Re: Any spare N810 ribbon cables?
Take a look at: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=42775 I found a source for the N810 ribbon cables. Frank On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Vivia Nikolaidou vi...@ee.auth.gr wrote: Hello, I decided to operate on my broken n810 and came across this: (WARNING: it hurts just to look at it) http://imagebin.org/119408 Of course, any ideas on how to fix this are welcome, but since I don't think that's possible, I'd be glad if someone had a spare N810 ribbon cable to send me ☺ Thanks, Vivia PS: No, I currently can't afford a N900 or so ☹ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo QA process
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Roman Morawek li...@morawek.at wrote: I am the owner of an N900 program and promoted my package to extras-testing ca. 2 months ago. Right now there are only 2 votes on it. I wonder how many more months it will take until 10 persons vote for it such that I can promote it to extras (given that the votes are positive). Don't feel bad, mine is at 4 months. I already have a bunch of improvements ready since several weeks. However, I do not dare to upload them because my package will start the evaluation sequence then again from scratch. I think this is a big disadvantage for the community, because the tool could already be much better. Been there, done that, might as well upload it. It's annoying but in the end the new features will take the same number of votes whether you do it now or later. I personally see my program as very useful - well, otherwise I wouldn't have spent the time for development. I assume that just nobody is aware of it, since everybody just looks at the available programs in extras. At least this is what I did to search for useful tools. Did you post on talk.maemo.org? That will get a few eyeballs on it. Be sure to post screen shots. Also, get it into the weekly news letter that goes out. It has a section for applications. From my perspective, the current QA process should be reconsidered. Maybe an automatic promotion after 4 weeks would make sense, given its actual package karma is positive? I would be OK with this as long as there were a way to have a package removed in the event that something was found when it did reach a wider audience. Allow thumbs down on extras but require a bug report and give the developer a way to respond. Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: capturing key presses on N770
Does http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2006/becomeroot/ do the trick? Frank On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Vinod Nanjaiah vinod_nanja...@mindtree.com wrote: Hi, I cross compiled and ran evkey.c but got an error. $ ./evkey -d /dev/input/event0 evdev open: permission denied I guess I have to run this as root. But, I could not find a .deb file for rootsh/becomeroot. I could not find the flasher.exe also for N770 to enable root. Please help. I also tried installing powerlaunch. But failed to find the dependencies for it - libglade2. Is there any single repository from which I can download the required .deb files for N770. Thank you, Vinod From: Frantisek Dufka [duf...@seznam.cz] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:07 PM To: Vinod Nanjaiah Cc: maemo-develop...@maemo.orgg Subject: Re: capturing key presses on N770 Vinod Nanjaiah wrote: Hi, I am trying to capture key presses of the Hard keys (Up, Down, Left, Right, Home, etc) on Nokia N770. Is it possible to do so using a simple c program or shell script? Not sure what is the scenario you want to use it for. For low level access you can use kernel input subsystem directly see e.g. evkey.c [1] and its usage in bootmenu.sh [2]. Just beware that different devices have different device names and key events still go to the rest of the system. For playing nice with the system using powerlaunch [3] is indeed better. I am not aware of 770 version (the author [4] has/had N800) but the source is here [4]. Maybe it could build fine at least in OS2007 hacker edition. Frantisek 1. https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/tags/bootmenu_0_1/?root=bootmenu 2. https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/bootmenu/files/?root=bootmenu 3. http://powerlaunch.garage.maemo.org/ 4. http://austinche.name/maemo/index.html 5. http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/diablo/free/source/p/powerlaunch/ http://www.mindtree.com/email/disclaimer.html ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Wetab Android stack on Maemo/MeeGo
Reminds me of OS/2 and Windows. In that case, there was little incentive to write for OS/2 natively, instead developers took the lowest common denominator to achieve the largest market share for the least effort. Not a bash on Android, it has it's advantages. Frank On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 6:31 AM, Christopher Intemann intem...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I just read that the Wetab http://wetab.mobi/ tablet will come with an Android-stack that will allow users to install Android apps on the tablet even thoug it is not natively running Android. This stack seems to be a kind of Android runtime environment based on Android 2.1. I really wonder if it would be possible to get this stack running on Maemo/MeeGo or if Nokia might be willing to include such a stack in upcoming OS releases. Many apps are currently released for Apple iOS or Android, but there are barely Apps released for Maemo/MeeGo. Therefore an Android runtime environment would be a great asset for Maemo/MeeGo users IMHO, especially since Nokia is not about to release Android phones in the near future. However, I also see the possibility that such a stack could draw even more developers away from native development for Nokia (e.g. in QT). What do you think? Cheers, Chris ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: capturing key presses on N770
Hi, With C and GTK it's certainly possible, I do so in TabletBridge. https://garage.maemo.org/projects/tabletsb/ Frank On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Vinod Nanjaiah vinod_nanja...@mindtree.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to capture key presses of the Hard keys (Up, Down, Left, Right, Home, etc) on Nokia N770. Is it possible to do so using a simple c program or shell script? Any pointers are welcome. Thank you, Vinod http://www.mindtree.com/email/disclaimer.html ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: GSoC 2010, eBook reader. Looking for feedback and ideas.
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/4/30 Benoît HERVIER kher...@khertan.net: Personnally most of the time, specially when reading technicals books with programming line code ;) I think both is usefull, depends of book's type, and personnal preferences ... Looks like I'm the only one reading books in landscape mode ! :) I read exclusively on my N900 and only in landscape mode if you are looking for votes. Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: google services-gsoc2010!
File storage/retrieval throgh Google Docs? Frank On 3/27/10, anky ankurdn...@gmail.com wrote: hello community members, I was developing a reusable wrapper for google apps which i would further extend to other apis also i have already introduced the idea. With this mail i wanted to know that which all google services would you like to see integrated in maemo 1. gmail inbox feed 2.to-do 3.calendar these all are what i had thought as basic things...but more can be added like the bloggers api, the spreadsheet etc so i wanted your feedback as what all services you would like to see or use( for developers, since i am making a reusable library) for/in maemo ?? thanks -- ANKY ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Deleting Project PyGTKEditor from Garage
One person setting up their own repository is hardly dividing the Maemo community, IMHO. Frank On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: Benoît HERVIER wrote: Once the package will be removed from extras, extras-testing, and extras-devel you will be able to install the new version from my own repository. Why are you attempting to divide the Maemo community? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Deleting Project PyGTKEditor from Garage
2010/3/24 Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com: If the Maemo folks (Maemo.org masters) do not wish to change the QA design by only writing an e-mail to them then you should create a bug about it or form an official petition to see the QA policy changed. Storming off and creating a new repo is not a *mature* or friendly solution. The last thing I'd like to see is Maemo split into one repo per app. One or more bugs were created before the request to have the applications removed was presented. Creating a new repository should not be judged by maturity, that's just a personal attack and not required. Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N810, GPS and Java
Hi, Java isn't really supported on the N810, so you'll have to go another route. Frank On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Demetris demet...@ece.neu.edu wrote: Hi all, is there a Java API available for accessing the GPS device on the N810? I have a feeling asking for a Java API may be a tough one, so in such a case, a C? Any other type? I am pretty much interested on retrieving the appropriate data for my current location that I can feed into Google Maps (or an OS2008 map app) or a distance app for giving me the closest pts of interest to my location. Thanks ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N810, GPS and Java
Covered in Dr Dobbs even... http://www.drdobbs.com/java/208801979 I did not realize it was this far along. Thanks! Frank 2010/3/5 Henning Heinold h.hein...@tarent.de: Quoting Frank Banul frank.ba...@gmail.com: Hi, Java isn't really supported on the N810, so you'll have to go another route. Frank Hm? Please look at www.jalimo.org Bye Henning __ Besuchen Sie uns auf unserem diesjährigen CeBIT Gemeinschaftsstand Open Source Berlin (Halle 2 Stand C36) vom 02.03. - 06.03.2010! __ tarent Gesellschaft für Softwareentwicklung und IT-Beratung mbH Geschäftsführer: Boris Esser, Elmar Geese HRB AG Bonn 5168 - Ust-ID: DE122264941 http://www.tarent.com/ Heilsbachstr. 24, 53123 Bonn, fon +49 228 52675-0, fax +49 228 52675-25 Weigandufer 45, 12059 Berlin, fon +49 30 5682943-30, fax +49 228 52675-25 Schützenstr. 18, 10117 Berlin, fon +49 30 27594853, fax +49 30 78709617 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [MeeGo-dev] Twitter client for Maemo in Qt + Python: call for developers and UI designers
PyQt. Frank On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 22 February 2010 18:01, Gibran Rodriguez brangi...@gmail.com wrote: Do you think PySide could be used at some point? I'm going to use PySide :) Do you know any other working binding for Qt available for Maemo? -- Andrea Grandi email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com website: http://www.andreagrandi.it PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [MeeGo-dev] Twitter client for Maemo in Qt + Python: call for developers and UI designers
In my experience, you can switch back and forth easily. So you can use either. Auto routing of signals was the biggest annoyance to me so far (PyQt yes, PySide no). Well that and cross platform availability. Frank On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Sivan Greenberg si...@omniqueue.com wrote: Right, so at the moment PyQT supports more of the Qt bindings. But I think we should use PySide and help the PySide team enable more of the bindings we require, or at least ask them for those critical for the app development. Sivan On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Frank Banul frank.ba...@gmail.com wrote: PyQt. Frank On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 22 February 2010 18:01, Gibran Rodriguez brangi...@gmail.com wrote: Do you think PySide could be used at some point? I'm going to use PySide :) Do you know any other working binding for Qt available for Maemo? -- Andrea Grandi email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com website: http://www.andreagrandi.it PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: why do my .service and .desktop files end up in the root directory?
Um, I don't follow this suggestion. I have in my data/Makefile.am: serviceentry_DATA = com.kjainvestments.tabletbridge.service desktopentry_DATA = tabletbridge.desktop icon_26x26_DATA = icons/26x26/tabletbridge.png icon_40x40_DATA = icons/40x40/tabletbridge.png icon_scalable_DATA = icons/scalable/tabletbridge.png icons/scalable/tabletbridge-wait.png EXTRA_DIST = $(serviceentry_DATA) $(desktopentry_DATA) $(icon_26x26_DATA) $(icon_40x40_DATA) $(icon_scalable_DATA) I looked at other data/Makefile.am files and they are the same. What am I missing? thanks, Frank On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:55 AM, Faheem Pervez tripp...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, and now that I'm looking at it a bit better, telling data/Makefile.am to actually use $serviceentry et al. may help. On 1/6/10, Faheem Pervez tripp...@gmail.com wrote: Ed Bartosh looked into this for another person last time and his solution applies here, too: Add osso-af-settings to Build-Depends. -Faheem On 1/6/10, Frank Banul frank.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can any one give me any hints (or answers) on why my .service and .desktop files end up in the their proper locations and in the root directory of the device? I've been staring at the scripts but really don't see where I've gone wrong. I've also examined other source packages. The source is http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/source/t/tabletbridge/tabletbridge_0.2.4.tar.gz Thanks in advance. The user's root directory appreciate your help. ;) thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: why do my .service and .desktop files end up in the root directory?
This was not in my debian/control but I have added this now. thanks, Frank On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Faheem Pervez tripp...@gmail.com wrote: Ed Bartosh looked into this for another person last time and his solution applies here, too: Add osso-af-settings to Build-Depends. -Faheem On 1/6/10, Frank Banul frank.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can any one give me any hints (or answers) on why my .service and .desktop files end up in the their proper locations and in the root directory of the device? I've been staring at the scripts but really don't see where I've gone wrong. I've also examined other source packages. The source is http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/source/t/tabletbridge/tabletbridge_0.2.4.tar.gz Thanks in advance. The user's root directory appreciate your help. ;) thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: why do my .service and .desktop files end up in the root directory?
No apologies necessary. Thanks for taking the time to look. Frank - Original message - Apologies, I was typing from my bedside in the morning; clearly, I hadn't woken up. ;) I'm used to seeing things like servicedir = $(DIR) in Makefile.am but you did that in configure.ac. Best Regards, Faheem On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Frank Banul frank.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Um, I don't follow this suggestion. I have in my data/Makefile.am: serviceentry_DATA = com.kjainvestments.tabletbridge.service desktopentry_DATA = tabletbridge.desktop icon_26x26_DATA = icons/26x26/tabletbridge.png icon_40x40_DATA = icons/40x40/tabletbridge.png icon_scalable_DATA = icons/scalable/tabletbridge.png icons/scalable/tabletbridge-wait.png EXTRA_DIST = $(serviceentry_DATA) $(desktopentry_DATA) $(icon_26x26_DATA) $(icon_40x40_DATA) $(icon_scalable_DATA) I looked at other data/Makefile.am files and they are the same. What am I missing? thanks, Frank On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:55 AM, Faheem Pervez tripp...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, and now that I'm looking at it a bit better, telling data/Makefile.am to actually use $serviceentry et al. may help. On 1/6/10, Faheem Pervez tripp...@gmail.com wrote: Ed Bartosh looked into this for another person last time and his solution applies here, too: Add osso-af-settings to Build-Depends. -Faheem On 1/6/10, Frank Banul frank.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can any one give me any hints (or answers) on why my .service and .desktop files end up in the their proper locations and in the root directory of the device? I've been staring at the scripts but really don't see where I've gone wrong. I've also examined other source packages. The source is http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/source/t/tabletbridge/tabletbridge_0.2.4.tar.gz Thanks in advance. The user's root directory appreciate your help. ;) thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: why do my .service and .desktop files end up in the root directory?
Thanks, this did the trick. Frank - Original message - Ed Bartosh looked into this for another person last time and his solution applies here, too: Add osso-af-settings to Build-Depends. -Faheem On 1/6/10, Frank Banul frank.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can any one give me any hints (or answers) on why my .service and .desktop files end up in the their proper locations and in the root directory of the device? I've been staring at the scripts but really don't see where I've gone wrong. I've also examined other source packages. The source is http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/source/t/tabletbridge/tabletbridge_0.2.4.tar.gz Thanks in advance. The user's root directory appreciate your help. ;) thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
why do my .service and .desktop files end up in the root directory?
Hi, Can any one give me any hints (or answers) on why my .service and .desktop files end up in the their proper locations and in the root directory of the device? I've been staring at the scripts but really don't see where I've gone wrong. I've also examined other source packages. The source is http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/source/t/tabletbridge/tabletbridge_0.2.4.tar.gz Thanks in advance. The user's root directory appreciate your help. ;) thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: why do my .service and .desktop files end up in the root directory?
It's probably the same but my most recent source is here http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/source/t/tabletbridge/tabletbridge_0.2.4-4.tar.gz, not the below link. thanks, Frank On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Frank Banul frank.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can any one give me any hints (or answers) on why my .service and .desktop files end up in the their proper locations and in the root directory of the device? I've been staring at the scripts but really don't see where I've gone wrong. I've also examined other source packages. The source is http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/source/t/tabletbridge/tabletbridge_0.2.4.tar.gz Thanks in advance. The user's root directory appreciate your help. ;) thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
ping time between N810 and N900
Hi, I got the N900 yesterday. I tried out my application and it seems less responsive when interacting over the network. I think I'm doing pretty straight forward socket communication between the Nokias and Roku Soundbridges. Anyway, I tried a ping to my access point and the times differ quite a bit. The N810 averages 23ms while the N900 averages 49ms. I assume it's due to the power savings of the wifi chip but wanted to confirm if anyone else is seeing similar results. thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Package does not end up in DIABLO extras-devel
You should have received an email from the Maemo Extras Builder, in it there should be a link to the logs. https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/ Frank On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Bruce Forsberg bruce.forsb...@gmail.com wrote: I am working on porting eboard, which is in OS2007, to OS2008 DIABLO. I have got it to compile successfully with the autobuilder but the package never ends up in extras-devel. I have a Section: entry of user/games. Is there a log somewhere that I can look at to find what is wrong with my package so that I can fix it? Thanks, Bruce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: QA process = bug fixing disincentive?
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 13:58, Henrik Hedberg henrik.hedb...@innologies.fi wrote: On Nov 3, 2009, at 12:16, Andrew Flegg wrote: Agreed. -maemo0 to -maemo1 is supposed to be a Maemo-specific change or a packaging change (AIUI). Native packages (such as Hermes, Attitude etc.) don't have that suffix and use a traditional x.y.z numbering scheme. Not necessarily. There is no official version numbering sceme for native Maemo packages. For example, some packages are using date, like 20091019. True. Packages are promoted with the web interface. Simple checkbox there is enough to implement this feature. Except how do you try to prevent abuse (whether intentional or accidental)? At least with the version number you've got some safety check (although it is in no way comprehensive). It also requires more changes at more levels (I bet), so harder to implement. I don't see the difference between the safety of version numbers or check boxes on the promotion page since I control both. Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: QA process = bug fixing disincentive?
Hi, I just threw away 5 karma to make some changes (but I think worthwhile). I think the idea is that when there's many more users, 10 silly karma points will be nothing. Until then, have faith, or something like that. :) Frank On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org wrote: Hi, After working 'til stupid o'clock last night on a new version of Hermes, today someone's found a bug which'll impact a small number of people. The fix is trivial. However, I find myself *not* wanting to fix it as it'll need to go through another round of testing. Although the principle of resetting package karma to 0 made some sense - as any change could fundamentally break the package - it's also true that a one-line change to a relatively mature package probably won't change whether it's optified; its power usage profile; its package description and icon etc. Perhaps there's an argument that some proportion of the karma earned should be retained, inversely related to length of time in -testing so far? Thoughts welcome. Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:and...@bleb.org | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fremantle SDK: Segfault when opening HildonNote
Thanks very much for tracking this down. This cost me some time recently. FWIW, I found that the segfault was more often than not going to happen, but didn't always happen. Every once in a while I could get a note up without a segfault. Frank On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de wrote: On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 20:39 +0200, Fred Lefévère-Laoide wrote: I just noticed the Assertion about pulsecore/socket-client.c and thought it might be sound (pulseaudio) related ... I don't know if there is already a bug filed about that ... Ah ok, I thought it might be some very well known issue :) There was no bug yet, so I filed it: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5168 Cheers! Conny ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: PUSH N900 (Was Re: N900 usb host + power charge)
Maybe serial control a USB host? http://www.compsys1.com/html/usb_host_kit.html On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Attila Csipa ma...@csipa.in.rs wrote: On Sunday 20 September 2009 23:11:07 Kees Jongenburger wrote: I indeed planed to use usb-host in my project. perhaps we can use the connectors behind the battery, previous models used to have serial there. If anybody has a bright ideas on how to connect something to the n900 that would be great. Well if you need just serial and don't mind the expense, probably the easiest way is a bluetooth modem, a la http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=582 A bit more out-of-the-box thinking is to do things backwards, i.e. get a beefy microcontroller that does USB host mode or USB OTG, and have the N900 connect to that. This will also require some software wizardry as the N900 will want to present itself as mass storage, but maybe that can be hacked/tweaked. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: zoom/volume?
Hi, I used GDK_F7 and GDK_F8 instead. Is this appropriate? Frank On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Till Harbaum / Listsli...@harbaum.org wrote: Hi, Am Dienstag 23 Juni 2009 schrieb ext-mox.so...@nokia.com: I think these were already available in the previous SDKs? They aren't in fremantle and they don't work on the development units. Till ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fremantle OpenGL wrapper?
If you accept that games are the most popular category for the iphone, and you also accept that it doesn't have a keyboard, then worrying about the input method on the maemo platform seems a bit too far down in the details as long as the maemo platform has at least the same input methods as the iphone. Anything else is a bonus. Frank On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Qole qole.tab...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Simon Pickering s.g.picker...@bath.ac.uk wrote: Am Mittwoch 03 Juni 2009 schrieb Qole: I really want the next Maemo device to succeed, and one of the first things the gadget blogs and technophiles will want to see is the games. This means Playing games? What input method do you expect to use? Till Bluetooth games controller/kb! :) I was thinking the keyboard, but the accelerometer could be used, too... -- enthusiast, n. One whose mind is wholly possessed and heated by what engages it; one who is influenced by a peculiar fervor of mind; an ardent and imaginative person. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N810 device and Maemo Fremantle SDK beta
No and no. You can use the x86 scratchbox target or get a beagleboard. Frank On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:57 PM, diptiman roy roy.dipti...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi, Is maemo fremantle beta is compiable with N810. Can we use it for developing application for N810? Please, inform me. DIPTIMAN ROY Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with Yahoo! India Travel Click here! ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: QA from extras-devel to extras-testing
Just for thought since I uploaded my app to the fremantle autobuilder last night: The Tabletbridge application connects to Roku Soundbridge devices. It's pretty useless if you don't have a Soundbridge on your network. I'm sure there are similar applications that are not self contained. Of the testing group that you have available, how many will have Soundbridges on their network? Will my application not be allowed in extras because of this? I grant you can do some basic tests that the application will start and install but you won't be able to detect a crash or battery drain as a majority of the code is not executed until a connection is made. Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
sdk installation trouble
Hi All, I'm trying to install the Maemo 5 SDK. Any ideas on the following error? The googling I did led to a maemo.org bug marked WORKSFORME. :( thanks, Frank u...@ubuntu704desktop:~$ sudo /home/user/maemo-scratchbox-install_5.0beta.sh-u user sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu704desktop This script will install Scratchbox 1.0.14 'apophis' release to your computer. Install options --- Install from packages=apt Scratchbox install path=/scratchbox Scratchbox group=sbox armel compiler=cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm i386 compiler=cs2007q3-glibc2.5-i386 armel devkits=apt-https:perl:debian-etch:qemu:doctools:svn:git i386 devkits=apt-https:perl:debian-etch:doctools:svn:git armel CPU transparency=qemu-arm-sb Checking for prerequisites -- Running as user root... yes Not running as user root inside fakeroot... yes Running outside of scratchbox... yes Running on Linux kernel... yes Running on i386 architecture... yes Host kernel binfmt_misc support... yes Host kernel VDSO support... yes No host kernel SELinux extensions... yes Host kernel local IPv4 port range... yes Scratchbox installation not existing... yes No conflicting binfmt_misc interpreter... yes Scratchbox user names... user yes Everything seems to be ok. Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release.gpg Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Translation-en_US SNIP some stuff to get below the size limit Hit http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/multiverse Sources Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/restricted Packages Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main Sources Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/restricted Sources Ign http://scratchbox.org maemo5-sdk/main Packages Get:2 http://scratchbox.org maemo5-sdk/main Packages [1428B] Fetched 1653B in 1s (1271B/s) Reading package lists... Done Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done scratchbox-devkit-debian is already the newest version. scratchbox-devkit-perl is already the newest version. Suggested packages: nfs-server dialog The following NEW packages will be installed: scratchbox-devkit-apt-https scratchbox-devkit-git scratchbox-devkit-qemu scratchbox-devkit-svn scratchbox-toolchain-cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7 scratchbox-toolchain-cs2007q3-glibc2.5-i486 scratchbox-toolchain-host-gcc The following packages will be upgraded: scratchbox-core scratchbox-devkit-doctools scratchbox-libs 3 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. Need to get 425MB of archives. After this operation, 686MB of additional disk space will be used. WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! scratchbox-libs scratchbox-core scratchbox-devkit-qemu scratchbox-devkit-apt-https scratchbox-devkit-doctools scratchbox-devkit-git scratchbox-devkit-svn scratchbox-toolchain-cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7 scratchbox-toolchain-cs2007q3-glibc2.5-i486 scratchbox-toolchain-host-gcc Get:1 http://scratchbox.org maemo5-sdk/main scratchbox-libs 1.0.14 [14.3MB] Get:2 http://scratchbox.org maemo5-sdk/main scratchbox-core 1.0.14 [48.1MB] Get:3 http://scratchbox.org maemo5-sdk/main scratchbox-devkit-qemu 0.10.0-0sb5 [3296kB] Get:4 http://scratchbox.org maemo5-sdk/main scratchbox-devkit-apt-https 1.0.7 [2982kB] Get:5 http://scratchbox.org maemo5-sdk/main scratchbox-devkit-doctools 1.0.11 [136MB] Get:6 http://scratchbox.org maemo5-sdk/main scratchbox-devkit-git 1.0.1 [5596kB] Get:7 http://scratchbox.org maemo5-sdk/main scratchbox-devkit-svn 1.0 [15.3MB] Get:8 http://scratchbox.org maemo5-sdk/main scratchbox-toolchain-cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7 1.0.11-8 [101MB] Get:9 http://scratchbox.org maemo5-sdk/main scratchbox-toolchain-cs2007q3-glibc2.5-i486 1.0.11-6 [93.7MB] Get:10 http://scratchbox.org maemo5-sdk/main scratchbox-toolchain-host-gcc 1.0.14 [4356kB] Fetched 425MB in 20min33s (345kB/s) Preconfiguring packages ... (Reading database ... 217480 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace scratchbox-libs 1.0.10 (using .../scratchbox-libs_1.0.14_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement scratchbox-libs ... Preparing to replace scratchbox-core 1.0.10 (using .../scratchbox-core_1.0.14_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement scratchbox-core ... Selecting previously deselected package scratchbox-devkit-qemu. Unpacking scratchbox-devkit-qemu (from .../scratchbox-devkit-qemu_0.10.0-0sb5_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package scratchbox-devkit-apt-https. Unpacking scratchbox-devkit-apt-https (from .../scratchbox-devkit-apt-https_1.0.7_i386.deb) ... Preparing to replace scratchbox-devkit-doctools 1.0.8 (using .../scratchbox-devkit-doctools_1.0.11_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement scratchbox-devkit-doctools ... Selecting previously deselected package scratchbox-devkit-git. Unpacking scratchbox-devkit-git (from .../scratchbox-devkit-git_1.0.1_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package scratchbox-devkit-svn. Unpacking scratchbox-devkit-svn (from
Re: sdk installation trouble
Yes, that is the bug I found. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Andre Klapper aklap...@openismus.comwrote: Am Mittwoch, den 06.05.2009, 08:11 -0500 schrieb Frank Banul: I'm trying to install the Maemo 5 SDK. Any ideas on the following error? The googling I did led to a maemo.org bug marked WORKSFORME. :( https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1830 I assume? andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: sdk installation trouble
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Valerio Valerio vdv...@gmail.com wrote: This should be related to the bug that Andre point in the previous mail, the strange thing is that scratchbox assume that you have debian devkit installed: 'scratchbox-devkit-debian is already the newest version'. So should be a different bug/problem, can you check what is inside '/scratchbox/devkits/' ? You had a previous scratchbox installation in your system ? I've got two previous versions (2 and 4) but they should be out of the picture for the purposes of this installation. The directory /scratchbox was empty when I started installation. I stop the scratchbox services and change symbolic links to have multiple versions of the SDKs available. My VM is at home so I won't be able to check the contents of /scratchbox/devkits/ until tonight. thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: sdk installation trouble
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Frank Banul frank.ba...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Valerio Valerio vdv...@gmail.com wrote: This should be related to the bug that Andre point in the previous mail, the strange thing is that scratchbox assume that you have debian devkit installed: 'scratchbox-devkit-debian is already the newest version'. So should be a different bug/problem, can you check what is inside '/scratchbox/devkits/' ? There's quite a bit in /scratchbox/devkits, anything in particular I should be looking for? u...@ubuntu704desktop:~$ ls -l /scratchbox/devkits/ total 24 drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 2009-05-05 21:59 apt-https drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2009-05-05 22:24 cputransp drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 4096 2009-05-05 22:00 doctools drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 2009-05-05 22:00 git drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2009-05-05 21:59 qemu drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4096 2009-05-05 22:00 svn thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: sdk installation trouble
Got it! After manually adding deb http://scratchbox.org/debian/ maemo5-sdk main to /etc/apt/sources.list and running: sudo apt-get remove scratchbox-devkit-debian sudo apt-get install scratchbox-devkit-debian sudo apt-get remove scratchbox-devkit-perl sudo apt-get install scratchbox-devkit-perl My /scratchbox/devkits looks better and the maemo-sdk-install_5.0beta.sh script starts up. Thanks for the hints. Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
garage.maemo.org seems like the appropriate place. Would splitting the file be a possibility that would allow garage usage (at the expense of end user convenience)? Frank On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Qole qole.tab...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, My long-time host, maemobox.org, is being shut down this week. Is there anyone willing to host my image files? They are large (over 300 MB each) and they contain the root filesystems of various alternate distributions, tweaked to run in a chroot. At this point, garage.maemo.org doesn't allow file uploads of the size I need (maximum 150MB files there). If I can't find a host for, at least, my Easy Debian rootfs image, I will have to remove Easy Debian from the extras repository. -- enthusiast, n. One whose mind is wholly possessed and heated by what engages it; one who is influenced by a peculiar fervor of mind; an ardent and imaginative person. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Issues with RTComm...
Well you are not alone. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4032 http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23706highlight=msn That being said, I do have MSN working with rtcomm on my tablet but I've probably had it installed since chinook. Frank On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Magnus Ihse Bursie mag...@ihse.netwrote: Hi, I recently found out about the RTComm beta at http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/. I followed the instructions and downloaded the installer on my N810, running the latest OS updates. However, the installer did not function correctly. It tried to setup a repository at collabora.co.uk for chinook on haze idle salut. After some poking around at collabora:s site, I changed this to diablo and user instead. This made the installation succeed. So, maybe you should update the installation script for diablo users? The beta seems to work very well with my ICQ and Yahoo accounts, and that's very cool. :) Thank you for that! However, my MSN account is not working. All I get to is a popup Unable to connect to one or more of your accounts when I enable the MSN account. When pressing the green icon at the iconbar, I also see a MSN butterfly icon and the message Network error. I have been unable to find any more information about what's wrong. Is this a known problem with MSN? If not, is there a way to get more detailed information about what's wrong (a log or something like that)? /Magnus ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Non-free projects in garage (was Re: introducing friendscard -- a browser-less, gesture-based facebook client)
I would like to see some non free software developed for the tablets. If using maemo.org helps the fledgling maemo non free market grow, I think it's a good thing. Until it becomes a burden on the maemo.org resources, I would hope that all software that will expand the tablet's potential market share would be encouraged. Also, having it on maemo.org keeps users from searching in multiple locations for tablet software. If maemo.org wants to be a one stop shop for all of your tablet needs, non free and free will need to both exist (I hope). IMHO, Frank On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Alex T. W. LEUNG alexle...@astri.org wrote: I would like to upload it to chinook-extras-devel, non-free category. !!! First things first, this is *not* a specific dig at freindscard - or !!! any other non-free project in Garage. Now, now the disclaimer's out of the way, what is the general thought about non-free software in garage.maemo.org? It /feels/ a little wrong (even if you don't describe to RMS levels of conviction about free software): maemo.org is the home of the Maemo Community and Garage is a service offered to projects who need a VCS, a homepage and some download space. However, non-free software isn't going to use the VCS and there are other solutions for proprietary apps to have homepages and some download space. What's the benefit to those projects, and to maemo.org, of providing these services to non-free projects? Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:and...@bleb.org | http://www.bleb.org/ Maemo Community Council member ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
scratchbox ide
Hi all, I've got scratchbox installed on an Ubuntu host for compiling tablet programs. I'm curious what development tools you use? Textedit is nice and all but I'm sure that there are better tools. I would be interested in an editor that supported more code oriented tasks. Any suggestions? thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: scratchbox ide
Hi,
I suppose I should have added that I still compile for OS2006. It appears
that ESbox doesn't support Gregale. Can Eclipse be used just for source
editing?
Frank
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:42 AM, José Luís jlu...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
You can use ESbox eclipse plugin (http://esbox.garage.maemo.org/index.html
).
Att,
José Luís
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 13:26, Frank Banul frank.ba...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I've got scratchbox installed on an Ubuntu host for compiling tablet
programs.
I'm curious what development tools you use? Textedit is nice and all but
I'm sure that there are better tools. I would be interested in an editor
that supported more code oriented tasks. Any suggestions?
thanks,
Frank
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Re: Maemo 5 and hw accelerated X.Org?
The BeagleBoard (http://beagleboard.org/) seems to be the most appropriate hardware. Frank On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Quim Gil quim@nokia.com wrote: Hi Tuomas, ext Tuomas Kulve wrote: I was also interested to see if Nokia has accelerated the X.Org server with the PowerVR hardware but unfortunately I didn't find the X.Org server sources (nor a video driver) in the release. I understand that X server isn't needed for the SDK but neither would be the kernel. Any plans on releasing the X.Org sources (or actually the video driver)? It would be interesting to test Maemo stuff with accelerated X server on existing OMAP3 hardware, like the Beagle Board. All this is still in development. The plan is to publish the open components with the beta SDK. Some of the acceleration graphics code go under components maintained by Maemo SW in the Kernel and Xorg. We plan to open those. Many others are directly tied to PowerVR and they come as binaries only. Decisions on their licensing depend on Imagination, who owns the technology. By the way, it is also our interest that the community can put their hands on Maemo 5 using OMAP3 hardware available. Ideas and help are welcome. -- Quim Gil marketing manager, open source Maemo Software @ Nokia ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Assuring quality in extras (was Re: Beware)
What about making the system able to help the user identify the problem? In your specific example, consider battery usage. I think it would be very beneficial if the tablet by default could show usage history as well as battery charge over time. When the user charges their dead tablet, they can look at the history of usage and find out that it was that new whiz bang extras program that consumed 80% of the last battery charge. Without adequate information, the user doesn't have any choice but to blame the Nokia tablet. But given memory usage, disk usage and battery usage information would help the user understand what might be going wrong. I think this could be combined with more automated testing of the extras packages for blatant violations but ultimately I think giving more insight as to what's happening on the tablet would be more useful and catch more problems. And the last angle that I can think of would be in the development tools. There are analysis tools available to show memory usage, etc. Maybe the extras repository can run some of them on uploads and provide the results back to the author? Or maybe require the author submit the results of running the analysis tools before upload? That's all that comes to mind at the moment. Frank On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:36 AM, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The discussion about the potentially buggy extras package is a good starting point to a discussion about how quality should be addressed in Fremantle extras. We have started this discussion many times but never got to conclusions. The fact is that the good work done by the community working on the extras content and infrastructure is convincing Maemo SW that the extras repository should be activated by default, being part of the offering Maemo 5 users will have since day 1. All this should result in much bigger number of downloads and real users enjoying those apps. But if then something goes wrong e.g. an applet draining a battery... The negative effect is also more visible in basd press, calls to Nokia Care, units returned and etc, since all what most users see is my Nokia Something worked before but now it doesn't. The extras process introduced in Diablo has been useful improving the quality assurance but 'packages that build' is not enough. What else could be done? There are some vague ideas listed at https://wiki.maemo.org/Extras_repository_process_definition#Quality_Assurance -- Quim Gil marketing manager, open source Maemo Software @ Nokia ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Diablo Extras .install files
Ah, the information I was looking for. I'll throw out what I was considering if it helps. 3) The user can upload the .install file on the garage page, but this would require the garage server to change it's mime-type for .install files. 4) The user can put the deb in the chinook repository and reuse that install file. 4 is a hack. 3 is actually decent. Frank On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 4:41 AM, Niels Breet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, We automatically generate .install files for Extras up until Chinook[1] and for Extras-Devel[2]. We currently don't generate those .install file for Diablo Extras because of the way the promotion interface works. Normally .install files are generated when a package gets processed in the incoming queue of Extras. The promotion interface skips this step and copies the files directly into the repository. It hasn't been determined yet where to implement the generation of .install in the new situation. There are some options: Option 1: Generation of .install files can be done in the promotion interface when promoting a package from Extras-devel to Extras. Option 2: Another option would be to modify the promotion interface to use the incoming queue for Diablo Extras. My preferred option would be option 2 as that would also help bring down the load on the machine which is caused by reindexing the repository. Which is needed because of the direct file copies. We would need to check what the technical difficulties are in this case. Suggestions on other options are welcome. If you want to help us out with the implementation, please see our extras-cauldron[3] garage page! -- Niels Breet maemo.org webmaster [1] http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/chinook/install/ [2] http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/dists/diablo/install/ [3] https://garage.maemo.org/projects/extras-cauldron ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: .install files
So I thought I would put a .install on the garage page but it seems that the garage web server is not configured to serve the .install files in a format that would allow for single click installs. I tried several different formats but couldn't get one to trigger an install. Frank On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Frank Banul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are .install files still created when using the autobuilder/extras promoter? They used to be (http://maemo.org/community/application-catalog/extras_repository.html) but the current doc does not mention them (http://extras-cauldron.garage.maemo.org/HOWTO.html). thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
.install files
Are .install files still created when using the autobuilder/extras promoter? They used to be (http://maemo.org/community/application-catalog/extras_repository.html) but the current doc does not mention them (http://extras-cauldron.garage.maemo.org/HOWTO.html). thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: where might this old version be coming from
Hi, File size changes. Timestamp on the file. But most importantly, whatever I caught during testing. A bug that I fixed, a change in program behavior, the package installs on the tablet or not. Whatever reason I started the process again is how I know which package I'm using. Frank On 10/2/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that's not a rhetorical question, yes it did make perfect sense (to me). My testing follows something like this. 1) Test on scratchbox until happy. 2) Copy the deb over to my tablet. Test again until happy. 3) Upload to the autobuilder, download from extras-devel BTW, how you understand which package you install if you don't increase the revision? AFAIK the time between package is built by autobuilder and when it's available from repo varies and hard to predict. Regards, -- Ed ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: where might this old version be coming from
No, I don't have to check all of those. I was only listing ways I could tell the difference without relying on the revision number. In thinking about this, really the only reason I like to use the autobuilder as a testing area is because it's possible (I've done it) to generate a deb from scratchbox that installs on the tablet perfectly, but the autobuilder generated deb would not install on the tablet. It was something with the post installation scripts. If that was not the case, I would feel confident in testing the deb directly without involving the autobuilder, thus avoiding the revision changing. Frank On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: File size changes. Timestamp on the file. But most importantly, whatever I caught during testing. A bug that I fixed, a change in program behavior, the package installs on the tablet or not. Whatever reason I started the process again is how I know which package I'm using. So, you have to check package size, timestamp and possibly behaviour to make sure you installed right version? Would it be better to just increase revision? Regards, --- Ed ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Community Maemo distribution
It may have been a problem for some people but the missing pdf files was not a problem for my tablet. Others have echoed this on ITT. Frank On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When a bunch of PDFs drop you into a reboot loop doing a minor system upgrade, it's not a hard one to win, either. ;) Are we sure that this was the main problem? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
where might this old version be coming from
Hi, I've been making changes to coverfinder, getting it though the autobuilder, and I finally think I have something I like for now. But, for some reason, when I install to my tablet, I get an older version than what appears to be in the deb. http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/diablo/free/c/coverfinder/coverfinder_0.1.1_armel.deb contains a binary, coverfinder of 27224 Oct 1 06:56. But when I do an apt-get install coverfinder from my tablet or just download the deb directly, I get a binary sized 27140 Sep 30 18:17. Any ideas what am I doing wrong? thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: where might this old version be coming from
Hi, I'm sorry. I thought extras-devel was a testing area of sorts. Upload something try it out, see how it goes. Then tweak and go through the process again. Then when I'm finally satisfied, promote to extras. But it seems that extras-devel has many of the same rules as extras. Oh well, I appreciate the information. thanks, Frank On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Niels Breet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, October 1, 2008 15:49, Frank Banul wrote: Hi, Hi, I've been making changes to coverfinder, getting it though the autobuilder, and I finally think I have something I like for now. But, for some reason, when I install to my tablet, I get an older version than what appears to be in the deb. http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/diablo/free/c/coverfinder/c overfinder_0.1.1_armel.deb contains a binary, coverfinder of 27224 Oct 1 06:56. But when I do an apt-get install coverfinder from my tablet or just download the deb directly, I get a binary sized 27140 Sep 30 18:17. Any ideas what am I doing wrong? This problem happens because you uploaded the same package with the exact same version number twice. You really should not do that. Each time a package ends up in the repository, you need to increase your revision number for the next upload. That your package ends up in the repository the second time is actually a bug: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3488 But that will be fixed soon. For now, please increase the version number like 0.1.1-2, 0.1.1-3 etc etc. thanks, Frank -- Niels Breet maemo.org webmaster ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: where might this old version be coming from
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry. I thought extras-devel was a testing area of sorts. Upload something try it out, see how it goes. Then tweak and go through the process again. You're right. We just have different definition of tweak :) From my point of view any code change has to reflect package revision if package uploaded to the repository. The reason of the problem you described is buggy repository management software. However, it doesn't mean that reuploading the same version of package is a good practice. That's why we're going to implement version check for packages uploaded to the build to avoid this. If you disagree, please speak up. I don't have any problem with it. I just need to understand and act accordingly. Then when I'm finally satisfied, promote to extras. But it seems that extras-devel has many of the same rules as extras. Oh well, I appreciate the information. Extras-devel is a testing area, and potentially testers and developers can install packages from there for testing, right? If developer would reupload package with the same version how people, who install this package from extras-devel would know which package they installed? How they can be sure that they installed fixed package, if fixed and broken packages would have the same version? Well I control that don't I? If I want to make sure users get the update, then I bump the revision. If I don't care, then I don't. I had the impression using extras-devel was risky anyway. Adding the risk of different code with the same revision doesn't bother me until it happens in the extras repository. All just my opinion. Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: where might this old version be coming from
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 1, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Frank Banul wrote: Then when I'm finally satisfied, promote to extras. But it seems that extras-devel has many of the same rules as extras. Oh well, I appreciate the information. Extras-devel is a testing area, and potentially testers and developers can install packages from there for testing, right? If developer would reupload package with the same version how people, who install this package from extras-devel would know which package they installed? How they can be sure that they installed fixed package, if fixed and broken packages would have the same version? Well I control that don't I? If I want to make sure users get the update, then I bump the revision. If I don't care, then I don't. I had the impression using extras-devel was risky anyway. Adding the risk of different code with the same revision doesn't bother me until it happens in the extras repository. All just my opinion. It's wise to follow proper packaging procedure even during testing phases. Two different packages with the exact same version doesn't make much sense, does it? :) If that's not a rhetorical question, yes it did make perfect sense (to me). My testing follows something like this. 1) Test on scratchbox until happy. 2) Copy the deb over to my tablet. Test again until happy. 3) Upload to the autobuilder, download from extras-devel on a 2nd tablet and test until happy. 4) Promote to extras. At this point, any changes (in my opinion) deserve a revision. In this specific case I got fed up with a gtk file chooser and switched to a hildon file chooser while in step 3. Is that worthy of a revision to something in a devel repository? I had not thought so. But no matter, I don't have a problem with it. Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
how long to get from autobuilder to extras-devel?
Hi, I got an email last night that my autobuilder upload completed successfully. I see the results in https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/coverfinder_0.1.1/. How long until extras-devel gets populated? http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/diablo/free/c/coverfinder/ thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: how long to get from autobuilder to extras-devel?
Perfect, thanks! Frank On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Niels Breet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, September 30, 2008 15:48, Frank Banul wrote: Hi, Hi, I got an email last night that my autobuilder upload completed successfully. I see the results in https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/coverfinder_0.1.1/. How long until extras-devel gets populated? http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/diablo/free/c/coverfinder/ In this case never. You are using an invalid category or section for your package: maemo/Applications Please see the Maemo Packaging Policy: https://maemo.org/forrest-images/pdf/maemo-policy.pdf I would suggest user/tools or something like that. The fact that it didn't end up in Extras is because you using a capital letter and the queue-manager bugs on that. But I would suggest you to fix your section, so your package complies to the policy. thanks, Frank -- Niels Breet maemo.org webmaster ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: vpn on the tablet vs Nokia intranet
Hi, I'm using vpnc version 0.5.1r334-1 and vpnc-gui 0.4.1 currently on the latest version of Diablo. Frank On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I spent some time trying to locate in the wiki nokia pages a vpn package that still runs on Diablo and can provide access to the intranet, but I only found a bunch of outdated and binary only stuff. Does anybody know of an up to date version? thank you -- Cheers, Igor --- Igor Stoppa Maemo Software - Nokia Devices RD - Helsinki ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Qemu Error on Maemo
FWIW, the below link has a reference to Usage Examples (http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/maemo_debugging_guide.html) which doesn't exist. Frank On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When testing the code on x86, I would recommend using Valgrind[2] to check for memory access errors and leaks in your code. [2] http://maemo.org/development/tools/doc/diablo/valgrind/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Testing application under targets arm and x86
Right, the flow is: compile x86, run x86, compile arm, hope it works on your device (in general it does). This is one option, there are others but I have not explored them. Frank On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 5:16 AM, Arvind1 K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have compiled my application under ARMEL target. When I execute it, i get errors like: Unsupported setsockopt level=1 optname=2 Unsupported setsockopt level=0 optname=35 Unsupported setsockopt level=1 optname=9 qemu:unsupported syscall:307 Gdk - shmget failed: error 38 qemu: uncaught targe5t signal 11 etc. I searched google and found that armel target is not to be used for testing but only for compilation purposes. When I tried to execute the armel compiled binary on x86, I got a message : /scratchbox/tools/bin/misc_runner: SBOX_CPUTRANSPARANCY_METHOD not set When I compile as well as run application on X86 target , it works fine. I'm new to it, so i'm not sure whether I'm doing things in correct manner. Any comments or help is more than welcome. Regards Arvind =-=-= Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. Thank you ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Porting a C program in Maemo
Can you start by defining what you want when you say stuff would be
shown on the Maemo (2.2) screen?
Do you want the text in a dialog box? As a text box? You saw it on the
terminal so it got somewhere.
Frank
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Queen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all!
/* I'm really REALLY new to this, and i just joined this mailing list,
so i can only hope i'm sending this help somebody mail to the right
address Don't bite if i did something stupid.. kthx */
So. Can somebody help me with the following:
Let's say i have the easiest C program, that just prints something 10 times:
// hail.c
#include stdio.h
int main()
{
int i;
for (i=1; i11; i++)
{
printf(%d. Hail to Kernighan and Ritchie \n, i);
}
return 0;
}
and i wanna port it to maemo, so that the printf stuff would be shown
on the Maemo (2.2) screen (installed in Ubuntu 7.10).
Do you have any hints, on how on earth is this possible? I've read the
whole tutorial (and a bunch of other tutorials on deploying and porting
applications), searched everything, tried my ass off, and nothing. All i
managed to do is to print hello on Maemo , while the Hail to
Kernighan and Ritchie was printed on the terminal (by adding and
configuring the above source to maemo_hello,c) ..
Any hint will be more than welcomed.
Thanx in advance!
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Re: GPS + Python + POI database + sqlite - small project , need your help
Hi, Is this source suitable? http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/chinook/free/source/m/maemo-mapper/maemo-mapper_2.4.1-os2008.tar.gz Frank On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Darius Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, just completed 2 projecvts, in Semantic Multimedia and Geolocation. Now need your help and advice in pursuing GPS + Python + POI + sqlite - non-GUI project. Now I need to learn how to read GPS data from gpsd Python ?) process them and save into db as a track, build POI database and more Maemo-mapper already does all the above, unfortunately it is one-man closed project, assissted by Cezary (POI database). Please tell me know to start. - GPS data acquisition data logging as xml file (parser) Than I need to build a basic database logging gps data + some instrument data like sound level, temperature, sun intensity level and more to make Google Maps. Your comments, advise, help is welcome. Darius Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Application in Extras-Devel OK? Promote it!
Definitely don't skip the below steps. The autobuilder does not test installation of the package. The package can fail to install and the autobuilder won't detect it as it only tests building. If this happens and you've promoted the package, you're stuck at the moment unless you change the software version. Frank On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Ed Bartosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 16:33 +0200, ext Niels Breet wrote: 3. If packages build successfully and appear in extras-devel - Install them on tablets and test. 4. If any bugs found - fix them and goto 1. 5. If no bugs found during testing and developer thinks that packages are ready for enduser usage - promote them to extras. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Promoter interface for Diablo extras-devel
So how does one get authorized to use the diablo promoter? Error: You are not authorized to use the system I've got the prerequisites listed at http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_extras. thanks, Frank On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Andrew Flegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Andrew Flegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] The diablo promoter interface is at: http://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/ That should've been: https://garage.maemo.org/promoter/diablo Sorry for the inconvenience, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: (update2) Is array implemented in bash ...?
It looks like you have a DOS style file with carriage return/line feeds at the end where bash is only expecting line feeds. Run dos2unix on array1.sh Frank On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Darius Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. Open terminal bash enter bash-3.2$ file starts with #!/bin/bash array1.sh (bash: array1.sh: command not found ./array1.sh (bash: ./array1.sh: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or direy bash ./array1.sh runs shell script under ash interpreting array operations as command not found Should I really remove ash ? _ followed an advice from InternetTabletTalk http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14613 by ag2 ag2 is offline Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 163 Thanks: 7 Thanked 96 Times in 32 Posts Default [Announce] bash as the default shell Tired of the built-in busybox shell? I've made a package of bash 3.2. Unlike other instances of bash floating around, this one is compatible with busybox and can be used as the default shell without sending your tablet into an infinite reboot cycle. To make bash the default, edit /etc/passwd and replace /bin/sh with /bin/bash for users 'user' and 'root' and tablet was exactly sent into an inifinite reboot cykle ;( Darius --- On Fri, 27/6/08, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (update2) Is array implemented in bash ...? To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Date: Friday, 27 June, 2008, 9:09 PM On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 07:06:32PM +, Darius Jack wrote: update2 (I do hope you don't get it htmlized, as Rich Text is disabled) Installed bash, run bash in busybox I'm not sure I understand what you mean run bash in busybox. Did you mean scratchbox? code works fine from terminal unfortunately trying to run shell file, file.sh How exactly are you running it? $ ./file.sh should work if file starts with #!/bin/bash $ bash file.sh should work always, and $ sh file.sh will use ash to run file.sh. it is still run by ash shell (not removed yet, as some claimed it may crash a system) so arrays don't work #!/bin/bash doesn't work Could you be more specific? Do you get a No such file error, or do you get errors you usually see when file.sh is executed by ash? Marius Gedminas -- Cool. Does it also recode ISO10646-1 pcf files into the funny permutations and subsets used a long time ago in a galaxy far far away on the planets Isolatinus XV and Koiruski VIII ... -- Markus Kuhn inquires about libXft___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Diablo extras repository proposal
I would be interested in the answer to this as well. thanks, Frank On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Glen Ditchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now when I look at the Rebuild Log page, I see that I should be able to promote the package that the Autobuilder built. When I follow the link, I am told that I am not authorized to use the system. Next, I will look through the archives and the web sites to find out how to get authorization. That, and composing this letter, will likely use up the evening. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Diablo extras repository proposal
Hi, Just a couple of thoughts. - It took me more than an hour to fix my package because I haven't done this before, ever. Each new process is a learning curve for me. I'm not complaining but I have to believe others are in positions similar to mine. - There was no deadline or goal date in the original announcement. People always procrastinate. - Even the packages that do build aren't available (or weren't yesterday) for the OS release. In my opinion, that's the wrong order. Get the extras available then release the OS. Otherwise people are faced with empty repositories or have to use chinook repositories. Frank On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 6:12 AM, Ed Bartosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 10:28 +0100, ext Graham Cobb wrote: On Wednesday 25 June 2008 09:43:31 Ed Bartosh wrote: Now we have the same situation with rebuild. Niels is asking developers to fix their packages, but I don't see much progress with this either. We have only 10% more buildable packages for more than week of this action. A week is a long time for someone funded to work on this full time. It is nothing at all for people working on this in their spare time! My opinion that tt's about 2 men days work to fix all build failures. Niels can tell how many people uploaded packages to extras. And you can see how many of them actually care to fix build failures. If each of them would spend 1(one) hour during last week we would already have almost all packages fixed. In my case, a big problem is dependencies which were previously uploaded into Extras without sources. It would really help if you were to consider taking those packages which do not have sources and just copying the chinook package into diablo. Or, at least, considering it as an exception process for specific packages! Can I see the list? Did you ask community members to help you with this? I realise that we all want to fix Extras so it is fully buildable for source. The problem is timing. Personally, I am very busy at the moment and am finding it hard to get time to research, port, build and upload packages which I have never touched but which are dependencies of my packages. A week is nothing like enough -- at this rate it will be more like a month! I understand that some of the people can be busy, but not all of them. And it's not your fault that packages were uploaded without sources and now people don't want to fix them. You're one of 4-5 active community members, who actually participate in the process. If I had the dependencies I need, I am sure the GPE packages would build correctly straight away (they already do for chinook extras-devel). And if there were problems I could fix them quickly. So, I don't disagree with the goal of requiring everything to build from scratch but it is going to hold up availability of my packages unless someone can help with the dependency problem. Anyone funded by Nokia who can spend a bit of time on making some standard Debian packages available? I tend to disagree with this. I think this task should be done by uploaders, or they can say that they don't care about their uploads to extras and someone else will do this. I could easily do this work in my spare time, but I didn't do it just because I want to see community working. I want to see that people are interested in this, not only Nokia. Regards, --- Ed ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Rebuild all chinook source packages on autobuilder
So if your package is failing due to missing dependencies, how does one map the package check to Build-Depends? I'm sure this is a basic question, I've googled but not found a definitive answer. The links referenced in this thread are very general. For example PKG_CHECK_MODULES(GTK, gtk+-2.0) needs libgtk2.0-dev PKG_CHECK_MODULES(CONIC, conic) needs libconic0-dev What establishes the mapping? Specifically, I'm missing the Build-Depends for hildon-help. thanks, Frank On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Niels Breet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Currently Ed Bartosh and I are working on taking all source packages from the extras repository and try to build them on the autobuilder. The goal of this chinook rebuild effort is to get a set of packages buildable 'from scratch'. Once we are able to build all(most?) packages on chinook, we can try to automatically build them for diablo. So we can have a lot of packages in the diablo repository at release of diablo. There is a web page[1] up with the first run, which was done over the weekend. All packages are listed in build order, based on dependencies, with their build results for i386 and armel. If a package build failed, a link to the build log is provided. If you provide a source package in extras, please check if your package is building OK. If you only provide binary packages in extras, we would like to encourage you to provide source packages too! We could really use some help from the community in pushing towards 100% OK build of every package in extras. When you have updated your package to fix the issues, please use the 'request rebuild' option on the packages list. This gives us the opportunity to track changes as a result of the list. We will rebuild packages on a regular interval and post a summary to this list. Let's see if we can get all packages to build! -- Niels Breet maemo.org webmaster [1] https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant/maemo_extras_chinook_rebuild.php PS: Please note that due to a build failure in python-2.5, all packages that depend on python fail. So after this failure is fixed, a lot more packages will build OK. I will contact the indt guys to get this sorted. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Rebuild all chinook source packages on autobuilder
Hi, Thanks for the response, it does help. I failed to mention that I found the .pc files but then didn't get the link back to the package. So if I'm understanding you, find the .pc file, do a dpkg -S on that pc file, take the name of the package, add a '-dev' to the end of it and put that in the Build-Depends line? I'm not near my scratchbox to try this but I will this evening. Frank On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Tim Teulings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo! So if your package is failing due to missing dependencies, how does one map the package check to Build-Depends? I'm sure this is a basic question, I've googled but not found a definitive answer. The links referenced in this thread are very general. For example PKG_CHECK_MODULES(GTK, gtk+-2.0) needs libgtk2.0-dev PKG_CHECK_MODULES(CONIC, conic) needs libconic0-dev What establishes the mapping? Specifically, I'm missing the Build-Depends for hildon-help. I do not understand the question completely but perhaps my answer helps you anyway. If your application configure script requires some external dependency like in your example gtk+-2.0, this dependency is fullfill fromt eh view of your application by finding the corresponding *.pc file as defined by pkg-config. This *.pc file is normally part of some *-dev package which in turn means that your configure scripts expects that this *-dev package is available (and properly installed and configured). So to make that package viewable for configure script at build time you must mention the exact package that own and contains this *.pc file (AFAIK dpkg- S is your friend here) in your build-dependencies because the build dependencies names the packages that should be installed before your package is build. The autobuilder starts with a clean envrionment and will only install the packages you name. The *.pc file in turn contains the information what additinal include paths and libraries you need to build against the given package. It is a ASCII file. Just take a look. PKG_CHECK_MODULES is of course only one way to detect if a library is available. There are others - however the all expect the corresponding *-dev package to be installed. Does this help you? Any aditional questions? -- Gruß... Tim ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Rebuild all chinook source packages on autobuilder
Now that looks promising. Thank you! Frank On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Alberto Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:33:43AM -0500, Frank Banul wrote: So if your package is failing due to missing dependencies, how does one map the package check to Build-Depends? If I understood your question correctly, dpkg-genbuilddeps might help -- Alberto García González http://people.igalia.com/berto/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Rebuild all chinook source packages on autobuilder
That looks like it would work if only scratchbox perl had Set.pm. I fought with that for a bit and finally gave up. thanks, Frank On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Alberto Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:33:43AM -0500, Frank Banul wrote: So if your package is failing due to missing dependencies, how does one map the package check to Build-Depends? If I understood your question correctly, dpkg-genbuilddeps might help -- Alberto García González http://people.igalia.com/berto/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Rebuild all chinook source packages on autobuilder
But this worked perfectly! Thanks so much for the guidance. Frank On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Tim Teulings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I failed to mention that I found the .pc files but then didn't get the link back to the package. So if I'm understanding you, find the .pc file, do a dpkg -S on that pc file, take the name of the package, add a '-dev' to the end of it The *.pc can normally be found under /usr/lib/pkgconfig, so... dpkg -S /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gtk+-2.0.pc libgtk2.0-dev: /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gtk+-2.0.pc and put that in the Build-Depends line? I'm not near my scratchbox to try this but I will this evening. The *.pc files are part of the content of a *-.dev package. -- Gruß... Tim ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
key_id
Hi, I'm trying to follow the directions at http://maemo.org/community/application-catalog/extras_repository.html. Step 6 lists: debsign -kkey_id i386.changes debsign -kkey_id armel.changes What key is this? The public key that corresponds to the private key in the following step? The PGP key? Is there a page that details the ssh and pgp key requirements? thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: formatting flash
the file manager can format. frank On 3/28/08, Kwan Hong Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, we have an n810 and wanted to format /media/mmc2. Does anybody know an easy way to do this? Thank you! -kwan -- http://www.media.mit.edu/~kwan/info.html ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] I'd like to help improve boot times...
Hi, No offence but I would guess most people don't boot their devices very often. It would be nice to have faster boot times but I rarely boot my device. Just an opinion. I hope it's helpful. Frank - Original message - Hi there, I'm Magnus Deininger, aka jyujin, head of the eINIT project, a~nd I'd like help the maemo project by improving bootup times. One of my friends is telling me that maemo devices are booting 'unbearably slow' and that this would be quite the complaint with customers; he's going so far as to offer his Nokia 770 for the cause if i can make it boot faster. My pet project (eINIT, http://einit.org) is currently doing reasonably well at making computers boot faster, but we haven't tried to make it work on too many embedded devices just yet, mostly because we're a bit tight on devs and time... and people that would be interested in seeing it on their embedded device. We're still doing quite the progress in boot times tho, as could be seen by this little video (taken by that friend of mine who'd like to see his nokia 770 boot faster): http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2744120711983143659 . That's booting fairly fast, especially considering it boots right into compiz... I also made this bootchart: http://omploader.org/vZHdj -- which is on my main desktop, without any real optimisations. Both boxes (the one in the video, and mine) used to boot in about 1 to 1:20 minutes before, so that's /quite/ an improvement right there. Now seeing as my friend has some issues with his device, I'd like to help him, and the maemo project, but since I'm a bit tight on time, I'd first like to know if anyone else is actually interested in me porting eINIT to maemo, since I'd hate setting up a devel environment for a single device ;). Which brings me to why I'm posting on this ML in the first place: I'd like to know if people /are/ interested in this or not. Just get right back at me if there's any interest. I'll monitor this ML for the time being, and I'd also like to invite any interested developers to join our IRC channel, #einit on freenode. So, that concludes my offer I think. Greets, and happy hacking, Magnus Deininger http://einit.org/ IRC: jyujin on freenode; #einit PS.: Oh, not to forget, eINIT is BSD-licenced, so there shouldn't be any weird licencing issues from a business POV either, if that would ever be an issue. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
project page got moved from os2008 to os2007
Hi, I was trying to add some updated screen shots to my project (tabletsb) and somehow managed to move the OS2008 project to OS2007. Now there are two OS2007 pages for TabletBridge and none for OS2008. I went as far as trying to re-create the OS2008 page and that seemed to work but when I went back, it was gone. When I try the Move menu entry, the maemo site gives me an error. What do I need to do to fix this? thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: WLAN Horrible Roaming Performance (N800, OS2008), Software or Hardware Problem ?
I'm a home user with two access points. I've noticed that the N810 holds on to the connection with the established AP far longer than the 770 seemed to. I expect to never see low strength signals as the two APs cover my home nicely. But I have not noticed any problems associated with this apparent change in behavior. It's also entirely possible that since I never manually disconnected the 770, rather I put the cover on, that I would not have noticed low signal strength even if it did exist. Frank On Feb 4, 2008 1:37 PM, Kalle Valo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would nice to get real statistics about this, but my guess is that most of the people don't need roaming (think home users). Or if they need it, they need very rarely. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Contribution code, ...
Hi All, I called letstalk.com to ask when the web site might be ready. The person assisting me could not provide and answer but instead offered to place my order at the correct discounted price. I tried it and it worked like this. Place the order at full price. In a few hours a supervisor will override the price. This worked out and now I have my N810. Thanks to all responsible. Now if you will excuse me, I have an application to port. :) Frank On Jan 16, 2008 12:00 PM, Scott Bambrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just placed my order on the Canadian site as well. Thanks Quim and Nokia. Scott Mike Morrison wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 10:03 PM, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext Michael Wiktowy wrote: Since Canada was not on the initial list of countries to get the N810 from, is there something that needs to be done by the code recipient to switch the code over from the US to Canada or should the US code work once the Canadian site is updated? Since Canada joined late with the best of the intentions, they will deal with the cases one by one no matter what country your code belongs to (as far as you have a real code and you provide a Canadian delivery address). Quim I just placed my order with the Canadian site, discount code and all (it came to $175 with shipping taxes)! Thank you Quim and Nokia! Mike ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Contribution code, ...
US Store. I told them the discount code was 99 euros, or $145. I spoke with Chris, I never found out the supervisor's name. Frank On Jan 21, 2008 12:42 PM, John Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank, On 1/21/08, Frank Banul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I called letstalk.com to ask when the web site might be ready. The person assisting me could not provide and answer but instead offered to place my order at the correct discounted price. I tried it and it worked like this. Place the order at full price. In a few hours a supervisor will override the price. This worked out and now I have my N810. Thanks for working this out. I assume this is the US store? I tried calling them and they wanted to know how much my discount should be (which was _really_ odd, I could have said the device was free), I told them I did not know what the discount balance was supposed to be. So they offered 75 dollars off, which I thought was too low in light of our European friends picking them up for 99 euro. They said they could do no better, so I gave up. How much did you tell them it should be and who did you talk to? I would like to talk to the same supervisor so the transactions is easy. Thanks to all responsible. Now if you will excuse me, I have an application to port. :) Frank On Jan 16, 2008 12:00 PM, Scott Bambrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just placed my order on the Canadian site as well. Thanks Quim and Nokia. Scott Mike Morrison wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 10:03 PM, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext Michael Wiktowy wrote: Since Canada was not on the initial list of countries to get the N810 from, is there something that needs to be done by the code recipient to switch the code over from the US to Canada or should the US code work once the Canadian site is updated? Since Canada joined late with the best of the intentions, they will deal with the cases one by one no matter what country your code belongs to (as far as you have a real code and you provide a Canadian delivery address). Quim I just placed my order with the Canadian site, discount code and all (it came to $175 with shipping taxes)! Thank you Quim and Nokia! Mike ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Fwd: Regarding Development enviornment for N800
sorry forgot to copy the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Frank Banul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jan 19, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Regarding Development enviornment for N800 To: nisha jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, as far as I know, there is no XP environment, you can run a Linux virtual machine though. Frank On Jan 19, 2008 11:26 AM, nisha jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I need urgent help. I have following requirements for a project. DSP signal processing on a predefined data set. and Display of same on N800 series. I am looking for development enviornmet for N800 which fullfills following needs 1) Provide java programming ability. 2) Runs on windows XP. Also I am looking for step by step procedure to set up such enviornment. I have searched all Maemo site but i am not able to find such enviornment and exact procedure to set up it.. Please let me know if any one is working on similar requirements and information to set up the same. Regards, Nisha ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Regarding Development enviornment for N800
It supports c/c++. For making a GUI you can use gtk/gdk apis. Or you could use python and skip the development environment completely. I see 3 links, one torrent for which you need a bit torrent client and two direct links which should work from your browser but might take a while since they are very large. http://www.maemo.org.br/platform/download/maemo-sdk-vmware_0.4/maemo-sdk-vmware_0.4.7z.001 http://www.maemo.org.br/platform/download/maemo-sdk-vmware_0.4/maemo-sdk-vmware_0.4.7z.002 I'm not sure what to use to combine those files though. I downloaded a torrent (an older release not this particular one). Frank On Jan 19, 2008 11:57 AM, nisha jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Frank, I have this link and I have gone through it but couldn't understand which language has to be used for making GUI or inbuild components like in Visual Basic also I am not able to follow install instructions. Have u installed it? Can u tell me exact procedure to intall and test? I am not able to find SDK VM for download (it is written check side bar) In side bar i am not able to see any link to download it... Regards, Nisha On 1/19/08, Frank Banul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Nisha, See http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/ I don't think you can do Java on the tablets yet. Frank On Jan 19, 2008 11:43 AM, nisha jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Frank, Thanks for info.. Yeah, but can u please provide the procedure to do so? From where i can download linux virtual machine and java development tools for N800 application development? Regards, Nisha On 1/19/08, Frank Banul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, as far as I know, there is no XP environment, you can run a Linux virtual machine though. Frank On Jan 19, 2008 11:26 AM, nisha jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I need urgent help. I have following requirements for a project. DSP signal processing on a predefined data set. and Display of same on N800 series. I am looking for development enviornmet for N800 which fullfills following needs 1) Provide java programming ability. 2) Runs on windows XP. Also I am looking for step by step procedure to set up such enviornment. I have searched all Maemo site but i am not able to find such enviornment and exact procedure to set up it.. Please let me know if any one is working on similar requirements and information to set up the same. Regards, Nisha ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Regarding Development enviornment for N800
Hi Nisha, See http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/ I don't think you can do Java on the tablets yet. Frank On Jan 19, 2008 11:43 AM, nisha jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Frank, Thanks for info.. Yeah, but can u please provide the procedure to do so? From where i can download linux virtual machine and java development tools for N800 application development? Regards, Nisha On 1/19/08, Frank Banul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, as far as I know, there is no XP environment, you can run a Linux virtual machine though. Frank On Jan 19, 2008 11:26 AM, nisha jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I need urgent help. I have following requirements for a project. DSP signal processing on a predefined data set. and Display of same on N800 series. I am looking for development enviornmet for N800 which fullfills following needs 1) Provide java programming ability. 2) Runs on windows XP. Also I am looking for step by step procedure to set up such enviornment. I have searched all Maemo site but i am not able to find such enviornment and exact procedure to set up it.. Please let me know if any one is working on similar requirements and information to set up the same. Regards, Nisha ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: developer program discount code does not work
I dunno, I asked if the source to mnotify was available and got ignored. ;) Frank On Jan 12, 2008 9:23 AM, vicente garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't understand the development list only has messages about the discount coupon I think this fact is so interesting about the subjects that we talk about in the list. On Jan 12, 2008 4:01 PM, Fernando San Martín Woerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, i got the same problem than here http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/32707?page=last I got a new email but i have the same code, i when i try to buy the n810 at the US shop I get and Invalid Coupon message. Unfortunatelly the email came from a noreply account, who can help me with this? Regards -- Fernando ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
mnotify source
Is mnotify source available somewhere that I'm missing? I would like something like that on OS2006. thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N810 Maemo Program/USA Store
I would guess that the code expiration dates would be extended in the case that stock was not available. What's troubling to me is that the USA is not mentioned at all in the message. No further details, no mention what so ever. What is the reasoning behind that? I would assume that the Maemo team could decide whether to mention the USA status even if they can't control stock or getting discount codes working in a particular store. Frank On Jan 8, 2008 9:58 AM, Alfredo J. Fabretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 8, 2008 1:50 PM, Owen Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but nokia has now sent out an email threatening that if I don't use my code by a specific date, it will expire. It's as if they're threatening to take it out on me because they couldn't get their act together, or because I don't click refresh on the shop often enough to catch it when it comes in stock. Nokia should either guarantee stock in shops by a certain date, or push the expiration date of the code by at least a few months. Indeed. If the device is out of stock and the discount codes are valid until the end of february I'm wondering if we'll have enough time to get the device... I don't understand why our discount codes have expiration date if it's a developer program to contribute to the platform... ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: SDL App runs for some seconds and then dies
Take a look at http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/maemo_2_2_tutorial.html, specifically: Maemo initialisation All maemo applications must be initialised correctly to ensure that they work as expected. One symptom of missing initialisation is that the application starts from the task navigator but closes automatically after a few seconds. Does that fix it? Frank On Nov 13, 2007 6:13 PM, Daniel Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks, I have the following issue compiling my game for Maemo 2.2 (I know, its old stuff): After installing my game (http://angstron.garage.maemo.org) from the .deb, and tapping the game icon on the menu, my game runs...and then dies after some (~ 10) seconds. When running from x-terminal or the system-monitor applet, it runs flawless for any time I want. Where am I screwing it? (code @ http://bzk.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzk/ ) It cant be on the application itself , as I spent the last two months scrutinizing my code. Got lots of bugs out of it, but didnt solved this issue. This is the *last* issue to solve, and then we can ship it =-P How can you guys help me? Thanks! Daniel NeoStrider Monteiro |_|0|_| Linux Registered User #424188 |_|_|0| http://corporatedrones.wordpress.com |0|0|0| http://nomadsoul.wordpress.com Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail, o único sem limite de espaço para armazenamento! ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Data corruption on N770 in OS2007 HE
I installed the patched binary file on Wed and since have not had a single crash from the browser, media player or claws-mail. Coincidence? I hope not. It was pretty rare to make it through a day without a browser crash previous. Frank On Nov 7, 2007 3:57 AM, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex DAMIAN wrote: Does anyone else experience these issues ? Ahything random can happen with wi-fi connected 770 due to this https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2006 It doesn't matter which system (2006 or 200HE) you use. BTW this problem can be caused by any other bug too, but since ^@ looks like interpretation of zero, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ may be really caused by this bug since it overwrites random memory with two zeroes. Congratulations, looks like you have won a lottery :-) Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: General Maemo/Scratchbox/N800 help
Hi David, Go here: http://maemo.org/downloads/product/osso-xterm-advanced Click on the install link, there are versions for the 770 and 800. Frank On 8/26/07, David Hazel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Frank, Thanks for your answers. There's one that I'll need further help with, however: I put the executable on the memory card, copy it to my home directory and run it. You'll need xterm on the 800 to do this. Question 1: How do I get a version of xterm that will run on the N800? Question 2: How do I install it to the N800? I'll need fairly detailed instructions for each of the above, I'm afraid. I did try to download what purported to be an Openssh client for the N800 yesterday, but all I got was a file called openssh-client.install, and no clues as to what I was supposed to do with it. I did once try putting my executable onto a memory card. However, I wasn't able to run it even though I thought I had built it for the right target (which is ARMEL, I assume?) and the version I built for X86 runs (almost) fine on Scratchbox. (I say almost because the emulator doesn't appear to be all that close an emulation of the target environment. It apparently can't simulate the presence of memory cards or give me an internet connection, both of which are central to what my application is trying to do.) David Hazel -Original Message- From: Frank Banul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 August 2007 19:40 To: David Hazel Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: General Maemo/Scratchbox/N800 help Hi David, I started working with the 770 a month or so ago so I don't have all the answers but I'll give a few below a shot. On 8/25/07, David Hazel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - interacting with the N800 device itself from my Linux PC I didn't find the need to do this. Using scratchbox to develop was enough. So far, only one problem has appeared on the tablet and not in scratchbox. - understanding 'flasher' (in particular, what the RD mode and host mode actually do and how to make use of them) I didn't find a need for these at all, I still don't have root on my 770. - transferring files etc. to the N800, for example to test software I put the executable on the memory card, copy it to my home directory and run it. You'll need xterm on the 800 to do this. - knowing what commands are available in Scratchbox to help me with the development, deployment and testing of software Here is my cheat sheet. How to build: ./autogen.sh automake ./configure dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b How to run outside of scratchbox: /scratchbox/start-xephyr.sh To start scratchbox: /scratchbox/login inside of scratchbox: export DISPLAY=:2 af-sb-init.sh start run-standalone.sh application To change targets: sb-menu To install in emulator: fakeroot dpkg -i maemo-soundbridge_0.1_i386.deb Hope this helps. Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: General Maemo/Scratchbox/N800 help
Hi David, I started working with the 770 a month or so ago so I don't have all the answers but I'll give a few below a shot. On 8/25/07, David Hazel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - interacting with the N800 device itself from my Linux PC I didn't find the need to do this. Using scratchbox to develop was enough. So far, only one problem has appeared on the tablet and not in scratchbox. - understanding 'flasher' (in particular, what the RD mode and host mode actually do and how to make use of them) I didn't find a need for these at all, I still don't have root on my 770. - transferring files etc. to the N800, for example to test software I put the executable on the memory card, copy it to my home directory and run it. You'll need xterm on the 800 to do this. - knowing what commands are available in Scratchbox to help me with the development, deployment and testing of software Here is my cheat sheet. How to build: ./autogen.sh automake ./configure dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b How to run outside of scratchbox: /scratchbox/start-xephyr.sh To start scratchbox: /scratchbox/login inside of scratchbox: export DISPLAY=:2 af-sb-init.sh start run-standalone.sh application To change targets: sb-menu To install in emulator: fakeroot dpkg -i maemo-soundbridge_0.1_i386.deb Hope this helps. Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Automatic connection
Hi,
I am trying to get my application to do automatic network connection
as detailed in the section on the 2.2 tutorial
(http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_2.2_Tutorial.html).
My startup script is:
#!/bin/sh
case `uname -m` in
arm*) source /usr/bin/connectivity_preload.sh;; # armel
*) ;;# some other architecture
esac
/usr/bin/maemo-soundbridge
I also tried running from xterm:
source /usr/bin/connectivity_preload.sh
./maemo-soundbridge
In either case, my call to connect returns -1.
dest_addr.sin_family = AF_INET; // host byte order
dest_addr.sin_port = htons(DEST_PORT); // short, network byte order
dest_addr.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr(ip_addr);
memset(dest_addr.sin_zero, '\0', sizeof dest_addr.sin_zero);
if (connect(sockfd, (struct sockaddr *)dest_addr, sizeof
dest_addr) == -1) {
hildon_banner_show_information(GTK_WIDGET(window), NULL,
connect_to_soundbridge: Unable to connect);
return FALSE;
}
Am I doing something wrong? Is there another requirement that I am missing?
In the case that I start the Wifi connection, then the connect
succeeds and I can communicate with my target.
thanks,
Frank
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ARMEL XML::Parser
Hi, I've got a first pass at my application built for Maemo 2.2. Under SDK_PC, I can build a .deb file. Under SDK_ARMEL, the process fails during configure with: checking for intltool = 0.23... 0.33 found checking for perl... /scratchbox/tools/bin/perl checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool I've downloaded XML::Parser and tried to install it manually but that fails as well with a permissions error. I've tried downloading from within perl but the scratchbox environment doesn't appear to have ftp and other tools. So, how can I get XML::Parser for ARMEL installed or avoid the use of it? thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Maemo 2.2 Tutorial
Hi All, I'm trying to go through the Maemo 2.2 Tutorial at: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_2.2_Tutorial.html#settingup I've got scratchbox, the rootstrap and Xephyr installed and I'm currently stuck trying to run the command af-sb-init.sh start. Where does this file come from? I have a feeling it's included in the Nokia binaries but I can't find the 2.2 Nokia binaries, well actually I might have found them but I can't find installation instructions for them. Those instructions appear to be broke as well, http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/2-x/howto_nokia_binaries.html I've looked over the past few months of the mailing list archive and didn't find anything. Is there a search engine for the mailing list archives? I want the 2.2 SDK for 770 development. I would like to make a Roku Soundbridge remote control. Roku allows the screen to be scraped via telnet so I can display the bitmap back on the tablet. You can also send remote commands via telnet, so I can make a wifi remote with the tablet. thanks, Frank ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo 2.2 Tutorial
Thanks everyone, I've got af-sb-init.sh now. The rootstrap referenced by http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_2.2_Tutorial.html (http://repository.maemo.org/stable/2.2/i386-minimal/Maemo_Dev_Platform_v2.2_i386-minimal-rootstrap.tgz) apparently does not contain af-sb-init.sh but http://repository.maemo.org/stable/gregale/i386/Maemo_Dev_Platform_v2.2_i386-rootstrap.tgz does contain af-sb-init.sh. Frank On 7/24/07, Kalle Vahlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/7/24, Frank Banul [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All, I'm trying to go through the Maemo 2.2 Tutorial at: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_2.2_Tutorial.html#settingup I've got scratchbox, the rootstrap and Xephyr installed and I'm currently stuck trying to run the command af-sb-init.sh start. Where does this file come from? It comes from the debian package osso-af-init (or something like that) but it should be included in the Maemo rootstraps. Maybe you missed the step 7, extracting the rootstrap? Or maybe you are looking for it outside scratchbox instead of inside? -- Kalle Vahlman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by http://movial.fi Interesting stuff at http://syslog.movial.fi ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
