Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia 770 software image available
Hi, Am Freitag, den 28.10.2005, 19:51 +0200 schrieb Dirk Behme: > Team maemo wrote: > > Greetings! > > > > The original Nokia 770 software image is available from > > http://www.maemo.org/downloads/nokia_770 . > > The version is 0.2005.40-18 . Thanks a lot! > Any hints how to use this with flasher? sudo ./flasher --flash -F Nokia_770_0.2005.40-18.bin --enable-rd-mode -R worked here. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim "nomeata" Breitner mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Key: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.joachim-breitner.de/ Debian Developer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia 770 software image available
Team maemo wrote: Greetings! The original Nokia 770 software image is available from http://www.maemo.org/downloads/nokia_770 . The version is 0.2005.40-18 . Thanks! Any hints how to use this with flasher? Is it a jffs2 image like Maemo_Dev_Platform_rootfs_v1.1rc5.jffs2 and it can be used with 'flasher -r'? Or is Nokia_770_0.2005.40-18.bin more than a jffs2 image and other flasher options are necessary? Thanks Dirk ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia 770 software image available
Hi, Thanks for putting this up, I managed to get hold of an image myself, but if there are many B4 units out there maybe you could also post the latest B4 image on there? Christian On Fri, 2005-10-28 at 17:01 +0300, Team maemo wrote: > Greetings! > > The original Nokia 770 software image is available from > http://www.maemo.org/downloads/nokia_770 . > The version is 0.2005.40-18 . > > Regards, > maemo team > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Problem with Maemo's version of GTK
Hello again,
Thanks a lot for replying, I really was near going postal ;-)
> You should replace the g_assert above with 'g_assert (GDK_IS_PIXMAP
> (pixmap))'
>
> If it fails you need to track down where the supposedly valid pixmap
> object gets turned into an invalid pointer. Is it properly initialized
> in the first place? Does it get destroyed for one reason or another in
> between?
I now check with "g_assert (GDK_IS_PIXMAP(pixmap))" straight after
creation of the pixmap and just before gdk_pixmap_ref(), and it never
asserts but fails again at gdk_pixmap_ref.
Hmmm... strange since I first thought that could be since the
JNI-implementation of the JVM maybe does some weird things on ARM, but
since it passes GDK_IS_PIXMAP am I right to assume that the pointer is
ok?
Thanks again, lg Clemens
Creation-time:
---
if (offScreen (env, obj) == JNI_FALSE)
{
GdkPixmap* pix = gdk_pixbuf_new (GDK_COLORSPACE_RGB, TRUE, 8,
width, height);
g_assert(GDK_IS_PIXMAP(pix));
createRawData (env, obj, pix);
}
else
{
GdkPixmap* pix = gdk_pixmap_new (NULL, width, height,
gdk_rgb_get_visual ()->depth);
g_assert(GDK_IS_PIXMAP(pix));
createRawData (env, obj, pix);
}
Use-Time:
-
pixmap = cp_gtk_image_get_pixmap (env, source);
g_assert(pixmap != NULL);
g_assert(GDK_IS_PIXMAP(pixmap));
gdk_pixmap_ref (pixmap);
<> Dies here with message: "g_object_ref:
assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed"
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Re: [maemo-developers] Using keyboard in non gtk applications
Ivan Serduk wrote: How can I use keyboard in non gtk applications? The problem is to popup virtual keyboard and receive events from it. Hi. This might be better answered on maemo-users list. This list about developing maemo itself. ;) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: compatibility vs speed and bloat Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed
On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 20:34 +0200, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: > > There should be other reason for using glibc, like that it is better and > not slower or not substantialy bigger or something like this :-) Or > maybe you cannot compile Opera of Flash player with it. GTK and xfree > seems to work at least on i386 I'm sure there are, I just can't comment on the exact details as I wasn't evaluating libc. My guess would be maturity, wider developer base and better localisation support. But maybe we can get someone with the details offer a few words? -- Tommi Komulainen<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed
On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 11:31 +0300, ext Eero Tamminen wrote: > Hi, > > >> My suggestion: Forget about this as long as you don't offer a similar > >> feature to replace the builtin stock icons. > > My guess would be that Tommi has some long term plan to fix this > properly when there's time. :-) The longer term plan, or at least an idea, is to fix this correctly by replacing the builtin stock icons with our own as the gtk+ icons don't match the overall look anyway and are of different size etc. Unfortunately our infinite number of mon^Wartists can't produce quality graphics in such a short notice (one of the things we should've planned better, but mistakes happen.) The memory problem exists and can be fixed now. With little more effort it can be fixed even without the side effects everyone is worried about. The quick fix exists now, it was never intended to be the final version. It just takes longer to come up with the "right" fix, with your help it'll happen faster. -- Tommi Komulainen<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Using keyboard in non gtk applications
How can I use keyboard in non gtk applications? The problem is to popup virtual keyboard and receive events from it. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed
On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 13:49 +0200, ext Florian Boor wrote: > Tommi Komulainen wrote: > > There's probably a more simple solution to make stock icons work well; > > just add "gtk-bold.png" and similarly named files in the hicolor icon > > theme and things should just work. However the current solution works > > that's a good idea... expecially because you can ship properly looking icons, > but you can't do this by installing a package which makes this good solution > pretty useless :-( Umm.. installing icons under /var/lib/install... is supposed to be working. It may be that XDG_DATA_DIRS has wrong value in the release that was included in the developer devices, but in later releases '/var/lib/install/share:/var/lib/install/usr/share' is appended so icons should work. (User-installed themes should also work, though I'm not sure the personalization applet can handle them.) -- Tommi Komulainen<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] art.maemo.org coming soon...?
Oops, I was in wrong day, Ferenc had answered this already... Sorry ;D >-Original Message- >From: Salminen Karoliina.T (Nokia-M/Helsinki) >Sent: 28 October, 2005 17:33 >To: maemo-developers >Subject: RE: [maemo-developers] art.maemo.org coming soon...? > >Hello, ... >Best Wishes, >Karoliina ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] art.maemo.org coming soon...?
Hello, I think Ferenc said it was depending on some license issue in the art-engine, and the schedule depends on the authors of the art-engine I guess (if I undestood it right). I have some backgrounds waiting though, so when it becomes available, they will get there :). In the mean time, they may appear to my blog... As a off-topic comment btw, I just updated my flashing/dev-stuff instructions to my blog. Best Wishes, Karoliina http://www.karoliinasalminen.com/blog >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext >Florian Boor >Sent: 26 October, 2005 20:46 >To: maemo-developers >Subject: [maemo-developers] art.maemo.org coming soon...? > >Hello... > >one more time :-) > >Do we have a more precise definition of "soon"? > >I'm just curious, we discussed that service for artworks >for/around maemo via IRC while starting to exchange background images. >That would be really nice to have soon - i can imagine both >developers and users will like it. > >Greetings > >Florian > >-- >The dream of yesterday Florian Boor >is the hope of todayTel: 0271-771091-14 >and the reality of tomorrow.Fax: 0271-771091-19 >[Robert Hutchings Goddard, 1904][EMAIL PROTECTED] > >6C 44 30 4C 43 20 6B 61 16 07 0F AA E6 97 70 A8 > >___ >maemo-developers mailing list >maemo-developers@maemo.org >https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Problem with Maemo's version of GTK
On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 12:49 +, ext Clemens Eisserer wrote: > Hello again, > > While playing a bit with classpath-based jvm's on my 770 I found a > quite interresting problem I can't explain myself. > > When I try to create an offscreen-image in java I get the following assertion: > jamvm[1625]: GLIB CRITICAL ** GLib-GObject - g_object_ref: assertion > `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed [...] > Source-Code of initFromImage: > - > pixmap = cp_gtk_image_get_pixmap (env, source); <-> Just > returns the pixmap pointer from the java-code > g_assert(pixmap != NULL); > gdk_pixmap_ref (pixmap); You should replace the g_assert above with 'g_assert (GDK_IS_PIXMAP (pixmap))' If it fails you need to track down where the supposedly valid pixmap object gets turned into an invalid pointer. Is it properly initialized in the first place? Does it get destroyed for one reason or another in between? -- Tommi Komulainen<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Nokia 770 software image available
Greetings! The original Nokia 770 software image is available from http://www.maemo.org/downloads/nokia_770 . The version is 0.2005.40-18 . Regards, maemo team ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Cairo benchmarking
On 10/28/05, Andreas Orfanos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think someone can speed up the whole thing by > using OpenGL ES (fixed point). > > I found this project link from MesaProject website > > http://ogl-es.sourceforge.net/ > > What do you think? +1 -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri --- Computer Engineer 2001 - UNICAMP GPSL - Grupo Pro Software Livre Cell..: +55 (19) 9165 8010 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 17249123 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: gsbarbieri GPG: 0xB640E1A2 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Cairo benchmarking
I think someone can speed up the whole thing by using OpenGL ES (fixed point). I found this project link from MesaProject website http://ogl-es.sourceforge.net/ What do you think? AndreasOn 10/28/05, Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 28 October 2005 10:08, Kalle Vahlman wrote:> 2005/10/28, Clemens Eisserer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> > Btw. a simple test to see wether its really the FP API which causes > > the bad performance would be to render the whole stuff into a very> > small surface and see wether the performance improves a lot.>> I was going to test it with different xlib surface size but since the > older SW did not allow me to kill matchbox without rebooting the whole> thing and matchbox is kind enough to maximize the window regardless...Just stop matchbox with dsmetool if you want to avoid reboot. --Riku___maemo-developers mailing listmaemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] maemo gstreamer
Hi there. I'm porting gpe-announce an application that gpe-calendar uses to play scheduled alarms. Some times ago i added the support for gstreamer to play all supported media files. This works under gpe, but i really don't know what gst elements i can use on n770. As currently there is no documentation at the moment about multimedia system, is there anyone that can help me? Regards, Luca ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Cairo benchmarking
On Friday 28 October 2005 10:08, Kalle Vahlman wrote: > 2005/10/28, Clemens Eisserer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Btw. a simple test to see wether its really the FP API which causes > > the bad performance would be to render the whole stuff into a very > > small surface and see wether the performance improves a lot. > > I was going to test it with different xlib surface size but since the > older SW did not allow me to kill matchbox without rebooting the whole > thing and matchbox is kind enough to maximize the window regardless... Just stop matchbox with dsmetool if you want to avoid reboot. -- Riku ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Cairo benchmarking
2005/10/28, Matthew Allum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 10/28/05, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I was going to test it with different xlib surface size but since the > > older SW did not allow me to kill matchbox without rebooting the whole > > thing and matchbox is kind enough to maximize the window regardless... > > > > You cant make the test window a dialog or even a nasty overide > redirect ? Last time I checked matchbox only 'maximises' application > windows and supports many other window types than just application > ones Yeah, that's another solution. But I didn't bother to change the program at that time since it was old platform anyway (not accurate data for the real current situation) and just killing the wm with a particular flag set to prevent booting would've been easier. Probably will do it when I rerun some tests on newer stuff. -- Kalle Vahlman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by http://movial.fi ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Cairo benchmarking
On 10/28/05, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was going to test it with different xlib surface size but since the > older SW did not allow me to kill matchbox without rebooting the whole > thing and matchbox is kind enough to maximize the window regardless... > You cant make the test window a dialog or even a nasty overide redirect ? Last time I checked matchbox only 'maximises' application windows and supports many other window types than just application ones -- Matthew ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Hot to get a Nokia 770 Device for Developing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nils Faerber wrote: > Justin Bradford schrieb: > >>>On 10/20/05, Nils Faerber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Oh, BTW: Please be cautious with the names... it is *not* N770, it is called Nokia 770. There is also a mobile phone series of Nokia which is the N* series and must not be confused with the 770 internet tablet device... just as a hint... >>> >>>Dear god, are you serious? > > > Quite ;) > > >>>I've been telling people that this new Nokia 770 thing looks amazing >>>for months now. Is it possible that I've suggesting they buy some >>>random phone? >>>Surely the N770 describes a unique product from Nokia, yes? > > > He ;) > It is not that bad. In fact there is no N770 but only the Nokia 770, so > it cannot be confused. But N-series is simply a phone series. So that must be why I see loads of "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; ; Linux armv5tejl; U) Opera 8.02 [en] N770/SU-18_0.2005.40-1_PR" in my apache logs ;) regards, Koen > > >>>Justin > > Cheers > nils faerber > > -- > kernel concepts Tel: +49-271-771091-12 > Dreisbachstr. 24 Fax: +49-271-771091-19 > D-57250 Netphen Mob: +49-176-21024535 > -- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDYhBEMkyGM64RGpERAm5pAJ9FtfFQna2CGHNGVYGfNRghunmuBwCgm3rX iqVuN8xn5XbfDfDDXqWzqtA= =TpiK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Cairo benchmarking
Hi; On 10/28/05, Clemens Eisserer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wonder why the API should make such a bit difference - I am quite > sure that cpu/memory throughput is far more a problem. The ARM9 in tne > 770 is quite a bit, well, turkey ... and to fill a 100x100 shape which > is quite a bit more complex than a rectangle needs many million > cylcles. An FP API will make a difference if your calling it thousands of times ( i.e in an animation ). Of course this is only one factor as I previously mentioned but believe me FP operations really hurt on hardfloat ARM - a simple timed test of adding ints vs floats will prove this. > You can see this when benchmarking the X11 implementation of the > device - quite nice but to fill a larger pixmap with a color takes > ages of course. > I depends on *how* you paint that pixmap of course. Using a 'core' X fillrect should be pretty fast. Doing the same thing via cairo is going to be slower - it offers much more feature wise that 'core' X cannot do and as not yet fully optimised basic operations may not be 'fast pathed'. -- Matthew ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Eclipse plugin for maemo
Wow, thats really great. Thanks for sending this news, wow this plugin seems to be great! I'll give it a try as soon as I am at home. Sad that Eclipse UI performs so bad on my Linux machine :-( Thanks, lg Clemens > The Laika project has released version 1.1 that functions better with the > new maemo version (1.1). More features have been involved to the plugin. > E.g. importing projects. Check web pages for more information.. > > http://www.cs.tut.fi/~laika > or > http://kooditakomo.cs.tut.fi/projects/laika/ > > For the laika team > -Mikko > > # ID: Mikko Kuusipalo# Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > # Tel: +358443785869 # WWW: www.students.tut.fi/~kuusipal > --The only thing more accurate than incoming enemy fire is incoming friendly >fire > -Murphy's Military Law #13 > > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Eclipse plugin for maemo
The Laika project has released version 1.1 that functions better with the new maemo version (1.1). More features have been involved to the plugin. E.g. importing projects. Check web pages for more information.. http://www.cs.tut.fi/~laika or http://kooditakomo.cs.tut.fi/projects/laika/ For the laika team -Mikko # ID: Mikko Kuusipalo# Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Tel: +358443785869 # WWW: www.students.tut.fi/~kuusipal --The only thing more accurate than incoming enemy fire is incoming friendly fire -Murphy's Military Law #13 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Warning. Installing Maemo Development Platform
Am Freitag, den 28.10.2005, 10:34 +0200 schrieb Joachim Breitner: > Same thing happened to me (actually by accident, I had flasher running > in "waiting for USB" device while figuring out that I had to turn it on > plugged in). > > Also, I am surprised to see that the /home directory is not on an extra > mount point. How is the end user then supposed to upgrade his device > without losing his data? There is a backup applet in the control center for backing up data to the MMC. But you're right. Having /home on an extra mount point would be a good idea. Regards, Martin ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Warning. Installing Maemo Development Platform
Am Freitag, den 28.10.2005, 09:00 +0200 schrieb Sjoerd Simons: > Yeah, but it would be nice if the production root image was available. So one > can switch between SDK and production when needed. > > Personally i flashed the SDK image to play with it a little and see what's > available. Assuming i could flash back the production one when i wanted. But > now the production rootfs is removed from the nokia site and i'm ``stuck'' > with > the SDK... Same thing happened to me (actually by accident, I had flasher running in "waiting for USB" device while figuring out that I had to turn it on plugged in). Also, I am surprised to see that the /home directory is not on an extra mount point. How is the end user then supposed to upgrade his device without losing his data? Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim "nomeata" Breitner mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Key: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.joachim-breitner.de/ Debian Developer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Cairo benchmarking
2005/10/28, Clemens Eisserer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Btw. a simple test to see wether its really the FP API which causes > the bad performance would be to render the whole stuff into a very > small surface and see wether the performance improves a lot. I was going to test it with different xlib surface size but since the older SW did not allow me to kill matchbox without rebooting the whole thing and matchbox is kind enough to maximize the window regardless... But hopefully I'll be able to do it with more recent SW at some point. -- Kalle Vahlman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by http://movial.fi ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Warning. Installing Maemo Development Platform
On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 09:14:23AM +0300, Karoliina Salminen wrote: > Luca De Cicco wrote: > >Hi there this is my first post on this ml. I'm quite sorry for the > >subject of this post (it would have better if i'd announce release of > >some package...) > > > >This day i downloaded Maemo Development Platform from the maemo website > >and i was happy to know what was new and suddenly found out that all > >interesting stuff is not included in this rootfs. > > > >Basically after installing the MDP you will have anything but XTerm and > >an Hello World application and no way to get non-free packages. Also it > >seems that the there's no way at the moment to get the product > >filesystem back because the rootfs file is currently unavailable on the > >nokia web-site. > > > >So if you want to flash your device with the MDP SDK please have in mind > >that you will have an unusable device for the daily use at least until > >someone will get the product rootfs back on the nokia site. > > > For that reason there is the warning in my blog in regarding the > instructions of flashing. > To do a new product based on 770, use SDK rootimage, it is an empty > table for adding > anything on top of it. To use 770 as 770 plus develop apps for it, > just use the product image (current IMHO). Yeah, but it would be nice if the production root image was available. So one can switch between SDK and production when needed. Personally i flashed the SDK image to play with it a little and see what's available. Assuming i could flash back the production one when i wanted. But now the production rootfs is removed from the nokia site and i'm ``stuck'' with the SDK... Sjoerd -- Dinosaurs aren't extinct. They've just learned to hide in the trees. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
