Re: file maker pro

2009-12-09 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I was incorrect on the name of the database I was thinking of.  The  
relational database is: Panorama,.

There is a 45 day trial period if you want to try it out.

Jon

On Dec 4, 2009, at 5:08 PM, John W. Carty wrote:

 This is the simple response I received from apple concerning file  
 maker pro and voiceover.

 I believe a fully accessible database application for the screen  
 reader user community to be a signifigant problem far over due.

 Ms access is a terrible application and screen reader support is far  
 from where it should be.

 From: Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com]
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:07 PM
 To: John W. Carty
 Subject: Re: file maker pro

 Hi John:

 Unfortunately, FileMaker pro is not compatible with VoiceOver.


 On Dec 4, 2009, at 1:14 PM, John W. Carty wrote:


 Does file maker pro support the cocoa api making it accessible using  
 voiceover?

 Thanx,

 John Carty



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Re: file maker pro

2009-12-07 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Although FileMaker is the primary DB for apple and PC cross  
compatability, it is not the only solution out there.  The folks at  
tidbits like a program I believe is called retrospect.  I have thought  
about testing it out, but never took the time.  Also note, that the  
macintosh comes with a copy  of mySQL which might be of help.

I am kind of itching for a project right now, so if you want me to dig  
into this contact me privately at jonc...@cox.net

Thanks,

Jonathan Cohn

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Re: file maker pro

2009-12-05 Thread Chris Hofstader
Given some of the tricks I mentioned yesteray, you may be able to make it sort 
of accessible but in an entirely clunky manner.

Databases are one of the application sectors, along with accounting and a few 
other somewhat sophisticated applications that people need to get higher paying 
jobs and promotions at companies where they currently work.  It is a failure of 
high priced AT vendors, free software (orca, NVDA) and Apple with VoiceOver.  
Once upon a time, JAWS did work with Access but they stopped keeping the effort 
alive as few customers requested - the sad thing was that these users all 
needed it for their jobs which were put into peril due to this strategic 
decision at FS.

The 90% rule bites us in the butt again.

cdh


On Dec 4, 2009, at 5:08 PM, John W. Carty wrote:

 This is the simple response I received from apple concerning file maker pro 
 and voiceover.
  
 I believe a fully accessible database application for the screen reader user 
 community to be a signifigant problem far over due.
  
 Ms access is a terrible application and screen reader support is far from 
 where it should be.
  
 From: Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] 
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:07 PM
 To: John W. Carty
 Subject: Re: file maker pro
  
 Hi John:
  
 Unfortunately, FileMaker pro is not compatible with VoiceOver.
  
  
 On Dec 4, 2009, at 1:14 PM, John W. Carty wrote:
 
 
 Does file maker pro support the cocoa api making it accessible using 
 voiceover?
  
 Thanx,
  
 John Carty
  
  
 
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Re: file maker pro

2009-12-04 Thread James Nash
Hi,

This is not very helpful, but speaking from past experience - excluding the 
times I've pestered them about Spaces,  Apple have been very forthcoming with 
advice and support. 

You should also try to remember that Apple are a very secretive company and you 
may very find that in some future update for IWork that VO support for Numbers 
has been vastly improved. I know this doesn't help with the current situation, 
and it is one that I have been in myself. Unfortunately, the last time this 
happened to me, it drove me away from Mac OS X.

TC
James 


James 
On 4 Dec 2009, at 22:08, John W. Carty wrote:

 This is the simple response I received from apple concerning file maker pro 
 and voiceover.
  
 I believe a fully accessible database application for the screen reader user 
 community to be a signifigant problem far over due.
  
 Ms access is a terrible application and screen reader support is far from 
 where it should be.
  
 From: Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] 
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:07 PM
 To: John W. Carty
 Subject: Re: file maker pro
  
 Hi John:
  
 Unfortunately, FileMaker pro is not compatible with VoiceOver.
  
  
 On Dec 4, 2009, at 1:14 PM, John W. Carty wrote:
 
 
 Does file maker pro support the cocoa api making it accessible using 
 voiceover?
  
 Thanx,
  
 John Carty
  
  
 
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Re: file maker pro

2009-12-04 Thread carlene knight
Hi:

Has anybody tried Spaces lately?  I think I'll give it a go.


On Dec 4, 2009, at 2:39 PM, James  Nash wrote:

 Hi,
 
 This is not very helpful, but speaking from past experience - excluding the 
 times I've pestered them about Spaces,  Apple have been very forthcoming with 
 advice and support. 
 
 You should also try to remember that Apple are a very secretive company and 
 you may very find that in some future update for IWork that VO support for 
 Numbers has been vastly improved. I know this doesn't help with the current 
 situation, and it is one that I have been in myself. Unfortunately, the last 
 time this happened to me, it drove me away from Mac OS X.
 
 TC
 James 
 
 
 James 
 On 4 Dec 2009, at 22:08, John W. Carty wrote:
 
 This is the simple response I received from apple concerning file maker pro 
 and voiceover.
  
 I believe a fully accessible database application for the screen reader user 
 community to be a signifigant problem far over due.
  
 Ms access is a terrible application and screen reader support is far from 
 where it should be.
  
 From: Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] 
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:07 PM
 To: John W. Carty
 Subject: Re: file maker pro
  
 Hi John:
  
 Unfortunately, FileMaker pro is not compatible with VoiceOver.
  
  
 On Dec 4, 2009, at 1:14 PM, John W. Carty wrote:
 
 
 Does file maker pro support the cocoa api making it accessible using 
 voiceover?
  
 Thanx,
  
 John Carty
  
  
 
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Re: file maker pro

2009-12-04 Thread James Nash
Good luck. It is an excellent idea but as I say, it is a broken concept. Wish I 
could get Apple to see it and  fix it. If after using it, you feel the same 
way, do you think you could send Apple a gentle prod please?

Thanks 

TC
James 
On 4 Dec 2009, at 23:59, carlene knight wrote:

 Hi:
 
 Has anybody tried Spaces lately?  I think I'll give it a go.
 
 
 On Dec 4, 2009, at 2:39 PM, James  Nash wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 This is not very helpful, but speaking from past experience - excluding the 
 times I've pestered them about Spaces,  Apple have been very forthcoming 
 with advice and support. 
 
 You should also try to remember that Apple are a very secretive company and 
 you may very find that in some future update for IWork that VO support for 
 Numbers has been vastly improved. I know this doesn't help with the current 
 situation, and it is one that I have been in myself. Unfortunately, the last 
 time this happened to me, it drove me away from Mac OS X.
 
 TC
 James 
 
 
 James 
 On 4 Dec 2009, at 22:08, John W. Carty wrote:
 
 This is the simple response I received from apple concerning file maker pro 
 and voiceover.
  
 I believe a fully accessible database application for the screen reader 
 user community to be a signifigant problem far over due.
  
 Ms access is a terrible application and screen reader support is far from 
 where it should be.
  
 From: Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] 
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:07 PM
 To: John W. Carty
 Subject: Re: file maker pro
  
 Hi John:
  
 Unfortunately, FileMaker pro is not compatible with VoiceOver.
  
  
 On Dec 4, 2009, at 1:14 PM, John W. Carty wrote:
 
 
 Does file maker pro support the cocoa api making it accessible using 
 voiceover?
  
 Thanx,
  
 John Carty
  
  
 
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