend of mine. He designs GPS receivers though so he might be picky. How well do you find it works? Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:46 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Robert, Navigon only receives map updates when the app is updated. If you want the most current maps possible, the Garmin app is the way to go. I have not tried Tom TOm, but I find the Garmin interface to be a bit better than Navigon; however, both apps are quite good. I know the most recent version of the Garmin software apparently includes improvements for accessibility, but not sure what exactly those are. I believe either will meet your needs and it may come down to which interface you prefer and if you can live with the data use of Garmin with the understanding the tradeoff is in more current map data. I again cannot speak about Tom TOm since I have never used it. I think the reason you hear more about Navigon and TOm TOm is simply that both have been around a bit longer on the iOS platform. hth, Scott On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Robert Hooper wrote: Before even getting into the question I wish to ask on this post, let me stop and acknowledge that I am indeed aware of the fact that the word “best”, so often used, is just a four letter word incapable of nearly anything. With that being said, I will be receiving my iPhone tomorrow and wish to fill it full of delicious apps. I would like one of the apps to be a GPS package. At this point, I have arrived at three possible conclusions via friends, this list, and the Applevis web site. I am considering the Garmin app, Navigon, and Tomtom, the latter mainly because I hear it’s accessible and the primary rival to Navigon. What are the benefits for each app? Why should I choose one over the other? I know that the Garmin app doesn’t locally store map information and the maps are constantly updated as well as traffic and weather information. How does Navigon compete with this? Are there updates to Navigon’s maps? Does it provide the same type of information? And what of Tomtom? Does it store maps locally or are they accessed remotely like Garmin? Another reason I am undecided is that Garmin looks the most impressive, yet it is only ever Tomtom and Navigon about which I hear—so is there some drawback to Garmin which prevents it from competing on the same level? I read on the Applevis web site that Garmin is very
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Hi Geoff, I've never used where to. I use around me for my POI needs. I was wondering if you've used around me, and if so, could you compare and contrast the two apps a bit? Around me is free and I find it to be pretty good. I was wondering what one would get for their $3 for where to. Thanks. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Feb 12, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings Scott G, Since you mentioned business location I thought I'd mention the $3.00 app named WhereTo? by future tap. It has a list of categories and results which IMHO absolutely puts geo to shame and more over, the business can be seamlessly passed to either Navigon, TomTom or the built in maps app where it launches the preferred helper app and sets the desired POI as the destination I can't speak for Garmet or TomTom, but IMHO the POI location feature in Navigon is okay, but you can only get so many pois into a 1.6 GB app. The URL for WhereTo? in the US app store is: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 Best regards. Geoff On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Scott, I have not had sufficient experience to comment on Garmin. I find that of the few I have tried including Navigon will get you pretty close, within 30 feet. I have seen the interface and liked it a lot and I would like to have someone comment on POIs and if it speaks while in walking mode. My conversation with Garmin was it did not, but I suspect the person I spoke to did not understand what I was asking and was not willing to check it out. Of course not having an actual route to walk, I suspect a lack of a simulation mode might be the problem in that case. Sorry I can't provide more info. Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Scott, could you speak more about the Garmin app and it's features as they relate to a blind user? How is it for walking routes? What sort of features are available. I've used Geo does it have a lot of the business locating features etc? How about the walking maps? Do they tend to put you in the middle of parking lots or do they calculate a little to at least put you on the sidewalk in front of the building? In general, how's the accuracy of the GPS receiver? I hear it's not that great from a sited engineer friend of mine. He designs GPS receivers though so he might be picky. How well do you find it works? Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:46 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Robert, Navigon only receives map updates when the app is updated. If you want the most current maps possible, the Garmin app is the way to go. I have not tried Tom TOm, but I find the Garmin interface to be a bit better than Navigon; however, both apps are quite good. I know the most recent version of the Garmin software apparently includes improvements for accessibility, but not sure what exactly those are. I believe either will meet your needs and it may come down to which interface you prefer and if you can live with the data use of Garmin with the understanding the tradeoff is in more current map data. I again cannot speak about Tom TOm since I have never used it. I think the reason you hear more about Navigon and TOm TOm is simply that both have been around a bit longer on the iOS platform. hth, Scott On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Robert Hooper wrote: Before even getting into the question I wish to ask on this post, let me stop and acknowledge that I am indeed aware of the fact that the word “best”, so often used, is just a four letter word incapable of nearly anything. With that being said, I will be receiving my iPhone tomorrow and wish to fill it full of delicious apps. I would like one of the apps to be a GPS package. At this point, I have arrived at three possible conclusions via friends, this list, and the Applevis web site. I am considering the Garmin app, Navigon, and Tomtom, the latter mainly because I hear it’s accessible and the primary rival to Navigon. What are the benefits for each app? Why should I choose one over the other? I know that the Garmin app doesn’t locally store map information and the maps are constantly updated as well as traffic and weather information. How does Navigon compete with this? Are there updates to Navigon’s maps? Does it provide the same type of information? And what of Tomtom? Does it store maps locally or are they accessed remotely like Garmin? Another reason I am undecided is that Garmin looks the most impressive, yet it is only ever Tomtom and Navigon about which I hear—so is there some drawback to Garmin which prevents it from competing on the same level? I read on the Applevis web site that Garmin is very accessible, as well as Navigon. Any information is welcome—if I have to
