Re: RE:N810 internet tablet pc
Hi Lokesh, generally spoken I would not really recommend to run java on the tablets. But what do you need it for? Why do you want to take java? I don't know, which instructions you followed to install it on the device, so that I think nobody can really help you, based on the information you've provided. But anyway, you could try to follow these [1] instructions. [1] http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/Getting_started_with_Java_on_maemo Cheers Daniel ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
FYI : ConnMan deconstructed : http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/06/25/networkmanager-and-connman/
I thought this would be of interest to the list. Also some good comments here: http://lwn.net/Articles/338715/ David -- Don't worry, you'll be fine; I saw it work in a cartoon once... ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: FYI : ConnMan deconstructed : http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/06/25/networkmanager-and-connman/
HI, On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:00 AM, David Greaves da...@dgreaves.com wrote: I thought this would be of interest to the list. Also some good comments here: http://lwn.net/Articles/338715/ well, I don't like very much the NIH syndrome, but this time I've to agree with the decision of writing everything from scratch. NM is a huge pill of 'mixed-code' with a lot of dependences on the UI, it works fairly well in my gnome desktop right now, but the KDE/mobile users usually have a lot of problem with NM. To be fair, the network manager app that gave me the best user experience in a linux box so far, was the proprietary app in your tablets (insert your rants here :P). Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org David -- Don't worry, you'll be fine; I saw it work in a cartoon once... ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: FYI : ConnMan deconstructed : http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/06/25/networkmanager-and-connman/
Agreed. I hate NetworkManager so badly. I had nothing but trouble with it on a tablet (Mer) and on a desktop computer. I had to pin the NetworkManager from Ubuntu Hardy when I upgraded as the newest version gave me nothing but trouble. icd2, the Network Manager used in Diablo, is probably the most reliable manager I've used. I find it hard to agree with the article due to my own experiences and it is heavily biased. More power to ConnMan! Best Regards, Faheem On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Valerio Valeriovdv...@gmail.com wrote: HI, On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:00 AM, David Greaves da...@dgreaves.com wrote: I thought this would be of interest to the list. Also some good comments here: http://lwn.net/Articles/338715/ well, I don't like very much the NIH syndrome, but this time I've to agree with the decision of writing everything from scratch. NM is a huge pill of 'mixed-code' with a lot of dependences on the UI, it works fairly well in my gnome desktop right now, but the KDE/mobile users usually have a lot of problem with NM. To be fair, the network manager app that gave me the best user experience in a linux box so far, was the proprietary app in your tablets (insert your rants here :P). Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org David -- Don't worry, you'll be fine; I saw it work in a cartoon once... ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Accessing contacts via d-bus
Hi, Are there any examples on how I can access the addressbook via d-bus? By looking at the dbus-monitor logs I seet that interfaces such as org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.AddressBook are used, but I've had no luck getting anything out of them. If anyone has done it, a short example with e.g. dbus-send or code would be really appreciated on how I can e.g. get a list of my contacts. cheers, -- Tatu Lahtela laht...@iki.fi ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Accessing contacts via d-bus
Hi, Contact-infos does access contact but not via DBus (via libebook API if I remember correctly) ! It then offers a DBus interface to allow users to choose the contact they want via a dialog. ContactInfos can access built-in contact or GPE contacts ... Fred Tatu Lahtela a écrit : Hi, Are there any examples on how I can access the addressbook via d-bus? By looking at the dbus-monitor logs I seet that interfaces such as org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.AddressBook are used, but I've had no luck getting anything out of them. If anyone has done it, a short example with e.g. dbus-send or code would be really appreciated on how I can e.g. get a list of my contacts. cheers, -- Tatu Lahtela laht...@iki.fi mailto:laht...@iki.fi ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Accessing contacts via d-bus
Hi, I don't know if a D-Bus API exists or it it is public, but you could use the C API as Fred told before. In case you are using Qt, you have to use QLibrary [1] as we have done with GConf [2]. BR, Antonio [1] http://doc.qtsoftware.com/4.5/qlibrary.html [2] http://qt.gitorious.org/+qt-maemo-developers/qt/qt-maemo/trees/maemo-internet-connectivity/src/network/maemo On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Fred f...@lefevere-laoide.net wrote: Hi, Contact-infos does access contact but not via DBus (via libebook API if I remember correctly) ! It then offers a DBus interface to allow users to choose the contact they want via a dialog. ContactInfos can access built-in contact or GPE contacts ... Fred Tatu Lahtela a écrit : Hi, Are there any examples on how I can access the addressbook via d-bus? By looking at the dbus-monitor logs I seet that interfaces such as org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.AddressBook are used, but I've had no luck getting anything out of them. If anyone has done it, a short example with e.g. dbus-send or code would be really appreciated on how I can e.g. get a list of my contacts. cheers, -- Tatu Lahtela laht...@iki.fi mailto:laht...@iki.fi ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Rita Rudner http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/r/rita_rudner.html - I was a vegetarian until I started leaning toward the sunlight. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Accessing contacts via d-bus
On Fri, 2009-07-03 at 14:45 +0300, Tatu Lahtela wrote: Are there any examples on how I can access the addressbook via d-bus? By looking at the dbus-monitor logs I seet that interfaces such as org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.AddressBook are used, but I've had no luck getting anything out of them. If anyone has done it, a short example with e.g. dbus-send or code would be really appreciated on how I can e.g. get a list of my contacts. Don't. The DBus API to evolution-data-server isn't really stable (it hasn't changed much recently but there are no assurances that it won't change overnight) and if you do access it directly you'll need to provide a vCard parser. Just use libebook. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: r...@burtonini.com jabber: r...@burtonini.com www: http://burtonini.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 14:33 +0200, ext e...@okerson.com wrote: Hi, Faheem Pervez wrote: You sure you have a choice in the matter? Considering how you're already violating the GPL. Dave Neary wrote: I don't know the details of the situation. I just want to remind you that the GPL is a distribution licence. That's why we don't get all Google's changes to the Linux kernel and Apache back upstream. It seems that I've seen people say that Nokia doesn't even distribute the initfs tools. If that's the case, there wouldn't be any GPL violation. But Google isn't distributing their Linux Kernel or Apache, Nokia is distributing the initfs. Which is why Nokia is violating the GPL (I haven't checked myself that code is not being distributed for stuff in initfs). I'd say the best option is to poke Quim Gil as I assume he's the correct person to handle this (I'm CC'ing him although I assume he reads this list). Cheers, -- Maemo Software Nokia Devices ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Maemo Eclipse Integration project has just announced Beta 2 release
Hi, Maemo Eclipse Integration project has just announced Beta 2 release for Maemo IDE support and related components (that are ment to be used also without IDE like PC Connectivity). http://maemo.org/news/announcements/maemo_eclipse_integration_2nd_edition_beta_2_released/ Have a nice time with IDE (or text editor of your own choice) programming... Cheers, //Jarmo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released
Oops. Forgot to CC him. On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 14:33 +0200, ext e...@okerson.com wrote: Hi, Faheem Pervez wrote: You sure you have a choice in the matter? Considering how you're already violating the GPL. Dave Neary wrote: I don't know the details of the situation. I just want to remind you that the GPL is a distribution licence. That's why we don't get all Google's changes to the Linux kernel and Apache back upstream. It seems that I've seen people say that Nokia doesn't even distribute the initfs tools. If that's the case, there wouldn't be any GPL violation. But Google isn't distributing their Linux Kernel or Apache, Nokia is distributing the initfs. Which is why Nokia is violating the GPL (I haven't checked myself that code is not being distributed for stuff in initfs). I'd say the best option is to poke Quim Gil as I assume he's the correct person to handle this (I'm CC'ing him although I assume he reads this list). Cheers, -- Maemo Software Nokia Devices ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released
Dave Neary schrieb: Hi, Faheem Pervez wrote: You sure you have a choice in the matter? Considering how you're already violating the GPL. I don't know the details of the situation. I just want to remind you that the GPL is a distribution licence. That's why we don't get all Google's changes to the Linux kernel and Apache back upstream. It seems Well, Google publishes all the sources, see http://android.git.kernel.org/ This git seems impressively complete. But this is OT here since we are talking about Nokia/Maemo. Concerning obligations, Nokia nor anyone else is obliged by the license to push changes upstream - it is just good practise. You only have to give access to the changes or the whole (modified) source package, which Nokia in 99.9% of the cases properly did and which Google using the git, as far as we can tell from just looking at it, also did. What we can really moan and complain about is the lack of good practise with some businesses, since already mentioned, e.g. Google. They did a pretty bad job in working *together* with the communities to get their thing done. This is quite in contrast with Nokia which collaborated quite well from the very early beginning of the Maemo project. There is always room for improvement, but hey... But what really sucks badly is the tivolization taking place especially in the mobile phone area, where you get all the sources (due to license) and probably most of the tools but you f*ckn' cannot get a modified version of some part onto the device. This *really* sucks! And frankly it really hurts me. (For the Google stuff by some lucky coincidence the engineering bootloader leaked and a way to root the device but this was not intended neither by Google, HTC nor T-mobile). And here Nokia again is a little more open than many others by providing the flasher util, which basically allows you to install anything onto your tablet. I sincerely hope that this openness continues when Nokia releases Linux based mobile phones some day... that I've seen people say that Nokia doesn't even distribute the initfs tools. If that's the case, there wouldn't be any GPL violation. I might be wrong here but I am pretty sure that the GPL also requires you to give access to the tools that were used to generate the shipped version from the (L)GPLed sources. A little more specifically see: http://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2008/compliance-guide.html section 4.2.3 So you need at least have to say which *exact* tools were used and how they were used to produce the binary you shipped. So you do not necessarily have to directly supply them but you have to exactly name them and the way they ought to be used to reproduce the binary you shipped. Well, fair enough... I would also expect, though it is not mentioned there directly, that those tools have to available to everyone - with a price-tag maybe, but must be available. Cheers, Dave. Cheers nils faerber -- kernel concepts GbRTel: +49-271-771091-12 Sieghuetter Hauptweg 48Fax: +49-271-771091-19 D-57072 Siegen Mob: +49-176-21024535 http://www.kernelconcepts.de ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle an d Diablo released
Hi, I'm following the discussion but bare with me these days since I'm in the Desktop Summit well away from the office and the people to ask about this are very possibly on holidays until August (just like myself after the Summit). If you think we are violating any license or doing something wrong in general please file a bug or ping in an existing one, CCing me. This is the best way to discuss and solve a problem between different people across the Summer. Thank you! Quim --- original message --- From: Hassan Mohammed.2 (Nokia-D/Helsinki) mohammed.2.has...@nokia.com Subject: Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released Date: 3rd July 2009 Time: 3:53:52 pm Oops. Forgot to CC him. On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 14:33 +0200, ext e...@okerson.com wrote: Hi, Faheem Pervez wrote: You sure you have a choice in the matter? Considering how you're already violating the GPL. Dave Neary wrote: I don't know the details of the situation. I just want to remind you that the GPL is a distribution licence. That's why we don't get all Google's changes to the Linux kernel and Apache back upstream. It seems that I've seen people say that Nokia doesn't even distribute the initfs tools. If that's the case, there wouldn't be any GPL violation. But Google isn't distributing their Linux Kernel or Apache, Nokia is distributing the initfs. Which is why Nokia is violating the GPL (I haven't checked myself that code is not being distributed for stuff in initfs). I'd say the best option is to poke Quim Gil as I assume he's the correct person to handle this (I'm CC'ing him although I assume he reads this list). Cheers, -- Maemo Software Nokia Devices ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
