Re: Hello from Mark: Just Some General iOS App Comments

[Jessica Barr]

Hello Mark,I'm excited to say that I preordered the iPhone 16 Pro and will pick it up from my local Apple Store on Friday. I'm also looking forward to the updates to iOS, MacOS, and WatchOS—although I can't seem to remember much about what's in store for WatchOS.It's wonderful that all of those apps worked well for you. Lyft is my rideshare app of choice, although I have Uber on my phone too. I tried to use the Southwest Airlines app a few years ago and didn't get very far, so I'm glad it and the Jet Blue app are accessible now. I've never used the Yelp app or TripIt, but I think I'll check them out.JessicaSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 15, 2024, at 3:33 PM, MacVisionaries  wrote:Hello All,It’s been a while since last I posted so thought I would do so now.1.I am looking forward to buying the iPhone 16 Pro Max.2.I can’t wait to try out the new hearing-aid feature of the new Air Pods Pro, What a marvelous innovation by Apple.3.I just recently returned from a short trek to St. Louis and I am delighted to report that all of my core navigation apps worked beautifully with VoiceOver including Lyft, Uber, Yelp, TripIt (for sight seeing), The Southwest Air app, the Jet Blue app, the Delta Air app, and of course the Apple Maps app.  I mention the Apple Map app because a while back, when visiting San Francisco, the walking directions and the public transportation features of the app did not work as well as expected via VoiceOver.  This past week, however, all aspects of the app worked just as expected.  While in the mid-west, I also made extensive use of the Goodmaps, outdoor, app and was extremely pleased with its intersection announcement feature.I hope everyone is doing well and thank you all for continuing to contribute to this community.Mark



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RE: Hello all:

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

Yeah it’s setup to the be bloody difficult unless your fingers are a foot long.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Wednesday, 18 October 2017 4:07 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hello all:

Simon,

When reseting the PRAM on an iMac, I usually put my left thumb across the left 
cmd and option keys and my left index finger on the r key.  I then awkwardly 
reach around the left side of the iMac with my right hand and press the power 
button.  With my left hand already in place, I can get my right pinky onto the 
right p key much quicker and things work out fine.  Regarding you not reseting 
the PRAM, what's their beef?  Other than reseting a few things to default, it 
shouldn't hurt them one bit.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 17, 2017, at 04:03, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim,

Yeah the resetting PRAM is what I’m doing thus far to correct the issue,
It’s been brought up in meetings to not do it but I work with a number of self 
centred ignorant people who wouldn’t no a disability if I kicked them.

It works so I keep doing it.

Although I’m still having issues when trying to do the PRAM reset on the iMac 
due to keys having to be pressed and where the power button is on the iMac,

As for the fartting in their faces, hmmm, interesting thought, might have to 
give it a try
I’m use to causing trouble it’s really just the depth that varies

Cheers,
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Monday, 16 October 2017 3:59 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Hello all:

Simon,

Another way of getting around the volume thing is to reset the PRAM.  After it 
has been reset, the volume will be back to a level that will be heard by you.  
If it's a case of them muting things so that when you restart, you don't know 
when to hold down the special keys, I usually just shutdown or force shutdown 
the computer so that I'm in control of when it starts.

Finally, you could just fart in the face of everyone who keeps muting the sound 
so that it makes your life difficult.  They'll soon remember to be more 
considerate :).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 15, 2017, at 02:22, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim,

I’ve never vbeen able to get the volume to change when in recovery and I’ve got 
a couple of work colleagues who wont stop muting the system alert.

So I might have to try it again with the shift key



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2017 3:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Hello all:

Hi,

To add to Simon's comments, if you don't hear VO when in the Recovery 
partition, you can use VO-cmd-left or three times, then VO-cmd-up to raise the 
volume.  Don't know for sure if this rotor command has changed in the High 
Sierra version of the Recovery partition.  If so, then you'll need to add the 
shift key to the combination.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 14, 2017, at 02:59, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yes using command R at start up to get into the recovery console / utilities 
you can use vo

Note though that you have to make sure you have the alert volume up
So that means if someone has muted the start up tone on your machine then you 
wont hear the tones, you also wont hear the vo speech at the recovery utilities.

As for how this works on the new machines, I can't say as haven't got one to 
try, but I know on older machines it works fine as I do this for work all the 
time.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez
Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Hello all:

do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover in 
it?
it's command r upon boot right?

On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez mailto:ogomez@gmail.com>> 
wrote:



Hi
I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall...
I think it will be better hahahaha
thanks Tim

On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:



Hi,

This seems to depend on a number of factors.  Specifically, how many
partitions do you have on this disk?  If only two, then your issue is
indeed a problem.  If more than two, then I'll explain a few things
that may help.

• Let's say, f

Re: Hello all:

[Tim Kilburn]

Simon,

When reseting the PRAM on an iMac, I usually put my left thumb across the left 
cmd and option keys and my left index finger on the r key.  I then awkwardly 
reach around the left side of the iMac with my right hand and press the power 
button.  With my left hand already in place, I can get my right pinky onto the 
right p key much quicker and things work out fine.  Regarding you not reseting 
the PRAM, what's their beef?  Other than reseting a few things to default, it 
shouldn't hurt them one bit.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 17, 2017, at 04:03, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Tim,
 
Yeah the resetting PRAM is what I’m doing thus far to correct the issue,
It’s been brought up in meetings to not do it but I work with a number of self 
centred ignorant people who wouldn’t no a disability if I kicked them.
 
It works so I keep doing it.
 
Although I’m still having issues when trying to do the PRAM reset on the iMac 
due to keys having to be pressed and where the power button is on the iMac,
 
As for the fartting in their faces, hmmm, interesting thought, might have to 
give it a try
I’m use to causing trouble it’s really just the depth that varies
 
Cheers, 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Monday, 16 October 2017 3:59 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hello all:
 
Simon,
 
Another way of getting around the volume thing is to reset the PRAM.  After it 
has been reset, the volume will be back to a level that will be heard by you.  
If it's a case of them muting things so that when you restart, you don't know 
when to hold down the special keys, I usually just shutdown or force shutdown 
the computer so that I'm in control of when it starts.
 
Finally, you could just fart in the face of everyone who keeps muting the sound 
so that it makes your life difficult.  They'll soon remember to be more 
considerate :).
 
Later...
 
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
 
On Oct 15, 2017, at 02:22, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
 
Hi Tim,
 
I’ve never vbeen able to get the volume to change when in recovery and I’ve got 
a couple of work colleagues who wont stop muting the system alert.
 
So I might have to try it again with the shift key
 
 
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2017 3:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Hello all:
 
Hi,
 
To add to Simon's comments, if you don't hear VO when in the Recovery 
partition, you can use VO-cmd-left or three times, then VO-cmd-up to raise the 
volume.  Don't know for sure if this rotor command has changed in the High 
Sierra version of the Recovery partition.  If so, then you'll need to add the 
shift key to the combination.
 
Later...
 
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
 
On Oct 14, 2017, at 02:59, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
 
Yes using command R at start up to get into the recovery console / utilities 
you can use vo 

Note though that you have to make sure you have the alert volume up 
So that means if someone has muted the start up tone on your machine then you 
wont hear the tones, you also wont hear the vo speech at the recovery utilities.

As for how this works on the new machines, I can't say as haven't got one to 
try, but I know on older machines it works fine as I do this for work all the 
time.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez
Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Hello all:

do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover in 
it?
it's command r upon boot right?

On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez mailto:ogomez@gmail.com>> 
wrote:


Hi
I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall...
I think it will be better hahahaha
thanks Tim

On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:


Hi,

This seems to depend on a number of factors.  Specifically, how many 
partitions do you have on this disk?  If only two, then your issue is 
indeed a problem.  If more than two, then I'll explain a few things 
that may help.

• Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions.
Macintosh
HD, HD-2 and HD-3.
• using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk 
identifier for these volumes.
• For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4 
respectively.
• So, if you remove disk0s3

RE: Hello all:

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

Yeah the resetting PRAM is what I’m doing thus far to correct the issue,
It’s been brought up in meetings to not do it but I work with a number of self 
centred ignorant people who wouldn’t no a disability if I kicked them.

It works so I keep doing it.

Although I’m still having issues when trying to do the PRAM reset on the iMac 
due to keys having to be pressed and where the power button is on the iMac,

As for the fartting in their faces, hmmm, interesting thought, might have to 
give it a try
I’m use to causing trouble it’s really just the depth that varies

Cheers,
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Monday, 16 October 2017 3:59 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hello all:

Simon,

Another way of getting around the volume thing is to reset the PRAM.  After it 
has been reset, the volume will be back to a level that will be heard by you.  
If it's a case of them muting things so that when you restart, you don't know 
when to hold down the special keys, I usually just shutdown or force shutdown 
the computer so that I'm in control of when it starts.

Finally, you could just fart in the face of everyone who keeps muting the sound 
so that it makes your life difficult.  They'll soon remember to be more 
considerate :).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 15, 2017, at 02:22, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim,

I’ve never vbeen able to get the volume to change when in recovery and I’ve got 
a couple of work colleagues who wont stop muting the system alert.

So I might have to try it again with the shift key



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2017 3:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Hello all:

Hi,

To add to Simon's comments, if you don't hear VO when in the Recovery 
partition, you can use VO-cmd-left or three times, then VO-cmd-up to raise the 
volume.  Don't know for sure if this rotor command has changed in the High 
Sierra version of the Recovery partition.  If so, then you'll need to add the 
shift key to the combination.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 14, 2017, at 02:59, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yes using command R at start up to get into the recovery console / utilities 
you can use vo

Note though that you have to make sure you have the alert volume up
So that means if someone has muted the start up tone on your machine then you 
wont hear the tones, you also wont hear the vo speech at the recovery utilities.

As for how this works on the new machines, I can't say as haven't got one to 
try, but I know on older machines it works fine as I do this for work all the 
time.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez
Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Hello all:

do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover in 
it?
it's command r upon boot right?

On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez mailto:ogomez@gmail.com>> 
wrote:


Hi
I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall...
I think it will be better hahahaha
thanks Tim

On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:


Hi,

This seems to depend on a number of factors.  Specifically, how many
partitions do you have on this disk?  If only two, then your issue is
indeed a problem.  If more than two, then I'll explain a few things
that may help.

• Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions.
Macintosh
HD, HD-2 and HD-3.
• using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk
identifier for these volumes.
• For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4
respectively.
• So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD
(dis0s2) into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3.
• But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your
frustrations begin.  Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3,
you cannot combine
disk0s2 with disks4.  The reason for this is that disk0s3 is
logically "in the way" of any expansion.
• Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the
partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display
the disk identifier, such as disk3s3.
• In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever
need.
• This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or
or if things are formatted in the new APFS format.  Stil

Re: Hello all:

[Tim Kilburn]

Simon,

Another way of getting around the volume thing is to reset the PRAM.  After it 
has been reset, the volume will be back to a level that will be heard by you.  
If it's a case of them muting things so that when you restart, you don't know 
when to hold down the special keys, I usually just shutdown or force shutdown 
the computer so that I'm in control of when it starts.

Finally, you could just fart in the face of everyone who keeps muting the sound 
so that it makes your life difficult.  They'll soon remember to be more 
considerate :).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 15, 2017, at 02:22, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Tim,
 
I’ve never vbeen able to get the volume to change when in recovery and I’ve got 
a couple of work colleagues who wont stop muting the system alert.
 
So I might have to try it again with the shift key
 
 
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2017 3:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hello all:
 
Hi,
 
To add to Simon's comments, if you don't hear VO when in the Recovery 
partition, you can use VO-cmd-left or three times, then VO-cmd-up to raise the 
volume.  Don't know for sure if this rotor command has changed in the High 
Sierra version of the Recovery partition.  If so, then you'll need to add the 
shift key to the combination.
 
Later...
 
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
 
On Oct 14, 2017, at 02:59, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
 
Yes using command R at start up to get into the recovery console / utilities 
you can use vo 

Note though that you have to make sure you have the alert volume up 
So that means if someone has muted the start up tone on your machine then you 
wont hear the tones, you also wont hear the vo speech at the recovery utilities.

As for how this works on the new machines, I can't say as haven't got one to 
try, but I know on older machines it works fine as I do this for work all the 
time.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez
Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Hello all:

do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover in 
it?
it's command r upon boot right?

On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez mailto:ogomez@gmail.com>> 
wrote:

Hi
I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall...
I think it will be better hahahaha
thanks Tim

On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi,

This seems to depend on a number of factors.  Specifically, how many 
partitions do you have on this disk?  If only two, then your issue is 
indeed a problem.  If more than two, then I'll explain a few things 
that may help.

• Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions.
Macintosh
HD, HD-2 and HD-3.
• using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk 
identifier for these volumes.
• For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4 
respectively.
• So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD 
(dis0s2) into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3.
• But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your 
frustrations begin.  Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3, 
you cannot combine
disk0s2 with disks4.  The reason for this is that disk0s3 is 
logically "in the way" of any expansion.
• Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the 
partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display 
the disk identifier, such as disk3s3.
• In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever 
need.
• This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or 
or if things are formatted in the new APFS format.  Still possible, 
but some different arguments.

With all this said, if your partition map has it so that your free 
space is not directly connected to the Macintosh HD partition, then 
the only way you could manipulate things to your favour would be to 
backup or copy the data from the other partition to a totally 
different target, remove that partition, then expand the Macintosh HD 
into the free space and finally re-create a partition for this data 
to return to.  There are also methods within Terminal that can allow 
merging of partitions, but the same restrictions are applied with 
respect to identifier numbering.

I hope this makes some sort of sense.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 12, 2017, at 22:25, Oriol Gómez Sentís mailto:ogomez@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Hello all:
I am trying to use disk util

Re: Hello all:

[Oriol Gómez]

I tried using the recovery tools, however the disk partition seems to
be completely corrupted... I don't have an installation USB and yeah.
I have to use a Sierra one which I am currently creating under
windows... Ugh. I might end up having to take it to an Apple Care.

On 10/15/17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> I’ve never vbeen able to get the volume to change when in recovery and I’ve
> got a couple of work colleagues who wont stop muting the system alert.
>
> So I might have to try it again with the shift key
>
>
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2017 3:12 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Hello all:
>
> Hi,
>
> To add to Simon's comments, if you don't hear VO when in the Recovery
> partition, you can use VO-cmd-left or three times, then VO-cmd-up to raise
> the volume.  Don't know for sure if this rotor command has changed in the
> High Sierra version of the Recovery partition.  If so, then you'll need to
> add the shift key to the combination.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Oct 14, 2017, at 02:59, Simon Fogarty
> mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>
> Yes using command R at start up to get into the recovery console / utilities
> you can use vo
>
> Note though that you have to make sure you have the alert volume up
> So that means if someone has muted the start up tone on your machine then
> you wont hear the tones, you also wont hear the vo speech at the recovery
> utilities.
>
> As for how this works on the new machines, I can't say as haven't got one to
> try, but I know on older machines it works fine as I do this for work all
> the time.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From:
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez
> Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:39 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Hello all:
>
> do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover
> in it?
> it's command r upon boot right?
>
> On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez mailto:ogomez@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi
> I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall...
> I think it will be better hahahaha
> thanks Tim
>
> On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> This seems to depend on a number of factors.  Specifically, how many
> partitions do you have on this disk?  If only two, then your issue is
> indeed a problem.  If more than two, then I'll explain a few things
> that may help.
>
> • Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions.
> Macintosh
> HD, HD-2 and HD-3.
> • using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk
> identifier for these volumes.
> • For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4
> respectively.
> • So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD
> (dis0s2) into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3.
> • But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your
> frustrations begin.  Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3,
> you cannot combine
> disk0s2 with disks4.  The reason for this is that disk0s3 is
> logically "in the way" of any expansion.
> • Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the
> partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display
> the disk identifier, such as disk3s3.
> • In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever
> need.
> • This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or
> or if things are formatted in the new APFS format.  Still possible,
> but some different arguments.
>
> With all this said, if your partition map has it so that your free
> space is not directly connected to the Macintosh HD partition, then
> the only way you could manipulate things to your favour would be to
> backup or copy the data from the other partition to a totally
> different target, remove that partition, then expand the Macintosh HD
> into the free space and finally re-create a partition for this data
> to return to.  There are also methods within Terminal that can allow
> merging of partitions, but the same restrictions are applied with
> respect to identifier numbering.
>
> I hope this makes some sort of sense.
>
> Later...
>
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Oct 12, 2017, at 22:25, Ori

RE: Hello all:

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

I’ve never vbeen able to get the volume to change when in recovery and I’ve got 
a couple of work colleagues who wont stop muting the system alert.

So I might have to try it again with the shift key



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2017 3:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hello all:

Hi,

To add to Simon's comments, if you don't hear VO when in the Recovery 
partition, you can use VO-cmd-left or three times, then VO-cmd-up to raise the 
volume.  Don't know for sure if this rotor command has changed in the High 
Sierra version of the Recovery partition.  If so, then you'll need to add the 
shift key to the combination.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 14, 2017, at 02:59, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yes using command R at start up to get into the recovery console / utilities 
you can use vo

Note though that you have to make sure you have the alert volume up
So that means if someone has muted the start up tone on your machine then you 
wont hear the tones, you also wont hear the vo speech at the recovery utilities.

As for how this works on the new machines, I can't say as haven't got one to 
try, but I know on older machines it works fine as I do this for work all the 
time.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez
Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Hello all:

do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover in 
it?
it's command r upon boot right?

On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez mailto:ogomez@gmail.com>> 
wrote:

Hi
I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall...
I think it will be better hahahaha
thanks Tim

On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi,

This seems to depend on a number of factors.  Specifically, how many
partitions do you have on this disk?  If only two, then your issue is
indeed a problem.  If more than two, then I'll explain a few things
that may help.

• Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions.
Macintosh
HD, HD-2 and HD-3.
• using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk
identifier for these volumes.
• For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4
respectively.
• So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD
(dis0s2) into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3.
• But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your
frustrations begin.  Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3,
you cannot combine
disk0s2 with disks4.  The reason for this is that disk0s3 is
logically "in the way" of any expansion.
• Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the
partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display
the disk identifier, such as disk3s3.
• In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever
need.
• This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or
or if things are formatted in the new APFS format.  Still possible,
but some different arguments.

With all this said, if your partition map has it so that your free
space is not directly connected to the Macintosh HD partition, then
the only way you could manipulate things to your favour would be to
backup or copy the data from the other partition to a totally
different target, remove that partition, then expand the Macintosh HD
into the free space and finally re-create a partition for this data
to return to.  There are also methods within Terminal that can allow
merging of partitions, but the same restrictions are applied with
respect to identifier numbering.

I hope this makes some sort of sense.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 12, 2017, at 22:25, Oriol Gómez Sentís 
mailto:ogomez@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Hello all:
I am trying to use disk utility to enlarge a partition. I deleted the
other volume, and I would like to enlarge my boot volume.
How can I do it? the pi chart seems to be inaccessible… Has anyone
else done this before or os there a way to do it with terminal?

Thanks bunches.
Oriol Gómez Sentís
T: (+34)620788049
Website: http://www.oriolgomez.com



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Re: Hello all:

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

To add to Simon's comments, if you don't hear VO when in the Recovery 
partition, you can use VO-cmd-left or three times, then VO-cmd-up to raise the 
volume.  Don't know for sure if this rotor command has changed in the High 
Sierra version of the Recovery partition.  If so, then you'll need to add the 
shift key to the combination.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 14, 2017, at 02:59, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Yes using command R at start up to get into the recovery console / utilities 
you can use vo 

Note though that you have to make sure you have the alert volume up 
So that means if someone has muted the start up tone on your machine then you 
wont hear the tones, you also wont hear the vo speech at the recovery utilities.

As for how this works on the new machines, I can't say as haven't got one to 
try, but I know on older machines it works fine as I do this for work all the 
time.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez
Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Hello all:

do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover in 
it?
it's command r upon boot right?

On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
> Hi
> I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall...
> I think it will be better hahahaha
> thanks Tim
> 
> On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> This seems to depend on a number of factors.  Specifically, how many 
>> partitions do you have on this disk?  If only two, then your issue is 
>> indeed a problem.  If more than two, then I'll explain a few things 
>> that may help.
>> 
>> • Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions.
>> Macintosh
>> HD, HD-2 and HD-3.
>> • using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk 
>> identifier for these volumes.
>> • For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4 
>> respectively.
>> • So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD 
>> (dis0s2) into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3.
>> • But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your 
>> frustrations begin.  Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3, 
>> you cannot combine
>> disk0s2 with disks4.  The reason for this is that disk0s3 is 
>> logically "in the way" of any expansion.
>> • Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the 
>> partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display 
>> the disk identifier, such as disk3s3.
>> • In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever 
>> need.
>> • This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or 
>> or if things are formatted in the new APFS format.  Still possible, 
>> but some different arguments.
>> 
>> With all this said, if your partition map has it so that your free 
>> space is not directly connected to the Macintosh HD partition, then 
>> the only way you could manipulate things to your favour would be to 
>> backup or copy the data from the other partition to a totally 
>> different target, remove that partition, then expand the Macintosh HD 
>> into the free space and finally re-create a partition for this data 
>> to return to.  There are also methods within Terminal that can allow 
>> merging of partitions, but the same restrictions are applied with 
>> respect to identifier numbering.
>> 
>> I hope this makes some sort of sense.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 22:25, Oriol Gómez Sentís 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all:
>> I am trying to use disk utility to enlarge a partition. I deleted the 
>> other volume, and I would like to enlarge my boot volume.
>> How can I do it? the pi chart seems to be inaccessible… Has anyone 
>> else done this before or os there a way to do it with terminal?
>> 
>> Thanks bunches.
>> Oriol Gómez Sentís
>> T: (+34)620788049
>> Website: http://www.oriolgomez.com
>> 
>> 
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RE: Hello all:

[Simon Fogarty]

Yes using command R at start up to get into the recovery console / utilities 
you can use vo 

Note though that you have to make sure you have the alert volume up 
So that means if someone has muted the start up tone on your machine then you 
wont hear the tones, you also wont hear the vo speech at the recovery utilities.

 As for how this works on the new machines, I can't say as haven't got one to 
try, but I know on older machines it works fine as I do this for work all the 
time.

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez
Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hello all:

do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover in 
it?
it's command r upon boot right?

On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
> Hi
> I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall...
> I think it will be better hahahaha
> thanks Tim
>
> On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This seems to depend on a number of factors.  Specifically, how many 
>> partitions do you have on this disk?  If only two, then your issue is 
>> indeed a problem.  If more than two, then I'll explain a few things 
>> that may help.
>>
>> • Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions.
>> Macintosh
>> HD, HD-2 and HD-3.
>> • using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk 
>> identifier for these volumes.
>> • For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4 
>> respectively.
>> • So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD 
>> (dis0s2) into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3.
>> • But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your 
>> frustrations begin.  Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3, 
>> you cannot combine
>> disk0s2 with disks4.  The reason for this is that disk0s3 is 
>> logically "in the way" of any expansion.
>> • Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the 
>> partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display 
>> the disk identifier, such as disk3s3.
>> • In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever 
>> need.
>> • This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or 
>> or if things are formatted in the new APFS format.  Still possible, 
>> but some different arguments.
>>
>> With all this said, if your partition map has it so that your free 
>> space is not directly connected to the Macintosh HD partition, then 
>> the only way you could manipulate things to your favour would be to 
>> backup or copy the data from the other partition to a totally 
>> different target, remove that partition, then expand the Macintosh HD 
>> into the free space and finally re-create a partition for this data 
>> to return to.  There are also methods within Terminal that can allow 
>> merging of partitions, but the same restrictions are applied with 
>> respect to identifier numbering.
>>
>> I hope this makes some sort of sense.
>>
>> Later...
>>
>>
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>
>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 22:25, Oriol Gómez Sentís 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all:
>> I am trying to use disk utility to enlarge a partition. I deleted the 
>> other volume, and I would like to enlarge my boot volume.
>> How can I do it? the pi chart seems to be inaccessible… Has anyone 
>> else done this before or os there a way to do it with terminal?
>>
>> Thanks bunches.
>> Oriol Gómez Sentís
>> T: (+34)620788049
>> Website: http://www.oriolgomez.com
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Hello all:

[Oriol Gómez]

do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run
voiceover in it?
it's command r upon boot right?

On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
> Hi
> I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall...
> I think it will be better hahahaha
> thanks Tim
>
> On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This seems to depend on a number of factors.  Specifically, how many
>> partitions do you have on this disk?  If only two, then your issue is
>> indeed
>> a problem.  If more than two, then I'll explain a few things that may
>> help.
>>
>> • Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions.
>> Macintosh
>> HD, HD-2 and HD-3.
>> • using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk identifier
>> for
>> these volumes.
>> • For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4
>> respectively.
>> • So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD (dis0s2)
>> into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3.
>> • But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your
>> frustrations
>> begin.  Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3, you cannot combine
>> disk0s2 with disks4.  The reason for this is that disk0s3 is logically
>> "in
>> the way" of any expansion.
>> • Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the
>> partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display the
>> disk identifier, such as disk3s3.
>> • In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever
>> need.
>> • This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or or if
>> things are formatted in the new APFS format.  Still possible, but some
>> different arguments.
>>
>> With all this said, if your partition map has it so that your free space
>> is
>> not directly connected to the Macintosh HD partition, then the only way
>> you
>> could manipulate things to your favour would be to backup or copy the
>> data
>> from the other partition to a totally different target, remove that
>> partition, then expand the Macintosh HD into the free space and finally
>> re-create a partition for this data to return to.  There are also methods
>> within Terminal that can allow merging of partitions, but the same
>> restrictions are applied with respect to identifier numbering.
>>
>> I hope this makes some sort of sense.
>>
>> Later...
>>
>>
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>
>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 22:25, Oriol Gómez Sentís 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all:
>> I am trying to use disk utility to enlarge a partition. I deleted the
>> other
>> volume, and I would like to enlarge my boot volume.
>> How can I do it? the pi chart seems to be inaccessible…
>> Has anyone else done this before or os there a way to do it with
>> terminal?
>>
>> Thanks bunches.
>> Oriol Gómez Sentís
>> T: (+34)620788049
>> Website: http://www.oriolgomez.com
>>
>>
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Re: Hello all:

[Oriol Gómez]

Hi
I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall...
I think it will be better hahahaha
thanks Tim

On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This seems to depend on a number of factors.  Specifically, how many
> partitions do you have on this disk?  If only two, then your issue is indeed
> a problem.  If more than two, then I'll explain a few things that may help.
>
> • Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions.  Macintosh
> HD, HD-2 and HD-3.
> • using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk identifier for
> these volumes.
> • For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4
> respectively.
> • So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD (dis0s2)
> into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3.
> • But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your frustrations
> begin.  Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3, you cannot combine
> disk0s2 with disks4.  The reason for this is that disk0s3 is logically "in
> the way" of any expansion.
> • Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the
> partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display the
> disk identifier, such as disk3s3.
> • In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever need.
> • This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or or if
> things are formatted in the new APFS format.  Still possible, but some
> different arguments.
>
> With all this said, if your partition map has it so that your free space is
> not directly connected to the Macintosh HD partition, then the only way you
> could manipulate things to your favour would be to backup or copy the data
> from the other partition to a totally different target, remove that
> partition, then expand the Macintosh HD into the free space and finally
> re-create a partition for this data to return to.  There are also methods
> within Terminal that can allow merging of partitions, but the same
> restrictions are applied with respect to identifier numbering.
>
> I hope this makes some sort of sense.
>
> Later...
>
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Oct 12, 2017, at 22:25, Oriol Gómez Sentís  wrote:
>
> Hello all:
> I am trying to use disk utility to enlarge a partition. I deleted the other
> volume, and I would like to enlarge my boot volume.
> How can I do it? the pi chart seems to be inaccessible…
> Has anyone else done this before or os there a way to do it with terminal?
>
> Thanks bunches.
> Oriol Gómez Sentís
> T: (+34)620788049
> Website: http://www.oriolgomez.com
>
>
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Re: Hello all:

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

This seems to depend on a number of factors.  Specifically, how many partitions 
do you have on this disk?  If only two, then your issue is indeed a problem.  
If more than two, then I'll explain a few things that may help.

• Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions.  Macintosh 
HD, HD-2 and HD-3.
• using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk identifier for 
these volumes.
• For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4 
respectively.
• So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD (dis0s2) into 
the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3.
• But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your frustrations 
begin.  Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3, you cannot combine 
disk0s2 with disks4.  The reason for this is that disk0s3 is logically "in the 
way" of any expansion.
• Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the partition 
from the table and the last item on the screen will display the disk 
identifier, such as disk3s3.
• In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever need.
• This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or or if 
things are formatted in the new APFS format.  Still possible, but some 
different arguments.

With all this said, if your partition map has it so that your free space is not 
directly connected to the Macintosh HD partition, then the only way you could 
manipulate things to your favour would be to backup or copy the data from the 
other partition to a totally different target, remove that partition, then 
expand the Macintosh HD into the free space and finally re-create a partition 
for this data to return to.  There are also methods within Terminal that can 
allow merging of partitions, but the same restrictions are applied with respect 
to identifier numbering.

I hope this makes some sort of sense.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 12, 2017, at 22:25, Oriol Gómez Sentís  wrote:

Hello all:
I am trying to use disk utility to enlarge a partition. I deleted the other 
volume, and I would like to enlarge my boot volume.
How can I do it? the pi chart seems to be inaccessible…
Has anyone else done this before or os there a way to do it with terminal?

Thanks bunches.
Oriol Gómez Sentís
T: (+34)620788049
Website: http://www.oriolgomez.com



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Re: Hello again: Apple sends out invitations for October 27 Mac event

[Scott Granados]

I can feel my wallet getting lighter already!

And I just bought this MacBook Mid 2015 in August.:)


> On Oct 23, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Christopher Hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/10/19/apple-mac-october-27-event/ 
> 
> 
> Hello again: Apple sends out invitations for October 27 Mac event
> 
> 
> 
> It’s official! Apple is holding an event on Thursday, October 27 on its 
> Cupertino campus. On Wednesday afternoon the company sent out the above 
> invitation to select members of the media, asking them to “join us for a 
> special event.”
> 
> We’ve been expecting an October Apple event for several weeks 
> 
>  now, and yesterday a Recode report 
>  
> accurately predicted it would happen on the 27. And as the invite indicates, 
> the focus of the event is believed to be new Mac hardware.
> 
> 
> concept by Martin Hajek
> 
> But just what that new hardware could be is anyone’s guess. The redesigned 
> MacBook Pro , with OLED touch 
> bar and Touch ID, seems like safe bet, as does some sort of MacBook Air 
> update 
> . 
> There has also been rumors 
> 
>  of new hi-res displays.
> 
> Apple will be live-streaming 
>  the event, which kicks off 
> at 10 a.m. (PDT) on October 27. As usual, we will be covering the event live 
> here on iDB, as well as all subsequent announcements throughout the day. 
> 
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Re: Hello Anne

[christopher hallsworth]

Wow! Grumpy indeed. I am always in the notion that Apple never “forces” users 
anything down their throats, upgrading to Sierra being one of them. It’s not 
even in Software Update; you have to grab it from the Mac App Store yourself. 
It isn’t just thrown at you like the other boys tried, at their very best I 
must say, when they pushed users running Windows 7 or 8.1 to 10. Of course, 
that isn’t happening now the free offer has expired, but you get the idea. Just 
my £0.02 worth and will get out of my soapbox before I say anything I will 
later regret.


> On 28 Sep 2016, at 15:34, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Totally skewed. Apple has not made the decision for you, you did, as we all 
> do, to press the upgrade button or not to press the upgrade button.
> 
>   Good luck with the Ultra Book. Nothing will change with that, only the 
> names.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 9/28/2016 7:26 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
>> Yes Anne, I can live quite well with El Capitan. I think the only thing in
>> Sierra that would have been useful was the removal of the focus bug along
>> with a few others. Not a show stopper however.
>> 
>> The thing that annoys me is, that Apple have decided to not even give me the
>> opportunity to try the new operating system for myself. Yes, it might well
>> have been slower than on the latest and greatest. And, yes I might have had
>> to go back to El Capitan because of that. Nevertheless, I do not like the
>> decision taken out of my own hands by others.
>> 
>> As I have said, El Capitan is fine. I am now old enough to have convinced my
>> ego that contentment is not to be found in the latest offering from the boys
>> in Silicone Valley. It was my intention to purchase something more portable,
>> such as the Mac Book Air, in the early part of 2017. However, I shall
>> instead go down the Ultra Book road running Windows 10. I can buy the said
>> machine with a good speck of 16GB of RAM and a 256GB SSD drive for a lot
>> less than anything on offer from Apple. OK, the components may not be the
>> best that money can buy, but do they have to be in the throw-away world of
>> today.
>> 
>> The advice I would offer to anyone buying a Mac is quite simply this,
>> purchase the lowest, and thus the cheapest, speck that you can get away with
>> for your needs. Don't even consider extra RAM or more hard disc space in the
>> hope of prolonging the lifetime of your investment. I understand, but do not
>> agree with, the market forces that guide a lot of decisions being made by
>> manufacturers which are not in the best interest of consumers. Having  been
>> given the operating system free of charge might not be such a good idea
>> after all. But, then I never thought it was because in such offerings there
>> is always a hidden cost.
>> Take care Anne.
>> From grumpy Marty
>> 
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Re: Hello Anne

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Martin,

The release of Sierra has not rendered your Mini obsolete, thus also has not 
forced you to throw away a perfectly good machine, nor does it force your hand 
into purchasing a new computer.  That Mini works very well with El Capitan and 
will likely continue working well for quite a while.  You mentioned that you 
have 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB HD in your Mini, which is fine, but even if you 
have 16 GB RAM and a 1 TB SSD, there are many other factors that come into play 
including the processor, Cache speed, memory speed, video memory, the number of 
processors etc, which all together determine whether a system can work on any 
given machine.  In the past, I have forced a new MacOS onto an older machine 
and the results were obvious.  Yes, it worked, but it was brutal to operate.  
So very slow, especially with VO and speech.  Almost painful.  I totally 
disagree with your suggestion of purchasing the lowest end Mac as opposed to 
beefing it up a little.  As the feature set grows, your system is taxed 
further, thus having a few components that are beyond minimum will allow your 
experience to be richer, longer.

Just my thoughts.

Have a good one.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 28, 2016, at 08:26, Martin Brown  wrote:

Yes Anne, I can live quite well with El Capitan. I think the only thing in
Sierra that would have been useful was the removal of the focus bug along
with a few others. Not a show stopper however.

The thing that annoys me is, that Apple have decided to not even give me the
opportunity to try the new operating system for myself. Yes, it might well
have been slower than on the latest and greatest. And, yes I might have had
to go back to El Capitan because of that. Nevertheless, I do not like the
decision taken out of my own hands by others.

As I have said, El Capitan is fine. I am now old enough to have convinced my
ego that contentment is not to be found in the latest offering from the boys
in Silicone Valley. It was my intention to purchase something more portable,
such as the Mac Book Air, in the early part of 2017. However, I shall
instead go down the Ultra Book road running Windows 10. I can buy the said
machine with a good speck of 16GB of RAM and a 256GB SSD drive for a lot
less than anything on offer from Apple. OK, the components may not be the
best that money can buy, but do they have to be in the throw-away world of
today. 

The advice I would offer to anyone buying a Mac is quite simply this,
purchase the lowest, and thus the cheapest, speck that you can get away with
for your needs. Don't even consider extra RAM or more hard disc space in the
hope of prolonging the lifetime of your investment. I understand, but do not
agree with, the market forces that guide a lot of decisions being made by
manufacturers which are not in the best interest of consumers. Having  been
given the operating system free of charge might not be such a good idea
after all. But, then I never thought it was because in such offerings there
is always a hidden cost. 
Take care Anne.
>From grumpy Marty

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Re: Hello Anne

[E.T.]

   Totally skewed. Apple has not made the decision for you, you did, as 
we all do, to press the upgrade button or not to press the upgrade button.


   Good luck with the Ultra Book. Nothing will change with that, only 
the names.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/28/2016 7:26 AM, Martin Brown wrote:

 Yes Anne, I can live quite well with El Capitan. I think the only thing in
Sierra that would have been useful was the removal of the focus bug along
with a few others. Not a show stopper however.

The thing that annoys me is, that Apple have decided to not even give me the
opportunity to try the new operating system for myself. Yes, it might well
have been slower than on the latest and greatest. And, yes I might have had
to go back to El Capitan because of that. Nevertheless, I do not like the
decision taken out of my own hands by others.

As I have said, El Capitan is fine. I am now old enough to have convinced my
ego that contentment is not to be found in the latest offering from the boys
in Silicone Valley. It was my intention to purchase something more portable,
such as the Mac Book Air, in the early part of 2017. However, I shall
instead go down the Ultra Book road running Windows 10. I can buy the said
machine with a good speck of 16GB of RAM and a 256GB SSD drive for a lot
less than anything on offer from Apple. OK, the components may not be the
best that money can buy, but do they have to be in the throw-away world of
today.

The advice I would offer to anyone buying a Mac is quite simply this,
purchase the lowest, and thus the cheapest, speck that you can get away with
for your needs. Don't even consider extra RAM or more hard disc space in the
hope of prolonging the lifetime of your investment. I understand, but do not
agree with, the market forces that guide a lot of decisions being made by
manufacturers which are not in the best interest of consumers. Having  been
given the operating system free of charge might not be such a good idea
after all. But, then I never thought it was because in such offerings there
is always a hidden cost.
Take care Anne.
From grumpy Marty



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Re: Hello everyone

[Shawn Krasniuk]

I haven't heard about ESpeak being available for iOS 8 unless you jailbreak it 
and you find a tweak for it. Other than that, there's no way of installing 
other synthesizers.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

> On Feb 7, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Hossein Ourangy  wrote:
> 
> I want to ask a question about installing an other synthesizer like
> espeak for ios8 or no?
> I heard that espeak is designed for ios and mac.
> please somebody help me
> many thanks
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Re: Hello everyone

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Espeak can be installed on a mac but does not work with voiceover.
At least when i tried it.
/A
> 7 feb 2015 kl. 17:24 skrev Hossein Ourangy :
> 
> I want to ask a question about installing an other synthesizer like
> espeak for ios8 or no?
> I heard that espeak is designed for ios and mac.
> please somebody help me
> many thanks
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Re: hello i have some problems

[Esther]

Hi Abdullah,

I'll try to answer your questions.  The default shortcut to change
keyboard languages, if you have more than one language keyboard set up
for your Mac, is Command-space.  There isn't a complete user guide for
Mac, but the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide on your Mac has useful
sections on learning Mac OS X Basics and Using Mac OS X Applications.
You can access an HTML copy of the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide by
pressing VO-H (that's Control-Option-H), and navigating to the bottom
of the menu.  If you're using OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion, you can also
read that guide on the web in various language.  Here are the URLs for
English and Arabic:
• VoiceOver Getting Started Guide, Mountain Lion (English)
http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/English.lproj/index.html
• VoiceOver Getting Started Guide, Mountain Lion (Arabic)
http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/ar.lproj/index.html
If you are looking for a different language manual, please ask.  You
can also get and RTF version of this user guide, in English only, from
the Documentation page of John Panarese's Mac for the Blind web site:
http://macfortheblind.com/documentation

For some general notes on switching to the Mac from Windows, the
AppleVis Guides pages have a useful post by David Woodbridge:
• A Guide to Making the Switch from Using a Windows Screen Reader to
VoiceOver on a Mac:
http://www.applevis.com/guides/guide-making-switch-using-windows-screen-reader-voiceover-Mac

You can install applications either by using the Mac App Store, or by
separately downloading and installing third party apps.  A good place
to find third party apps for the Mac is the MacUpdate site -- just do
a Google search for the app name along with "macupdate".  Most Mac
apps are installed by simply copying the application bundle to your
Applications folder, and are deleted by moving that application to the
Trash.  A few applications that need to take control of other apps in
order to run will come with installers as in Windows, and should also
be removed by running an uninstalled from the same app.  Installing
apps with either method requires you to use an Administrator's
password to authorize the installation.  A common file format used for
application installations is a disk image file, with ".dmg" extension.
These files mount on your system like external disk drives, which give
them special privileges that make the installation process more
transparent.  After you copy the application bundle from the disk
image file to your applications folder, you can eject the disk image
file with Command-E, and then send it to the Trash.  Another common
file format used for distributing applications is the zip format.
Again, you move the unzipped application to your Applications folder,
and move it to the Trash if you want to uninstall it.  This covers
most of the general information about applications.  If you have more
questions, you'll have to provide a more specific answer.  For
example, it may be possible that installing a particular application
will require you to temporarily disable the Gatekeeper software that
is used with Mountain Lion.  This will not be necessary for apps
installed from the Mac App Store, all of which have the developer's
authentication.  It may not be necessary for other third party
software, depending on the source.  But this is something new, and
specific to Mountain Lion's additional security precautions that you
may need to deal with for specific, third party software sources.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther,


On Mar 8, 6:40 am, Abdullah Alsehli  wrote:
> hello i have some problems first i want command to change keyboard  language 
> second i want no more about installing apps therd i want complete user guide 
> for mac
> best regard abdullah

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Re: Hello

[Megan L]

Hey,
I'm also a newbie to this list. I made the switch from Windows to the Mac a few 
months ago, when I got fed up with having to pay extra money just so I could 
have the level of access that I wanted to have on my computer. I'm currently a 
university student, and I love my macbook Pro. It's got a longer battery life, 
and is more portable, durable and faster than any windows machine I've ever 
owned. know I have a lot to learn about the mac, but so far it's suited my 
needs perfectly. And the wonderful thing is you can also run Windows on a mac, 
so if there's a program that you need to use on the windows side of things, you 
don't have to miss out. YOu can have the best of both worlds.
The Mac OS is very different from Windows, but once you get used to it it's 
real easy to use, and you can do many things that you can't do with windows.

Hope this helps,
Meg
On 2011-11-02, at 3:09 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

> Hi, Gigi,
> Thank you so much for all of your help! I really appreciate it, because I 
> don't know how to decide whether I want a Windows or a Mac machine.  I will 
> concider all of your advice, and I will do as much research as I can before I 
> make my choice.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jasmine
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Gigi  To: "macvisionaries@googlegroups.com"  Date sent: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 04:19:48 -0500
> Subject: Re: Hello
> 
> I am now retired from teaching and customer service work these days, so I 
> thought I'd weigh in on this subject.  If you want to go further back, Apple 
> 2 E's used to dominate education as far as computers went.
> 
> I think when you are deciding what computer you want you have to decide what 
> your needs are now because by the time you get out of school and get to that 
> all-important job, you'll have to know what the school district has and fit 
> yourself in.  If you're lucky, you can have your own system and only have to 
> connect with theirs to enter grades and student records.
> 
> Right now you have to get through education with your computer choice.  I 
> would think little would be the first choice so you could wag things around.  
> These days, a lot of universities have electronic library material available. 
>  You might want to go and visit the university of your choice and investigate 
> what they have have, both for disabled and nondisabled students.  You'll want 
> to find out how you get the library files and what systems can access them.
> 
> I recently investigated going to graduate school, and the university had all 
> kinds of things like braille displays, Jaws, Kurzweil 1000, and braille 
> embossers.  NNondisabled studeents had access to electronic edia, and I could 
> have used any system of mine I wanted to access it.
> Personally, I think devices like iPads and MacBook Airs are going to be 
> important for us.  You can do things on iOS devices that we've not been able 
> to do before as easily like moving icons around with touch and hold.
> 
> You're going to want to do a lot of word processing at home for lesson plans. 
>  You can do that with any accessible system, whether Windows or Mac.  You'll 
> want to be doing fancy color stuff.  I had a blind friend whose principal 
> decided that everybody should underline objectives in certain colors, no 
> exceptions to that.
> 
> Internet access will be another biggie for you.  I think both types of 
> computers can that ok.  Email can be done of either as well.  I haven't tried 
> scanning programs on the Mac yet, so others will need to comment about that.
> 
> I am avoiding doing so myself, because I don't need to, but you can put 
> Windows on a Mac.  You could have both Macintosh programs and Windows on your 
> Mac.  I've heard it runs Windows faster than other computers.  I hope all 
> this helps, and happy researching.
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 1, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Unfortunately, I'm not going to be in programming or networking.  I'm trying 
> to get my teaching credentials in a few years, so I'm not sure what kind of 
> computer to get in the future.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Louie P.  (Pete) Nalda"  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 19:21:12 -0500
> Subject: Re: Hello
> 
> I think that the biggest difference you'll have is a slight learning curve 
> using VoiceOver as opposed to Jaws or other Windows screenreaders.  I myself, 
> am not the one to ask, but do invite others with hands on both sides to give 
> you more details.  As for compatibility with things like blackboard a

Re: Hello

[Jasmine Kotsay]

Hi, Gigi,
Thank you so much for all of your help! I really appreciate it, 
because I don't know how to decide whether I want a Windows or a 
Mac machine.  I will concider all of your advice, and I will do 
as much research as I can before I make my choice.


Sincerely,
Jasmine

- Original Message -
From: Gigi To: "macvisionaries@googlegroups.com" 

Date sent: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 04:19:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Hello

I am now retired from teaching and customer service work these 
days, so I thought I'd weigh in on this subject.  If you want to 
go further back, Apple 2 E's used to dominate education as far as 
computers went.


I think when you are deciding what computer you want you have to 
decide what your needs are now because by the time you get out of 
school and get to that all-important job, you'll have to know 
what the school district has and fit yourself in.  If you're 
lucky, you can have your own system and only have to connect with 
theirs to enter grades and student records.


Right now you have to get through education with your computer 
choice.  I would think little would be the first choice so you 
could wag things around.  These days, a lot of universities have 
electronic library material available.  You might want to go and 
visit the university of your choice and investigate what they 
have have, both for disabled and nondisabled students.  You'll 
want to find out how you get the library files and what systems 
can access them.


I recently investigated going to graduate school, and the 
university had all kinds of things like braille displays, Jaws, 
Kurzweil 1000, and braille embossers.  NNondisabled studeents had 
access to electronic edia, and I could have used any system of 
mine I wanted to access it.
Personally, I think devices like iPads and MacBook Airs are going 
to be important for us.  You can do things on iOS devices that 
we've not been able to do before as easily like moving icons 
around with touch and hold.


You're going to want to do a lot of word processing at home for 
lesson plans.  You can do that with any accessible system, 
whether Windows or Mac.  You'll want to be doing fancy color 
stuff.  I had a blind friend whose principal decided that 
everybody should underline objectives in certain colors, no 
exceptions to that.


Internet access will be another biggie for you.  I think both 
types of computers can that ok.  Email can be done of either as 
well.  I haven't tried scanning programs on the Mac yet, so 
others will need to comment about that.


I am avoiding doing so myself, because I don't need to, but you 
can put Windows on a Mac.  You could have both Macintosh programs 
and Windows on your Mac.  I've heard it runs Windows faster than 
other computers.  I hope all this helps, and happy researching.


Regards,
Gigi




Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 1, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Jasmine Kotsay 
 wrote:


Hi,
Unfortunately, I'm not going to be in programming or networking.  
I'm trying to get my teaching credentials in a few years, so I'm 
not sure what kind of computer to get in the future.


- Original Message -
From: "Louie P.  (Pete) Nalda" I think that the biggest difference you'll have is a slight 
learning curve using VoiceOver as opposed to Jaws or other 
Windows screenreaders.  I myself, am not the one to ask, but do 
invite others with hands on both sides to give you more details.  
As for compatibility with things like blackboard and Word, again, 
I'm not sure, as I worked in Electronic publishing in school, and 
most of our machines were macs, and I'm more of a Zoom user than 
a VO user, except when my eyes fatigue.  If you're going into 
programming or networking, I feel the mac is a nice choice 
because you have BSD Unix built right in, and if need be, can 
work directly from the terminal.



On Nov 1, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:

Hi,

I can't answer most of your questions as I am a novice at the 
mac myself, but I will tell you that you will like it once you 
get the hang of it.


The only thing I really know how to do is some e-mail and some 
safari stuff.  I wish you the best and I hope you like it as much 
as I do.


Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

Hi,

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Re: Hello

[Gigi]

I am now retired from teaching and customer service work these days, so I 
thought I'd weigh in on this subject. If you want to go further back, Apple 2 
E's used to dominate education as far as computers went. 

I think when you are deciding what computer you want you have to decide what 
your needs are now because by the time you get out of school and get to that 
all-important job, you'll have to know what the school district has and fit 
yourself in. If you're lucky, you can have your own system and only have to 
connect with theirs to enter grades and student records. 

Right now you have to get through education with your computer choice. I would 
think little would be the first choice so you could wag things around. These 
days, a lot of universities have electronic library material available. You 
might want to go and visit the university of your choice and investigate what 
they have have, both for disabled and nondisabled students. You'll want to find 
out how you get the library files and what systems can access them. 

I recently investigated going to graduate school, and the university had all 
kinds of things like braille displays, Jaws, Kurzweil 1000, and braille 
embossers. NNondisabled studeents had access to electronic edia, and I could 
have used any system of mine I wanted to access it. 
Personally, I think devices like iPads and MacBook Airs are going to be 
important for us. You can do things on iOS devices that we've not been able to 
do before as easily like moving icons around with touch and hold. 

You're going to want to do a lot of word processing at home for lesson plans. 
You can do that with any accessible system, whether Windows or Mac. You'll want 
to be doing fancy color stuff. I had a blind friend whose principal decided 
that everybody should underline objectives in certain colors, no exceptions to 
that. 

Internet access will be another biggie for you. I think both types of computers 
can that ok. Email can be done of either as well. I haven't tried scanning 
programs on the Mac yet, so others will need to comment about that. 

I am avoiding doing so myself, because I don't need to, but you can put Windows 
on a Mac. You could have both Macintosh programs and Windows on your Mac. I've 
heard it runs Windows faster than other computers. I hope all this helps, and 
happy researching. 

Regards,
Gigi




Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 1, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  wrote:

> Hi,
> Unfortunately, I'm not going to be in programming or networking.  I'm trying 
> to get my teaching credentials in a few years, so I'm not sure what kind of 
> computer to get in the future.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Louie P.  (Pete) Nalda"  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 19:21:12 -0500
> Subject: Re: Hello
> 
> I think that the biggest difference you'll have is a slight learning curve 
> using VoiceOver as opposed to Jaws or other Windows screenreaders.  I myself, 
> am not the one to ask, but do invite others with hands on both sides to give 
> you more details.  As for compatibility with things like blackboard and Word, 
> again, I'm not sure, as I worked in Electronic publishing in school, and most 
> of our machines were macs, and I'm more of a Zoom user than a VO user, except 
> when my eyes fatigue.  If you're going into programming or networking, I feel 
> the mac is a nice choice because you have BSD Unix built right in, and if 
> need be, can work directly from the terminal.
> 
> 
> On Nov 1, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I can't answer most of your questions as I am a novice at the mac myself, but 
> I will tell you that you will like it once you get the hang of it.
> 
> The only thing I really know how to do is some e-mail and some safari stuff.  
> I wish you the best and I hope you like it as much as I do.
> 
> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
> On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:
> 
> Hi,

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Re: Hello

[Jasmine Kotsay]

Thank you!

- Original Message -
From: "Louie P.  (Pete) Nalda" I think the archives can be found by going to the more options 
link at the bottom of the links section, or from the main page at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/



On Nov 1, 2011, at 6:51 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

Hi,
Where can I find archives that you mentioned?


- Original Message -
From: "Red.Falcon" If you can look in the archives for word processors you should 
find info about them there!

hth Colin

On 1 Nov 2011, at 23:12, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

Thank you!

- Original Message -
From: "Red.Falcon" Well, I'm going to college, and I would need to do a lot of word 
processing on my computer.  I want a computer that will last long 
and not get viruses.  I don't mind the learning curve, because I 
love a challenge.  I just need a computer that will do at least 
most of what Windows can do.  I'm not familiar with how Macs 
work.  I've had a few minutes to try Of voiceOver, but it was the 
little thing on the computer that shows you how to use voice 
over.


- Original Message -
From: Teresa Cochran Welcome to the list.  Well, your question opens a huge can of 
worms.  Where do you want to start? What do you want to do with 
your computer.  If you're used to using Windows, are there 
applications that you simply need to use in Windows? Keep in mind 
that you can use Windows on a Mac with some frequency once you 
set it up.  The Mac is extremely accessible, but also extremely 
different from Windows, and involves quite a learning curve.  If 
you're up for an adventure in learning a new screen-reader and 
operating system, then you'll have fun switching.  I pretty much 
jumped right in, with the help of a book, from OReilly media, 
Switching to the Mac.


Take care,
Teresa

"Slow down; you'll get there faster."

On Nov 1, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

Dear Listers,

My name is Jasmine, and I am extremely new to the list.
I was wondering if anyone could please tell me what differences 
they find in the Mac computers vs Windows computers? I'm trying 
to figure out which type of computer I would like to get next.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Sincerely,
Jasmine

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Re: Hello

[Louie P. (Pete) Nalda]

I think the archives can be found by going to the more options link at the 
bottom of the links section, or from the main page at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/


On Nov 1, 2011, at 6:51 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

> Hi,
> Where can I find archives that you mentioned?
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Red.Falcon"  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:40:43 +
> Subject: Re: Hello
> 
> Hi Jasmine!
> Three options for word processing are
> Pages, Open office and Nisus Writer pro!
> And of course you will have text edit on your Mac!
> If you can look in the archives for word processors you should find info 
> about them there!
> hth Colin
> 
> On 1 Nov 2011, at 23:12, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Red.Falcon"  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 22:46:00 +
> Subject: Re: Hello
> 
> Hi Jasmine!
> Welcome!
> OK do not let anyone sell you windows office for Mac!
> It is not accessible with vo!
> So save your money [or there's] :]
> hth Colin
> 
> On 1 Nov 2011, at 22:34, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Well, I'm going to college, and I would need to do a lot of word processing 
> on my computer.  I want a computer that will last long and not get viruses.  
> I don't mind the learning curve, because I love a challenge.  I just need a 
> computer that will do at least most of what Windows can do.  I'm not familiar 
> with how Macs work.  I've had a few minutes to try Of voiceOver, but it was 
> the little thing on the computer that shows you how to use voice over.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Teresa Cochran  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 15:26:39 -0700
> Subject: Re: Hello
> 
> Hi, Jasmine,
> 
> Welcome to the list.  Well, your question opens a huge can of worms.  Where 
> do you want to start? What do you want to do with your computer.  If you're 
> used to using Windows, are there applications that you simply need to use in 
> Windows? Keep in mind that you can use Windows on a Mac with some frequency 
> once you set it up.  The Mac is extremely accessible, but also extremely 
> different from Windows, and involves quite a learning curve.  If you're up 
> for an adventure in learning a new screen-reader and operating system, then 
> you'll have fun switching.  I pretty much jumped right in, with the help of a 
> book, from OReilly media, Switching to the Mac.
> 
> Take care,
> Teresa
> 
> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
> 
> On Nov 1, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:
> 
> Dear Listers,
> 
> My name is Jasmine, and I am extremely new to the list.
> I was wondering if anyone could please tell me what differences they find in 
> the Mac computers vs Windows computers? I'm trying to figure out which type 
> of computer I would like to get next.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jasmine
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Re: Hello

[Louie P. (Pete) Nalda]

Well, there used to be a time when there were a lot of macs in the school 
system, I'd imagine, in some ways there are still.

On Nov 1, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

> Hi,
> Unfortunately, I'm not going to be in programming or networking.  I'm trying 
> to get my teaching credentials in a few years, so I'm not sure what kind of 
> computer to get in the future.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Louie P.  (Pete) Nalda"  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 19:21:12 -0500
> Subject: Re: Hello
> 
> I think that the biggest difference you'll have is a slight learning curve 
> using VoiceOver as opposed to Jaws or other Windows screenreaders.  I myself, 
> am not the one to ask, but do invite others with hands on both sides to give 
> you more details.  As for compatibility with things like blackboard and Word, 
> again, I'm not sure, as I worked in Electronic publishing in school, and most 
> of our machines were macs, and I'm more of a Zoom user than a VO user, except 
> when my eyes fatigue.  If you're going into programming or networking, I feel 
> the mac is a nice choice because you have BSD Unix built right in, and if 
> need be, can work directly from the terminal.
> 
> 
> On Nov 1, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I can't answer most of your questions as I am a novice at the mac myself, but 
> I will tell you that you will like it once you get the hang of it.
> 
> The only thing I really know how to do is some e-mail and some safari stuff.  
> I wish you the best and I hope you like it as much as I do.
> 
> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
> On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Well, I'm going to college, and I would need to do a lot of wordprocessing on 
> my computer.  I want a computer that will last long and not get viruses.  I 
> don't mind the learning curve, because I love a challenge.  I just need a 
> computer that will do at least most of what Windows can do.  I'm not familiar 
> with how Macs work.  I've had a few minutes to try OfoiceOver, but it was the 
> little thing on the computer that shows you how to use voice over.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Teresa Cochran  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 15:26:39 -0700
> Subject: Re: Hello
> 
> Hi, Jasmine,
> 
> Welcome to the list.  Well, your question opens a huge can of worms.  Where 
> do you want to start? What do you want to do with your computer.  If you're 
> used to using Windows, are there applications that you simply need to use in 
> Windows? Keep in mind that you can use Windows on a Mac with some frequency 
> once you set it up.  The Mac is extremely accessible, but also extremely 
> different from Windows, and involves quite a learning curve.  If you're up 
> for an adventure in learning a new screen-reader and operating system, then 
> you'll have fun switching.  I pretty much jumped right in, with the help of a 
> book, from OReilly media, Switching to the Mac.
> 
> Take care,
> Teresa
> 
> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
> 
> On Nov 1, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:
> 
> Dear Listers,
> 
> My name is Jasmine, and I am extremely new to the list.
> I was wondering if anyone could please tell me what differences they find in 
> the Mac computers vs Windows computers? I'm trying to figure out which type 
> of computer I would like to get next.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jasmine
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Re: Hello

[Jasmine Kotsay]

Hi,
Unfortunately, I'm not going to be in programming or networking.  
I'm trying to get my teaching credentials in a few years, so I'm 
not sure what kind of computer to get in the future.


- Original Message -
From: "Louie P.  (Pete) Nalda" I think that the biggest difference you'll have is a slight 
learning curve using VoiceOver as opposed to Jaws or other 
Windows screenreaders.  I myself, am not the one to ask, but do 
invite others with hands on both sides to give you more details.  
As for compatibility with things like blackboard and Word, again, 
I'm not sure, as I worked in Electronic publishing in school, and 
most of our machines were macs, and I'm more of a Zoom user than 
a VO user, except when my eyes fatigue.  If you're going into 
programming or networking, I feel the mac is a nice choice 
because you have BSD Unix built right in, and if need be, can 
work directly from the terminal.



On Nov 1, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:

Hi,

I can't answer most of your questions as I am a novice at the 
mac myself, but I will tell you that you will like it once you 
get the hang of it.


The only thing I really know how to do is some e-mail and some 
safari stuff.  I wish you the best and I hope you like it as much 
as I do.


Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

Hi,
Well, I'm going to college, and I would need to do a lot of 
wordprocessing on my computer.  I want a computer that will last 
long and not get viruses.  I don't mind the learning curve, 
because I love a challenge.  I just need a computer that will do 
at least most of what Windows can do.  I'm not familiar with how 
Macs work.  I've had a few minutes to try OfoiceOver, but it was 
the little thing on the computer that shows you how to use voice 
over.


- Original Message -
From: Teresa Cochran Welcome to the list.  Well, your question opens a huge can of 
worms.  Where do you want to start? What do you want to do with 
your computer.  If you're used to using Windows, are there 
applications that you simply need to use in Windows? Keep in mind 
that you can use Windows on a Mac with some frequency once you 
set it up.  The Mac is extremely accessible, but also extremely 
different from Windows, and involves quite a learning curve.  If 
you're up for an adventure in learning a new screen-reader and 
operating system, then you'll have fun switching.  I pretty much 
jumped right in, with the help of a book, from OReilly media, 
Switching to the Mac.


Take care,
Teresa

"Slow down; you'll get there faster."

On Nov 1, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

Dear Listers,

My name is Jasmine, and I am extremely new to the list.
I was wondering if anyone could please tell me what differences 
they find in the Mac computers vs Windows computers? I'm trying 
to figure out which type of computer I would like to get next.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Sincerely,
Jasmine

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Re: Hello

[Louie P. (Pete) Nalda]

I think that the biggest difference you'll have is a slight learning curve 
using VoiceOver as opposed to Jaws or other Windows screenreaders.  I myself, 
am not the one to ask, but do invite others with hands on both sides to give 
you more details.  As for compatibility with things like blackboard and Word, 
again, I'm not sure, as I worked in Electronic publishing in school, and most 
of our machines were macs, and I'm more of a Zoom user than a VO user, except 
when my eyes fatigue.  If you're going into programming or networking, I feel 
the mac is a nice choice because you have BSD Unix built right in, and if need 
be, can work directly from the terminal.


On Nov 1, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I can't answer most of your questions as I am a novice at the mac myself, but 
> I will tell you that you will like it once you get the hang of it.  
> 
> The only thing I really know how to do is some e-mail and some safari stuff.  
> I wish you the best and I hope you like it as much as I do.
> 
> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
> On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Well, I'm going to college, and I would need to do a lot of wordprocessing 
>> on my computer.  I want a computer that will last long and not get viruses.  
>> I don't mind the learning curve, because I love a challenge.  I just need a 
>> computer that will do at least most of what Windows can do.  I'm not 
>> familiar with how Macs work.  I've had a few minutes to try OfoiceOver, but 
>> it was the little thing on the computer that shows you how to use voice over.
>> 
>> - Original Message -----
>> From: Teresa Cochran > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Date sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 15:26:39 -0700
>> Subject: Re: Hello
>> 
>> Hi, Jasmine,
>> 
>> Welcome to the list.  Well, your question opens a huge can of worms.  Where 
>> do you want to start? What do you want to do with your computer.  If you're 
>> used to using Windows, are there applications that you simply need to use in 
>> Windows? Keep in mind that you can use Windows on a Mac with some frequency 
>> once you set it up.  The Mac is extremely accessible, but also extremely 
>> different from Windows, and involves quite a learning curve.  If you're up 
>> for an adventure in learning a new screen-reader and operating system, then 
>> you'll have fun switching.  I pretty much jumped right in, with the help of 
>> a book, from OReilly media, Switching to the Mac.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
>> 
>> On Nov 1, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Listers,
>> 
>> My name is Jasmine, and I am extremely new to the list.
>> I was wondering if anyone could please tell me what differences they find in 
>> the Mac computers vs Windows computers? I'm trying to figure out which type 
>> of computer I would like to get next.
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Jasmine
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Re: Hello

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Jasmine!
At the bottom of these message's is some links!
Sit on the more options one and open vo+shift+m and select open link!
That should take you to the place to find out!
[That's assuming ] your using a Mac!
But that link will take you there!
hth Colin

On 1 Nov 2011, at 23:51, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

> Hi,
> Where can I find archives that you mentioned?
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Red.Falcon"  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:40:43 +
> Subject: Re: Hello
> 
> Hi Jasmine!
> Three options for word processing are
> Pages, Open office and Nisus Writer pro!
> And of course you will have text edit on your Mac!
> If you can look in the archives for word processors you should find info 
> about them there!
> hth Colin
> 
> On 1 Nov 2011, at 23:12, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Red.Falcon"  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 22:46:00 +
> Subject: Re: Hello
> 
> Hi Jasmine!
> Welcome!
> OK do not let anyone sell you windows office for Mac!
> It is not accessible with vo!
> So save your money [or there's] :]
> hth Colin
> 
> On 1 Nov 2011, at 22:34, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Well, I'm going to college, and I would need to do a lot of word processing 
> on my computer.  I want a computer that will last long and not get viruses.  
> I don't mind the learning curve, because I love a challenge.  I just need a 
> computer that will do at least most of what Windows can do.  I'm not familiar 
> with how Macs work.  I've had a few minutes to try Of voiceOver, but it was 
> the little thing on the computer that shows you how to use voice over.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Teresa Cochran  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 15:26:39 -0700
> Subject: Re: Hello
> 
> Hi, Jasmine,
> 
> Welcome to the list.  Well, your question opens a huge can of worms.  Where 
> do you want to start? What do you want to do with your computer.  If you're 
> used to using Windows, are there applications that you simply need to use in 
> Windows? Keep in mind that you can use Windows on a Mac with some frequency 
> once you set it up.  The Mac is extremely accessible, but also extremely 
> different from Windows, and involves quite a learning curve.  If you're up 
> for an adventure in learning a new screen-reader and operating system, then 
> you'll have fun switching.  I pretty much jumped right in, with the help of a 
> book, from OReilly media, Switching to the Mac.
> 
> Take care,
> Teresa
> 
> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
> 
> On Nov 1, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:
> 
> Dear Listers,
> 
> My name is Jasmine, and I am extremely new to the list.
> I was wondering if anyone could please tell me what differences they find in 
> the Mac computers vs Windows computers? I'm trying to figure out which type 
> of computer I would like to get next.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jasmine
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Re: Hello

[Jennifer Perdue]

Hi,

I can't answer most of your questions as I am a novice at the mac myself, but I 
will tell you that you will like it once you get the hang of it.  

The only thing I really know how to do is some e-mail and some safari stuff.  I 
wish you the best and I hope you like it as much as I do.

Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

> Hi,
> Well, I'm going to college, and I would need to do a lot of wordprocessing on 
> my computer.  I want a computer that will last long and not get viruses.  I 
> don't mind the learning curve, because I love a challenge.  I just need a 
> computer that will do at least most of what Windows can do.  I'm not familiar 
> with how Macs work.  I've had a few minutes to try OfoiceOver, but it was the 
> little thing on the computer that shows you how to use voice over.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Teresa Cochran  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 15:26:39 -0700
> Subject: Re: Hello
> 
> Hi, Jasmine,
> 
> Welcome to the list.  Well, your question opens a huge can of worms.  Where 
> do you want to start? What do you want to do with your computer.  If you're 
> used to using Windows, are there applications that you simply need to use in 
> Windows? Keep in mind that you can use Windows on a Mac with some frequency 
> once you set it up.  The Mac is extremely accessible, but also extremely 
> different from Windows, and involves quite a learning curve.  If you're up 
> for an adventure in learning a new screen-reader and operating system, then 
> you'll have fun switching.  I pretty much jumped right in, with the help of a 
> book, from OReilly media, Switching to the Mac.
> 
> Take care,
> Teresa
> 
> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
> 
> On Nov 1, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:
> 
> Dear Listers,
> 
> My name is Jasmine, and I am extremely new to the list.
> I was wondering if anyone could please tell me what differences they find in 
> the Mac computers vs Windows computers? I'm trying to figure out which type 
> of computer I would like to get next.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jasmine
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Re: Hello

[Jasmine Kotsay]

Hi,
Where can I find archives that you mentioned?


- Original Message -
From: "Red.Falcon" If you can look in the archives for word processors you should 
find info about them there!

hth Colin

On 1 Nov 2011, at 23:12, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

Thank you!

- Original Message -
From: "Red.Falcon" Well, I'm going to college, and I would need to do a lot of word 
processing on my computer.  I want a computer that will last long 
and not get viruses.  I don't mind the learning curve, because I 
love a challenge.  I just need a computer that will do at least 
most of what Windows can do.  I'm not familiar with how Macs 
work.  I've had a few minutes to try Of voiceOver, but it was the 
little thing on the computer that shows you how to use voice 
over.


- Original Message -
From: Teresa Cochran Welcome to the list.  Well, your question opens a huge can of 
worms.  Where do you want to start? What do you want to do with 
your computer.  If you're used to using Windows, are there 
applications that you simply need to use in Windows? Keep in mind 
that you can use Windows on a Mac with some frequency once you 
set it up.  The Mac is extremely accessible, but also extremely 
different from Windows, and involves quite a learning curve.  If 
you're up for an adventure in learning a new screen-reader and 
operating system, then you'll have fun switching.  I pretty much 
jumped right in, with the help of a book, from OReilly media, 
Switching to the Mac.


Take care,
Teresa

"Slow down; you'll get there faster."

On Nov 1, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

Dear Listers,

My name is Jasmine, and I am extremely new to the list.
I was wondering if anyone could please tell me what differences 
they find in the Mac computers vs Windows computers? I'm trying 
to figure out which type of computer I would like to get next.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Sincerely,
Jasmine

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Re: Hello

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Jasmine!
Three options for word processing are
Pages, Open office and Nisus Writer pro!
And of course you will have text edit on your Mac!
If you can look in the archives for word processors you should find info about 
them there!
hth Colin

On 1 Nov 2011, at 23:12, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

> Thank you!
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Red.Falcon"  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 22:46:00 +
> Subject: Re: Hello
> 
> Hi Jasmine!
> Welcome!
> OK do not let anyone sell you windows office for Mac!
> It is not accessible with vo!
> So save your money [or there's] :]
> hth Colin
> 
> On 1 Nov 2011, at 22:34, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Well, I'm going to college, and I would need to do a lot of word processing 
> on my computer.  I want a computer that will last long and not get viruses.  
> I don't mind the learning curve, because I love a challenge.  I just need a 
> computer that will do at least most of what Windows can do.  I'm not familiar 
> with how Macs work.  I've had a few minutes to try Of voiceOver, but it was 
> the little thing on the computer that shows you how to use voice over.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Teresa Cochran  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 15:26:39 -0700
> Subject: Re: Hello
> 
> Hi, Jasmine,
> 
> Welcome to the list.  Well, your question opens a huge can of worms.  Where 
> do you want to start? What do you want to do with your computer.  If you're 
> used to using Windows, are there applications that you simply need to use in 
> Windows? Keep in mind that you can use Windows on a Mac with some frequency 
> once you set it up.  The Mac is extremely accessible, but also extremely 
> different from Windows, and involves quite a learning curve.  If you're up 
> for an adventure in learning a new screen-reader and operating system, then 
> you'll have fun switching.  I pretty much jumped right in, with the help of a 
> book, from OReilly media, Switching to the Mac.
> 
> Take care,
> Teresa
> 
> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
> 
> On Nov 1, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:
> 
> Dear Listers,
> 
> My name is Jasmine, and I am extremely new to the list.
> I was wondering if anyone could please tell me what differences they find in 
> the Mac computers vs Windows computers? I'm trying to figure out which type 
> of computer I would like to get next.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
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Re: Hello

[Jasmine Kotsay]

Thank you!

- Original Message -
From: "Red.Falcon" Well, I'm going to college, and I would need to do a lot of 
wordprocessing on my computer.  I want a computer that will last 
long and not get viruses.  I don't mind the learning curve, 
because I love a challenge.  I just need a computer that will do 
at least most of what Windows can do.  I'm not familiar with how 
Macs work.  I've had a few minutes to try OfoiceOver, but it was 
the little thing on the computer that shows you how to use voice 
over.


- Original Message -
From: Teresa Cochran Welcome to the list.  Well, your question opens a huge can of 
worms.  Where do you want to start? What do you want to do with 
your computer.  If you're used to using Windows, are there 
applications that you simply need to use in Windows? Keep in mind 
that you can use Windows on a Mac with some frequency once you 
set it up.  The Mac is extremely accessible, but also extremely 
different from Windows, and involves quite a learning curve.  If 
you're up for an adventure in learning a new screen-reader and 
operating system, then you'll have fun switching.  I pretty much 
jumped right in, with the help of a book, from OReilly media, 
Switching to the Mac.


Take care,
Teresa

"Slow down; you'll get there faster."

On Nov 1, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

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My name is Jasmine, and I am extremely new to the list.
I was wondering if anyone could please tell me what differences 
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Re: Hello

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Jasmine!
Welcome!
OK do not let anyone sell you windows office for Mac!
It is not accessible with vo!
So save your money [or there's] :]
hth Colin

On 1 Nov 2011, at 22:34, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

> Hi,
> Well, I'm going to college, and I would need to do a lot of wordprocessing on 
> my computer.  I want a computer that will last long and not get viruses.  I 
> don't mind the learning curve, because I love a challenge.  I just need a 
> computer that will do at least most of what Windows can do.  I'm not familiar 
> with how Macs work.  I've had a few minutes to try OfoiceOver, but it was the 
> little thing on the computer that shows you how to use voice over.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Teresa Cochran  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 15:26:39 -0700
> Subject: Re: Hello
> 
> Hi, Jasmine,
> 
> Welcome to the list.  Well, your question opens a huge can of worms.  Where 
> do you want to start? What do you want to do with your computer.  If you're 
> used to using Windows, are there applications that you simply need to use in 
> Windows? Keep in mind that you can use Windows on a Mac with some frequency 
> once you set it up.  The Mac is extremely accessible, but also extremely 
> different from Windows, and involves quite a learning curve.  If you're up 
> for an adventure in learning a new screen-reader and operating system, then 
> you'll have fun switching.  I pretty much jumped right in, with the help of a 
> book, from OReilly media, Switching to the Mac.
> 
> Take care,
> Teresa
> 
> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
> 
> On Nov 1, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:
> 
> Dear Listers,
> 
> My name is Jasmine, and I am extremely new to the list.
> I was wondering if anyone could please tell me what differences they find in 
> the Mac computers vs Windows computers? I'm trying to figure out which type 
> of computer I would like to get next.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jasmine
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Re: Hello

[Jasmine Kotsay]

Hi,
Well, I'm going to college, and I would need to do a lot of 
wordprocessing on my computer.  I want a computer that will last 
long and not get viruses.  I don't mind the learning curve, 
because I love a challenge.  I just need a computer that will do 
at least most of what Windows can do.  I'm not familiar with how 
Macs work.  I've had a few minutes to try OfoiceOver, but it was 
the little thing on the computer that shows you how to use voice 
over.


- Original Message -
From: Teresa Cochran Welcome to the list.  Well, your question opens a huge can of 
worms.  Where do you want to start? What do you want to do with 
your computer.  If you're used to using Windows, are there 
applications that you simply need to use in Windows? Keep in mind 
that you can use Windows on a Mac with some frequency once you 
set it up.  The Mac is extremely accessible, but also extremely 
different from Windows, and involves quite a learning curve.  If 
you're up for an adventure in learning a new screen-reader and 
operating system, then you'll have fun switching.  I pretty much 
jumped right in, with the help of a book, from OReilly media, 
Switching to the Mac.


Take care,
Teresa

"Slow down; you'll get there faster."

On Nov 1, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

Dear Listers,

My name is Jasmine, and I am extremely new to the list.
I was wondering if anyone could please tell me what differences 
they find in the Mac computers vs Windows computers? I'm trying 
to figure out which type of computer I would like to get next.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Sincerely,
Jasmine

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Re: Hello

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Jasmine,

Welcome to the list. Well, your question opens a huge can of worms. Where do 
you want to start? What do you want to do with your computer. If you're used to 
using Windows, are there applications that you simply need to use in Windows? 
Keep in mind that you can use Windows on a Mac with some frequency once you set 
it up. The Mac is extremely accessible, but also extremely different from 
Windows, and involves quite a learning curve. If you're up for an adventure in 
learning a new screen-reader and operating system, then you'll have fun 
switching. I pretty much jumped right in, with the help of a book, from OReilly 
media, Switching to the Mac.

Take care,
Teresa

"Slow down; you'll get there faster."

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> 
> My name is Jasmine, and I am extremely new to the list.
> I was wondering if anyone could please tell me what differences they find in 
> the Mac computers vs Windows computers? I'm trying to figure out which type 
> of computer I would like to get next.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jasmine
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Re: hello

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Banu. 
The first thing I told myself when I started on the Mac was that I would 
probably have some bad moments. Indeed, I did. Like the time I accidentally 
copied 50 folders to my husband's computer. That was before I knew about 
command-z which erases what you just did. 

I don't know what services are available in your country. Here Apple offers 
One-to-one training. I was lucky to get a person who liked to use computers on 
his day off. You said your brother helped you. This person that helped me on 
purpose blindfolded himself and worked with VoiceOver on his computer. Since he 
is a long-time Mac user, he was able to figure out things and show some to me. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

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> hello
> thanks for the replies.
> I have some questions. could you please answer them urgently? Because
> I've been in front  of the computer all day and I fed up.
> firstly where is the voice over settings stuff. I opened  activity
> chooser and hear" voice over settings current" but how to open it.
> secondly I set my email account butstill don't know how to read my
> emails and all the stuff. is there any source to read or watch that
> tells step by step all the details about mac.
> I think the main problem is I don't understand the logic of using
> mac.
> please help me. I'm really tired.
> thanks in advance
> banu
> 
> Eugenia Firth wrote:
>> Hi Banu.
>> Just type command and the f5 key together. That surns it on and off.
>> 
>> Gigi
>> 
>> On Sep 27, 2011, at 9:25 AM, banu.bc wrote:
>> 
>>> hi there
>>> I've just bought mac book pro. how can I  activate voice over??
>>> regards
>>> banu
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Re: hello

[banu.bc]

hello
thanks for the replies.
I have some questions. could you please answer them urgently? Because
I've been in front  of the computer all day and I fed up.
firstly where is the voice over settings stuff. I opened  activity
chooser and hear" voice over settings current" but how to open it.
secondly I set my email account butstill don't know how to read my
emails and all the stuff. is there any source to read or watch that
tells step by step all the details about mac.
I think the main problem is I don't understand the logic of using
mac.
please help me. I'm really tired.
thanks in advance
banu

Eugenia Firth wrote:
> Hi Banu.
> Just type command and the f5 key together. That surns it on and off.
>
> Gigi
>
> On Sep 27, 2011, at 9:25 AM, banu.bc wrote:
>
> > hi there
> > I've just bought mac book pro. how can I  activate voice over??
> > regards
> > banu
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Re: hello

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Banu. 
Just type command and the f5 key together. That surns it on and off. 

Gigi 

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> hi there
> I've just bought mac book pro. how can I  activate voice over??
> regards
> banu
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Re: hello

[Chris Blouch]

Command F5

CB

On 9/27/11 10:25 AM, banu.bc wrote:

hi there
I've just bought mac book pro. how can I  activate voice over??
regards
banu



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RE: Hello from a new MBP owner.

[M. Taylor]

Hello John and Welcome Aboard:

 

My name is Mark.  

 

Here are two resources that will help answer your questions about Mail:

 

1.

I just published a 9 minute podcast on how I use the Mail client in Lion.  

  Click
Here to Listen.

 

2.

I strongly suggest that you read the VoiceOver Getting Started User Guide:  

 
Click Here to View.

 

Mark

 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Chilelli
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:27 PM
To: MacVisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hello from a new MBP owner.

 

Well I'm a new MBP owner with lots to learn!  Using the mail program in
Lion..  Can someone please send me a  short list of VO commands for making
it easier to navigate in mail to open, close single and threaded messages,
or moving messages to mailboxes for saving and future reference?

 

Thank you folks much,

 

Johnny Chilelli

Erie, PA  

 

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Re: Hello from a new member.

[CJ Daniel]

Hey Ben,

Welcome aboard & congrats on the new Mac.  I'm just south of you in a planned 
community, outside of Tucson, called Rancho Sahuarita.  I, truly, love 
Scottsdale & a restaurant there called Banderas.  Anyway, again, welcome & good 
luck with the new machine.

Your brother, in Christ,

CJ


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> 
> My name is Ben J Bloomgren. I'm from Scottsdale, Arizona. I'm extremely new
> to the Mac world, but tomorrow, more than likely, I'll be receiving from
> Fedex Ground my very own white 13-inch stock MacBook! I've been working with
> Chris Gilland's system, and I'm loving what I'm seeing! I hope to very soon
> be able actually to give suggestions to yall as well as to ask for help.
> 
> Sincerely in Christ,
> 
> Ben J. Bloomgren
> 
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> 
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Re: Hello from a new member.

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hi,
It means Night Owl in Japanese.
HTH,
Jeffrey
On Jun 14, 2011, at 8:21 PM, Ben J. Bloomgren wrote:

> Ezzie and all,
> 
> I'm so glad that you all have already written me for to welcome me. I've
> been working quite substantially with Chris's Mac, and I'm quite far along
> already. I've been using YoruFukurou, and I love it! By the way, what on
> earth does that name mean? It smacks of Africa, but that's not the point.
> Even Skype and the Sendspace wizard are available for use!
> 
> There are a lot of people that I wouldn't suspect, including you, Ez!
> 
> Again, this welcome amazes me.
> 
> Ben
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ezzie Buenito
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 16:31
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Hello from a new member.
> 
> hi Ben,
> 
> Welcome to the list! I've had my Mac for almost 8 months and am 
> loving it so far. You'll learn a lot from the basics to the right 
> apps for social networks--such as Twitter.
> 
> Ezzie
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Gary Readfern-Gray  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:22:44 +0100
> Subject: Re: Hello from a new member.
> 
> Hi Ben,
> 
> welcome to the list and to the world of all things Mac. I've had 
> my mac for around 18 months now and have learned a ton of stuff 
> from the list so you're in the right place.
> 
> In Christ
> Gazza
> On 14 Jun 2011, at 20:54, Ben J. Bloomgren wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> My name is Ben J Bloomgren. I'm from Scottsdale, Arizona. I'm 
> extremely new
> to the Mac world, but tomorrow, more than likely, I'll be 
> receiving from
> Fedex Ground my very own white 13-inch stock MacBook! I've been 
> working with
> Chris Gilland's system, and I'm loving what I'm seeing! I hope 
> to very soon
> be able actually to give suggestions to yall as well as to ask 
> for help.
> 
> Sincerely in Christ,
> 
> Ben J. Bloomgren
> 
> Skype, AIM and Twitter:  BlindBirder
> 
> MSN:  godsq...@cox.net and ben.j.bloomg...@gmail.com
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Re: Hello from a new member.

[Shameless FanGirl]

Hi there,

I've had my macbook Pro for approximately six weeks, and am every bit as in 
love with the switch now, as I was the day I first discovered it. Don't get me 
wrong, you'll have frustrations, etc, but that comes of any new undertaking. 
Rock on, and a huge welcome to the community from me. Everyone here has been 
excellent resources, so you're definitely amid much support. 

Again, welcome aboard. :)
On Jun 14, 2011, at 8:21 PM, Ben J. Bloomgren wrote:

> Ezzie and all,
> 
> I'm so glad that you all have already written me for to welcome me. I've
> been working quite substantially with Chris's Mac, and I'm quite far along
> already. I've been using YoruFukurou, and I love it! By the way, what on
> earth does that name mean? It smacks of Africa, but that's not the point.
> Even Skype and the Sendspace wizard are available for use!
> 
> There are a lot of people that I wouldn't suspect, including you, Ez!
> 
> Again, this welcome amazes me.
> 
> Ben
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ezzie Buenito
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 16:31
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Hello from a new member.
> 
> hi Ben,
> 
> Welcome to the list! I've had my Mac for almost 8 months and am 
> loving it so far. You'll learn a lot from the basics to the right 
> apps for social networks--such as Twitter.
> 
> Ezzie
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Gary Readfern-Gray  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:22:44 +0100
> Subject: Re: Hello from a new member.
> 
> Hi Ben,
> 
> welcome to the list and to the world of all things Mac. I've had 
> my mac for around 18 months now and have learned a ton of stuff 
> from the list so you're in the right place.
> 
> In Christ
> Gazza
> On 14 Jun 2011, at 20:54, Ben J. Bloomgren wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> My name is Ben J Bloomgren. I'm from Scottsdale, Arizona. I'm 
> extremely new
> to the Mac world, but tomorrow, more than likely, I'll be 
> receiving from
> Fedex Ground my very own white 13-inch stock MacBook! I've been 
> working with
> Chris Gilland's system, and I'm loving what I'm seeing! I hope 
> to very soon
> be able actually to give suggestions to yall as well as to ask 
> for help.
> 
> Sincerely in Christ,
> 
> Ben J. Bloomgren
> 
> Skype, AIM and Twitter:  BlindBirder
> 
> MSN:  godsq...@cox.net and ben.j.bloomg...@gmail.com
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RE: Hello from a new member.

[Ben J. Bloomgren]

Ezzie and all,

I'm so glad that you all have already written me for to welcome me. I've
been working quite substantially with Chris's Mac, and I'm quite far along
already. I've been using YoruFukurou, and I love it! By the way, what on
earth does that name mean? It smacks of Africa, but that's not the point.
Even Skype and the Sendspace wizard are available for use!

There are a lot of people that I wouldn't suspect, including you, Ez!

Again, this welcome amazes me.

Ben

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ezzie Buenito
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 16:31
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hello from a new member.

hi Ben,

Welcome to the list! I've had my Mac for almost 8 months and am 
loving it so far. You'll learn a lot from the basics to the right 
apps for social networks--such as Twitter.

Ezzie


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Re: Hello from a new member.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I am just so happy that you're branching out and willing to give the mac as 
much of a chance as you are.  As you've seen playing with my system, Ben, 
you will not! regret this decision of your's, and trust me, all of us will 
be more! than happy, including myself, to help you along the journey.  We 
all learn together, but that's what makes the mac community so fun and so 
rewarding!


Be well.

Chris, AKA: Mark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ben J. Bloomgren" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:54 PM
Subject: Hello from a new member.



Hello all,

My name is Ben J Bloomgren. I'm from Scottsdale, Arizona. I'm extremely 
new

to the Mac world, but tomorrow, more than likely, I'll be receiving from
Fedex Ground my very own white 13-inch stock MacBook! I've been working 
with
Chris Gilland's system, and I'm loving what I'm seeing! I hope to very 
soon

be able actually to give suggestions to yall as well as to ask for help.

Sincerely in Christ,

Ben J. Bloomgren

Skype, AIM and Twitter:  BlindBirder

MSN:  godsq...@cox.net and ben.j.bloomg...@gmail.com

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Re: Hello from a new member.

[matthew Dyer on Mac Mini]

Hello.

Welcome to the mac world.  I have had my mac for over 2 years and I am loving 
it so much.  I am very pleased at how stable mac os really is.  I learn new 
things every day and I know you are going to love it when you receive yours.  
Good luck.

Matthew


On Jun 14, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Ezzie Buenito wrote:

> hi Ben,
> 
> Welcome to the list! I've had my Mac for almost 8 months and am loving it so 
> far. You'll learn a lot from the basics to the right apps for social 
> networks--such as Twitter.
> 
> Ezzie
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Gary Readfern-Gray  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:22:44 +0100
> Subject: Re: Hello from a new member.
> 
> Hi Ben,
> 
> welcome to the list and to the world of all things Mac. I've had my mac for 
> around 18 months now and have learned a ton of stuff from the list so you're 
> in the right place.
> 
> In Christ
> Gazza
> On 14 Jun 2011, at 20:54, Ben J. Bloomgren wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> My name is Ben J Bloomgren. I'm from Scottsdale, Arizona. I'm extremely new
> to the Mac world, but tomorrow, more than likely, I'll be receiving from
> Fedex Ground my very own white 13-inch stock MacBook! I've been working with
> Chris Gilland's system, and I'm loving what I'm seeing! I hope to very soon
> be able actually to give suggestions to yall as well as to ask for help.
> 
> Sincerely in Christ,
> 
> Ben J. Bloomgren
> 
> Skype, AIM and Twitter:  BlindBirder
> 
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Re: Hello from a new member.

[Ezzie Buenito]

hi Ben,

Welcome to the list! I've had my Mac for almost 8 months and am 
loving it so far. You'll learn a lot from the basics to the right 
apps for social networks--such as Twitter.


Ezzie


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From: Gary Readfern-Gray welcome to the list and to the world of all things Mac. I've had 
my mac for around 18 months now and have learned a ton of stuff 
from the list so you're in the right place.


In Christ
Gazza
On 14 Jun 2011, at 20:54, Ben J. Bloomgren wrote:

Hello all,

My name is Ben J Bloomgren. I'm from Scottsdale, Arizona. I'm 
extremely new
to the Mac world, but tomorrow, more than likely, I'll be 
receiving from
Fedex Ground my very own white 13-inch stock MacBook! I've been 
working with
Chris Gilland's system, and I'm loving what I'm seeing! I hope 
to very soon
be able actually to give suggestions to yall as well as to ask 
for help.


Sincerely in Christ,

Ben J. Bloomgren

Skype, AIM and Twitter:  BlindBirder

MSN:  godsq...@cox.net and ben.j.bloomg...@gmail.com

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Re: Hello from a new member.

[Gary Readfern-Gray]

Hi Ben,

welcome to the list and to the world of all things Mac. I've had my mac for 
around 18 months now and have learned a ton of stuff from the list so you're in 
the right place.

In Christ
Gazza
On 14 Jun 2011, at 20:54, Ben J. Bloomgren wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> My name is Ben J Bloomgren. I'm from Scottsdale, Arizona. I'm extremely new
> to the Mac world, but tomorrow, more than likely, I'll be receiving from
> Fedex Ground my very own white 13-inch stock MacBook! I've been working with
> Chris Gilland's system, and I'm loving what I'm seeing! I hope to very soon
> be able actually to give suggestions to yall as well as to ask for help.
> 
> Sincerely in Christ,
> 
> Ben J. Bloomgren
> 
> Skype, AIM and Twitter:  BlindBirder
> 
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Re: hello list

[tim]

Nice to see your still around, and welcome to the land of mac.
Your  old friend Trouble.
On Mar 13, 2010, at 10:27 PM, clarence griffin wrote:

> Hey there. I would just like to introduce my self. My name is Clarence. I go 
> by GF or Goldfingas on the web though. I am new to the mac world, and am 
> loving it so far. I have an iPhone 3gs and a MacBook Pro. I am a musician so 
> will be using protools on the mac. I pretty much use this mac for everything 
> now, mail, twitter, instant messages, and more. I am looking forward to 
> learning more about this thing and what I can get out of it. 
> Thanks for having me and I hope I can help as well.
> Peace out for now.
> 
> GF
> 
> Goldfinga Productions
> Phone: 757-412-5494
> Web: http://www.goldfingas.com
> Follow me on twitter
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Re: hello list

[clarence griffin]

well so far from all the nice welcomes, I am feeling very welcome. Thanks.
grin

GF

Goldfinga Productions
Phone: 757-412-5494

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On Mar 14, 2010, at 7:31 AM, James & Nash wrote:

> Hi GF,
> 
> Welcome to the list. Hopefuly youll find it useful. The folks on here are 
> realy nice. 
> 
> TC
> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
> On 14 Mar 2010, at 03:27, clarence griffin wrote:
> 
>> Hey there. I would just like to introduce my self. My name is Clarence. I go 
>> by GF or Goldfingas on the web though. I am new to the mac world, and am 
>> loving it so far. I have an iPhone 3gs and a MacBook Pro. I am a musician so 
>> will be using protools on the mac. I pretty much use this mac for everything 
>> now, mail, twitter, instant messages, and more. I am looking forward to 
>> learning more about this thing and what I can get out of it. 
>> Thanks for having me and I hope I can help as well.
>> Peace out for now.
>> 
>> GF
>> 
>> Goldfinga Productions
>> Phone: 757-412-5494
>> Web: http://www.goldfingas.com
>> Follow me on twitter
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>> Find me on facebook
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Re: hello list

[James & Nash]

Hi GF,

Welcome to the list. Hopefuly youll find it useful. The folks on here are realy 
nice. 

TC
James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
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> by GF or Goldfingas on the web though. I am new to the mac world, and am 
> loving it so far. I have an iPhone 3gs and a MacBook Pro. I am a musician so 
> will be using protools on the mac. I pretty much use this mac for everything 
> now, mail, twitter, instant messages, and more. I am looking forward to 
> learning more about this thing and what I can get out of it. 
> Thanks for having me and I hope I can help as well.
> Peace out for now.
> 
> GF
> 
> Goldfinga Productions
> Phone: 757-412-5494
> Web: http://www.goldfingas.com
> Follow me on twitter
> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
> Find me on facebook
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Re: hello list

[clarence griffin]

Thanks may! lol

GF

Goldfinga Productions
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Follow me on twitter
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On Mar 13, 2010, at 10:44 PM, May McDonald wrote:

> Nice to see you on this list as well GF, smile.
> On 2010-03-13, at 7:27 PM, clarence griffin wrote:
> 
>> Hey there. I would just like to introduce my self. My name is Clarence. I go 
>> by GF or Goldfingas on the web though. I am new to the mac world, and am 
>> loving it so far. I have an iPhone 3gs and a MacBook Pro. I am a musician so 
>> will be using protools on the mac. I pretty much use this mac for everything 
>> now, mail, twitter, instant messages, and more. I am looking forward to 
>> learning more about this thing and what I can get out of it. 
>> Thanks for having me and I hope I can help as well.
>> Peace out for now.
>> 
>> GF
>> 
>> Goldfinga Productions
>> Phone: 757-412-5494
>> Web: http://www.goldfingas.com
>> Follow me on twitter
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>> Find me on facebook
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Re: hello list

[May McDonald]

Nice to see you on this list as well GF, smile.
On 2010-03-13, at 7:27 PM, clarence griffin wrote:

> Hey there. I would just like to introduce my self. My name is Clarence. I go 
> by GF or Goldfingas on the web though. I am new to the mac world, and am 
> loving it so far. I have an iPhone 3gs and a MacBook Pro. I am a musician so 
> will be using protools on the mac. I pretty much use this mac for everything 
> now, mail, twitter, instant messages, and more. I am looking forward to 
> learning more about this thing and what I can get out of it. 
> Thanks for having me and I hope I can help as well.
> Peace out for now.
> 
> GF
> 
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> Phone: 757-412-5494
> Web: http://www.goldfingas.com
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Re: hello

[Chantel Cuddemi]

I am receiving emails from the list. 
On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:26 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

> Hi List,
>  
>  I’m not receiving any email from here, I was just wondering if any traffic 
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Re: hello

[Joan Alice Maria Gibson, Esquire]

I'm getting lots of e-mail from MacVisionaries every day all day long.

JG

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Re: Hello from Jonathan Cohn / Virginia

[kaare dehard]

Hi, John, your postings are arriving on list. We generally don't see  
our own literary work unless it is replied to. Something to do with  
google groups as I understand things.
On 5-Jul-09, at 8:43 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

>
> Hello fellow Macintosh Users,
>
> I have sent 4 or 5 messages to Macvisionaries in reply to other
> peoples posts, and I have not seen them.
>
> I live in Northern Virginia, and have been using Macintoshes since
> the late 1980's. I have RP and have not needed full time voice until
> after Tiger came out. My current Macintosh is a e-Mac 17" running the
> latest Leopard and Safari.
>
> My goals over the next few weeks are:
>
> 1, Determine how jump mode works in VO.
> 2. Find better ways to read large e-mails.
> 3. Determine if it is just me that has issues with VO-F  working with
> Safari 4 and  HTML e-mail.
> 4. Find efficiencies in adding members to address book.
> 5. Get my Windows smart phone reloaded with the CodeFactory  software
> and sync address book and calendar.
> 6 Get automatic  move of NewsLine newspapers from e-mail  to Victor
> reader.
>
> JOn
>
>
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Re: Hello

[Jessi and Goldina]

hey Chris,
glad to hear you're enjoying your mac!! you're in the right place for  
finding out information. ask away and we'll be happy to answer!!!  
happy voiceover using lol!!
On 4-Jul-09, at 12:04 PM, Chris G wrote:

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> Hello,
> I am a new member to this list and Hope to learn a lot about my Mac.
>
> I bought  a Mac mini in the beginning of June and really like it.
>
> Thanks
> Chris
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Re: Hello

[Mike Reiser]

Welcome Chris,

Enjoy your mac.  I certainly don't regret mine and have had it for a  
month or so.  I have a mac mini as well.

Mike
On Jul 4, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Barry Lipscomb wrote:

>
> Welcome Chris!  I am new to this group also.  I am glad you are
> enjoying your MAc.
>
> Barry
>
> On Jul 4, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Chris G wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>> I am a new member to this list and Hope to learn a lot about my Mac.
>>
>> I bought  a Mac mini in the beginning of June and really like it.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Chris
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>>>
>>
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Re: Hello

[Chris Gilland]

Chris G not to be mistaken for myself, let me just clear that up before 
confusion starts.  LOL!  We're two totally different members.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Barry Lipscomb" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Hello


>
> Welcome Chris!  I am new to this group also.  I am glad you are
> enjoying your MAc.
>
> Barry
>
> On Jul 4, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Chris G wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>> I am a new member to this list and Hope to learn a lot about my Mac.
>>
>> I bought  a Mac mini in the beginning of June and really like it.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Chris
>>
>> -- 
>> Chris G 
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>
> Barry Lipscomb
> the...@misteraudiofreak.com
>
>
>
>
> > 


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Re: Hello

[Simon Cavendish]

Welcome Chris, You are going to have a wonderful time with your Mac.  
Welcome into the list. The people here on the list have been a  
wonderful source of support and help to me ever since I switched to a  
Mac computer in December 207.

Best wishes

Simon
On 4 Jul 2009, at 20:49, Barry Lipscomb wrote:

>
> Welcome Chris!  I am new to this group also.  I am glad you are
> enjoying your MAc.
>
> Barry
>
> On Jul 4, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Chris G wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>> I am a new member to this list and Hope to learn a lot about my Mac.
>>
>> I bought  a Mac mini in the beginning of June and really like it.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Chris
>>
>> -- 
>> Chris G 
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
> Barry Lipscomb
> the...@misteraudiofreak.com
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Re: Hello

[patrickneazer]

Hello Chris:

Welcome to the list. So glad you are here. You will learn plenty here  
both about the mac and what you can do with it.

The people on this list are both friendly and helpful so if you have  
any questions ... ask away no matter how silly you think the question  
might be. A silly question is a question that the guy or gal next to  
you wants to ask as well but does not do it (smile).

Again, welcome.
On Jul 4, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Chris G wrote:

>
> Hello,
> I am a new member to this list and Hope to learn a lot about my Mac.
>
> I bought  a Mac mini in the beginning of June and really like it.
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>
> -- 
> Chris G 
>
>
> >

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Love

Me


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Re: Hello

[Scott Howell]

Welcome to the list Chris and glad to hear you are enjoying the Mac  
Mini. I've been using a Mac for oh something like five years now and  
can't imagine using anything else. You'll learn a lot here for sure.
On Jul 4, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Chris G wrote:

>
> Hello,
> I am a new member to this list and Hope to learn a lot about my Mac.
>
> I bought  a Mac mini in the beginning of June and really like it.
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>
> -- 
> Chris G 
>
>
> >


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Re: Hello

[Barry Lipscomb]

Welcome Chris!  I am new to this group also.  I am glad you are  
enjoying your MAc.

Barry

On Jul 4, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Chris G wrote:

>
> Hello,
> I am a new member to this list and Hope to learn a lot about my Mac.
>
> I bought  a Mac mini in the beginning of June and really like it.
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>
> -- 
> Chris G 
>
>
> >
>

Barry Lipscomb
the...@misteraudiofreak.com




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