Re: something is a miss here.
Jon that may be true, but a few things to keep in mind. First it may not even be an Apple drive, it could be your external drive or even a Time Capsule drive. Additionally the utility can keep a file system in good order, so it does more than just recover the data and truthfully I try to hang onto machines that are beyond their warranty. I understand what your saying, but having the tools available to take care of any drive may be really a good idea. I've had drives I sure wish I had a utility like this to recover data from. :) On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > > I had to run Disk Warrior once on my childrens's e-mac computer. The > disk had enough errors that it took 3-4 days to recover data. There > were 100's of files (mostly system files) that it could not recover, > but I was able to reteive most of their documents. I then did a full > format and restored the system. If your computer is under > maintencnace and has not suffered from abuse, I would just let the > apple store give you a new hard disk. They can charge a small fee to > store all the information on the HD and migrate it to the new disk. > > Best regards, > > Jon > > On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> >> I imagine Apple will charge the same as the vendor online, $99.95. >> Ironically, I found a message someone had sent to another list about >> this product and it apparently is the real deal. So, I'm giving some >> thought to purchasing it myself. I've been very lucky in that I have >> not lost any drives and I do have backups, but there is always that >> one chance and with a kid, well, hell, anything is possible. >> On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:05 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: >> >>> >>> Before you or anyone else does anything, make sure that you've >>> cloaned >>> your drive. Software wise, hsf is some what of a nightmair to >>> recover >>> files from so before any data recovery apps try and mess with >>> anything, its important that you have an at least partially working >>> copy of your hard drive stored somewhere. >>> >>> On 30/07/2009, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi, thanks for all this. Smart status does in deed say varified. Do you remember off hand how much the apple store might charge me for disc warrier? I'm looking it up on the apple store online now, but if it's not expensive, say, under the $100 mark, I might just buy it from the apple store and let the geneus handle it. Best, erik burggraaf A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 30-Jul-09, at 5:33 PM, Esther wrote: > > Hi Erik, > > One quick question: when you run Disk Utility what reading do you > get > when you select the hard drive above "Macintosh HD" on the > sidebar? > That is, when you VO-Up arrow to something that says (for example, > 232.9 GB Fujitsu etc.) Use item chooser menu to go to "selected > disk > image" and then VO-Right arrow and interact with the part that > begins > "Disk Description". There should be an announcement of > "S.M.A.R.T. > Status:" Does it say "verified" after that announcement? > > You can sometimes recover from this with Alsoft's "Disk Warrior" > but > there are accessibility issues running from the DVD, I think. If > it's > on a cloned disk you can run it on your home disk drive through > the > clone. If you have a local Apple Store nearby, they can probably > run > this as a diagnostic on your hard drive. They might be willing to > go > ahead and run it on your hard drive if you bought a copy of the > software from the store (though it's slightly cheaper from the web > download.) And you should probably have a new hard drive to copy > to > before things get seriously worse and unrecoverable. Disk Warrior > does > work to recover in instances such as you describe, although given > the > circumstances I would ask at my local Apple Store and try to have > them > run this. I'm sure that every Genius bar has a copy of this. > They > can run the diagnosis for you even if they won't run the recovery. > You should know that there is a possibility of introducing > problems in > doing the recover mode, but in most instances it just works, and > the > problems are minimal. In that case, if your disk has really gone > south the amount of work you'd have to do to get the problem areas > fully recovered without these glitches is quite major, and > probably > beyond your scope. Disk Warrior does work very well, although I > haven't had to use it for quite a while -- since first upgrading > to > Leopard. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> Hi friends. I
Re: something is a miss here.
I had to run Disk Warrior once on my childrens's e-mac computer. The disk had enough errors that it took 3-4 days to recover data. There were 100's of files (mostly system files) that it could not recover, but I was able to reteive most of their documents. I then did a full format and restored the system. If your computer is under maintencnace and has not suffered from abuse, I would just let the apple store give you a new hard disk. They can charge a small fee to store all the information on the HD and migrate it to the new disk. Best regards, Jon On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > > I imagine Apple will charge the same as the vendor online, $99.95. > Ironically, I found a message someone had sent to another list about > this product and it apparently is the real deal. So, I'm giving some > thought to purchasing it myself. I've been very lucky in that I have > not lost any drives and I do have backups, but there is always that > one chance and with a kid, well, hell, anything is possible. > On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:05 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: > >> >> Before you or anyone else does anything, make sure that you've >> cloaned >> your drive. Software wise, hsf is some what of a nightmair to recover >> files from so before any data recovery apps try and mess with >> anything, its important that you have an at least partially working >> copy of your hard drive stored somewhere. >> >> On 30/07/2009, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> >>> Hi, thanks for all this. Smart status does in deed say varified. >>> >>> Do you remember off hand how much the apple store might charge me >>> for >>> disc warrier? I'm looking it up on the apple store online now, but >>> if >>> it's not expensive, say, under the $100 mark, I might just buy it >>> from >>> the apple store and let the geneus handle it. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> erik burggraaf >>> A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. >>> Phone: 888-255-5194 >>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> On 30-Jul-09, at 5:33 PM, Esther wrote: >>> Hi Erik, One quick question: when you run Disk Utility what reading do you get when you select the hard drive above "Macintosh HD" on the sidebar? That is, when you VO-Up arrow to something that says (for example, 232.9 GB Fujitsu etc.) Use item chooser menu to go to "selected disk image" and then VO-Right arrow and interact with the part that begins "Disk Description". There should be an announcement of "S.M.A.R.T. Status:" Does it say "verified" after that announcement? You can sometimes recover from this with Alsoft's "Disk Warrior" but there are accessibility issues running from the DVD, I think. If it's on a cloned disk you can run it on your home disk drive through the clone. If you have a local Apple Store nearby, they can probably run this as a diagnostic on your hard drive. They might be willing to go ahead and run it on your hard drive if you bought a copy of the software from the store (though it's slightly cheaper from the web download.) And you should probably have a new hard drive to copy to before things get seriously worse and unrecoverable. Disk Warrior does work to recover in instances such as you describe, although given the circumstances I would ask at my local Apple Store and try to have them run this. I'm sure that every Genius bar has a copy of this. They can run the diagnosis for you even if they won't run the recovery. You should know that there is a possibility of introducing problems in doing the recover mode, but in most instances it just works, and the problems are minimal. In that case, if your disk has really gone south the amount of work you'd have to do to get the problem areas fully recovered without these glitches is quite major, and probably beyond your scope. Disk Warrior does work very well, although I haven't had to use it for quite a while -- since first upgrading to Leopard. Cheers, Esther erik burggraaf wrote: > > Hi friends. I think something is rong with my apple hardware. > > 3 or four weeks ago I started having checksums fail when I coppied > things across the network from my old turion notebook to the > macbook > here. > > I thought it might be the disc on the other machine failing. It > is 4 > or 5 years old now after all. But I've also noticed I can't run > digital voices like alex or ryan any more. The system doesn't > stand > for it. Even when I'm using fred or bruce vo restarts often, > programs > hang, and some times the whole system seems to go dead for a > minute, > the dvd drive resets, and then the system comes back to life as if > nothing had happened. > > Yesterday I loaded u
Re: something is a miss here.
I imagine Apple will charge the same as the vendor online, $99.95. Ironically, I found a message someone had sent to another list about this product and it apparently is the real deal. So, I'm giving some thought to purchasing it myself. I've been very lucky in that I have not lost any drives and I do have backups, but there is always that one chance and with a kid, well, hell, anything is possible. On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:05 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: > > Before you or anyone else does anything, make sure that you've cloaned > your drive. Software wise, hsf is some what of a nightmair to recover > files from so before any data recovery apps try and mess with > anything, its important that you have an at least partially working > copy of your harddrive stored someware. > > On 30/07/2009, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >> Hi, thanks for all this. Smart status does in deed say varified. >> >> Do you remember off hand how much the apple store might charge me for >> disc warrier? I'm looking it up on the apple store online now, but >> if >> it's not expensive, say, under the $100 mark, I might just buy it >> from >> the apple store and let the geneus handle it. >> >> Best, >> >> erik burggraaf >> A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 30-Jul-09, at 5:33 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Erik, >>> >>> One quick question: when you run Disk Utility what reading do you >>> get >>> when you select the hard drive above "Macintosh HD" on the sidebar? >>> That is, when you VO-Up arrow to something that says (for example, >>> 232.9 GB Fujitsu etc.) Use item chooser menu to go to "selected >>> disk >>> image" and then VO-Right arrow and interact with the part that >>> begins >>> "Disk Description". There should be an announcement of "S.M.A.R.T. >>> Status:" Does it say "verified" after that announcement? >>> >>> You can sometimes recover from this with Alsoft's "Disk Warrior" but >>> there are accessibility issues running from the DVD, I think. If >>> it's >>> on a cloned disk you can run it on your home disk drive through the >>> clone. If you have a local Apple Store nearby, they can probably run >>> this as a diagnostic on your hard drive. They might be willing to >>> go >>> ahead and run it on your hard drive if you bought a copy of the >>> software from the store (though it's slightly cheaper from the web >>> download.) And you should probably have a new hard drive to copy to >>> before things get seriously worse and unrecoverable. Disk Warrior >>> does >>> work to recover in instances such as you describe, although given >>> the >>> circumstances I would ask at my local Apple Store and try to have >>> them >>> run this. I'm sure that every Genius bar has a copy of this. They >>> can run the diagnosis for you even if they won't run the recovery. >>> You should know that there is a possibility of introducing >>> problems in >>> doing the recover mode, but in most instances it just works, and the >>> problems are minimal. In that case, if your disk has really gone >>> south the amount of work you'd have to do to get the problem areas >>> fully recovered without these glitches is quite major, and probably >>> beyond your scope. Disk Warrior does work very well, although I >>> haven't had to use it for quite a while -- since first upgrading to >>> Leopard. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> erik burggraaf wrote: >>> Hi friends. I think something is rong with my apple hardware. 3 or four weeks ago I started having checksums fail when I coppied things across the network from my old turion notebook to the macbook here. I thought it might be the disc on the other machine failing. It is 4 or 5 years old now after all. But I've also noticed I can't run digital voices like alex or ryan any more. The system doesn't stand for it. Even when I'm using fred or bruce vo restarts often, programs hang, and some times the whole system seems to go dead for a minute, the dvd drive resets, and then the system comes back to life as if nothing had happened. Yesterday I loaded up my windows vm here and tried to mac catalog my music folder and the wimdows system told me some fo the files couldn't be read. I repaired the permissions on my drive, but I checked the log thuroughly and nothing in my home folder had corupt permissions. I did a verify disc on the hard drive and everything came back OK, even though I sorely suspect that not to be the case. So, I loaded up off the cd and tried the varify, and it still says everything is OK. I suspect though that the hitacci hard drive in my macbook pro is failing. Is there any recorse for me somewhere in between disc utility from the install cd and dropping my macbook off at the
Re: something is a miss here.
Before you or anyone else does anything, make sure that you've cloaned your drive. Software wise, hsf is some what of a nightmair to recover files from so before any data recovery apps try and mess with anything, its important that you have an at least partially working copy of your harddrive stored someware. On 30/07/2009, erik burggraaf wrote: > > Hi, thanks for all this. Smart status does in deed say varified. > > Do you remember off hand how much the apple store might charge me for > disc warrier? I'm looking it up on the apple store online now, but if > it's not expensive, say, under the $100 mark, I might just buy it from > the apple store and let the geneus handle it. > > Best, > > erik burggraaf > A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > On 30-Jul-09, at 5:33 PM, Esther wrote: > >> >> Hi Erik, >> >> One quick question: when you run Disk Utility what reading do you get >> when you select the hard drive above "Macintosh HD" on the sidebar? >> That is, when you VO-Up arrow to something that says (for example, >> 232.9 GB Fujitsu etc.) Use item chooser menu to go to "selected disk >> image" and then VO-Right arrow and interact with the part that begins >> "Disk Description". There should be an announcement of "S.M.A.R.T. >> Status:" Does it say "verified" after that announcement? >> >> You can sometimes recover from this with Alsoft's "Disk Warrior" but >> there are accessibility issues running from the DVD, I think. If it's >> on a cloned disk you can run it on your home disk drive through the >> clone. If you have a local Apple Store nearby, they can probably run >> this as a diagnostic on your hard drive. They might be willing to go >> ahead and run it on your hard drive if you bought a copy of the >> software from the store (though it's slightly cheaper from the web >> download.) And you should probably have a new hard drive to copy to >> before things get seriously worse and unrecoverable. Disk Warrior does >> work to recover in instances such as you describe, although given the >> circumstances I would ask at my local Apple Store and try to have them >> run this. I'm sure that every Genius bar has a copy of this. They >> can run the diagnosis for you even if they won't run the recovery. >> You should know that there is a possibility of introducing problems in >> doing the recover mode, but in most instances it just works, and the >> problems are minimal. In that case, if your disk has really gone >> south the amount of work you'd have to do to get the problem areas >> fully recovered without these glitches is quite major, and probably >> beyond your scope. Disk Warrior does work very well, although I >> haven't had to use it for quite a while -- since first upgrading to >> Leopard. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi friends. I think something is rong with my apple hardware. >>> >>> 3 or four weeks ago I started having checksums fail when I coppied >>> things across the network from my old turion notebook to the macbook >>> here. >>> >>> I thought it might be the disc on the other machine failing. It is 4 >>> or 5 years old now after all. But I've also noticed I can't run >>> digital voices like alex or ryan any more. The system doesn't stand >>> for it. Even when I'm using fred or bruce vo restarts often, >>> programs >>> hang, and some times the whole system seems to go dead for a minute, >>> the dvd drive resets, and then the system comes back to life as if >>> nothing had happened. >>> >>> Yesterday I loaded up my windows vm here and tried to mac catalog my >>> music folder and the wimdows system told me some fo the files >>> couldn't >>> be read. I repaired the permissions on my drive, but I checked the >>> log thuroughly and nothing in my home folder had corupt permissions. >>> >>> I did a verify disc on the hard drive and everything came back OK, >>> even though I sorely suspect that not to be the case. So, I loaded >>> up >>> off the cd and tried the varify, and it still says everything is OK. >>> I suspect though that the hitacci hard drive in my macbook pro is >>> failing. Is there any recorse for me somewhere in between disc >>> utility from the install cd and dropping my macbook off at the apple >>> store for a couple of days? A hitacci diagnostic that runs on mac >>> OS10 for example, or another more thurough apple friendly third party >>> diagnostic? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> erik burggraaf >>> A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. >>> Phone: 888-255-5194 >>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > > -- Kind regards, BEN. email: bmustillr...@gmail.com msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to m
something is a miss here.
Hi friends. I think something is rong with my apple hardware. 3 or four weeks ago I started having checksums fail when I coppied things across the network from my old turion notebook to the macbook here. I thought it might be the disc on the other machine failing. It is 4 or 5 years old now after all. But I've also noticed I can't run digital voices like alex or ryan any more. The system doesn't stand for it. Even when I'm using fred or bruce vo restarts often, programs hang, and some times the whole system seems to go dead for a minute, the dvd drive resets, and then the system comes back to life as if nothing had happened. Yesterday I loaded up my windows vm here and tried to mac catalog my music folder and the wimdows system told me some fo the files couldn't be read. I repaired the permissions on my drive, but I checked the log thuroughly and nothing in my home folder had corupt permissions. I did a verify disc on the hard drive and everything came back OK, even though I sorely suspect that not to be the case. So, I loaded up off the cd and tried the varify, and it still says everything is OK. I suspect though that the hitacci hard drive in my macbook pro is failing. Is there any recorse for me somewhere in between disc utility from the install cd and dropping my macbook off at the apple store for a couple of days? A hitacci diagnostic that runs on mac OS10 for example, or another more thurough apple friendly third party diagnostic? Thanks, erik burggraaf A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: something is a miss here.
Hi, thanks for all this. Smart status does in deed say varified. Do you remember off hand how much the apple store might charge me for disc warrier? I'm looking it up on the apple store online now, but if it's not expensive, say, under the $100 mark, I might just buy it from the apple store and let the geneus handle it. Best, erik burggraaf A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 30-Jul-09, at 5:33 PM, Esther wrote: > > Hi Erik, > > One quick question: when you run Disk Utility what reading do you get > when you select the hard drive above "Macintosh HD" on the sidebar? > That is, when you VO-Up arrow to something that says (for example, > 232.9 GB Fujitsu etc.) Use item chooser menu to go to "selected disk > image" and then VO-Right arrow and interact with the part that begins > "Disk Description". There should be an announcement of "S.M.A.R.T. > Status:" Does it say "verified" after that announcement? > > You can sometimes recover from this with Alsoft's "Disk Warrior" but > there are accessibility issues running from the DVD, I think. If it's > on a cloned disk you can run it on your home disk drive through the > clone. If you have a local Apple Store nearby, they can probably run > this as a diagnostic on your hard drive. They might be willing to go > ahead and run it on your hard drive if you bought a copy of the > software from the store (though it's slightly cheaper from the web > download.) And you should probably have a new hard drive to copy to > before things get seriously worse and unrecoverable. Disk Warrior does > work to recover in instances such as you describe, although given the > circumstances I would ask at my local Apple Store and try to have them > run this. I'm sure that every Genius bar has a copy of this. They > can run the diagnosis for you even if they won't run the recovery. > You should know that there is a possibility of introducing problems in > doing the recover mode, but in most instances it just works, and the > problems are minimal. In that case, if your disk has really gone > south the amount of work you'd have to do to get the problem areas > fully recovered without these glitches is quite major, and probably > beyond your scope. Disk Warrior does work very well, although I > haven't had to use it for quite a while -- since first upgrading to > Leopard. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> Hi friends. I think something is rong with my apple hardware. >> >> 3 or four weeks ago I started having checksums fail when I coppied >> things across the network from my old turion notebook to the macbook >> here. >> >> I thought it might be the disc on the other machine failing. It is 4 >> or 5 years old now after all. But I've also noticed I can't run >> digital voices like alex or ryan any more. The system doesn't stand >> for it. Even when I'm using fred or bruce vo restarts often, >> programs >> hang, and some times the whole system seems to go dead for a minute, >> the dvd drive resets, and then the system comes back to life as if >> nothing had happened. >> >> Yesterday I loaded up my windows vm here and tried to mac catalog my >> music folder and the wimdows system told me some fo the files >> couldn't >> be read. I repaired the permissions on my drive, but I checked the >> log thuroughly and nothing in my home folder had corupt permissions. >> >> I did a verify disc on the hard drive and everything came back OK, >> even though I sorely suspect that not to be the case. So, I loaded >> up >> off the cd and tried the varify, and it still says everything is OK. >> I suspect though that the hitacci hard drive in my macbook pro is >> failing. Is there any recorse for me somewhere in between disc >> utility from the install cd and dropping my macbook off at the apple >> store for a couple of days? A hitacci diagnostic that runs on mac >> OS10 for example, or another more thurough apple friendly third party >> diagnostic? >> >> Thanks, >> >> erik burggraaf >> A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: something is a miss here.
Hi Erik, One quick question: when you run Disk Utility what reading do you get when you select the hard drive above "Macintosh HD" on the sidebar? That is, when you VO-Up arrow to something that says (for example, 232.9 GB Fujitsu etc.) Use item chooser menu to go to "selected disk image" and then VO-Right arrow and interact with the part that begins "Disk Description". There should be an announcement of "S.M.A.R.T. Status:" Does it say "verified" after that announcement? You can sometimes recover from this with Alsoft's "Disk Warrior" but there are accessibility issues running from the DVD, I think. If it's on a cloned disk you can run it on your home disk drive through the clone. If you have a local Apple Store nearby, they can probably run this as a diagnostic on your hard drive. They might be willing to go ahead and run it on your hard drive if you bought a copy of the software from the store (though it's slightly cheaper from the web download.) And you should probably have a new hard drive to copy to before things get seriously worse and unrecoverable. Disk Warrior does work to recover in instances such as you describe, although given the circumstances I would ask at my local Apple Store and try to have them run this. I'm sure that every Genius bar has a copy of this. They can run the diagnosis for you even if they won't run the recovery. You should know that there is a possibility of introducing problems in doing the recover mode, but in most instances it just works, and the problems are minimal. In that case, if your disk has really gone south the amount of work you'd have to do to get the problem areas fully recovered without these glitches is quite major, and probably beyond your scope. Disk Warrior does work very well, although I haven't had to use it for quite a while -- since first upgrading to Leopard. Cheers, Esther erik burggraaf wrote: > > Hi friends. I think something is rong with my apple hardware. > > 3 or four weeks ago I started having checksums fail when I coppied > things across the network from my old turion notebook to the macbook > here. > > I thought it might be the disc on the other machine failing. It is 4 > or 5 years old now after all. But I've also noticed I can't run > digital voices like alex or ryan any more. The system doesn't stand > for it. Even when I'm using fred or bruce vo restarts often, programs > hang, and some times the whole system seems to go dead for a minute, > the dvd drive resets, and then the system comes back to life as if > nothing had happened. > > Yesterday I loaded up my windows vm here and tried to mac catalog my > music folder and the wimdows system told me some fo the files couldn't > be read. I repaired the permissions on my drive, but I checked the > log thuroughly and nothing in my home folder had corupt permissions. > > I did a verify disc on the hard drive and everything came back OK, > even though I sorely suspect that not to be the case. So, I loaded up > off the cd and tried the varify, and it still says everything is OK. > I suspect though that the hitacci hard drive in my macbook pro is > failing. Is there any recorse for me somewhere in between disc > utility from the install cd and dropping my macbook off at the apple > store for a couple of days? A hitacci diagnostic that runs on mac > OS10 for example, or another more thurough apple friendly third party > diagnostic? > > Thanks, > > erik burggraaf > A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
