Re: Computer will not boot

2014-10-15 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Glad we were able to help.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:

> Thanks, that worked. I'm writing this from the computer and am quite relieved.
> 
> Thanks again for very valuable info.
> 
> 
> Kristeen Hughes
> khwi...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 15, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Try holding down the FN key at the same time as you press the VO-f2-f2.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>> 
>>> David,
>>> Thank you for this information. I am on that screen right now. When I press 
>>> video F2 all I get is a short dang. Does it make a difference that I am 
>>> using a Bluetooth keyboard? Is there  any way out of this?
>>> 
>>> Kristeen Hughes
>>> 
 On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:50 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
 
 OK this is a well known problem and there is an easy way out.
 
 1. Bring up Window Chooser with VO F2 pressed twice.
 2. Make sure you are on the sign in to App Store window.
 3. Tab to the Apple ID field.
 You will probably get no feedbac but d not worry.
 4. Hit VO command f5 to make sure you are focussed  on this field.
 5. Do a virtual mouse click with shift VO and space bar.
 6. You should now be focussed in a completely accessible window where you 
 can type in your ID and then tab to your password field and then tab to 
 the default button to sign into the App Store.
 It should be plain sailing from there.
 David Griffith
> On 15/10/2014 13:08, Kristeen Hughes wrote:
> Thank you for all of the helpful information. I did go into recovery mode 
> and repair disk permissions. It took about 15 minutes. It did not help 
> the problem. I then went into recovery mode and chose to reinstall the 
> OS. I am now stuck at signing into the App Store. It has been on that 
> screen since about 11:30 last night. is there anything I can do to get 
> past that screen?
> 
> Kristeen Hughes
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Eileen Misrahi  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> Gee!!! Why didn't I think of that solution? Thanks for posting this. I 
>> do know that I needed to use the FN key to access some of the VO speech 
>> output. I'm still learning so much after a year of owning my MacBook 
>> Air. It's amazing that there are so many solutions or just one if you 
>> think out of the box. I know with time that I'll add more items to my 
>> bag of tricks when I need to troubleshoot. For now, I'll leave it up to 
>> the awesome experts on the list. Thanks again for the keystroke.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Eileen
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Concerning the raising of the volume in Recovery mode, you can often 
>>> press VO-cmd-left three times then VO-cmd-up a few times and the volume 
>>> will increase.  This is a normal VO command that can be used most of 
>>> the time.  The VO-cmd-left/right moves you through the Rate, Voice, 
>>> Intonation, Volume and Pitch and the VO-cmd-up/down changes those 
>>> levels on the fly.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Oct 14, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Eileen Misrahi  
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I can really feel your frustrations. Fortunately, my MacBook Air was 
 an easy fix at the Apple Store today. One thing I want to add, when 
 booting up into recovery or other dianostic modes on the computer, 
 voiceover can be access with the command-F5. The voice is not Alex, 
 but some other boyish voice, but at least there is accessibility to 
 the information. The volume is low and it can't be increased. Just 
 letting you know about this pointer. HTH. Good luck and you may need 
 to contact Apple Care.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Rachel Feinberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Kristeen,
> 
> I don't know if this is accessible, but in looking up keyboard 
> shortcuts for starting up a Mac if something's not working properly, 
> you can try holding down D at start up. It will start the apple 
> hardware test, which may tell you something about your drives if they 
> are connected.
> Rachel.
>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Kristeen Hughes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Earlier today I noticed that my computer could not see my two 
>> external drives which were connected via USB. I decided a reboot was 
>> in order, since most of the time this fixes that type of an issue. 
>> 

Re: Computer will not boot

2014-10-15 Thread Kristeen Hughes
Thanks, that worked. I'm writing this from the computer and am quite relieved.

Thanks again for very valuable info.


Kristeen Hughes
khwi...@gmail.com



On Oct 15, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Try holding down the FN key at the same time as you press the VO-f2-f2.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Oct 15, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
>> David,
>> Thank you for this information. I am on that screen right now. When I press 
>> video F2 all I get is a short dang. Does it make a difference that I am 
>> using a Bluetooth keyboard? Is there  any way out of this?
>> 
>> Kristeen Hughes
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:50 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK this is a well known problem and there is an easy way out.
>>> 
>>> 1. Bring up Window Chooser with VO F2 pressed twice.
>>> 2. Make sure you are on the sign in to App Store window.
>>> 3. Tab to the Apple ID field.
>>> You will probably get no feedbac but d not worry.
>>> 4. Hit VO command f5 to make sure you are focussed  on this field.
>>> 5. Do a virtual mouse click with shift VO and space bar.
>>> 6. You should now be focussed in a completely accessible window where you 
>>> can type in your ID and then tab to your password field and then tab to the 
>>> default button to sign into the App Store.
>>> It should be plain sailing from there.
>>> David Griffith
 On 15/10/2014 13:08, Kristeen Hughes wrote:
 Thank you for all of the helpful information. I did go into recovery mode 
 and repair disk permissions. It took about 15 minutes. It did not help the 
 problem. I then went into recovery mode and chose to reinstall the OS. I 
 am now stuck at signing into the App Store. It has been on that screen 
 since about 11:30 last night. is there anything I can do to get past that 
 screen?
 
 Kristeen Hughes
 
> On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Eileen Misrahi  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> Gee!!! Why didn't I think of that solution? Thanks for posting this. I do 
> know that I needed to use the FN key to access some of the VO speech 
> output. I'm still learning so much after a year of owning my MacBook Air. 
> It's amazing that there are so many solutions or just one if you think 
> out of the box. I know with time that I'll add more items to my bag of 
> tricks when I need to troubleshoot. For now, I'll leave it up to the 
> awesome experts on the list. Thanks again for the keystroke.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Concerning the raising of the volume in Recovery mode, you can often 
>> press VO-cmd-left three times then VO-cmd-up a few times and the volume 
>> will increase.  This is a normal VO command that can be used most of the 
>> time.  The VO-cmd-left/right moves you through the Rate, Voice, 
>> Intonation, Volume and Pitch and the VO-cmd-up/down changes those levels 
>> on the fly.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Eileen Misrahi  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I can really feel your frustrations. Fortunately, my MacBook Air was an 
>>> easy fix at the Apple Store today. One thing I want to add, when 
>>> booting up into recovery or other dianostic modes on the computer, 
>>> voiceover can be access with the command-F5. The voice is not Alex, but 
>>> some other boyish voice, but at least there is accessibility to the 
>>> information. The volume is low and it can't be increased. Just letting 
>>> you know about this pointer. HTH. Good luck and you may need to contact 
>>> Apple Care.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Eileen
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Rachel Feinberg  
 wrote:
 
 Hi Kristeen,
 
 I don't know if this is accessible, but in looking up keyboard 
 shortcuts for starting up a Mac if something's not working properly, 
 you can try holding down D at start up. It will start the apple 
 hardware test, which may tell you something about your drives if they 
 are connected.
 Rachel.
> On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Kristeen Hughes  
> wrote:
> 
> Earlier today I noticed that my computer could not see my two 
> external drives which were connected via USB. I decided a reboot was 
> in order, since most of the time this fixes that type of an issue. 
> There was no voice over when the computer restarted. I was unable to 
> tell whether the computer booted all the way or not because of having 
> no speech. I tried rebooting several more times, but the result was 
> still the same.I disconnected all

Re: Computer will not boot

2014-10-15 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Try holding down the FN key at the same time as you press the VO-f2-f2.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 15, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:

> David,
> Thank you for this information. I am on that screen right now. When I press 
> video F2 all I get is a short dang. Does it make a difference that I am using 
> a Bluetooth keyboard? Is there  any way out of this?
> 
> Kristeen Hughes
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:50 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
>> 
>> OK this is a well known problem and there is an easy way out.
>> 
>> 1. Bring up Window Chooser with VO F2 pressed twice.
>> 2. Make sure you are on the sign in to App Store window.
>> 3. Tab to the Apple ID field.
>> You will probably get no feedbac but d not worry.
>> 4. Hit VO command f5 to make sure you are focussed  on this field.
>> 5. Do a virtual mouse click with shift VO and space bar.
>> 6. You should now be focussed in a completely accessible window where you 
>> can type in your ID and then tab to your password field and then tab to the 
>> default button to sign into the App Store.
>> It should be plain sailing from there.
>> David Griffith
>>> On 15/10/2014 13:08, Kristeen Hughes wrote:
>>> Thank you for all of the helpful information. I did go into recovery mode 
>>> and repair disk permissions. It took about 15 minutes. It did not help the 
>>> problem. I then went into recovery mode and chose to reinstall the OS. I am 
>>> now stuck at signing into the App Store. It has been on that screen since 
>>> about 11:30 last night. is there anything I can do to get past that screen?
>>> 
>>> Kristeen Hughes
>>> 
 On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Eileen Misrahi  
 wrote:
 
 Hi Tim,
 
 Gee!!! Why didn't I think of that solution? Thanks for posting this. I do 
 know that I needed to use the FN key to access some of the VO speech 
 output. I'm still learning so much after a year of owning my MacBook Air. 
 It's amazing that there are so many solutions or just one if you think out 
 of the box. I know with time that I'll add more items to my bag of tricks 
 when I need to troubleshoot. For now, I'll leave it up to the awesome 
 experts on the list. Thanks again for the keystroke.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 14, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Concerning the raising of the volume in Recovery mode, you can often 
> press VO-cmd-left three times then VO-cmd-up a few times and the volume 
> will increase.  This is a normal VO command that can be used most of the 
> time.  The VO-cmd-left/right moves you through the Rate, Voice, 
> Intonation, Volume and Pitch and the VO-cmd-up/down changes those levels 
> on the fly.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Eileen Misrahi  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I can really feel your frustrations. Fortunately, my MacBook Air was an 
>> easy fix at the Apple Store today. One thing I want to add, when booting 
>> up into recovery or other dianostic modes on the computer, voiceover can 
>> be access with the command-F5. The voice is not Alex, but some other 
>> boyish voice, but at least there is accessibility to the information. 
>> The volume is low and it can't be increased. Just letting you know about 
>> this pointer. HTH. Good luck and you may need to contact Apple Care.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Eileen
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Rachel Feinberg  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Kristeen,
>>> 
>>> I don't know if this is accessible, but in looking up keyboard 
>>> shortcuts for starting up a Mac if something's not working properly, 
>>> you can try holding down D at start up. It will start the apple 
>>> hardware test, which may tell you something about your drives if they 
>>> are connected.
>>> Rachel.
 On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
 
 Earlier today I noticed that my computer could not see my two external 
 drives which were connected via USB. I decided a reboot was in order, 
 since most of the time this fixes that type of an issue. There was no 
 voice over when the computer restarted. I was unable to tell whether 
 the computer booted all the way or not because of having no speech. I 
 tried rebooting several more times, but the result was still the 
 same.I disconnected all peripherals, and was able to boot into 
 recovery mode. I went into disk utilities and repaired the disk. There 
 seemed to be no problem with the disc. The computer will still not 
 reboot.
 
 Is there anything else I can try in recovery mode? Is there any other 
 way I can reboot the computer that will giv

Re: Computer will not boot

2014-10-15 Thread Kristeen Hughes
David,
Thank you for this information. I am on that screen right now. When I press 
video F2 all I get is a short dang. Does it make a difference that I am using a 
Bluetooth keyboard? Is there  any way out of this?

Kristeen Hughes

> On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:50 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> OK this is a well known problem and there is an easy way out.
> 
> 1. Bring up Window Chooser with VO F2 pressed twice.
> 2. Make sure you are on the sign in to App Store window.
> 3. Tab to the Apple ID field.
> You will probably get no feedbac but d not worry.
> 4. Hit VO command f5 to make sure you are focussed  on this field.
> 5. Do a virtual mouse click with shift VO and space bar.
> 6. You should now be focussed in a completely accessible window where you can 
> type in your ID and then tab to your password field and then tab to the 
> default button to sign into the App Store.
> It should be plain sailing from there.
> David Griffith
>> On 15/10/2014 13:08, Kristeen Hughes wrote:
>> Thank you for all of the helpful information. I did go into recovery mode 
>> and repair disk permissions. It took about 15 minutes. It did not help the 
>> problem. I then went into recovery mode and chose to reinstall the OS. I am 
>> now stuck at signing into the App Store. It has been on that screen since 
>> about 11:30 last night. is there anything I can do to get past that screen?
>> 
>> Kristeen Hughes
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Eileen Misrahi  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> Gee!!! Why didn't I think of that solution? Thanks for posting this. I do 
>>> know that I needed to use the FN key to access some of the VO speech 
>>> output. I'm still learning so much after a year of owning my MacBook Air. 
>>> It's amazing that there are so many solutions or just one if you think out 
>>> of the box. I know with time that I'll add more items to my bag of tricks 
>>> when I need to troubleshoot. For now, I'll leave it up to the awesome 
>>> experts on the list. Thanks again for the keystroke.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Eileen
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 14, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Concerning the raising of the volume in Recovery mode, you can often press 
 VO-cmd-left three times then VO-cmd-up a few times and the volume will 
 increase.  This is a normal VO command that can be used most of the time.  
 The VO-cmd-left/right moves you through the Rate, Voice, Intonation, 
 Volume and Pitch and the VO-cmd-up/down changes those levels on the fly.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On Oct 14, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Eileen Misrahi  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I can really feel your frustrations. Fortunately, my MacBook Air was an 
> easy fix at the Apple Store today. One thing I want to add, when booting 
> up into recovery or other dianostic modes on the computer, voiceover can 
> be access with the command-F5. The voice is not Alex, but some other 
> boyish voice, but at least there is accessibility to the information. The 
> volume is low and it can't be increased. Just letting you know about this 
> pointer. HTH. Good luck and you may need to contact Apple Care.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Kristeen,
>> 
>> I don't know if this is accessible, but in looking up keyboard shortcuts 
>> for starting up a Mac if something's not working properly, you can try 
>> holding down D at start up. It will start the apple hardware test, which 
>> may tell you something about your drives if they are connected.
>> Rachel.
>>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Earlier today I noticed that my computer could not see my two external 
>>> drives which were connected via USB. I decided a reboot was in order, 
>>> since most of the time this fixes that type of an issue. There was no 
>>> voice over when the computer restarted. I was unable to tell whether 
>>> the computer booted all the way or not because of having no speech. I 
>>> tried rebooting several more times, but the result was still the same.I 
>>> disconnected all peripherals, and was able to boot into recovery mode. 
>>> I went into disk utilities and repaired the disk. There seemed to be no 
>>> problem with the disc. The computer will still not reboot.
>>> 
>>> Is there anything else I can try in recovery mode? Is there any other 
>>> way I can reboot the computer that will give me other diagnostic tools? 
>>> Thank you for any help anyone can provide.
>>> 
>>> Kristeen Hughes
>>> 
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Re: Computer will not boot

2014-10-15 Thread David Griffith

OK this is a well known problem and there is an easy way out.

1. Bring up Window Chooser with VO F2 pressed twice.
2. Make sure you are on the sign in to App Store window.
3. Tab to the Apple ID field.
 You will probably get no feedbac but d not worry.
4. Hit VO command f5 to make sure you are focussed  on this field.
5. Do a virtual mouse click with shift VO and space bar.
6. You should now be focussed in a completely accessible window where 
you can type in your ID and then tab to your password field and then tab 
to the default button to sign into the App Store.

It should be plain sailing from there.
David Griffith
On 15/10/2014 13:08, Kristeen Hughes wrote:

Thank you for all of the helpful information. I did go into recovery mode and 
repair disk permissions. It took about 15 minutes. It did not help the problem. 
I then went into recovery mode and chose to reinstall the OS. I am now stuck at 
signing into the App Store. It has been on that screen since about 11:30 last 
night. is there anything I can do to get past that screen?

Kristeen Hughes


On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

Hi Tim,

Gee!!! Why didn't I think of that solution? Thanks for posting this. I do know 
that I needed to use the FN key to access some of the VO speech output. I'm 
still learning so much after a year of owning my MacBook Air. It's amazing that 
there are so many solutions or just one if you think out of the box. I know 
with time that I'll add more items to my bag of tricks when I need to 
troubleshoot. For now, I'll leave it up to the awesome experts on the list. 
Thanks again for the keystroke.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 14, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

Concerning the raising of the volume in Recovery mode, you can often press 
VO-cmd-left three times then VO-cmd-up a few times and the volume will 
increase.  This is a normal VO command that can be used most of the time.  The 
VO-cmd-left/right moves you through the Rate, Voice, Intonation, Volume and 
Pitch and the VO-cmd-up/down changes those levels on the fly.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On Oct 14, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

Hello,

I can really feel your frustrations. Fortunately, my MacBook Air was an easy 
fix at the Apple Store today. One thing I want to add, when booting up into 
recovery or other dianostic modes on the computer, voiceover can be access with 
the command-F5. The voice is not Alex, but some other boyish voice, but at 
least there is accessibility to the information. The volume is low and it can't 
be increased. Just letting you know about this pointer. HTH. Good luck and you 
may need to contact Apple Care.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:

Hi Kristeen,

I don't know if this is accessible, but in looking up keyboard shortcuts for 
starting up a Mac if something's not working properly, you can try holding down 
D at start up. It will start the apple hardware test, which may tell you 
something about your drives if they are connected.
Rachel.

On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:

Earlier today I noticed that my computer could not see my two external drives 
which were connected via USB. I decided a reboot was in order, since most of 
the time this fixes that type of an issue. There was no voice over when the 
computer restarted. I was unable to tell whether the computer booted all the 
way or not because of having no speech. I tried rebooting several more times, 
but the result was still the same.I disconnected all peripherals, and was able 
to boot into recovery mode. I went into disk utilities and repaired the disk. 
There seemed to be no problem with the disc. The computer will still not reboot.

Is there anything else I can try in recovery mode? Is there any other way I can 
reboot the computer that will give me other diagnostic tools? Thank you for any 
help anyone can provide.

Kristeen Hughes

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Re: Computer will not boot

2014-10-15 Thread Kristeen Hughes
Thank you for all of the helpful information. I did go into recovery mode and 
repair disk permissions. It took about 15 minutes. It did not help the problem. 
I then went into recovery mode and chose to reinstall the OS. I am now stuck at 
signing into the App Store. It has been on that screen since about 11:30 last 
night. is there anything I can do to get past that screen?

Kristeen Hughes

> On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> Gee!!! Why didn't I think of that solution? Thanks for posting this. I do 
> know that I needed to use the FN key to access some of the VO speech output. 
> I'm still learning so much after a year of owning my MacBook Air. It's 
> amazing that there are so many solutions or just one if you think out of the 
> box. I know with time that I'll add more items to my bag of tricks when I 
> need to troubleshoot. For now, I'll leave it up to the awesome experts on the 
> list. Thanks again for the keystroke.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Concerning the raising of the volume in Recovery mode, you can often press 
>> VO-cmd-left three times then VO-cmd-up a few times and the volume will 
>> increase.  This is a normal VO command that can be used most of the time.  
>> The VO-cmd-left/right moves you through the Rate, Voice, Intonation, Volume 
>> and Pitch and the VO-cmd-up/down changes those levels on the fly.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Eileen Misrahi  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I can really feel your frustrations. Fortunately, my MacBook Air was an 
>>> easy fix at the Apple Store today. One thing I want to add, when booting up 
>>> into recovery or other dianostic modes on the computer, voiceover can be 
>>> access with the command-F5. The voice is not Alex, but some other boyish 
>>> voice, but at least there is accessibility to the information. The volume 
>>> is low and it can't be increased. Just letting you know about this pointer. 
>>> HTH. Good luck and you may need to contact Apple Care.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Eileen
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
 
 Hi Kristeen,
 
 I don't know if this is accessible, but in looking up keyboard shortcuts 
 for starting up a Mac if something's not working properly, you can try 
 holding down D at start up. It will start the apple hardware test, which 
 may tell you something about your drives if they are connected.
 Rachel. 
> On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> Earlier today I noticed that my computer could not see my two external 
> drives which were connected via USB. I decided a reboot was in order, 
> since most of the time this fixes that type of an issue. There was no 
> voice over when the computer restarted. I was unable to tell whether the 
> computer booted all the way or not because of having no speech. I tried 
> rebooting several more times, but the result was still the same.I 
> disconnected all peripherals, and was able to boot into recovery mode. I 
> went into disk utilities and repaired the disk. There seemed to be no 
> problem with the disc. The computer will still not reboot.
> 
> Is there anything else I can try in recovery mode? Is there any other way 
> I can reboot the computer that will give me other diagnostic tools? Thank 
> you for any help anyone can provide.
> 
> Kristeen Hughes
> 
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Re: Computer will not boot

2014-10-14 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hi Tim,

Gee!!! Why didn't I think of that solution? Thanks for posting this. I do know 
that I needed to use the FN key to access some of the VO speech output. I'm 
still learning so much after a year of owning my MacBook Air. It's amazing that 
there are so many solutions or just one if you think out of the box. I know 
with time that I'll add more items to my bag of tricks when I need to 
troubleshoot. For now, I'll leave it up to the awesome experts on the list. 
Thanks again for the keystroke.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Concerning the raising of the volume in Recovery mode, you can often press 
> VO-cmd-left three times then VO-cmd-up a few times and the volume will 
> increase.  This is a normal VO command that can be used most of the time.  
> The VO-cmd-left/right moves you through the Rate, Voice, Intonation, Volume 
> and Pitch and the VO-cmd-up/down changes those levels on the fly.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I can really feel your frustrations. Fortunately, my MacBook Air was an easy 
>> fix at the Apple Store today. One thing I want to add, when booting up into 
>> recovery or other dianostic modes on the computer, voiceover can be access 
>> with the command-F5. The voice is not Alex, but some other boyish voice, but 
>> at least there is accessibility to the information. The volume is low and it 
>> can't be increased. Just letting you know about this pointer. HTH. Good luck 
>> and you may need to contact Apple Care.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Eileen
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Kristeen,
>>> 
>>> I don't know if this is accessible, but in looking up keyboard shortcuts 
>>> for starting up a Mac if something's not working properly, you can try 
>>> holding down D at start up. It will start the apple hardware test, which 
>>> may tell you something about your drives if they are connected.
>>> Rachel. 
 On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
 
 Earlier today I noticed that my computer could not see my two external 
 drives which were connected via USB. I decided a reboot was in order, 
 since most of the time this fixes that type of an issue. There was no 
 voice over when the computer restarted. I was unable to tell whether the 
 computer booted all the way or not because of having no speech. I tried 
 rebooting several more times, but the result was still the same.I 
 disconnected all peripherals, and was able to boot into recovery mode. I 
 went into disk utilities and repaired the disk. There seemed to be no 
 problem with the disc. The computer will still not reboot.
 
 Is there anything else I can try in recovery mode? Is there any other way 
 I can reboot the computer that will give me other diagnostic tools? Thank 
 you for any help anyone can provide.
 
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Re: Computer will not boot

2014-10-14 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Concerning the raising of the volume in Recovery mode, you can often press 
VO-cmd-left three times then VO-cmd-up a few times and the volume will 
increase.  This is a normal VO command that can be used most of the time.  The 
VO-cmd-left/right moves you through the Rate, Voice, Intonation, Volume and 
Pitch and the VO-cmd-up/down changes those levels on the fly.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 14, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I can really feel your frustrations. Fortunately, my MacBook Air was an easy 
> fix at the Apple Store today. One thing I want to add, when booting up into 
> recovery or other dianostic modes on the computer, voiceover can be access 
> with the command-F5. The voice is not Alex, but some other boyish voice, but 
> at least there is accessibility to the information. The volume is low and it 
> can't be increased. Just letting you know about this pointer. HTH. Good luck 
> and you may need to contact Apple Care.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Kristeen,
>> 
>> I don't know if this is accessible, but in looking up keyboard shortcuts for 
>> starting up a Mac if something's not working properly, you can try holding 
>> down D at start up. It will start the apple hardware test, which may tell 
>> you something about your drives if they are connected.
>> Rachel. 
>>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Earlier today I noticed that my computer could not see my two external 
>>> drives which were connected via USB. I decided a reboot was in order, since 
>>> most of the time this fixes that type of an issue. There was no voice over 
>>> when the computer restarted. I was unable to tell whether the computer 
>>> booted all the way or not because of having no speech. I tried rebooting 
>>> several more times, but the result was still the same.I disconnected all 
>>> peripherals, and was able to boot into recovery mode. I went into disk 
>>> utilities and repaired the disk. There seemed to be no problem with the 
>>> disc. The computer will still not reboot.
>>> 
>>> Is there anything else I can try in recovery mode? Is there any other way I 
>>> can reboot the computer that will give me other diagnostic tools? Thank you 
>>> for any help anyone can provide.
>>> 
>>> Kristeen Hughes
>>> 
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Re: Computer will not boot

2014-10-14 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Two things to start with.  If you still can't start up, go on to the next 
bullets:
* Diagnostic mode is not accessible to VoiceOver.
* Did you attempt regular startup without the peripherals?

Things you can try in Recovery mode:

* Leave the USB drives disconnected until you get it working.
* Select the Disk Utility option and verify that your Disk is visible.
* If it is, try the Repair Disk Permissions.
* Quit Disk Utility and go under the Apple menu to Startup Disk.  Choose your 
Macintosh HD.
* If it still doesn't start up, go back into Recovery mode and choose 
"Re-Install OS X".

Normally, you should not lose anything during the re-installation process 
unless there is major problems with the disk.  Hopefully, you have a backup on 
one of the external drives so that everything is covered in case of the worst.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 14, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:

> Hi Kristeen,
> 
> I don't know if this is accessible, but in looking up keyboard shortcuts for 
> starting up a Mac if something's not working properly, you can try holding 
> down D at start up. It will start the apple hardware test, which may tell you 
> something about your drives if they are connected.
> Rachel. 
> On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
>> Earlier today I noticed that my computer could not see my two external 
>> drives which were connected via USB. I decided a reboot was in order, since 
>> most of the time this fixes that type of an issue. There was no voice over 
>> when the computer restarted. I was unable to tell whether the computer 
>> booted all the way or not because of having no speech. I tried rebooting 
>> several more times, but the result was still the same.I disconnected all 
>> peripherals, and was able to boot into recovery mode. I went into disk 
>> utilities and repaired the disk. There seemed to be no problem with the 
>> disc. The computer will still not reboot.
>> 
>> Is there anything else I can try in recovery mode? Is there any other way I 
>> can reboot the computer that will give me other diagnostic tools? Thank you 
>> for any help anyone can provide.
>> 
>> Kristeen Hughes
>> 
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Re: Computer will not boot

2014-10-14 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hello,

I can really feel your frustrations. Fortunately, my MacBook Air was an easy 
fix at the Apple Store today. One thing I want to add, when booting up into 
recovery or other dianostic modes on the computer, voiceover can be access with 
the command-F5. The voice is not Alex, but some other boyish voice, but at 
least there is accessibility to the information. The volume is low and it can't 
be increased. Just letting you know about this pointer. HTH. Good luck and you 
may need to contact Apple Care.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kristeen,
> 
> I don't know if this is accessible, but in looking up keyboard shortcuts for 
> starting up a Mac if something's not working properly, you can try holding 
> down D at start up. It will start the apple hardware test, which may tell you 
> something about your drives if they are connected.
> Rachel. 
>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>> 
>> Earlier today I noticed that my computer could not see my two external 
>> drives which were connected via USB. I decided a reboot was in order, since 
>> most of the time this fixes that type of an issue. There was no voice over 
>> when the computer restarted. I was unable to tell whether the computer 
>> booted all the way or not because of having no speech. I tried rebooting 
>> several more times, but the result was still the same.I disconnected all 
>> peripherals, and was able to boot into recovery mode. I went into disk 
>> utilities and repaired the disk. There seemed to be no problem with the 
>> disc. The computer will still not reboot.
>> 
>> Is there anything else I can try in recovery mode? Is there any other way I 
>> can reboot the computer that will give me other diagnostic tools? Thank you 
>> for any help anyone can provide.
>> 
>> Kristeen Hughes
>> 
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Re: Computer will not boot

2014-10-14 Thread Rachel Feinberg
Hi Kristeen,

I don't know if this is accessible, but in looking up keyboard shortcuts for 
starting up a Mac if something's not working properly, you can try holding down 
D at start up. It will start the apple hardware test, which may tell you 
something about your drives if they are connected.
Rachel. 
On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:

> Earlier today I noticed that my computer could not see my two external drives 
> which were connected via USB. I decided a reboot was in order, since most of 
> the time this fixes that type of an issue. There was no voice over when the 
> computer restarted. I was unable to tell whether the computer booted all the 
> way or not because of having no speech. I tried rebooting several more times, 
> but the result was still the same.I disconnected all peripherals, and was 
> able to boot into recovery mode. I went into disk utilities and repaired the 
> disk. There seemed to be no problem with the disc. The computer will still 
> not reboot.
> 
> Is there anything else I can try in recovery mode? Is there any other way I 
> can reboot the computer that will give me other diagnostic tools? Thank you 
> for any help anyone can provide.
> 
> Kristeen Hughes
> 
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