Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-05 Thread Anders Holmberg 
Hi!
I have that problem with the Siri Voices.
But not with the acapela ones.
Very odd.
/A

> 4 maj 2020 kl. 19:10 skrev Greg Wocher :
> 
> Hello,
> I notice that control does not work very often to silence speech. It does not 
> matter what voice I am using. Sometimes when I hit control it will even start 
> speaking in a different voice than the one I am using. It is one of the most 
> annoying frustrations I have with VoiceOver.
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Patrick Ford > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I am using Samantha and the control key does not work for silencing. I 
>> thought it was because I had updated to catalina. it used to work just fine 
>> but after catalina control key never worked again.
>> patrick 
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Pete De Vasto >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Petrus,
>>> 
>>> Out of curiosity, what voice are you currently using? I’m using Victoria, 
>>> one of the old-time voices that’s been with VO forever, and the control key 
>>> does exactly what I expect it to do. Have you tried switching to either 
>>> her, or maybe Samantha, just to see what happens?
>>> 
>>> Pete De Vasto
>>> 
 On May 4, 2020, at 7:21 AM, Eric Caron >>> > wrote:
 
 It would be helpful if it worked.  It would be a quick way to stop speech 
 in all kinds of situations.  Mostly when my wife wants to tell me 
 something and the computer is talking so I can’t hear.  But also when on a 
 phone call, or when I want to silence a long unneeded computer ramble. 
 
 I have learned to restart voice over or turn the volume down but the 
 control key is faster and easier. And it has the advantage that a second 
 press starts speech where it left off. 
 
 I notice just now that if I close my lid and then reopen the control key 
 feature no longer works.  I have to restart Voice over.  
 
 Unfortunately due to an active cat it is best if I shut my lid often.
 
I’ll pay attention to see what else triggers the failure.
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 
 
> On May 4, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> It seems to do so on my computer using all english speaking voices but 
> not when i use my swedish voice.
> Not sure why but thats how it is here.
> /A
> 
>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 02:57 skrev Petrus Tuerlings > >:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there 
>> was a solution?
>> If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control 
>> key to shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut 
>> up for about five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many 
>> times I press the control key VoiceOver will start reading again after 
>> five seconds or so. So I just end up slamming the lid down just to keep 
>> it quiet. Suppose I could mute VoiceOver but I thought the control key 
>> was the way to do it.
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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RE: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-04 Thread Simon A Fogarty 
The retail  store wouldn’t understand your Mac computer or the fact you were 
speaking as well as the computer speaking

Retail outlets don’t know the technology they sell.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2020 7:58 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

Sorry Simon,
I’m a bit confused by your reply?


On 4/05/2020, at 21:23, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Or your mac,

They speak words but don’t under stand what the words actually mean.

From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Monday, 4 May 2020 2:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

Hi Eric,
I have the advantage of having access to two machines and have only noticed 
this on my one. I might see if I can get hold of Apple accessibility and see if 
I can give them remote access to my machine  so they can see what is going on.  
.   shame that we haven[’t got Apple stores in New Zealand or I would have gone 
into store to show them what is happening.. And the retail store I got my Mac 
from wouldn’t understand VoiceOver anyway.



On 4/05/2020, at 14:13, Eric Caron 
mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Petrus,

Yes, I brought this up earlier.

For me it works sometimes.  If not working what happens is I 
press it and Voice over just keeps talking.  I have to restart Voice over and 
then the Control key will work correctly. Unfortunately it doesn’t last all 
that long and I’m back to turning voice over off and on again.

It is nice when it works.

Best of luck.

Eric Caron




On May 3, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I just tested it again, I can report that I am  most definitely  pressing it 
once. I’ve always had problems with the control key on this machine, first 
thing in the morning once I’ve opened my lid and start using the computer it 
takes about three or four presses of the control key before it silences 
VoiceOver. Almost like it needs to warm up. But when I test it on my wife’s 
MacBook it behaves as it should every time. It’s just the control key on my 
machine that refuses to play nicely.



On 4/05/2020, at 13:09, alia robinson 
mailto:ali...@gmail.com>> wrote:

it is, works everytime, but you need to just press it once. if you press it 
again it will resume. you must be pressing it twice.

On May 3, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there was a 
solution?
If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control key to 
shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut up for about 
five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many times I press the 
control key VoiceOver will start reading again after five seconds or so. So I 
just end up slamming the lid down just to keep it quiet. Suppose I could mute 
VoiceOver but I thought the control key was the way to do it.


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Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-04 Thread Petrus Tuerlings 
But this brings me back to my original  question. If I press VO +A to do a read 
all I just can not get the control key to work properly. I press it and 
VoiceOver will stop for about two seconds and then start up again. Now I am 
pressing the caps lock key +A to do the read all. I Might try  control option+A 
to do the read all and then see if the control silence key works as it should.

> On 5/05/2020, at 06:37, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> When the ctrl key does not work, this is because the VO buffer is busy and 
> the normal ctrl key action is not registered.  I just press the Caps-Lock key 
> and VO instantly quiets.  The only problem with this method is that VO cannot 
> restart from where it left off after pressing this key, but it is stopped.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 12:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That has been my experience too, and I agree, it's very frustrating.
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Greg Wocher >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I notice that control does not work very often to silence speech. It does 
>>> not matter what voice I am using. Sometimes when I hit control it will even 
>>> start speaking in a different voice than the one I am using. It is one of 
>>> the most annoying frustrations I have with VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> Greg Wocher
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 4, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Patrick Ford >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi, I am using Samantha and the control key does not work for silencing. I 
 thought it was because I had updated to catalina. it used to work just 
 fine but after catalina control key never worked again.
 patrick 
 
> On May 4, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Pete De Vasto  > wrote:
> 
> Petrus,
> 
> Out of curiosity, what voice are you currently using? I’m using Victoria, 
> one of the old-time voices that’s been with VO forever, and the control 
> key does exactly what I expect it to do. Have you tried switching to 
> either her, or maybe Samantha, just to see what happens?
> 
> Pete De Vasto
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 7:21 AM, Eric Caron > > wrote:
>> 
>> It would be helpful if it worked.  It would be a quick way to stop 
>> speech in all kinds of situations.  Mostly when my wife wants to tell me 
>> something and the computer is talking so I can’t hear.  But also when on 
>> a phone call, or when I want to silence a long unneeded computer ramble. 
>> 
>> I have learned to restart voice over or turn the volume down but the 
>> control key is faster and easier. And it has the advantage that a second 
>> press starts speech where it left off. 
>> 
>> I notice just now that if I close my lid and then reopen the control key 
>> feature no longer works.  I have to restart Voice over.  
>> 
>> Unfortunately due to an active cat it is best if I shut my lid often.
>> 
>>  I’ll pay attention to see what else triggers the failure.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> It seems to do so on my computer using all english speaking voices but 
>>> not when i use my swedish voice.
>>> Not sure why but thats how it is here.
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 maj 2020 kl. 02:57 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>> >:
 
 Hi all,
 I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there 
 was a solution?
 If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control 
 key to shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will 
 shut up for about five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter 
 how many times I press the control key VoiceOver will start reading 
 again after five seconds or so. So I just end up slamming the lid down 
 just to keep it quiet. Suppose I could mute VoiceOver but I thought 
 the control key was the way to do it.
 Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
 
 
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Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-04 Thread Petrus Tuerlings 
Hi Pete,
I’m using Australian Karen, I can try and change it to see if it makes any 
difference. But I have Australian Karen on my wife’s Mac as well and I’ve never 
had this issue on her machine. But then I don’t use it as often so that doesn’t 
mean it won’t happen.
I seem to remember this issue right from day one when a friend came around to 
help me set the machine up and she told me to press the control key to silence 
voice over, but at that point I’d never met a Mac before so I could have been 
pressing the wrong key as well.

> On 5/05/2020, at 02:30, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> Petrus,
> 
> Out of curiosity, what voice are you currently using? I’m using Victoria, one 
> of the old-time voices that’s been with VO forever, and the control key does 
> exactly what I expect it to do. Have you tried switching to either her, or 
> maybe Samantha, just to see what happens?
> 
> Pete De Vasto
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 7:21 AM, Eric Caron > > wrote:
>> 
>> It would be helpful if it worked.  It would be a quick way to stop speech in 
>> all kinds of situations.  Mostly when my wife wants to tell me something and 
>> the computer is talking so I can’t hear.  But also when on a phone call, or 
>> when I want to silence a long unneeded computer ramble. 
>> 
>> I have learned to restart voice over or turn the volume down but the control 
>> key is faster and easier. And it has the advantage that a second press 
>> starts speech where it left off. 
>> 
>> I notice just now that if I close my lid and then reopen the control key 
>> feature no longer works.  I have to restart Voice over.  
>> 
>> Unfortunately due to an active cat it is best if I shut my lid often.
>> 
>>  I’ll pay attention to see what else triggers the failure.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> It seems to do so on my computer using all english speaking voices but not 
>>> when i use my swedish voice.
>>> Not sure why but thats how it is here.
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 maj 2020 kl. 02:57 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>> >:
 
 Hi all,
 I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there was 
 a solution?
 If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control key 
 to shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut up for 
 about five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many times I 
 press the control key VoiceOver will start reading again after five 
 seconds or so. So I just end up slamming the lid down just to keep it 
 quiet. Suppose I could mute VoiceOver but I thought the control key was 
 the way to do it.
 Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
 
 
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Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-04 Thread Petrus Tuerlings 
Sorry Simon,
I’m a bit confused by your reply?

> On 4/05/2020, at 21:23, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Or your mac,
>  
> They speak words but don’t under stand what the words actually mean.
>  
> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Monday, 4 May 2020 2:42 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key
>  
> Hi Eric,
> I have the advantage of having access to two machines and have only noticed 
> this on my one. I might see if I can get hold of Apple accessibility and see 
> if I can give them remote access to my machine  so they can see what is going 
> on.  .   shame that we haven[’t got Apple stores in New Zealand or I would 
> have gone into store to show them what is happening.. And the retail store I 
> got my Mac from wouldn’t understand VoiceOver anyway.  
> 
> 
> On 4/05/2020, at 14:13, Eric Caron  <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> Hi Petrus,
>  
> Yes, I brought this up earlier. 
>  
> For me it works sometimes.  If not working what happens is I 
> press it and Voice over just keeps talking.  I have to restart Voice over and 
> then the Control key will work correctly. Unfortunately it doesn’t last all 
> that long and I’m back to turning voice over off and on again. 
>  
> It is nice when it works. 
>  
> Best of luck.
>  
> Eric Caron 
>  
> 
> 
> On May 3, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> I just tested it again, I can report that I am  most definitely  pressing it 
> once. I’ve always had problems with the control key on this machine, first 
> thing in the morning once I’ve opened my lid and start using the computer it 
> takes about three or four presses of the control key before it silences 
> VoiceOver. Almost like it needs to warm up. But when I test it on my wife’s 
> MacBook it behaves as it should every time. It’s just the control key on my 
> machine that refuses to play nicely.
> 
> 
> On 4/05/2020, at 13:09, alia robinson  <mailto:ali...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> it is, works everytime, but you need to just press it once. if you press it 
> again it will resume. you must be pressing it twice.
>  
> On May 3, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there was a 
> solution?
> If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control key to 
> shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut up for about 
> five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many times I press the 
> control key VoiceOver will start reading again after five seconds or so. So I 
> just end up slamming the lid down just to keep it quiet. Suppose I could mute 
> VoiceOver but I thought the control key was the way to do it.
>  
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Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-04 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Hi Tim,

My experience is that Caps lock works most of the time, but not all of the time.
Cheers,
Donna


> On May 4, 2020, at 1:37 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> When the ctrl key does not work, this is because the VO buffer is busy and 
> the normal ctrl key action is not registered.  I just press the Caps-Lock key 
> and VO instantly quiets.  The only problem with this method is that VO cannot 
> restart from where it left off after pressing this key, but it is stopped.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 12:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That has been my experience too, and I agree, it's very frustrating.
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Greg Wocher >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I notice that control does not work very often to silence speech. It does 
>>> not matter what voice I am using. Sometimes when I hit control it will even 
>>> start speaking in a different voice than the one I am using. It is one of 
>>> the most annoying frustrations I have with VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> Greg Wocher
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 4, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Patrick Ford >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi, I am using Samantha and the control key does not work for silencing. I 
 thought it was because I had updated to catalina. it used to work just 
 fine but after catalina control key never worked again.
 patrick 
 
> On May 4, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Pete De Vasto  > wrote:
> 
> Petrus,
> 
> Out of curiosity, what voice are you currently using? I’m using Victoria, 
> one of the old-time voices that’s been with VO forever, and the control 
> key does exactly what I expect it to do. Have you tried switching to 
> either her, or maybe Samantha, just to see what happens?
> 
> Pete De Vasto
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 7:21 AM, Eric Caron > > wrote:
>> 
>> It would be helpful if it worked.  It would be a quick way to stop 
>> speech in all kinds of situations.  Mostly when my wife wants to tell me 
>> something and the computer is talking so I can’t hear.  But also when on 
>> a phone call, or when I want to silence a long unneeded computer ramble. 
>> 
>> I have learned to restart voice over or turn the volume down but the 
>> control key is faster and easier. And it has the advantage that a second 
>> press starts speech where it left off. 
>> 
>> I notice just now that if I close my lid and then reopen the control key 
>> feature no longer works.  I have to restart Voice over.  
>> 
>> Unfortunately due to an active cat it is best if I shut my lid often.
>> 
>>  I’ll pay attention to see what else triggers the failure.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> It seems to do so on my computer using all english speaking voices but 
>>> not when i use my swedish voice.
>>> Not sure why but thats how it is here.
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 maj 2020 kl. 02:57 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>> >:
 
 Hi all,
 I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there 
 was a solution?
 If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control 
 key to shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will 
 shut up for about five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter 
 how many times I press the control key VoiceOver will start reading 
 again after five seconds or so. So I just end up slamming the lid down 
 just to keep it quiet. Suppose I could mute VoiceOver but I thought 
 the control key was the way to do it.
 Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
 
 
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Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-04 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Hi,

When the ctrl key does not work, this is because the VO buffer is busy and the 
normal ctrl key action is not registered.  I just press the Caps-Lock key and 
VO instantly quiets.  The only problem with this method is that VO cannot 
restart from where it left off after pressing this key, but it is stopped.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 4, 2020, at 12:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> That has been my experience too, and I agree, it's very frustrating.
> Donna
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Greg Wocher > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I notice that control does not work very often to silence speech. It does 
>> not matter what voice I am using. Sometimes when I hit control it will even 
>> start speaking in a different voice than the one I am using. It is one of 
>> the most annoying frustrations I have with VoiceOver.
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Patrick Ford >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I am using Samantha and the control key does not work for silencing. I 
>>> thought it was because I had updated to catalina. it used to work just fine 
>>> but after catalina control key never worked again.
>>> patrick 
>>> 
 On May 4, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Pete De Vasto >>> > wrote:
 
 Petrus,
 
 Out of curiosity, what voice are you currently using? I’m using Victoria, 
 one of the old-time voices that’s been with VO forever, and the control 
 key does exactly what I expect it to do. Have you tried switching to 
 either her, or maybe Samantha, just to see what happens?
 
 Pete De Vasto
 
> On May 4, 2020, at 7:21 AM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
> It would be helpful if it worked.  It would be a quick way to stop speech 
> in all kinds of situations.  Mostly when my wife wants to tell me 
> something and the computer is talking so I can’t hear.  But also when on 
> a phone call, or when I want to silence a long unneeded computer ramble. 
> 
> I have learned to restart voice over or turn the volume down but the 
> control key is faster and easier. And it has the advantage that a second 
> press starts speech where it left off. 
> 
> I notice just now that if I close my lid and then reopen the control key 
> feature no longer works.  I have to restart Voice over.  
> 
> Unfortunately due to an active cat it is best if I shut my lid often.
> 
>   I’ll pay attention to see what else triggers the failure.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> It seems to do so on my computer using all english speaking voices but 
>> not when i use my swedish voice.
>> Not sure why but thats how it is here.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 02:57 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there 
>>> was a solution?
>>> If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control 
>>> key to shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut 
>>> up for about five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many 
>>> times I press the control key VoiceOver will start reading again after 
>>> five seconds or so. So I just end up slamming the lid down just to keep 
>>> it quiet. Suppose I could mute VoiceOver but I thought the control key 
>>> was the way to do it.
>>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
>>> 
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Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-04 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
That has been my experience too, and I agree, it's very frustrating.
Donna

> On May 4, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I notice that control does not work very often to silence speech. It does not 
> matter what voice I am using. Sometimes when I hit control it will even start 
> speaking in a different voice than the one I am using. It is one of the most 
> annoying frustrations I have with VoiceOver.
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Patrick Ford > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I am using Samantha and the control key does not work for silencing. I 
>> thought it was because I had updated to catalina. it used to work just fine 
>> but after catalina control key never worked again.
>> patrick 
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Pete De Vasto >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Petrus,
>>> 
>>> Out of curiosity, what voice are you currently using? I’m using Victoria, 
>>> one of the old-time voices that’s been with VO forever, and the control key 
>>> does exactly what I expect it to do. Have you tried switching to either 
>>> her, or maybe Samantha, just to see what happens?
>>> 
>>> Pete De Vasto
>>> 
 On May 4, 2020, at 7:21 AM, Eric Caron >>> > wrote:
 
 It would be helpful if it worked.  It would be a quick way to stop speech 
 in all kinds of situations.  Mostly when my wife wants to tell me 
 something and the computer is talking so I can’t hear.  But also when on a 
 phone call, or when I want to silence a long unneeded computer ramble. 
 
 I have learned to restart voice over or turn the volume down but the 
 control key is faster and easier. And it has the advantage that a second 
 press starts speech where it left off. 
 
 I notice just now that if I close my lid and then reopen the control key 
 feature no longer works.  I have to restart Voice over.  
 
 Unfortunately due to an active cat it is best if I shut my lid often.
 
I’ll pay attention to see what else triggers the failure.
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 
 
> On May 4, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> It seems to do so on my computer using all english speaking voices but 
> not when i use my swedish voice.
> Not sure why but thats how it is here.
> /A
> 
>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 02:57 skrev Petrus Tuerlings > >:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there 
>> was a solution?
>> If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control 
>> key to shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut 
>> up for about five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many 
>> times I press the control key VoiceOver will start reading again after 
>> five seconds or so. So I just end up slamming the lid down just to keep 
>> it quiet. Suppose I could mute VoiceOver but I thought the control key 
>> was the way to do it.
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
>> 
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Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-04 Thread Greg Wocher 
Hello,
I notice that control does not work very often to silence speech. It does not 
matter what voice I am using. Sometimes when I hit control it will even start 
speaking in a different voice than the one I am using. It is one of the most 
annoying frustrations I have with VoiceOver.

Greg Wocher


> On May 4, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Patrick Ford  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I am using Samantha and the control key does not work for silencing. I 
> thought it was because I had updated to catalina. it used to work just fine 
> but after catalina control key never worked again.
> patrick 
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Pete De Vasto > > wrote:
>> 
>> Petrus,
>> 
>> Out of curiosity, what voice are you currently using? I’m using Victoria, 
>> one of the old-time voices that’s been with VO forever, and the control key 
>> does exactly what I expect it to do. Have you tried switching to either her, 
>> or maybe Samantha, just to see what happens?
>> 
>> Pete De Vasto
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 7:21 AM, Eric Caron >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> It would be helpful if it worked.  It would be a quick way to stop speech 
>>> in all kinds of situations.  Mostly when my wife wants to tell me something 
>>> and the computer is talking so I can’t hear.  But also when on a phone 
>>> call, or when I want to silence a long unneeded computer ramble. 
>>> 
>>> I have learned to restart voice over or turn the volume down but the 
>>> control key is faster and easier. And it has the advantage that a second 
>>> press starts speech where it left off. 
>>> 
>>> I notice just now that if I close my lid and then reopen the control key 
>>> feature no longer works.  I have to restart Voice over.  
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately due to an active cat it is best if I shut my lid often.
>>> 
>>> I’ll pay attention to see what else triggers the failure.
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 4, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi!
 It seems to do so on my computer using all english speaking voices but not 
 when i use my swedish voice.
 Not sure why but thats how it is here.
 /A
 
> 4 maj 2020 kl. 02:57 skrev Petrus Tuerlings  >:
> 
> Hi all,
> I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there 
> was a solution?
> If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control 
> key to shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut 
> up for about five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many 
> times I press the control key VoiceOver will start reading again after 
> five seconds or so. So I just end up slamming the lid down just to keep 
> it quiet. Suppose I could mute VoiceOver but I thought the control key 
> was the way to do it.
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
> 
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Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-04 Thread Patrick Ford 
Hi, I am using Samantha and the control key does not work for silencing. I 
thought it was because I had updated to catalina. it used to work just fine but 
after catalina control key never worked again.
patrick 

> On May 4, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> Petrus,
> 
> Out of curiosity, what voice are you currently using? I’m using Victoria, one 
> of the old-time voices that’s been with VO forever, and the control key does 
> exactly what I expect it to do. Have you tried switching to either her, or 
> maybe Samantha, just to see what happens?
> 
> Pete De Vasto
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 7:21 AM, Eric Caron > > wrote:
>> 
>> It would be helpful if it worked.  It would be a quick way to stop speech in 
>> all kinds of situations.  Mostly when my wife wants to tell me something and 
>> the computer is talking so I can’t hear.  But also when on a phone call, or 
>> when I want to silence a long unneeded computer ramble. 
>> 
>> I have learned to restart voice over or turn the volume down but the control 
>> key is faster and easier. And it has the advantage that a second press 
>> starts speech where it left off. 
>> 
>> I notice just now that if I close my lid and then reopen the control key 
>> feature no longer works.  I have to restart Voice over.  
>> 
>> Unfortunately due to an active cat it is best if I shut my lid often.
>> 
>>  I’ll pay attention to see what else triggers the failure.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> It seems to do so on my computer using all english speaking voices but not 
>>> when i use my swedish voice.
>>> Not sure why but thats how it is here.
>>> /A
>>> 
 4 maj 2020 kl. 02:57 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>> >:
 
 Hi all,
 I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there was 
 a solution?
 If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control key 
 to shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut up for 
 about five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many times I 
 press the control key VoiceOver will start reading again after five 
 seconds or so. So I just end up slamming the lid down just to keep it 
 quiet. Suppose I could mute VoiceOver but I thought the control key was 
 the way to do it.
 Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
 
 
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Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-04 Thread Pete De Vasto 
Petrus,

Out of curiosity, what voice are you currently using? I’m using Victoria, one 
of the old-time voices that’s been with VO forever, and the control key does 
exactly what I expect it to do. Have you tried switching to either her, or 
maybe Samantha, just to see what happens?

Pete De Vasto

> On May 4, 2020, at 7:21 AM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> It would be helpful if it worked.  It would be a quick way to stop speech in 
> all kinds of situations.  Mostly when my wife wants to tell me something and 
> the computer is talking so I can’t hear.  But also when on a phone call, or 
> when I want to silence a long unneeded computer ramble. 
> 
> I have learned to restart voice over or turn the volume down but the control 
> key is faster and easier. And it has the advantage that a second press starts 
> speech where it left off. 
> 
> I notice just now that if I close my lid and then reopen the control key 
> feature no longer works.  I have to restart Voice over.  
> 
> Unfortunately due to an active cat it is best if I shut my lid often.
> 
>   I’ll pay attention to see what else triggers the failure.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> It seems to do so on my computer using all english speaking voices but not 
>> when i use my swedish voice.
>> Not sure why but thats how it is here.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 02:57 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there was 
>>> a solution?
>>> If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control key 
>>> to shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut up for 
>>> about five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many times I 
>>> press the control key VoiceOver will start reading again after five seconds 
>>> or so. So I just end up slamming the lid down just to keep it quiet. 
>>> Suppose I could mute VoiceOver but I thought the control key was the way to 
>>> do it.
>>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
>>> 
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Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-04 Thread Eric Caron 
It would be helpful if it worked.  It would be a quick way to stop speech in 
all kinds of situations.  Mostly when my wife wants to tell me something and 
the computer is talking so I can’t hear.  But also when on a phone call, or 
when I want to silence a long unneeded computer ramble. 

I have learned to restart voice over or turn the volume down but the control 
key is faster and easier. And it has the advantage that a second press starts 
speech where it left off. 

I notice just now that if I close my lid and then reopen the control key 
feature no longer works.  I have to restart Voice over.  

Unfortunately due to an active cat it is best if I shut my lid often.

I’ll pay attention to see what else triggers the failure.

Eric Caron 



> On May 4, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> It seems to do so on my computer using all english speaking voices but not 
> when i use my swedish voice.
> Not sure why but thats how it is here.
> /A
> 
>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 02:57 skrev Petrus Tuerlings > >:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there was a 
>> solution?
>> If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control key 
>> to shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut up for 
>> about five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many times I 
>> press the control key VoiceOver will start reading again after five seconds 
>> or so. So I just end up slamming the lid down just to keep it quiet. Suppose 
>> I could mute VoiceOver but I thought the control key was the way to do it.
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-04 Thread Anders Holmberg 
Hi!
It seems to do so on my computer using all english speaking voices but not when 
i use my swedish voice.
Not sure why but thats how it is here.
/A

> 4 maj 2020 kl. 02:57 skrev Petrus Tuerlings :
> 
> Hi all,
> I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there was a 
> solution?
> If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control key to 
> shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut up for about 
> five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many times I press the 
> control key VoiceOver will start reading again after five seconds or so. So I 
> just end up slamming the lid down just to keep it quiet. Suppose I could mute 
> VoiceOver but I thought the control key was the way to do it.
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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RE: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-04 Thread Simon A Fogarty 
Or your mac,

They speak words but don’t under stand what the words actually mean.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Monday, 4 May 2020 2:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

Hi Eric,
I have the advantage of having access to two machines and have only noticed 
this on my one. I might see if I can get hold of Apple accessibility and see if 
I can give them remote access to my machine  so they can see what is going on.  
.   shame that we haven[’t got Apple stores in New Zealand or I would have gone 
into store to show them what is happening.. And the retail store I got my Mac 
from wouldn’t understand VoiceOver anyway.


On 4/05/2020, at 14:13, Eric Caron 
mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Petrus,

Yes, I brought this up earlier.

For me it works sometimes.  If not working what happens is I 
press it and Voice over just keeps talking.  I have to restart Voice over and 
then the Control key will work correctly. Unfortunately it doesn’t last all 
that long and I’m back to turning voice over off and on again.

It is nice when it works.

Best of luck.

Eric Caron



On May 3, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I just tested it again, I can report that I am  most definitely  pressing it 
once. I’ve always had problems with the control key on this machine, first 
thing in the morning once I’ve opened my lid and start using the computer it 
takes about three or four presses of the control key before it silences 
VoiceOver. Almost like it needs to warm up. But when I test it on my wife’s 
MacBook it behaves as it should every time. It’s just the control key on my 
machine that refuses to play nicely.


On 4/05/2020, at 13:09, alia robinson 
mailto:ali...@gmail.com>> wrote:

it is, works everytime, but you need to just press it once. if you press it 
again it will resume. you must be pressing it twice.

On May 3, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there was a 
solution?
If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control key to 
shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut up for about 
five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many times I press the 
control key VoiceOver will start reading again after five seconds or so. So I 
just end up slamming the lid down just to keep it quiet. Suppose I could mute 
VoiceOver but I thought the control key was the way to do it.


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Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-03 Thread Petrus Tuerlings 
Hi Eric,
I have the advantage of having access to two machines and have only noticed 
this on my one. I might see if I can get hold of Apple accessibility and see if 
I can give them remote access to my machine  so they can see what is going on.  
.   shame that we haven[’t got Apple stores in New Zealand or I would have gone 
into store to show them what is happening.. And the retail store I got my Mac 
from wouldn’t understand VoiceOver anyway.  

> On 4/05/2020, at 14:13, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> Hi Petrus,
> 
>   Yes, I brought this up earlier. 
> 
>   For me it works sometimes.  If not working what happens is I press it 
> and Voice over just keeps talking.  I have to restart Voice over and then the 
> Control key will work correctly. Unfortunately it doesn’t last all that long 
> and I’m back to turning voice over off and on again. 
> 
> It is nice when it works. 
> 
> Best of luck.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> 
>> On May 3, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
>> 
>> I just tested it again, I can report that I am  most definitely  pressing it 
>> once. I’ve always had problems with the control key on this machine, first 
>> thing in the morning once I’ve opened my lid and start using the computer it 
>> takes about three or four presses of the control key before it silences 
>> VoiceOver. Almost like it needs to warm up. But when I test it on my wife’s 
>> MacBook it behaves as it should every time. It’s just the control key on my 
>> machine that refuses to play nicely.
>> 
>>> On 4/05/2020, at 13:09, alia robinson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> it is, works everytime, but you need to just press it once. if you press it 
>>> again it will resume. you must be pressing it twice.
>>> 
>>> On May 3, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Petrus Tuerlings >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there was 
>>> a solution?
>>> If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control key 
>>> to shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut up for 
>>> about five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many times I 
>>> press the control key VoiceOver will start reading again after five seconds 
>>> or so. So I just end up slamming the lid down just to keep it quiet. 
>>> Suppose I could mute VoiceOver but I thought the control key was the way to 
>>> do it.
>>> 
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Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-03 Thread Eric Caron 
Hi Petrus,

Yes, I brought this up earlier. 

For me it works sometimes.  If not working what happens is I press it 
and Voice over just keeps talking.  I have to restart Voice over and then the 
Control key will work correctly. Unfortunately it doesn’t last all that long 
and I’m back to turning voice over off and on again. 

It is nice when it works. 

Best of luck.

Eric Caron 


> On May 3, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
> 
> I just tested it again, I can report that I am  most definitely  pressing it 
> once. I’ve always had problems with the control key on this machine, first 
> thing in the morning once I’ve opened my lid and start using the computer it 
> takes about three or four presses of the control key before it silences 
> VoiceOver. Almost like it needs to warm up. But when I test it on my wife’s 
> MacBook it behaves as it should every time. It’s just the control key on my 
> machine that refuses to play nicely.
> 
>> On 4/05/2020, at 13:09, alia robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>> it is, works everytime, but you need to just press it once. if you press it 
>> again it will resume. you must be pressing it twice.
>> 
>> On May 3, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there was a 
>> solution?
>> If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control key 
>> to shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut up for 
>> about five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many times I 
>> press the control key VoiceOver will start reading again after five seconds 
>> or so. So I just end up slamming the lid down just to keep it quiet. Suppose 
>> I could mute VoiceOver but I thought the control key was the way to do it.
>> 
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Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-03 Thread Petrus Tuerlings 
I just tested it again, I can report that I am  most definitely  pressing it 
once. I’ve always had problems with the control key on this machine, first 
thing in the morning once I’ve opened my lid and start using the computer it 
takes about three or four presses of the control key before it silences 
VoiceOver. Almost like it needs to warm up. But when I test it on my wife’s 
MacBook it behaves as it should every time. It’s just the control key on my 
machine that refuses to play nicely.

> On 4/05/2020, at 13:09, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> it is, works everytime, but you need to just press it once. if you press it 
> again it will resume. you must be pressing it twice.
> 
> On May 3, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there was a 
> solution?
> If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control key to 
> shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut up for about 
> five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many times I press the 
> control key VoiceOver will start reading again after five seconds or so. So I 
> just end up slamming the lid down just to keep it quiet. Suppose I could mute 
> VoiceOver but I thought the control key was the way to do it.
> 
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Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-03 Thread alia robinson 
it is, works everytime, but you need to just press it once. if you press it 
again it will resume. you must be pressing it twice.

On May 3, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Hi all,
I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there was a 
solution?
If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control key to 
shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut up for about 
five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many times I press the 
control key VoiceOver will start reading again after five seconds or so. So I 
just end up slamming the lid down just to keep it quiet. Suppose I could mute 
VoiceOver but I thought the control key was the way to do it.

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