Re: what, exactly, will iTunes do to my music?

2012-10-05 Thread Alex Hall
Okay, so I can still sort by different crier, cool. I didn't know about iTunes 
scripts, thanks.
On Oct 5, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Just for clarification, the key combination of cmd-option-right arrow skips 
> forward through your item and cmd-option-left arrow moves skips back in 
> smaller increments.  You are correct in that you can't, though, change the 
> playback rate in iTunes.  There may be a script out there that would achieve 
> this task, just do a Google search on iTunes scripts and see all the 
> interesting stuff people have created.  In answer to your question about 
> putting things into Genres and such, it really doesn't matter if the files 
> are in the iTunes folder or not, as long as they've been added to the iTunes 
> DB, then they will be able to be managed by iTunes.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-10-05, at 5:55 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, everyone, for the feedback. I guess I'm reluctant to give everything 
>> to iTunes completely because, sometimes, I'll play songs in vlc so I can 
>> more easily skip through them (iTunes does not include keyboard shortcuts 
>> for jumping around a file) and so I can, if necessary, change the key or 
>> playback speed (useful for long podcasts I want to speed up). Giving iTunes 
>> my media would mean a long trek into the heart of the folder structure to 
>> use an alternative player when I want to. Would I still have the ability to 
>> view by genre, articst, and album if I did not add my folders to the library 
>> but just told iTunes where they are? That is, does it stil build a database, 
>> or do folders have to be copied into the library to do that? Aside from 
>> that, I suppose I must now do some thinking and figure out what my best 
>> course of action is. Thanks again for your answers.
>> On Oct 5, 2012, at 2:07 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> If you don't want iTunes to organise your music into folders for you, you 
>>> can do the following:
>>> 1. In iTunes Preferences under the Advanced panel make sure the "Copy files 
>>> to iTunes Media folder when adding to library" button is unchecked, that 
>>> is, not checked.
>>> 2. Then you can add the folder where you keep all your music files to the 
>>> iTunes library by going to the File menu in iTunes and selecting add to 
>>> library. The songs and their locations will be added to the iTunes database 
>>> so it knows where they are and can play them, but the actual files won't be 
>>> moved.
>>> 
>>> The disadvantage of this is that you may end up with music in a bunch of 
>>> different locations. Some in that original music folder, some in your 
>>> iTunes Media folder if you download any music through iTunes, and some in 
>>> your Downloads folder etc. This could be a hassle when you have to transfer 
>>> files to a new computer etc. but So long as you're happy to keep track of 
>>> all your files it shouldn't really be a problem.
>>> 
>>> The other way you may be able to keep your current set up is by:
>>> 1. Ensuring that the "Keep iTunes Media folder organised" button is 
>>> unchecked in the advanced panel of iTunes Preferences.
>>> 2. Copying your music folders into the iTunes Media folder manually and 
>>> adding them to the iTunes Library, then deleting the original folders.
>>> 
>>> Though personally I think you'd be better off using a ID3 tagging 
>>> application to tag your files with their relevant genres and then letting 
>>> iTunes manage your music files for you. If you tagged all your practice 
>>> music as belonging to the genre of practice music then you could always 
>>> access these songs in iTunes through the grid view by selecting the genre 
>>> practice music.
>>> 
>>> Also, you may like to read the book Take Control of iTunes 10: The 
>>> Frequently Asked Questions available from the Take Control Books website or 
>>> the iBooks store.
>>> 
>>> And perhaps Esther will weigh in here and tell you a much better way of 
>>> achieving what you want. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Nic
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
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Re: what, exactly, will iTunes do to my music?

2012-10-05 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Just for clarification, the key combination of cmd-option-right arrow skips 
forward through your item and cmd-option-left arrow moves skips back in smaller 
increments.  You are correct in that you can't, though, change the playback 
rate in iTunes.  There may be a script out there that would achieve this task, 
just do a Google search on iTunes scripts and see all the interesting stuff 
people have created.  In answer to your question about putting things into 
Genres and such, it really doesn't matter if the files are in the iTunes folder 
or not, as long as they've been added to the iTunes DB, then they will be able 
to be managed by iTunes.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-10-05, at 5:55 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Thanks, everyone, for the feedback. I guess I'm reluctant to give everything 
> to iTunes completely because, sometimes, I'll play songs in vlc so I can more 
> easily skip through them (iTunes does not include keyboard shortcuts for 
> jumping around a file) and so I can, if necessary, change the key or playback 
> speed (useful for long podcasts I want to speed up). Giving iTunes my media 
> would mean a long trek into the heart of the folder structure to use an 
> alternative player when I want to. Would I still have the ability to view by 
> genre, articst, and album if I did not add my folders to the library but just 
> told iTunes where they are? That is, does it stil build a database, or do 
> folders have to be copied into the library to do that? Aside from that, I 
> suppose I must now do some thinking and figure out what my best course of 
> action is. Thanks again for your answers.
> On Oct 5, 2012, at 2:07 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
>> If you don't want iTunes to organise your music into folders for you, you 
>> can do the following:
>> 1. In iTunes Preferences under the Advanced panel make sure the "Copy files 
>> to iTunes Media folder when adding to library" button is unchecked, that is, 
>> not checked.
>> 2. Then you can add the folder where you keep all your music files to the 
>> iTunes library by going to the File menu in iTunes and selecting add to 
>> library. The songs and their locations will be added to the iTunes database 
>> so it knows where they are and can play them, but the actual files won't be 
>> moved.
>> 
>> The disadvantage of this is that you may end up with music in a bunch of 
>> different locations. Some in that original music folder, some in your iTunes 
>> Media folder if you download any music through iTunes, and some in your 
>> Downloads folder etc. This could be a hassle when you have to transfer files 
>> to a new computer etc. but So long as you're happy to keep track of all your 
>> files it shouldn't really be a problem.
>> 
>> The other way you may be able to keep your current set up is by:
>> 1. Ensuring that the "Keep iTunes Media folder organised" button is 
>> unchecked in the advanced panel of iTunes Preferences.
>> 2. Copying your music folders into the iTunes Media folder manually and 
>> adding them to the iTunes Library, then deleting the original folders.
>> 
>> Though personally I think you'd be better off using a ID3 tagging 
>> application to tag your files with their relevant genres and then letting 
>> iTunes manage your music files for you. If you tagged all your practice 
>> music as belonging to the genre of practice music then you could always 
>> access these songs in iTunes through the grid view by selecting the genre 
>> practice music.
>> 
>> Also, you may like to read the book Take Control of iTunes 10: The 
>> Frequently Asked Questions available from the Take Control Books website or 
>> the iBooks store.
>> 
>> And perhaps Esther will weigh in here and tell you a much better way of 
>> achieving what you want. 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Nic
>> 
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Re: what, exactly, will iTunes do to my music?

2012-10-05 Thread Alex Hall
Thanks, everyone, for the feedback. I guess I'm reluctant to give everything to 
iTunes completely because, sometimes, I'll play songs in vlc so I can more 
easily skip through them (iTunes does not include keyboard shortcuts for 
jumping around a file) and so I can, if necessary, change the key or playback 
speed (useful for long podcasts I want to speed up). Giving iTunes my media 
would mean a long trek into the heart of the folder structure to use an 
alternative player when I want to. Would I still have the ability to view by 
genre, articst, and album if I did not add my folders to the library but just 
told iTunes where they are? That is, does it stil build a database, or do 
folders have to be copied into the library to do that? Aside from that, I 
suppose I must now do some thinking and figure out what my best course of 
action is. Thanks again for your answers.
On Oct 5, 2012, at 2:07 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> If you don't want iTunes to organise your music into folders for you, you can 
> do the following:
> 1. In iTunes Preferences under the Advanced panel make sure the "Copy files 
> to iTunes Media folder when adding to library" button is unchecked, that is, 
> not checked.
> 2. Then you can add the folder where you keep all your music files to the 
> iTunes library by going to the File menu in iTunes and selecting add to 
> library. The songs and their locations will be added to the iTunes database 
> so it knows where they are and can play them, but the actual files won't be 
> moved.
> 
> The disadvantage of this is that you may end up with music in a bunch of 
> different locations. Some in that original music folder, some in your iTunes 
> Media folder if you download any music through iTunes, and some in your 
> Downloads folder etc. This could be a hassle when you have to transfer files 
> to a new computer etc. but So long as you're happy to keep track of all your 
> files it shouldn't really be a problem.
> 
> The other way you may be able to keep your current set up is by:
> 1. Ensuring that the "Keep iTunes Media folder organised" button is unchecked 
> in the advanced panel of iTunes Preferences.
> 2. Copying your music folders into the iTunes Media folder manually and 
> adding them to the iTunes Library, then deleting the original folders.
> 
> Though personally I think you'd be better off using a ID3 tagging application 
> to tag your files with their relevant genres and then letting iTunes manage 
> your music files for you. If you tagged all your practice music as belonging 
> to the genre of practice music then you could always access these songs in 
> iTunes through the grid view by selecting the genre practice music.
> 
> Also, you may like to read the book Take Control of iTunes 10: The Frequently 
> Asked Questions available from the Take Control Books website or the iBooks 
> store.
> 
> And perhaps Esther will weigh in here and tell you a much better way of 
> achieving what you want. 
> 
> Cheers
> Nic
> 
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what, exactly, will iTunes do to my music?

2012-10-04 Thread Nicholas Parsons
If you don't want iTunes to organise your music into folders for you, you can 
do the following:
1. In iTunes Preferences under the Advanced panel make sure the "Copy files to 
iTunes Media folder when adding to library" button is unchecked, that is, not 
checked.
2. Then you can add the folder where you keep all your music files to the 
iTunes library by going to the File menu in iTunes and selecting add to 
library. The songs and their locations will be added to the iTunes database so 
it knows where they are and can play them, but the actual files won't be moved.

The disadvantage of this is that you may end up with music in a bunch of 
different locations. Some in that original music folder, some in your iTunes 
Media folder if you download any music through iTunes, and some in your 
Downloads folder etc. This could be a hassle when you have to transfer files to 
a new computer etc. but So long as you're happy to keep track of all your files 
it shouldn't really be a problem.

The other way you may be able to keep your current set up is by:
1. Ensuring that the "Keep iTunes Media folder organised" button is unchecked 
in the advanced panel of iTunes Preferences.
2. Copying your music folders into the iTunes Media folder manually and adding 
them to the iTunes Library, then deleting the original folders.
  
Though personally I think you'd be better off using a ID3 tagging application 
to tag your files with their relevant genres and then letting iTunes manage 
your music files for you. If you tagged all your practice music as belonging to 
the genre of practice music then you could always access these songs in iTunes 
through the grid view by selecting the genre practice music.

Also, you may like to read the book Take Control of iTunes 10: The Frequently 
Asked Questions available from the Take Control Books website or the iBooks 
store.

And perhaps Esther will weigh in here and tell you a much better way of 
achieving what you want. 

Cheers
Nic

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Re: what, exactly, will iTunes do to my music?

2012-10-04 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

pointing vs copying is really a matter of preference as well.  For me, as I 
mentioned in my earlier post, I prefer iTunes to deal with my entire media 
collection.  So, I believe that letting iTunes make a copy of these items in 
its Library structure is best.  In this case, the management of all the media 
is performed within iTunes itself.  Some problems that may occur when leaving 
the music and other media elsewhere arises when you move these external folders 
and items around.  In the iTunes database, the various items have their 
locations marked and if you move them anywhere else, then iTunes can't find 
them without your intervention.  Some folks don't consider this an issue so 
leaving their music outside of the iTunes Library structure serves them well.

Does that help?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-10-04, at 7:37 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> That makes sense. My one question remains, though: what advantages are there 
> to copying music to the library versus pointing iTunes to my existing folders 
> (f, in fact, you can point to folders)? I have so far heard that you can tell 
> iTunes where to find music and it will not copy it, and that you must let 
> iTunes make a copy. Once I get this sorted, it sounds like playlists will be 
> useful. Incidentally, what is a "smart playlist" versus what I suppose one 
> would call a "normal playlist"?
> On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:10 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Brandon has answered most of your questions, but I'll chime in here with 
>> some clarifications if you don't mind.
>> 
>> I believe that you need to understand the difference between the iTunes main 
>> Library and Playlists.  The main iTunes music Library consists of all your 
>> imported music, no matter what genre, artist, or album.  You create 
>> playlists to organize music in whatever fashion you wish.  Music can belong 
>> to multiple playlists so you can create a playlist with all your practice 
>> music in it and you'd simply select that playlist when you wished to access 
>> that group of music.
>> 
>> If you allow iTunes to copy items into its directory, iTunes will organize 
>> its folder structure by looking at the tags.  It will then place the items 
>> in its Music folder by first creating a parent folder with the Artist name, 
>> then placing another folder with the Album name within that folder and then 
>> the actual song file within the Album folder.  When iTunes encounters 
>> another item by the same artist, it will place it within the same parent 
>> folder and either create a new album folder or place it in the existing 
>> album folder if one already exists.
>> 
>> All this is done for iTunes purposes only.  You create your own Playlists 
>> within the UI and organize them however you want.  The organization of the 
>> playlists does not affect the folder structure behind the scenes.  All that 
>> is happening in these multiple playlists is done within the iTunes database. 
>>  So, the database simply points the player to whatever songs it needs to 
>> play.  Therefore, having a song in 20 different playlists does not cause you 
>> to have 20 copies of the song, there is just one copy of the song pointed to 
>> 20 times.  In this manner, you can put the Beach Boys, Surfin' USA into a 
>> 60s playlist, a sunshine playlist and anything else you wish but only one 
>> song was ever imported into your Library.
>> 
>> For all the noise that I hear on this list about the pitfalls of iTunes, I 
>> think its simply a preferential thing more than a usability thing.  I use 
>> iTunes for all my media including Movies, TV shows, music, Podcasts and more 
>> and find it to be an awesome application for managing and playing my media.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> whatever else you wish with only one 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2012-10-04, at 4:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Okay, I think I'm still a bit confused as far as importing into the 
>>> library. So, I can either copy it all, or just point iTunes to my music 
>>> folders? If I do the latter, are there any risks or concerns I should know 
>>> about, such as album art popping up all over the place or files getting 
>>> moved around t be auto-sorted into artist/album folders? I don't sort by 
>>> album, I just put all music in a genre into a single folder and leave it at 
>>> that. As I said, I think iTunes will give me the best of both worlds, being 
>>> able to just sort by genre, album, or whatever, but I don't want my actual 
>>> directory structure changed around if iTunes thinks it knows best. I 
>>> realize I can just tell it to copy into the library folder, but, as I said, 
>>> that would take up a lot of hard drive space and would mean any new songs I 
>>> download from sources other than iTunes would have to be manually added. 
>>> Thanks for your help so far; this is the first time I've ever used a media 
>>> player's library feature and I am, as you can tell,

Re: what, exactly, will iTunes do to my music?

2012-10-04 Thread Alex Hall
That makes sense. My one question remains, though: what advantages are there to 
copying music to the library versus pointing iTunes to my existing folders (f, 
in fact, you can point to folders)? I have so far heard that you can tell 
iTunes where to find music and it will not copy it, and that you must let 
iTunes make a copy. Once I get this sorted, it sounds like playlists will be 
useful. Incidentally, what is a "smart playlist" versus what I suppose one 
would call a "normal playlist"?
On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:10 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Brandon has answered most of your questions, but I'll chime in here with some 
> clarifications if you don't mind.
> 
> I believe that you need to understand the difference between the iTunes main 
> Library and Playlists.  The main iTunes music Library consists of all your 
> imported music, no matter what genre, artist, or album.  You create playlists 
> to organize music in whatever fashion you wish.  Music can belong to multiple 
> playlists so you can create a playlist with all your practice music in it and 
> you'd simply select that playlist when you wished to access that group of 
> music.
> 
> If you allow iTunes to copy items into its directory, iTunes will organize 
> its folder structure by looking at the tags.  It will then place the items in 
> its Music folder by first creating a parent folder with the Artist name, then 
> placing another folder with the Album name within that folder and then the 
> actual song file within the Album folder.  When iTunes encounters another 
> item by the same artist, it will place it within the same parent folder and 
> either create a new album folder or place it in the existing album folder if 
> one already exists.
> 
> All this is done for iTunes purposes only.  You create your own Playlists 
> within the UI and organize them however you want.  The organization of the 
> playlists does not affect the folder structure behind the scenes.  All that 
> is happening in these multiple playlists is done within the iTunes database.  
> So, the database simply points the player to whatever songs it needs to play. 
>  Therefore, having a song in 20 different playlists does not cause you to 
> have 20 copies of the song, there is just one copy of the song pointed to 20 
> times.  In this manner, you can put the Beach Boys, Surfin' USA into a 60s 
> playlist, a sunshine playlist and anything else you wish but only one song 
> was ever imported into your Library.
> 
> For all the noise that I hear on this list about the pitfalls of iTunes, I 
> think its simply a preferential thing more than a usability thing.  I use 
> iTunes for all my media including Movies, TV shows, music, Podcasts and more 
> and find it to be an awesome application for managing and playing my media.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> whatever else you wish with only one 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-10-04, at 4:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Okay, I think I'm still a bit confused as far as importing into the library. 
>> So, I can either copy it all, or just point iTunes to my music folders? If I 
>> do the latter, are there any risks or concerns I should know about, such as 
>> album art popping up all over the place or files getting moved around t be 
>> auto-sorted into artist/album folders? I don't sort by album, I just put all 
>> music in a genre into a single folder and leave it at that. As I said, I 
>> think iTunes will give me the best of both worlds, being able to just sort 
>> by genre, album, or whatever, but I don't want my actual directory structure 
>> changed around if iTunes thinks it knows best. I realize I can just tell it 
>> to copy into the library folder, but, as I said, that would take up a lot of 
>> hard drive space and would mean any new songs I download from sources other 
>> than iTunes would have to be manually added. Thanks for your help so far; 
>> this is the first time I've ever used a media player's library feature and I 
>> am, as you can tell, unsure of how it all works.
>> On Oct 4, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> You could put it all under a particular playlist, but you'd still have to 
>>> exclude it from the rest of your music. Honestly, I'd just not put that 
>>> practice music in iTunes at all.
>>> 
>>> Although, now that I think of it, you can set the genre to something like 
>>> Speech or some other rarely used genre, and have a smart playlist exclude 
>>> that genre.
>>> 
>>> Also, you don't have to select the option to import it into the iTunes 
>>> library folder. I prefer it because you always know where to find it.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Brandon Olivares
>>> Azavia Technologies
>>> New: ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
>>> On Oct 4, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 Okay, that's good and bad in a way. I have so much media that duplicating 
 it all will take up a lot of room, but I suppose it beats having to worry 
 about messing up my original 

Re: what, exactly, will iTunes do to my music?

2012-10-04 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Brandon has answered most of your questions, but I'll chime in here with some 
clarifications if you don't mind.

I believe that you need to understand the difference between the iTunes main 
Library and Playlists.  The main iTunes music Library consists of all your 
imported music, no matter what genre, artist, or album.  You create playlists 
to organize music in whatever fashion you wish.  Music can belong to multiple 
playlists so you can create a playlist with all your practice music in it and 
you'd simply select that playlist when you wished to access that group of music.

If you allow iTunes to copy items into its directory, iTunes will organize its 
folder structure by looking at the tags.  It will then place the items in its 
Music folder by first creating a parent folder with the Artist name, then 
placing another folder with the Album name within that folder and then the 
actual song file within the Album folder.  When iTunes encounters another item 
by the same artist, it will place it within the same parent folder and either 
create a new album folder or place it in the existing album folder if one 
already exists.

All this is done for iTunes purposes only.  You create your own Playlists 
within the UI and organize them however you want.  The organization of the 
playlists does not affect the folder structure behind the scenes.  All that is 
happening in these multiple playlists is done within the iTunes database.  So, 
the database simply points the player to whatever songs it needs to play.  
Therefore, having a song in 20 different playlists does not cause you to have 
20 copies of the song, there is just one copy of the song pointed to 20 times.  
In this manner, you can put the Beach Boys, Surfin' USA into a 60s playlist, a 
sunshine playlist and anything else you wish but only one song was ever 
imported into your Library.

For all the noise that I hear on this list about the pitfalls of iTunes, I 
think its simply a preferential thing more than a usability thing.  I use 
iTunes for all my media including Movies, TV shows, music, Podcasts and more 
and find it to be an awesome application for managing and playing my media.

HTH.

Later...
whatever else you wish with only one 
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-10-04, at 4:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Okay, I think I'm still a bit confused as far as importing into the library. 
> So, I can either copy it all, or just point iTunes to my music folders? If I 
> do the latter, are there any risks or concerns I should know about, such as 
> album art popping up all over the place or files getting moved around t be 
> auto-sorted into artist/album folders? I don't sort by album, I just put all 
> music in a genre into a single folder and leave it at that. As I said, I 
> think iTunes will give me the best of both worlds, being able to just sort by 
> genre, album, or whatever, but I don't want my actual directory structure 
> changed around if iTunes thinks it knows best. I realize I can just tell it 
> to copy into the library folder, but, as I said, that would take up a lot of 
> hard drive space and would mean any new songs I download from sources other 
> than iTunes would have to be manually added. Thanks for your help so far; 
> this is the first time I've ever used a media player's library feature and I 
> am, as you can tell, unsure of how it all works.
> On Oct 4, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
>> You could put it all under a particular playlist, but you'd still have to 
>> exclude it from the rest of your music. Honestly, I'd just not put that 
>> practice music in iTunes at all.
>> 
>> Although, now that I think of it, you can set the genre to something like 
>> Speech or some other rarely used genre, and have a smart playlist exclude 
>> that genre.
>> 
>> Also, you don't have to select the option to import it into the iTunes 
>> library folder. I prefer it because you always know where to find it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Brandon Olivares
>> Azavia Technologies
>> New: ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
>> On Oct 4, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Okay, that's good and bad in a way. I have so much media that duplicating 
>>> it all will take up a lot of room, but I suppose it beats having to worry 
>>> about messing up my original copies.
>>> 
>>> You said it will not touch any directories I have. So, then, how could I 
>>> tell all my practice music to be classified as some special music? I 
>>> suppose I could use an id3 editor to force all songs to be part of a 
>>> certain album or something, but is there a better way?
>>> On Oct 4, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
 
 iTunes will not do anything to your music. It is all configurable with the 
 options in preferences.
 
 1. No, it will not be converted.
 2. It is an option to copy it to the iTunes library and organize it under 
 there, but even if it does so, it does not touch your origi

Re: what, exactly, will iTunes do to my music?

2012-10-04 Thread Timothy Clark Music
i wouldn't use iTunes as it makes duplicates and personally i hate that. also, 
let's say there are two people singing on one track, it will put it in it's own 
folder instead of putting it in a discography or something. 
 hope this helps
God Bless. 
 Timothy. 
 Your friend in the music industry  
 http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com 
 7244011224

On Oct 4, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

> Okay, I think I'm still a bit confused as far as importing into the library. 
> So, I can either copy it all, or just point iTunes to my music folders? If I 
> do the latter, are there any risks or concerns I should know about, such as 
> album art popping up all over the place or files getting moved around t be 
> auto-sorted into artist/album folders? I don't sort by album, I just put all 
> music in a genre into a single folder and leave it at that. As I said, I 
> think iTunes will give me the best of both worlds, being able to just sort by 
> genre, album, or whatever, but I don't want my actual directory structure 
> changed around if iTunes thinks it knows best. I realize I can just tell it 
> to copy into the library folder, but, as I said, that would take up a lot of 
> hard drive space and would mean any new songs I download from sources other 
> than iTunes would have to be manually added. Thanks for your help so far; 
> this is the first time I've ever used a media player's library feature and I 
> am, as you can tell, unsure of how it all works.
> On Oct 4, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
>> You could put it all under a particular playlist, but you'd still have to 
>> exclude it from the rest of your music. Honestly, I'd just not put that 
>> practice music in iTunes at all.
>> 
>> Although, now that I think of it, you can set the genre to something like 
>> Speech or some other rarely used genre, and have a smart playlist exclude 
>> that genre.
>> 
>> Also, you don't have to select the option to import it into the iTunes 
>> library folder. I prefer it because you always know where to find it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Brandon Olivares
>> Azavia Technologies
>> New: ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
>> On Oct 4, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Okay, that's good and bad in a way. I have so much media that duplicating 
>>> it all will take up a lot of room, but I suppose it beats having to worry 
>>> about messing up my original copies.
>>> 
>>> You said it will not touch any directories I have. So, then, how could I 
>>> tell all my practice music to be classified as some special music? I 
>>> suppose I could use an id3 editor to force all songs to be part of a 
>>> certain album or something, but is there a better way?
>>> On Oct 4, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
 
 iTunes will not do anything to your music. It is all configurable with the 
 options in preferences.
 
 1. No, it will not be converted.
 2. It is an option to copy it to the iTunes library and organize it under 
 there, but even if it does so, it does not touch your original copy.
 3. It doesn't care about folders nor will it touch any file or directory 
 you create. If it copies it to its own library, then it is in charge of 
 organizing that folder obviously.
 4. You can delete songs from iTunes without deleting the file itself.
 5. The grid view will allow you to browse by album, artist, genre, etc.
 
 Regards,
 Brandon Olivares
 Azavia Technologies
 New: ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
 On Oct 4, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> I'd like to be able to add all my music to iTunes (and there's a whole 
> lot of it), but I have some concerns.
> 1. Will it all be converted to m4a or aac? What about unsupported 
> formats, like wma or ogg?
> 2. Will it be copied to the iTunes library, or will iTunes just look in 
> the folders to which I point it?
> 3. Will it honor folders I make? Some music is ripped from CDs I use for 
> practicing songs on bass or guitar, so it has no artist or album meta 
> data. However, I keep it separate from my other music as most of it is 
> shifted to new keys and so sounds rather odd. In other words, I need to 
> keep it separate, or at least flagged somehow, so it does not play with 
> my normal music. I categorize a lot of music like this, such as putting 
> it in a comedy or country folder in my music folder. What will iTunes do 
> about that?
> 4. If I decide I want to get rid of music from iTunes, can I do so with 
> no erasing of anything?
> 5. In iTunes, can I view by song, artist, album, and so on like I can on 
> my iPod? I tried this with the few songs already in the library, but 
> could not see a way to do it.
> Thanks for any help. I'm normally no fan of iTunes, but I must say I like 
> the remote control on the Apple earbuds and being able to sync certain 
> songs wi

Re: what, exactly, will iTunes do to my music?

2012-10-04 Thread Alex Hall
Okay, I think I'm still a bit confused as far as importing into the library. 
So, I can either copy it all, or just point iTunes to my music folders? If I do 
the latter, are there any risks or concerns I should know about, such as album 
art popping up all over the place or files getting moved around t be 
auto-sorted into artist/album folders? I don't sort by album, I just put all 
music in a genre into a single folder and leave it at that. As I said, I think 
iTunes will give me the best of both worlds, being able to just sort by genre, 
album, or whatever, but I don't want my actual directory structure changed 
around if iTunes thinks it knows best. I realize I can just tell it to copy 
into the library folder, but, as I said, that would take up a lot of hard drive 
space and would mean any new songs I download from sources other than iTunes 
would have to be manually added. Thanks for your help so far; this is the first 
time I've ever used a media player's library feature and I am, as you can tell, 
unsure of how it all works.
On Oct 4, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

> You could put it all under a particular playlist, but you'd still have to 
> exclude it from the rest of your music. Honestly, I'd just not put that 
> practice music in iTunes at all.
> 
> Although, now that I think of it, you can set the genre to something like 
> Speech or some other rarely used genre, and have a smart playlist exclude 
> that genre.
> 
> Also, you don't have to select the option to import it into the iTunes 
> library folder. I prefer it because you always know where to find it.
> 
> Regards,
> Brandon Olivares
> Azavia Technologies
> New: ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
> On Oct 4, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Okay, that's good and bad in a way. I have so much media that duplicating it 
>> all will take up a lot of room, but I suppose it beats having to worry about 
>> messing up my original copies.
>> 
>> You said it will not touch any directories I have. So, then, how could I 
>> tell all my practice music to be classified as some special music? I suppose 
>> I could use an id3 editor to force all songs to be part of a certain album 
>> or something, but is there a better way?
>> On Oct 4, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> iTunes will not do anything to your music. It is all configurable with the 
>>> options in preferences.
>>> 
>>> 1. No, it will not be converted.
>>> 2. It is an option to copy it to the iTunes library and organize it under 
>>> there, but even if it does so, it does not touch your original copy.
>>> 3. It doesn't care about folders nor will it touch any file or directory 
>>> you create. If it copies it to its own library, then it is in charge of 
>>> organizing that folder obviously.
>>> 4. You can delete songs from iTunes without deleting the file itself.
>>> 5. The grid view will allow you to browse by album, artist, genre, etc.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Brandon Olivares
>>> Azavia Technologies
>>> New: ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
>>> On Oct 4, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 I'd like to be able to add all my music to iTunes (and there's a whole lot 
 of it), but I have some concerns.
 1. Will it all be converted to m4a or aac? What about unsupported formats, 
 like wma or ogg?
 2. Will it be copied to the iTunes library, or will iTunes just look in 
 the folders to which I point it?
 3. Will it honor folders I make? Some music is ripped from CDs I use for 
 practicing songs on bass or guitar, so it has no artist or album meta 
 data. However, I keep it separate from my other music as most of it is 
 shifted to new keys and so sounds rather odd. In other words, I need to 
 keep it separate, or at least flagged somehow, so it does not play with my 
 normal music. I categorize a lot of music like this, such as putting it in 
 a comedy or country folder in my music folder. What will iTunes do about 
 that?
 4. If I decide I want to get rid of music from iTunes, can I do so with no 
 erasing of anything?
 5. In iTunes, can I view by song, artist, album, and so on like I can on 
 my iPod? I tried this with the few songs already in the library, but could 
 not see a way to do it.
 Thanks for any help. I'm normally no fan of iTunes, but I must say I like 
 the remote control on the Apple earbuds and being able to sync certain 
 songs with my iPod to have them with me, particularly with the wifi sync 
 option.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: what, exactly, will iTunes do to my music?

2012-10-04 Thread Brandon Olivares
You could put it all under a particular playlist, but you'd still have to 
exclude it from the rest of your music. Honestly, I'd just not put that 
practice music in iTunes at all.

Although, now that I think of it, you can set the genre to something like 
Speech or some other rarely used genre, and have a smart playlist exclude that 
genre.

Also, you don't have to select the option to import it into the iTunes library 
folder. I prefer it because you always know where to find it.

Regards,
Brandon Olivares
Azavia Technologies
New: ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
On Oct 4, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Okay, that's good and bad in a way. I have so much media that duplicating it 
> all will take up a lot of room, but I suppose it beats having to worry about 
> messing up my original copies.
> 
> You said it will not touch any directories I have. So, then, how could I tell 
> all my practice music to be classified as some special music? I suppose I 
> could use an id3 editor to force all songs to be part of a certain album or 
> something, but is there a better way?
> On Oct 4, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> iTunes will not do anything to your music. It is all configurable with the 
>> options in preferences.
>> 
>> 1. No, it will not be converted.
>> 2. It is an option to copy it to the iTunes library and organize it under 
>> there, but even if it does so, it does not touch your original copy.
>> 3. It doesn't care about folders nor will it touch any file or directory you 
>> create. If it copies it to its own library, then it is in charge of 
>> organizing that folder obviously.
>> 4. You can delete songs from iTunes without deleting the file itself.
>> 5. The grid view will allow you to browse by album, artist, genre, etc.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Brandon Olivares
>> Azavia Technologies
>> New: ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
>> On Oct 4, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'd like to be able to add all my music to iTunes (and there's a whole lot 
>>> of it), but I have some concerns.
>>> 1. Will it all be converted to m4a or aac? What about unsupported formats, 
>>> like wma or ogg?
>>> 2. Will it be copied to the iTunes library, or will iTunes just look in the 
>>> folders to which I point it?
>>> 3. Will it honor folders I make? Some music is ripped from CDs I use for 
>>> practicing songs on bass or guitar, so it has no artist or album meta data. 
>>> However, I keep it separate from my other music as most of it is shifted to 
>>> new keys and so sounds rather odd. In other words, I need to keep it 
>>> separate, or at least flagged somehow, so it does not play with my normal 
>>> music. I categorize a lot of music like this, such as putting it in a 
>>> comedy or country folder in my music folder. What will iTunes do about that?
>>> 4. If I decide I want to get rid of music from iTunes, can I do so with no 
>>> erasing of anything?
>>> 5. In iTunes, can I view by song, artist, album, and so on like I can on my 
>>> iPod? I tried this with the few songs already in the library, but could not 
>>> see a way to do it.
>>> Thanks for any help. I'm normally no fan of iTunes, but I must say I like 
>>> the remote control on the Apple earbuds and being able to sync certain 
>>> songs with my iPod to have them with me, particularly with the wifi sync 
>>> option.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: what, exactly, will iTunes do to my music?

2012-10-04 Thread Alex Hall
Okay, that's good and bad in a way. I have so much media that duplicating it 
all will take up a lot of room, but I suppose it beats having to worry about 
messing up my original copies.

You said it will not touch any directories I have. So, then, how could I tell 
all my practice music to be classified as some special music? I suppose I could 
use an id3 editor to force all songs to be part of a certain album or 
something, but is there a better way?
On Oct 4, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> iTunes will not do anything to your music. It is all configurable with the 
> options in preferences.
> 
> 1. No, it will not be converted.
> 2. It is an option to copy it to the iTunes library and organize it under 
> there, but even if it does so, it does not touch your original copy.
> 3. It doesn't care about folders nor will it touch any file or directory you 
> create. If it copies it to its own library, then it is in charge of 
> organizing that folder obviously.
> 4. You can delete songs from iTunes without deleting the file itself.
> 5. The grid view will allow you to browse by album, artist, genre, etc.
> 
> Regards,
> Brandon Olivares
> Azavia Technologies
> New: ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
> On Oct 4, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I'd like to be able to add all my music to iTunes (and there's a whole lot 
>> of it), but I have some concerns.
>> 1. Will it all be converted to m4a or aac? What about unsupported formats, 
>> like wma or ogg?
>> 2. Will it be copied to the iTunes library, or will iTunes just look in the 
>> folders to which I point it?
>> 3. Will it honor folders I make? Some music is ripped from CDs I use for 
>> practicing songs on bass or guitar, so it has no artist or album meta data. 
>> However, I keep it separate from my other music as most of it is shifted to 
>> new keys and so sounds rather odd. In other words, I need to keep it 
>> separate, or at least flagged somehow, so it does not play with my normal 
>> music. I categorize a lot of music like this, such as putting it in a comedy 
>> or country folder in my music folder. What will iTunes do about that?
>> 4. If I decide I want to get rid of music from iTunes, can I do so with no 
>> erasing of anything?
>> 5. In iTunes, can I view by song, artist, album, and so on like I can on my 
>> iPod? I tried this with the few songs already in the library, but could not 
>> see a way to do it.
>> Thanks for any help. I'm normally no fan of iTunes, but I must say I like 
>> the remote control on the Apple earbuds and being able to sync certain songs 
>> with my iPod to have them with me, particularly with the wifi sync option.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: what, exactly, will iTunes do to my music?

2012-10-04 Thread Brandon Olivares
Hello,

iTunes will not do anything to your music. It is all configurable with the 
options in preferences.

1. No, it will not be converted.
2. It is an option to copy it to the iTunes library and organize it under 
there, but even if it does so, it does not touch your original copy.
3. It doesn't care about folders nor will it touch any file or directory you 
create. If it copies it to its own library, then it is in charge of organizing 
that folder obviously.
4. You can delete songs from iTunes without deleting the file itself.
5. The grid view will allow you to browse by album, artist, genre, etc.

Regards,
Brandon Olivares
Azavia Technologies
New: ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
On Oct 4, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'd like to be able to add all my music to iTunes (and there's a whole lot of 
> it), but I have some concerns.
> 1. Will it all be converted to m4a or aac? What about unsupported formats, 
> like wma or ogg?
> 2. Will it be copied to the iTunes library, or will iTunes just look in the 
> folders to which I point it?
> 3. Will it honor folders I make? Some music is ripped from CDs I use for 
> practicing songs on bass or guitar, so it has no artist or album meta data. 
> However, I keep it separate from my other music as most of it is shifted to 
> new keys and so sounds rather odd. In other words, I need to keep it 
> separate, or at least flagged somehow, so it does not play with my normal 
> music. I categorize a lot of music like this, such as putting it in a comedy 
> or country folder in my music folder. What will iTunes do about that?
> 4. If I decide I want to get rid of music from iTunes, can I do so with no 
> erasing of anything?
> 5. In iTunes, can I view by song, artist, album, and so on like I can on my 
> iPod? I tried this with the few songs already in the library, but could not 
> see a way to do it.
> Thanks for any help. I'm normally no fan of iTunes, but I must say I like the 
> remote control on the Apple earbuds and being able to sync certain songs with 
> my iPod to have them with me, particularly with the wifi sync option.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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what, exactly, will iTunes do to my music?

2012-10-04 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I'd like to be able to add all my music to iTunes (and there's a whole lot of 
it), but I have some concerns.
1. Will it all be converted to m4a or aac? What about unsupported formats, like 
wma or ogg?
2. Will it be copied to the iTunes library, or will iTunes just look in the 
folders to which I point it?
3. Will it honor folders I make? Some music is ripped from CDs I use for 
practicing songs on bass or guitar, so it has no artist or album meta data. 
However, I keep it separate from my other music as most of it is shifted to new 
keys and so sounds rather odd. In other words, I need to keep it separate, or 
at least flagged somehow, so it does not play with my normal music. I 
categorize a lot of music like this, such as putting it in a comedy or country 
folder in my music folder. What will iTunes do about that?
4. If I decide I want to get rid of music from iTunes, can I do so with no 
erasing of anything?
5. In iTunes, can I view by song, artist, album, and so on like I can on my 
iPod? I tried this with the few songs already in the library, but could not see 
a way to do it.
Thanks for any help. I'm normally no fan of iTunes, but I must say I like the 
remote control on the Apple earbuds and being able to sync certain songs with 
my iPod to have them with me, particularly with the wifi sync option.


Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
mehg...@gmail.com



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