Re: Advertisement (Was Ann: Nokia Internet Tablet group for multimedia content, files and more)

2008-03-18 Thread Kees Jongenburger
Hello

I was not very clear as to what I was talking about.I am talking about
the footer of your messages.

"Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com";


On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Darius Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
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Re: Advertisement (Was Ann: Nokia Internet Tablet group for multimedia content, files and more)

2008-03-18 Thread Benoit HERVIER
No comments ...

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Re: Advertisement (Was Ann: Nokia Internet Tablet group for multimedia content, files and more)

2008-03-18 Thread Neil MacLeod
Darius Jack wrote:
> Copy goes to Chairman of the Board at Nokia Corporation
> Mr Jorma Ollila
> http://www.nokia.com/A4126351
> __

That was a bit OTT (over the top) wasn't it??

I think I'll pass on joining your Google Group just in case I upset you and you 
cc my mother on one of your pithy put downs... ;)

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Re: Advertisement (Was Ann: Nokia Internet Tablet group for multimedia content, files and more)

2008-03-18 Thread Darius Jack
Copy goes to Chairman of the Board at Nokia Corporation
Mr Jorma Ollila
http://www.nokia.com/A4126351
__
Hi Kees,

do you really see any problem or just wish to generate one ?

Google Groups are just Google Groups
your e-mail address comes exactly from Google not maemo, Nokia 
or other entity involved in the development of Nokia Internet Tablet.
Is that wrong ?

Is asking questions not related to maemo project ok at this group ?
Is this list text-based only ?

Can I send multimedia to maemo list to join Google Summer Code ?

Is announcement (abr. to Ann.) exactly not advertisement in legal terms.

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Announcement (Ann:) from Wikipedia
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   This article is about announcement messages in computing. For a 
definition of the word "announcement", see the Wiktionary entry announcement.
 In computing, an Announcement (ANN) is a Usenet, Mailing list, or E-mail 
message sent to notify subscribers that a software project has made a new 
software release version. Newsgroup announcement recipients often have a name 
like "comp.somegroup.announce". Mailing list announcement recipients often have 
a name like "toolname-announce". Most software projects that make announcements 
are open source.
 In an announcement the subject line commonly contains the abbreviated prefix 
ANN:.
 The contents of an announcement usually contain a title line which contains 
the tool name, version, release name, and date. Additional contents often fall 
into the following message sections:
 
   About - a short paragraph summary of the tool's purpose
   Changes - a list of the highest impact changes since the last release 
(should be brief since the changelog comprises the definitive list)
   Resources - links to project pages of interest, such as homepage, where to 
download, bug tracker, etc.
 Some additional, optional fields might include Highlights, Author(s), License, 
Requirements, and Release History
 Announcement messages are usually sent in plain text form.
 
 [edit] Example Example announcement message subject line:
 
ANN: fooutils 0.9.42 beta released

 Example announcement message contents:
"
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So now can you see the difference.
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As Maemo is supported by Nokia, to save our time,
kind request is forwarded to Chairman of the Board at Nokia Corporation,
Mr Jorma Ollila,
to see
if Nokia has anything against Nokia Internet Tablet group
and making such non-profit, non-commercial, one-time, free announcement at 
maemo.org, for those developing applications for Nokia Internet Tablet.
We live in democratic world, do we ?

As I see from previous thread,
there is no conflict of interests between Nokia and Google, as Maemo was 
nominated Hosting Organization in the previous edition of Google Summer Code 
2007.
If I am wrong, please correct me.

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Darius






Kees Jongenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Guys

Do you feel it is appropriate to send advertisement in such mails?

greetings

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Darius Jack  wrote:
> You are welcome to visit
> Nokia Internet Tablet group
> http://groups.google.com/group/nokia-internet-tablet
>
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Advertisement (Was Ann: Nokia Internet Tablet group for multimedia content, files and more)

2008-03-18 Thread Kees Jongenburger
Hi Guys

Do you feel it is appropriate to send advertisement in such mails?

greetings

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Darius Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You are welcome to visit
> Nokia Internet Tablet group
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>
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Ann: Nokia Internet Tablet group for multimedia content, files and more

2008-03-18 Thread Darius Jack
You are welcome to visit
Nokia Internet Tablet group
http://groups.google.com/group/nokia-internet-tablet

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Re: Maemo not a List of Mentoring Organizations Participating in Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-03-18 Thread Ryan Pavlik
Darius Jack wrote:
> Sorry, but Noop ;)
> Completely wrong as before.
> Students can join opened projects only.
> If you don't have opened project, how could you expect to have 
> students to join your project.
> It works exactly as Google pointed out.
> First project idea than students.
> Initiative is up to project managers, mentoring organizations tgo open 
> projects not students.
> Please read Google Summer of Code FAQ and Terms.
>
> (you said: Sure, it might require a bit more initiative for the 
> students to
> find or think of the projects, but GSoC is about finding students with
> the initiative to get involved and hopefully stay involved - exactly
> what we're looking for.)
> Really ?
Yes, really.  Project ideas are offered by the participating mentor 
organizations, but students are free to propose their own ideas.  I did 
so, I would imagine that I know.
>
> I fully understand what you mean.
> Too much money goes to students on stipends and pocket money to 
> mentoring organization only ($4,500 vs. $500) and all code goes to Google.
The purpose is to permit interested students to spend the summer working 
on OSS rather than flipping burgers to pay for schooling, not to 
directly finance open source organizations, hence the monetary 
distribution.  Google does not receive copyright on the work (this is in 
the FAQ you suggested I read) - students retain the copyright and/or do 
what the project expects.
> Ok, but you still get free workers or workers for free to work with 
> you, under your supervision.
> Really fantastic idea in our hard times on Wall Street to win free 
> promotion by Google.
>
> In my life span I was involved, joined, supervised more than 100 
> projects, from very small one-man to projects in global education, 
> distance learning, incorporation of virtual corporation, remote 
> managment of VC, rm of VC staff,
>
> And project management model provided by Google is not bad.
> You have a listing of open projects/ideas and have millions of 
> students to join or not to join, making their.own free decision.
>
The project lists are only ideas - the only thing that is fixed by 
google is the mentoring organizations and later, the number of spots 
each org gets.
> 20 years ago Usenet / Bietnet was the only place for startups of new 
> projects.
> Nowadays public/private forums, as a meeting place, provide such 
> opportunity.
>
> But there is good project without money and more money provided better 
> project completed.
> Students in general have no money but have good brains and some free time.
>
> Unfortunately, there is a conflicting idea, especially in EU, to have 
> students to join projects, co-financed by the Commission of the EU and 
> let them still call such projects non-business open-source ones.
>
> So there is a large number of hot projects, co-financed and sponsored 
> by EU, business, corporations and that part of a project of special 
> importance, involving
> a lot of work hours, efforts and money in initial stages of design, 
> think-tank,
> goes listed as open source project to attract free workers, working 
> for free.
>
> Today, such strategy of hidden financing of business projects by free 
> workers is called Groups.
> Groups are created on the Internet and run some projects as open source.
> If project is successful, it goes to business and generates profits.
> If unsaccessfull evolves in another project code name.
>
> Sometimes developed in parallel to a business project, gives business 
> oriented ppl insight into hot issues for free and none Non-Disclosure 
> Clause is in force.
I am not sure what you are trying to say here (or in the rest of the 
message, actually), but what I've stated is true, based on experience 
and available data, and will be my last words on this topic.  If you are 
not motivated to mentor/participate as a student in GSoC on a 
maemo-related project through a different mentoring organization, please 
refrain from discouraging others from doing so.

Students, I'm not sure if this would be a big enough project, but 
AbiWord's Maemo port could use some TLC, and we've been a mentoring 
organization twice before and are again this year.  Please don't let 
this thread discourage you from developing ideas, connections with the 
community, and an application for a project of your choosing.

Ryan

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Re: Maemo not a List of Mentoring Organizations Participating in Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-03-18 Thread Darius Jack
Sorry, but Noop ;)
Completely wrong as before.
Students can join opened projects only.
If you don't have opened project, how could you expect to have students to join 
your project.
It works exactly as Google pointed out.
First project idea than students.
Initiative is up to project managers, mentoring organizations tgo open projects 
not students.
Please read Google Summer of Code FAQ and Terms.

(you said: Sure, it might require a bit more initiative for the students to 
find or think of the projects, but GSoC is about finding students with 
the initiative to get involved and hopefully stay involved - exactly 
what we're looking for.)
Really ?

I fully understand what you mean.
Too much money goes to students on stipends and pocket money to mentoring 
organization only ($4,500 vs. $500) and all code goes to Google.
Ok, but you still get free workers or workers for free to work with you, under 
your supervision.
Really fantastic idea in our hard times on Wall Street to win free promotion by 
Google.

In my life span I was involved, joined, supervised more than 100 projects, from 
very small one-man to projects in global education, distance learning, 
incorporation of virtual corporation, remote managment of VC, rm of VC staff,

And project management model provided by Google is not bad.
You have a listing of open projects/ideas and have millions of students to join 
or not to join, making their.own free decision.

20 years ago Usenet / Bietnet was the only place for startups of new projects.
Nowadays public/private forums, as a meeting place, provide such opportunity.

But there is good project without money and more money provided better project 
completed.
Students in general have no money but have good brains and some free time.

Unfortunately, there is a conflicting idea, especially in EU, to have students 
to join projects, co-financed by the Commission of the EU and let them still 
call such projects non-business open-source ones.

So there is a large number of hot projects, co-financed and sponsored by EU, 
business, corporations and that part of a project of special importance, 
involving
a lot of work hours, efforts and money in initial stages of design, think-tank,
goes listed as open source project to attract free workers, working for free.

Today, such strategy of hidden financing of business projects by free workers 
is called Groups.
Groups are created on the Internet and run some projects as open source.
If project is successful, it goes to business and generates profits.
If unsaccessfull evolves in another project code name.

Sometimes developed in parallel to a business project, gives business oriented 
ppl insight into hot issues for free and none Non-Disclosure Clause is in force.

So closing, Google's idea of Summer Code is not bad.
Google is a known as a business entity, corporation, public company
and give students real opportunity to participate in hundreds of projects.

Please name me another corporation, another company or a school, university, 
showing such initiative and interest in providing space for development of so 
many open projects.

I am not for or against Google but it really makes sense to open such platforms 
for student project.
MIT is ok, unfortunately R&D projects are closed as financed by third parties.

So I really see no problem for Maemo to join Google Summer of Code every year.
All you need is to file an application form.


Darius





And

.
.

 

Ryan Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Darius Jack wrote:
> Noop.
> Completely wrong.
> Just read more about Google Summer of Code from
> http://code.google.com/soc/2008/
> "
> All participating mentoring organizations for 2008 have provided 
> additional information for their would-be students, including a list 
> of sample project ideas.
> "
> Being listed as a mentoring organization has nothing to do with past 
> interest of students in activities of a mentoring organization in-spe,
> as you firstly get listed as a mentoring organization and than
> attract potential students.
> $4,500 stipend offered by Google is great chance for any student and 
> much more than N810 apiece.
>
> What Google said:
> "
> If you find you have a great idea to improve one of the projects you 
> see listed, why not start working on it now?
> "
> You are right, Google Summer of Code attracts more mentors than students
> "
> /Google Summer of Code/ 2008 is on! Over the past three years, the 
> program has brought together over 1500 students and 2000 mentors from 
> 90 countries worldwide, all for the love of code. We look forward to 
> welcoming more new contributors and projects this year.
> "
> But there is a chance to chan ge things for the better and discuss 
> that issue with Google.
> On the other hand Google with Google Maps application is first-class 
> and first hand competitor to Nokia Tablet as a navigation device.
>
> Anyway, attracting students to Maemo is attracting new customers to 
> buy more N810s, so, in our hard time

RE: Bugzilla in read-only mode

2008-03-18 Thread marcell.lengyel
Hi All,

The issue is resolved now.

BR,

Marcell 

> -Original Message-
> From: Lengyel Marcell (Nokia-D/Helsinki) 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:37
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'maemo-developers@maemo.org'
> Subject: Bugzilla in read-only mode
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> As you might have noticed there are some problems with 
> connection between bugs.maemo.org and the database server. 
> That is why bugzilla is running now in read-only mode. We 
> have notified our ISP and they are working on the problem. 
> Please be patient, it is a high priority for us too to get it fixed.
> 
> Thanks for your understanding,
> 
> --
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> 
> 
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Re: Maemo not a List of Mentoring Organizations Participating in Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-03-18 Thread Ryan Pavlik
Darius Jack wrote:
> Noop.
> Completely wrong.
> Just read more about Google Summer of Code from
> http://code.google.com/soc/2008/
> "
> All participating mentoring organizations for 2008 have provided 
> additional information for their would-be students, including a list 
> of sample project ideas.
> "
> Being listed as a mentoring organization has nothing to do with past 
> interest of students in activities of a mentoring organization in-spe,
> as you firstly get listed as a mentoring organization and than
> attract potential students.
> $4,500 stipend offered by Google is great chance for any student and 
> much more than N810 apiece.
>
> What Google said:
> "
> If you find you have a great idea to improve one of the projects you 
> see listed, why not start working on it now?
> "
> You are right, Google Summer of Code attracts more mentors than students
> "
> /Google Summer of Code/ 2008 is on! Over the past three years, the 
> program has brought together over 1500 students and 2000 mentors from 
> 90 countries worldwide, all for the love of code. We look forward to 
> welcoming more new contributors and projects this year.
> "
> But there is a chance to chan ge things for the better and discuss 
> that issue with Google.
> On the other hand Google with Google Maps application is first-class 
> and first hand competitor to Nokia Tablet as a navigation device.
>
> Anyway, attracting students to Maemo is attracting new customers to 
> buy more N810s, so, in our hard times on Wall Street, Nokia not Maemo, 
> should be interested in promotion of its great Nokia Tablet in any 
> form of promotion, provided for free.
>
> Lost chance is lost chance
> and any stipend granted by Google to a prospective student is lost 
> forever.
>
> Darius
I wouldn't go quite that far - there are a lot of downstream projects, 
and a mighty good idea for some of them would be to produce or improve a 
Maemo port.  As a platform, Maemo has a lot to gain indirectly from 
improvements to other projects.  (Don't forget the upstream projects, 
too!)  Sure, it might require a bit more initiative for the students to 
find or think of the projects, but GSoC is about finding students with 
the initiative to get involved and hopefully stay involved - exactly 
what we're looking for.

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Re: Fwd: Multithreaded program for N800..

2008-03-18 Thread mike saunby
The OORexx model is fairly simple, see
http://www.oorexx.org/rexxref/c35065.htm
and is easier than most.

I've ported the interpreter
http://mike.saunby.googlepages.com/oorexxfornokia770

There are ports for other systems here http://www.oorexx.org/download.html
what is lacking at present is ooRexx for 64bit systems.

BTW you can get Hoare's CSP book free at http://www.usingcsp.com/

Michael
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Re: radare 0.9.4 for maemo

2008-03-18 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Andrew Flegg wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:49 AM, pancake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have managed to build vala 0.1.8 (svn) in scratchbox and updated
>>  the radare package.
> 
> Are your vala packages in extras(-devel)? I know jott compiled some
> for 0.1.6 at:
> 
> http://sse2.net/vala/
> 
> More up-to-date, and centrally available versions for Scratchbox would
> be handy, though.

Even not just for scratchbox but for N810 directly too. We have keyboard 
so using gcc directly on N810 is not as insane as it looks first. One 
can quite easily apt-get gcc and developer packages and compile C stuff 
directly on device (tried X, SDL and glib stuff, not gtk or hildon). 
Vala would be nice addition too.

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Re: Maemo not a List of Mentoring Organizations Participating in Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-03-18 Thread Darius Jack
Noop.
Completely wrong.
Just read more about Google Summer of Code from
http://code.google.com/soc/2008/
"
All participating mentoring organizations for 2008 have provided  additional 
information for their would-be students, including a list of  sample project 
ideas. 
"
Being listed as a mentoring organization has nothing to do with past interest 
of students in activities of a mentoring organization in-spe,
as you firstly get listed as a mentoring organization and than
attract potential students.
$4,500 stipend offered by Google is great chance for any student and much more 
than N810 apiece.

What Google said:
"
 If you find you have a great idea  to improve one of the projects you see 
listed, why not start  working on it now?
"
You are right, Google Summer of Code attracts more mentors than students
"
Google Summer of Code 2008 is on! Over the past three  years, the program has 
brought together over 1500 students and  2000 mentors from 90 countries 
worldwide, all for the love of  code. We look forward to welcoming more new 
contributors and  projects this year.
"
But there is a chance to chan ge things for the better and discuss that issue 
with Google.
On the other hand Google with Google Maps application is first-class and first 
hand competitor to Nokia Tablet as a navigation device.

Anyway, attracting students to Maemo is attracting new customers to buy more 
N810s, so, in our hard times on Wall Street, Nokia not Maemo, should be 
interested in promotion of its great Nokia Tablet in any form of promotion, 
provided for free.

Lost chance is lost chance 
and any stipend granted by Google to a prospective student is lost forever.

Darius



Edgar Lakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree with Quim.

It is little benefit if participation is non active. And, probably there were 
no serious intents for student participation this year, anyway. At least I was 
unable to find any related discussion, and this thread hasn't got attention 
also. In such conditions, participation of maemo would be wasting of mentors' 
time (and project slots, globally).
 
Initiative should come from prospective participants (students), I think. So we 
could spread the general idea about SoC in maemo comunity, early next year 
(around January). If students are active and there are any promising ideas, 
there would be little problems to find mentors. Moreover mentors would know in 
advance how many good project there are, and how many project slots to ask from 
Google.
 

Edgar


On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
 
 ext Darius Jack wrote:
 > Maemo not a List of Mentoring Organizations Participating in Google
 > Summer of Code 2008
 >
 > why ?
 
 
The useful question is to ask why should maemo be there, and what
 elements do we need to be there. With a mixed success last year, without
 much initiative nor demand in the maemo community, I personally find it
 normal that we are not there.
 
 It's a bit of a pity but not the end of the world. Maybe you want to
 push for this next year?
 
 Other thoughts?
 
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Re: Fwd: Multithreaded program for N800..

2008-03-18 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Martin Grimme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Just be careful with threads, because they're evil (TM) !  ;)
>  They are hard to debug, annoy users when deadlocking, and when done
>  wrongly, can have impact on performance.
>
>  My policy is to only use threads when absolutely necessary. In most
>  cases, nonblocking IO and timeout callbacks are fully sufficient, and
>  give more predictable and debuggable behavior. X and most UI-toolkits
>  aren't thread-safe anyway, so threading should never be used in GUI
>  parts.
>
>  Somebody (Richard Stallmann, IIRC) said, "threads are for people who
>  did not understand state-machines". He could be right on this part.

Well, there are a lot of different thread models. Personally I favor
the CSP[1] model to the SRC model (which pthreads follows) see [2] for
reasons. But as mentioned before, for serial communication I'd really
consider to stick with a select()-driven approach.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communicating_sequential_processes
[2] http://swtch.com/~rsc/thread/

Kind regards,
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Re: radare 0.9.4 for maemo

2008-03-18 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:49 AM, pancake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have managed to build vala 0.1.8 (svn) in scratchbox and updated
>  the radare package.

Are your vala packages in extras(-devel)? I know jott compiled some
for 0.1.6 at:

http://sse2.net/vala/

More up-to-date, and centrally available versions for Scratchbox would
be handy, though.

Thanks in advance,

Andrew

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Re: Maemo not a List of Mentoring Organizations Participating in Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-03-18 Thread Edgar Lakis
I agree with Quim.

It is little benefit if participation is non active. And, probably there
were no serious intents for student participation this year, anyway. At
least I was unable to find any related discussion, and this thread hasn't
got attention also. In such conditions, participation of maemo would be
wasting of mentors' time (and project slots, globally).

Initiative should come from prospective participants (students), I think. So
we could spread the general idea about SoC in maemo comunity, early next
year (around January). If students are active and there are any promising
ideas, there would be little problems to find mentors. Moreover mentors
would know in advance how many good project there are, and how many project
slots to ask from Google.


Edgar


On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> ext Darius Jack wrote:
> > Maemo not a List of Mentoring Organizations Participating in Google
> > Summer of Code 2008
> >
> > why ?
>
> The useful question is to ask why should maemo be there, and what
> elements do we need to be there. With a mixed success last year, without
> much initiative nor demand in the maemo community, I personally find it
> normal that we are not there.
>
> It's a bit of a pity but not the end of the world. Maybe you want to
> push for this next year?
>
> Other thoughts?
>
> Quim
>
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Re: Fwd: Multithreaded program for N800..

2008-03-18 Thread Martin Grimme
Hi,

Just be careful with threads, because they're evil (TM) !  ;)
They are hard to debug, annoy users when deadlocking, and when done
wrongly, can have impact on performance.

My policy is to only use threads when absolutely necessary. In most
cases, nonblocking IO and timeout callbacks are fully sufficient, and
give more predictable and debuggable behavior. X and most UI-toolkits
aren't thread-safe anyway, so threading should never be used in GUI
parts.

Somebody (Richard Stallmann, IIRC) said, "threads are for people who
did not understand state-machines". He could be right on this part.

Just my 2 ยข...

Martin


2008/3/17, Markku Vire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>  Hi,
>
>  Yes it does. Actually most applications that belong to OS2008 are
>  multithreaded. This is because they use gnome-vfs, which uses threads to
>  implement async file operations.
>
>  You can use GThread module from glib to write threaded applications.
>
>
>  -Markku-
>
>
>  nisha jain wrote:
>  > Does OS2008 supports multithreading?
>  > -- Forwarded message --
>  > From: nisha jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > Date: Mar 15, 2008 12:51 PM
>  > Subject: Multithreaded program for N800..
>  > To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
>  >
>  > Hi All,
>  >
>  > I have a requierement I need to do serial communication in background and 
> do
>  > processing
>  > simultaneously. I can do it if i have multithreaded enviornment. Please let
>  > me know if any
>  > one has used multithreaded application for N800? Does here pthreads of c 
> can
>  > work?
>  >
>  > Let me know if i can plug some c code to acheive it? Also i know N800 has
>  > the ARM  330Hz
>  > processor which can support such enviornment.
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  > Nisha
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
> > 
>
> >
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Re: Packaging Python Applications for Maemo: python-setuptools/eggs or PyPackager/debian?

2008-03-18 Thread Martin Grimme
Hi,

definitely go the deb package way in maemo world. People will hate you
if you only offer Python eggs for manual installation. You should keep
using PyPackager, IMHO.

Personally, I'm using a simple Makefile to satisfy the
dpkg-buildpackage scripts for packaging my stuff for maemo. Just a few
lines but it does its job.


Cheers,
Martin


2008/3/17, Darren Enns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Forgive my likely confusion-of-terminology used in this email title :)
>
>  Long story short: I have ported some python libraries to the Armel/maemo
>  platform, and had successfully used 'PyPackager' to create a nice
>  Debian-package for those to install with.
>
>  When I asked the original coder for an opinion on this, he suggested
>  making an 'easy_install' (python-setuptools/egg?) instead.
>
>  I am extremely ignorant about all of this stuff, and was quite content
>  to use 'PyPackager' to solve all of my problems -- plus, however
>  'consistent' it may be in the Python world to use 'eggs' and stuff like
>  that, it seems to me that Debian packages allows people to install with
>  a GUI interface rather than a command-line one.
>
>  Am I full of beans?  Could anyone clarify these issues for me?
>
>  Thanks
>
>  Dare
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Re: GtkWindow GtkFixed Offset

2008-03-18 Thread Martin Grimme
Hi,

window type POPUP shouldn't suffer from this problem. The offset is
fixed by the hildon desktop for decorating the window border. You can
read more about this offset and specifications in the maemo tutorial.

If your application doesn't want to be "hildonized", maybe it's better
to display it fullscreen anyway?

Cheers,
Martin

2008/3/18, kumar lomash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi Florian,
>
> When the window goes full screen, I don't see this offset but while in
> app-mode all container widgets suffer from this offset.
>
> I have  tried changing container border attribute for window as well as the
> container but could not resolve the issue, even when I set window
> un-decorated, I see this offset however title bar etc are hidden.
>
> Is there a particular way to solve this?
>
> Regards,
> Lomash
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Florian Boor
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > kumar lomash schrieb:
> >
> > > I have a normal Hildon window, on which I put a GtkFixed container. The
> > > problem is that the container seems to have a 10 pixel offset from the
> > > top-left corner of the parent (hildon) window.
> >
> > this sounds a little bit like screen size vs. window client size. The
> decoration
> > the window manager adds eats up some pixels. Does this offset change if
> you
> > switch the window to fullscreen? If not do other container widgets suffer
> from
> > the same effect?
> >
> > Greetings
> >
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Bugzilla in read-only mode

2008-03-18 Thread marcell.lengyel
Hi All,

As you might have noticed there are some problems with connection
between bugs.maemo.org and the database server. That is why bugzilla is
running now in read-only mode. We have notified our ISP and they are
working on the problem. Please be patient, it is a high priority for us
too to get it fixed.

Thanks for your understanding,

--
Marcell


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Cannot click on the button's image

2008-03-18 Thread LIU Chun Hung
Hi all,

I have designed a GUI with image button. I use the function
(gtk_button_set_image) to set the button's image. For my design, the
button's image need to change very frequently. At the first time I set the
button's image, I can click on it, it can go to the button-click function.
But after I set the image again, when I click on the button's image, it
cannot go to the button-click function. The image I set to the button is
in the class of gtkpreview.

Regards,
Hung

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