Re: Keychain

[Anders Holmberg]

Keychain is a very very good thing.
I have it setup for my devices here.
Now i can bring my phone and ipad to my parrents and i am automatically logged 
in to their wifi.
/A
22 jun 2014 kl. 12:28 skrev Christopher Hallsworth :

> Hello everybody
> I want to tell you about this seemingly useful feature of iCloud called 
> Keychain. This allows you to securely upload your confidential data such as 
> passwords and credit cards to the cloud. For the paranoid let me assure you 
> that the information presented during setup assures that all data is 
> encrypted and cannot be read by Apple. Alternatively you can simply not use 
> it grin. Also during setup you are required to set a security code and phone 
> number if you have one so you can receive a message when approving new 
> devices for Keychain. Once set up and you have autofill enabled in Safari any 
> of the above data will be uploaded to iCloud with your concent. You can also 
> view the saved passwords and delete any or all at your leisure. After all 
> that I now have Keychain setup on both my iPhone 4s running 7.1.1 and late 
> 2011 Macbook Pro running 10.9.3 Mavericks set up for Keychain. I don't know 
> why I refused to use it at first now since the process from the word go is 
> heavily involved before it can be used.
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Re: Keychain

[Daniel McGee]

I'm just wondering, how does this work between Mac and IOS devices alike?

I was thinking about using it but was worried about passwords being for lack of 
a better term, "discoverable." 
Guess I'm the paranoid type. lol
Seriously though, I'd like to give this feature of iCloud the benefit of a 
doubt so if you could do your best to describe maybe how you use it and from 
that, I can see if its going to be of any use to me. Finally, you mentioned the 
data being "encrypted." I've heard of this term in the past but what does it 
actually mean in simple english.

Thanks

Daniel
On 22 Jun 2014, at 11:28, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:

> Hello everybody
> I want to tell you about this seemingly useful feature of iCloud called 
> Keychain. This allows you to securely upload your confidential data such as 
> passwords and credit cards to the cloud. For the paranoid let me assure you 
> that the information presented during setup assures that all data is 
> encrypted and cannot be read by Apple. Alternatively you can simply not use 
> it grin. Also during setup you are required to set a security code and phone 
> number if you have one so you can receive a message when approving new 
> devices for Keychain. Once set up and you have autofill enabled in Safari any 
> of the above data will be uploaded to iCloud with your concent. You can also 
> view the saved passwords and delete any or all at your leisure. After all 
> that I now have Keychain setup on both my iPhone 4s running 7.1.1 and late 
> 2011 Macbook Pro running 10.9.3 Mavericks set up for Keychain. I don't know 
> why I refused to use it at first now since the process from the word go is 
> heavily involved before it can be used.
> -- 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
> www.hadley.edu
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Re: Keychain

[Christopher Hallsworth]

Lol I'm new to it as well so will pass on this for now. You are supposed 
to be able to have names and passwords, credit cards and the like 
automatically stored on your mac and/or iOS device as well as the cloud. 
These are stored in what is called Keychain. When the data is encrypted 
it means it's in a format that none other than the account holder can 
retrieve the data. The rest will see nothing but garbage. The stronger 
the encryption the more secure. Apple doesn't say what encryption they 
use but it sure sounds like the maximum encryption possible. Hope this 
helps.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 22/06/2014 18:05, Daniel McGee wrote:

I'm just wondering, how does this work between Mac and IOS devices alike?

I was thinking about using it but was worried about passwords being for lack of a better 
term, "discoverable."
Guess I'm the paranoid type. lol
Seriously though, I'd like to give this feature of iCloud the benefit of a doubt so if 
you could do your best to describe maybe how you use it and from that, I can see if its 
going to be of any use to me. Finally, you mentioned the data being 
"encrypted." I've heard of this term in the past but what does it actually mean 
in simple english.

Thanks

Daniel
On 22 Jun 2014, at 11:28, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:


Hello everybody
I want to tell you about this seemingly useful feature of iCloud called 
Keychain. This allows you to securely upload your confidential data such as 
passwords and credit cards to the cloud. For the paranoid let me assure you 
that the information presented during setup assures that all data is encrypted 
and cannot be read by Apple. Alternatively you can simply not use it grin. Also 
during setup you are required to set a security code and phone number if you 
have one so you can receive a message when approving new devices for Keychain. 
Once set up and you have autofill enabled in Safari any of the above data will 
be uploaded to iCloud with your concent. You can also view the saved passwords 
and delete any or all at your leisure. After all that I now have Keychain setup 
on both my iPhone 4s running 7.1.1 and late 2011 Macbook Pro running 10.9.3 
Mavericks set up for Keychain. I don't know why I refused to use it at first 
now since the process from the word go is heavily involved befor

e it can be used.

--
Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

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Re: Keychain

[Alex Hall]

I use Keychain, but I use it to store passwords I come up with. It offers, but 
I don't let it generate passwords for me. A few things about Keychain:

* It's not for documents, notes, or anything else. It stores secure 
information, like credit card details or passwords, for auto-fill in websites 
and apps. To store notes, you'd use the Notes app, optionally 
password-protecting them.

* Keychain is only available for Apple products. The moment you want to 
auto-fill your password from Keychain on Windows or Android, you're out of 
luck. This isn't a problem if you live in Apple World as my family does, but 
it's worth keeping in mind and could be a show-stopper for plenty of users.

* It can be a little complex to set up, using a different code to enable on 
macOS and doing some other funny things. It's not bad, but it's not a simple 
checkbox either.

* Oddly, it will auto-fill at your request. That is, you can use it with no 
additional security. On iOS, for instance, you can let it fill in a card or 
password, no Touch ID necessary. Of course, your device has to be unlocked, but 
it's still worth remembering that anyone can log in or fill in cards if they 
have your unlocked device. They can't see passwords, and auto-filled cards that 
need a security code still make you enter the code.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

--
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> On Jan 14, 2018, at 20:01, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
> passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
> purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That 
> is not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. 
> Are people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas calls 
> them secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like safe 
> combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can find 
> them. 
> Thanks as always for any help.
> Max.
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Re: Keychain

[E.T.]

   1Password might be an option. Its cross platform friendly.

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On 1/14/2018 5:01 PM, Agent086b wrote:

Hi all,
I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my passwords 
etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were purchased by Log 
Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That is not much except the 
Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. Are people using Keychain? 
if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas calls them secure notes. In notes I 
store passwords for Apps and things like safe combination for a safe and other 
things that if I have died my wife can find them.
Thanks as always for any help.
Max.



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Re: Keychain

[Agent086b]

Thanks for the reply.
The only devices at this time to access Keychain would be Apple devices. I am 
not so sure about storing the other things in notes. I will have to think about 
this carefully.
Max.
> On 15 Jan 2018, at 12:09 pm, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> I use Keychain, but I use it to store passwords I come up with. It offers, 
> but I don't let it generate passwords for me. A few things about Keychain:
> 
> * It's not for documents, notes, or anything else. It stores secure 
> information, like credit card details or passwords, for auto-fill in websites 
> and apps. To store notes, you'd use the Notes app, optionally 
> password-protecting them.
> 
> * Keychain is only available for Apple products. The moment you want to 
> auto-fill your password from Keychain on Windows or Android, you're out of 
> luck. This isn't a problem if you live in Apple World as my family does, but 
> it's worth keeping in mind and could be a show-stopper for plenty of users.
> 
> * It can be a little complex to set up, using a different code to enable on 
> macOS and doing some other funny things. It's not bad, but it's not a simple 
> checkbox either.
> 
> * Oddly, it will auto-fill at your request. That is, you can use it with no 
> additional security. On iOS, for instance, you can let it fill in a card or 
> password, no Touch ID necessary. Of course, your device has to be unlocked, 
> but it's still worth remembering that anyone can log in or fill in cards if 
> they have your unlocked device. They can't see passwords, and auto-filled 
> cards that need a security code still make you enter the code.
> 
> That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 20:01, Agent086b > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
>> passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
>> purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That 
>> is not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. 
>> Are people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas 
>> calls them secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like 
>> safe combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can 
>> find them. 
>> Thanks as always for any help.
>> Max.
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RE: Keychain

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Thomas,

 The key chain in the mac / IOS platforms is really limited to the password and 
related security features of the device,

 Certificates etc.

However with the new file app on the iPhone you may get the best of both worlds 
with secure document management but I've not really looked in to it yet do use 
the key chain on iphone and mac book air.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Agent086b
Sent: Monday, 15 January 2018 2:02 PM
To: Mac List 
Subject: Keychain

Hi all,
I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That is 
not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. Are 
people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas calls them 
secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like safe 
combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can find 
them. 
Thanks as always for any help.
Max.

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RE: Keychain

[Simon Fogarty]

Ok, this is getting confusing,

I take it that there is an app called keychain

Because the mac os and IOS platform have a built in feature called the keychain.


Which stores passwords and certs etc
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Monday, 15 January 2018 2:09 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Keychain

I use Keychain, but I use it to store passwords I come up with. It offers, but 
I don't let it generate passwords for me. A few things about Keychain:

* It's not for documents, notes, or anything else. It stores secure 
information, like credit card details or passwords, for auto-fill in websites 
and apps. To store notes, you'd use the Notes app, optionally 
password-protecting them.

* Keychain is only available for Apple products. The moment you want to 
auto-fill your password from Keychain on Windows or Android, you're out of 
luck. This isn't a problem if you live in Apple World as my family does, but 
it's worth keeping in mind and could be a show-stopper for plenty of users.

* It can be a little complex to set up, using a different code to enable on 
macOS and doing some other funny things. It's not bad, but it's not a simple 
checkbox either.

* Oddly, it will auto-fill at your request. That is, you can use it with no 
additional security. On iOS, for instance, you can let it fill in a card or 
password, no Touch ID necessary. Of course, your device has to be unlocked, but 
it's still worth remembering that anyone can log in or fill in cards if they 
have your unlocked device. They can't see passwords, and auto-filled cards that 
need a security code still make you enter the code.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

--
Alex Hall





On Jan 14, 2018, at 20:01, Agent086b 
mailto:agent0...@internode.on.net>> wrote:

Hi all,
I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That is 
not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. Are 
people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas calls them 
secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like safe 
combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can find 
them.
Thanks as always for any help.
Max.

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Re: Keychain

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

I'm also in the process of leaving Last Pass.

I'm currently working on switching to Pass:

https://www.passwordstore.org/


I'm currently at a threshold problem in this process--I need to update
my gpg keys, and that's become an issue for reasons I won't bore you
with.

However, I'm attacted to Pass because:

*   It offers clients for all my OS platforms and smart devices,
*   including integration with most of my browsers

*   If a browser I use doesn't have a Pass plugin, I can use the
*   cliboard easily

*   I really, really like the organizational structure of Pass,
*   where every site's data is ina single file unlockable by your
*   gpg key. That makes Pass highly portable, fully accessible, and
*   quite secure, imo.

Just my contribution to the question. The app you're looking at may be
an excellent app. I've no knowledge of that.

Janina

Agent086b writes:
> Hi all,
> I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
> passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
> purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That 
> is not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. 
> Are people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas calls 
> them secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like safe 
> combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can find 
> them. 
> Thanks as always for any help.
> Max.
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Re: Keychain

[Alex Hall]

I read the original message as talking about the Apple service called Keychain. 
I hope I interpreted things correctly.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 15, 2018, at 03:44, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Ok, this is getting confusing,
>  
> I take it that there is an app called keychain
>  
> Because the mac os and IOS platform have a built in feature called the 
> keychain.
>  
>  
> Which stores passwords and certs etc
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Monday, 15 January 2018 2:09 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Keychain
>  
> I use Keychain, but I use it to store passwords I come up with. It offers, 
> but I don't let it generate passwords for me. A few things about Keychain:
>  
> * It's not for documents, notes, or anything else. It stores secure 
> information, like credit card details or passwords, for auto-fill in websites 
> and apps. To store notes, you'd use the Notes app, optionally 
> password-protecting them.
>  
> * Keychain is only available for Apple products. The moment you want to 
> auto-fill your password from Keychain on Windows or Android, you're out of 
> luck. This isn't a problem if you live in Apple World as my family does, but 
> it's worth keeping in mind and could be a show-stopper for plenty of users.
>  
> * It can be a little complex to set up, using a different code to enable on 
> macOS and doing some other funny things. It's not bad, but it's not a simple 
> checkbox either.
>  
> * Oddly, it will auto-fill at your request. That is, you can use it with no 
> additional security. On iOS, for instance, you can let it fill in a card or 
> password, no Touch ID necessary. Of course, your device has to be unlocked, 
> but it's still worth remembering that anyone can log in or fill in cards if 
> they have your unlocked device. They can't see passwords, and auto-filled 
> cards that need a security code still make you enter the code.
>  
> That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 20:01, Agent086b  wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
> passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
> purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That 
> is not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. 
> Are people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas calls 
> them secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like safe 
> combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can find 
> them. 
> Thanks as always for any help.
> Max.
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Re: Keychain

[Agent086b]

Hi,
you are correct. I was talking about the service  Apple Keychain.
Max.

> On 16 Jan 2018, at 12:37 am, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> I read the original message as talking about the Apple service called 
> Keychain. I hope I interpreted things correctly.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 15, 2018, at 03:44, Simon Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Ok, this is getting confusing,
>>  
>> I take it that there is an app called keychain
>>  
>> Because the mac os and IOS platform have a built in feature called the 
>> keychain.
>>  
>>  
>> Which stores passwords and certs etc
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Monday, 15 January 2018 2:09 PM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> Subject: Re: Keychain
>>  
>> I use Keychain, but I use it to store passwords I come up with. It offers, 
>> but I don't let it generate passwords for me. A few things about Keychain:
>>  
>> * It's not for documents, notes, or anything else. It stores secure 
>> information, like credit card details or passwords, for auto-fill in 
>> websites and apps. To store notes, you'd use the Notes app, optionally 
>> password-protecting them.
>>  
>> * Keychain is only available for Apple products. The moment you want to 
>> auto-fill your password from Keychain on Windows or Android, you're out of 
>> luck. This isn't a problem if you live in Apple World as my family does, but 
>> it's worth keeping in mind and could be a show-stopper for plenty of users.
>>  
>> * It can be a little complex to set up, using a different code to enable on 
>> macOS and doing some other funny things. It's not bad, but it's not a simple 
>> checkbox either.
>>  
>> * Oddly, it will auto-fill at your request. That is, you can use it with no 
>> additional security. On iOS, for instance, you can let it fill in a card or 
>> password, no Touch ID necessary. Of course, your device has to be unlocked, 
>> but it's still worth remembering that anyone can log in or fill in cards if 
>> they have your unlocked device. They can't see passwords, and auto-filled 
>> cards that need a security code still make you enter the code.
>>  
>> That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
>> 
>> --
>> Alex Hall
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 20:01, Agent086b > <mailto:agent0...@internode.on.net>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi all,
>> I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
>> passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
>> purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. That 
>> is not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c US. 
>> Are people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas 
>> calls them secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things like 
>> safe combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my wife can 
>> find them. 
>> Thanks as always for any help.
>> Max.
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Re: Keychain

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Well, i should probably add that I've never called them myself. Myh
knowledge of them is based on reports from Microsoft staff participating
in the W3C Working Group I chair--that's the good authority to which I
refer.

I do not expect to call them. That's because I purchased an OEM license
of Windows 10. While, like so many, I didn't stop to read all the terms,
it's my understanding that OEM licenses do not include technical
support. Ergo, I don't expect to be calling them over any issue I may
encounter. That was my decision to save $48 on the license.

Janina

Alex Hall writes:
> I read the original message as talking about the Apple service called 
> Keychain. I hope I interpreted things correctly.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jan 15, 2018, at 03:44, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> > 
> > Ok, this is getting confusing,
> >  
> > I take it that there is an app called keychain
> >  
> > Because the mac os and IOS platform have a built in feature called the 
> > keychain.
> >  
> >  
> > Which stores passwords and certs etc
> > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> > Sent: Monday, 15 January 2018 2:09 PM
> > To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> > Subject: Re: Keychain
> >  
> > I use Keychain, but I use it to store passwords I come up with. It offers, 
> > but I don't let it generate passwords for me. A few things about Keychain:
> >  
> > * It's not for documents, notes, or anything else. It stores secure 
> > information, like credit card details or passwords, for auto-fill in 
> > websites and apps. To store notes, you'd use the Notes app, optionally 
> > password-protecting them.
> >  
> > * Keychain is only available for Apple products. The moment you want to 
> > auto-fill your password from Keychain on Windows or Android, you're out of 
> > luck. This isn't a problem if you live in Apple World as my family does, 
> > but it's worth keeping in mind and could be a show-stopper for plenty of 
> > users.
> >  
> > * It can be a little complex to set up, using a different code to enable on 
> > macOS and doing some other funny things. It's not bad, but it's not a 
> > simple checkbox either.
> >  
> > * Oddly, it will auto-fill at your request. That is, you can use it with no 
> > additional security. On iOS, for instance, you can let it fill in a card or 
> > password, no Touch ID necessary. Of course, your device has to be unlocked, 
> > but it's still worth remembering that anyone can log in or fill in cards if 
> > they have your unlocked device. They can't see passwords, and auto-filled 
> > cards that need a security code still make you enter the code.
> >  
> > That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
> > 
> > --
> > Alex Hall
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > On Jan 14, 2018, at 20:01, Agent086b  wrote:
> >  
> > Hi all,
> > I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
> > passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they were 
> > purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per year. 
> > That is not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 70c  & 80c 
> > US. Are people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents or as Lastpas 
> > calls them secure notes. In notes I store passwords for Apps and things 
> > like safe combination for a safe and other things that if I have died my 
> > wife can find them. 
> > Thanks as always for any help.
> > Max.
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Re: Keychain

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Oops. My apologies, everyone. This message was accidently posted to the
wrong thread. Sorry about that!

Janina


'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
> Well, i should probably add that I've never called them myself. Myh
> knowledge of them is based on reports from Microsoft staff participating
> in the W3C Working Group I chair--that's the good authority to which I
> refer.
> 
> I do not expect to call them. That's because I purchased an OEM license
> of Windows 10. While, like so many, I didn't stop to read all the terms,
> it's my understanding that OEM licenses do not include technical
> support. Ergo, I don't expect to be calling them over any issue I may
> encounter. That was my decision to save $48 on the license.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Alex Hall writes:
> > I read the original message as talking about the Apple service called 
> > Keychain. I hope I interpreted things correctly.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > > On Jan 15, 2018, at 03:44, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Ok, this is getting confusing,
> > >  
> > > I take it that there is an app called keychain
> > >  
> > > Because the mac os and IOS platform have a built in feature called the 
> > > keychain.
> > >  
> > >  
> > > Which stores passwords and certs etc
> > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> > > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> > > Sent: Monday, 15 January 2018 2:09 PM
> > > To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> > > Subject: Re: Keychain
> > >  
> > > I use Keychain, but I use it to store passwords I come up with. It 
> > > offers, but I don't let it generate passwords for me. A few things about 
> > > Keychain:
> > >  
> > > * It's not for documents, notes, or anything else. It stores secure 
> > > information, like credit card details or passwords, for auto-fill in 
> > > websites and apps. To store notes, you'd use the Notes app, optionally 
> > > password-protecting them.
> > >  
> > > * Keychain is only available for Apple products. The moment you want to 
> > > auto-fill your password from Keychain on Windows or Android, you're out 
> > > of luck. This isn't a problem if you live in Apple World as my family 
> > > does, but it's worth keeping in mind and could be a show-stopper for 
> > > plenty of users.
> > >  
> > > * It can be a little complex to set up, using a different code to enable 
> > > on macOS and doing some other funny things. It's not bad, but it's not a 
> > > simple checkbox either.
> > >  
> > > * Oddly, it will auto-fill at your request. That is, you can use it with 
> > > no additional security. On iOS, for instance, you can let it fill in a 
> > > card or password, no Touch ID necessary. Of course, your device has to be 
> > > unlocked, but it's still worth remembering that anyone can log in or fill 
> > > in cards if they have your unlocked device. They can't see passwords, and 
> > > auto-filled cards that need a security code still make you enter the code.
> > >  
> > > That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Alex Hall
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Jan 14, 2018, at 20:01, Agent086b  wrote:
> > >  
> > > Hi all,
> > > I am thinking of switching later this year to using Keychain to store my 
> > > passwords etc. I have been using Lastpas since about 2010. Since they 
> > > were purchased by Log Me In INC the price has doubled to $24.00 US per 
> > > year. That is not much except the Australian Dollar is usually between 
> > > 70c  & 80c US. Are people using Keychain? if so can you store  documents 
> > > or as Lastpas calls them secure notes. In notes I store passwords for 
> > > Apps and things like safe combination for a safe and other things that if 
> > > I have died my wife can find them. 
> > > Thanks as always for any help.
> > > Max.
> > > 
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Re: Keychain

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, When you go to a website where keychain has your log in credentials saved, 
you will see it ask you if you want to log into the website using the username 
or email you provided then next to that you will get a button that says log in 
with and it will say your username. double tap on that button and you will have 
to authenticate with FaceID or Touch ID.

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> On Feb 28, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> if keychain is turned on, how does it look on an ios device, say, a phone? 
> I'm familiar with how to use command-shift-a to fill in username and password 
> on a Mac but I don't know what to look for on my phone. I'm not even sure if 
> it's turned on or not although I know I tried to turn it on once.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

I don't have face ID or touch ID enabled. do I need one of those to activate 
keychain on an IOS device?

> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Hi, When you go to a website where keychain has your log in credentials 
> saved, you will see it ask you if you want to log into the website using the 
> username or email you provided then next to that you will get a button that 
> says log in with and it will say your username. double tap on that button and 
> you will have to authenticate with FaceID or Touch ID.
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>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> if keychain is turned on, how does it look on an ios device, say, a phone? 
>> I'm familiar with how to use command-shift-a to fill in username and 
>> password on a Mac but I don't know what to look for on my phone. I'm not 
>> even sure if it's turned on or not although I know I tried to turn it on 
>> once.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
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Re: Keychain

[Barry Hadder]

hi,
You don't need any of that.  You might need to enter your pass code though.


> On Feb 29, 2020, at 17:29, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I don't have face ID or touch ID enabled. do I need one of those to activate 
> keychain on an IOS device?
> 
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>> Hi, When you go to a website where keychain has your log in credentials 
>> saved, you will see it ask you if you want to log into the website using the 
>> username or email you provided then next to that you will get a button that 
>> says log in with and it will say your username. double tap on that button 
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>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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>>> if keychain is turned on, how does it look on an ios device, say, a phone? 
>>> I'm familiar with how to use command-shift-a to fill in username and 
>>> password on a Mac but I don't know what to look for on my phone. I'm not 
>>> even sure if it's turned on or not although I know I tried to turn it on 
>>> once.
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>>> thanks.
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Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

can you tell me how to activate it?

thanks.
Lorie



> On Mar 1, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> You don't need any of that.  You might need to enter your pass code though.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 17:29, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't have face ID or touch ID enabled. do I need one of those to activate 
>> keychain on an IOS device?
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, When you go to a website where keychain has your log in credentials 
>>> saved, you will see it ask you if you want to log into the website using 
>>> the username or email you provided then next to that you will get a button 
>>> that says log in with and it will say your username. double tap on that 
>>> button and you will have to authenticate with FaceID or Touch ID.
>>> 
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 On Feb 28, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
 
 if keychain is turned on, how does it look on an ios device, say, a 
 phone? I'm familiar with how to use command-shift-a to fill in username 
 and password on a Mac but I don't know what to look for on my phone. I'm 
 not even sure if it's turned on or not although I know I tried to turn it 
 on once.
 
 thanks.
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Re: Keychain

[Maria Reyes]

Go to settings, find your name and double tap on it. Find iCloud, then find the 
button that says Keychain off and toggle it to on. you might have to enter your 
Apple ID password.

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> On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:54 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> can you tell me how to activate it?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
>> 
>> hi,
>> You don't need any of that.  You might need to enter your pass code though.
>> 
>> 
 On Feb 29, 2020, at 17:29, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't have face ID or touch ID enabled. do I need one of those to 
>>> activate keychain on an IOS device?
>>> 
 On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
 
 Hi, When you go to a website where keychain has your log in credentials 
 saved, you will see it ask you if you want to log into the website using 
 the username or email you provided then next to that you will get a button 
 that says log in with and it will say your username. double tap on that 
 button and you will have to authenticate with FaceID or Touch ID.
 
 Interested in a group where we talk everything Apple products? Join the 
 VIP Apple Users group on WhatsApp! Just email me at 
 maria.reyes1...@gmail.com with your WhatsApp info and I will add you.
 
> On Feb 28, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> if keychain is turned on, how does it look on an ios device, say, a 
> phone? I'm familiar with how to use command-shift-a to fill in username 
> and password on a Mac but I don't know what to look for on my phone. I'm 
> not even sure if it's turned on or not although I know I tried to turn it 
> on once.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
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Re: Keychain

[Dave Carlson]

Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access is an 
app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud passwords and logons.


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Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I guess 
that's not where it is.

thanks.
Lorie

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access is 
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Re: Keychain

[Dave Carlson]

Lorie,
Go to your Applications folder. It’s either there, or in the Utilities folder 
under Applications.


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Re: Keychain

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If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.


> On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I guess 
> that's not where it is.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access is 
>> an app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud passwords and 
>> logons.
>> 
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Re: Keychain

[Brad Snyder]

FYI - In macOS Catalina, iCloud preferences has been changed to Apple ID.  Once 
you find it, it is pretty much the same as when it was called iCloud in 
previous macOS versions.

HTH

- Brad -


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If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.


> On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
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> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
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Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
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> If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
> In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
> interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.
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>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
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>> can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I guess 
>> that's not where it is.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
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>>> Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access is 
>>> an app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud passwords and 
>>> logons.
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Re: Keychain

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   There is no iCloud preferences. Open System Preferences, Internet, 
choose the account you want and in the table you will find Keychain 
where you can enable it.


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On 3/4/2020 5:17 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?

On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder > wrote:


If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it. 
 Then interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.



On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud > wrote:


can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I 
guess that's not where it is.


thanks.
Lorie

On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson > wrote:


Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain 
Access is an app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud 
passwords and logons.



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Re: Keychain

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i thought you said you went to iCloud prefs.  That is where it is in Mojave.
In Catalina you will go to internet accounts.


> On Mar 4, 2020, at 19:17, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder > > wrote:
>> 
>> If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
>> In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
>> interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I guess 
>>> that's not where it is.
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson >>> > wrote:
 
 Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access 
 is an app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud passwords and 
 logons.
 
 
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Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

I did say I went to iCloud in system prefs. didn't have much luck the first 
time I tried it but after you described to me how to do it, I think I got that 
box checked. I'm still running Mojave.

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
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> i thought you said you went to iCloud prefs.  That is where it is in Mojave.
> In Catalina you will go to internet accounts.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 19:17, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
>>> In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
>>> interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud >>> > wrote:
 
 can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I 
 guess that's not where it is.
 
 thanks.
 Lorie
 
> On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson  > wrote:
> 
> Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access 
> is an app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud passwords and 
> logons.
> 
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Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

I didn't go to internet accounts. I did go to iCloud. it's listed in system 
prefs. where I seem to run into trouble is knowing when to interact and what to 
interact with. if I don't do that right I don't find half of what's in there.

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 7:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
>   There is no iCloud preferences. Open System Preferences, Internet, choose 
> the account you want and in the table you will find Keychain where you can 
> enable it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> Many believe that we have been visited
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> On 3/4/2020 5:17 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?
>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
>>> In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
>>> interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud >>> > wrote:
 
 can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I 
 guess that's not where it is.
 
 thanks.
 Lorie
 
> On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson  > wrote:
> 
> Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access 
> is an app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud passwords and 
> logons.
> 
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Re: Keychain

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Well, glad you got it.
When ever the vo cursor moves over something that can be interacted with, there 
is a sound effect and if it is a group of items it will also say group.  It 
makes vo navigation much faster, but it is something to get used to.

in the vo help menu, there is a list of most if not all of the vo navigation 
sounds.  You can just arrow through them.  i am assuming that you can hear.  If 
not then of course that won’t be of much help.


> On Mar 4, 2020, at 21:38, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I didn't go to internet accounts. I did go to iCloud. it's listed in system 
> prefs. where I seem to run into trouble is knowing when to interact and what 
> to interact with. if I don't do that right I don't find half of what's in 
> there.
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 7:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  There is no iCloud preferences. Open System Preferences, Internet, choose 
>> the account you want and in the table you will find Keychain where you can 
>> enable it.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 3/4/2020 5:17 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>> where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?
 On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder >>> > wrote:
 
 If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
 In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
 interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.
 
 
> On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I 
> guess that's not where it is.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access 
>> is an app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud passwords 
>> and logons.
>> 
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Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

this is helpful info. I didn't know at all. oh yes. I can hear. thanks for 
this. often I hear sounds but I don't know what they mean.

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 10:19 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
> Well, glad you got it.
> When ever the vo cursor moves over something that can be interacted with, 
> there is a sound effect and if it is a group of items it will also say group. 
>  It makes vo navigation much faster, but it is something to get used to.
> 
> in the vo help menu, there is a list of most if not all of the vo navigation 
> sounds.  You can just arrow through them.  i am assuming that you can hear.  
> If not then of course that won’t be of much help.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 21:38, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I didn't go to internet accounts. I did go to iCloud. it's listed in system 
>> prefs. where I seem to run into trouble is knowing when to interact and what 
>> to interact with. if I don't do that right I don't find half of what's in 
>> there.
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 7:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is no iCloud preferences. Open System Preferences, Internet, choose 
>>> the account you want and in the table you will find Keychain where you can 
>>> enable it.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 3/4/2020 5:17 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
 where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?
> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder  > wrote:
> 
> If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
> In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  
> Then interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I 
>> guess that's not where it is.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain 
>>> Access is an app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud 
>>> passwords and logons.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dave Carlson
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>>> 
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Re: Keychain

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   There is also Help Tags, executed with VO-Shift-H.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/4/2020 11:14 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

this is helpful info. I didn't know at all. oh yes. I can hear. thanks for 
this. often I hear sounds but I don't know what they mean.


On Mar 4, 2020, at 10:19 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:

Well, glad you got it.
When ever the vo cursor moves over something that can be interacted with, there 
is a sound effect and if it is a group of items it will also say group.  It 
makes vo navigation much faster, but it is something to get used to.

in the vo help menu, there is a list of most if not all of the vo navigation 
sounds.  You can just arrow through them.  i am assuming that you can hear.  If 
not then of course that won’t be of much help.



On Mar 4, 2020, at 21:38, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I didn't go to internet accounts. I did go to iCloud. it's listed in system 
prefs. where I seem to run into trouble is knowing when to interact and what to 
interact with. if I don't do that right I don't find half of what's in there.


On Mar 4, 2020, at 7:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

There is no iCloud preferences. Open System Preferences, Internet, choose the 
account you want and in the table you will find Keychain where you can enable 
it.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/4/2020 5:17 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?

On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.



On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:

can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I guess 
that's not where it is.

thanks.
Lorie


On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access is an 
app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud passwords and logons.


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RE: Keychain

[M. Taylor]

Hello Lorie,

You ask a simple question but, I’m afraid, the answer is not so simple.

Let me start by saying that I think the Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, 
is an excellent alternative to some third-party password managers.

It's safe, easy to use, consistent across all of your Apple devices, and free, 
as it were.

In short, there are two general methods for using Apple Key Chain, as a 
password manager.  The first method, which is what I suspect you wish to learn 
how to use, is to have the Key Chain automatically enter your login credentials 
when prompted by an app or a website.

The second method is to open the Key Chain password manager and lookup the 
login credentials, manually.

I suggest that you read the Apple user manuals and search for relative topics 
via Google as, in my opinion, there are just too many variables and nuances of 
Key Chain, as a password manager, to cover in one succinct reply.

However, I will list the following points that you should keep in mind when 
exploring the Apple Key Chain as a password manager.

Please keep in mind that I am referring to the automatic entry feature of the 
Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, only:

1.
Generally speaking, the Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, works best when 
logging into websites via Safari.

2.
Many websites will not function-as-expected with the Apple Key Chain, as a 
password manager.

3.
While some third-party apps, such as those developed by Google, will work with 
the Apple Key Chain, as an automatic-entry password manager, many more will not 
function as expected.

4.
In some situations, when you want to use the Key Chain password manager feature 
with an app, such as BARD Mobile for iOS, you will need to first login to the 
service, via Safari, then when prompted, save the password.  Afterwards, when 
you are prompted to enter the username and/or password from within the app, you 
can launch the Key Chain manager and have it enter your credentials, 
automatically.

Possible Scenario in which you want to have your login credentials 
automatically entered into a third-party app that does not support the Apple 
Key Chain password manager, in iOS:

Assuming that you have the Apple Key Chain enabled as described in the Apple 
user manuals:  

1.
Open Mark's Wonderful App, on your Apple device.  You are prompted for your 
login credentials.

2.
Enter your credentials and select the continue / OK button.  You are logged 
into the app without being prompted to save your credentials in the Apple Key 
Chain.

3.
Logout of Mark's Wonderful App.

4.
Open Safari and go to www.MarksWonderfulAppsOnlineWebsite.

5.
Login to your account using your credentials.  Hopefully, you are prompted to 
save your login credentials to the Apple Key Chain.

6.
Save your credentials to the Key Chain.

7. 
Logout of your account and close Safari.

8.
Open Mark's Wonderful App, on your Apple device.  You are prompted for your 
login credentials.

9.
Activate an edit field, for example, the username or email edit field.  The 
onscreen keyboard will appear.

10.
In the suggestion area of the onscreen keyboard, either select the correct 
option, if listed or, select the "passwords" button.  Doing this will cause 
your device to prompt you to authenticate your request.

11.
After successful authentication, you will see a list of all of your saved 
accounts and credentials.

12.
Select the correct option and the credentials will be automatically entered 
into the login text edit fields of Mark's Wonderful App.

13.
Select the continue / OK button.

14.
Put a big smile on your face.

Good Luck,

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:45 PM
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Keychain

I have tried to set things on my Mac and on my phone so that keychain works but 
I still can't find the option to use it when I'm asked to sign in somewhere on 
my phone. where is it on the screen? or perhaps there's another problem. 
suggestions?

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

Hi Mark,

you're right. it's complicated. Safari is the only browser I use but I was 
expecting it to be as easy to use as the saved credentials are on a Mac. not 
that I don't have all my passwords written down but since they're already saved 
in Safari on my Mac I was hoping to use a few of them on my phone. oh well... 
I'll play around with it and see what happens.

Lorie

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Lorie,
> 
> You ask a simple question but, I’m afraid, the answer is not so simple.
> 
> Let me start by saying that I think the Apple Key Chain, as a password 
> manager, is an excellent alternative to some third-party password managers.
> 
> It's safe, easy to use, consistent across all of your Apple devices, and 
> free, as it were.
> 
> In short, there are two general methods for using Apple Key Chain, as a 
> password manager.  The first method, which is what I suspect you wish to 
> learn how to use, is to have the Key Chain automatically enter your login 
> credentials when prompted by an app or a website.
> 
> The second method is to open the Key Chain password manager and lookup the 
> login credentials, manually.
> 
> I suggest that you read the Apple user manuals and search for relative topics 
> via Google as, in my opinion, there are just too many variables and nuances 
> of Key Chain, as a password manager, to cover in one succinct reply.
> 
> However, I will list the following points that you should keep in mind when 
> exploring the Apple Key Chain as a password manager.
> 
> Please keep in mind that I am referring to the automatic entry feature of the 
> Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, only:
> 
> 1.
> Generally speaking, the Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, works best 
> when logging into websites via Safari.
> 
> 2.
> Many websites will not function-as-expected with the Apple Key Chain, as a 
> password manager.
> 
> 3.
> While some third-party apps, such as those developed by Google, will work 
> with the Apple Key Chain, as an automatic-entry password manager, many more 
> will not function as expected.
> 
> 4.
> In some situations, when you want to use the Key Chain password manager 
> feature with an app, such as BARD Mobile for iOS, you will need to first 
> login to the service, via Safari, then when prompted, save the password.  
> Afterwards, when you are prompted to enter the username and/or password from 
> within the app, you can launch the Key Chain manager and have it enter your 
> credentials, automatically.
> 
> Possible Scenario in which you want to have your login credentials 
> automatically entered into a third-party app that does not support the Apple 
> Key Chain password manager, in iOS:
> 
> Assuming that you have the Apple Key Chain enabled as described in the Apple 
> user manuals:  
> 
> 1.
> Open Mark's Wonderful App, on your Apple device.  You are prompted for your 
> login credentials.
> 
> 2.
> Enter your credentials and select the continue / OK button.  You are logged 
> into the app without being prompted to save your credentials in the Apple Key 
> Chain.
> 
> 3.
> Logout of Mark's Wonderful App.
> 
> 4.
> Open Safari and go to www.MarksWonderfulAppsOnlineWebsite.
> 
> 5.
> Login to your account using your credentials.  Hopefully, you are prompted to 
> save your login credentials to the Apple Key Chain.
> 
> 6.
> Save your credentials to the Key Chain.
> 
> 7. 
> Logout of your account and close Safari.
> 
> 8.
> Open Mark's Wonderful App, on your Apple device.  You are prompted for your 
> login credentials.
> 
> 9.
> Activate an edit field, for example, the username or email edit field.  The 
> onscreen keyboard will appear.
> 
> 10.
> In the suggestion area of the onscreen keyboard, either select the correct 
> option, if listed or, select the "passwords" button.  Doing this will cause 
> your device to prompt you to authenticate your request.
> 
> 11.
> After successful authentication, you will see a list of all of your saved 
> accounts and credentials.
> 
> 12.
> Select the correct option and the credentials will be automatically entered 
> into the login text edit fields of Mark's Wonderful App.
> 
> 13.
> Select the continue / OK button.
> 
> 14.
> Put a big smile on your face.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:45 PM
> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Keychain
> 
> I have tried to set things on my Mac and on my phone so that keychain works 
> but I still can't find the option to use it when I'm asked to sign in 
> somewhere on my phone. where is it on the screen? or perhaps there's another 
> problem. suggestions?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Keychain

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

When in Safari, double-tap either the username entry field, or the password 
entry field.  This will activate your cursor and bring up the on-screen 
keyboard.  This next part isn't consistent, as sometimes it takes more swipes 
than others, but, if you have a keychain entry for this item, there will either 
be a suggestion or a "Password" button as you swipe right from the entry fields.

So, for example, if you were on www.fitbit.com, and you double-tapped in the 
username field, then swiped right listening to the various elements announced 
by VO, you might get an item announced such as "Use Lori with such and such 
eMail address for fitbit.com?".  If that is the one you wish to use, then 
double-tap it.  If it is not, or if the keychain is having difficulties 
figuring out which entry to use, there will also be a Password button that you 
can use that will open up all entries in your keychain.  Your fingerprint or 
FaceID will be required in both cases to access the keychain entries.  Also, 
the actual passwords are not displayed, just the site and username 
possibilities.  If you do not get a specific suggestion, then simply swipe 
through the choices until you find the one you wish to use.  Double-tap on it 
and its credentials will be entered for you.  You will usually still need to 
double-tap the Sign-In or LogIn buttons to proceed, but this is also a little 
inconsistent.  I'm not sure if the inconsistencies are due to Apple or due to 
the inconsistent nature of web-page coding.

HTH.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 28, 2020, at 00:15, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

Hi Mark,

you're right. it's complicated. Safari is the only browser I use but I was 
expecting it to be as easy to use as the saved credentials are on a Mac. not 
that I don't have all my passwords written down but since they're already saved 
in Safari on my Mac I was hoping to use a few of them on my phone. oh well... 
I'll play around with it and see what happens.

Lorie

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Lorie,
> 
> You ask a simple question but, I’m afraid, the answer is not so simple.
> 
> Let me start by saying that I think the Apple Key Chain, as a password 
> manager, is an excellent alternative to some third-party password managers.
> 
> It's safe, easy to use, consistent across all of your Apple devices, and 
> free, as it were.
> 
> In short, there are two general methods for using Apple Key Chain, as a 
> password manager.  The first method, which is what I suspect you wish to 
> learn how to use, is to have the Key Chain automatically enter your login 
> credentials when prompted by an app or a website.
> 
> The second method is to open the Key Chain password manager and lookup the 
> login credentials, manually.
> 
> I suggest that you read the Apple user manuals and search for relative topics 
> via Google as, in my opinion, there are just too many variables and nuances 
> of Key Chain, as a password manager, to cover in one succinct reply.
> 
> However, I will list the following points that you should keep in mind when 
> exploring the Apple Key Chain as a password manager.
> 
> Please keep in mind that I am referring to the automatic entry feature of the 
> Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, only:
> 
> 1.
> Generally speaking, the Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, works best 
> when logging into websites via Safari.
> 
> 2.
> Many websites will not function-as-expected with the Apple Key Chain, as a 
> password manager.
> 
> 3.
> While some third-party apps, such as those developed by Google, will work 
> with the Apple Key Chain, as an automatic-entry password manager, many more 
> will not function as expected.
> 
> 4.
> In some situations, when you want to use the Key Chain password manager 
> feature with an app, such as BARD Mobile for iOS, you will need to first 
> login to the service, via Safari, then when prompted, save the password.  
> Afterwards, when you are prompted to enter the username and/or password from 
> within the app, you can launch the Key Chain manager and have it enter your 
> credentials, automatically.
> 
> Possible Scenario in which you want to have your login credentials 
> automatically entered into a third-party app that does not support the Apple 
> Key Chain password manager, in iOS:
> 
> Assuming that you have the Apple Key Chain enabled as described in the Apple 
> user manuals:  
> 
> 1.
> Open Mark's Wonderful App, on your Apple device.  You are prompted for your 
> login credentials.
> 
> 2.
> Enter your credentials and select the continue / OK button.  You are logged 
> into the app without being prompted to save your credentials in the Apple Key 
> Chain.
> 
> 3.
> Logout of Mark's Wonderful App.
> 
> 4.
> Open Safari and go to www.MarksWonderfulAppsOnlineWebsite.
> 
> 5.
> Login to your account using your credentials.  Hopefully, you are prompted t

Re: Keychain

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

I like my keychain to be simple.  If Mark’s wonderful keychain can keep my 
passwords safe especially if I rely on the keychain to remember my passwords 
for the websites I visit, then I am a happy person as I can’t remember 
generated passwords so I keep my passwords simple but strong for me to 
remember.  So Mark, how much is your wonderful keychain?

Kawal.

> On 28 Mar 2020, at 15:14, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> When in Safari, double-tap either the username entry field, or the password 
> entry field.  This will activate your cursor and bring up the on-screen 
> keyboard.  This next part isn't consistent, as sometimes it takes more swipes 
> than others, but, if you have a keychain entry for this item, there will 
> either be a suggestion or a "Password" button as you swipe right from the 
> entry fields.
> 
> So, for example, if you were on www.fitbit.com , and 
> you double-tapped in the username field, then swiped right listening to the 
> various elements announced by VO, you might get an item announced such as 
> "Use Lori with such and such eMail address for fitbit.com 
> ?".  If that is the one you wish to use, then double-tap 
> it.  If it is not, or if the keychain is having difficulties figuring out 
> which entry to use, there will also be a Password button that you can use 
> that will open up all entries in your keychain.  Your fingerprint or FaceID 
> will be required in both cases to access the keychain entries.  Also, the 
> actual passwords are not displayed, just the site and username possibilities. 
>  If you do not get a specific suggestion, then simply swipe through the 
> choices until you find the one you wish to use.  Double-tap on it and its 
> credentials will be entered for you.  You will usually still need to 
> double-tap the Sign-In or LogIn buttons to proceed, but this is also a little 
> inconsistent.  I'm not sure if the inconsistencies are due to Apple or due to 
> the inconsistent nature of web-page coding.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 28, 2020, at 00:15, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> you're right. it's complicated. Safari is the only browser I use but I was 
> expecting it to be as easy to use as the saved credentials are on a Mac. not 
> that I don't have all my passwords written down but since they're already 
> saved in Safari on my Mac I was hoping to use a few of them on my phone. oh 
> well... I'll play around with it and see what happens.
> 
> Lorie
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Lorie,
>> 
>> You ask a simple question but, I’m afraid, the answer is not so simple.
>> 
>> Let me start by saying that I think the Apple Key Chain, as a password 
>> manager, is an excellent alternative to some third-party password managers.
>> 
>> It's safe, easy to use, consistent across all of your Apple devices, and 
>> free, as it were.
>> 
>> In short, there are two general methods for using Apple Key Chain, as a 
>> password manager.  The first method, which is what I suspect you wish to 
>> learn how to use, is to have the Key Chain automatically enter your login 
>> credentials when prompted by an app or a website.
>> 
>> The second method is to open the Key Chain password manager and lookup the 
>> login credentials, manually.
>> 
>> I suggest that you read the Apple user manuals and search for relative 
>> topics via Google as, in my opinion, there are just too many variables and 
>> nuances of Key Chain, as a password manager, to cover in one succinct reply.
>> 
>> However, I will list the following points that you should keep in mind when 
>> exploring the Apple Key Chain as a password manager.
>> 
>> Please keep in mind that I am referring to the automatic entry feature of 
>> the Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, only:
>> 
>> 1.
>> Generally speaking, the Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, works best 
>> when logging into websites via Safari.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Many websites will not function-as-expected with the Apple Key Chain, as a 
>> password manager.
>> 
>> 3.
>> While some third-party apps, such as those developed by Google, will work 
>> with the Apple Key Chain, as an automatic-entry password manager, many more 
>> will not function as expected.
>> 
>> 4.
>> In some situations, when you want to use the Key Chain password manager 
>> feature with an app, such as BARD Mobile for iOS, you will need to first 
>> login to the service, via Safari, then when prompted, save the password.  
>> Afterwards, when you are prompted to enter the username and/or password from 
>> within the app, you can launch the Key Chain manager and have it enter your 
>> credentials, automatically.
>> 
>> Possible Scenario in which you want to have your login credentials 
>> autom

Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

are you saying that you have to have security code and/or fingerprint enabled 
in order to use keychain on your IOS device? 

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 6:17 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I like my keychain to be simple.  If Mark’s wonderful keychain can keep my 
> passwords safe especially if I rely on the keychain to remember my passwords 
> for the websites I visit, then I am a happy person as I can’t remember 
> generated passwords so I keep my passwords simple but strong for me to 
> remember.  So Mark, how much is your wonderful keychain?
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 28 Mar 2020, at 15:14, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> When in Safari, double-tap either the username entry field, or the password 
>> entry field.  This will activate your cursor and bring up the on-screen 
>> keyboard.  This next part isn't consistent, as sometimes it takes more 
>> swipes than others, but, if you have a keychain entry for this item, there 
>> will either be a suggestion or a "Password" button as you swipe right from 
>> the entry fields.
>> 
>> So, for example, if you were on www.fitbit.com , and 
>> you double-tapped in the username field, then swiped right listening to the 
>> various elements announced by VO, you might get an item announced such as 
>> "Use Lori with such and such eMail address for fitbit.com 
>> ?".  If that is the one you wish to use, then double-tap 
>> it.  If it is not, or if the keychain is having difficulties figuring out 
>> which entry to use, there will also be a Password button that you can use 
>> that will open up all entries in your keychain.  Your fingerprint or FaceID 
>> will be required in both cases to access the keychain entries.  Also, the 
>> actual passwords are not displayed, just the site and username 
>> possibilities.  If you do not get a specific suggestion, then simply swipe 
>> through the choices until you find the one you wish to use.  Double-tap on 
>> it and its credentials will be entered for you.  You will usually still need 
>> to double-tap the Sign-In or LogIn buttons to proceed, but this is also a 
>> little inconsistent.  I'm not sure if the inconsistencies are due to Apple 
>> or due to the inconsistent nature of web-page coding.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 00:15, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> you're right. it's complicated. Safari is the only browser I use but I was 
>> expecting it to be as easy to use as the saved credentials are on a Mac. not 
>> that I don't have all my passwords written down but since they're already 
>> saved in Safari on my Mac I was hoping to use a few of them on my phone. oh 
>> well... I'll play around with it and see what happens.
>> 
>> Lorie
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Lorie,
>>> 
>>> You ask a simple question but, I’m afraid, the answer is not so simple.
>>> 
>>> Let me start by saying that I think the Apple Key Chain, as a password 
>>> manager, is an excellent alternative to some third-party password managers.
>>> 
>>> It's safe, easy to use, consistent across all of your Apple devices, and 
>>> free, as it were.
>>> 
>>> In short, there are two general methods for using Apple Key Chain, as a 
>>> password manager.  The first method, which is what I suspect you wish to 
>>> learn how to use, is to have the Key Chain automatically enter your login 
>>> credentials when prompted by an app or a website.
>>> 
>>> The second method is to open the Key Chain password manager and lookup the 
>>> login credentials, manually.
>>> 
>>> I suggest that you read the Apple user manuals and search for relative 
>>> topics via Google as, in my opinion, there are just too many variables and 
>>> nuances of Key Chain, as a password manager, to cover in one succinct reply.
>>> 
>>> However, I will list the following points that you should keep in mind when 
>>> exploring the Apple Key Chain as a password manager.
>>> 
>>> Please keep in mind that I am referring to the automatic entry feature of 
>>> the Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, only:
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> Generally speaking, the Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, works best 
>>> when logging into websites via Safari.
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> Many websites will not function-as-expected with the Apple Key Chain, as a 
>>> password manager.
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> While some third-party apps, such as those developed by Google, will work 
>>> with the Apple Key Chain, as an automatic-entry password manager, many more 
>>> will not function as expected.
>>> 
>>> 4.
>>> In some situations, when you want to use the Key Chain password manager 
>>> feature with an app, such as BARD Mobile for iOS, you will 

Re: Keychain

[Brad Snyder]

Yes.  In order to use iCloud Keychain on your iOS device, you must have a 
passcode enabled.  Once you have a passcode, you may use either TouchID or 
FaceID, but this is optional.
Keychain will not work without security enabled.

HTH

- Brad -


On Mar 28, 2020, at 19:47, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

are you saying that you have to have security code and/or fingerprint enabled 
in order to use keychain on your IOS device? 

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 6:17 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I like my keychain to be simple.  If Mark’s wonderful keychain can keep my 
> passwords safe especially if I rely on the keychain to remember my passwords 
> for the websites I visit, then I am a happy person as I can’t remember 
> generated passwords so I keep my passwords simple but strong for me to 
> remember.  So Mark, how much is your wonderful keychain?
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 28 Mar 2020, at 15:14, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> When in Safari, double-tap either the username entry field, or the password 
>> entry field.  This will activate your cursor and bring up the on-screen 
>> keyboard.  This next part isn't consistent, as sometimes it takes more 
>> swipes than others, but, if you have a keychain entry for this item, there 
>> will either be a suggestion or a "Password" button as you swipe right from 
>> the entry fields.
>> 
>> So, for example, if you were on www.fitbit.com , and 
>> you double-tapped in the username field, then swiped right listening to the 
>> various elements announced by VO, you might get an item announced such as 
>> "Use Lori with such and such eMail address for fitbit.com 
>> ?".  If that is the one you wish to use, then double-tap 
>> it.  If it is not, or if the keychain is having difficulties figuring out 
>> which entry to use, there will also be a Password button that you can use 
>> that will open up all entries in your keychain.  Your fingerprint or FaceID 
>> will be required in both cases to access the keychain entries.  Also, the 
>> actual passwords are not displayed, just the site and username 
>> possibilities.  If you do not get a specific suggestion, then simply swipe 
>> through the choices until you find the one you wish to use.  Double-tap on 
>> it and its credentials will be entered for you.  You will usually still need 
>> to double-tap the Sign-In or LogIn buttons to proceed, but this is also a 
>> little inconsistent.  I'm not sure if the inconsistencies are due to Apple 
>> or due to the inconsistent nature of web-page coding.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 00:15, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> you're right. it's complicated. Safari is the only browser I use but I was 
>> expecting it to be as easy to use as the saved credentials are on a Mac. not 
>> that I don't have all my passwords written down but since they're already 
>> saved in Safari on my Mac I was hoping to use a few of them on my phone. oh 
>> well... I'll play around with it and see what happens.
>> 
>> Lorie
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Lorie,
>>> 
>>> You ask a simple question but, I’m afraid, the answer is not so simple.
>>> 
>>> Let me start by saying that I think the Apple Key Chain, as a password 
>>> manager, is an excellent alternative to some third-party password managers.
>>> 
>>> It's safe, easy to use, consistent across all of your Apple devices, and 
>>> free, as it were.
>>> 
>>> In short, there are two general methods for using Apple Key Chain, as a 
>>> password manager.  The first method, which is what I suspect you wish to 
>>> learn how to use, is to have the Key Chain automatically enter your login 
>>> credentials when prompted by an app or a website.
>>> 
>>> The second method is to open the Key Chain password manager and lookup the 
>>> login credentials, manually.
>>> 
>>> I suggest that you read the Apple user manuals and search for relative 
>>> topics via Google as, in my opinion, there are just too many variables and 
>>> nuances of Key Chain, as a password manager, to cover in one succinct reply.
>>> 
>>> However, I will list the following points that you should keep in mind when 
>>> exploring the Apple Key Chain as a password manager.
>>> 
>>> Please keep in mind that I am referring to the automatic entry feature of 
>>> the Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, only:
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> Generally speaking, the Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, works best 
>>> when logging into websites via Safari.
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> Many websites will not function-as-expected with the Apple Key Chain, as a 
>>> password manager.
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> Whi

Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

ok. that explains why I can't find it. thanks.

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:40 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Yes.  In order to use iCloud Keychain on your iOS device, you must have a 
> passcode enabled.  Once you have a passcode, you may use either TouchID or 
> FaceID, but this is optional.
> Keychain will not work without security enabled.
> 
> HTH
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Mar 28, 2020, at 19:47, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> are you saying that you have to have security code and/or fingerprint enabled 
> in order to use keychain on your IOS device? 
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 6:17 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I like my keychain to be simple.  If Mark’s wonderful keychain can keep my 
>> passwords safe especially if I rely on the keychain to remember my passwords 
>> for the websites I visit, then I am a happy person as I can’t remember 
>> generated passwords so I keep my passwords simple but strong for me to 
>> remember.  So Mark, how much is your wonderful keychain?
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>>> On 28 Mar 2020, at 15:14, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> When in Safari, double-tap either the username entry field, or the password 
>>> entry field.  This will activate your cursor and bring up the on-screen 
>>> keyboard.  This next part isn't consistent, as sometimes it takes more 
>>> swipes than others, but, if you have a keychain entry for this item, there 
>>> will either be a suggestion or a "Password" button as you swipe right from 
>>> the entry fields.
>>> 
>>> So, for example, if you were on www.fitbit.com , 
>>> and you double-tapped in the username field, then swiped right listening to 
>>> the various elements announced by VO, you might get an item announced such 
>>> as "Use Lori with such and such eMail address for fitbit.com 
>>> ?".  If that is the one you wish to use, then 
>>> double-tap it.  If it is not, or if the keychain is having difficulties 
>>> figuring out which entry to use, there will also be a Password button that 
>>> you can use that will open up all entries in your keychain.  Your 
>>> fingerprint or FaceID will be required in both cases to access the keychain 
>>> entries.  Also, the actual passwords are not displayed, just the site and 
>>> username possibilities.  If you do not get a specific suggestion, then 
>>> simply swipe through the choices until you find the one you wish to use.  
>>> Double-tap on it and its credentials will be entered for you.  You will 
>>> usually still need to double-tap the Sign-In or LogIn buttons to proceed, 
>>> but this is also a little inconsistent.  I'm not sure if the 
>>> inconsistencies are due to Apple or due to the inconsistent nature of 
>>> web-page coding.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 00:15, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> 
>>> you're right. it's complicated. Safari is the only browser I use but I was 
>>> expecting it to be as easy to use as the saved credentials are on a Mac. 
>>> not that I don't have all my passwords written down but since they're 
>>> already saved in Safari on my Mac I was hoping to use a few of them on my 
>>> phone. oh well... I'll play around with it and see what happens.
>>> 
>>> Lorie
>>> 
 On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor >>> > wrote:
 
 Hello Lorie,
 
 You ask a simple question but, I’m afraid, the answer is not so simple.
 
 Let me start by saying that I think the Apple Key Chain, as a password 
 manager, is an excellent alternative to some third-party password managers.
 
 It's safe, easy to use, consistent across all of your Apple devices, and 
 free, as it were.
 
 In short, there are two general methods for using Apple Key Chain, as a 
 password manager.  The first method, which is what I suspect you wish to 
 learn how to use, is to have the Key Chain automatically enter your login 
 credentials when prompted by an app or a website.
 
 The second method is to open the Key Chain password manager and lookup the 
 login credentials, manually.
 
 I suggest that you read the Apple user manuals and search for relative 
 topics via Google as, in my opinion, there are just too many variables and 
 nuances of Key Chain, as a password manager, to cover in one succinct 
 reply.
 
 However, I will list the following points that you should keep in mind 
 when exploring the Apple Key Chain as a password manager.
 
 Please keep in mind that I am referring to the automatic entry feature of 
 the Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, only

Re: keychain

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Creating a six digit pass-code is accomplished in Settings, Face-ID & 
Pass-Code.  Beyond that, just try to enable it and it will prompt you for any 
further needs.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Dec 27, 2019, at 15:16, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I'd like to be able to use keychain on my phone. this seems to require a 6 
digit code I haven't set up or else approving it from my Mac which now that I'm 
home should be simple enough. how do I perform this task?

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: Keychain

[Herbie Allen]

Go to a password field, and It’s right above it. You hav to touch and explore a 
little.

> On Apr 22, 2024, at 19:25, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> is there a way to call up or invoke keychain when I’m on my phone trying to 
> login to a website? usually I don’t know the password and can’t look it up. 
> sometimes keychain is on the screen and sometimes it isn’t. how do I get it 
> to come up?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Keychain issues

[Robert Carter]

Hi,

By default, the keychain password is the same password that you use to unlock 
your Mac.

Robert Carter



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 6:46 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> Can someone explain to me how to retrieve a password stored in Keychain? I 
> don’t recall ever setting a master Keychain password, which it asks for on my 
> Mac when trying to retrieve one. This is a web site log in that I had 
> automatically chosen by Safari rather than trying to remember one. Now I need 
> said password for another device, my iPhone on a 3rd party app where it can’t 
> just be filled in apparently. 
> 
> Help!
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Re: Keychain issues

[John Panarese]

   Also, Safari login info can usually be found in Safari preferences. If you 
open Safari, choose preferences and then passwords. You should see a list of 
all of your logins and the passwords. You might have to authenticate with your 
account password to see the actual passwords. 

   In other words, you don't need to use Keychain Access to see Safari 
passwords, but as Dr. Carter indicated, the keychain password should be the 
same as your account password unless you reset your account password.


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> On Jun 20, 2017, at 8:10 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> By default, the keychain password is the same password that you use to unlock 
> your Mac.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 6:46 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
>> 
>> Can someone explain to me how to retrieve a password stored in Keychain? I 
>> don’t recall ever setting a master Keychain password, which it asks for on 
>> my Mac when trying to retrieve one. This is a web site log in that I had 
>> automatically chosen by Safari rather than trying to remember one. Now I 
>> need said password for another device, my iPhone on a 3rd party app where it 
>> can’t just be filled in apparently. 
>> 
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Re: Keychain issues

[Jenine Stanley]

Thanks Robert, 

I’ll also look under Safari preferences for this password.
> On Jun 20, 2017, at 8:10 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> By default, the keychain password is the same password that you use to unlock 
> your Mac.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 6:46 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
>> 
>> Can someone explain to me how to retrieve a password stored in Keychain? I 
>> don’t recall ever setting a master Keychain password, which it asks for on 
>> my Mac when trying to retrieve one. This is a web site log in that I had 
>> automatically chosen by Safari rather than trying to remember one. Now I 
>> need said password for another device, my iPhone on a 3rd party app where it 
>> can’t just be filled in apparently. 
>> 
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Re: Keychain Question

[Jonathan Cohn]

Key chain is a hard beast to know what will and won’t work. I was having issues 
on one of my computers and had to start from scratch with the keychain. I would 
suggest creating a new keychain on the older system and then copying over the 
passwords you don’t want to lose to the new keychain. When you do this you will 
be prompted for the keychain password in that prompt there is a check box 
saying allow this for the rest of this operation or something like that. If you 
don’t click this check box, then every password that you copy will prompt you 
for the keychain password. 

I did have issues starting sometime in Winter of last year where overtime my 
Mac went to sleep I had to re-enter my  Mail passwords  before I could get any 
new mail. 

> On Feb 12, 2019, at 4:00 PM, N2KPV  wrote:
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> Hi all , I have been using my newer  iMac  as my main computer for awhile now 
> . I recently turned on Keychain  and it works well . I have not turned it on 
> on my late 2011 Macbook Pro which is my backup computer .  My question is if 
> not all of my passwords are up to date on my older MacBook  will this cause 
> any issues ?  Or should I update the old passwords first before I turn on 
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Re: Keychain Question

[N2KPV]

Thanks Jonathan , I will give it  a try .

On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 5:18:49 PM UTC-5, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
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> Key chain is a hard beast to know what will and won’t work. I was having 
> issues on one of my computers and had to start from scratch with the 
> keychain. I would suggest creating a new keychain on the older system and 
> then copying over the passwords you don’t want to lose to the new keychain. 
> When you do this you will be prompted for the keychain password in that 
> prompt there is a check box saying allow this for the rest of this 
> operation or something like that. If you don’t click this check box, then 
> every password that you copy will prompt you for the keychain password. 
>
> I did have issues starting sometime in Winter of last year where overtime 
> my Mac went to sleep I had to re-enter my  Mail passwords  before I could 
> get any new mail. 
>
> On Feb 12, 2019, at 4:00 PM, N2KPV > 
> wrote:
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> now . I recently turned on Keychain  and it works well . I have not turned 
> it on on my late 2011 Macbook Pro which is my backup computer .  My 
> question is if not all of my passwords are up to date on my older MacBook 
>  will this cause any issues ?  Or should I update the old passwords first 
> before I turn on Keychain on the older mac .  Hopefully this makes sense .
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Re: Keychain and passwords.

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Hi,

Yes, they should be.  Although, "should" is my favourite word I use when 
helping people with tech issues.

Later...

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On Sep 27, 2016, at 09:36, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
If i reset my Iphones network settings and then connect it to my Wifi will all 
network passwords be restored if i have Keychain turned on?
Thanks.
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Re: Keychain and passwords.

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Hi!
So this means i should do an encrypted backup on my iphone first?
Thanks.
/A
> 27 sep. 2016 kl. 19:52 skrev Tim Kilburn :
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> Hi,
> 
> Yes, they should be.  Although, "should" is my favourite word I use when 
> helping people with tech issues.
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> Later...
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> Tim Kilburn
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> If i reset my Iphones network settings and then connect it to my Wifi will 
> all network passwords be restored if i have Keychain turned on?
> Thanks.
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Re: Keychain and passwords.

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Hi,

That wouldn't hurt.  Probably is a good idea anytime you're going to do 
something that could have you lose data.

Later...

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On Sep 28, 2016, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
So this means i should do an encrypted backup on my iphone first?
Thanks.
/A
> 27 sep. 2016 kl. 19:52 skrev Tim Kilburn :
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> Hi,
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> Later...
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Re: Keychain on the Mac

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Deb, I think the only option you may have in your situation is to completely 
zap your Keychain and start over.
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> On 17/10/2014, at 1:29 pm, Deb Lewis  wrote:
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> When I set up my keychain I had a different Mac. When I got rid of it, I 
> forgot that the phone number i’d used for verification is no longer valid for 
> receiving a text to verify a new Mac on the keychain. 
> I’ve looked on my phone and can find no way to change the number for the 
> keychain there. And on my new Mac it keeps sending the verification to the 
> old number that isn’t valid. I thought there was a way to have it contact 
> another phone on the keychain and let that be the verification. Is there any 
> way to get that to happen? And if not, do I have to dump my entire iCloud and 
> start over or worse? Yikes!! I can only find instructions for changing the 
> number on another Mac in the keychain. That’s what I no longer have. Just 
> phones on it and wanting to add my Mac.
> This would be under Yosemite on the Mac.
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Re: Keychain on the Mac

[Deb Lewis]

Well fortunately I did actually manage to get this figured out without zapping 
anything.
I hadn’t seen the advanced button under keychain on the phone. Here indeed you 
can change the code and the phone number. 
Then my next misery was that for some reason my phone wasn’t receiving any 
calls or texts after I’d enabled handoff on the mac. Fortunately a reboot of 
the phone got that one solved.
And then the mac started showing that option again to have a device verify the 
keychain which is really what i wanted in the first place. So now the Mac is 
added. 
what a chore, but at least it’s done and the process is straightforward enough 
if the Apple servers weren’t bogged down and the phone hadn’t been conked by 
adding the Mac to it. 

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> Hi Deb, I think the only option you may have in your situation is to 
> completely zap your Keychain and start over.
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>> On 17/10/2014, at 1:29 pm, Deb Lewis > > wrote:
>> 
>> When I set up my keychain I had a different Mac. When I got rid of it, I 
>> forgot that the phone number i’d used for verification is no longer valid 
>> for receiving a text to verify a new Mac on the keychain. 
>> I’ve looked on my phone and can find no way to change the number for the 
>> keychain there. And on my new Mac it keeps sending the verification to the 
>> old number that isn’t valid. I thought there was a way to have it contact 
>> another phone on the keychain and let that be the verification. Is there any 
>> way to get that to happen? And if not, do I have to dump my entire iCloud 
>> and start over or worse? Yikes!! I can only find instructions for changing 
>> the number on another Mac in the keychain. That’s what I no longer have. 
>> Just phones on it and wanting to add my Mac.
>> This would be under Yosemite on the Mac.
>> Thanks for any help at all.
>> 
>> deb
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Re: Keychain Cannot be Found

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   Fixed. It was the wi-fi connection. All is good now. 

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Re: Keychain Cannot be Found

['Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries]

On 13/4/24 17:02, ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries wrote:

During setup I may have inadvertently changed a setting. What do I need to 
change to correct this? Many thanks.
I suppose you just use System Settings, find the setting in question, 
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Re: Keychain Cannot be Found

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   It would be so helpful if you would top post. Would make for better 
readability.


   No it was not system settings. It was the wi-fi connection somehow 
disconnected unknown to me.


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On 4/14/2024 5:43 AM, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries wrote:


On 13/4/24 17:02, ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries wrote:
    During setup I may have inadvertently changed a setting. What do I 
need to change to correct this? Many thanks.
I suppose you just use System Settings, find the setting in question, 
and fix it.




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Re: Keychain on my I Mac.

[Alex Hall]

Keychain only needs that code once, unless you disable the feature later on.
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 09:36, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hi All.
> 
> I have had a night mare with my keychain for my Mac.
> 
> Yesterday after installing El Capitan on the iMac, I screwed up my Keychain 
> and today I had to wipe the disk and start over.  Now however, I approved 
> from my I phone 6 Plus S as I managed to remove the other phone from my 
> trusted devices before I did a fresh install.  The only thing I don’t 
> understand, even though I got a code from my I phone for the key chain, do I 
> have to remember what it is and put it in each time I restart my Mac or do I 
> get a different one?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> I am very behind on this mail list as have been setting up my devices and 
> still have to set it up on my Mac Mini.
> 
> Kawal.
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Re: Keychain on my I Mac.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

When I got the code, I did not put it in. And when I went to the iCloud 
preferences, it said key chain options. So am I to put the coding, if so, where?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Oct 2015, at 2:43 p.m., Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Keychain only needs that code once, unless you disable the feature later on.
>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 09:36, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All.
>> 
>> I have had a night mare with my keychain for my Mac.
>> 
>> Yesterday after installing El Capitan on the iMac, I screwed up my Keychain 
>> and today I had to wipe the disk and start over.  Now however, I approved 
>> from my I phone 6 Plus S as I managed to remove the other phone from my 
>> trusted devices before I did a fresh install.  The only thing I don’t 
>> understand, even though I got a code from my I phone for the key chain, do I 
>> have to remember what it is and put it in each time I restart my Mac or do I 
>> get a different one?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> I am very behind on this mail list as have been setting up my devices and 
>> still have to set it up on my Mac Mini.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: Keychain on my I Mac.

[Alex Hall]

When you enable Keychain in iCloud, you'll be asked for the code. If you don't 
enter one, you should get a reminder later that "this Mac is waiting for a code 
to activate iCloud Keychain". If not, or if you missed it, just go back to 
iCloud Preferences and enable Keychain again, though that may generate a 
request for a new code. Either way, there should be a dialog with a text field 
where the code is entered. Well, it's more of four text fields through which 
the Mac auto-advances as you type each number, but it comes to the same thing.
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 09:51, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> When I got the code, I did not put it in. And when I went to the iCloud 
> preferences, it said key chain options. So am I to put the coding, if so, 
> where?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 4 Oct 2015, at 2:43 p.m., Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> Keychain only needs that code once, unless you disable the feature later on.
>>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 09:36, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All.
>>> 
>>> I have had a night mare with my keychain for my Mac.
>>> 
>>> Yesterday after installing El Capitan on the iMac, I screwed up my Keychain 
>>> and today I had to wipe the disk and start over.  Now however, I approved 
>>> from my I phone 6 Plus S as I managed to remove the other phone from my 
>>> trusted devices before I did a fresh install.  The only thing I don’t 
>>> understand, even though I got a code from my I phone for the key chain, do 
>>> I have to remember what it is and put it in each time I restart my Mac or 
>>> do I get a different one?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> I am very behind on this mail list as have been setting up my devices and 
>>> still have to set it up on my Mac Mini.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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Re: Keychain, what is it and what does it do?

[E.T.]

Stacey,
   This will explain it all for you.



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On 9/21/2017 12:49 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

Hi,
Could someone please explain to me simply what keychain is and what it does?
Thanks,
Peace,  
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net



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RE: Keychain, what is it and what does it do?

[Simon Fogarty]

It's a secure location on your machine that stores your devices or iCloud 
related passwords and certificates and other security related things on your 
computer,

It's a good thing to ensure it's being used.

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Subject: Keychain, what is it and what does it do?

Hi,
Could someone please explain to me simply what keychain is and what it does?
Thanks,
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