SoC: 5 preliminary slots
Google has allocated 5 preliminary slots for the maemo project. We might still end up getting less than these, but definitely not more. We need to move fast now to make sure that the top 5 ranked proposals are the ones we want to promote. Google will make final decisions at the end of Tuesday 10. Proposal for next steps below. Discuss as much as you want... today. I will apply changes in the (European) night. 1 - Keep the top 10 proposals and mark as "Ineligible" all the rest. 2 - Community mentors that haven't taken part at all in ranks/mentorship until now will be also removed. 3 - Some of these to 10 projects have currently a backup mentor temporary assigned. Last chance for community mentors to claim ownership of these. 4 - Community mentors make a second round of ranks to these 10 projects. Backup mentors (all Nokia employees) don't vote in this second round. I might add/take points as administrator, only in the case a community mentor has ranked 3 or more times (by accident or not). This way we will get the desired result: a proper rank of projects based on the community will with mentorship assigned in a way that community mentors have a preference but backup mentors can assist wherever the community has decided it is useful. The current top 10: Note that Google ranks projects with mentor on top of the rest even if they have less points. 1. Ruby Maemo Bindings - Student Michael M. Martin - Mentor Jay Phillips 2. GeoClue for Maemo - Jussi Kukkonen - Henri Bergius 3. Smoove - Instant Desktop Migration Suite - Paolo Durante - William Maddler 4. Japanese/Chinese handwriting recognition on Maemo - Mathieu Blondel - Makoto Sugano (backup) 5. Last.fm radio player - Alberto García - Xan López Saborido (backup) 6. Improve the phoneME JVM, to integrate well with Maemo and GPE enviroments - Clemens Eisserer - Johannes Eickhold 7. Dasher via Maemo Device as Keyboard for PC - Aaron Westerdale - Luca De Cicco 8. Geolocation-based Transit Maps - James Addison - Andrew J Turner 9. VPN Integration that Just Works - Kyle Ambroff - still no mentor 10. Enterprise-class cryptographic filesystem - Arnaud Jacques Elie Germis - still no mentor Quim ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: H/W 3D on the N800
John Meacham wrote: > are the specs on the GPU available for free somewhere, or are they under > NDA? I am guessing that since it is integrated into the OMAP processor > then the datasheets for that should have info on 3d acceleration.. but > datasheets don't seem to be as readily available nowadays as they used > to.. > >From what I've read so far in the forum and what I found by browsing through the OMAP 2420 pages I guess that these specs are not available. I would expect that Nokia does have an OpenGL ES driver driver from TI since they probably provide something like that when buying licenses to build devices with this CPU. I downloaded the OMAP2420 Linux release from TI, but it also doesn't contain anything like that. Seems as if H/W 3D is not open source compatible. Probably since they licensed the 3D core from PowerVR... Daniel ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: DosBOX 0.65 running on nokia 770
Andrew J. Barr wrote: Arnim Sauerbier wrote: Just a heads up, DOSBox runs 8088 games nicely on the 770, with 256-color VGA and advmame2x scaling and pc speaker support. SB16 support works also. Currently i'm trying to figure out why the mmap2() call breaks requesting more than 2MB. 80286 and up is reaal slow. Is there any hope that this could change? I have an old game "Jill of the Jungle" that I think is for 286es that I would _love_ to play on my N800. Oh I also have a 770 if the port doesn't work on N800 for some reason. Should have read the message more closely. I played that game for hours when I was about 10 years old. Andrew --- also gqview compiles and runs out of the box Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: DosBOX 0.65 running on nokia 770
Arnim Sauerbier wrote: Just a heads up, DOSBox runs 8088 games nicely on the 770, with 256-color VGA and advmame2x scaling and pc speaker support. SB16 support works also. Currently i'm trying to figure out why the mmap2() call breaks requesting more than 2MB. 80286 and up is reaal slow. Is there any hope that this could change? I have an old game "Jill of the Jungle" that I think is for 286es that I would _love_ to play on my N800. I played that game for hours when I was about 10 years old. Andrew --- also gqview compiles and runs out of the box Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
DosBOX 0.65 running on nokia 770
Just a heads up, DOSBox runs 8088 games nicely on the 770, with 256-color VGA and advmame2x scaling and pc speaker support. SB16 support works also. Currently i'm trying to figure out why the mmap2() call breaks requesting more than 2MB. 80286 and up is reaal slow. --- also gqview compiles and runs out of the box Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: H/W 3D on the N800
On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 06:17:24PM +0200, Daniel Wagner wrote: > Nate Turnage wrote: > > > > Yes: there's no support for hardware 3D on the N800. > > > > > > So, Daniel, it is a blank canvas just waiting for your genius to > > unlock it. > Thanks, but we unfortunately don't have the time and resources to do that. > We want to use the N800 in a project where 3D is of major concern. > > I know that the N800 is marketed as a internet browser but, still the > CPU can do 3D and it is a shame that this potential is not exposed. > > Can somebody from Nokia confirm that 3D is an unwanted feature on the > N800 and that it will not be added soon? are the specs on the GPU available for free somewhere, or are they under NDA? I am guessing that since it is integrated into the OMAP processor then the datasheets for that should have info on 3d acceleration.. but datasheets don't seem to be as readily available nowadays as they used to.. John -- John Meacham - ⑆repetae.net⑆john⑈ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
DNS Mystery when connected via BT PAN
Hello, I have a Nokia N800 and a T-Mobile Dash (Windows Mobile 5). The Dash supports only Bluetooth PAN networking, and as such requires jumping through several now-documented hoops to get working as a modem for the N800. I am able to get connectivity using the Dash as a modem, but only for third-party applications, such as Xterm and Minimo. Opera and the built-in email client, for example, get nowhere. To briefly summarize what I've done so far: - Dash: I go to internet sharing, Bluetooth PAN, and hit Connect - N800: I connect to the DUMMY IAP that I created previously - N800: I go to Xterm and get a root shell using ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] - N800: pand -Q10 (wait a few seconds) - N800: pand -l (This now shows the bluetooth address of the Dash on interface bnep0, and the Dash indicates "Connected") - N800: udhcpc -z -i bnep0 - N800: ifconfig bnep0 (This shows that the N800 has been assigned an IP of 192.168.0.170, and a gateway of 192.168.0.1) At this point, I have full internet access through the Xterm. I can, for example, ssh into another computer using its host name. I can also launch Minimo and start browsing normally. BUT, Opera won't get anywhere. Even if I enter an IP address, it spins forever at "Connecting..." The built-in mail client is also unable to get anywhere. What do I need to do to let the Hildon apps know that I've successfully connected? Any help is appreciated. It's agonizing to be THIS close to working. :) Steven http://panic.com/ http://stevenf.com/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: hunting for Linux developer
I agree, I think this would be a nice addition but I think it should also be manage to make sure postings really are related to maemo and not a bunch of junk job postings like many other job postings web pages. On 4/6/07, william maddler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> great idea as long as someone manages the list to remove obsolescent > postings. > > I guess we could introduce something like a 1 month period for each > entry. After that period the entry would be automatically unpublished. > Damn... I always forget that replies are sent to the sender only!! So... yes, I think this could be a nice think to have on maemo.org Cheers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- -- Aaron Westerdale ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: hunting for Linux developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> great idea as long as someone manages the list to remove obsolescent > postings. > > I guess we could introduce something like a 1 month period for each > entry. After that period the entry would be automatically unpublished. > Damn... I always forget that replies are sent to the sender only!! So... yes, I think this could be a nice think to have on maemo.org Cheers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Detecting Maemo release version, at runtime and using scripts
Hello, I have a shell-based application which I want to support on Maemo. A small feature of my application is to detect the OS/platform it is running on. To get this information on other Linux, I invoke `lsb_release` (Sadly, this command does not exist in the Internet Tablet OS 2007..). Fallback detection is normally accomplished using `cat /etc/*release` in older Linux/UNIX. For the moment, I have a very frail workaround: grep Nokia /etc/hostname followed by a test on "$?" Is there a Maemo-specific solution to detecting the platform during script execution? Thank you. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: hunting for Linux developer
> great idea as long as someone manages the list to remove obsolescent postings. I guess we could introduce something like a 1 month period for each entry. After that period the entry would be automatically unpublished. Quim ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: H/W 3D on the N800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can somebody from Nokia confirm that 3D is an unwanted feature on the N800 and that it will not be added soon? This is not a tendencious question, is it? :) 3D is not an unwanted feature, since (as a principle) we want to have all the features making the tablets excel in Internet and multimedia experiences. However, due to various factors the equation 3D + N800 + Soon = Uneasy. Specially if by "soon" you really mean soon. Well I'll phrase the question a bit simpler: Is this something that could happen at all or are these factors such that, as it stands now, it's unlikely to happen at all? Andrew Quim ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: H/W 3D on the N800
>Can somebody from Nokia confirm that 3D is an unwanted feature >on the N800 and that it will not be added soon? This is not a tendencious question, is it? :) 3D is not an unwanted feature, since (as a principle) we want to have all the features making the tablets excel in Internet and multimedia experiences. However, due to various factors the equation 3D + N800 + Soon = Uneasy. Specially if by "soon" you really mean soon. Quim ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: hunting for Linux developer
> - MAEMO platform > - porting applications to MAEMO No, I don't have the skills to apply. ;) This email hits the list precisely when I was thinking whether would be useful/acceptable to have a page in maemo.org for job opportunities around maemo. Nokia is offering jobs regularly but getting visibility for these positions available is more difficult than expected (at leats by me). In the meantime I wonder if maemo.org visitors are looking for a job matching those positions... Nokia is not the only one hiring. This email is a good example. If the maemo platform is successful we will see more of these. maemo contributors, potential employers and employees: what do you think? Quim ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: maemo-mapper crashes on os2007 hacker edition
Am Freitag, 6. April 2007 17:28 schrieben Sie: > > thanks for the quick reply. I tried removing and recreating the cache > > dir. No change. Did you try to start mm from the command line? If yes, > > did you get an "illegal instruction"? > > > > Are you on the 770 hacker edition of os2007 ? > > Could this be due to maemo-mapper bora being compiled specifically for > N800 hardware? Can you install the OS2006 version? Hmm...yes you are right, the OS2006 version works well. So should the OS2007 hacker edition use maemo 2.2 repositories? Now I am curious: N770 contains an ARM9, N800 contains an ARM11. Is the ARM11 backward compatible to the ARM9? The hacker edition contains a lot of binaries from OS2007: "We mostly used precompiled binaries and only recompiled something when we had to" (from http://maemo.org/maemowiki/Os2007On770) So does that mean that (most of) the OS2007 is compiled for an ARM9? Or is that a completely wrong path? Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Lärchenstr. 6 D-72135 Dettenhausen 07157-734133 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: H/W 3D on the N800
On 4/6/07, Daniel Wagner < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Thanks, but we unfortunately don't have the time and resources to do that. We want to use the N800 in a project where 3D is of major concern. I know that the N800 is marketed as a internet browser but, still the CPU can do 3D and it is a shame that this potential is not exposed. Can somebody from Nokia confirm that 3D is an unwanted feature on the N800 and that it will not be added soon? If you search the archives, you'll see there's also a video bandwidth problem related to the present hardware that may/does impose restrictions on live video rendering, etc. My understanding is that if the internal video memory were used, there would be enough bandwidth for acceptable performance, but the internal memory is not large enough to hold the full 800x480 display. The compromise was using external memory to the chip, but that memory is slower and could only do maybe 15fps. I'm pretty sure this is why we haven't seen an OpenGL stack yet, and why we probably won't see one any time soon. Seek out the thread(s) "DVD content playback possible or not?" from the archives for more specifics. --Paul ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: H/W 3D on the N800
Nate Turnage wrote: > > Yes: there's no support for hardware 3D on the N800. > > > So, Daniel, it is a blank canvas just waiting for your genius to > unlock it. Thanks, but we unfortunately don't have the time and resources to do that. We want to use the N800 in a project where 3D is of major concern. I know that the N800 is marketed as a internet browser but, still the CPU can do 3D and it is a shame that this potential is not exposed. Can somebody from Nokia confirm that 3D is an unwanted feature on the N800 and that it will not be added soon? thanks, Daniel ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Missing development packages
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > Should I add a `deb-src' APT source pointing to the Debian Sarge > archive, take the missing packages from there and build them for Maemo? > Is this the Right Way? FWIW, I succeeded building `comerr-dev' this way. This required building `texi2html', installing `scratchbox-devkit-perl' so that `help2man' can be built, things of that sort. I've put it on-line, in case anybody cares: http://www.laas.fr/~lcourtes/tmp/comerr-dev_2.1-1.37-2sarge1_armel.deb SHA1: f69987f598b5edca2006cb5b3e1489919e2bc0d8 Thanks, Ludovic. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Asking about cacao problem
Hello, I'm trying to run a cacao command on SCratchbox but I have an eroor telling me this : Inconsistency detected by ld.so: rtld.c: 288: _dl_start_final: Assertion `info->l.l_tls_modid == 0' failed! Can someone tell me what to do, I saw something about that on maemo.org but I didn't understand what I must do. THanks for reply, Best regards, Magda, ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: maemo-mapper crashes on os2007 hacker edition
thanks for the quick reply. I tried removing and recreating the cache dir. No change. Did you try to start mm from the command line? If yes, did you get an "illegal instruction"? Are you on the 770 hacker edition of os2007 ? Could this be due to maemo-mapper bora being compiled specifically for N800 hardware? Can you install the OS2006 version? -- It doesn't take a nukular scientist to pronounce foilage! --Marge Simpson http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: maemo-mapper crashes on os2007 hacker edition
Hey Brad, thanks for the quick reply. I tried removing and recreating the cache dir. No change. Did you try to start mm from the command line? If yes, did you get an "illegal instruction"? Are you on the 770 hacker edition of os2007 ? Thanks, Rainer Am Freitag, 6. April 2007 15:17 schrieb Brad Midgley: > hey > > as a data point, mm was crashing for me on loading topo maps because there > was a corrupt map in the cache. Cleaning the cache fixed the crashing. > > Brad -- Rainer Dorsch Lärchenstr. 6 D-72135 Dettenhausen 07157-734133 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N800 hardware revision?
On 4/5/07, mitcheloc < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are there any plans for revision of the N800 hardware platform? I can't speak for Nokia, but: No. There will probably be an N990 or something similar in a year or two, but I'm sure the N800 is what it is. On 4/5/07, Michael Wiktowy <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: It is pretty plump http://www.engadget.com/photos/hands-on-with-digital-cubes-worlds-smallest-umpc-the-g43/185719/ and twice the price. Interesting specs though. I wonder what Linux they would be installing. I personally think that using a desktop UI that is built for a mouse on these things is a mistake. Oh, wow! That thing /is/ huge! It's bad enough the N800 is so long, but there's no way I'd ever get that thing into a pocket. $800 for a brick with a screen? No thanks. And the picture clearly show it running WinXP, which means it will be difficult to get any use out of it even if I did happen to have it with me... --Paul ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
hunting for Linux developer
Hi everyone, *Wanted* Linux Developer Linux developer wanted in Unique United Oy. The project involves software development for Nokia Internet tablet (like Nokia 770 and Nokia 800) device. Programming competencies of interest: - Linux (Debian) programming - GTK - MAEMO platform - porting applications to MAEMO - multimedia skills - real-time communication programming - UI design and implementation Unique United Oy is a small but fast growing Finnish IT company. Creativity, innovation and team work are highly valued qualities. If you are interested in the position and think you have enough skills please contact us before 30th April. Thank you for your attention and we expect your early reply! best regards, John -- Unique United Ltd. Tekniikantie 21 FI-02150 Espoo Finland Phone: 00358505362186 MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: www.uu.fi ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: maemo-mapper crashes on os2007 hacker edition
hey as a data point, mm was crashing for me on loading topo maps because there was a corrupt map in the cache. Cleaning the cache fixed the crashing. Brad ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Standard widget spacing and padding?
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 18:11 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: > I can't find anything in the various Maemo documents about the standard > spacing that Maemo applications should have between and around widgets. > For instance, for the GNOME HIG, this is usually 6 pixels between > widgets and 12 pixels padding around the window: > http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/design-window.html > > This seems like something that should be in the Maemo porting guide > http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_porting_to_maemo_bora.html > as well as the UI specification: > http://www.maemo.org/community/hildon_ui.html Anyone? I'm sure that Nokia has some kind of standard somewhere for this. -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
maemo-mapper crashes on os2007 hacker edition
Hello, I just got my 770 back from being repaired (white screen of death). I reflashed with the os2700 hacker edition. After reading good reviews on the hacker edition here, I thought maintaining the same system on the n800 and n770 is nice. The hacker editon works well, but I see maemo-mapper crashing whenever it is loading maps from Google satellite or VE. Google maps and openmaps works well. The only obvious difference for me is that all working maps use % in the URL format e.g. Maps: http://<...>&x=%d&y=%d&zoom=%d whereas the crashing repositories use %s or %0s Satelitte: http:/<...>&t=%s Can anybody reproduce this problem? Is my hardware broken again? Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Lärchenstr. 6 D-72135 Dettenhausen 07157-734133 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Missing development packages
Hi, "Kalle Vahlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2007/4/5, Ludovic Courtès <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Should I add a `deb-src' APT source pointing to the Debian Sarge >> archive, take the missing packages from there and build them for Maemo? >> Is this the Right Way? > > That most likely would work, though taking the gregale sources and > rebuilding might be more straightforward. > > http://repository.maemo.org/pool/gregale/free/source/e/e2fsprogs/ Sure, but the issue, as I mentioned, is that the build dependencies of `e2fsprogs' are missing from the repository, hence the need to fetch them from Sarge's repository. Thanks, Ludovic. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
