Re: allegiant air website not accessible with vo and safari

2010-09-15 Thread Ray Foret Jr
In short, we were not looking in what we thought was the right place.  Is that 
it?

wow!!  Again, thanks.


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On Sep 15, 2010, at 6:05 AM, Colin M wrote:

Hi Mary! and all!
I've had another look and I am not having the same trouble as you and others!
Mike says to bring the cursor to vo cursor and then do a mouse click!
All I can say is I do not need to do this!
I've found a quick way to get to the table, using the rota vo+u go to the 
table's part and it is the only table select it, then I can go to the city 
button select one then I scroll right past the clickable text to departure 
link, vo+sp bar that then scroll right again past adults button children button 
promo code until I get to the month which is set on sep each side of the month 
name is than I went to >than and vo+sp bar and scrolled left back to 
the month name and it changed to Oct.
Then scrolled right along to the year changed that in the same way with >than, 
scrolled right again then comes the days letters s, m, t, w After that are 
the numbers which all have links selected one and I went to the departure field 
and the date was all there!
I also did the same for return date!
I hope this helps!
Colin.
On 15 Sep 2010, at 08:28, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Wondering why I couldn't get the blasted dates to show.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
> 
> E-Mail:
> rforetjr at comcast dot net
> Skype Name:
> barefootedray
> 
> On Sep 14, 2010, at 9:22 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary, this is indeed a problem site, I do have a wrk around though. Move 
> your voice over cursor to the date you want, and press control option command 
> f5 to place the mouse on the item. Now press control option shift space to do 
> a mouse click, this calendar seems to require actual mouse clicks to work, 
> it's bad design on their part though.
> On Sep 14, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I was trying to help a friend make an on line reservation using
>> http://www.allegiantair.com
>> and couldn't get past the opening screen, because I was unable to access the 
>> calendar to select departure and return dates. I tried this with a pc as 
>> well and didn't have any better luck there, but for purposes of  this 
>> message, I'm curious if any of you have been successful with this site or 
>> can tell me what the problem is, so that if I write to Apple, I'd know what 
>> to reference. I had high hopes for the magic track pad and that calendar, 
>> but even though vo read out s m t w etc and the numbers for dates all in a 
>> string, I couldn't get focus on any one thing to try to select. Getting the 
>> numbers and letter abbreviations read out was further than I or she got with 
>> windows screen readers, but it still didn't do us any good. 
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
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Re: allegiant air website not accessible with vo and safari

2010-09-15 Thread Colin M
Hi Mary! and all!
I've had another look and I am not having the same trouble as you and others!
Mike says to bring the cursor to vo cursor and then do a mouse click!
All I can say is I do not need to do this!
I've found a quick way to get to the table, using the rota vo+u go to the 
table's part and it is the only table select it, then I can go to the city 
button select one then I scroll right past the clickable text to departure 
link, vo+sp bar that then scroll right again past adults button children button 
promo code until I get to the month which is set on sep each side of the month 
name is than I went to >than and vo+sp bar and scrolled left back to 
the month name and it changed to Oct.
Then scrolled right along to the year changed that in the same way with >than, 
scrolled right again then comes the days letters s, m, t, w After that are 
the numbers which all have links selected one and I went to the departure field 
and the date was all there!
I also did the same for return date!
I hope this helps!
Colin.
On 15 Sep 2010, at 08:28, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Wondering why I couldn't get the blasted dates to show.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
> 
> E-Mail:
> rforetjr at comcast dot net
> Skype Name:
> barefootedray
> 
> On Sep 14, 2010, at 9:22 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary, this is indeed a problem site, I do have a wrk around though. Move 
> your voice over cursor to the date you want, and press control option command 
> f5 to place the mouse on the item. Now press control option shift space to do 
> a mouse click, this calendar seems to require actual mouse clicks to work, 
> it's bad design on their part though.
> On Sep 14, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I was trying to help a friend make an on line reservation using
>> http://www.allegiantair.com
>> and couldn't get past the opening screen, because I was unable to access the 
>> calendar to select departure and return dates. I tried this with a pc as 
>> well and didn't have any better luck there, but for purposes of  this 
>> message, I'm curious if any of you have been successful with this site or 
>> can tell me what the problem is, so that if I write to Apple, I'd know what 
>> to reference. I had high hopes for the magic track pad and that calendar, 
>> but even though vo read out s m t w etc and the numbers for dates all in a 
>> string, I couldn't get focus on any one thing to try to select. Getting the 
>> numbers and letter abbreviations read out was further than I or she got with 
>> windows screen readers, but it still didn't do us any good. 
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
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Re: allegiant air website not accessible with vo and safari

2010-09-15 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Wondering why I couldn't get the blasted dates to show.  Thanks.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!

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On Sep 14, 2010, at 9:22 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Hi Mary, this is indeed a problem site, I do have a wrk around though. Move 
your voice over cursor to the date you want, and press control option command 
f5 to place the mouse on the item. Now press control option shift space to do a 
mouse click, this calendar seems to require actual mouse clicks to work, it's 
bad design on their part though.
On Sep 14, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

> Hi all,
> I was trying to help a friend make an on line reservation using
> http://www.allegiantair.com
> and couldn't get past the opening screen, because I was unable to access the 
> calendar to select departure and return dates. I tried this with a pc as well 
> and didn't have any better luck there, but for purposes of  this message, I'm 
> curious if any of you have been successful with this site or can tell me what 
> the problem is, so that if I write to Apple, I'd know what to reference. I 
> had high hopes for the magic track pad and that calendar, but even though vo 
> read out s m t w etc and the numbers for dates all in a string, I couldn't 
> get focus on any one thing to try to select. Getting the numbers and letter 
> abbreviations read out was further than I or she got with windows screen 
> readers, but it still didn't do us any good. 
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: allegiant air website not accessible with vo and safari

2010-09-14 Thread Mary Otten

Hi Mike,
My problem was that I couldn't even get to the dates. I went back there and 
tried pressing vo space, the 5 on the number pad, up and down arrows in quick 
nav and the enter kay on that departure date link. After each of those, I 
looked around with the number pad and quick nav arrows for anything resembling 
dates. No go. Don't know what I'm not doing, but since Colin managed, it seems 
like I ought to be able to do that too.

Mary

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Re: allegiant air website not accessible with vo and safari

2010-09-14 Thread Mike Arrigo
I was also in dom mode, that's what I always use, haven't really found that 
group mode makes things faster or easier, that's a personal preference of 
course.
On Sep 14, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

> Colin,
> Were you in dom or group mode? That's the only thing I didn't think of, 
> trying the other mode. I was in dom mode. I had no problems with the pop up 
> buttons to select my city. But the calendar fields certainly didn't appear 
> for me as you described.
> 
> Mary
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Re: allegiant air website not accessible with vo and safari

2010-09-14 Thread Mike Arrigo
Hi Mary, this is indeed a problem site, I do have a wrk around though. Move 
your voice over cursor to the date you want, and press control option command 
f5 to place the mouse on the item. Now press control option shift space to do a 
mouse click, this calendar seems to require actual mouse clicks to work, it's 
bad design on their part though.
On Sep 14, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

> Hi all,
> I was trying to help a friend make an on line reservation using
> http://www.allegiantair.com
> and couldn't get past the opening screen, because I was unable to access the 
> calendar to select departure and return dates. I tried this with a pc as well 
> and didn't have any better luck there, but for purposes of  this message, I'm 
> curious if any of you have been successful with this site or can tell me what 
> the problem is, so that if I write to Apple, I'd know what to reference. I 
> had high hopes for the magic track pad and that calendar, but even though vo 
> read out s m t w etc and the numbers for dates all in a string, I couldn't 
> get focus on any one thing to try to select. Getting the numbers and letter 
> abbreviations read out was further than I or she got with windows screen 
> readers, but it still didn't do us any good. 
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: allegiant air website not accessible with vo and safari

2010-09-14 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Well Colin, good for you.  For someone still failry new to the Mac, you are 
coming along very well.  Let me take a look at the site.


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On Sep 14, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Colin M wrote:

Hi Mary!
I've just had a look at that site from the link in your part of this message!
I do not know where you might be going wrong but I've never used any site like 
this before and I could choose a city to leave from and set a date to depart 
from!
What I did after selecting the city next to it is depart edit text and next to 
that is a link which I pressed!
When I found the calendar the 1st option is the month which was set on Sep with 
a than link each side of it, when i pressed the > link it changed 
to October!
Then I went to the next field to pick the year, it was set on 2010 with a >than 
link next to it I pressed that and it changed to 2011, next came the day  all 
of the numbers also had links so I selected one when I did this I scrolled back 
to the departure slot and the date was there Oct 9 2011!
I'm in the uk and it seemed to work ok here!
Sorry I'm not very good at directions so I hope this is of use to you and not 
to boar ring!
Colin :-]

On 14 Sep 2010, at 17:55, Mary Otten wrote:

> Hi all,
> I was trying to help a friend make an on line reservation using
> http://www.allegiantair.com
> and couldn't get past the opening screen, because I was unable to access the 
> calendar to select departure and return dates. I tried this with a pc as well 
> and didn't have any better luck there, but for purposes of  this message, I'm 
> curious if any of you have been successful with this site or can tell me what 
> the problem is, so that if I write to Apple, I'd know what to reference. I 
> had high hopes for the magic track pad and that calendar, but even though vo 
> read out s m t w etc and the numbers for dates all in a string, I couldn't 
> get focus on any one thing to try to select. Getting the numbers and letter 
> abbreviations read out was further than I or she got with windows screen 
> readers, but it still didn't do us any good. 
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: allegiant air website not accessible with vo and safari

2010-09-14 Thread Greg Aikens
I have used this site on a PC and the steps I used were very similar to what 
Colin described. I haven't looked at it on the mac yet. 

Greg
On Sep 14, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Colin M wrote:

> Hi Mary!
> I've just had a look at that site from the link in your part of this message!
> I do not know where you might be going wrong but I've never used any site 
> like this before and I could choose a city to leave from and set a date to 
> depart from!
> What I did after selecting the city next to it is depart edit text and next 
> to that is a link which I pressed!
> When I found the calendar the 1st option is the month which was set on Sep 
> with a than link each side of it, when i pressed the > link it 
> changed to October!
> Then I went to the next field to pick the year, it was set on 2010 with a 
> >than link next to it I pressed that and it changed to 2011, next came the 
> day  all of the numbers also had links so I selected one when I did this I 
> scrolled back to the departure slot and the date was there Oct 9 2011!
> I'm in the uk and it seemed to work ok here!
> Sorry I'm not very good at directions so I hope this is of use to you and not 
> to boar ring!
> Colin :-]
> 
> On 14 Sep 2010, at 17:55, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I was trying to help a friend make an on line reservation using
>> http://www.allegiantair.com
>> and couldn't get past the opening screen, because I was unable to access the 
>> calendar to select departure and return dates. I tried this with a pc as 
>> well and didn't have any better luck there, but for purposes of  this 
>> message, I'm curious if any of you have been successful with this site or 
>> can tell me what the problem is, so that if I write to Apple, I'd know what 
>> to reference. I had high hopes for the magic track pad and that calendar, 
>> but even though vo read out s m t w etc and the numbers for dates all in a 
>> string, I couldn't get focus on any one thing to try to select. Getting the 
>> numbers and letter abbreviations read out was further than I or she got with 
>> windows screen readers, but it still didn't do us any good. 
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: allegiant air website not accessible with vo and safari

2010-09-14 Thread Mary Otten
Colin,
Were you in dom or group mode? That's the only thing I didn't think of, trying 
the other mode. I was in dom mode. I had no problems with the pop up buttons to 
select my city. But the calendar fields certainly didn't appear for me as you 
described.

Mary

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Re: allegiant air website not accessible with vo and safari

2010-09-14 Thread Colin M
Hi Mary!
I've just had a look at that site from the link in your part of this message!
I do not know where you might be going wrong but I've never used any site like 
this before and I could choose a city to leave from and set a date to depart 
from!
What I did after selecting the city next to it is depart edit text and next to 
that is a link which I pressed!
When I found the calendar the 1st option is the month which was set on Sep with 
a than link each side of it, when i pressed the > link it changed 
to October!
Then I went to the next field to pick the year, it was set on 2010 with a >than 
link next to it I pressed that and it changed to 2011, next came the day  all 
of the numbers also had links so I selected one when I did this I scrolled back 
to the departure slot and the date was there Oct 9 2011!
I'm in the uk and it seemed to work ok here!
Sorry I'm not very good at directions so I hope this is of use to you and not 
to boar ring!
Colin :-]

On 14 Sep 2010, at 17:55, Mary Otten wrote:

> Hi all,
> I was trying to help a friend make an on line reservation using
> http://www.allegiantair.com
> and couldn't get past the opening screen, because I was unable to access the 
> calendar to select departure and return dates. I tried this with a pc as well 
> and didn't have any better luck there, but for purposes of  this message, I'm 
> curious if any of you have been successful with this site or can tell me what 
> the problem is, so that if I write to Apple, I'd know what to reference. I 
> had high hopes for the magic track pad and that calendar, but even though vo 
> read out s m t w etc and the numbers for dates all in a string, I couldn't 
> get focus on any one thing to try to select. Getting the numbers and letter 
> abbreviations read out was further than I or she got with windows screen 
> readers, but it still didn't do us any good. 
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
> 
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