Re: Typing mode question
Hi Gigi. I think from what I've heard in the Diphone list, when direct typing is enabled, Voiceover won't wait until you lift your finger to type a character. I don't think I'll use it because I make a lot of mistakes. Lol. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook > On Sep 17, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > > Hi those that know > What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. > > Gigi > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Typing mode question
Hi, Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone else's explanation) to fully understand it. If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable vision, it might be great. Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly like it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your finger on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really wanted. For my part, touch typing still works great. Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: bu...@brannan.name > On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > > Hi those that know > What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. > > Gigi > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Typing mode question
Hi there Actually, this appears to work very similar to embryo. I was very fast with embryo, but I must be doing something wrong because I can't make the keyboard work with braille. Anybody who's tested this thing know what we might be doing wrong to make this thing work? For one thing, I think maybe that I'm not fast enough to calibrate my dots. I keep getting the opposite was that I want. For instance I want dots 456 to be on the right and that's 123 to be on the left, and I can't get in the backward. Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > > Hi, > > Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone > else's explanation) to fully understand it. > > If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable > vision, it might be great. > > Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a real > tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes contact to > when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly like it does for > sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your finger on a key, it > will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch typing enabled > instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really wanted. > > For my part, touch typing still works great. > > Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy. > > > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: 814-860-3194 > Mobile: 814-431-0962 > Email: bu...@brannan.name > > > >> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >> Hi those that know >> What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. >> >> Gigi >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Typing mode question
Buddy, so glad you're having trouble also with Fleksy. I thought I'd lost my mind. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Hi, > > Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone > else's explanation) to fully understand it. > > If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable > vision, it might be great. > > Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a real > tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes contact to > when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly like it does for > sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your finger on a key, it > will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch typing enabled > instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really wanted. > > For my part, touch typing still works great. > > Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy. > > > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: 814-860-3194 > Mobile: 814-431-0962 > Email: bu...@brannan.name > > > >> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >> Hi those that know >> What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. >> >> Gigi >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Typing mode question
You have to enable speech in Fleksy and turn off VO for Fleksy to work. It's awkward because it leaves you no way to switch to another keyboard or read anything while you type. On 9/17/14, Jenine Stanley wrote: > Buddy, so glad you're having trouble also with Fleksy. I thought I'd lost my > mind. > Jenine Stanley > dragonwalke...@gmail.com > > > > On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone >> else's explanation) to fully understand it. >> >> If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable >> vision, it might be great. >> >> Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a >> real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes >> contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly like >> it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your finger >> on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch >> typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really >> wanted. >> >> For my part, touch typing still works great. >> >> Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy. >> >> >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: 814-860-3194 >> Mobile: 814-431-0962 >> Email: bu...@brannan.name >> >> >> >>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>> >>> Hi those that know >>> What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. >>> >>> Gigi >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Typing mode question
Oh. Well. That kind of sucks. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: bu...@brannan.name > On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Deb Lewis wrote: > > You have to enable speech in Fleksy and turn off VO for Fleksy to > work. It's awkward because it leaves you no way to switch to another > keyboard or read anything while you type. > > > On 9/17/14, Jenine Stanley wrote: >> Buddy, so glad you're having trouble also with Fleksy. I thought I'd lost my >> mind. >> Jenine Stanley >> dragonwalke...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone >>> else's explanation) to fully understand it. >>> >>> If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable >>> vision, it might be great. >>> >>> Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a >>> real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes >>> contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly like >>> it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your finger >>> on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch >>> typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really >>> wanted. >>> >>> For my part, touch typing still works great. >>> >>> Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: 814-860-3194 >>> Mobile: 814-431-0962 >>> Email: bu...@brannan.name >>> >>> >>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi those that know What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Typing mode question
Sounds like the bug in Fleksy makes using it absolutely pointless isn't the whole idea of having it work in all apps so you do not have to toggle between apps to use it? Why in the world would I want to toggle VoiceOver on and off to use it. I usually upgrade right away but hearing about the dialing phone numbers, scrolling issues and clicking on things not working it really sounds quite awful and that Apple did for lack of a better phrase a piss poor job of VoiceOver in IOS 8, and please don't give me the we should expect bugs in a first release as I don't think Apple would release a version of IOS where sighted people couldn't dial phone numbers or properly scroll. Major disappointment. On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Oh. Well. That kind of sucks. > > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: 814-860-3194 > Mobile: 814-431-0962 > Email: bu...@brannan.name > > > >> On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Deb Lewis wrote: >> >> You have to enable speech in Fleksy and turn off VO for Fleksy to >> work. It's awkward because it leaves you no way to switch to another >> keyboard or read anything while you type. >> >> >> On 9/17/14, Jenine Stanley wrote: >>> Buddy, so glad you're having trouble also with Fleksy. I thought I'd lost my >>> mind. >>> Jenine Stanley >>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> Hi, Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone else's explanation) to fully understand it. If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable vision, it might be great. Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly like it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your finger on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really wanted. For my part, touch typing still works great. Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: bu...@brannan.name > On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > > Hi those that know > What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. > > Gigi > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subsc
Re: Typing mode question
>From what I've been told, the Flexy issues are caused because of a bug with >direct touch. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com On Sep 17, 2014, at 21:17, Brian Fischler wrote: > Sounds like the bug in Fleksy makes using it absolutely pointless isn't the > whole idea of having it work in all apps so you do not have to toggle between > apps to use it? Why in the world would I want to toggle VoiceOver on and off > to use it. I usually upgrade right away but hearing about the dialing phone > numbers, scrolling issues and clicking on things not working it really sounds > quite awful and that Apple did for lack of a better phrase a piss poor job of > VoiceOver in IOS 8, and please don't give me the we should expect bugs in a > first release as I don't think Apple would release a version of IOS where > sighted people couldn't dial phone numbers or properly scroll. Major > disappointment. > On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Oh. Well. That kind of sucks. >> >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: 814-860-3194 >> Mobile: 814-431-0962 >> Email: bu...@brannan.name >> >> >> >>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Deb Lewis wrote: >>> >>> You have to enable speech in Fleksy and turn off VO for Fleksy to >>> work. It's awkward because it leaves you no way to switch to another >>> keyboard or read anything while you type. >>> >>> >>> On 9/17/14, Jenine Stanley wrote: Buddy, so glad you're having trouble also with Fleksy. I thought I'd lost my mind. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Hi, > > Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone > else's explanation) to fully understand it. > > If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable > vision, it might be great. > > Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a > real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes > contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly like > it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your finger > on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch > typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really > wanted. > > For my part, touch typing still works great. > > Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy. > > > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: 814-860-3194 > Mobile: 814-431-0962 > Email: bu...@brannan.name > > > >> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >> Hi those that know >> What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. >> >> Gigi >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this mess
Re: Typing mode question
Just to add another perspective to this discussion, I sort of like direct touch typing. And I think it'll be very fast once one gets used to it, especially in combination with the predictive typing. Just my $.02, but I'm going to use it for a while and see how it goes. Cheers, Donna On Sep 17, 2014, at 8:52 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > From what I've been told, the Flexy issues are caused because of a bug with > direct touch. > Matt Dierckens > Macintosh Trainer > Blind Access Training > www.blindaccesstraining.com > 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 > Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com > Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com > > On Sep 17, 2014, at 21:17, Brian Fischler wrote: > >> Sounds like the bug in Fleksy makes using it absolutely pointless isn't the >> whole idea of having it work in all apps so you do not have to toggle >> between apps to use it? Why in the world would I want to toggle VoiceOver on >> and off to use it. I usually upgrade right away but hearing about the >> dialing phone numbers, scrolling issues and clicking on things not working >> it really sounds quite awful and that Apple did for lack of a better phrase >> a piss poor job of VoiceOver in IOS 8, and please don't give me the we >> should expect bugs in a first release as I don't think Apple would release a >> version of IOS where sighted people couldn't dial phone numbers or properly >> scroll. Major disappointment. >> On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >>> Oh. Well. That kind of sucks. >>> >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: 814-860-3194 >>> Mobile: 814-431-0962 >>> Email: bu...@brannan.name >>> >>> >>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Deb Lewis wrote: You have to enable speech in Fleksy and turn off VO for Fleksy to work. It's awkward because it leaves you no way to switch to another keyboard or read anything while you type. On 9/17/14, Jenine Stanley wrote: > Buddy, so glad you're having trouble also with Fleksy. I thought I'd lost > my > mind. > Jenine Stanley > dragonwalke...@gmail.com > > > > On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone >> else's explanation) to fully understand it. >> >> If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable >> vision, it might be great. >> >> Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a >> real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes >> contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly >> like >> it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your >> finger >> on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch >> typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really >> wanted. >> >> For my part, touch typing still works great. >> >> Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy. >> >> >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: 814-860-3194 >> Mobile: 814-431-0962 >> Email: bu...@brannan.name >> >> >> >>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>> >>> Hi those that know >>> What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. >>> >>> Gigi >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >
Re: Typing mode question
Just a comment regarding bugs, After running IOS 8 for a few hours now, I haven't encountered any bugs not even the phone dialling bug that people seem to be all up in arms about. On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:41 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Just to add another perspective to this discussion, I sort of like direct > touch typing. And I think it'll be very fast once one gets used to it, > especially in combination with the predictive typing. Just my $.02, but I'm > going to use it for a while and see how it goes. > Cheers, > Donna > On Sep 17, 2014, at 8:52 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > >> From what I've been told, the Flexy issues are caused because of a bug with >> direct touch. >> Matt Dierckens >> Macintosh Trainer >> Blind Access Training >> www.blindaccesstraining.com >> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 >> Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com >> Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com >> >> On Sep 17, 2014, at 21:17, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >>> Sounds like the bug in Fleksy makes using it absolutely pointless isn't the >>> whole idea of having it work in all apps so you do not have to toggle >>> between apps to use it? Why in the world would I want to toggle VoiceOver >>> on and off to use it. I usually upgrade right away but hearing about the >>> dialing phone numbers, scrolling issues and clicking on things not working >>> it really sounds quite awful and that Apple did for lack of a better phrase >>> a piss poor job of VoiceOver in IOS 8, and please don't give me the we >>> should expect bugs in a first release as I don't think Apple would release >>> a version of IOS where sighted people couldn't dial phone numbers or >>> properly scroll. Major disappointment. >>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> Oh. Well. That kind of sucks. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: bu...@brannan.name > On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Deb Lewis wrote: > > You have to enable speech in Fleksy and turn off VO for Fleksy to > work. It's awkward because it leaves you no way to switch to another > keyboard or read anything while you type. > > > On 9/17/14, Jenine Stanley wrote: >> Buddy, so glad you're having trouble also with Fleksy. I thought I'd >> lost my >> mind. >> Jenine Stanley >> dragonwalke...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone >>> else's explanation) to fully understand it. >>> >>> If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable >>> vision, it might be great. >>> >>> Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a >>> real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes >>> contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly >>> like >>> it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your >>> finger >>> on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch >>> typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really >>> wanted. >>> >>> For my part, touch typing still works great. >>> >>> Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: 814-860-3194 >>> Mobile: 814-431-0962 >>> Email: bu...@brannan.name >>> >>> >>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi those that know What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacV
Re: Typing mode question
Seems to be a hybrid of the two, so tap the right character and it is done. If you drag around like I do, you'll still have to tap it when you find it. I'll stick to touch typing I think. R. - Original Message - From: "Eugenia Firth" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:08 PM Subject: Typing mode question Hi those that know What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Typing mode question
Ok, we're on a different issue, direct typing and the braille are different things, all be they both set on the rotor. I also understand that you can't change the dots1-3 and 4-6 around, so many are trying to braille upside down. Rh. - Original Message - From: "Eugenia Firth" To: Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:12 AM Subject: Re: Typing mode question Hi there Actually, this appears to work very similar to embryo. I was very fast with embryo, but I must be doing something wrong because I can't make the keyboard work with braille. Anybody who's tested this thing know what we might be doing wrong to make this thing work? For one thing, I think maybe that I'm not fast enough to calibrate my dots. I keep getting the opposite was that I want. For instance I want dots 456 to be on the right and that's 123 to be on the left, and I can't get in the backward. Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > > Hi, > > Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone > else's explanation) to fully understand it. > > If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable > vision, it might be great. > > Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a > real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes > contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly like > it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your finger > on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch > typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really > wanted. > > For my part, touch typing still works great. > > Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy. > > > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: 814-860-3194 > Mobile: 814-431-0962 > Email: bu...@brannan.name > > > >> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >> Hi those that know >> What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. >> >> Gigi >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Typing mode question
Actually, although I still have a problem, if you do just the opposite of what VO says to do, you can get the dots reversed the way you would on a Perkins brailler. For instance, it says to do the right hand first. If you do the left hand first, it seems to put the dots in the right place. However, I heard VO say dots calibrated, and I got dots in weird places and they seem to be misorganized. Gigi On Sep 18, 2014, at 5:43 AM, BobH. wrote: > Ok, we're on a different issue, direct typing and the braille are different > things, all be they both set on the rotor. > > I also understand that you can't change the dots1-3 and 4-6 around, so many > are trying to braille upside down. > > Rh. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Eugenia Firth" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:12 AM > Subject: Re: Typing mode question > > > Hi there > Actually, this appears to work very similar to embryo. I was very fast with > embryo, but I must be doing something wrong because I can't make the > keyboard work with braille. Anybody who's tested this thing know what we > might be doing wrong to make this thing work? > > For one thing, I think maybe that I'm not fast enough to calibrate my dots. > I keep getting the opposite was that I want. For instance I want dots 456 to > be on the right and that's 123 to be on the left, and I can't get in the > backward. > Sincerely, > Gigi > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone >> else's explanation) to fully understand it. >> >> If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable >> vision, it might be great. >> >> Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a >> real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes >> contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly like >> it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your finger >> on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch >> typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really >> wanted. >> >> For my part, touch typing still works great. >> >> Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy. >> >> >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: 814-860-3194 >> Mobile: 814-431-0962 >> Email: bu...@brannan.name >> >> >> >>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>> >>> Hi those that know >>> What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. >>> >>> Gigi >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Typing mode question
Well, I've tried the braille and likeit so far. It is the same way round as I used mBraille, so a classic - SoFarsoGood. Thanks, RobH. Ps: I found 3 different braille tables I could use, where could I look up a character set for them, trying to find gems like £$@" and all theo ther stuff we've got used to using on net devices. R. - Original Message - From: "Eugenia Firth" To: Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:46 AM Subject: Re: Typing mode question Actually, although I still have a problem, if you do just the opposite of what VO says to do, you can get the dots reversed the way you would on a Perkins brailler. For instance, it says to do the right hand first. If you do the left hand first, it seems to put the dots in the right place. However, I heard VO say dots calibrated, and I got dots in weird places and they seem to be misorganized. Gigi On Sep 18, 2014, at 5:43 AM, BobH. wrote: > Ok, we're on a different issue, direct typing and the braille are > different > things, all be they both set on the rotor. > > I also understand that you can't change the dots1-3 and 4-6 around, so > many > are trying to braille upside down. > > Rh. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Eugenia Firth" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:12 AM > Subject: Re: Typing mode question > > > Hi there > Actually, this appears to work very similar to embryo. I was very fast > with > embryo, but I must be doing something wrong because I can't make the > keyboard work with braille. Anybody who's tested this thing know what we > might be doing wrong to make this thing work? > > For one thing, I think maybe that I'm not fast enough to calibrate my > dots. > I keep getting the opposite was that I want. For instance I want dots 456 > to > be on the right and that's 123 to be on the left, and I can't get in the > backward. > Sincerely, > Gigi > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone >> else's explanation) to fully understand it. >> >> If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable >> vision, it might be great. >> >> Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a >> real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes >> contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly >> like >> it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your >> finger >> on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch >> typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really >> wanted. >> >> For my part, touch typing still works great. >> >> Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy. >> >> >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: 814-860-3194 >> Mobile: 814-431-0962 >> Email: bu...@brannan.name >> >> >> >>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>> >>> Hi those that know >>> What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. >>> >>> Gigi >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionari
Re: Typing mode question
Hi! You're not alone in wondering about flexy. I've never got into it. /A 18 sep 2014 kl. 01:01 skrev Buddy Brannan : > Hi, > > Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone > else's explanation) to fully understand it. > > If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable > vision, it might be great. > > Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a real > tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes contact to > when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly like it does for > sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your finger on a key, it > will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch typing enabled > instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really wanted. > > For my part, touch typing still works great. > > Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy. > > > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: 814-860-3194 > Mobile: 814-431-0962 > Email: bu...@brannan.name > > > >> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >> Hi those that know >> What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. >> >> Gigi >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Typing mode question
I have found the braille to be pretty good on the iPad. I never got MBraille to work form me on the iPad, but the Apple braille lets me actually type in braille on my iPad. I actually find table top mode easier on the iPad, though will probably use away mode on the phone. There are some bugs but it's definitely usable as is. Lisette On 19/09/2014, at 8:30 am, BobH. wrote: > Well, I've tried the braille and likeit so far. It is the same way round as > I used mBraille, so a classic - SoFarsoGood. > > > Thanks, RobH. > > Ps: I found 3 different braille tables I could use, where could I look up > a character set for them, trying to find gems like £$@" and all theo ther > stuff we've got used to using on net devices. > > R. > - Original Message - > From: "Eugenia Firth" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:46 AM > Subject: Re: Typing mode question > > > Actually, although I still have a problem, if you do just the opposite of > what VO says to do, you can get the dots reversed the way you would on a > Perkins brailler. For instance, it says to do the right hand first. If you > do the left hand first, it seems to put the dots in the right place. > However, I heard VO say dots calibrated, and I got dots in weird places and > they seem to be misorganized. > > Gigi > > On Sep 18, 2014, at 5:43 AM, BobH. wrote: > >> Ok, we're on a different issue, direct typing and the braille are >> different >> things, all be they both set on the rotor. >> >> I also understand that you can't change the dots1-3 and 4-6 around, so >> many >> are trying to braille upside down. >> >> Rh. >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Eugenia Firth" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:12 AM >> Subject: Re: Typing mode question >> >> >> Hi there >> Actually, this appears to work very similar to embryo. I was very fast >> with >> embryo, but I must be doing something wrong because I can't make the >> keyboard work with braille. Anybody who's tested this thing know what we >> might be doing wrong to make this thing work? >> >> For one thing, I think maybe that I'm not fast enough to calibrate my >> dots. >> I keep getting the opposite was that I want. For instance I want dots 456 >> to >> be on the right and that's 123 to be on the left, and I can't get in the >> backward. >> Sincerely, >> Gigi >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone >>> else's explanation) to fully understand it. >>> >>> If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable >>> vision, it might be great. >>> >>> Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a >>> real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes >>> contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly >>> like >>> it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your >>> finger >>> on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch >>> typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really >>> wanted. >>> >>> For my part, touch typing still works great. >>> >>> Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: 814-860-3194 >>> Mobile: 814-431-0962 >>> Email: bu...@brannan.name >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi those that know >>>> What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. >>>> >>>> Gigi >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> F
Re: Typing mode question
Hi! Are there a lot of bugs with voiceover turned on? I haven't read much about it. Some ofcourse but the thing about dialing phone numbers was a new one to me. /A 18 sep 2014 kl. 03:17 skrev Brian Fischler : > Sounds like the bug in Fleksy makes using it absolutely pointless isn't the > whole idea of having it work in all apps so you do not have to toggle between > apps to use it? Why in the world would I want to toggle VoiceOver on and off > to use it. I usually upgrade right away but hearing about the dialing phone > numbers, scrolling issues and clicking on things not working it really sounds > quite awful and that Apple did for lack of a better phrase a piss poor job of > VoiceOver in IOS 8, and please don't give me the we should expect bugs in a > first release as I don't think Apple would release a version of IOS where > sighted people couldn't dial phone numbers or properly scroll. Major > disappointment. > On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Oh. Well. That kind of sucks. >> >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: 814-860-3194 >> Mobile: 814-431-0962 >> Email: bu...@brannan.name >> >> >> >>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Deb Lewis wrote: >>> >>> You have to enable speech in Fleksy and turn off VO for Fleksy to >>> work. It's awkward because it leaves you no way to switch to another >>> keyboard or read anything while you type. >>> >>> >>> On 9/17/14, Jenine Stanley wrote: Buddy, so glad you're having trouble also with Fleksy. I thought I'd lost my mind. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Hi, > > Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone > else's explanation) to fully understand it. > > If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable > vision, it might be great. > > Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a > real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes > contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly like > it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your finger > on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch > typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really > wanted. > > For my part, touch typing still works great. > > Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy. > > > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: 814-860-3194 > Mobile: 814-431-0962 > Email: bu...@brannan.name > > > >> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >> Hi those that know >> What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. >> >> Gigi >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop r
Re: Typing mode question
I did what you suggested and it still doesn't work. I turn off voice over and nothing is spoken. I'm confused! Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Deb Lewis wrote: > > You have to enable speech in Fleksy and turn off VO for Fleksy to > work. It's awkward because it leaves you no way to switch to another > keyboard or read anything while you type. > > >> On 9/17/14, Jenine Stanley wrote: >> Buddy, so glad you're having trouble also with Fleksy. I thought I'd lost my >> mind. >> Jenine Stanley >> dragonwalke...@gmail.com >> >> >> >>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone >>> else's explanation) to fully understand it. >>> >>> If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable >>> vision, it might be great. >>> >>> Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a >>> real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes >>> contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly like >>> it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your finger >>> on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch >>> typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really >>> wanted. >>> >>> For my part, touch typing still works great. >>> >>> Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: 814-860-3194 >>> Mobile: 814-431-0962 >>> Email: bu...@brannan.name >>> >>> >>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi those that know What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Typing mode question
Do you know if you can change any speech settings in Fleksy such as typing echo or something? As it is right now mine only speaks words after having typed them and then it's too late to change. I made a total mess on Facebook today trying to type with Fleksy. /Krister > 19 sep 2014 kl. 01:03 skrev Joe Quinn : > > I did what you suggested and it still doesn't work. I turn off voice over and > nothing is spoken. I'm confused! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Deb Lewis wrote: >> >> You have to enable speech in Fleksy and turn off VO for Fleksy to >> work. It's awkward because it leaves you no way to switch to another >> keyboard or read anything while you type. >> >> >>> On 9/17/14, Jenine Stanley wrote: >>> Buddy, so glad you're having trouble also with Fleksy. I thought I'd lost my >>> mind. >>> Jenine Stanley >>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Hi, Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone else's explanation) to fully understand it. If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable vision, it might be great. Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly like it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your finger on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really wanted. For my part, touch typing still works great. Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: bu...@brannan.name > On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > > Hi those that know > What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. > > Gigi > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Typing mode question
The only setting for speech is voice feedback. On 19 Sep 2014, at 11:55, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Do you know if you can change any speech settings in Fleksy such as typing > echo or something? As it is right now mine only speaks words after having > typed them and then it's too late to change. I made a total mess on Facebook > today trying to type with Fleksy. > /Krister > >> 19 sep 2014 kl. 01:03 skrev Joe Quinn : >> >> I did what you suggested and it still doesn't work. I turn off voice over >> and nothing is spoken. I'm confused! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Deb Lewis wrote: >>> >>> You have to enable speech in Fleksy and turn off VO for Fleksy to >>> work. It's awkward because it leaves you no way to switch to another >>> keyboard or read anything while you type. >>> >>> On 9/17/14, Jenine Stanley wrote: Buddy, so glad you're having trouble also with Fleksy. I thought I'd lost my mind. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com > On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > > Hi, > > Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone > else's explanation) to fully understand it. > > If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable > vision, it might be great. > > Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a > real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes > contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly like > it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your finger > on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch > typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really > wanted. > > For my part, touch typing still works great. > > Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy. > > > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: 814-860-3194 > Mobile: 814-431-0962 > Email: bu...@brannan.name > > > >> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >> Hi those that know >> What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are. >> >> Gigi >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvi
