Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-23 Thread Phil Halton
 JAWS functions essential for full JAWS usability.
 
 I need full access to JAWS with Fusion or none at all at this point.  I 
 really really hate to resort to Bootcamp because the attractiveness of using 
 the Mac hinges upon use of a virtual machine for Windows for me.  I need 
 both and full access to both with the Macbook Air keyboard.  I do not want 
 to have to connect an external keyboard each time I need to use Windows.
 
 Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Also,
 
  You may want to consider using Keyremap4macbook and its PC counter part.  I 
 use this to turn my capslock key on the Mac into VO keys and on the virtual 
 machine it turns my caps lock into a insert key for PC screen readers. 
 
  Just another option to consider.
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 
 On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:44 AM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 That is correct.  You can download it on the mac, but it will have to be 
 installed on windows.
 
 On Aug 20, 2014, at 2:36 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 if memory serves it is a windows app
 hth
 Hank
 
 On 8/19/2014 9:47 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
 Is sharp keys a mac app, or something you download once in the vm?
 Thanks!
 Cait
 
 On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 That's why I prefer the sharp keys way.
 
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick
 efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to 
 contribute?
 Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are 
 always
 patient with you.
 Subscribe here: apple4beginners-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
 All are welcome!
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Taylor
 Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion
 
 Hi,
 
 Couple of points here. Firstly, if you delete all the built in 
 keystrokes,
 you have to do a lot of finger contortions that you don't actually need 
 to
 do, given that the mac keystrokes are much easier to reach than the 
 windows
 ones. I would advise people to keep them, they can actually come in 
 really
 handy. Secondly, and more importantly, if you swap the windows and alt 
 keys
 round in Windows, how can you command-tab away from Fusion, as command is
 now alt, so would give you the alt-tab keystroke in Windows? Yes, it 
 takes a
 little getting used to the fusion arrangement, but it gives you far more
 flexibility than doing this remapping does.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 17 Aug 2014, at 11:57, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
 Mapping keys in fusion
 
 First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while
 you
 often
 do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in
 1 of
 2
 ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as
 far as
 I'm
 aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface
 issue
 in
 fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys
 program.
 Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For
 example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or
 your right option key, to the windows insert.
 
 If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an
 insert
 key. If
 you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using
 the
 fusion
 keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion
 only allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command
 comma, and not on a per machine basis, command e.
 
 If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to
 be a
 local
 setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys
 modifies
 the
 windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same
 result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held
 down
 as if it
 were a modifier key for other keys.
 
 This answers your other issue, where caps lock cannot be used inside
 the virtual machine as a modifier. It works as  a caps lock, but you
 can't
 hold it
 down and press a letter inside the virtual machine, in order to give
 commands to your screen reader. Sharp keys and fusion itself though,
 will give you an insert key like the one on a normal windows
 computer. This
 lets
 you use insert rather than caps lock for your screen reader's
 commands, so let's concentrate on insert, and I will leave caps lock 
 for
 someone else.
 Now, let's look at the way you can do it inside fusion. I'm using
 fusion
 3.1.3,
 which is the latest version as of today. To update, go to the menu
 bar in fusion, vo m, then once right, then down to check for updates,
 and then follow the instructions.
 
 First, fire up fusion and, just to be certain

Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-23 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Hi,
I don't use jaw, but have you tried going into the preferences of fusion and 
turning off the Os 10 shortcuts?  This will make the computer send all your key 
strokes to the fusion side.. 
hth,
Caitlyn

On Aug 22, 2014, at 7:31 PM, gs geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm thinking about abandoning Fusion and using Bootcamp because I have not 
 found a way around the conflicts with OS X and JAWS laptop keyboard layout.  
 Is there anyone who has found a solution for Fusion
 that allows *all* the JAWS keys to be sent to JAWS and not captured by OS X?
 
 Sure, you can use Capslock + T to read the windows title.  However, I cannot 
 use many of the keys on the right side of the keyboard in conjunction with 
 capslock to perform many JAWS functions essential for full JAWS usability.
 
 I need full access to JAWS with Fusion or none at all at this point.  I 
 really really hate to resort to Bootcamp because the attractiveness of using 
 the Mac hinges upon use of a virtual machine for Windows for me.  I need both 
 and full access to both with the Macbook Air keyboard.  I do not want to have 
 to connect an external keyboard each time I need to use Windows.
 
 Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Also,
 
   You may want to consider using Keyremap4macbook and its PC counter 
 part.  I use this to turn my capslock key on the Mac into VO keys and on the 
 virtual machine it turns my caps lock into a insert key for PC screen 
 readers. 
 
   Just another option to consider.
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 
 On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:44 AM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 That is correct.  You can download it on the mac, but it will have to be 
 installed on windows.
 
 On Aug 20, 2014, at 2:36 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 if memory serves it is a windows app
 hth
 Hank
 
 On 8/19/2014 9:47 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
 Is sharp keys a mac app, or something you download once in the vm?
 Thanks!
 Cait
 
 On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's why I prefer the sharp keys way.
 
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick
 efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to 
 contribute?
 Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are 
 always
 patient with you.
 Subscribe here: apple4beginners-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
 All are welcome!
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Taylor
 Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion
 
 Hi,
 
 Couple of points here. Firstly, if you delete all the built in keystrokes,
 you have to do a lot of finger contortions that you don't actually need to
 do, given that the mac keystrokes are much easier to reach than the 
 windows
 ones. I would advise people to keep them, they can actually come in really
 handy. Secondly, and more importantly, if you swap the windows and alt 
 keys
 round in Windows, how can you command-tab away from Fusion, as command is
 now alt, so would give you the alt-tab keystroke in Windows? Yes, it 
 takes a
 little getting used to the fusion arrangement, but it gives you far more
 flexibility than doing this remapping does.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 17 Aug 2014, at 11:57, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
 Mapping keys in fusion
 
 First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while
 you
 often
 do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in
 1 of
 2
 ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as
 far as
 I'm
 aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface
 issue
 in
 fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys
 program.
 Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For
 example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or
 your right option key, to the windows insert.
 
 If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an
 insert
 key. If
 you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using
 the
 fusion
 keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion
 only allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command
 comma, and not on a per machine basis, command e.
 
 If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to
 be a
 local
 setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys
 modifies
 the
 windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same
 result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held
 down
 as if it
 were a modifier key for other keys.
 
 This answers your other issue, where caps lock cannot be used inside
 the virtual machine

Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-23 Thread gs
, then you should be able to 
 clear that up without any difficulty. Don't give up on fusion just yet. Once 
 you get it working you'll be glad you stuck with it. I wish I could help you 
 more but I just can't.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Aug 22, 2014, at 7:31 PM, gs geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm thinking about abandoning Fusion and using Bootcamp because I have not 
 found a way around the conflicts with OS X and JAWS laptop keyboard layout.  
 Is there anyone who has found a solution for Fusion
 that allows *all* the JAWS keys to be sent to JAWS and not captured by OS X?
 
 Sure, you can use Capslock + T to read the windows title.  However, I cannot 
 use many of the keys on the right side of the keyboard in conjunction with 
 capslock to perform many JAWS functions essential for full JAWS usability.
 
 I need full access to JAWS with Fusion or none at all at this point.  I 
 really really hate to resort to Bootcamp because the attractiveness of using 
 the Mac hinges upon use of a virtual machine for Windows for me.  I need 
 both and full access to both with the Macbook Air keyboard.  I do not want 
 to have to connect an external keyboard each time I need to use Windows.
 
 Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Also,
 
 You may want to consider using Keyremap4macbook and its PC counter part.  I 
 use this to turn my capslock key on the Mac into VO keys and on the virtual 
 machine it turns my caps lock into a insert key for PC screen readers. 
 
 Just another option to consider.
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 
 On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:44 AM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 That is correct.  You can download it on the mac, but it will have to be 
 installed on windows.
 
 On Aug 20, 2014, at 2:36 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 if memory serves it is a windows app
 hth
 Hank
 
 On 8/19/2014 9:47 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
 Is sharp keys a mac app, or something you download once in the vm?
 Thanks!
 Cait
 
 On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 That's why I prefer the sharp keys way.
 
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick
 efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to 
 contribute?
 Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are 
 always
 patient with you.
 Subscribe here: apple4beginners-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
 All are welcome!
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Taylor
 Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion
 
 Hi,
 
 Couple of points here. Firstly, if you delete all the built in 
 keystrokes,
 you have to do a lot of finger contortions that you don't actually need 
 to
 do, given that the mac keystrokes are much easier to reach than the 
 windows
 ones. I would advise people to keep them, they can actually come in 
 really
 handy. Secondly, and more importantly, if you swap the windows and alt 
 keys
 round in Windows, how can you command-tab away from Fusion, as command is
 now alt, so would give you the alt-tab keystroke in Windows? Yes, it 
 takes a
 little getting used to the fusion arrangement, but it gives you far more
 flexibility than doing this remapping does.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 17 Aug 2014, at 11:57, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
 Mapping keys in fusion
 
 First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while
 you
 often
 do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in
 1 of
 2
 ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as
 far as
 I'm
 aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface
 issue
 in
 fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys
 program.
 Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For
 example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or
 your right option key, to the windows insert.
 
 If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an
 insert
 key. If
 you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using
 the
 fusion
 keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion
 only allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command
 comma, and not on a per machine basis, command e.
 
 If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to
 be a
 local
 setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys
 modifies
 the
 windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same
 result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held
 down
 as if it
 were a modifier key for other keys.
 
 This answers your other issue, where caps lock cannot be used inside

Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-23 Thread Phil Halton
 to use the answer key. I've done that as well. I hope I 
 understand correctly you're having trouble with certain keys not being 
 passed to Jaws that seem to be getting grabbed by Mac or vice a versa. That 
 would be a problem within the global key Settings of fusion. If you look 
 around in those settings, and truly understand what how they work, then you 
 should be able to clear that up without any difficulty. Don't give up on 
 fusion just yet. Once you get it working you'll be glad you stuck with it. I 
 wish I could help you more but I just can't.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Aug 22, 2014, at 7:31 PM, gs geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm thinking about abandoning Fusion and using Bootcamp because I have not 
 found a way around the conflicts with OS X and JAWS laptop keyboard layout. 
  Is there anyone who has found a solution for Fusion
 that allows *all* the JAWS keys to be sent to JAWS and not captured by OS X?
 
 Sure, you can use Capslock + T to read the windows title.  However, I 
 cannot use many of the keys on the right side of the keyboard in 
 conjunction with capslock to perform many JAWS functions essential for full 
 JAWS usability.
 
 I need full access to JAWS with Fusion or none at all at this point.  I 
 really really hate to resort to Bootcamp because the attractiveness of 
 using the Mac hinges upon use of a virtual machine for Windows for me.  I 
 need both and full access to both with the Macbook Air keyboard.  I do not 
 want to have to connect an external keyboard each time I need to use 
 Windows.
 
 Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Also,
 
 You may want to consider using Keyremap4macbook and its PC counter part.  I 
 use this to turn my capslock key on the Mac into VO keys and on the virtual 
 machine it turns my caps lock into a insert key for PC screen readers. 
 
 Just another option to consider.
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 
 On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:44 AM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 That is correct.  You can download it on the mac, but it will have to be 
 installed on windows.
 
 On Aug 20, 2014, at 2:36 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 if memory serves it is a windows app
 hth
 Hank
 
 On 8/19/2014 9:47 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
 Is sharp keys a mac app, or something you download once in the vm?
 Thanks!
 Cait
 
 On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 That's why I prefer the sharp keys way.
 
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick
 efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to 
 contribute?
 Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are 
 always
 patient with you.
 Subscribe here: apple4beginners-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
 All are welcome!
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Taylor
 Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion
 
 Hi,
 
 Couple of points here. Firstly, if you delete all the built in 
 keystrokes,
 you have to do a lot of finger contortions that you don't actually need 
 to
 do, given that the mac keystrokes are much easier to reach than the 
 windows
 ones. I would advise people to keep them, they can actually come in 
 really
 handy. Secondly, and more importantly, if you swap the windows and alt 
 keys
 round in Windows, how can you command-tab away from Fusion, as command 
 is
 now alt, so would give you the alt-tab keystroke in Windows? Yes, it 
 takes a
 little getting used to the fusion arrangement, but it gives you far more
 flexibility than doing this remapping does.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 17 Aug 2014, at 11:57, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
 Mapping keys in fusion
 
 First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while
 you
 often
 do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in
 1 of
 2
 ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as
 far as
 I'm
 aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface
 issue
 in
 fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys
 program.
 Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For
 example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or
 your right option key, to the windows insert.
 
 If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an
 insert
 key. If
 you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using
 the
 fusion
 keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion
 only allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command
 comma, and not on a per machine basis, command e.
 
 If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going

Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-22 Thread gs
I'm thinking about abandoning Fusion and using Bootcamp because I have not 
found a way around the conflicts with OS X and JAWS laptop keyboard layout.  Is 
there anyone who has found a solution for Fusion
 that allows *all* the JAWS keys to be sent to JAWS and not captured by OS X?

Sure, you can use Capslock + T to read the windows title.  However, I cannot 
use many of the keys on the right side of the keyboard in conjunction with 
capslock to perform many JAWS functions essential for full JAWS usability.

I need full access to JAWS with Fusion or none at all at this point.  I really 
really hate to resort to Bootcamp because the attractiveness of using the Mac 
hinges upon use of a virtual machine for Windows for me.  I need both and full 
access to both with the Macbook Air keyboard.  I do not want to have to connect 
an external keyboard each time I need to use Windows.

Does anyone have any suggestions?





On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net wrote:

Also,

You may want to consider using Keyremap4macbook and its PC counter 
part.  I use this to turn my capslock key on the Mac into VO keys and on the 
virtual machine it turns my caps lock into a insert key for PC screen readers. 

Just another option to consider.

Eric Caron 


On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:44 AM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:

 That is correct.  You can download it on the mac, but it will have to be 
 installed on windows.
 
 On Aug 20, 2014, at 2:36 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 if memory serves it is a windows app
 hth
 Hank
 
 On 8/19/2014 9:47 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
 Is sharp keys a mac app, or something you download once in the vm?
 Thanks!
 Cait
 
 On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's why I prefer the sharp keys way.
 
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick
 efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to 
 contribute?
 Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are 
 always
 patient with you.
 Subscribe here: apple4beginners-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
 All are welcome!
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Taylor
 Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion
 
 Hi,
 
 Couple of points here. Firstly, if you delete all the built in keystrokes,
 you have to do a lot of finger contortions that you don't actually need to
 do, given that the mac keystrokes are much easier to reach than the windows
 ones. I would advise people to keep them, they can actually come in really
 handy. Secondly, and more importantly, if you swap the windows and alt keys
 round in Windows, how can you command-tab away from Fusion, as command is
 now alt, so would give you the alt-tab keystroke in Windows? Yes, it takes 
 a
 little getting used to the fusion arrangement, but it gives you far more
 flexibility than doing this remapping does.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 17 Aug 2014, at 11:57, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
 Mapping keys in fusion
 
 First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while
 you
 often
 do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in
 1 of
 2
 ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as
 far as
 I'm
 aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface
 issue
 in
 fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys
 program.
 Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For
 example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or
 your right option key, to the windows insert.
 
 If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an
 insert
 key. If
 you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using
 the
 fusion
 keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion
 only allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command
 comma, and not on a per machine basis, command e.
 
 If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to
 be a
 local
 setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys
 modifies
 the
 windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same
 result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held
 down
 as if it
 were a modifier key for other keys.
 
 This answers your other issue, where caps lock cannot be used inside
 the virtual machine as a modifier. It works as  a caps lock, but you
 can't
 hold it
 down and press a letter inside the virtual machine, in order to give
 commands to your screen reader. Sharp keys and fusion itself though,
 will give you an insert key like the one on a normal windows
 computer. This
 lets
 you use insert

Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-22 Thread Phil Halton
I honestly don't know what you're doing that's giving you all this trouble, but 
I can tell you that I use fusion Windows 7 and Mac without any trouble. I have 
remapped my grads accent key to be the Jaws modifier key, or the NVDA modifier 
key if that's what you use. I used the windows application called sharp keys to 
do the remapping. Sharkeys is a little funky and a little confusing at first, 
but it works fine once you do it. Other than this there is no reason why fusion 
shouldn't be working for you. Many dozens of people at least on this list are 
using windows with fusion and they don't report any problems same as you were 
having. I wish I could help you more, but I just don't know what to tell you. 
If you're using a standard install a fusion and you've installed windows, then 
you need only to remap a key for a modifier key for your screen reader and then 
you should be fine. You can also with infusion settings set some key to be an 
insert key and then tell your screen reader to use the answer key. I've done 
that as well. I hope I understand correctly you're having trouble with certain 
keys not being passed to Jaws that seem to be getting grabbed by Mac or vice a 
versa. That would be a problem within the global key Settings of fusion. If you 
look around in those settings, and truly understand what how they work, then 
you should be able to clear that up without any difficulty. Don't give up on 
fusion just yet. Once you get it working you'll be glad you stuck with it. I 
wish I could help you more but I just can't.

Sent from my IPhone


 On Aug 22, 2014, at 7:31 PM, gs geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm thinking about abandoning Fusion and using Bootcamp because I have not 
 found a way around the conflicts with OS X and JAWS laptop keyboard layout.  
 Is there anyone who has found a solution for Fusion
 that allows *all* the JAWS keys to be sent to JAWS and not captured by OS X?
 
 Sure, you can use Capslock + T to read the windows title.  However, I cannot 
 use many of the keys on the right side of the keyboard in conjunction with 
 capslock to perform many JAWS functions essential for full JAWS usability.
 
 I need full access to JAWS with Fusion or none at all at this point.  I 
 really really hate to resort to Bootcamp because the attractiveness of using 
 the Mac hinges upon use of a virtual machine for Windows for me.  I need both 
 and full access to both with the Macbook Air keyboard.  I do not want to have 
 to connect an external keyboard each time I need to use Windows.
 
 Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Also,
 
You may want to consider using Keyremap4macbook and its PC counter part.  
 I use this to turn my capslock key on the Mac into VO keys and on the virtual 
 machine it turns my caps lock into a insert key for PC screen readers. 
 
Just another option to consider.
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 
 On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:44 AM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 That is correct.  You can download it on the mac, but it will have to be 
 installed on windows.
 
 On Aug 20, 2014, at 2:36 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 if memory serves it is a windows app
 hth
 Hank
 
 On 8/19/2014 9:47 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
 Is sharp keys a mac app, or something you download once in the vm?
 Thanks!
 Cait
 
 On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's why I prefer the sharp keys way.
 
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick
 efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to 
 contribute?
 Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are 
 always
 patient with you.
 Subscribe here: apple4beginners-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
 All are welcome!
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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Taylor
 Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion
 
 Hi,
 
 Couple of points here. Firstly, if you delete all the built in keystrokes,
 you have to do a lot of finger contortions that you don't actually need to
 do, given that the mac keystrokes are much easier to reach than the 
 windows
 ones. I would advise people to keep them, they can actually come in really
 handy. Secondly, and more importantly, if you swap the windows and alt 
 keys
 round in Windows, how can you command-tab away from Fusion, as command is
 now alt, so would give you the alt-tab keystroke in Windows? Yes, it 
 takes a
 little getting used to the fusion arrangement, but it gives you far more
 flexibility than doing this remapping does.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 17 Aug 2014, at 11:57, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
 Mapping keys in fusion
 
 First off, it is true

Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-22 Thread gs
 Taylor
 Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion
 
 Hi,
 
 Couple of points here. Firstly, if you delete all the built in keystrokes,
 you have to do a lot of finger contortions that you don't actually need to
 do, given that the mac keystrokes are much easier to reach than the 
 windows
 ones. I would advise people to keep them, they can actually come in really
 handy. Secondly, and more importantly, if you swap the windows and alt 
 keys
 round in Windows, how can you command-tab away from Fusion, as command is
 now alt, so would give you the alt-tab keystroke in Windows? Yes, it 
 takes a
 little getting used to the fusion arrangement, but it gives you far more
 flexibility than doing this remapping does.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 17 Aug 2014, at 11:57, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
 Mapping keys in fusion
 
 First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while
 you
 often
 do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in
 1 of
 2
 ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as
 far as
 I'm
 aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface
 issue
 in
 fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys
 program.
 Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For
 example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or
 your right option key, to the windows insert.
 
 If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an
 insert
 key. If
 you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using
 the
 fusion
 keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion
 only allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command
 comma, and not on a per machine basis, command e.
 
 If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to
 be a
 local
 setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys
 modifies
 the
 windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same
 result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held
 down
 as if it
 were a modifier key for other keys.
 
 This answers your other issue, where caps lock cannot be used inside
 the virtual machine as a modifier. It works as  a caps lock, but you
 can't
 hold it
 down and press a letter inside the virtual machine, in order to give
 commands to your screen reader. Sharp keys and fusion itself though,
 will give you an insert key like the one on a normal windows
 computer. This
 lets
 you use insert rather than caps lock for your screen reader's
 commands, so let's concentrate on insert, and I will leave caps lock for
 someone else.
 Now, let's look at the way you can do it inside fusion. I'm using
 fusion
 3.1.3,
 which is the latest version as of today. To update, go to the menu
 bar in fusion, vo m, then once right, then down to check for updates,
 and then follow the instructions.
 
 First, fire up fusion and, just to be certain, have your virtual
 machines
 shut
 down. Then press command comma to open fusion's global preferences.
 
 At the top of this window is a toolbar. Interact with it and click
 keyboard and
 mouse. A new window will appear.
 
 The first thing you will encounter is a pop up button where you
 choose
 your
 keyboard and mouse profile. The window itself consists of 4 tab
 sheets,
 and
 all those settings together are stored in a keyboard and mouse
 profile. I don't think we will ever need a second profile, but that's
 what the button allows. Leave it at its default.
 
 The first tab sheet of this dialog,  named, key mappings, is where
 you can swap your windows logo and alt keys. By default, fusion will
 map your command key to the windows logo key, and your option key to
 the windows alt key. This is not very intuitive for those of us who
 are used to
 windows
 and its keyboard layout, but it's easy to swap them. See below. In
 this window, you will also be able to create your insert key inside
 fusion, and
 if
 you want, give yourself a numb lock toggle as well.
 
 If you look at this table, then many mac keys are mapped to some
 windows counterparts. Personally, I don't think that is necessary at
 all. For
 example,
 in windows, you use control plus c to copy an item to the clipboard.
 On
 the
 mac, we're used to pressing command plus c to copy. In fusion, there
 is a default key mapping that makes command c the equivalent of
 control c. In other words, pressing control c or command c in windows
 will do the same thing. This is non-standard windows tweaking I don't
 like, so what I did
 to
 begin with, is clear this entire list. To the right of this table,
 you
 have 2
 unlabeled buttons. The left one is add, and the right one is delete
 and
 entry
 in this table. Just focus on the right button of the 2, and hit vo
 space
 until
 the list is empty. You

Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-22 Thread David Taylor
 Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion
 
 Hi,
 
 Couple of points here. Firstly, if you delete all the built in 
 keystrokes,
 you have to do a lot of finger contortions that you don't actually need 
 to
 do, given that the mac keystrokes are much easier to reach than the 
 windows
 ones. I would advise people to keep them, they can actually come in 
 really
 handy. Secondly, and more importantly, if you swap the windows and alt 
 keys
 round in Windows, how can you command-tab away from Fusion, as command is
 now alt, so would give you the alt-tab keystroke in Windows? Yes, it 
 takes a
 little getting used to the fusion arrangement, but it gives you far more
 flexibility than doing this remapping does.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 17 Aug 2014, at 11:57, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
 Mapping keys in fusion
 
 First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while
 you
 often
 do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in
 1 of
 2
 ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as
 far as
 I'm
 aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface
 issue
 in
 fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys
 program.
 Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For
 example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or
 your right option key, to the windows insert.
 
 If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an
 insert
 key. If
 you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using
 the
 fusion
 keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion
 only allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command
 comma, and not on a per machine basis, command e.
 
 If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to
 be a
 local
 setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys
 modifies
 the
 windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same
 result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held
 down
 as if it
 were a modifier key for other keys.
 
 This answers your other issue, where caps lock cannot be used inside
 the virtual machine as a modifier. It works as  a caps lock, but you
 can't
 hold it
 down and press a letter inside the virtual machine, in order to give
 commands to your screen reader. Sharp keys and fusion itself though,
 will give you an insert key like the one on a normal windows
 computer. This
 lets
 you use insert rather than caps lock for your screen reader's
 commands, so let's concentrate on insert, and I will leave caps lock 
 for
 someone else.
 Now, let's look at the way you can do it inside fusion. I'm using
 fusion
 3.1.3,
 which is the latest version as of today. To update, go to the menu
 bar in fusion, vo m, then once right, then down to check for updates,
 and then follow the instructions.
 
 First, fire up fusion and, just to be certain, have your virtual
 machines
 shut
 down. Then press command comma to open fusion's global preferences.
 
 At the top of this window is a toolbar. Interact with it and click
 keyboard and
 mouse. A new window will appear.
 
 The first thing you will encounter is a pop up button where you
 choose
 your
 keyboard and mouse profile. The window itself consists of 4 tab
 sheets,
 and
 all those settings together are stored in a keyboard and mouse
 profile. I don't think we will ever need a second profile, but that's
 what the button allows. Leave it at its default.
 
 The first tab sheet of this dialog,  named, key mappings, is where
 you can swap your windows logo and alt keys. By default, fusion will
 map your command key to the windows logo key, and your option key to
 the windows alt key. This is not very intuitive for those of us who
 are used to
 windows
 and its keyboard layout, but it's easy to swap them. See below. In
 this window, you will also be able to create your insert key inside
 fusion, and
 if
 you want, give yourself a numb lock toggle as well.
 
 If you look at this table, then many mac keys are mapped to some
 windows counterparts. Personally, I don't think that is necessary at
 all. For
 example,
 in windows, you use control plus c to copy an item to the clipboard.
 On
 the
 mac, we're used to pressing command plus c to copy. In fusion, there
 is a default key mapping that makes command c the equivalent of
 control c. In other words, pressing control c or command c in windows
 will do the same thing. This is non-standard windows tweaking I don't
 like, so what I did
 to
 begin with, is clear this entire list. To the right of this table,
 you
 have 2
 unlabeled buttons. The left one is add, and the right one is delete
 and
 entry
 in this table. Just focus on the right button of the 2, and hit vo
 space
 until
 the list is empty. You will also

RE: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-21 Thread Bill Holton
Hi.
Are there instructions on how you can use both without conflicts?  When I
used the Mac version, it always kept the remaps in my VM Window.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Caron
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:35 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

Also,

You may want to consider using Keyremap4macbook and its PC counter
part.  I use this to turn my capslock key on the Mac into VO keys and on the
virtual machine it turns my caps lock into a insert key for PC screen
readers. 

Just another option to consider.

Eric Caron 


On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:44 AM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:

 That is correct.  You can download it on the mac, but it will have to be
installed on windows.
 
 On Aug 20, 2014, at 2:36 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 if memory serves it is a windows app
 hth
 Hank
 
 On 8/19/2014 9:47 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
 Is sharp keys a mac app, or something you download once in the vm?
 Thanks!
 Cait
 
 On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 That's why I prefer the sharp keys way.
 
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want
quick
 efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to
contribute?
 Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are
always
 patient with you.
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 All are welcome!
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Taylor
 Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion
 
 Hi,
 
 Couple of points here. Firstly, if you delete all the built in
keystrokes,
 you have to do a lot of finger contortions that you don't actually need
to
 do, given that the mac keystrokes are much easier to reach than the
windows
 ones. I would advise people to keep them, they can actually come in
really
 handy. Secondly, and more importantly, if you swap the windows and alt
keys
 round in Windows, how can you command-tab away from Fusion, as command
is
 now alt, so would give you the alt-tab keystroke in Windows? Yes, it
takes a
 little getting used to the fusion arrangement, but it gives you far
more
 flexibility than doing this remapping does.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 17 Aug 2014, at 11:57, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
 Mapping keys in fusion
 
 First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while
 you
 often
 do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in
 1 of
 2
 ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as
 far as
 I'm
 aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface
 issue
 in
 fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys
 program.
 Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For
 example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or
 your right option key, to the windows insert.
 
 If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an
 insert
 key. If
 you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using
 the
 fusion
 keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion
 only allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command
 comma, and not on a per machine basis, command e.
 
 If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to
 be a
 local
 setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys
 modifies
 the
 windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same
 result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held
 down
 as if it
 were a modifier key for other keys.
 
 This answers your other issue, where caps lock cannot be used inside
 the virtual machine as a modifier. It works as  a caps lock, but you
 can't
 hold it
 down and press a letter inside the virtual machine, in order to give
 commands to your screen reader. Sharp keys and fusion itself though,
 will give you an insert key like the one on a normal windows
 computer. This
 lets
 you use insert rather than caps lock for your screen reader's
 commands, so let's concentrate on insert, and I will leave caps lock
for
 someone else.
 Now, let's look at the way you can do it inside fusion. I'm using
 fusion
 3.1.3,
 which is the latest version as of today. To update, go to the menu
 bar in fusion, vo m, then once right, then down to check for updates,
 and then follow the instructions.
 
 First, fire up fusion and, just to be certain, have your virtual
 machines
 shut
 down. Then press command comma to open fusion's global preferences.
 
 At the top of this window is a toolbar. Interact with it and click

Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-20 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona

if memory serves it is a windows app
hth
Hank

On 8/19/2014 9:47 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:

Is sharp keys a mac app, or something you download once in the vm?
Thanks!
Cait

On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:


That's why I prefer the sharp keys way.

Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick
efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute?
Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always
patient with you.
Subscribe here: apple4beginners-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
All are welcome!
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Taylor
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

Hi,

Couple of points here. Firstly, if you delete all the built in keystrokes,
you have to do a lot of finger contortions that you don't actually need to
do, given that the mac keystrokes are much easier to reach than the windows
ones. I would advise people to keep them, they can actually come in really
handy. Secondly, and more importantly, if you swap the windows and alt keys
round in Windows, how can you command-tab away from Fusion, as command is
now alt, so would give you the alt-tab keystroke in Windows? Yes, it takes a
little getting used to the fusion arrangement, but it gives you far more
flexibility than doing this remapping does.

Cheers
Dave

On 17 Aug 2014, at 11:57, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:


Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
Mapping keys in fusion


First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while
you

often

do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in
1 of

2

ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as
far as

I'm

aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface
issue

in

fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys

program.

Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For
example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or
your right option key, to the windows insert.

If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an
insert

key. If

you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using
the

fusion

keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion
only allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command
comma, and not on a per machine basis, command e.

If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to
be a

local

setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys
modifies

the

windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same
result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held
down

as if it

were a modifier key for other keys.

This answers your other issue, where caps lock cannot be used inside
the virtual machine as a modifier. It works as  a caps lock, but you
can't

hold it

down and press a letter inside the virtual machine, in order to give
commands to your screen reader. Sharp keys and fusion itself though,
will give you an insert key like the one on a normal windows
computer. This

lets

you use insert rather than caps lock for your screen reader's
commands, so let's concentrate on insert, and I will leave caps lock for

someone else.

Now, let's look at the way you can do it inside fusion. I'm using
fusion

3.1.3,

which is the latest version as of today. To update, go to the menu
bar in fusion, vo m, then once right, then down to check for updates,
and then follow the instructions.

First, fire up fusion and, just to be certain, have your virtual
machines

shut

down. Then press command comma to open fusion's global preferences.

At the top of this window is a toolbar. Interact with it and click

keyboard and

mouse. A new window will appear.

The first thing you will encounter is a pop up button where you
choose

your

keyboard and mouse profile. The window itself consists of 4 tab
sheets,

and

all those settings together are stored in a keyboard and mouse
profile. I don't think we will ever need a second profile, but that's
what the button allows. Leave it at its default.

The first tab sheet of this dialog,  named, key mappings, is where
you can swap your windows logo and alt keys. By default, fusion will
map your command key to the windows logo key, and your option key to
the windows alt key. This is not very intuitive for those of us who
are used to

windows

and its keyboard layout, but it's easy to swap them. See below. In
this window, you will also be able to create your insert key inside
fusion, and

if

you want, give yourself a numb lock toggle as well.

If you look at this table, then many mac keys are mapped to some
windows counterparts. Personally, I don't think that is necessary at
all. For

example

Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-20 Thread Kliphton Senior
That is correct.  You can download it on the mac, but it will have to be 
installed on windows.

 On Aug 20, 2014, at 2:36 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 if memory serves it is a windows app
 hth
 Hank
 
 On 8/19/2014 9:47 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
 Is sharp keys a mac app, or something you download once in the vm?
 Thanks!
 Cait
 
 On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's why I prefer the sharp keys way.
 
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick
 efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute?
 Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always
 patient with you.
 Subscribe here: apple4beginners-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
 All are welcome!
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Taylor
 Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion
 
 Hi,
 
 Couple of points here. Firstly, if you delete all the built in keystrokes,
 you have to do a lot of finger contortions that you don't actually need to
 do, given that the mac keystrokes are much easier to reach than the windows
 ones. I would advise people to keep them, they can actually come in really
 handy. Secondly, and more importantly, if you swap the windows and alt keys
 round in Windows, how can you command-tab away from Fusion, as command is
 now alt, so would give you the alt-tab keystroke in Windows? Yes, it takes a
 little getting used to the fusion arrangement, but it gives you far more
 flexibility than doing this remapping does.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 17 Aug 2014, at 11:57, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
 Mapping keys in fusion
 
 First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while
 you
 often
 do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in
 1 of
 2
 ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as
 far as
 I'm
 aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface
 issue
 in
 fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys
 program.
 Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For
 example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or
 your right option key, to the windows insert.
 
 If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an
 insert
 key. If
 you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using
 the
 fusion
 keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion
 only allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command
 comma, and not on a per machine basis, command e.
 
 If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to
 be a
 local
 setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys
 modifies
 the
 windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same
 result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held
 down
 as if it
 were a modifier key for other keys.
 
 This answers your other issue, where caps lock cannot be used inside
 the virtual machine as a modifier. It works as  a caps lock, but you
 can't
 hold it
 down and press a letter inside the virtual machine, in order to give
 commands to your screen reader. Sharp keys and fusion itself though,
 will give you an insert key like the one on a normal windows
 computer. This
 lets
 you use insert rather than caps lock for your screen reader's
 commands, so let's concentrate on insert, and I will leave caps lock for
 someone else.
 Now, let's look at the way you can do it inside fusion. I'm using
 fusion
 3.1.3,
 which is the latest version as of today. To update, go to the menu
 bar in fusion, vo m, then once right, then down to check for updates,
 and then follow the instructions.
 
 First, fire up fusion and, just to be certain, have your virtual
 machines
 shut
 down. Then press command comma to open fusion's global preferences.
 
 At the top of this window is a toolbar. Interact with it and click
 keyboard and
 mouse. A new window will appear.
 
 The first thing you will encounter is a pop up button where you
 choose
 your
 keyboard and mouse profile. The window itself consists of 4 tab
 sheets,
 and
 all those settings together are stored in a keyboard and mouse
 profile. I don't think we will ever need a second profile, but that's
 what the button allows. Leave it at its default.
 
 The first tab sheet of this dialog,  named, key mappings, is where
 you can swap your windows logo and alt keys. By default, fusion will
 map your command key to the windows logo key, and your option key to
 the windows alt key. This is not very intuitive for those of us who
 are used to
 windows
 and its keyboard layout, but it's easy to swap them. See below

Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-20 Thread Eric Caron
Also,

You may want to consider using Keyremap4macbook and its PC counter 
part.  I use this to turn my capslock key on the Mac into VO keys and on the 
virtual machine it turns my caps lock into a insert key for PC screen readers. 

Just another option to consider.

Eric Caron 


On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:44 AM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:

 That is correct.  You can download it on the mac, but it will have to be 
 installed on windows.
 
 On Aug 20, 2014, at 2:36 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 if memory serves it is a windows app
 hth
 Hank
 
 On 8/19/2014 9:47 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
 Is sharp keys a mac app, or something you download once in the vm?
 Thanks!
 Cait
 
 On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's why I prefer the sharp keys way.
 
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick
 efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to 
 contribute?
 Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are 
 always
 patient with you.
 Subscribe here: apple4beginners-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
 All are welcome!
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Taylor
 Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion
 
 Hi,
 
 Couple of points here. Firstly, if you delete all the built in keystrokes,
 you have to do a lot of finger contortions that you don't actually need to
 do, given that the mac keystrokes are much easier to reach than the windows
 ones. I would advise people to keep them, they can actually come in really
 handy. Secondly, and more importantly, if you swap the windows and alt keys
 round in Windows, how can you command-tab away from Fusion, as command is
 now alt, so would give you the alt-tab keystroke in Windows? Yes, it takes 
 a
 little getting used to the fusion arrangement, but it gives you far more
 flexibility than doing this remapping does.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 17 Aug 2014, at 11:57, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
 Mapping keys in fusion
 
 First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while
 you
 often
 do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in
 1 of
 2
 ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as
 far as
 I'm
 aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface
 issue
 in
 fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys
 program.
 Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For
 example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or
 your right option key, to the windows insert.
 
 If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an
 insert
 key. If
 you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using
 the
 fusion
 keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion
 only allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command
 comma, and not on a per machine basis, command e.
 
 If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to
 be a
 local
 setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys
 modifies
 the
 windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same
 result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held
 down
 as if it
 were a modifier key for other keys.
 
 This answers your other issue, where caps lock cannot be used inside
 the virtual machine as a modifier. It works as  a caps lock, but you
 can't
 hold it
 down and press a letter inside the virtual machine, in order to give
 commands to your screen reader. Sharp keys and fusion itself though,
 will give you an insert key like the one on a normal windows
 computer. This
 lets
 you use insert rather than caps lock for your screen reader's
 commands, so let's concentrate on insert, and I will leave caps lock for
 someone else.
 Now, let's look at the way you can do it inside fusion. I'm using
 fusion
 3.1.3,
 which is the latest version as of today. To update, go to the menu
 bar in fusion, vo m, then once right, then down to check for updates,
 and then follow the instructions.
 
 First, fire up fusion and, just to be certain, have your virtual
 machines
 shut
 down. Then press command comma to open fusion's global preferences.
 
 At the top of this window is a toolbar. Interact with it and click
 keyboard and
 mouse. A new window will appear.
 
 The first thing you will encounter is a pop up button where you
 choose
 your
 keyboard and mouse profile. The window itself consists of 4 tab
 sheets,
 and
 all those settings together are stored in a keyboard and mouse
 profile. I don't think we will ever need a second profile, but that's
 what the button allows. Leave it at its

Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-19 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Is sharp keys a mac app, or something you download once in the vm?
Thanks!
Cait

On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's why I prefer the sharp keys way.
 
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick
 efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute?
 Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always
 patient with you.
 Subscribe here: apple4beginners-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
 All are welcome!
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Taylor
 Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion
 
 Hi,
 
 Couple of points here. Firstly, if you delete all the built in keystrokes,
 you have to do a lot of finger contortions that you don't actually need to
 do, given that the mac keystrokes are much easier to reach than the windows
 ones. I would advise people to keep them, they can actually come in really
 handy. Secondly, and more importantly, if you swap the windows and alt keys
 round in Windows, how can you command-tab away from Fusion, as command is
 now alt, so would give you the alt-tab keystroke in Windows? Yes, it takes a
 little getting used to the fusion arrangement, but it gives you far more
 flexibility than doing this remapping does.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 17 Aug 2014, at 11:57, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
 Mapping keys in fusion
 
 First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while 
 you
 often
 do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in 
 1 of
 2
 ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as 
 far as
 I'm
 aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface 
 issue
 in
 fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys
 program.
 Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For 
 example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or 
 your right option key, to the windows insert.
 
 If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an 
 insert
 key. If
 you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using 
 the
 fusion
 keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion 
 only allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command 
 comma, and not on a per machine basis, command e.
 
 If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to 
 be a
 local
 setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys 
 modifies
 the
 windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same
 result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held 
 down
 as if it
 were a modifier key for other keys.
 
 This answers your other issue, where caps lock cannot be used inside 
 the virtual machine as a modifier. It works as  a caps lock, but you 
 can't
 hold it
 down and press a letter inside the virtual machine, in order to give 
 commands to your screen reader. Sharp keys and fusion itself though, 
 will give you an insert key like the one on a normal windows 
 computer. This
 lets
 you use insert rather than caps lock for your screen reader's 
 commands, so let's concentrate on insert, and I will leave caps lock for
 someone else.
 
 Now, let's look at the way you can do it inside fusion. I'm using 
 fusion
 3.1.3,
 which is the latest version as of today. To update, go to the menu 
 bar in fusion, vo m, then once right, then down to check for updates, 
 and then follow the instructions.
 
 First, fire up fusion and, just to be certain, have your virtual 
 machines
 shut
 down. Then press command comma to open fusion's global preferences.
 
 At the top of this window is a toolbar. Interact with it and click
 keyboard and
 mouse. A new window will appear.
 
 The first thing you will encounter is a pop up button where you 
 choose
 your
 keyboard and mouse profile. The window itself consists of 4 tab 
 sheets,
 and
 all those settings together are stored in a keyboard and mouse 
 profile. I don't think we will ever need a second profile, but that's 
 what the button allows. Leave it at its default.
 
 The first tab sheet of this dialog,  named, key mappings, is where 
 you can swap your windows logo and alt keys. By default, fusion will 
 map your command key to the windows logo key, and your option key to 
 the windows alt key. This is not very intuitive for those of us who 
 are used to
 windows
 and its keyboard layout, but it's easy to swap them. See below. In 
 this window, you will also be able to create your insert key inside 
 fusion, and
 if
 you want, give yourself a numb lock toggle as well.
 
 If you look at this table, then many mac keys are mapped to some 
 windows counterparts. Personally, I don't think

Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-19 Thread Kliphton Senior
Its something you download directly in to the vm.

Kliphton
(iMessageEmail) m.kliph...@gmail.com
(TwitterSkype) kliphton72
(Personal blog, read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com
Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 19, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Is sharp keys a mac app, or something you download once in the vm?
 Thanks!
 Cait
 
 On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's why I prefer the sharp keys way.
 
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick
 efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute?
 Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always
 patient with you.
 Subscribe here: apple4beginners-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
 All are welcome!
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Taylor
 Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion
 
 Hi,
 
 Couple of points here. Firstly, if you delete all the built in keystrokes,
 you have to do a lot of finger contortions that you don't actually need to
 do, given that the mac keystrokes are much easier to reach than the windows
 ones. I would advise people to keep them, they can actually come in really
 handy. Secondly, and more importantly, if you swap the windows and alt keys
 round in Windows, how can you command-tab away from Fusion, as command is
 now alt, so would give you the alt-tab keystroke in Windows? Yes, it takes a
 little getting used to the fusion arrangement, but it gives you far more
 flexibility than doing this remapping does.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 17 Aug 2014, at 11:57, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
 Mapping keys in fusion
 
 First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while 
 you
 often
 do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in 
 1 of
 2
 ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as 
 far as
 I'm
 aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface 
 issue
 in
 fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys
 program.
 Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For 
 example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or 
 your right option key, to the windows insert.
 
 If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an 
 insert
 key. If
 you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using 
 the
 fusion
 keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion 
 only allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command 
 comma, and not on a per machine basis, command e.
 
 If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to 
 be a
 local
 setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys 
 modifies
 the
 windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same
 result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held 
 down
 as if it
 were a modifier key for other keys.
 
 This answers your other issue, where caps lock cannot be used inside 
 the virtual machine as a modifier. It works as  a caps lock, but you 
 can't
 hold it
 down and press a letter inside the virtual machine, in order to give 
 commands to your screen reader. Sharp keys and fusion itself though, 
 will give you an insert key like the one on a normal windows 
 computer. This
 lets
 you use insert rather than caps lock for your screen reader's 
 commands, so let's concentrate on insert, and I will leave caps lock for
 someone else.
 
 Now, let's look at the way you can do it inside fusion. I'm using 
 fusion
 3.1.3,
 which is the latest version as of today. To update, go to the menu 
 bar in fusion, vo m, then once right, then down to check for updates, 
 and then follow the instructions.
 
 First, fire up fusion and, just to be certain, have your virtual 
 machines
 shut
 down. Then press command comma to open fusion's global preferences.
 
 At the top of this window is a toolbar. Interact with it and click
 keyboard and
 mouse. A new window will appear.
 
 The first thing you will encounter is a pop up button where you 
 choose
 your
 keyboard and mouse profile. The window itself consists of 4 tab 
 sheets,
 and
 all those settings together are stored in a keyboard and mouse 
 profile. I don't think we will ever need a second profile, but that's 
 what the button allows. Leave it at its default.
 
 The first tab sheet of this dialog,  named, key mappings, is where 
 you can swap your windows logo and alt keys. By default, fusion will 
 map your command key to the windows logo key, and your option key to 
 the windows alt key. This is not very intuitive for those of us who 
 are used to
 windows
 and its keyboard layout

RE: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-18 Thread Bill Holton
HI.
If you swap the option and command key, all you have to do is press
CTRL-command, jwait a second, then command tab works just as usual.  You can
also press VO-D to get back to the desktop, the alt-command.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Taylor
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 5:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

Hi,

Couple of points here. Firstly, if you delete all the built in keystrokes,
you have to do a lot of finger contortions that you don't actually need to
do, given that the mac keystrokes are much easier to reach than the windows
ones. I would advise people to keep them, they can actually come in really
handy. Secondly, and more importantly, if you swap the windows and alt keys
round in Windows, how can you command-tab away from Fusion, as command is
now alt, so would give you the alt-tab keystroke in Windows? Yes, it takes a
little getting used to the fusion arrangement, but it gives you far more
flexibility than doing this remapping does.

Cheers
Dave

On 17 Aug 2014, at 11:57, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:

 Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
 Mapping keys in fusion
 
 First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while you
 often
 do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in 1 of
 2
 ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as far
as
 I'm
 aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface issue
 in
 fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys
 program.
 Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For
 example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or
 your right option key, to the windows insert.
 
 If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an
insert
 key. If
 you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using the
 fusion
 keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion only
 allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command comma, and not
 on a per machine basis, command e.
 
 If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to be a
 local
 setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys modifies
 the
 windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same
 result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held down
 as if it
 were a modifier key for other keys.
 
 This answers your other issue, where caps lock cannot be used inside the
 virtual machine as a modifier. It works as  a caps lock, but you can't
 hold it
 down and press a letter inside the virtual machine, in order to give
 commands to your screen reader. Sharp keys and fusion itself though, will
 give you an insert key like the one on a normal windows computer. This
 lets
 you use insert rather than caps lock for your screen reader's commands,
so
 let's concentrate on insert, and I will leave caps lock for someone else.
 
 Now, let's look at the way you can do it inside fusion. I'm using fusion
 3.1.3,
 which is the latest version as of today. To update, go to the menu bar in
 fusion, vo m, then once right, then down to check for updates, and then
 follow the instructions.
 
 First, fire up fusion and, just to be certain, have your virtual machines
 shut
 down. Then press command comma to open fusion's global preferences.
 
 At the top of this window is a toolbar. Interact with it and click
 keyboard and
 mouse. A new window will appear.
 
 The first thing you will encounter is a pop up button where you choose
 your
 keyboard and mouse profile. The window itself consists of 4 tab sheets,
 and
 all those settings together are stored in a keyboard and mouse profile. I
 don't think we will ever need a second profile, but that's what the
button
 allows. Leave it at its default.
 
 The first tab sheet of this dialog,  named, key mappings, is where you
can
 swap your windows logo and alt keys. By default, fusion will map your
 command key to the windows logo key, and your option key to the windows
 alt key. This is not very intuitive for those of us who are used to
 windows
 and its keyboard layout, but it's easy to swap them. See below. In this
 window, you will also be able to create your insert key inside fusion,
and
 if
 you want, give yourself a numb lock toggle as well.
 
 If you look at this table, then many mac keys are mapped to some windows
 counterparts. Personally, I don't think that is necessary at all. For
 example,
 in windows, you use control plus c to copy an item to the clipboard. On
 the
 mac, we're used to pressing command plus c to copy. In fusion, there is a
 default key mapping that makes command c the equivalent of control c. In
 other words, pressing control c or command c in windows will do the same
 thing. This is non-standard windows tweaking I don't like

RE: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-18 Thread Bill Holton
Thanks.  That was a big help.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Senior
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 6:57 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Remapping keys with VM fusion

Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
Mapping keys in fusion

 First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while you
often
 do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in 1 of
2
 ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as far as
I'm
 aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface issue
in
 fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys
program.
 Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For
 example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or
 your right option key, to the windows insert.
 
 If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an insert
key. If
 you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using the
fusion
 keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion only
 allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command comma, and not
 on a per machine basis, command e.
 
 If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to be a
local
 setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys modifies
the
 windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same
 result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held down
as if it
 were a modifier key for other keys.
 
 This answers your other issue, where caps lock cannot be used inside the
 virtual machine as a modifier. It works as  a caps lock, but you can't
hold it
 down and press a letter inside the virtual machine, in order to give
 commands to your screen reader. Sharp keys and fusion itself though, will
 give you an insert key like the one on a normal windows computer. This
lets
 you use insert rather than caps lock for your screen reader's commands, so
 let's concentrate on insert, and I will leave caps lock for someone else.
 
 Now, let's look at the way you can do it inside fusion. I'm using fusion
3.1.3,
 which is the latest version as of today. To update, go to the menu bar in
 fusion, vo m, then once right, then down to check for updates, and then
 follow the instructions.
 
 First, fire up fusion and, just to be certain, have your virtual machines
shut
 down. Then press command comma to open fusion's global preferences.
 
 At the top of this window is a toolbar. Interact with it and click
keyboard and
 mouse. A new window will appear.
 
 The first thing you will encounter is a pop up button where you choose
your
 keyboard and mouse profile. The window itself consists of 4 tab sheets,
and
 all those settings together are stored in a keyboard and mouse profile. I
 don't think we will ever need a second profile, but that's what the button
 allows. Leave it at its default.
 
 The first tab sheet of this dialog,  named, key mappings, is where you can
 swap your windows logo and alt keys. By default, fusion will map your
 command key to the windows logo key, and your option key to the windows
 alt key. This is not very intuitive for those of us who are used to
windows
 and its keyboard layout, but it's easy to swap them. See below. In this
 window, you will also be able to create your insert key inside fusion, and
if
 you want, give yourself a numb lock toggle as well.
 
 If you look at this table, then many mac keys are mapped to some windows
 counterparts. Personally, I don't think that is necessary at all. For
example,
 in windows, you use control plus c to copy an item to the clipboard. On
the
 mac, we're used to pressing command plus c to copy. In fusion, there is a
 default key mapping that makes command c the equivalent of control c. In
 other words, pressing control c or command c in windows will do the same
 thing. This is non-standard windows tweaking I don't like, so what I did
to
 begin with, is clear this entire list. To the right of this table, you
have 2
 unlabeled buttons. The left one is add, and the right one is delete and
entry
 in this table. Just focus on the right button of the 2, and hit vo space
until
 the list is empty. You will also delete the undesired alt and windows logo
 key mappings this way.
 
 Now, you must create your own mappings, so that your mac command key
 will become the alt key in windows, and so that your option key can become
 your windows logo key inside windows. Here's how to do it.
 
 First, click add, to add a new mapping to the table. This is the left
unlabeled
 button, to the right of the table. A new window appears, that you will
later
 close with an ok button to return here.
 
 In the new window, you see your mac modifier keys with checkboxes, and a
 combo box for an additional key. For example, you will hear shift
unchecked
 checkbox

Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-17 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Well I can do it so yes it can be done. I remember I had to vo-space on 
the combo box so it becomes a list. You then use standard arrow keys to 
find the key you want then I think you have to press return. Pretty sure 
I wrote a guide on this over at

www.applevis.com
and maybe to this list but can't remember as of now. But I know it can 
be done without apps like Sharp Keys.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 17/08/2014 04:58, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.
I am trying to remap the caps lock and  insert keys without using sharp  keys. 
I can get to the fusion remapping section, I can interact with the combo box 
with the additional keys. But when I cursor down to caps lock, or the  insert  
key, no matter how I try to activate it, I get a cap  A. Does anyone know if 
this can in fact be done, and what the trick to doing it with voiceover is?


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RE: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-17 Thread Kliphton Senior
 button. Nothing need to be changed here. Of course, you have your
 windows shift f10 key combination as the keyboard equivalent of the right
 mouse click. Furthermore, you can also create your own windows
 applications key, normally near your arrows on a windows keyboard, the
 same way you created your alt and windows keys above.
 
 The third tab sheet, named fusion shortcuts, can make life a lot easier
for
 us, screenless folks. By default, if you're inside the virtual machine and
you
 happen to hit f12, f11 or another magic mac key that does something under
 os10, then even if you are inside the vm, you will fly out of it, and land
 somewhere where you will need to turn on voiceover, command tab back
 into fusion, minimize windows with command control enter, move the
 voiceover cursor to where it says progress bar because that's where
 windows shows up minimized, turn off voice over with command f5, and
 finally enlarge windows back to normal with command control enter, the
 same keystroke used to minimize windows. A lot of work, and not funny if
 you discover that windows no longer talks and you don't know which key
 you hit by accident.
 
 So, what you do is, turn the checkbox off here that says: enable mac os
 keyboard shortcuts. Now, if you accidentally hit f12 or f11, it won't mess
up
 things any longer. These keystrokes will instead be passed to windows, and
 no longer to os10 disturbing your windows experience.
 
 In the fourth tab sheet of this dialog, named fusion shortcuts, you can
 enable and disable a number of key combinations that you can press when
 the virtual windows machine is running, that affect fusion itself. You can
 mess with these because there is a friendly restore to defaults button as
 well. You will find a table here that you can interact with. On each line,
a
 key combination is listed, along with a checkbox to enable it. Here's a
few
 explained.
 
 Full screen. You need this keystroke, to make windows full screen when it
is
 minimized. It is the control command enter to minimize and maximize
 windows, as already mentioned. Make sure you have this checked.
 There are nine others, and some of them I have turned off, for reasons
 explained below.
 
 Unity: this makes one space out of the windows desktop and the mac side.
 So far, I have never used it in daily work, because I can't figure out how
it
 works. If you play with it and find out some benefits, please let us know.
I
 have this off, to avoid accidentally dropping into unity.
 
 Also off are cycle through windows, and cycle through windows reverse.
 This is because we can easily do this with voiceover, and I don't want to
 loose keystrokes that may otherwise be used for jaws or NVDA commands.
 
 Next is hide application. I have this off as well, because if you're in
the
 middle of a windows program and you want help, it is likely that you begin
 by pressing alt h to open the help menu. But watch out for this one,
because
 if you don't turn off command h for the virtual machine, and remember that
 alt and command are now the same key, then instead of opening the help
 menu inside your windows program, you will instead hide fusion
 completely, and be dropped into os10 where you don't have speech for the
 moment unless you turn it on. I fell into this pit some 5 times until I
realized
 what might be going on here. Turning this key combination off resolved the
 issue. Now, pressing alt h will nicely open the help menu in windows, and
 you will no longer be kicked out.
 
 Next, there is hide others. I have this off, because it does something to
os10
 where I have no speech as long as I'm inside windows, and you want to let
 windows get your keystrokes as much as possible.
 
 The same goes for settings, the next key to turn off, which in fusion is
 command e. I hear you thinking. Usually command comma is for settings.
 Correct. However, command comma in fusion opens the general
 preferences for all virtual machines and fusion, while command e, as in
 echo, opens the settings for your specific virtual machine. How many
 processor cores to allocate it, how much ram etc. So, if windows wants you
 to press alt e, then you don't want to speechlessly land into fusion
settings.
 Rather, you want the alt e command to run in windows. Turn this off.
 
 The last key to turn of is command q for quit. Again, we don't have speech
 outside fusion so we can safely turn this off, so that command q, or alt q
for
 windows, is available to windows and not to fusion or os10.


Kliphton
~iMessageEmail~ m.kliph...@gmail.com
~TwitterSkype~ kliphton72
Personal blog-read at your own risk! http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:51 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

Well I can do it so yes it can be done. I remember I had to vo-space

Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-17 Thread David Taylor
 want to speechlessly land into fusion
 settings.
 Rather, you want the alt e command to run in windows. Turn this off.
 
 The last key to turn of is command q for quit. Again, we don't have speech
 outside fusion so we can safely turn this off, so that command q, or alt q
 for
 windows, is available to windows and not to fusion or os10.
 
 
 Kliphton
 ~iMessageEmail~ m.kliph...@gmail.com
 ~TwitterSkype~ kliphton72
 Personal blog-read at your own risk! http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hallsworth
 Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:51 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion
 
 Well I can do it so yes it can be done. I remember I had to vo-space on the
 combo box so it becomes a list. You then use standard arrow keys to find the
 key you want then I think you have to press return. Pretty sure I wrote a
 guide on this over at www.applevis.com and maybe to this list but can't
 remember as of now. But I know it can be done without apps like Sharp Keys.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu
 
 On 17/08/2014 04:58, Bill Holton wrote:
 Hi.
 I am trying to remap the caps lock and  insert keys without using sharp
 keys. I can get to the fusion remapping section, I can interact with the
 combo box with the additional keys. But when I cursor down to caps lock, or
 the  insert  key, no matter how I try to activate it, I get a cap  A. Does
 anyone know if this can in fact be done, and what the trick to doing it with
 voiceover is?
 
 
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RE: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-17 Thread Kliphton Senior
That's why I prefer the sharp keys way.

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Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

Hi,

Couple of points here. Firstly, if you delete all the built in keystrokes,
you have to do a lot of finger contortions that you don't actually need to
do, given that the mac keystrokes are much easier to reach than the windows
ones. I would advise people to keep them, they can actually come in really
handy. Secondly, and more importantly, if you swap the windows and alt keys
round in Windows, how can you command-tab away from Fusion, as command is
now alt, so would give you the alt-tab keystroke in Windows? Yes, it takes a
little getting used to the fusion arrangement, but it gives you far more
flexibility than doing this remapping does.

Cheers
Dave

On 17 Aug 2014, at 11:57, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:

 Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials.
 Mapping keys in fusion
 
 First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while 
 you
 often
 do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in 
 1 of
 2
 ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as 
 far as
 I'm
 aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface 
 issue
 in
 fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys
 program.
 Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For 
 example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or 
 your right option key, to the windows insert.
 
 If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an 
 insert
 key. If
 you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using 
 the
 fusion
 keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion 
 only allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command 
 comma, and not on a per machine basis, command e.
 
 If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to 
 be a
 local
 setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys 
 modifies
 the
 windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same
 result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held 
 down
 as if it
 were a modifier key for other keys.
 
 This answers your other issue, where caps lock cannot be used inside 
 the virtual machine as a modifier. It works as  a caps lock, but you 
 can't
 hold it
 down and press a letter inside the virtual machine, in order to give 
 commands to your screen reader. Sharp keys and fusion itself though, 
 will give you an insert key like the one on a normal windows 
 computer. This
 lets
 you use insert rather than caps lock for your screen reader's 
 commands, so let's concentrate on insert, and I will leave caps lock for
someone else.
 
 Now, let's look at the way you can do it inside fusion. I'm using 
 fusion
 3.1.3,
 which is the latest version as of today. To update, go to the menu 
 bar in fusion, vo m, then once right, then down to check for updates, 
 and then follow the instructions.
 
 First, fire up fusion and, just to be certain, have your virtual 
 machines
 shut
 down. Then press command comma to open fusion's global preferences.
 
 At the top of this window is a toolbar. Interact with it and click
 keyboard and
 mouse. A new window will appear.
 
 The first thing you will encounter is a pop up button where you 
 choose
 your
 keyboard and mouse profile. The window itself consists of 4 tab 
 sheets,
 and
 all those settings together are stored in a keyboard and mouse 
 profile. I don't think we will ever need a second profile, but that's 
 what the button allows. Leave it at its default.
 
 The first tab sheet of this dialog,  named, key mappings, is where 
 you can swap your windows logo and alt keys. By default, fusion will 
 map your command key to the windows logo key, and your option key to 
 the windows alt key. This is not very intuitive for those of us who 
 are used to
 windows
 and its keyboard layout, but it's easy to swap them. See below. In 
 this window, you will also be able to create your insert key inside 
 fusion, and
 if
 you want, give yourself a numb lock toggle as well.
 
 If you look at this table, then many mac keys are mapped to some 
 windows counterparts. Personally, I don't think that is necessary at 
 all. For
 example,
 in windows, you use control plus c to copy an item to the clipboard. 
 On
 the
 mac, we're used to pressing command plus c to copy. In fusion

Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-16 Thread Bill Holton
Hi.
I am trying to remap the caps lock and  insert keys without using sharp  keys. 
I can get to the fusion remapping section, I can interact with the combo box 
with the additional keys. But when I cursor down to caps lock, or the  insert  
key, no matter how I try to activate it, I get a cap  A. Does anyone know if 
this can in fact be done, and what the trick to doing it with voiceover is?


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Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion

2014-08-16 Thread Kliphton Senior
I had the same issue.  That's why I chose sharp keys.  Much easier to use.
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 On Aug 16, 2014, at 11:58 PM, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.
 I am trying to remap the caps lock and  insert keys without using sharp  
 keys. I can get to the fusion remapping section, I can interact with the 
 combo box with the additional keys. But when I cursor down to caps lock, or 
 the  insert  key, no matter how I try to activate it, I get a cap  A. Does 
 anyone know if this can in fact be done, and what the trick to doing it with 
 voiceover is?
 
 
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