RE: remote access

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

Thanks for this.

I’m going to give it a go during the week and see how I get on.

Might have to setup a different user to use for the auto answer.

This is kind of scarey really, knowing that they have this available if someone 
really tries to get in to a machine.

Thanks for the info though I’ll let you know how I get on.

Simon f

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On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2016 2:38 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: remote access

Simon,

Not sure if this will work in newer versions of MacOS, but take a look at this 
one:

http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20110222080854178

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 22, 2016, at 18:45, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim

Yeah I know of things like that but how if you are trying to work on a remote 
machine of your own  can you then enable a facetime connection without someone 
there to enable the connection?

How possible would it be to enable a facetime session via a terminal connection 
/ from the command line.

Now that’s one to get the cogs turning over!
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2016 3:30 AM
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Subject: Re: remote access

Simon,

As far as I can recall, the best way to do it is to have both a FaceTime 
session and your Screen Sharing session going at the same time.  So, you'll 
have control of the computer and the audio will be heard through the FaceTime 
session.  Otherwise, I don't believe that the sound can be routed through to 
your computer.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 22, 2016, at 04:06, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi List,

I know I’ve asked this before but can’t remember what the outcome was.

Is there any way for a totally blind person to remote desktop or VNC  control 
another Mac computer using voiceover over the remote connection?

I know I can do this fine with windows using Jaws over the RDP connection
But I need a way of doing this with my mac computers.I believe terminal is an 
option using command line but my knowledge of commands for this type of thing 
is not up to scratch as yet.

Any information would be appreciate.

Simon f

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Re: remote access

[Jonathan Cohn]

I guess back to my mac does not relay sound? 

I wonder, the terminal command "open" I believe can take a phone URL so perhaps 
something like 
open -a FaceTime  tel://411 

could work in terminal?
You would have to look up the actual URL for reference to phone applications.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim
>  
> Yeah I know of things like that but how if you are trying to work on a remote 
> machine of your own  can you then enable a facetime connection without 
> someone there to enable the connection?
>  
> How possible would it be to enable a facetime session via a terminal 
> connection / from the command line.
>  
> Now that’s one to get the cogs turning over!
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>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2016 3:30 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: remote access
>  
> Simon,
>  
> As far as I can recall, the best way to do it is to have both a FaceTime 
> session and your Screen Sharing session going at the same time.  So, you'll 
> have control of the computer and the audio will be heard through the FaceTime 
> session.  Otherwise, I don't believe that the sound can be routed through to 
> your computer.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
>  
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 04:06, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>  
> Hi List,
>  
> I know I’ve asked this before but can’t remember what the outcome was.
>  
> Is there any way for a totally blind person to remote desktop or VNC  control 
> another Mac computer using voiceover over the remote connection?
>  
> I know I can do this fine with windows using Jaws over the RDP connection
> But I need a way of doing this with my mac computers.I believe terminal is an 
> option using command line but my knowledge of commands for this type of thing 
> is not up to scratch as yet.
>  
> Any information would be appreciate.
>  
> Simon f
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Re: remote access

[Tim Kilburn]

Simon,

Not sure if this will work in newer versions of MacOS, but take a look at this 
one:

http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20110222080854178

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 22, 2016, at 18:45, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Hi Tim
 
Yeah I know of things like that but how if you are trying to work on a remote 
machine of your own  can you then enable a facetime connection without someone 
there to enable the connection?
 
How possible would it be to enable a facetime session via a terminal connection 
/ from the command line.
 
Now that’s one to get the cogs turning over!
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2016 3:30 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: remote access
 
Simon,
 
As far as I can recall, the best way to do it is to have both a FaceTime 
session and your Screen Sharing session going at the same time.  So, you'll 
have control of the computer and the audio will be heard through the FaceTime 
session.  Otherwise, I don't believe that the sound can be routed through to 
your computer.
 
Later...
 
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
 
On Jul 22, 2016, at 04:06, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
 
Hi List,
 
I know I’ve asked this before but can’t remember what the outcome was.
 
Is there any way for a totally blind person to remote desktop or VNC  control 
another Mac computer using voiceover over the remote connection?
 
I know I can do this fine with windows using Jaws over the RDP connection
But I need a way of doing this with my mac computers.I believe terminal is an 
option using command line but my knowledge of commands for this type of thing 
is not up to scratch as yet.
 
Any information would be appreciate.
 
Simon f
 
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RE: remote access

[Simon Fogarty]

You don’t have to but you would if you needed video as the mac mini is just a 
box with ports

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Subject: Re: remote access

Hi. Do you have to purchase a webcam for the Mac Mini as I couldn’t get 
FaceTime to make a successful call yesterday.
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wrote:

Simon,

As far as I can recall, the best way to do it is to have both a FaceTime 
session and your Screen Sharing session going at the same time.  So, you'll 
have control of the computer and the audio will be heard through the FaceTime 
session.  Otherwise, I don't believe that the sound can be routed through to 
your computer.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 22, 2016, at 04:06, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi List,

I know I’ve asked this before but can’t remember what the outcome was.

Is there any way for a totally blind person to remote desktop or VNC  control 
another Mac computer using voiceover over the remote connection?

I know I can do this fine with windows using Jaws over the RDP connection
But I need a way of doing this with my mac computers.I believe terminal is an 
option using command line but my knowledge of commands for this type of thing 
is not up to scratch as yet.

Any information would be appreciate.

Simon f

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RE: remote access

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim

Yeah I know of things like that but how if you are trying to work on a remote 
machine of your own  can you then enable a facetime connection without someone 
there to enable the connection?

How possible would it be to enable a facetime session via a terminal connection 
/ from the command line.

Now that’s one to get the cogs turning over!
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2016 3:30 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: remote access

Simon,

As far as I can recall, the best way to do it is to have both a FaceTime 
session and your Screen Sharing session going at the same time.  So, you'll 
have control of the computer and the audio will be heard through the FaceTime 
session.  Otherwise, I don't believe that the sound can be routed through to 
your computer.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 22, 2016, at 04:06, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi List,

I know I’ve asked this before but can’t remember what the outcome was.

Is there any way for a totally blind person to remote desktop or VNC  control 
another Mac computer using voiceover over the remote connection?

I know I can do this fine with windows using Jaws over the RDP connection
But I need a way of doing this with my mac computers.I believe terminal is an 
option using command line but my knowledge of commands for this type of thing 
is not up to scratch as yet.

Any information would be appreciate.

Simon f

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Re: remote access

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Or you could just do a FaceTime audio call instead.  No need for video in this 
case.  If you are wishing for video as part of your FaceTime call, then a 
web-cam will be needed.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 22, 2016, at 09:36, Saqib Hussain  wrote:

Hi. Do you have to purchase a webcam for the Mac Mini as I couldn’t get 
FaceTime to make a successful call yesterday. 
> On 22 Jul 2016, at 16:29, Tim Kilburn  > wrote:
> 
> Simon,
> 
> As far as I can recall, the best way to do it is to have both a FaceTime 
> session and your Screen Sharing session going at the same time.  So, you'll 
> have control of the computer and the audio will be heard through the FaceTime 
> session.  Otherwise, I don't believe that the sound can be routed through to 
> your computer.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 04:06, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I know I’ve asked this before but can’t remember what the outcome was.
>  
> Is there any way for a totally blind person to remote desktop or VNC  control 
> another Mac computer using voiceover over the remote connection?
>  
> I know I can do this fine with windows using Jaws over the RDP connection
> But I need a way of doing this with my mac computers.I believe terminal is an 
> option using command line but my knowledge of commands for this type of thing 
> is not up to scratch as yet.
>  
> Any information would be appreciate.
>  
> Simon f
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Re: remote access

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Saqib,
Yes I did for my mac mini when I was using it for that.
Thats why the mac mini costs less no camera built in. :)
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On Jul 22, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Saqib Hussain wrote:

> Hi. Do you have to purchase a webcam for the Mac Mini as I couldn’t get 
> FaceTime to make a successful call yesterday. 
>> On 22 Jul 2016, at 16:29, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Simon,
>> 
>> As far as I can recall, the best way to do it is to have both a FaceTime 
>> session and your Screen Sharing session going at the same time.  So, you'll 
>> have control of the computer and the audio will be heard through the 
>> FaceTime session.  Otherwise, I don't believe that the sound can be routed 
>> through to your computer.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 04:06, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi List,
>>  
>> I know I’ve asked this before but can’t remember what the outcome was.
>>  
>> Is there any way for a totally blind person to remote desktop or VNC  
>> control another Mac computer using voiceover over the remote connection?
>>  
>> I know I can do this fine with windows using Jaws over the RDP connection
>> But I need a way of doing this with my mac computers.I believe terminal is 
>> an option using command line but my knowledge of commands for this type of 
>> thing is not up to scratch as yet.
>>  
>> Any information would be appreciate.
>>  
>> Simon f
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Re: remote access

[Saqib Hussain]

Hi. Do you have to purchase a webcam for the Mac Mini as I couldn’t get 
FaceTime to make a successful call yesterday. 
> On 22 Jul 2016, at 16:29, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
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> Simon,
> 
> As far as I can recall, the best way to do it is to have both a FaceTime 
> session and your Screen Sharing session going at the same time.  So, you'll 
> have control of the computer and the audio will be heard through the FaceTime 
> session.  Otherwise, I don't believe that the sound can be routed through to 
> your computer.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 04:06, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I know I’ve asked this before but can’t remember what the outcome was.
>  
> Is there any way for a totally blind person to remote desktop or VNC  control 
> another Mac computer using voiceover over the remote connection?
>  
> I know I can do this fine with windows using Jaws over the RDP connection
> But I need a way of doing this with my mac computers.I believe terminal is an 
> option using command line but my knowledge of commands for this type of thing 
> is not up to scratch as yet.
>  
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>  
> Simon f
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Re: remote access

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Simon,

As far as I can recall, the best way to do it is to have both a FaceTime 
session and your Screen Sharing session going at the same time.  So, you'll 
have control of the computer and the audio will be heard through the FaceTime 
session.  Otherwise, I don't believe that the sound can be routed through to 
your computer.

Later...

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On Jul 22, 2016, at 04:06, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi List,
 
I know I’ve asked this before but can’t remember what the outcome was.
 
Is there any way for a totally blind person to remote desktop or VNC  control 
another Mac computer using voiceover over the remote connection?
 
I know I can do this fine with windows using Jaws over the RDP connection
But I need a way of doing this with my mac computers.I believe terminal is an 
option using command line but my knowledge of commands for this type of thing 
is not up to scratch as yet.
 
Any information would be appreciate.
 
Simon f

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Re: remote access

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

I think it depends on your requirements and your existing experience whether or 
not you’ll find OS X Server to your liking, but I’m not going to deny that 
having a cool head and some familiarity with Unix and networking definitely 
helps.  In this respect it’s actually not optimally placed for its target 
audience. :)

It’s a great solution if you need a simple transparent workgroup server running 
some simple services like file sharing and caching and an internal wiki.  But, 
a lot of advanced functionality is down at the command line or in text files, 
so you need to be prepared to pop the boot and get your hands dirty if you want 
to scrub things clean.  Things will get especially messy if you use the default 
split DNS setup that it recommends, and especially brittle if you get Open 
Directory involved.  For mail, at least the first is likely to be true.  You 
might like to think ahead, and make sure your DNS setup is prearranged before 
you get Server set up.  If Exchange and Windows Server is your benchmark, this 
isn’t nearly as forgiving.  If you want to know what I use, the Mac Mini that 
used to run OS X Server is now running Linux, and my slower Mini is now 
exclusively the cache.  However, it does appear that Apple are gradually making 
OS X Server more robust, and the outlook is generally positive.

I have often wondered why Apple does not build a server appliance.  Just like 
AirPort, they could build a complete, functional, vertical server platform, 
with an App Store.  Then they’d never have to worry about out-of-the-box 
tinkerers messing up their nice user interfaces ever again. :)

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Re: remote access

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Interesting. I might have to get that. App store shows server as being 
$20. Do you just upgrade your existing OSX install or does it wipe 
everything? When OSX gets upgraded do you have to buy the upgraded 
server as well or are updates free like in the non-server version?


CB

On 1/20/16 11:25 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

Caching service is definitely worth it for me because my bandwidth is metered 
(in a good way) and I’m annoyed by how long and how bandwidth-wasting the 
multiple-device update cycle and voice pack reinstallations are.  Nowadays it 
also helps with iCloud documents and photos too, and that’s quite a packet 
because the cache will store data that you put as well as get, in effect 
completely nullifying many document and photo accesses.  At first it was 
difficult to do because the cache would get wiped out every time I did a 
reinstall on the iMac I ran it on, but now that I have a Mini dedicated to OS X 
Server (again) on top of the Mac Mini Server it replaced (now running Linux) 
it’s back to being useful.  That Mini will just run and run, never get 
reinstalled and just get updated from time to time, and will provide a cache 
for as long as I need it to.  And because it’s a Mini, it’s small and silent 
and power-efficient.  Very cool.  I hope that Apple continues to push forward 
with the things that the server will cache, specifically FairPlay-protected 
movies, but it’s not here yet.  My only caution is that you not try to relocate 
the server volume; the cache is tied to the machine it is built on, and so 
trying to move the installation will cause its destruction (as I found out the 
hard way, losing me 70 GB of active cache).  The server is part of Server.app 
and as long as the clients all use the same public IPv4 address (with NAT, 
usually) the cache on your home network will serve them.



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Re: remote access

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Essentially, server just installs on top of your client, entirely unlike Snow 
Leopard or prior where you had a server edition of the software.  That’s kinda 
the beauty of it.  Just install and use.  It’s mostly a UI for built-in stuff, 
but there are also servers included inside the app; check out the contents of 
Contents/ServerRoot in the app bundle.  The same app also remote-controls a Mac 
that runs Server already and relays alert messages from that Mac to this.  So 
you perform the setup on one Mac, and then use the same app to connect to it 
from the other.

As of Yosemite, you need only purchase Server once and it’s multi-version, as 
opposed to prior releases where each OS upgrade was a chargeable upgrade to the 
Server app.  So yes, install it once and continue to get updates for free for 
future OS releases.  It makes a couple of small changes when you set the server 
up on the machine, most of them intuitive: continually power on, disable 
automatic login, and disable Spotlight indexing.  On a client you probably want 
to undo the last of these, either with System Preferences or mdutil.  On my 
server Mac Mini, I left it off and also turned off the HFS+ journal, for a bit 
of extra speed.  Finally your OS version is updated to show as a server, just 
as though you had installed a server release.  Once you have it set up and have 
added disks to it, it’s basically like an accessible NAS platform that you can 
remotely control.  Very neat.

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RE: remote access

[Simon Fogarty]

No, it's an application about 500 meg in size that youdownload and then run to 
install and then it extracts everything out and installs it 
 Then of course you have to set it up.



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Sent: Friday, 22 January 2016 4:03 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: remote access

Interesting. I might have to get that. App store shows server as being $20. Do 
you just upgrade your existing OSX install or does it wipe everything? When OSX 
gets upgraded do you have to buy the upgraded server as well or are updates 
free like in the non-server version?

CB

On 1/20/16 11:25 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
> Caching service is definitely worth it for me because my bandwidth is metered 
> (in a good way) and I’m annoyed by how long and how bandwidth-wasting the 
> multiple-device update cycle and voice pack reinstallations are.  Nowadays it 
> also helps with iCloud documents and photos too, and that’s quite a packet 
> because the cache will store data that you put as well as get, in effect 
> completely nullifying many document and photo accesses.  At first it was 
> difficult to do because the cache would get wiped out every time I did a 
> reinstall on the iMac I ran it on, but now that I have a Mini dedicated to OS 
> X Server (again) on top of the Mac Mini Server it replaced (now running 
> Linux) it’s back to being useful.  That Mini will just run and run, never get 
> reinstalled and just get updated from time to time, and will provide a cache 
> for as long as I need it to.  And because it’s a Mini, it’s small and silent 
> and power-efficient.  Very cool.  I hope that Apple continues to push forward 
> with the things that the server will cache, specifically FairPlay-protected 
> movies, but it’s not here yet.  My only caution is that you not try to 
> relocate the server volume; the cache is tied to the machine it is built on, 
> and so trying to move the installation will cause its destruction (as I found 
> out the hard way, losing me 70 GB of active cache).  The server is part of 
> Server.app and as long as the clients all use the same public IPv4 address 
> (with NAT, usually) the cache on your home network will serve them.
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RE: remote access

[Simon Fogarty]

On the subject of osx server, how much of a problem is it to setup an OS X 
server?

I know the server is an app you have to purchase and install to the desktop OSX 
 version, but setting up the DNS dhcp smtp etc 
I'm just thinking it might be worth playing around with as I'm looking to setup 
a mail server etc for something to do and learn.

 And my only comparison is windows servers and exchange which is lots of fun 
and hair losing frustration.

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Caching service is definitely worth it for me because my bandwidth is metered 
(in a good way) and I’m annoyed by how long and how bandwidth-wasting the 
multiple-device update cycle and voice pack reinstallations are.  Nowadays it 
also helps with iCloud documents and photos too, and that’s quite a packet 
because the cache will store data that you put as well as get, in effect 
completely nullifying many document and photo accesses.  At first it was 
difficult to do because the cache would get wiped out every time I did a 
reinstall on the iMac I ran it on, but now that I have a Mini dedicated to OS X 
Server (again) on top of the Mac Mini Server it replaced (now running Linux) 
it’s back to being useful.  That Mini will just run and run, never get 
reinstalled and just get updated from time to time, and will provide a cache 
for as long as I need it to.  And because it’s a Mini, it’s small and silent 
and power-efficient.  Very cool.  I hope that Apple continues to push forward 
with the things that the server will cache, specifically FairPlay-protected 
movies, but it’s not here yet.  My only caution is that you not try to relocate 
the server volume; the cache is tied to the machine it is built on, and so 
trying to move the installation will cause its destruction (as I found out the 
hard way, losing me 70 GB of active cache).  The server is part of Server.app 
and as long as the clients all use the same public IPv4 address (with NAT, 
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Re: remote access

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

I guess for my personal pile of devices the caching service isn't all 
that valuable but I could see it being very valuable for a large 
enterprise. Seems like Apple would want more people running that to take 
load off their servers. If I could just plop an app or start a service 
on my regular osx mini and let it humm along in the background for my 
home network I'd be happy to do that.


CB

On 1/20/16 7:31 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

I use OS X Server for the Caching service.  I wish they’d split it off and dump 
it in the client OS so I could update it with the rest of the system like you 
could with 10.6 server, but alas.  The best option seems to be to allow 
automatic updates to handle it, except that the Server app needs to be manually 
relaunched after upgrade.  You know when, because the cache stops working.  
It’s a pain in the network.  But eh, everything is an app, it’s all good. :)



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Re: remote access

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Caching service is definitely worth it for me because my bandwidth is metered 
(in a good way) and I’m annoyed by how long and how bandwidth-wasting the 
multiple-device update cycle and voice pack reinstallations are.  Nowadays it 
also helps with iCloud documents and photos too, and that’s quite a packet 
because the cache will store data that you put as well as get, in effect 
completely nullifying many document and photo accesses.  At first it was 
difficult to do because the cache would get wiped out every time I did a 
reinstall on the iMac I ran it on, but now that I have a Mini dedicated to OS X 
Server (again) on top of the Mac Mini Server it replaced (now running Linux) 
it’s back to being useful.  That Mini will just run and run, never get 
reinstalled and just get updated from time to time, and will provide a cache 
for as long as I need it to.  And because it’s a Mini, it’s small and silent 
and power-efficient.  Very cool.  I hope that Apple continues to push forward 
with the things that the server will cache, specifically FairPlay-protected 
movies, but it’s not here yet.  My only caution is that you not try to relocate 
the server volume; the cache is tied to the machine it is built on, and so 
trying to move the installation will cause its destruction (as I found out the 
hard way, losing me 70 GB of active cache).  The server is part of Server.app 
and as long as the clients all use the same public IPv4 address (with NAT, 
usually) the cache on your home network will serve them.

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Re: remote access

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

I use OS X Server for the Caching service.  I wish they’d split it off and dump 
it in the client OS so I could update it with the rest of the system like you 
could with 10.6 server, but alas.  The best option seems to be to allow 
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Re: remote access

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

I wonder why OSX server is different as software update from terminal 
works fine for regular OSX. I don't run server since, well, why do I 
need to? I just tried on El Capitan and softwareupdate -iva worked.


CB

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Ironically one of the things you can’t do from the command-line on OS X is to 
update OS X Server, because that’s now delivered from the Mac App Store.  There 
are also some things which are possible from the command-line, only by editing 
plist files, which means that for all practical purposes you will end up using 
the GUI.

So, sadly, it’s not quite as rosy as one might hope.  But hey, it’s still 
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Re: remote access

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Hmm,

Citrix anyone?

Chris.

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Mine is probably not the answer you're wanting, but I bring it up for
completeness. You should know that you can ssh into your Mac and do that
way everything you can do from a Mac terminal prompt.

Clearly, that's not the same as getting a remote desktop, but it is very
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Hi List,

 I'm trying to find something to allow me to remotely admin my Mac 
machines, but when I try with the built in remote tools in either 
Yosemite or elcapitan voiceover doesn't give me any feedback via the 
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 Does anyone know of a remote desktop tool that will allow for voiceover 
usage I guess similar to that of windows with jaws?


Thanks for any help people can provide.

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Re: remote access

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Mine is probably not the answer you're wanting, but I bring it up for
completeness. You should know that you can ssh into your Mac and do that
way everything you can do from a Mac terminal prompt.

Clearly, that's not the same as getting a remote desktop, but it is very
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Simon Fogarty writes:
> Hi List,
> 
>  I'm trying to find something to allow me to remotely admin my Mac machines, 
> but when I try with the built in remote tools in either Yosemite or elcapitan 
> voiceover doesn't give me any feedback via the remote connection.
> 
>  Does anyone know of a remote desktop tool that will allow for voiceover 
> usage I guess similar to that of windows with jaws?
> 
> Thanks for any help people can provide.
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Re: remote access

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

+1
I can configure and generally manage Apache running on a remote Mac Mini 
pretty well with just SSH. You might be surprised what you can do with a 
little Googling around. For example, depending on your flavor of OSX, 
you can install all updates by typing sudo softwareupdate -iva. You can, 
like all unix boxes, reboot the machine with sudo shutdown -r now. There 
are the other obvious things like sftp to transfer files or you can turn 
on filesharing via terminal as well and just mount the remote machine's 
drive so you can use your favorite local apps to edit things.


CB

On 1/19/16 4:17 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Mine is probably not the answer you're wanting, but I bring it up for
completeness. You should know that you can ssh into your Mac and do that
way everything you can do from a Mac terminal prompt.

Clearly, that's not the same as getting a remote desktop, but it is very
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Simon Fogarty writes:

Hi List,

  I'm trying to find something to allow me to remotely admin my Mac machines, 
but when I try with the built in remote tools in either Yosemite or elcapitan 
voiceover doesn't give me any feedback via the remote connection.

  Does anyone know of a remote desktop tool that will allow for voiceover usage 
I guess similar to that of windows with jaws?

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Re: remote access

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Ironically one of the things you can’t do from the command-line on OS X is to 
update OS X Server, because that’s now delivered from the Mac App Store.  There 
are also some things which are possible from the command-line, only by editing 
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RE: remote access

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Janina,

 Thanks for this, yes I had thought of this but I'm not sure that would work 
well in a trouble shooting or desktop support role where the machine most 
likely wont have SSH enabled, but for my own machines it's probably a good idea.
Thanks though I might have a play with this tomorrow at work.

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Mine is probably not the answer you're wanting, but I bring it up for 
completeness. You should know that you can ssh into your Mac and do that way 
everything you can do from a Mac terminal prompt.

Clearly, that's not the same as getting a remote desktop, but it is very 
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Janina

Simon Fogarty writes:
> Hi List,
> 
>  I'm trying to find something to allow me to remotely admin my Mac machines, 
> but when I try with the built in remote tools in either Yosemite or elcapitan 
> voiceover doesn't give me any feedback via the remote connection.
> 
>  Does anyone know of a remote desktop tool that will allow for voiceover 
> usage I guess similar to that of windows with jaws?
> 
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Re: remote access for macs?

[Hank Smith]

as far as I know this doesn't ixist.
On 6/18/2012 1:33 PM, May and Noah wrote:

Hey there. I was wondering if the macs have remote access like with jaws? i 
need to help someone fix their mac and we're in two different locations of 
course. Do we have that capability? If so, can someone send me the steps on how 
to do so or where I should go look for that?

Thanks,
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Re: remote access for macs?

[John Panarese]

 The only way I know of is using screen sharing through iChat.  The thing 
is, the person has to have the volume loud enough to hear for VoiceOver on 
their end because you will have to listen to it through the connection.  You 
could use SSH in terminal, but you would have to know your way around the 
command line.


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 as far as I know this doesn't ixist.
 On 6/18/2012 1:33 PM, May and Noah wrote:
 Hey there. I was wondering if the macs have remote access like with jaws? i 
 need to help someone fix their mac and we're in two different locations of 
 course. Do we have that capability? If so, can someone send me the steps on 
 how to do so or where I should go look for that?
 
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Re: remote access on mac

[erik burggraaf]

I'm clammering for this as well.  Just out of curiosity I went to the app store 
and did a couple of searches.  I couldn't find a remote desktop app for $12.00, 
and none of the once I looked at listed sound card access as a feature.

Logmein pro does offer remote access to the sound card of a mac, but it's a 
windows app and highly inaccessible.  On top of that it's super expensive and 
needs to be licensed for the number of client computers you want to support.

I'm happy to pay since I'd make money charging for remote support, but I'd 
rather not have to use a windows 7/window-eyes virtual machine setup to 
remotely access mac computers.  Seems highly inefficient.

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On 2011-05-01, at 3:49 PM, Oriol Gómez wrote:

 Hello,
 A few days ago I heard mentioned an app here for accessible remote
 access which would transfer the audio of the target pc, and I wrote it
 down to my USB but I had a problem with it and the files on it
 disappeared. Would anyone who has heard about it tell me the name of
 this app? I think it was $12 on the mac app store.
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Re: remote access on mac

[Mike Hess]

Greetings:
Did you receive an anser to your remote access app question?
I'm in need of such an application as well.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
Mike.



2011/5/1 Oriol Gómez ogomez@gmail.com

 Hello,
 A few days ago I heard mentioned an app here for accessible remote
 access which would transfer the audio of the target pc, and I wrote it
 down to my USB but I had a problem with it and the files on it
 disappeared. Would anyone who has heard about it tell me the name of
 this app? I think it was $12 on the mac app store.
 Thanks.

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RE: remote access from IPod.

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah I'dlove to be able to rdp into my windows servers from my mbp.  Problem
is though, that the jaws screen reader currently needs to work through the
rdp connection. And I don't think that will work   on a mac machine  OSX
environment.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Thurman
Sent: Friday, 6 August 2010 12:41 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: remote access from IPod.

that would be awesome I'd love to be able to control my windows machine with
the mac I use a windows machine that does nothingbut run announcements for
the radio club and if i cold have complete control i could possibly relocate
this box to somewhere away from my house, another ham's place for example

On Aug 4, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

 Eah I'm a windows user more than a mac user and I've tried using the 
 Microsoft rdp client for the mac and also the rdp client for the ipod 
 at least one of the ipod rdp clients. And yeah, the ipod rdp clients 
 don't have audio enabled as was said. But that's only the free ones I've
tried.
 As for the rdp client for the mac, it works great with sound, allowing 
 jaws to be heard through the interface. But as jaws is not on the mac, 
 it isn't perfect sound and the interface is graphical. The only key press
I could use
 was alt tab and ctrl escape.   But what I'm currently working on with a co
 worker, who is sighted, is an ssh client with VO support / 
 accessibility that will allow for connection to a windows / server 
 machine and will allow for command line commands.
 
 An dif that works, then look at an rdp client  that lets VO see the 
 icons in the window rdp terminal window. And hopefully control them 
 with VO commands.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joel Zimba
 Sent: Wednesday, 4 August 2010 7:30 a.m.
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: remote access from IPod.
 
 I have been thinking this would be great to have myself.
 
 I've also heard that gotomypc works via ipad and iphone.  this is a 
 web-based thingie.
 I have also mused that getting braille to work through the network 
 wouldn't be so hard since it works so well via bluetooth.
 
 We live in interesting times and I would think this will be a very 
 desirable thing in thenear future.
 
 Joel
 
 On Jun 3, 2010, at 6:04 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
 
 Morning listers.
 
 I'm having crazy thoughts of laziness.
 
 I wondered if anyone has tried using an RDP / Remote   desktop connection
 tool between an Ipod touch and either a mac book pro or even better 
 in the case of my server, windows server 2k8?
 
 Some sighted friends have tried it and it works, but most rdp tools 
 for the ipod don't appear to have sound / audio enabled in them  and 
 I wondered if anyone has ever had a try at this  sort of thing.
 
 Thanks for any help on this. 
 
 Cheers
 
 Simon f
 
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Re: remote access from IPod.

[Michael Thurman]

that would be awesome I'd love to be able to control my windows machine with 
the mac I use a windows machine that does nothingbut run announcements for the 
radio club and if i cold have complete control i could possibly relocate this 
box to somewhere away from my house, another ham's place for example

On Aug 4, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

 Eah I'm a windows user more than a mac user and I've tried using the
 Microsoft rdp client for the mac and also the rdp client for the ipod at
 least one of the ipod rdp clients. And yeah, the ipod rdp clients don't have
 audio enabled as was said. But that's only the free ones I've tried.
 As for the rdp client for the mac, it works great with sound, allowing jaws
 to be heard through the interface. But as jaws is not on the mac, it isn't
 perfect sound and the interface is graphical. The only key press I could use
 was alt tab and ctrl escape.   But what I'm currently working on with a co
 worker, who is sighted, is an ssh client with VO support / accessibility
 that will allow for connection to a windows / server machine and will allow
 for command line commands.
 
 An dif that works, then look at an rdp client  that lets VO see the icons
 in the window rdp terminal window. And hopefully control them with VO
 commands.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joel Zimba
 Sent: Wednesday, 4 August 2010 7:30 a.m.
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: remote access from IPod.
 
 I have been thinking this would be great to have myself.
 
 I've also heard that gotomypc works via ipad and iphone.  this is a
 web-based thingie.
 I have also mused that getting braille to work through the network wouldn't
 be so hard since it works so well via bluetooth.
 
 We live in interesting times and I would think this will be a very desirable
 thing in thenear future.  
 
 Joel
 
 On Jun 3, 2010, at 6:04 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
 
 Morning listers.
 
 I'm having crazy thoughts of laziness.
 
 I wondered if anyone has tried using an RDP / Remote   desktop connection
 tool between an Ipod touch and either a mac book pro or even better in 
 the case of my server, windows server 2k8?
 
 Some sighted friends have tried it and it works, but most rdp tools 
 for the ipod don't appear to have sound / audio enabled in them  and I 
 wondered if anyone has ever had a try at this  sort of thing.
 
 Thanks for any help on this. 
 
 Cheers
 
 Simon f
 
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RE: remote access from IPod.

[Simon Fogarty]

Eah I'm a windows user more than a mac user and I've tried using the
Microsoft rdp client for the mac and also the rdp client for the ipod at
least one of the ipod rdp clients. And yeah, the ipod rdp clients don't have
audio enabled as was said. But that's only the free ones I've tried.
 As for the rdp client for the mac, it works great with sound, allowing jaws
to be heard through the interface. But as jaws is not on the mac, it isn't
perfect sound and the interface is graphical. The only key press I could use
was alt tab and ctrl escape.   But what I'm currently working on with a co
worker, who is sighted, is an ssh client with VO support / accessibility
that will allow for connection to a windows / server machine and will allow
for command line commands.

 An dif that works, then look at an rdp client  that lets VO see the icons
in the window rdp terminal window. And hopefully control them with VO
commands.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joel Zimba
Sent: Wednesday, 4 August 2010 7:30 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: remote access from IPod.

I have been thinking this would be great to have myself.

I've also heard that gotomypc works via ipad and iphone.  this is a
web-based thingie.
I have also mused that getting braille to work through the network wouldn't
be so hard since it works so well via bluetooth.

We live in interesting times and I would think this will be a very desirable
thing in thenear future.  

Joel

On Jun 3, 2010, at 6:04 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

 Morning listers.
 
 I'm having crazy thoughts of laziness.
 
 I wondered if anyone has tried using an RDP / Remote   desktop connection
 tool between an Ipod touch and either a mac book pro or even better in 
 the case of my server, windows server 2k8?
 
 Some sighted friends have tried it and it works, but most rdp tools 
 for the ipod don't appear to have sound / audio enabled in them  and I 
 wondered if anyone has ever had a try at this  sort of thing.
 
 Thanks for any help on this. 
 
 Cheers
 
 Simon f
 
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Re: remote access from IPod.

[Joel Zimba]

I have been thinking this would be great to have myself.

I've also heard that gotomypc works via ipad and iphone.  this is a web-based 
thingie.
I have also mused that getting braille to work through the network wouldn't be 
so hard since it works so well via bluetooth.

We live in interesting times and I would think this will be a very desirable 
thing in thenear future.  

Joel

On Jun 3, 2010, at 6:04 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

 Morning listers.
 
 I'm having crazy thoughts of laziness.
 
 I wondered if anyone has tried using an RDP / Remote   desktop connection
 tool between an Ipod touch and either a mac book pro or even better in the
 case of my server, windows server 2k8?
 
 Some sighted friends have tried it and it works, but most rdp tools for the
 ipod don't appear to have sound / audio enabled in them  and I wondered if
 anyone has ever had a try at this  sort of thing.
 
 Thanks for any help on this. 
 
 Cheers 
 
 Simon f
 
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RE: remote access / desktop support

[Bryan Smart]

I kind of made it work with IChat, but it was a real hack. First, you can't 
just connect in to any Mac that you own. Someone has to be sitting at it, 
logged in to IChat, and approve your connect request and your screen sharing 
(remote control) request  Then, you can control the other computer through your 
keyboard, but you only can hear what's going on by listening to their VoiceOver 
being recorded by their computer's microphone. This means that you must have 
voice chat going at the same time as screen sharing.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of James  Nash
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 4:10 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: remote access / desktop support

I'm just coming on to this thread, but I believe you can do this via IChat. Or 
at least you could.

TC
James, Lyn, Nash  Twinny
On 19 Apr 2010, at 20:16, Bryan Smart wrote:

 Yes, it would be great if we could remotely connect to other Macs with 
 speech. However, my main need is to be able to connect back to my Macs when 
 I'm not at home. If I have to install some 3rd-party tool, that's fine. If I 
 have to pay, that's fine. I just want to know if it can be done in any way.
 
 Bryan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 2:33 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: remote access / desktop support
 
 There was a thread about this a while back so check the archives. I believe 
 the tricky bit was audio and screen readers on the remote machine. Free 
 screen sharing tools like VNC pass keyboard/mouse events to a remote machine 
 and mirror that machine's display in a window on your machine. The systems 
 break in two places:
 
 1. Audio from the remote machine is often not mirrored back so whatever 
 speech is going on there won't be audible.
 
 2. Even if audio is mirrored back, the remote machine may not have a screen 
 reader installed so you'll still have to slog through that process.
 
 Probably #1 is the bigger issue and I thought somebody mentioned a screen 
 sharing package that did audio. Too bad about VNC since there is a VNC server 
 built into OSX. Anything else or any other OS will need the screen sharing 
 software installed on the remote box.
 
 CB
 
 Simon Fogarty wrote:
 Hi Listers.
 
 
 Being a fearly new mac user, I thought I'd ask the pro's,
 
  Is there any support from voice over for remote desktop access to 
 another mac machine?
 
 Or even better from a mac to a pc running windows xp or windows 7?
 I know there is an RDP mac client to ccess windows. But what about 
 mac to mac
 
 Any assistance much appreciated.
 
 Simon f
 
 
 
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Re: remote access / desktop support

[Dan Eickmeier]

THere is back to my mac, that  you'd get with  MObile me, but not sure how that 
is from  an accessibility prospective.  
On Apr 19, 2010, at 3:16 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:

 Yes, it would be great if we could remotely connect to other Macs with 
 speech. However, my main need is to be able to connect back to my Macs when 
 I'm not at home. If I have to install some 3rd-party tool, that's fine. If I 
 have to pay, that's fine. I just want to know if it can be done in any way.
 
 Bryan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 2:33 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: remote access / desktop support
 
 There was a thread about this a while back so check the archives. I believe 
 the tricky bit was audio and screen readers on the remote machine. Free 
 screen sharing tools like VNC pass keyboard/mouse events to a remote machine 
 and mirror that machine's display in a window on your machine. The systems 
 break in two places:
 
 1. Audio from the remote machine is often not mirrored back so whatever 
 speech is going on there won't be audible.
 
 2. Even if audio is mirrored back, the remote machine may not have a screen 
 reader installed so you'll still have to slog through that process.
 
 Probably #1 is the bigger issue and I thought somebody mentioned a screen 
 sharing package that did audio. Too bad about VNC since there is a VNC server 
 built into OSX. Anything else or any other OS will need the screen sharing 
 software installed on the remote box.
 
 CB
 
 Simon Fogarty wrote:
 Hi Listers.
 
 
 Being a fearly new mac user, I thought I'd ask the pro's,
 
  Is there any support from voice over for remote desktop access to another
 mac machine?
 
 Or even better from a mac to a pc running windows xp or windows 7?
 I know there is an RDP mac client to ccess windows. But what about mac to
 mac 
 
 Any assistance much appreciated.
 
 Simon f
 
 
 
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Re: remote access / desktop support

[Chris Blouch]

There was a thread about this a while back so check the archives. I 
believe the tricky bit was audio and screen readers on the remote 
machine. Free screen sharing tools like VNC pass keyboard/mouse events 
to a remote machine and mirror that machine's display in a window on 
your machine. The systems break in two places:


1. Audio from the remote machine is often not mirrored back so whatever 
speech is going on there won't be audible.


2. Even if audio is mirrored back, the remote machine may not have a 
screen reader installed so you'll still have to slog through that process.


Probably #1 is the bigger issue and I thought somebody mentioned a 
screen sharing package that did audio. Too bad about VNC since there is 
a VNC server built into OSX. Anything else or any other OS will need the 
screen sharing software installed on the remote box.


CB

Simon Fogarty wrote:

Hi Listers.


Being a fearly new mac user, I thought I'd ask the pro's,

  Is there any support from voice over for remote desktop access to another
mac machine?

Or even better from a mac to a pc running windows xp or windows 7?
I know there is an RDP mac client to ccess windows. But what about mac to
mac 


Any assistance much appreciated.

Simon f

  


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RE: remote access / desktop support

[Bryan Smart]

Yes, it would be great if we could remotely connect to other Macs with speech. 
However, my main need is to be able to connect back to my Macs when I'm not at 
home. If I have to install some 3rd-party tool, that's fine. If I have to pay, 
that's fine. I just want to know if it can be done in any way.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 2:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: remote access / desktop support

There was a thread about this a while back so check the archives. I believe the 
tricky bit was audio and screen readers on the remote machine. Free screen 
sharing tools like VNC pass keyboard/mouse events to a remote machine and 
mirror that machine's display in a window on your machine. The systems break in 
two places:

1. Audio from the remote machine is often not mirrored back so whatever speech 
is going on there won't be audible.

2. Even if audio is mirrored back, the remote machine may not have a screen 
reader installed so you'll still have to slog through that process.

Probably #1 is the bigger issue and I thought somebody mentioned a screen 
sharing package that did audio. Too bad about VNC since there is a VNC server 
built into OSX. Anything else or any other OS will need the screen sharing 
software installed on the remote box.

CB

Simon Fogarty wrote:
 Hi Listers.


 Being a fearly new mac user, I thought I'd ask the pro's,

   Is there any support from voice over for remote desktop access to another
 mac machine?

 Or even better from a mac to a pc running windows xp or windows 7?
 I know there is an RDP mac client to ccess windows. But what about mac to
 mac 

 Any assistance much appreciated.

 Simon f

   

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Re: remote access / desktop support

[James Nash]

I'm just coming on to this thread, but I believe you can do this via IChat. Or 
at least you could.

TC
James, Lyn, Nash  Twinny
On 19 Apr 2010, at 20:16, Bryan Smart wrote:

 Yes, it would be great if we could remotely connect to other Macs with 
 speech. However, my main need is to be able to connect back to my Macs when 
 I'm not at home. If I have to install some 3rd-party tool, that's fine. If I 
 have to pay, that's fine. I just want to know if it can be done in any way.
 
 Bryan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 2:33 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: remote access / desktop support
 
 There was a thread about this a while back so check the archives. I believe 
 the tricky bit was audio and screen readers on the remote machine. Free 
 screen sharing tools like VNC pass keyboard/mouse events to a remote machine 
 and mirror that machine's display in a window on your machine. The systems 
 break in two places:
 
 1. Audio from the remote machine is often not mirrored back so whatever 
 speech is going on there won't be audible.
 
 2. Even if audio is mirrored back, the remote machine may not have a screen 
 reader installed so you'll still have to slog through that process.
 
 Probably #1 is the bigger issue and I thought somebody mentioned a screen 
 sharing package that did audio. Too bad about VNC since there is a VNC server 
 built into OSX. Anything else or any other OS will need the screen sharing 
 software installed on the remote box.
 
 CB
 
 Simon Fogarty wrote:
 Hi Listers.
 
 
 Being a fearly new mac user, I thought I'd ask the pro's,
 
  Is there any support from voice over for remote desktop access to another
 mac machine?
 
 Or even better from a mac to a pc running windows xp or windows 7?
 I know there is an RDP mac client to ccess windows. But what about mac to
 mac 
 
 Any assistance much appreciated.
 
 Simon f
 
 
 
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Re: remote access / desktop support

[Chris Blouch]

Hmm, iChat didn't do the audio, at least not on 10.5. Maybe they fixed 
that in 10.6. There was another tool though. Just can't remember what it 
was.


CB

James  Nash wrote:

I'm just coming on to this thread, but I believe you can do this via IChat. Or 
at least you could.

TC
James, Lyn, Nash  Twinny
On 19 Apr 2010, at 20:16, Bryan Smart wrote:

  

Yes, it would be great if we could remotely connect to other Macs with speech. 
However, my main need is to be able to connect back to my Macs when I'm not at 
home. If I have to install some 3rd-party tool, that's fine. If I have to pay, 
that's fine. I just want to know if it can be done in any way.

Bryan

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Subject: Re: remote access / desktop support

There was a thread about this a while back so check the archives. I believe the 
tricky bit was audio and screen readers on the remote machine. Free screen 
sharing tools like VNC pass keyboard/mouse events to a remote machine and 
mirror that machine's display in a window on your machine. The systems break in 
two places:

1. Audio from the remote machine is often not mirrored back so whatever speech 
is going on there won't be audible.

2. Even if audio is mirrored back, the remote machine may not have a screen 
reader installed so you'll still have to slog through that process.

Probably #1 is the bigger issue and I thought somebody mentioned a screen 
sharing package that did audio. Too bad about VNC since there is a VNC server 
built into OSX. Anything else or any other OS will need the screen sharing 
software installed on the remote box.

CB

Simon Fogarty wrote:


Hi Listers.


Being a fearly new mac user, I thought I'd ask the pro's,

 Is there any support from voice over for remote desktop access to another
mac machine?

Or even better from a mac to a pc running windows xp or windows 7?
I know there is an RDP mac client to ccess windows. But what about mac to
mac 


Any assistance much appreciated.

Simon f


  

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Re: remote access / desktop support

[Rob Lambert]

If anyone can chime in, all I'm aware of is a service called Back to my
Mac - which allows you to access your Mac from a remote location, but I'm
not sure how it works, as I've never used it. There's also a utility that
Apple sells called Remote Desktop, which can allow you to remotely monitor,
and control, several machines at once. As to VoiceOver compatibility? I'm
not entirely sure. I'd ask around. I give you fair warning though. I just
checked, and Remote desktop's asking price is $299. Here's the link if you
want to see if it's worth it.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC171Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 3:09 AM, Simon Fogarty si...@blinky-net.com wrote:

 Hi Listers.


 Being a fearly new mac user, I thought I'd ask the pro's,

  Is there any support from voice over for remote desktop access to another
 mac machine?

 Or even better from a mac to a pc running windows xp or windows 7?
 I know there is an RDP mac client to ccess windows. But what about mac to
 mac

 Any assistance much appreciated.

 Simon f

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Re: remote access / desktop support

[Rob Lambert]

btw, I just checked - I saw a screenshot of a Vista machine on the site, so
perhaps Windows can be controlled, too. Like I said, hit the link for more
info if you're interested.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Rob Lambert rmlambert1...@gmail.comwrote:

 If anyone can chime in, all I'm aware of is a service called Back to my
 Mac - which allows you to access your Mac from a remote location, but I'm
 not sure how it works, as I've never used it. There's also a utility that
 Apple sells called Remote Desktop, which can allow you to remotely monitor,
 and control, several machines at once. As to VoiceOver compatibility? I'm
 not entirely sure. I'd ask around. I give you fair warning though. I just
 checked, and Remote desktop's asking price is $299. Here's the link if you
 want to see if it's worth it.
 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC171Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY

 On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 3:09 AM, Simon Fogarty si...@blinky-net.comwrote:

 Hi Listers.


 Being a fearly new mac user, I thought I'd ask the pro's,

  Is there any support from voice over for remote desktop access to another
 mac machine?

 Or even better from a mac to a pc running windows xp or windows 7?
 I know there is an RDP mac client to ccess windows. But what about mac to
 mac

 Any assistance much appreciated.

 Simon f

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