open source licensing of maemo 5 example code MIT vs GPL

2009-08-29 Thread gary liquid
hi,

I am interested in picking up some of the examples from the maemoexamples
collection provided by nokia.
(
https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/?root=maemoexamples)

When I went looking, I find many are licensed under a permissive MIT
license.
this is great and open source friendly, but my application is written under
the GPL.

I am not a licensing expert, so hopefully one of you guys will be able to
help.

is it possible to use and embed pieces of these examples into liqbase or
would they need recreating from scratch?

gary


example license:

https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/example_desktop_widget/COPYING?revision=259root=maemoexamplesview=markup
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Re: open source licensing of maemo 5 example code MIT vs GPL

2009-08-29 Thread gary liquid
haha maybe i should have opened my eyes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License

/thread before it even started


On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:19 AM, gary liquid liq...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi,

 I am interested in picking up some of the examples from the maemoexamples
 collection provided by nokia.
 (
 https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/?root=maemoexamples)

 When I went looking, I find many are licensed under a permissive MIT
 license.
 this is great and open source friendly, but my application is written under
 the GPL.

 I am not a licensing expert, so hopefully one of you guys will be able to
 help.

 is it possible to use and embed pieces of these examples into liqbase or
 would they need recreating from scratch?

 gary


 example license:


 https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/example_desktop_widget/COPYING?revision=259root=maemoexamplesview=markup

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Re: open source licensing of maemo 5 example code MIT vs GPL

2009-08-29 Thread Simón Pena
I'm not an expert, so I'd wait for another opinion, but take a look at
this: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/#Expat

I think it's the same license, and they say they're compatible.

2009/8/29 gary liquid liq...@gmail.com:
 hi,

 I am interested in picking up some of the examples from the maemoexamples
 collection provided by nokia.
 (
 https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/?root=maemoexamples
 )

 When I went looking, I find many are licensed under a permissive MIT
 license.
 this is great and open source friendly, but my application is written under
 the GPL.

 I am not a licensing expert, so hopefully one of you guys will be able to
 help.

 is it possible to use and embed pieces of these examples into liqbase or
 would they need recreating from scratch?

 gary


 example license:

 https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/example_desktop_widget/COPYING?revision=259root=maemoexamplesview=markup

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Re: open source licensing of maemo 5 example code MIT vs GPL

2009-08-29 Thread Jason Edgecombe
I believe MIT and GPL are compatible:

See http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/index_html#X11License

This license is sometimes called the /MIT license/, but that term is 
misleading, since MIT has used many licenses for software


Simón Pena wrote:
 I'm not an expert, so I'd wait for another opinion, but take a look at
 this: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/#Expat

 I think it's the same license, and they say they're compatible.

 2009/8/29 gary liquid liq...@gmail.com:
   
 hi,

 I am interested in picking up some of the examples from the maemoexamples
 collection provided by nokia.
 (
 https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/?root=maemoexamples
 )

 When I went looking, I find many are licensed under a permissive MIT
 license.
 this is great and open source friendly, but my application is written under
 the GPL.

 I am not a licensing expert, so hopefully one of you guys will be able to
 help.

 is it possible to use and embed pieces of these examples into liqbase or
 would they need recreating from scratch?

 gary


 example license:

 https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/example_desktop_widget/COPYING?revision=259root=maemoexamplesview=markup

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Re: Subversion and libesd?

2009-08-29 Thread Jeremiah Foster

On Aug 28, 2009, at 13:53, Graham Cobb wrote:

 On Thursday 27 August 2009 23:23:57 Jeremiah Foster wrote:
 It has gone through the builder, but has not shown up in the file
 system as a deb yet.

 It still hasn't shown up in the repository.

libsoup2.4 is in the SDK - can you use that?

Jeremiah
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Re: Proposal: XSBC-Bugtracker in debian package

2009-08-29 Thread Ryan Abel
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Graham Cobbg+...@cobb.uk.net wrote:
 I presume a garage tracker is an acceptable URL.  If Ed ever gets the chance
 to do his autobuild from garage proposal he could default this to the
 associated tracker!


Acceptable, but probably not preferable. I'd like to see everybody
move as far away from the GForge tracker as possible. ;)
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Re: Proposal: XSBC-Bugtracker in debian package

2009-08-29 Thread Graham Cobb
On Saturday 29 August 2009 16:23:43 Ryan Abel wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Graham Cobbg+...@cobb.uk.net wrote:
  I presume a garage tracker is an acceptable URL.  If Ed ever gets the
  chance to do his autobuild from garage proposal he could default this
  to the associated tracker!

 Acceptable, but probably not preferable. I'd like to see everybody
 move as far away from the GForge tracker as possible. ;)

That is a good point.  But people who use garage for development probably 
don't have access to any other system for a bug tracker.  Maybe provide 
better bug tracker should be on the wishlist for garage?  Or, maybe there 
should be a garage section in the Maemo bug tracker?

In my case, the one application I store on garage has a niche user base 
(maybe 4 people?) so I think they could put up with it.

Graham


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Re: Subversion and libesd?

2009-08-29 Thread Graham Cobb
On Saturday 29 August 2009 15:08:43 Jeremiah Foster wrote:
 On Aug 28, 2009, at 13:53, Graham Cobb wrote:
  On Thursday 27 August 2009 23:23:57 Jeremiah Foster wrote:
  It has gone through the builder, but has not shown up in the file
  system as a deb yet.
 
  It still hasn't shown up in the repository.

 libsoup2.4 is in the SDK - can you use that?

I don't think so.  I haven't looked into it recently but I believe I did look 
into it when an earlier SDK (chinook?) started shipping 2.4.

I would rather spend the small amount of time I have available over the next 
couple of weeks addressing the things that **have** to be addressed to port 
to Fremantle (like sound or alarm support for GPE and testing Opensync).  
There is no reason why libsoup2.2 and libsoup2.4 can't both be available 
(like in chinook and diablo).  We just need whoever owns the repository 
process to work out why your successful build of libsoup2.2 hasn't made it 
into the repository!

Graham
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Re: Proposal: XSBC-Bugtracker in debian package

2009-08-29 Thread Ryan Abel
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Graham Cobbg+...@cobb.uk.net wrote:
 On Saturday 29 August 2009 16:23:43 Ryan Abel wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Graham Cobbg+...@cobb.uk.net wrote:
  I presume a garage tracker is an acceptable URL.  If Ed ever gets the
  chance to do his autobuild from garage proposal he could default this
  to the associated tracker!

 Acceptable, but probably not preferable. I'd like to see everybody
 move as far away from the GForge tracker as possible. ;)

 That is a good point.  But people who use garage for development probably
 don't have access to any other system for a bug tracker.  Maybe provide
 better bug tracker should be on the wishlist for garage?  Or, maybe there
 should be a garage section in the Maemo bug tracker?


Well, it hasn't been heavily advertised yet (as the process still
requires a lot of overhead), but we're moving to Bugzilla for
community bug tracking. The Extras classification on Bugzilla contains
all Extras projects (most with Garage projects). Eventually this will
be automated, but it'll require some software updates first.
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