Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update
Hello, I’ve just done the update to 10.14.1 with no voice problems. I have four different languages set up on my MacBook Air with my system running in English. Fred is my preferred voice and that’s the one that was speaking after the update. I do not have automatic language switching selected as it’s more trouble than it’s worth. Cheers, Anne > On 9 Nov 2018, at 06:53, Michael Marshall wrote: > > hey all, > am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on > Mojave. > i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost and > the system reverts back to the australian voice. > i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as > attributes and typing back to alex. > all the pitch and speed settings are left alone. > it is extremely irritating. > has anyone else found this? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update
I also find Australian voices irritating, But that is just the kiwi way. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Michael Marshall Sent: Friday, 9 November 2018 6:53 PM To: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries Subject: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update hey all, am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on Mojave. i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost and the system reverts back to the australian voice. i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as attributes and typing back to alex. all the pitch and speed settings are left alone. it is extremely irritating. has anyone else found this? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update
Yes that is what I started doing when want to do a clean install. Too bad we don't have the export feature for Accessibility preferences. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 11/9/2018 5:14 PM, Michael Marshall wrote: thanks, will do that. Doing an export of my preferred settings and then importing them did the trick. You don't have to do that every time but if you have a backup saved of VO prefs before the current operating system, save everything again. Michael Marshall For Voice Over inquiries or to listen to my demos, please visit my Voice Realm profile. http://www.thevoicerealm.com/talent/Michael.Marshall On 10 Nov 2018, at 11:20 am, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote: Michael, next time this happens, export the VO settings and send that to Apple, it might help them find the source of the problem. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 11/9/2018 3:44 PM, Michael Marshall wrote: I will certainly try this but it really annoys me when Apple says they can't reproduce the problem. Michael Marshall For Voice Over inquiries or to listen to my demos, please visit my Voice Realm profile. http://www.thevoicerealm.com/talent/Michael.Marshall On 10 Nov 2018, at 9:16 am, Andrew Lamanche wrote: Yes, it’s a fix but it shouldn’t be happening. WE shouldn’t allow the slip in accessibility to take hold. So we need to continue to pressure Apple to preserve the accessibility we have won on Mac. platform. If we start trying to fix things ourselves, there won’t be much of an incentive for Apple to fix things either as I find with Greek voice. On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote: I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to the desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just activate that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do the export with VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: Yes and yes again. Very tedious indeed. On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall wrote: hey all, am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on Mojave. i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost and the system reverts back to the australian voice. i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as attributes and typing back to alex. all the pitch and speed settings are left alone. it is extremely irritating. has anyone else found this? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running
Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update
thanks, will do that. Doing an export of my preferred settings and then importing them did the trick. You don't have to do that every time but if you have a backup saved of VO prefs before the current operating system, save everything again. Michael Marshall For Voice Over inquiries or to listen to my demos, please visit my Voice Realm profile. http://www.thevoicerealm.com/talent/Michael.Marshall > On 10 Nov 2018, at 11:20 am, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Michael, next time this happens, export the VO settings and send that to > Apple, it might help them find the source of the problem. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > On 11/9/2018 3:44 PM, Michael Marshall wrote: >> I will certainly try this but it really annoys me when Apple says they can't >> reproduce the problem. >> Michael Marshall >> For Voice Over inquiries or to listen to my demos, please visit my Voice >> Realm profile. >> http://www.thevoicerealm.com/talent/Michael.Marshall >>> On 10 Nov 2018, at 9:16 am, Andrew Lamanche >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, it’s a fix but it shouldn’t be happening. WE shouldn’t allow the slip >>> in accessibility to take hold. So we need to continue to pressure Apple to >>> preserve the accessibility we have won on Mac. platform. If we start >>> trying to fix things ourselves, there won’t be much of an incentive for >>> Apple to fix things either as I find with Greek voice. On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote: I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to the desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just activate that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do the export with VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: > Yes and yes again. Very tedious indeed. >> On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall >> wrote: >> >> hey all, >> am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on >> Mojave. >> i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost >> and the system reverts back to the australian voice. >> i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as >> attributes and typing back to alex. >> all the pitch and speed settings are left alone. >> it is extremely irritating. >> has anyone else found this? >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, vis
Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update
Michael, next time this happens, export the VO settings and send that to Apple, it might help them find the source of the problem. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 11/9/2018 3:44 PM, Michael Marshall wrote: I will certainly try this but it really annoys me when Apple says they can't reproduce the problem. Michael Marshall For Voice Over inquiries or to listen to my demos, please visit my Voice Realm profile. http://www.thevoicerealm.com/talent/Michael.Marshall On 10 Nov 2018, at 9:16 am, Andrew Lamanche wrote: Yes, it’s a fix but it shouldn’t be happening. WE shouldn’t allow the slip in accessibility to take hold. So we need to continue to pressure Apple to preserve the accessibility we have won on Mac. platform. If we start trying to fix things ourselves, there won’t be much of an incentive for Apple to fix things either as I find with Greek voice. On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote: I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to the desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just activate that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do the export with VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: Yes and yes again. Very tedious indeed. On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall wrote: hey all, am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on Mojave. i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost and the system reverts back to the australian voice. i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as attributes and typing back to alex. all the pitch and speed settings are left alone. it is extremely irritating. has anyone else found this? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.co
Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update
i'm getting off the beta because of a very annoying problem. I have re-exported my VO settings witch i had not done in a wile. I will try the suggestion and let you all know the results. these new extra voice settings seem to be a new thing. Michael Marshall For Voice Over inquiries or to listen to my demos, please visit my Voice Realm profile. http://www.thevoicerealm.com/talent/Michael.Marshall > On 10 Nov 2018, at 9:41 am, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Understood but I disagree somewhat. Everything is always a work in > progress. So we find workarounds while at the same time, we keep after Apple. > > One issue never hear anyone complain about is how much Voiceover repeats > elements. One example might be Facetime. When you open it you will hear > Facetime Facetime window. Sure, easy fix, just hit control. But it should not > be standard practice. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > On 11/9/2018 2:16 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: >> Yes, it’s a fix but it shouldn’t be happening. WE shouldn’t allow the slip >> in accessibility to take hold. So we need to continue to pressure Apple to >> preserve the accessibility we have won on Mac. platform. If we start trying >> to fix things ourselves, there won’t be much of an incentive for Apple to >> fix things either as I find with Greek voice. >>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to >>> the desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just >>> activate that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do the >>> export with VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> Many believe that we have been visited >>> in the past. What if it were true? >>> >>> On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: Yes and yes again. Very tedious indeed. > On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall > wrote: > > hey all, > am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on > Mojave. > i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost > and the system reverts back to the australian voice. > i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as > attributes and typing back to alex. > all the pitch and speed settings are left alone. > it is extremely irritating. > has anyone else found this? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If yo
Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update
I agree with you about repetition of certain things. It can be very annoying. Michael Marshall For Voice Over inquiries or to listen to my demos, please visit my Voice Realm profile. http://www.thevoicerealm.com/talent/Michael.Marshall > On 10 Nov 2018, at 9:41 am, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Understood but I disagree somewhat. Everything is always a work in > progress. So we find workarounds while at the same time, we keep after Apple. > > One issue never hear anyone complain about is how much Voiceover repeats > elements. One example might be Facetime. When you open it you will hear > Facetime Facetime window. Sure, easy fix, just hit control. But it should not > be standard practice. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > On 11/9/2018 2:16 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: >> Yes, it’s a fix but it shouldn’t be happening. WE shouldn’t allow the slip >> in accessibility to take hold. So we need to continue to pressure Apple to >> preserve the accessibility we have won on Mac. platform. If we start trying >> to fix things ourselves, there won’t be much of an incentive for Apple to >> fix things either as I find with Greek voice. >>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to >>> the desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just >>> activate that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do the >>> export with VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> Many believe that we have been visited >>> in the past. What if it were true? >>> >>> On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: Yes and yes again. Very tedious indeed. > On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall > wrote: > > hey all, > am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on > Mojave. > i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost > and the system reverts back to the australian voice. > i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as > attributes and typing back to alex. > all the pitch and speed settings are left alone. > it is extremely irritating. > has anyone else found this? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators
Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update
I will certainly try this but it really annoys me when Apple says they can't reproduce the problem. Michael Marshall For Voice Over inquiries or to listen to my demos, please visit my Voice Realm profile. http://www.thevoicerealm.com/talent/Michael.Marshall > On 10 Nov 2018, at 9:16 am, Andrew Lamanche wrote: > > Yes, it’s a fix but it shouldn’t be happening. WE shouldn’t allow the slip > in accessibility to take hold. So we need to continue to pressure Apple to > preserve the accessibility we have won on Mac. platform. If we start trying > to fix things ourselves, there won’t be much of an incentive for Apple to fix > things either as I find with Greek voice. >> On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to >> the desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just >> activate that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do the >> export with VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> Many believe that we have been visited >> in the past. What if it were true? >> >> On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: >>> Yes and yes again. Very tedious indeed. On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall wrote: hey all, am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on Mojave. i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost and the system reverts back to the australian voice. i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as attributes and typing back to alex. all the pitch and speed settings are left alone. it is extremely irritating. has anyone else found this? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit thi
Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update
Understood but I disagree somewhat. Everything is always a work in progress. So we find workarounds while at the same time, we keep after Apple. One issue never hear anyone complain about is how much Voiceover repeats elements. One example might be Facetime. When you open it you will hear Facetime Facetime window. Sure, easy fix, just hit control. But it should not be standard practice. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 11/9/2018 2:16 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: Yes, it’s a fix but it shouldn’t be happening. WE shouldn’t allow the slip in accessibility to take hold. So we need to continue to pressure Apple to preserve the accessibility we have won on Mac. platform. If we start trying to fix things ourselves, there won’t be much of an incentive for Apple to fix things either as I find with Greek voice. On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote: I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to the desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just activate that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do the export with VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: Yes and yes again. Very tedious indeed. On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall wrote: hey all, am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on Mojave. i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost and the system reverts back to the australian voice. i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as attributes and typing back to alex. all the pitch and speed settings are left alone. it is extremely irritating. has anyone else found this? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options,
Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update
Yes, it’s a fix but it shouldn’t be happening. WE shouldn’t allow the slip in accessibility to take hold. So we need to continue to pressure Apple to preserve the accessibility we have won on Mac. platform. If we start trying to fix things ourselves, there won’t be much of an incentive for Apple to fix things either as I find with Greek voice. > On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to > the desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just > activate that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do the > export with VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: >> Yes and yes again. Very tedious indeed. >>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall >>> wrote: >>> >>> hey all, >>> am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on >>> Mojave. >>> i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost and >>> the system reverts back to the australian voice. >>> i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as >>> attributes and typing back to alex. >>> all the pitch and speed settings are left alone. >>> it is extremely irritating. >>> has anyone else found this? >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update
I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to the desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just activate that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do the export with VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: Yes and yes again. Very tedious indeed. On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall wrote: hey all, am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on Mojave. i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost and the system reverts back to the australian voice. i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as attributes and typing back to alex. all the pitch and speed settings are left alone. it is extremely irritating. has anyone else found this? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update
Yes and yes again. Very tedious indeed. > On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall > wrote: > > hey all, > am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on > Mojave. > i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost and > the system reverts back to the australian voice. > i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as > attributes and typing back to alex. > all the pitch and speed settings are left alone. > it is extremely irritating. > has anyone else found this? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
