Re: Speaking of Safari and Google

[Mike Arrigo]

If she is still running 10.5, it's definitely worth the upgrade to 10.6, that 
will solve the problem.
On Oct 2, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Justin Ekis wrote:

> Hi Genny,
> 
> I don't know what might be different in OSX10.5, but here are some things you 
> can try. This is all totally guesswork though.
> 
> I haven't seen this on google, but I have experienced other situations where 
> things that should have been clickable were not, and this trick helps 
> sometimes. While focused on the heading, try interacting with it. Since the 
> link element is inside the header element, this older voiceover may need to 
> interact with the heading to see it.
> 
> If that does not work, you could try running a nightly build of webkit. This 
> will include the newer accessibility fixes that made it into the version of 
> safari that came with OSX 10.6 and then some. Since it's a development 
> version, there's always a chance of instability but the recent builds work 
> fine for me. If it's a safari problem, this will solve it. If it's something 
> wrong with the older voiceover itself then it won't help.
> 
> The address for the nightly webkit builds is http://nightly.webkit.org
> 
> Hope you get this working.
> 
> Justin
> 
> On Oct 2, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the response.  While I am familiar with how to activate a link, 
> the problem appears to be that Safari simply doesn't seem to recognize the 
> area I need to activate as a link.  Therefore, using VO+space does nothing. I 
> don't know, seeing as how not many people are familiar with this particular 
> issue, I am beginning to wonder if it could have anything to do with the 
> version of OS I am running.  This machine has OS 10.56, which is certainly 
> not the latest and greatest.
> 
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Re: Speaking of Safari and Google

[Mike Arrigo]

I remember in 10.5, voice over would work that way. You would interact with the 
heading to see the link. In 10.6, you can simply click the link.
On Oct 2, 2010, at 8:28 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:

> that's weird.
> mine does the same thing, but all are clickable. of course, I am using SL 
> 10.6.4.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Oct 2, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
> 
>> Hi Nic,
>> 
>> Well, the odd thing is, the headers never say "link."  They do announce 
>> themselves as headings, but nothing more.  That is to say, it will say 
>> "heading level 3", followed by the name of the heading, but it's not 
>> clickible at all.
>> 
>> Jenny
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Re: Speaking of Safari and Google

[Jenny Wood]

Thanks for your reply, Recardo.  My goal is to upgrade, but  
unfortunately, this machine is not going to be suitable for doing so.   
I am doing what I can to save up the necessary funds for a new mac  
down the road.


Thanks!

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Re: Speaking of Safari and Google

[Ricardo Walker]

Yes,

You need to interact with the headers in order to activate the links in your 
google search.  I really recommend upgrading to Snow Leopard 10.6.  Your really 
missing out on a lot of functionality in terms of getting around the web.  It 
would be $30 well spent in my opinion.

hth
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> Justin,
> 
> Thanks for taking the time to respond.  Thankfully, it looks like interacting 
> with the heading does the trick.  I will need to play with it a bit more, but 
> hopefully this will have taken care of the problem.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
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Re: Speaking of Safari and Google

[Jenny Wood]

I am using DOM.

Thanks!

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Re: Speaking of Safari and Google

[Jenny Wood]

Justin,

Thanks for taking the time to respond.  Thankfully, it looks like  
interacting with the heading does the trick.  I will need to play with  
it a bit more, but hopefully this will have taken care of the problem.


Thank you!

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Re: Speaking of Safari and Google

[Mike Arrigo]

Are you using dom or group mode? This could make a difference.
On Oct 2, 2010, at 7:53 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:

> Hi Nic,
> 
> Well, the odd thing is, the headers never say "link."  They do announce 
> themselves as headings, but nothing more.  That is to say, it will say 
> "heading level 3", followed by the name of the heading, but it's not 
> clickible at all.
> 
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Re: Speaking of Safari and Google

[Jenny Wood]

Hi Allison.  Thanks for the suggestion.  Actually, I had tried VO+U,  
and for some reason, it still would not allow me to select the heading  
or link I desired.  Very strange animal, this mac.   But I am  
enjoying it so far for the most part.


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Re: Speaking of Safari and Google

[Justin Ekis]

Hi Genny,

I don't know what might be different in OSX10.5, but here are some things you 
can try. This is all totally guesswork though.

I haven't seen this on google, but I have experienced other situations where 
things that should have been clickable were not, and this trick helps 
sometimes. While focused on the heading, try interacting with it. Since the 
link element is inside the header element, this older voiceover may need to 
interact with the heading to see it.

If that does not work, you could try running a nightly build of webkit. This 
will include the newer accessibility fixes that made it into the version of 
safari that came with OSX 10.6 and then some. Since it's a development version, 
there's always a chance of instability but the recent builds work fine for me. 
If it's a safari problem, this will solve it. If it's something wrong with the 
older voiceover itself then it won't help.

The address for the nightly webkit builds is http://nightly.webkit.org

Hope you get this working.

Justin

On Oct 2, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:

Thanks for the response.  While I am familiar with how to activate a link, the 
problem appears to be that Safari simply doesn't seem to recognize the area I 
need to activate as a link.  Therefore, using VO+space does nothing. I don't 
know, seeing as how not many people are familiar with this particular issue, I 
am beginning to wonder if it could have anything to do with the version of OS I 
am running.  This machine has OS 10.56, which is certainly not the latest and 
greatest.

Jenny

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Re: Speaking of Safari and Google

[Eric Oyen]

that's weird.
mine does the same thing, but all are clickable. of course, I am using SL 
10.6.4.

-Eric
 
On Oct 2, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:

> Hi Nic,
> 
> Well, the odd thing is, the headers never say "link."  They do announce 
> themselves as headings, but nothing more.  That is to say, it will say 
> "heading level 3", followed by the name of the heading, but it's not 
> clickible at all.
> 
> Jenny
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Re: Speaking of Safari and Google

[Jenny Wood]

Hi Nic,

Well, the odd thing is, the headers never say "link."  They do  
announce themselves as headings, but nothing more.  That is to say, it  
will say "heading level 3", followed by the name of the heading, but  
it's not clickible at all.


Jenny

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Re: Speaking of Safari and Google

[Jenny Wood]

Thanks for the response.  While I am familiar with how to activate a  
link, the problem appears to be that Safari simply doesn't seem to  
recognize the area I need to activate as a link.  Therefore, using VO 
+space does nothing. I don't know, seeing as how not many people are  
familiar with this particular issue, I am beginning to wonder if it  
could have anything to do with the version of OS I am running.  This  
machine has OS 10.56, which is certainly not the latest and greatest.


Jenny

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Re: Speaking of Safari and Google

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You can do the same with headings as well. but what ever works.

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On Oct 2, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:

> Hi Jenny and all,
> 
> I had this same problem till I used the web roder. i just hit VO and U and it 
> displays the links. Then you can just VO space as was previously mentioned to 
> access the links. I hope that helps.
> 
> Musically,
> Allison
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> 
> On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
> 
>> Good day all.  So I have a question concerning accessing google through 
>> Safari, but thought it might stray a little off topic from the thread 
>> currently running.  Now I am a newbie to the mac world, so this may be sheer 
>> ignorance on my part, but might anyone have some idea as to why I cannot 
>> access my search results in google?  I haven't noticed this problem on other 
>> websites as of yet, but when performing a search in google, I find that the 
>> links that would normally be available to me to click on are listed only as 
>> headers, followed by an unlabeled button, followed by the brief blurb from 
>> the website I wish to access.  Being I use google for most of my web search 
>> needs, this is highly annoying.  I don't know if there is some nifty trick I 
>> need to perform with voiceover to make it happen, or if my search results 
>> are simply inaccessible.  There is always a link present to click on 
>> google's cached version of the page, but not for the page itself.
>> Thank you in advance for any assistance you can offer!
>> 
>> Jenny Wood
>> kc5...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Speaking of Safari and Google

[Allison Manzino]

Hi Jenny and all,

I had this same problem till I used the web roder. i just hit VO and U and it 
displays the links. Then you can just VO space as was previously mentioned to 
access the links. I hope that helps.

Musically,
Allison
 
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On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:

> Good day all.  So I have a question concerning accessing google through 
> Safari, but thought it might stray a little off topic from the thread 
> currently running.  Now I am a newbie to the mac world, so this may be sheer 
> ignorance on my part, but might anyone have some idea as to why I cannot 
> access my search results in google?  I haven't noticed this problem on other 
> websites as of yet, but when performing a search in google, I find that the 
> links that would normally be available to me to click on are listed only as 
> headers, followed by an unlabeled button, followed by the brief blurb from 
> the website I wish to access.  Being I use google for most of my web search 
> needs, this is highly annoying.  I don't know if there is some nifty trick I 
> need to perform with voiceover to make it happen, or if my search results are 
> simply inaccessible.  There is always a link present to click on google's 
> cached version of the page, but not for the page itself.
> Thank you in advance for any assistance you can offer!
> 
> Jenny Wood
> kc5...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: Speaking of Safari and Google

[Sarah Alawami]

or if you have it set to tone, you will hear heading level 2, boys to men, tone 
for example.
On Oct 2, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi Jenny!
> 
> Try hitting VO-Space on the heading. The link should be contained within the 
> heading. My VoiceOVer announces "Heading Level 2 Link".
> 
> At least, that's  how Google usually should work. That way, you vcan jump 
> from result to result by heading with VO-COmmand-H.
> 
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> On Oct 3, 2010, at 12:00 AM, Jenny Wood wrote:
> 
>> Good day all.  So I have a question concerning accessing google through 
>> Safari, but thought it might stray a little off topic from the thread 
>> currently running.  Now I am a newbie to the mac world, so this may be sheer 
>> ignorance on my part, but might anyone have some idea as to why I cannot 
>> access my search results in google?  I haven't noticed this problem on other 
>> websites as of yet, but when performing a search in google, I find that the 
>> links that would normally be available to me to click on are listed only as 
>> headers, followed by an unlabeled button, followed by the brief blurb from 
>> the website I wish to access.  Being I use google for most of my web search 
>> needs, this is highly annoying.  I don't know if there is some nifty trick I 
>> need to perform with voiceover to make it happen, or if my search results 
>> are simply inaccessible.  There is always a link present to click on 
>> google's cached version of the page, but not for the page itself.
>> Thank you in advance for any assistance you can offer!
>> 
>> Jenny Wood
>> kc5...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: Speaking of Safari and Google

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Hi Jenny!

Try hitting VO-Space on the heading. The link should be contained within the 
heading. My VoiceOVer announces "Heading Level 2 Link".

At least, that's  how Google usually should work. That way, you vcan jump from 
result to result by heading with VO-COmmand-H.

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On Oct 3, 2010, at 12:00 AM, Jenny Wood wrote:

> Good day all.  So I have a question concerning accessing google through 
> Safari, but thought it might stray a little off topic from the thread 
> currently running.  Now I am a newbie to the mac world, so this may be sheer 
> ignorance on my part, but might anyone have some idea as to why I cannot 
> access my search results in google?  I haven't noticed this problem on other 
> websites as of yet, but when performing a search in google, I find that the 
> links that would normally be available to me to click on are listed only as 
> headers, followed by an unlabeled button, followed by the brief blurb from 
> the website I wish to access.  Being I use google for most of my web search 
> needs, this is highly annoying.  I don't know if there is some nifty trick I 
> need to perform with voiceover to make it happen, or if my search results are 
> simply inaccessible.  There is always a link present to click on google's 
> cached version of the page, but not for the page itself.
> Thank you in advance for any assistance you can offer!
> 
> Jenny Wood
> kc5...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: Speaking of Safari and Google

[Sarah Alawami]

Just hit vo space on the link. they are links just like in othe rscreen reading 
software.

s
On Oct 2, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:

> Good day all.  So I have a question concerning accessing google through 
> Safari, but thought it might stray a little off topic from the thread 
> currently running.  Now I am a newbie to the mac world, so this may be sheer 
> ignorance on my part, but might anyone have some idea as to why I cannot 
> access my search results in google?  I haven't noticed this problem on other 
> websites as of yet, but when performing a search in google, I find that the 
> links that would normally be available to me to click on are listed only as 
> headers, followed by an unlabeled button, followed by the brief blurb from 
> the website I wish to access.  Being I use google for most of my web search 
> needs, this is highly annoying.  I don't know if there is some nifty trick I 
> need to perform with voiceover to make it happen, or if my search results are 
> simply inaccessible.  There is always a link present to click on google's 
> cached version of the page, but not for the page itself.
> Thank you in advance for any assistance you can offer!
> 
> Jenny Wood
> kc5...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Speaking of Safari and Google

[Jenny Wood]

Good day all.  So I have a question concerning accessing google  
through Safari, but thought it might stray a little off topic from the  
thread currently running.  Now I am a newbie to the mac world, so this  
may be sheer ignorance on my part, but might anyone have some idea as  
to why I cannot access my search results in google?  I haven't noticed  
this problem on other websites as of yet, but when performing a search  
in google, I find that the links that would normally be available to  
me to click on are listed only as headers, followed by an unlabeled  
button, followed by the brief blurb from the website I wish to  
access.  Being I use google for most of my web search needs, this is  
highly annoying.  I don't know if there is some nifty trick I need to  
perform with voiceover to make it happen, or if my search results are  
simply inaccessible.  There is always a link present to click on  
google's cached version of the page, but not for the page itself.

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Re: re-safari and google

[Howard Dupuis]

I've frequently had problems when using Google News. VO will crash,
restart, crash, restart, etc. If I quit Safari and try again, it might
be OK -- or not. Haven't, thankfully, encountered this problem when
using regular old Google.

chad baker wrote:
> Hi guys i'm having the same problem with google crashes vo.
> I changed my homepage to bing and everything is good.
> i'm getting webkit though.

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Re: Safari and Google?

[Sarah Alawami]

I've had no issues with the nightly builds. I've had a few crashes but it 
turned out google redirected to the wrong page. lol!
On Aug 24, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> The key bit is that the nightly builds also have the latest "undiscovered" 
> bugs. Anything discovered is usually fixed or in the queue to be fixed and 
> eventually Safari will inherit that work. It's the new bugs introduced by new 
> features or side effects from other bug fixes that make the nightly builds 
> not for everyone. Your mileage may vary from day to day. It is a nightly 
> build after all.
> 
> CB
> 
> Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>> Except in this case. lol! I have had safari crash more times then I would 
>> like to admit bu webkit does fine.
>> Sarah Alawami
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>> 
>> On Aug 23, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>> The webkit nightly builds have all the latest greatest fixes but can also 
>>> have the latest undiscovered bugs. Once all the known high-priority bugs 
>>> are fixed then Apple packages it up and puts out a new Safari release. So 
>>> Safari will always lag the webkit nightly builds, but it should also be 
>>> more stable.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 OH yeah same here. Webkit does not crash. Hmm why does the source code run 
 better thenwhat apple has?
 
 S
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> Hi,
> 
> Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. 
> I recently upgraded to the latest version of Safari. Whenever I go to 
> google.com and type in a search, Voiceover shuts off immediately when the 
> results page comes up.
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Re: Safari and Google?

[Chris Blouch]

The key bit is that the nightly builds also have the latest 
"undiscovered" bugs. Anything discovered is usually fixed or in the 
queue to be fixed and eventually Safari will inherit that work. It's the 
new bugs introduced by new features or side effects from other bug fixes 
that make the nightly builds not for everyone. Your mileage may vary 
from day to day. It is a nightly build after all.


CB

Sarah Alawami wrote:
Except in this case. lol! I have had safari crash more times then I 
would like to admit bu webkit does fine.

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On Aug 23, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

The webkit nightly builds have all the latest greatest fixes but can 
also have the latest undiscovered bugs. Once all the known 
high-priority bugs are fixed then Apple packages it up and puts out a 
new Safari release. So Safari will always lag the webkit nightly 
builds, but it should also be more stable.


CB

Sarah Alawami wrote:

OH yeah same here. Webkit does not crash. Hmm why does the source code run 
better thenwhat apple has?

S
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Hi,

Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. I recently 
upgraded to the latest version of Safari. Whenever I go to google.com 
 and type in a search, Voiceover shuts off immediately when 
the results page comes up.

Jesse

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Re: re-safari and google

[Scott Howell]

I have not logged into a Google account and generally I have not had any 
issues. I have notice some odd behavior, but jumping by headings seems to for 
some reason help in some situations.
Generally I am not experiencing many issues though.

On Aug 24, 2010, at 7:00 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:

> Signing in did not help for me. Resetting the browser does not seem to help 
> either. Bing does, but the results are so much less accurate. You can, for 
> some reason, use the widget to initiate a search though, and that works fine.
> On Aug 24, 2010, at 6:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Here lately, I have had not a single issue with 
>> 
>> www.google.com
>> crashing on me.  I suspect that this is because I've signed in to my Google 
>> account.  Somebody here speculated that this is why they too no longer have 
>> issues; and, judging by what I've seen thus far, I'd have to agree.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
>> 
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>> 
>> On Aug 24, 2010, at 4:08 AM, chad baker wrote:
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>> i'm getting webkit though.
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Re: re-safari and google

[Larry Skutchan]

Signing in did not help for me. Resetting the browser does not seem to help 
either. Bing does, but the results are so much less accurate. You can, for some 
reason, use the widget to initiate a search though, and that works fine.
On Aug 24, 2010, at 6:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Here lately, I have had not a single issue with 
> 
> www.google.com
> crashing on me.  I suspect that this is because I've signed in to my Google 
> account.  Somebody here speculated that this is why they too no longer have 
> issues; and, judging by what I've seen thus far, I'd have to agree.
> 
> 
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> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
> 
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> i'm getting webkit though.
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Re: re-safari and google

[Ray Foret Jr]

Here lately, I have had not a single issue with 

www.google.com
crashing on me.  I suspect that this is because I've signed in to my Google 
account.  Somebody here speculated that this is why they too no longer have 
issues; and, judging by what I've seen thus far, I'd have to agree.


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Hi guys i'm having the same problem with google crashes vo.
I changed my homepage to bing and everything is good.
i'm getting webkit though.

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re-safari and google

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Hi guys i'm having the same problem with google crashes vo.
I changed my homepage to bing and everything is good.
i'm getting webkit though.

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Re: Safari and Google?

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Except in this case. lol! I have had safari crash more times then I would like 
to admit bu webkit does fine.
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On Aug 23, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> The webkit nightly builds have all the latest greatest fixes but can also 
> have the latest undiscovered bugs. Once all the known high-priority bugs are 
> fixed then Apple packages it up and puts out a new Safari release. So Safari 
> will always lag the webkit nightly builds, but it should also be more stable.
> 
> CB
> 
> Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>> OH yeah same here. Webkit does not crash. Hmm why does the source code run 
>> better thenwhat apple has?
>> 
>> S
>> Sarah Alawami
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>> 
>> On Aug 17, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote:
>> 
>>   
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. I 
>>> recently upgraded to the latest version of Safari. Whenever I go to 
>>> google.com and type in a search, Voiceover shuts off immediately when the 
>>> results page comes up.
>>> 
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Re: Safari and Google?

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The webkit nightly builds have all the latest greatest fixes but can 
also have the latest undiscovered bugs. Once all the known high-priority 
bugs are fixed then Apple packages it up and puts out a new Safari 
release. So Safari will always lag the webkit nightly builds, but it 
should also be more stable.


CB

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Hi,

Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. I 
recently upgraded to the latest version of Safari. Whenever I go to google.com 
and type in a search, Voiceover shuts off immediately when the results page 
comes up.

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Re: Safari and Google?

[Sarah Alawami]

At least google are aware of it. I have not tested on reas safari but I do hope 
they get it fixed. I also reported the bug to apple in case tha thelps anything.

Take care.

S
On Aug 18, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Justin Kauflin wrote:

> Have you tried just doing a page refresh?  I've found that that helps the 
> issue.
> Justin
> On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni wrote:
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>> Hi Jesse,
>> Yes, google is aware of this problem and they are trying to solve it. In the 
>> meantime, you can use the google search box on the toolbar of safari. This 
>> is what I've been doing and it sitll works.
>> HTH,
>> Ronit
>> 
>> On Aug 17, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. I 
>>> recently upgraded to the latest version of Safari. Whenever I go to 
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>>> results page comes up.
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Re: Safari and Google?

[Justin Kauflin]

Have you tried just doing a page refresh?  I've found that that helps the issue.
Justin
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> Yes, google is aware of this problem and they are trying to solve it. In the 
> meantime, you can use the google search box on the toolbar of safari. This is 
> what I've been doing and it sitll works.
> HTH,
> Ronit
> 
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>> 
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Re: Safari and Google?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I have the same problem with google.

Kawal.

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> 
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Re: Safari and Google?

[Linda Adams]

Courtney,

Another method that seems a little easier to me, is to  press command L and 
arrow to the right two times which will put you  in a Google search field.


Even quicker is a short cut I learned from Esther, press command-option-F which 
will put you in a Google search field from anywhere in Safari.

HTH,
Linda

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> Courtney, make sure you are on the safari toolbar, the first button on the 
> toolbar is back. Arrow all the way to the right and there is a search box, 
> mine says google wehn I arrow to it. IF yours doesn't, it probably still is 
> the google search box.
> Ronit
> 
> On Aug 17, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I don't see where to search in the toolbar, I see a search field, but it 
>> doesn't say anything about google.
>> Courtney
>> Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays 
>> at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info
>> 
>> On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:40 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> That works great. Thank you for the suggestion.
>>> On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Jesse,
 Yes, google is aware of this problem and they are trying to solve it. In 
 the meantime, you can use the google search box on the toolbar of safari. 
 This is what I've been doing and it sitll works.
 HTH,
 Ronit
 
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> 
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> I recently upgraded to the latest version of Safari. Whenever I go to 
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> results page comes up.
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Re: Safari and Google?

[Pete Nalda]

Oh, ok, so It's a Google update issue, I'll keep my eye on it and see if it 
happens.  If it does, I'll go seek out webkit.  I sure hope Google fixes their 
content.

On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:54 PM, Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni wrote:

> Not everyone gets updated to the new google page at teh same time, it is 
> occurring with safari 5.0.1 but it is possibleyou have not received the new 
> version yet, as it is staggered over several days.
> Ronit
> 
> On Aug 17, 2010, at 6:50 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
> 
>> What version are you folks running?  I'm running v5.0.1 and I'm not having 
>> any crashes with Google results.
>> 
>> On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Carolyn wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Jesse:
>>> I had the same experience which prompted me to mess with trying to get 
>>> webkit working.  But, I'm pretty clueless whether it's even installed or 
>>> being used. 
>>> However, adding it to the mix seemed to stop the wierd behavior. 
>>> Carolyn- Original Message -
>>> From: Jesse Bollinger
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:26 PM
>>> Subject: Safari and Google?
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. I 
>>> recently upgraded to the latest version of Safari. Whenever I go to 
>>> google.com and type in a search, Voiceover shuts off immediately when the 
>>> results page comes up.
>>> 
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Re: Safari and Google?

[Gary]

cmd + r refreshes the page and fixes this.
Gary


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> Hi,
> 
> Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. I 
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> results page comes up.
> 
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Re: Safari and Google?

[Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni]

Not everyone gets updated to the new google page at teh same time, it is 
occurring with safari 5.0.1 but it is possibleyou have not received the new 
version yet, as it is staggered over several days.
Ronit

On Aug 17, 2010, at 6:50 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:

> What version are you folks running?  I'm running v5.0.1 and I'm not having 
> any crashes with Google results.
> 
> On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Carolyn wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jesse:
>> I had the same experience which prompted me to mess with trying to get 
>> webkit working.  But, I'm pretty clueless whether it's even installed or 
>> being used. 
>> However, adding it to the mix seemed to stop the wierd behavior. 
>> Carolyn- Original Message -
>> From: Jesse Bollinger
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:26 PM
>> Subject: Safari and Google?
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. I 
>> recently upgraded to the latest version of Safari. Whenever I go to 
>> google.com and type in a search, Voiceover shuts off immediately when the 
>> results page comes up.
>> 
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Re: Safari and Google?

[Sarah Alawami]

Ah thanks for that. I'll give it a try.

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> Courtney, make sure you are on the safari toolbar, the first button on the 
> toolbar is back. Arrow all the way to the right and there is a search box, 
> mine says google wehn I arrow to it. IF yours doesn't, it probably still is 
> the google search box.
> Ronit
> 
> On Aug 17, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I don't see where to search in the toolbar, I see a search field, but it 
>> doesn't say anything about google.
>> Courtney
>> Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays 
>> at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info
>> 
>> On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:40 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> That works great. Thank you for the suggestion.
>>> On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Jesse,
 Yes, google is aware of this problem and they are trying to solve it. In 
 the meantime, you can use the google search box on the toolbar of safari. 
 This is what I've been doing and it sitll works.
 HTH,
 Ronit
 
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> 
> Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. 
> I recently upgraded to the latest version of Safari. Whenever I go to 
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> 
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Re: Safari and Google?

[Pete Nalda]

What version are you folks running?  I'm running v5.0.1 and I'm not having any 
crashes with Google results.

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> Hi Jesse:
> I had the same experience which prompted me to mess with trying to get webkit 
> working.  But, I'm pretty clueless whether it's even installed or being used. 
> However, adding it to the mix seemed to stop the wierd behavior. 
> Carolyn- Original Message -
> From: Jesse Bollinger
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:26 PM
> Subject: Safari and Google?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. I 
> recently upgraded to the latest version of Safari. Whenever I go to 
> google.com and type in a search, Voiceover shuts off immediately when the 
> results page comes up.
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Re: Safari and Google?

[Sarah Alawami]

Can someone tell me how to bring that up again? I think I demolished the search 
box somehow.

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> Hi Jesse,
> Yes, google is aware of this problem and they are trying to solve it. In the 
> meantime, you can use the google search box on the toolbar of safari. This is 
> what I've been doing and it sitll works.
> HTH,
> Ronit
> 
> On Aug 17, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. I 
>> recently upgraded to the latest version of Safari. Whenever I go to 
>> google.com and type in a search, Voiceover shuts off immediately when the 
>> results page comes up.
>> 
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Re: Safari and Google?

[Sarah Alawami]

OH yeah same here. Webkit does not crash. Hmm why does the source code run 
better thenwhat apple has?

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> Hi,
> 
> Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. I 
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Re: Safari and Google?

[Carolyn]

Hi Jesse:
  I had the same experience which prompted me to mess with trying to get webkit 
working.  But, I'm pretty clueless whether it's even installed or being used.  
  However, adding it to the mix seemed to stop the wierd behavior.  
  Carolyn- Original Message - 
  From: Jesse Bollinger 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:26 PM
  Subject: Safari and Google?


  Hi,

  Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. I 
recently upgraded to the latest version of Safari. Whenever I go to google.com 
and type in a search, Voiceover shuts off immediately when the results page 
comes up.

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Re: Safari and Google?

[Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni]

Courtney, make sure you are on the safari toolbar, the first button on the 
toolbar is back. Arrow all the way to the right and there is a search box, mine 
says google wehn I arrow to it. IF yours doesn't, it probably still is the 
google search box.
Ronit

On Aug 17, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:

> Hi,
> I don't see where to search in the toolbar, I see a search field, but it 
> doesn't say anything about google.
> Courtney
> Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at 
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> 
> On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:40 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> That works great. Thank you for the suggestion.
>> On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Jesse,
>>> Yes, google is aware of this problem and they are trying to solve it. In 
>>> the meantime, you can use the google search box on the toolbar of safari. 
>>> This is what I've been doing and it sitll works.
>>> HTH,
>>> Ronit
>>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. 
 I recently upgraded to the latest version of Safari. Whenever I go to 
 google.com and type in a search, Voiceover shuts off immediately when the 
 results page comes up.
 
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Re: Safari and Google?

[Courtney Curran]

Hi,
I don't see where to search in the toolbar, I see a search field, but it 
doesn't say anything about google.
Courtney
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On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:40 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> That works great. Thank you for the suggestion.
> On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jesse,
>> Yes, google is aware of this problem and they are trying to solve it. In the 
>> meantime, you can use the google search box on the toolbar of safari. This 
>> is what I've been doing and it sitll works.
>> HTH,
>> Ronit
>> 
>> On Aug 17, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. I 
>>> recently upgraded to the latest version of Safari. Whenever I go to 
>>> google.com and type in a search, Voiceover shuts off immediately when the 
>>> results page comes up.
>>> 
>>> Jesse
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Re: Safari and Google?

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Hi,

That works great. Thank you for the suggestion.
On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni wrote:

> Hi Jesse,
> Yes, google is aware of this problem and they are trying to solve it. In the 
> meantime, you can use the google search box on the toolbar of safari. This is 
> what I've been doing and it sitll works.
> HTH,
> Ronit
> 
> On Aug 17, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. I 
>> recently upgraded to the latest version of Safari. Whenever I go to 
>> google.com and type in a search, Voiceover shuts off immediately when the 
>> results page comes up.
>> 
>> Jesse
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Re: Safari and Google?

[Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni]

Hi Jesse,
Yes, google is aware of this problem and they are trying to solve it. In the 
meantime, you can use the google search box on the toolbar of safari. This is 
what I've been doing and it sitll works.
HTH,
Ronit

On Aug 17, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. I 
> recently upgraded to the latest version of Safari. Whenever I go to 
> google.com and type in a search, Voiceover shuts off immediately when the 
> results page comes up.
> 
> Jesse
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Re: Safari and Google?

[Courtney Curran]

I've noticed the same thing. So I just use Yahoo.
Courtney
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On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:26 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. I 
> recently upgraded to the latest version of Safari. Whenever I go to 
> google.com and type in a search, Voiceover shuts off immediately when the 
> results page comes up.
> 
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Safari and Google?

[Jesse Bollinger]

Hi,

Not sure if this has been discussed but I figured I'd throw it out there. I 
recently upgraded to the latest version of Safari. Whenever I go to google.com 
and type in a search, Voiceover shuts off immediately when the results page 
comes up.

Jesse

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Re: safari and google search results

[Christina]

This happens to me sometimes and so I just interact with the heading  
and then it works for me.  I can then click on the link.

Christina
On Nov 24, 2009, at 8:53 AM, John G. Heim wrote:

> I have a problem with safari and google. When google search results  
> are
> displayed, the H3 headings for each result item are supposed to be  
> links.
> But they are not and I can't click on them.  This problem began  
> maybe 3
> weeks ago.
>
> What I have been doing is click the cache link. Google provides a  
> link to
> the original page in it's cached version. I can click on that or I can
> listen to the cached version. But, of course, it's a bit of an  
> inconvenience
> either way.
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safari and google search results

[John G. Heim]

I have a problem with safari and google. When google search results are 
displayed, the H3 headings for each result item are supposed to be links. 
But they are not and I can't click on them.  This problem began maybe 3 
weeks ago.

What I have been doing is click the cache link. Google provides a link to 
the original page in it's cached version. I can click on that or I can 
listen to the cached version. But, of course, it's a bit of an inconvenience 
either way.


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