Re: CSSU: optification of /var/lib/dpkg and /var/lib/apt
On Tuesday 05 April 2011, Ville M. Vainio wrote: Possibly this has been discussed before, but - Would it make sense to optify the mentioned directories in CSSU? Altogether both dirs take 64megs of space for me. /var/lib/apt is already optimized on my N900. Maybe it's only optified after a reflash and never got optimized through SSU routes? I wonder if de-optifying it will make HAM stop Checking for updates after every single tap in the interface... ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: CSSU: optification of /var/lib/dpkg and /var/lib/apt
On Tuesday 05 April 2011, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Jan Knutar jknu...@nic.fi wrote: I wonder if de-optifying it will make HAM stop Checking for updates after every single tap in the interface... I filed a bug about that, https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11463 In my case I found a possible reason: I had changed the update interval to a really huge number. I changed it to a lesser number and then App Manager stopped checking after every single action. Of course it is still slow as hell and apt-worker is using 100% for several minutes, but that's normal. I use fapman anyway for everything except for PR updates. In my case the update interval is at the default of 1440, and it still does Checking for updates for everything, even when I don't do any installing or uninstalling. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N8xx series and wireless
does anyone know if the N8xx series tablets can work with wireless dongles to offer broadband connectivity? Easiest is probably using a cellphone through bluetooth. Then a mifi router is also easy. Difficult: usb dongles The N8xx can't provide sufficient power for 3g dongles, so you'd need a powered usb hub. The OS isn't setup to handle it automatically either, and the kernel modules for usbserial would need to be compiled. The kernel is quite old, so the drivers are probably a bit suboptimal at this point. You'd probably create a pppd script to initiate the connection from x-terminal. So yeah, a mifi-like router (basically a battery powered 3g dongle with wifi to share the internet) is easiest solution, or a phone capable of running Joikuspot, which is a software shares a phone's 3g internet over the phone's wifi, would be easiest. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Too much tinkering with the device?
I wonder if we can try and debug it ? I have never experienced this in S60 for reference and I don't think this should go un noticed if it is a bug. I get it on nearly all Nokia devices I have, with the exception of N8x0. On 6230 it's quite extreme. It seems to switch on speaker with amp at full, putting out gsm dit-dit-dat loud enough to be heard across a room, then a second later it gets replaced by the ringtone. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: suspendprocess - poor man's power save
On Sunday 19 September 2010, Andrew Flegg wrote: On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 17:58, Robin Burchell virot...@viroteck.net wrote: Anyway: this was pretty much in keeping with my idea: move it into the task switcher (hildon-desktop/other) so that applications which are moved to background are stopped (unless they signal for whatever reason that they need to be kept running, but I'm not even sure that is necessary: if you really need to do background processing constantly, why do it in a GUI application?) I suggested something similar three years ago (wow, Maemo's old ;-)) and the reaction was less favourable: I tried doing something similar on Maemo 4, except my objective was to SIGSTOP processes for 5-30 seconds at a time during heavy swap load so that the tablet didn't blink into the blue Nokia logo and lose all unsaved work. Oddly what I discovered was that even with an unloaded system, stopping apps usually hung the entire thing, and upon sending SIGCONT, I was greeted by the $APP is not responding blah blah, quickly followed by the now responding message.. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Quality assurance of stable software: my battery drained in few hours
Doesn't the userland carry some sort of process monitoring, killing malignant processes ? If not, we should develop something like this for MeeGo. It's pretty hard to find out what's eating the battery on N900. First you have decide that the battery is being consumed too fast. The default charge meter occasionally realizes it's very wrong, and rapidly readjusts itself, giving potential misreadings there. bq27200 certainly helps there, though there's no production quality software available to use it yet. Nokia Energy Profiler still shines with its absence ;) After that, running powertop (oh, oops, removed from the firmware images early on) is nice for finding processes that consume too much CPU /in idle/. Normal top can only find processes that just eat too much CPU alltogether. If 3G internet connection is active, then it's a good idea to monitor it for traffic. If there's traffic moving occasionally (one packet every 5-10 seconds seems to be enough to keep the power usage high enough to die in 6 hours), tcpdump can help find out what kind of traffic is moving and to where. Finding out what app is responsible almost needs lsof or similar. Then the driver bugs, wlan can often wedge itself into consuming enormous amounts of power, /especially/ when it's /not/ used/active. 'ifconfig wlan0 down' often helps with the runaway wlan issue. Personally the most common causes for runaway power consumption is when someone tries to bruteforce my ssh password on the phone (which excercises the internet connection and also the cpu heavily), and the wlan bug. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: UK Maemo firmware location = Rapidshare??!
On Wednesday 24 February 2010, Tim Dobson wrote: Hey there, Does anyone know why the current N900 UK firmware is only available on rapidshare? http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_UK_variant_firmware I installed stuff from extras-devel and thus my n900 wants me to flash it - I'd be happy to do so, however downloading the firmware has proved somewhat of a challenge. If you're going to flash, why not flash the global firmware? Or will Bad Things(TM) happen from that? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: MeeGo
On Thursday 18 February 2010, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: basically 3 messages: 1) Maemo is no more. Even if it may survive for a last release. 2) The Maemo resulting work is now controlled officially by the Linux Fundation, but the real power are in the Intel hands. I suspect the reality will be more in the lines of meego being both an upstream for Intel, Nokia and whoever, and a LSB-like spec for application interoperability on different systems. I'd expect that Nokia's MeeGo devices will still have, for example, OVI APIs and Nokia Messaging that no other manufacturer will have, and perhaps other stuff too. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Qt 4.6 Extras
On Wednesday 10 February 2010, Quim Gil wrote: - When the Qt 4.6 libraries are final they will be integrated in the Maemo 5 official release. Is the plan to upgrade the qt4.5 libs, or to have both? If the latter, will they be installed to /opt? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: ?Ogg Vorbis support hw-accelerated
On Wednesday 10 February 2010, Gunter Ohrner wrote: Does the OGG decoder utilise the CPU's media acceleration features (NEON), or is decoding performed in software only, probably draining the battery pretty quick? I'd consider a decoder using NEON as being software too ;-) What battery run times do you get if continuously playing some MP3s and OGG Vorbis, in comparison? Tuomas Kulve did some excellent tests: http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2009/11/07/n900-battery-duration-ogg-vs-mp3/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
