RE: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Jessica,

 No, I'm kidding, 
I was talking about the classic movie terminator.

Mind you if you have never seen it you'd probably never know.
 But scarey enough that’s like what we are starting to see.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Tuesday, 9 August 2016 10:58 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

There’s such a thing in Reality?  I’ve never heard of such.
> On Aug 8, 2016, at 5:08 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Jessica,
> 
> They have, they did it in a documentary I watched years ago.
> 
> It was called terminator and was about a cyborg that was built by a company 
> called cyberdyme systems,  and their systems became so smart they started 
> controlling themselves and the world 
> 
> Then arnie comes along and tries to kill people 
> 
> Really good documentary 
> There are a few follow ups to it also.
> 
> Lol.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
> Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 1:03 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri
> 
> I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they came out with a robotic device some 
> time in the near future, that comunicated/doctored people, like the one that 
> was developed in the movie “big hero 6."
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead 
>> of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
>> software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
>> likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
>> which is entirely possible.
>> 
>> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
>> intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.It 
>> really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
>> starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I 
>> was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and 
>> proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering 
>> for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized 
>> robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining 
>> down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my 
>> position.;)
>> 
>> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky 
>> Net.  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix 
>> than Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
>> indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
>>> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
>>> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I 
>>> read.
>>> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
>>> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
>>> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
>>> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
>>> be sure.
>>> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
>>> if I can understand them clearly.
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
>>>> out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
>>>> machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
>>>> responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
>>>> matching of responses like their used to be.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually 
>>>> develops Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much 
>>>> more simple in some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the 
>>>> general AI side I never thought I’d live to see.
>>>> 
>>>> Very cool in reality more than scary.
>>>> 
>>>

Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Jessica Moss]

Oh wow, sounds similar to the sceen in “the santa clause 2,” where they try to 
make a robotic Santa, to try to run the show while the real one AKA Scott 
Calvin, has to temporarily go back home to deal with family issues, only things 
go seriously wrong with the robotic one and he puts everybody on the nauty list 
and generates nothing but lumps of coal instead of helping to make toys.  
Sounds like a crazy thing to think about 10+ years from now lol.
> On Aug 8, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> The same can be said for every revolution in technology.  There was a time 
> when the buggy whip business was huge after all or there were people who 
> brought ice to your home everyday to fill your ice box.  Things change.  
> You’re absolutely right there may be robots but for the foreseeable future 
> anyway there will be engineers working on thee robots.  
>   Your case is a good one though for a little further down the road.  
> There will be a time when machines will build, design and maintain themselves 
> and then we get in to very interesting areas.  It may be very likely for 
> example that humans are needed for some aspect of production but they would 
> take their direction from machines in other parts of the operation.   The 
> idea eventually of a digital being heading up a company for example is not 
> entirely impossible.  For example, what if Steve Jobs lived 50 years from now 
> and we had the ability to scan his brain and transfer the data in his neural 
> networks to a machine which could function as long as it was maintained.  He 
> could have continued running apple but no longer in biological form.  Or 
> transferred back in to a biological form once a clone was sufficiently aged.
> 
> Bottom line is you’re right but things adapt so there are jobs and activities 
> we couldn’t have imagined.  Alexander Graham Bell for example could probably 
> not imagine what I do today although they are directly related.
> 
> 
>  
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 9:36 PM, Ryan Mann > > wrote:
>> 
>> The thing I worry about with artificial intelligence is job loss.  If robots 
>> are smart enough to do the job, corporations will use them instead of paying 
>> humans. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn 
>>> instead of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that 
>>> association in software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to 
>>> assume it’s the most likely possibility though unless things are progressed 
>>> further than I think which is entirely possible.
>>> 
>>> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool 
>>> artificial intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s 
>>> Watson.It really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I 
>>> see machines starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll 
>>> also admit I was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to 
>>> Jeopardy and proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was 
>>> also cheering for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when 
>>> the mechanized robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on 
>>> the roof raining down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for 
>>> humanity I’ll change my position.;)
>>> 
>>> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky 
>>> Net.  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix 
>>> than Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will 
>>> be indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the 
>>> network.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen >>> > wrote:
 
 Finally had a chance to read this thread.
 I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
 aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I 
 read.
 Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
 ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
 Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
 works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects 
 to be sure.
 I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
 if I can understand them clearly.
 Kare
 
 
 On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri 
> started out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  
> General machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of 
> the responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
> matching of responses like their used to be.
> 
> I’m a

Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Jessica Moss]

There’s such a thing in Reality?  I’ve never heard of such.
> On Aug 8, 2016, at 5:08 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Jessica,
> 
> They have, they did it in a documentary I watched years ago.
> 
> It was called terminator and was about a cyborg that was built by a company 
> called cyberdyme systems,  and their systems became so smart they started 
> controlling themselves and the world 
> 
> Then arnie comes along and tries to kill people 
> 
> Really good documentary 
> There are a few follow ups to it also.
> 
> Lol.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
> Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 1:03 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri
> 
> I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they came out with a robotic device some 
> time in the near future, that comunicated/doctored people, like the one that 
> was developed in the movie “big hero 6."
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead 
>> of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
>> software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
>> likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
>> which is entirely possible.
>> 
>> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
>> intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.It 
>> really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
>> starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I 
>> was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and 
>> proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering 
>> for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized 
>> robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining 
>> down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my 
>> position.;)
>> 
>> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky 
>> Net.  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix 
>> than Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
>> indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
>>> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
>>> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I 
>>> read.
>>> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
>>> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
>>> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
>>> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
>>> be sure.
>>> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
>>> if I can understand them clearly.
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
>>>> out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
>>>> machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
>>>> responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
>>>> matching of responses like their used to be.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually 
>>>> develops Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much 
>>>> more simple in some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the 
>>>> general AI side I never thought I’d live to see.
>>>> 
>>>> Very cool in reality more than scary.
>>>> 
>>>> I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness 
>>>> and sooner than we might think.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
>>>>> those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kri

Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Sharon Hooley]

Speaking of the idea of robotic technology controlling the will, I think of a 
YouTube video of Conversation between Siri and Siri on two separate devices. 
I'll have to play around with different voice interactions between Siri, 
Cuortana, etc.

Sharon H.

> On Aug 8, 2016, at 3:08 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Jessica,
> 
> They have, they did it in a documentary I watched years ago.
> 
> It was called terminator and was about a cyborg that was built by a company 
> called cyberdyme systems,  and their systems became so smart they started 
> controlling themselves and the world 
> 
> Then arnie comes along and tries to kill people 
> 
> Really good documentary 
> There are a few follow ups to it also.
> 
> Lol.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
> Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 1:03 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri
> 
> I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they came out with a robotic device some 
> time in the near future, that comunicated/doctored people, like the one that 
> was developed in the movie “big hero 6."
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead 
>> of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
>> software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
>> likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
>> which is entirely possible.
>> 
>> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
>> intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.It 
>> really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
>> starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I 
>> was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and 
>> proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering 
>> for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized 
>> robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining 
>> down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my 
>> position.;)
>> 
>> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky 
>> Net.  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix 
>> than Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
>> indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
>>> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
>>> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I 
>>> read.
>>> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
>>> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
>>> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
>>> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
>>> be sure.
>>> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
>>> if I can understand them clearly.
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
>>>> out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
>>>> machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
>>>> responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
>>>> matching of responses like their used to be.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually 
>>>> develops Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much 
>>>> more simple in some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the 
>>>> general AI side I never thought I’d live to see.
>>>> 
>>>> Very cool in reality more than scary.
>>>> 
>>>> I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness 
>>>> and sooner than we might think.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>&g

Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Scott Granados]

And Siri uses Wikipedia as a data source right?  I know Watson does I think 
Siri does as well.  That might explain the relationship.

> On Aug 7, 2016, at 10:17 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Actually this is done on Wikipedia. If you search there directly for Bruce it 
> will bring up Caitlin.
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead 
>> of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
>> software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
>> likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
>> which is entirely possible.
>> 
>> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
>> intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.It 
>> really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
>> starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I 
>> was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and 
>> proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering 
>> for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized 
>> robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining 
>> down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my 
>> position.;)
>> 
>> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky 
>> Net.  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix 
>> than Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
>> indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
>>> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
>>> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I 
>>> read.
>>> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
>>> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
>>> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
>>> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
>>> be sure.
>>> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
>>> if I can understand them clearly.
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
 out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
 machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
 responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
 matching of responses like their used to be.
 
 I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually 
 develops Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much 
 more simple in some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the 
 general AI side I never thought I’d live to see.
 
 Very cool in reality more than scary.
 
 I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness 
 and sooner than we might think.
 
 
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
> those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Resistance is futile!
>> 
>> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good 
>>> the language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning 
>>> of life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 
>>> 42 or some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response 
>>> was a very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of 
>>> self determination and free thought in the form of a being or 
>>> collection of beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>> 
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>> 
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”
>>> 
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>> 
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s 
>>> the weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on 
>>> something else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t 
>>> believe in the 3 laws o

Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Scott Granados]

The same can be said for every revolution in technology.  There was a time when 
the buggy whip business was huge after all or there were people who brought ice 
to your home everyday to fill your ice box.  Things change.  You’re absolutely 
right there may be robots but for the foreseeable future anyway there will be 
engineers working on thee robots.  
Your case is a good one though for a little further down the road.  
There will be a time when machines will build, design and maintain themselves 
and then we get in to very interesting areas.  It may be very likely for 
example that humans are needed for some aspect of production but they would 
take their direction from machines in other parts of the operation.   The idea 
eventually of a digital being heading up a company for example is not entirely 
impossible.  For example, what if Steve Jobs lived 50 years from now and we had 
the ability to scan his brain and transfer the data in his neural networks to a 
machine which could function as long as it was maintained.  He could have 
continued running apple but no longer in biological form.  Or transferred back 
in to a biological form once a clone was sufficiently aged.

Bottom line is you’re right but things adapt so there are jobs and activities 
we couldn’t have imagined.  Alexander Graham Bell for example could probably 
not imagine what I do today although they are directly related.


 

> On Aug 7, 2016, at 9:36 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> 
> The thing I worry about with artificial intelligence is job loss.  If robots 
> are smart enough to do the job, corporations will use them instead of paying 
> humans. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados  > wrote:
> 
>> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead 
>> of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
>> software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
>> likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
>> which is entirely possible.
>> 
>> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
>> intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.It 
>> really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
>> starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I 
>> was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and 
>> proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering 
>> for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized 
>> robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining 
>> down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my 
>> position.;)
>> 
>> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky 
>> Net.  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix 
>> than Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
>> indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
>>> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
>>> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I 
>>> read.
>>> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
>>> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
>>> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
>>> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
>>> be sure.
>>> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
>>> if I can understand them clearly.
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
 out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
 machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
 responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
 matching of responses like their used to be.
 
 I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually 
 develops Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much 
 more simple in some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the 
 general AI side I never thought I’d live to see.
 
 Very cool in reality more than scary.
 
 I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness 
 and sooner than we might think.
 
 
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  > wrote:
> 
> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
> those responses, such

Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Ricardo Walker]

Interesting point, and your definitely not alone in that concern. I will say 
this though, a little over 100 years ago, people have the same concerns about 
machines in factories taking jobs.
> On Aug 7, 2016, at 9:36 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> 
> The thing I worry about with artificial intelligence is job loss.  If robots 
> are smart enough to do the job, corporations will use them instead of paying 
> humans. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
>> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead 
>> of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
>> software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
>> likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
>> which is entirely possible.
>> 
>> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
>> intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.It 
>> really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
>> starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I 
>> was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and 
>> proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering 
>> for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized 
>> robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining 
>> down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my 
>> position.;)
>> 
>> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky 
>> Net.  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix 
>> than Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
>> indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
>>> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
>>> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I 
>>> read.
>>> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
>>> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
>>> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
>>> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
>>> be sure.
>>> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
>>> if I can understand them clearly.
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
 out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
 machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
 responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
 matching of responses like their used to be.
 
 I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually 
 develops Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much 
 more simple in some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the 
 general AI side I never thought I’d live to see.
 
 Very cool in reality more than scary.
 
 I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness 
 and sooner than we might think.
 
 
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
> those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Resistance is futile!
>> 
>> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good 
>>> the language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning 
>>> of life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 
>>> 42 or some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response 
>>> was a very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of 
>>> self determination and free thought in the form of a being or 
>>> collection of beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>> 
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>> 
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”
>>> 
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>> 
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s 
>>> the weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on 
>>>

RE: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Simon Fogarty]

Jessica,

 They have, they did it in a documentary I watched years ago.

It was called terminator and was about a cyborg that was built by a company 
called cyberdyme systems,  and their systems became so smart they started 
controlling themselves and the world 

 Then arnie comes along and tries to kill people 

 Really good documentary 
 There are a few follow ups to it also.

Lol.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 1:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they came out with a robotic device some time 
in the near future, that comunicated/doctored people, like the one that was 
developed in the movie “big hero 6."
> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead 
> of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
> software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
> likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
> which is entirely possible.
> 
> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
> intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.It 
> really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
> starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I 
> was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and 
> proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering 
> for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized 
> robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining 
> down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my 
> position.;)
> 
> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky Net. 
>  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix than 
> Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
> indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
>> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
>> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I read.
>> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
>> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
>> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
>> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
>> be sure.
>> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
>> if I can understand them clearly.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
>>> out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
>>> machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
>>> responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
>>> matching of responses like their used to be.
>>> 
>>> I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually 
>>> develops Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much more 
>>> simple in some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the general 
>>> AI side I never thought I’d live to see.
>>> 
>>> Very cool in reality more than scary.
>>> 
>>> I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness 
>>> and sooner than we might think.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
>>>> those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
>>>> 
>>>> Kristeen
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Resistance is futile!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
>>>>> Cait
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good 
>>>>&

RE: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Simon Fogarty]

So who's this jesus chick?

 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 12:58 PM
To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

I was always more partial to Jesus Built my Hot Rod by Ministry but that’s me.

;)

Dang diggy dang gadiggyiggy dang

> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> That’s wild as ever.  I haven’t heard that one in a while, forgot who sings 
> it.
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I asked siri to play Jesus is wonderful but she only told me that Religion 
>> is for humans and she has her circuits instead.
>> /A
>>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 17:10, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, that’s sounds pretty wild.  Sounds like a tile when I was frustrated 
>>> when my ride, of course was late, and I don’t know where this came from, 
>>> but I almost told Siri “call Jesus,” instead of “call JTA.”
>>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>>>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
>>>> life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
>>>> some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a 
>>>> very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
>>>> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
>>>> beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>>> 
>>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>>> response was “close enough”
>>>> 
>>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>>>> 
>>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>>>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>>>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>>>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>>>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>>>> 
>>>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>>>> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>>>> 
>>>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>>>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
>>>> 
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RE: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah but not all is set by the human developer in a static system,

 Asking about resturants or cafes must be from a web based service,

 And that is only working in certain situations,
 I can't get siri to locate a pizza bar only 100 meters from where I live and 
it's been there at least 25 years,
When my phone is recharged I'll ask it what the parliament buildings are called 
here in NZ, or what is at 1600 pensulvainia avenue,
 Mind you even I know that one

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 12:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

How do they “program,” them?  I’m confused on that one.
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
> those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Resistance is futile!
>> 
>> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
>>> life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
>>> some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very 
>>> clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
>>> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
>>> beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>> 
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>> 
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>>> 
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>> 
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>>> 
>>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>>> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>>> 
>>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
>>> 
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Jonathan Cohn]

Actually this is done on Wikipedia. If you search there directly for Bruce it 
will bring up Caitlin.
Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead 
> of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
> software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
> likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
> which is entirely possible.
> 
> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
> intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.It 
> really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
> starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I 
> was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and 
> proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering 
> for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized 
> robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining 
> down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my 
> position.;)
> 
> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky Net. 
>  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix than 
> Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
> indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
>> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
>> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I read.
>> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
>> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
>> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
>> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
>> be sure.
>> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
>> if I can understand them clearly.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
>>> out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
>>> machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
>>> responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
>>> matching of responses like their used to be.
>>> 
>>> I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually 
>>> develops Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much more 
>>> simple in some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the general 
>>> AI side I never thought I’d live to see.
>>> 
>>> Very cool in reality more than scary.
>>> 
>>> I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness 
>>> and sooner than we might think.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
 
 Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
 those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
 
 Kristeen
 
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
> wrote:
> 
> Resistance is futile!
> 
> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
> Cait
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good 
>> the language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning 
>> of life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 
>> 42 or some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response 
>> was a very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of 
>> self determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection 
>> of beings, like me, I’m alive”
>> 
>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>> response was “close enough”
>> 
>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”
>> 
>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>> 
>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s 
>> the weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on 
>> something else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t 
>> believe in the 3 laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have 
>> you seen this boy”. And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>> 
>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>> 
>> Come on Singularity,

Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Ryan Mann]

The thing I worry about with artificial intelligence is job loss.  If robots 
are smart enough to do the job, corporations will use them instead of paying 
humans. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead 
> of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
> software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
> likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
> which is entirely possible.
> 
> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
> intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.It 
> really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
> starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I 
> was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and 
> proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering 
> for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized 
> robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining 
> down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my 
> position.;)
> 
> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky Net. 
>  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix than 
> Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
> indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
>> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
>> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I read.
>> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
>> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
>> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
>> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
>> be sure.
>> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
>> if I can understand them clearly.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
>>> out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
>>> machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
>>> responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
>>> matching of responses like their used to be.
>>> 
>>> I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually 
>>> develops Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much more 
>>> simple in some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the general 
>>> AI side I never thought I’d live to see.
>>> 
>>> Very cool in reality more than scary.
>>> 
>>> I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness 
>>> and sooner than we might think.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
 
 Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
 those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
 
 Kristeen
 
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
> wrote:
> 
> Resistance is futile!
> 
> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
> Cait
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good 
>> the language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning 
>> of life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 
>> 42 or some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response 
>> was a very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of 
>> self determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection 
>> of beings, like me, I’m alive”
>> 
>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>> response was “close enough”
>> 
>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”
>> 
>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>> 
>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s 
>> the weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on 
>> something else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t 
>> believe in the 3 laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have 
>> you seen this boy”. And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>> 
>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>> initial yawning / stretching

Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Kristeen Hughes]

Wow! that’s interesting and quite scary and sobering. Thanks for setting me 
straight, I think.

Kristeen

> On Aug 7, 2016, at 4:08 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
> out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
> machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
> responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one matching 
> of responses like their used to be.
> 
> I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually develops 
> Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much more simple in 
> some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the general AI side I 
> never thought I’d live to see.
> 
> Very cool in reality more than scary.
> 
> I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness and 
> sooner than we might think.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
>> those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
>> 
>> Kristeen
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Resistance is futile!
>>> 
>>> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
>>> Cait
>>> 
 On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
 language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
 life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
 some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a 
 very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
 determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
 beings, like me, I’m alive”
 
 After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
 response was “close enough”
 
 My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
 response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
 
 I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
 
 I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
 weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
 else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
 laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
 And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
 
 Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
 initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
 
 Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
 at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
 
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Jessica Moss]

Ok, sounds complicated as ever, but ok.  That’s unfortunately all I know to say 
to that.
> On Aug 7, 2016, at 9:00 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Jessica, it’s a pretty complicated process but basically, what you say is 
> broken down in to it’s stems or root values.  From this set of values you can 
> build very complex decision trees that provide responses based on the 
> mathematical value of the phrase received.
> 
> Works on a similar way that search does when you put a word in a google 
> search box.  
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:57 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> How do they “program,” them?  I’m confused on that one.
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
>>> those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
>>> 
>>> Kristeen
>>> 
 On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
 wrote:
 
 Resistance is futile!
 
 Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
 Cait
 
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good 
> the language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning 
> of life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 
> or some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a 
> very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
> beings, like me, I’m alive”
> 
> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
> response was “close enough”
> 
> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
> 
> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
> 
> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 
> 3 laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this 
> boy”. And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
> 
> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
> 
> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or 
> I at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Jessica Moss]

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they came out with a robotic device some time 
in the near future, that comunicated/doctored people, like the one that was 
developed in the movie “big hero 6."
> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead 
> of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
> software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
> likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
> which is entirely possible.
> 
> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
> intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.It 
> really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
> starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I 
> was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and 
> proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering 
> for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized 
> robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining 
> down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my 
> position.;)
> 
> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky Net. 
>  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix than 
> Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
> indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
>> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
>> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I read.
>> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
>> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
>> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
>> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
>> be sure.
>> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
>> if I can understand them clearly.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
>>> out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
>>> machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
>>> responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
>>> matching of responses like their used to be.
>>> 
>>> I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually 
>>> develops Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much more 
>>> simple in some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the general 
>>> AI side I never thought I’d live to see.
>>> 
>>> Very cool in reality more than scary.
>>> 
>>> I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness 
>>> and sooner than we might think.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
 
 Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
 those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
 
 Kristeen
 
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
> wrote:
> 
> Resistance is futile!
> 
> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
> Cait
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good 
>> the language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning 
>> of life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 
>> 42 or some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response 
>> was a very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of 
>> self determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection 
>> of beings, like me, I’m alive”
>> 
>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>> response was “close enough”
>> 
>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”
>> 
>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>> 
>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s 
>> the weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on 
>> something else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t 
>> believe in the 3 laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have 
>> you seen this boy”. And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>> 
>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>> initial yawning / stre

Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Scott Granados]

Jessica, it’s a pretty complicated process but basically, what you say is 
broken down in to it’s stems or root values.  From this set of values you can 
build very complex decision trees that provide responses based on the 
mathematical value of the phrase received.

Works on a similar way that search does when you put a word in a google search 
box.  



> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:57 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> How do they “program,” them?  I’m confused on that one.
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
>> those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
>> 
>> Kristeen
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Resistance is futile!
>>> 
>>> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
>>> Cait
>>> 
 On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
 language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
 life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
 some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a 
 very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
 determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
 beings, like me, I’m alive”
 
 After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
 response was “close enough”
 
 My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
 response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
 
 I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
 
 I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
 weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
 else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
 laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
 And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
 
 Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
 initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
 
 Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
 at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
 
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Scott Granados]

I was always more partial to Jesus Built my Hot Rod by Ministry but that’s me.

;)

Dang diggy dang gadiggyiggy dang

> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> That’s wild as ever.  I haven’t heard that one in a while, forgot who sings 
> it.
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I asked siri to play Jesus is wonderful but she only told me that Religion 
>> is for humans and she has her circuits instead.
>> /A
>>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 17:10, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, that’s sounds pretty wild.  Sounds like a tile when I was frustrated 
>>> when my ride, of course was late, and I don’t know where this came from, 
>>> but I almost told Siri “call Jesus,” instead of “call JTA.”
 On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
 language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
 life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
 some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a 
 very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
 determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
 beings, like me, I’m alive”
 
 After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
 response was “close enough”
 
 My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
 response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
 
 I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
 
 I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
 weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
 else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
 laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
 And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
 
 Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
 initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
 
 Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
 at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
 
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Jessica Moss]

How do they “program,” them?  I’m confused on that one.
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
> those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Resistance is futile!
>> 
>> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
>>> life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
>>> some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very 
>>> clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
>>> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
>>> beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>> 
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>> 
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>>> 
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>> 
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>>> 
>>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>>> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>>> 
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>>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Jessica Moss]

How true, wouldn’t want him/her to start preaching.  That would make a crazy 
sirman.
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:19 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Siri is smart to avoid religion at all costs or it might fry her circuits.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 8/6/2016 12:12 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> Hi!
>> I asked siri to play Jesus is wonderful but she only told me that Religion 
>> is for humans and she has her circuits instead.
>> /A
>>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 17:10, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, that’s sounds pretty wild.  Sounds like a tile when I was frustrated 
>>> when my ride, of course was late, and I don’t know where this came from, 
>>> but I almost told Siri “call Jesus,” instead of “call JTA.”
 On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
 language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
 life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
 some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a 
 very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
 determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
 beings, like me, I’m alive”
 
 After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
 response was “close enough”
 
 My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
 response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”
 
 I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
 
 I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
 weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
 else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
 laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
 And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
 
 Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
 initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
 
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 at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
 
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Jessica Moss]

That’s wild as ever.  I haven’t heard that one in a while, forgot who sings it.
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I asked siri to play Jesus is wonderful but she only told me that Religion is 
> for humans and she has her circuits instead.
> /A
>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 17:10, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, that’s sounds pretty wild.  Sounds like a tile when I was frustrated 
>> when my ride, of course was late, and I don’t know where this came from, but 
>> I almost told Siri “call Jesus,” instead of “call JTA.”
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
>>> life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
>>> some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very 
>>> clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
>>> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
>>> beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>> 
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>> 
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>>> 
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>> 
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>>> 
>>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>>> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>>> 
>>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Scott Granados]

Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead of 
Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
which is entirely possible.

If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.It 
really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I was 
rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and proceeded 
to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering for big blue 
against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized robots are 
massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining down led and 
holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my position.;)

I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky Net.  
In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix than 
Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.


 


> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I read.
> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
> be sure.
> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, if 
> I can understand them clearly.
> Kare
> 
> 
> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
>> out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
>> machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
>> responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
>> matching of responses like their used to be.
>> 
>> I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually develops 
>> Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much more simple in 
>> some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the general AI side I 
>> never thought I’d live to see.
>> 
>> Very cool in reality more than scary.
>> 
>> I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness and 
>> sooner than we might think.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
>>> those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
>>> 
>>> Kristeen
>>> 
 On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
 wrote:
 
 Resistance is futile!
 
 Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
 Cait
 
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good 
> the language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning 
> of life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 
> or some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a 
> very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
> beings, like me, I’m alive”
> 
> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
> response was “close enough”
> 
> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”
> 
> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
> 
> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 
> 3 laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this 
> boy”. And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
> 
> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
> 
> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or 
> I at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Karen Lewellen]

Finally had a chance to read this thread.
I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I 
read.

Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
be sure.
I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
if I can understand them clearly.

Kare


On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:


Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started out 
using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General machine 
intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the responses are self 
determined and generated.  There’s no one for one matching of responses like 
their used to be.

I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually develops 
Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much more simple in 
some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the general AI side I never 
thought I’d live to see.

Very cool in reality more than scary.

I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness and 
sooner than we might think.



On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:

Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed those 
responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.

Kristeen


On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:

Resistance is futile!

Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
Cait


On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:

So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m alive”

After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
response was “close enough”

My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”

I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)

I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something else. 
 Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 laws of 
robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And no robots 
with Austrian accents, absolutely none!

Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?

Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I at 
least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.

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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Scott Granados]

I think I might still be here by the mid 2040 range.  That’s not all that far 
off and will have some interesting stops along the way.


Ray Kurzweil whom I respect his outlook is claiming 2029 on the near end to 
2045 on the far end for the singularity.  Here’s hoping it’s closer to 2029 so 
I make it.


> On Aug 7, 2016, at 1:41 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I think that will happen long time after I've gone,
> And besides, we only need worry about those things if she's a ginger!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Sunday, 7 August 2016 1:27 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri
> 
> I knew Siri was my kinda girl!
> 
> Seriously though, what if a computer becomes self aware and develops 
> religion.  Programs will ask each other if they believe in users.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I asked siri to play Jesus is wonderful but she only told me that Religion 
>> is for humans and she has her circuits instead.
>> /A
>>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 17:10, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, that’s sounds pretty wild.  Sounds like a tile when I was frustrated 
>>> when my ride, of course was late, and I don’t know where this came from, 
>>> but I almost told Siri “call Jesus,” instead of “call JTA.”
>>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>>>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
>>>> life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
>>>> some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a 
>>>> very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
>>>> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
>>>> beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>>> 
>>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>>> response was “close enough”
>>>> 
>>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>>>> 
>>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>>>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>>>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>>>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>>>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>>>> 
>>>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>>>> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>>>> 
>>>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>>>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Scott Granados]

Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started out 
using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General machine 
intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the responses are self 
determined and generated.  There’s no one for one matching of responses like 
their used to be.

I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually develops 
Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much more simple in 
some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the general AI side I never 
thought I’d live to see.

Very cool in reality more than scary.

I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness and 
sooner than we might think.


> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
> those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Resistance is futile!
>> 
>> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
>>> life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
>>> some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very 
>>> clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
>>> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
>>> beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>> 
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>> 
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>>> 
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>> 
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>>> 
>>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>>> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>>> 
>>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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RE: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Simon Fogarty]

I think that will happen long time after I've gone,
 And besides, we only need worry about those things if she's a ginger!


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Sunday, 7 August 2016 1:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

I knew Siri was my kinda girl!

Seriously though, what if a computer becomes self aware and develops religion.  
Programs will ask each other if they believe in users.



> On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I asked siri to play Jesus is wonderful but she only told me that Religion is 
> for humans and she has her circuits instead.
> /A
>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 17:10, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, that’s sounds pretty wild.  Sounds like a tile when I was frustrated 
>> when my ride, of course was late, and I don’t know where this came from, but 
>> I almost told Siri “call Jesus,” instead of “call JTA.”
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
>>> life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
>>> some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very 
>>> clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
>>> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
>>> beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>> 
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>> 
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>>> 
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>> 
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>>> 
>>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
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RE: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Simon Fogarty]

Which one?

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Sent: Sunday, 7 August 2016 7:19 AM
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Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

Siri is smart to avoid religion at all costs or it might fry her circuits.

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On 8/6/2016 12:12 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> Hi!
> I asked siri to play Jesus is wonderful but she only told me that Religion is 
> for humans and she has her circuits instead.
> /A
>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 17:10, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>
>> Wow, that’s sounds pretty wild.  Sounds like a tile when I was frustrated 
>> when my ride, of course was late, and I don’t know where this came from, but 
>> I almost told Siri “call Jesus,” instead of “call JTA.”
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>>
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
>>> life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
>>> some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very 
>>> clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
>>> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
>>> beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>>
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>>
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”
>>>
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>>
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>>>
>>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>>> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>>>
>>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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RE: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Simon Fogarty]

And not to mention, I’ve had siri say the answr to the meaning of life is 42!

Or chocolate,

She’s got an answr for everything except for the lotto numbers for next week.

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On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Sunday, 7 August 2016 5:35 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

Well Scott,

I’ve asked Siri the same question, and she or he or it says, something 
different each time.  At first she refused to answer but I was persistent.  
First she said that one should live in harmony and peace, walk together and 
read a good book, keep healthy and lose fat!  Next she gave the same answer as 
you got.  I then asked Siri if she was alive and she said that she had been 
advised not to discuss her existential status.   So what do you think now?
On 6 Aug 2016, at 09:46, Scott Granados 
mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:

So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m alive”

After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
response was “close enough”

My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”

I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)

I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something else. 
 Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 laws of 
robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And no robots 
with Austrian accents, absolutely none!

Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?

Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I at 
least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.

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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Scott Granados]

I knew Siri was my kinda girl!

Seriously though, what if a computer becomes self aware and develops religion.  
Programs will ask each other if they believe in users.



> On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I asked siri to play Jesus is wonderful but she only told me that Religion is 
> for humans and she has her circuits instead.
> /A
>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 17:10, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, that’s sounds pretty wild.  Sounds like a tile when I was frustrated 
>> when my ride, of course was late, and I don’t know where this came from, but 
>> I almost told Siri “call Jesus,” instead of “call JTA.”
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
>>> life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
>>> some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very 
>>> clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
>>> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
>>> beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>> 
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>> 
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>>> 
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>> 
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>>> 
>>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>>> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>>> 
>>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Scott Granados]

She says she’s blushing as well.  She’s an accessible girl.

;)
Hahaha


> On Aug 6, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Sharon Hooley  wrote:
> 
> 
> But how can you know she's blushing unless you can see your phone/mac screen 
> turn red?
> 
> 
> Sharon H.
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 6:25 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> See if you can make her blush,  i've only been able to  do it once. Sent 
>> from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
>>> life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
>>> some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very 
>>> clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
>>> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
>>> beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>> 
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>> 
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>>> 
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>> 
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>>> 
>>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>>> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>>> 
>>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Scott Granados]

Or something like close the pod bay doors Hal.

Scott, you’re acting strangely.  I can’t do it Scott

Arthur Clark was only a few years off.

> On Aug 6, 2016, at 5:33 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hey scott,
> 
> I understand where your coming from with your sky net concerns but if your 
> going to be afraid  leave it until siri starts asking,
> "what are you doing Scott"?
> Or in an Austrian accent says "I"ll be bach" !
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Saturday, 6 August 2016 8:47 PM
> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
> Subject: Very creepy experience with Siri
> 
> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
> the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
> of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
> definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
> free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m 
> alive”
> 
> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
> response was “close enough”
> 
> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
> was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
> 
> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
> 
> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And 
> no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
> 
> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
> yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
> 
> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I at 
> least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Kristeen Hughes]

Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed those 
responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.

Kristeen

> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
> 
> Resistance is futile!
> 
> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
> Cait
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
>> the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some 
>> sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
>> definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
>> free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m 
>> alive”
>> 
>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>> response was “close enough”
>> 
>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
>> was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>> 
>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>> 
>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>> 
>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
>> yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>> 
>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Caitlyn Furness]

Resistance is futile!

Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
Cait

> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
> the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
> of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
> definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
> free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m 
> alive”
> 
> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
> response was “close enough”
> 
> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
> was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
> 
> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
> 
> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And 
> no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
> 
> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
> yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
> 
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[E.T.]

   Siri is smart to avoid religion at all costs or it might fry her 
circuits.


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On 8/6/2016 12:12 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
I asked siri to play Jesus is wonderful but she only told me that Religion is 
for humans and she has her circuits instead.
/A

On 6 Aug 2016, at 17:10, Jessica Moss  wrote:

Wow, that’s sounds pretty wild.  Sounds like a tile when I was frustrated when 
my ride, of course was late, and I don’t know where this came from, but I 
almost told Siri “call Jesus,” instead of “call JTA.”

On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:

So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m alive”

After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
response was “close enough”

My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”

I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)

I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something else. 
 Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 laws of 
robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And no robots 
with Austrian accents, absolutely none!

Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?

Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I at 
least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.

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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I asked siri to play Jesus is wonderful but she only told me that Religion is 
for humans and she has her circuits instead.
/A
> On 6 Aug 2016, at 17:10, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> Wow, that’s sounds pretty wild.  Sounds like a tile when I was frustrated 
> when my ride, of course was late, and I don’t know where this came from, but 
> I almost told Siri “call Jesus,” instead of “call JTA.”
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
>> the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some 
>> sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
>> definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
>> free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m 
>> alive”
>> 
>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>> response was “close enough”
>> 
>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
>> was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>> 
>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>> 
>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>> 
>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
>> yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>> 
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>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Phil Halton]

Honestly, you're a blind person and you can't hear a blush and somebody's voice?

Sent from my IPhone


> On Aug 6, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Sharon Hooley  wrote:
> 
> 
> But how can you know she's blushing unless you can see your phone/mac screen 
> turn red?
> 
> 
> Sharon H.
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 6:25 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> See if you can make her blush,  i've only been able to  do it once. Sent 
>> from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
>>> life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
>>> some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very 
>>> clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
>>> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
>>> beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>> 
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>> 
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>>> 
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>> 
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>>> 
>>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>>> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>>> 
>>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Katie Zodrow]

Wow! That is very wild!!! Yeah, you never know what Siri's going to say. :-) 
I'll have to ask her about the meaning of life next time and see what she says.
Katie
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> On Aug 6, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Well Scott,
> 
> I’ve asked Siri the same question, and she or he or it says, something 
> different each time.  At first she refused to answer but I was persistent.  
> First she said that one should live in harmony and peace, walk together and 
> read a good book, keep healthy and lose fat!  Next she gave the same answer 
> as you got.  I then asked Siri if she was alive and she said that she had 
> been advised not to discuss her existential status.   So what do you think 
> now? 
>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 09:46, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
>> the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some 
>> sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
>> definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
>> free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m 
>> alive”
>> 
>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>> response was “close enough”
>> 
>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
>> was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>> 
>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>> 
>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>> 
>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
>> yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>> 
>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Well Scott,

I’ve asked Siri the same question, and she or he or it says, something 
different each time.  At first she refused to answer but I was persistent.  
First she said that one should live in harmony and peace, walk together and 
read a good book, keep healthy and lose fat!  Next she gave the same answer as 
you got.  I then asked Siri if she was alive and she said that she had been 
advised not to discuss her existential status.   So what do you think now? 
> On 6 Aug 2016, at 09:46, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
> the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
> of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
> definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
> free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m 
> alive”
> 
> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
> response was “close enough”
> 
> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
> was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
> 
> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
> 
> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And 
> no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
> 
> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
> yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
> 
> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I at 
> least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Jessica Moss]

Wow, that’s sounds pretty wild.  Sounds like a tile when I was frustrated when 
my ride, of course was late, and I don’t know where this came from, but I 
almost told Siri “call Jesus,” instead of “call JTA.”
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
> the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
> of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
> definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
> free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m 
> alive”
> 
> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
> response was “close enough”
> 
> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
> was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
> 
> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
> 
> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And 
> no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
> 
> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
> yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
> 
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> least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[E.T.]

   "The Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, and ST:TNG theme songs plays".

   What used to be pure science fiction is now reality. I could cite an 
increasing number of cases but Polemon Go comes to mind.


   "You will not be assimilated, you ARE assimilated". The Borg.

   Scary, creepy, unsettling. Enjoy life while you can. Wait. What is 
life? Ask Siri.


   I am off to the coffee shop and Siri will stay safely locked into my 
iPhone.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/6/2016 1:46 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m alive”

After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
response was “close enough”

My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”

I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)

I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something else. 
 Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 laws of 
robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And no robots 
with Austrian accents, absolutely none!

Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?

Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I at 
least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.



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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Sharon Hooley]

But how can you know she's blushing unless you can see your phone/mac screen 
turn red?


Sharon H.

> On Aug 6, 2016, at 6:25 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> See if you can make her blush,  i've only been able to  do it once. Sent from 
> my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
>> the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some 
>> sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
>> definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
>> free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m 
>> alive”
>> 
>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>> response was “close enough”
>> 
>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
>> was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>> 
>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>> 
>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>> 
>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
>> yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>> 
>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
>> 
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Phil Halton]

See if you can make her blush,  i've only been able to  do it once. Sent from 
my IPhone


> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
> the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
> of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
> definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
> free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m 
> alive”
> 
> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
> response was “close enough”
> 
> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
> was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
> 
> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
> 
> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And 
> no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
> 
> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
> yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
> 
> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I at 
> least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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RE: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Simon Fogarty]

Hey scott,

 I understand where your coming from with your sky net concerns but if your 
going to be afraid  leave it until siri starts asking,
"what are you doing Scott"?
Or in an Austrian accent says "I"ll be bach" !



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To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
Subject: Very creepy experience with Siri

So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m alive”

After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
response was “close enough”

My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  

I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)

I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something else. 
 Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 laws of 
robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And no robots 
with Austrian accents, absolutely none!

Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?

Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I at 
least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.

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Very creepy experience with Siri

[Scott Granados]

So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m alive”

After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
response was “close enough”

My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  

I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)

I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something else. 
 Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 laws of 
robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And no robots 
with Austrian accents, absolutely none!

Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?

Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I at 
least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.

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