Re: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
Perhaps what was meant that it doesn't have support for building SConstruct files. But as it's so easy to write them manually, I see no problem in it. On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 03:16 +0300, ext Timo Savola wrote: > On Sat, 2005-07-23 at 15:22 -0300, Gustavo Barbieri wrote: > > > So, you can use Kdevelop. It doesn't handle SCons AFAIK, but it does > > handle much of autotools and makefiles in a graphical way. > > Replace "make" with "scons" in the project settings and it works fine. > > timo > > > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
I would love to help. just tell me what to do..as Im new both to anjuta (I use XEmacs) and hildon (I use SDL on maemo).But I would love to help,as I want to look to the device and see that I helped to do something important on it. --- Koen Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Daniel Monteiro wrote: > > I really dont like KDE stuff...its just its > graphic > > style =-P > > If that's the case you can use Anjuta, which is > written in gtk. Any > volunteers to hildonize anjuta ;) > > regards, > > Koen > > > > > anyway, I cant avoid it forever.I must learn it > > > > --- Gustavo Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > escreveu: > > > > > >>On 7/22/05, Daniel Monteiro > >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>>thanks for the tip > >>>Im quite lost, As I come from the Borland Land, > >> > >>where > >> > >>>everything is graphical , pretty and easy =-P > >> > >>So, you can use Kdevelop. It doesn't handle SCons > >>AFAIK, but it does > >>handle much of autotools and makefiles in a > >>graphical way. > >> > >>But IMHO you should try SCons, it kick ass (i'm > >>porting some software to it). > >> > >>-- > >>Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > >>--- > >>Computer Engineer 2001 - UNICAMP > >>GPSL - Grupo Pro Software Livre > >>Cell..: +55 (19) 9165 8010 > >>Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> ICQ#: 17249123 > >> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Skype: gsbarbieri > >> GPG: 0xB640E1A2 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net > >> > > > > > > > > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro > > > > visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu > computador > > ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! > > > > > > > > __ > > Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o > Yahoo! Messenger > > http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/ > > ___ > > maemo-developers mailing list > > maemo-developers@maemo.org > > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFC5AaFMkyGM64RGpERAoYgAJwJ0CVEK6YVrP1xmo7g46Kw8TeREACdFBsO > 74rTJ3NC4j1klXYsISxJSrw= > =q7F4 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu computador ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! ___ Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Monteiro wrote: > I really dont like KDE stuff...its just its graphic > style =-P If that's the case you can use Anjuta, which is written in gtk. Any volunteers to hildonize anjuta ;) regards, Koen > > anyway, I cant avoid it forever.I must learn it > > --- Gustavo Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > > >>On 7/22/05, Daniel Monteiro >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>thanks for the tip >>>Im quite lost, As I come from the Borland Land, >> >>where >> >>>everything is graphical , pretty and easy =-P >> >>So, you can use Kdevelop. It doesn't handle SCons >>AFAIK, but it does >>handle much of autotools and makefiles in a >>graphical way. >> >>But IMHO you should try SCons, it kick ass (i'm >>porting some software to it). >> >>-- >>Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >>--- >>Computer Engineer 2001 - UNICAMP >>GPSL - Grupo Pro Software Livre >>Cell..: +55 (19) 9165 8010 >>Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ICQ#: 17249123 >> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Skype: gsbarbieri >> GPG: 0xB640E1A2 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net >> > > > > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro > > visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu computador > ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! > > > > __ > Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o Yahoo! Messenger > http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/ > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFC5AaFMkyGM64RGpERAoYgAJwJ0CVEK6YVrP1xmo7g46Kw8TeREACdFBsO 74rTJ3NC4j1klXYsISxJSrw= =q7F4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
I really dont like KDE stuff...its just its graphic style =-P anyway, I cant avoid it forever.I must learn it --- Gustavo Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > On 7/22/05, Daniel Monteiro > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > thanks for the tip > > Im quite lost, As I come from the Borland Land, > where > > everything is graphical , pretty and easy =-P > > So, you can use Kdevelop. It doesn't handle SCons > AFAIK, but it does > handle much of autotools and makefiles in a > graphical way. > > But IMHO you should try SCons, it kick ass (i'm > porting some software to it). > > -- > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > --- > Computer Engineer 2001 - UNICAMP > GPSL - Grupo Pro Software Livre > Cell..: +55 (19) 9165 8010 > Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ#: 17249123 >MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype: gsbarbieri >GPG: 0xB640E1A2 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu computador ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! __ Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o Yahoo! Messenger http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
On Sat, 2005-07-23 at 15:22 -0300, Gustavo Barbieri wrote: > So, you can use Kdevelop. It doesn't handle SCons AFAIK, but it does > handle much of autotools and makefiles in a graphical way. Replace "make" with "scons" in the project settings and it works fine. timo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
On 7/22/05, Daniel Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > thanks for the tip > Im quite lost, As I come from the Borland Land, where > everything is graphical , pretty and easy =-P So, you can use Kdevelop. It doesn't handle SCons AFAIK, but it does handle much of autotools and makefiles in a graphical way. But IMHO you should try SCons, it kick ass (i'm porting some software to it). -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri --- Computer Engineer 2001 - UNICAMP GPSL - Grupo Pro Software Livre Cell..: +55 (19) 9165 8010 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 17249123 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: gsbarbieri GPG: 0xB640E1A2 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
thanks for the tip Im quite lost, As I come from the Borland Land, where everything is graphical , pretty and easy =-P --- Gustavo Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > On 7/22/05, Daniel Monteiro > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > here is it: > > > > > http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/junkybox2002/KidSketch.tar.gz > > still very early. the code itself still a mess.I > > really want to clean this up very soon. > > > > and this is the current state of the framwork > port. > > The work is in progress: > > > > http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/junkybox2002/src.zip > > I'm out of computer access from late today until > next week :-( > > > > you may notice that I took some configuration > files > > from crazyparking, as Im new to makefiles,autoconf > and > > maemo. > > Use SCons http://www.scons.org/ > > > -- > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > --- > Computer Engineer 2001 - UNICAMP > GPSL - Grupo Pro Software Livre > Cell..: +55 (19) 9165 8010 > Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ#: 17249123 >MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype: gsbarbieri >GPG: 0xB640E1A2 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu computador ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! ___ Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
On 7/22/05, Daniel Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > here is it: > > http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/junkybox2002/KidSketch.tar.gz > still very early. the code itself still a mess.I > really want to clean this up very soon. > > and this is the current state of the framwork port. > The work is in progress: > > http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/junkybox2002/src.zip I'm out of computer access from late today until next week :-( > you may notice that I took some configuration files > from crazyparking, as Im new to makefiles,autoconf and > maemo. Use SCons http://www.scons.org/ -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri --- Computer Engineer 2001 - UNICAMP GPSL - Grupo Pro Software Livre Cell..: +55 (19) 9165 8010 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 17249123 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: gsbarbieri GPG: 0xB640E1A2 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
here is it: http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/junkybox2002/KidSketch.tar.gz still very early. the code itself still a mess.I really want to clean this up very soon. and this is the current state of the framwork port. The work is in progress: http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/junkybox2002/src.zip you may notice that I took some configuration files from crazyparking, as Im new to makefiles,autoconf and maemo. --- Gustavo Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > On 7/21/05, Daniel Monteiro > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Im not really worried with storage right now... > > my main concern is certainly with interface and > > animation modules > > > > Im starting to consider using my SDL > framework.This > > piece of software I wrote originally for my > N-Gage, > > for a 3D game! but I think it will very suitable > for > > the task,as it provides a good suport for > different > > states of operation,like drawing a individual > > frame,playing the final animation, saving it ,etc. > > > > Also, it may provide other good facilities,like > > "ribbons" (mario paint ;-) , geometric forms, etc. > > Good part is that lots of code is already done, as > Im > > porting it to maemo ,for another 3D RPG game. > > > > Anyone interested in getting involved on doing > this > > software? I've got a possible name for it: > "KidSketch" > > yes, open a project and we can look at the code and > send you patches. > > -- > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > --- > Computer Engineer 2001 - UNICAMP > GPSL - Grupo Pro Software Livre > Cell..: +55 (19) 9165 8010 > Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ#: 17249123 >MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype: gsbarbieri >GPG: 0xB640E1A2 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu computador ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! __ Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o Yahoo! Messenger http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
On 7/21/05, Daniel Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Im not really worried with storage right now... > my main concern is certainly with interface and > animation modules > > Im starting to consider using my SDL framework.This > piece of software I wrote originally for my N-Gage, > for a 3D game! but I think it will very suitable for > the task,as it provides a good suport for different > states of operation,like drawing a individual > frame,playing the final animation, saving it ,etc. > > Also, it may provide other good facilities,like > "ribbons" (mario paint ;-) , geometric forms, etc. > Good part is that lots of code is already done, as Im > porting it to maemo ,for another 3D RPG game. > > Anyone interested in getting involved on doing this > software? I've got a possible name for it: "KidSketch" yes, open a project and we can look at the code and send you patches. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri --- Computer Engineer 2001 - UNICAMP GPSL - Grupo Pro Software Livre Cell..: +55 (19) 9165 8010 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 17249123 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: gsbarbieri GPG: 0xB640E1A2 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
Im not really worried with storage right now... my main concern is certainly with interface and animation modules Im starting to consider using my SDL framework.This piece of software I wrote originally for my N-Gage, for a 3D game! but I think it will very suitable for the task,as it provides a good suport for different states of operation,like drawing a individual frame,playing the final animation, saving it ,etc. Also, it may provide other good facilities,like "ribbons" (mario paint ;-) , geometric forms, etc. Good part is that lots of code is already done, as Im porting it to maemo ,for another 3D RPG game. Anyone interested in getting involved on doing this software? I've got a possible name for it: "KidSketch" --- Gustavo Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > On 7/21/05, Aleksandr Koltsoff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 21 July 2005 16:09, Brad Clements > wrote: > > > http://www.fabrica.it/flipbook/ > > > > > > I guess flipbook is done with flash, but any > drawing program that saves 1- > > > bit jpgs and can flip through them will work.. > > > > Hello > > > > Please consider using another format besides jpeg > for 1-bit images (png) since > > there is no such thing as 1-bit jpegs. > > 1-bit png would be great as it can also be > compressed. > > -- > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > --- > Computer Engineer 2001 - UNICAMP > GPSL - Grupo Pro Software Livre > Cell..: +55 (19) 9165 8010 > Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ#: 17249123 >MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype: gsbarbieri >GPG: 0xB640E1A2 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu computador ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! __ Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o Yahoo! Messenger http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
On 7/21/05, Aleksandr Koltsoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 21 July 2005 16:09, Brad Clements wrote: > > http://www.fabrica.it/flipbook/ > > > > I guess flipbook is done with flash, but any drawing program that saves 1- > > bit jpgs and can flip through them will work.. > > Hello > > Please consider using another format besides jpeg for 1-bit images (png) since > there is no such thing as 1-bit jpegs. 1-bit png would be great as it can also be compressed. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri --- Computer Engineer 2001 - UNICAMP GPSL - Grupo Pro Software Livre Cell..: +55 (19) 9165 8010 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 17249123 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: gsbarbieri GPG: 0xB640E1A2 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
On Thursday 21 July 2005 16:09, Brad Clements wrote: > http://www.fabrica.it/flipbook/ > > I guess flipbook is done with flash, but any drawing program that saves 1- > bit jpgs and can flip through them will work.. Hello Please consider using another format besides jpeg for 1-bit images (png) since there is no such thing as 1-bit jpegs. ak. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
I guess that keeping the pictures smaller would help, as we only have 64 MB RAM in the 770 and it will be running with lots of things on the same time Im starting to love this idea of a sketchpad for kids. I will try to include SDL_gfx in the project, in order to make more shapes of brush. and I will replace the palette with the shape widgets --- Brad Clements <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > On 20 Jul 2005 at 10:21, Daniel Monteiro wrote: > > > > > Hey!What if I make it more children-oriented? > > Or this decice is not for kids? > > > > My kids would love to have something like this on > the 770 > > http://www.fabrica.it/flipbook/ > > I guess flipbook is done with flash, but any drawing > program that saves 1- > bit jpgs and can flip through them will work.. > > > > -- > Brad Clements,[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (315)268-1000 > http://www.murkworks.com > AOL-IM or SKYPE: BKClements > > > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu computador ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! __ Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o Yahoo! Messenger http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
On 20 Jul 2005 at 10:21, Daniel Monteiro wrote: > > Hey!What if I make it more children-oriented? > Or this decice is not for kids? > My kids would love to have something like this on the 770 http://www.fabrica.it/flipbook/ I guess flipbook is done with flash, but any drawing program that saves 1- bit jpgs and can flip through them will work.. -- Brad Clements,[EMAIL PROTECTED](315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com AOL-IM or SKYPE: BKClements ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
its just a VERY simple paint program You don't have a pallete. instead,you click to increase or decrease the R,the G and the B. also, I will include different brush shapes. And then, you can save,open and create a new bitmap. just that Hey!What if I make it more children-oriented? Or this decice is not for kids? I guess it may be a good children device, as this picture shows: http://photos1.blogger.com/img/14/1996/640/albinonokia.jpg this is a happy kid =-P --- Olli Salli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > Please also note that this is only my personal > opinion, not Nokia's > official one. Also, it depends on what kind of paint > application it is, > but for anything with more features than the Sketch > currently featured > in 770, I'd stick with the maximum working space > -idiom. > > On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 20:36 -0300, ext Daniel > Monteiro wrote: > > thanks > > better for me > > its easier to stick with simple icons =-P > > > > --- Olli Salli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > > > > > About the GUI, I think for paint apps you should > > > maximize the working > > > space, so no borders and all menus/buttons > should > > > come only when needed > > > with the press of a button or alike. So I > wouldn't > > > probably even want > > > the GUI to be like the usual hildon ones. > > > > > > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 17:59 -0300, ext Daniel > > > Monteiro wrote: > > > > please > > > > where can I find your demo? > > > > > > > > also , I've got an dilema: > > > > for this "paint' application, I did a small > gui > > > lib. > > > > my question is more about usability: > > > > should I make it look more like hildon? > > > > My fear is that it may confuse the user,and > make > > > him > > > > think that the gui will behave the same way > hildon > > > > does. > > > > > > > > on the other side, a completly different > looking > > > gui > > > > may look > > > > akward or even ugly. > > > > > > > > what should I do? > > > > > > > > --- Olli Salli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > escreveu: > > > > > > > > > Like I said, Xinput isn't in our X Server > and > > > most > > > > > likely won't come > > > > > (since XInput is a huge deprecated mess, > which > > > would > > > > > require lots of > > > > > work to get integrated to kdrive). > > > > > > > > > > Instead, I've extended XCalibrate for this > > > purpose. > > > > > It can also be used > > > > > pretty neatly with SDL, I made a demo app > for it > > > too > > > > > with SDL (a > > > > > metaball style effect in which the > > > > > moves-with-the-stylus-ball's > > > > > intensity changes with pressure). > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:46 +, ext > Daniel > > > > > Monteiro wrote: > > > > > > thanks! > > > > > > There is any way to call this from a SDL > App? > > > > > > > > > > > > or maybe I will have to convert my app to > > > > > hildon... > > > > > > > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe here? > > > http://www.gtk.org/~otaylor/xinput/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > maemo-developers mailing list > > > > > > > maemo-developers@maemo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro > > > > > > > > > > > > visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu > > > > > computador > > > > > > ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu > celular! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > > > Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com > o > > > > > Yahoo! Messenger > > > > > > http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/ > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > maemo-developers mailing list > > > > > > maemo-developers@maemo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro > > > > > > > > visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu > > > computador > > > > ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e > grátis. > > > > Instale o discador agora! > > > http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro > > > > visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu > computador > > ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > >
RE: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
Please also note that this is only my personal opinion, not Nokia's official one. Also, it depends on what kind of paint application it is, but for anything with more features than the Sketch currently featured in 770, I'd stick with the maximum working space -idiom. On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 20:36 -0300, ext Daniel Monteiro wrote: > thanks > better for me > its easier to stick with simple icons =-P > > --- Olli Salli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > > > About the GUI, I think for paint apps you should > > maximize the working > > space, so no borders and all menus/buttons should > > come only when needed > > with the press of a button or alike. So I wouldn't > > probably even want > > the GUI to be like the usual hildon ones. > > > > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 17:59 -0300, ext Daniel > > Monteiro wrote: > > > please > > > where can I find your demo? > > > > > > also , I've got an dilema: > > > for this "paint' application, I did a small gui > > lib. > > > my question is more about usability: > > > should I make it look more like hildon? > > > My fear is that it may confuse the user,and make > > him > > > think that the gui will behave the same way hildon > > > does. > > > > > > on the other side, a completly different looking > > gui > > > may look > > > akward or even ugly. > > > > > > what should I do? > > > > > > --- Olli Salli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > > > > > > > Like I said, Xinput isn't in our X Server and > > most > > > > likely won't come > > > > (since XInput is a huge deprecated mess, which > > would > > > > require lots of > > > > work to get integrated to kdrive). > > > > > > > > Instead, I've extended XCalibrate for this > > purpose. > > > > It can also be used > > > > pretty neatly with SDL, I made a demo app for it > > too > > > > with SDL (a > > > > metaball style effect in which the > > > > moves-with-the-stylus-ball's > > > > intensity changes with pressure). > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:46 +, ext Daniel > > > > Monteiro wrote: > > > > > thanks! > > > > > There is any way to call this from a SDL App? > > > > > > > > > > or maybe I will have to convert my app to > > > > hildon... > > > > > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe here? > > http://www.gtk.org/~otaylor/xinput/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > maemo-developers mailing list > > > > > > maemo-developers@maemo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro > > > > > > > > > > visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu > > > > computador > > > > > ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > > Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o > > > > Yahoo! Messenger > > > > > http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/ > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > maemo-developers mailing list > > > > > maemo-developers@maemo.org > > > > > > > > > > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro > > > > > > visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu > > computador > > > ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. > > > Instale o discador agora! > > http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro > > visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu computador > ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! > > > > > > > > ___ > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. > Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
thanks better for me its easier to stick with simple icons =-P --- Olli Salli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > About the GUI, I think for paint apps you should > maximize the working > space, so no borders and all menus/buttons should > come only when needed > with the press of a button or alike. So I wouldn't > probably even want > the GUI to be like the usual hildon ones. > > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 17:59 -0300, ext Daniel > Monteiro wrote: > > please > > where can I find your demo? > > > > also , I've got an dilema: > > for this "paint' application, I did a small gui > lib. > > my question is more about usability: > > should I make it look more like hildon? > > My fear is that it may confuse the user,and make > him > > think that the gui will behave the same way hildon > > does. > > > > on the other side, a completly different looking > gui > > may look > > akward or even ugly. > > > > what should I do? > > > > --- Olli Salli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > > > > > Like I said, Xinput isn't in our X Server and > most > > > likely won't come > > > (since XInput is a huge deprecated mess, which > would > > > require lots of > > > work to get integrated to kdrive). > > > > > > Instead, I've extended XCalibrate for this > purpose. > > > It can also be used > > > pretty neatly with SDL, I made a demo app for it > too > > > with SDL (a > > > metaball style effect in which the > > > moves-with-the-stylus-ball's > > > intensity changes with pressure). > > > > > > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:46 +, ext Daniel > > > Monteiro wrote: > > > > thanks! > > > > There is any way to call this from a SDL App? > > > > > > > > or maybe I will have to convert my app to > > > hildon... > > > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: > > > > > > > > > Maybe here? > http://www.gtk.org/~otaylor/xinput/ > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > maemo-developers mailing list > > > > > maemo-developers@maemo.org > > > > > > > > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro > > > > > > > > visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu > > > computador > > > > ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o > > > Yahoo! Messenger > > > > http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/ > > > > > ___ > > > > maemo-developers mailing list > > > > maemo-developers@maemo.org > > > > > > > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro > > > > visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu > computador > > ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. > > Instale o discador agora! > http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ > > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu computador ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! ___ Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
About the GUI, I think for paint apps you should maximize the working space, so no borders and all menus/buttons should come only when needed with the press of a button or alike. So I wouldn't probably even want the GUI to be like the usual hildon ones. On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 17:59 -0300, ext Daniel Monteiro wrote: > please > where can I find your demo? > > also , I've got an dilema: > for this "paint' application, I did a small gui lib. > my question is more about usability: > should I make it look more like hildon? > My fear is that it may confuse the user,and make him > think that the gui will behave the same way hildon > does. > > on the other side, a completly different looking gui > may look > akward or even ugly. > > what should I do? > > --- Olli Salli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > > > Like I said, Xinput isn't in our X Server and most > > likely won't come > > (since XInput is a huge deprecated mess, which would > > require lots of > > work to get integrated to kdrive). > > > > Instead, I've extended XCalibrate for this purpose. > > It can also be used > > pretty neatly with SDL, I made a demo app for it too > > with SDL (a > > metaball style effect in which the > > moves-with-the-stylus-ball's > > intensity changes with pressure). > > > > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:46 +, ext Daniel > > Monteiro wrote: > > > thanks! > > > There is any way to call this from a SDL App? > > > > > > or maybe I will have to convert my app to > > hildon... > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: > > > > > > > Maybe here? http://www.gtk.org/~otaylor/xinput/ > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > maemo-developers mailing list > > > > maemo-developers@maemo.org > > > > > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro > > > > > > visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu > > computador > > > ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o > > Yahoo! Messenger > > > http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/ > > > ___ > > > maemo-developers mailing list > > > maemo-developers@maemo.org > > > > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > > > > > > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro > > visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu computador > ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! > > > > > > > > ___ > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. > Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
please where can I find your demo? also , I've got an dilema: for this "paint' application, I did a small gui lib. my question is more about usability: should I make it look more like hildon? My fear is that it may confuse the user,and make him think that the gui will behave the same way hildon does. on the other side, a completly different looking gui may look akward or even ugly. what should I do? --- Olli Salli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > Like I said, Xinput isn't in our X Server and most > likely won't come > (since XInput is a huge deprecated mess, which would > require lots of > work to get integrated to kdrive). > > Instead, I've extended XCalibrate for this purpose. > It can also be used > pretty neatly with SDL, I made a demo app for it too > with SDL (a > metaball style effect in which the > moves-with-the-stylus-ball's > intensity changes with pressure). > > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:46 +, ext Daniel > Monteiro wrote: > > thanks! > > There is any way to call this from a SDL App? > > > > or maybe I will have to convert my app to > hildon... > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: > > > > > Maybe here? http://www.gtk.org/~otaylor/xinput/ > > > > > > ___ > > > maemo-developers mailing list > > > maemo-developers@maemo.org > > > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > > > > > > > > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro > > > > visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu > computador > > ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! > > > > > > > > __ > > Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o > Yahoo! Messenger > > http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/ > > ___ > > maemo-developers mailing list > > maemo-developers@maemo.org > > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu computador ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! ___ Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
Like I said, Xinput isn't in our X Server and most likely won't come (since XInput is a huge deprecated mess, which would require lots of work to get integrated to kdrive). Instead, I've extended XCalibrate for this purpose. It can also be used pretty neatly with SDL, I made a demo app for it too with SDL (a metaball style effect in which the moves-with-the-stylus-ball's intensity changes with pressure). On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:46 +, ext Daniel Monteiro wrote: > thanks! > There is any way to call this from a SDL App? > > or maybe I will have to convert my app to hildon... > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: > > > Maybe here? http://www.gtk.org/~otaylor/xinput/ > > > > ___ > > maemo-developers mailing list > > maemo-developers@maemo.org > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > > > > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro > > visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu computador > ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! > > > > __ > Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o Yahoo! Messenger > http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/ > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
thanks! There is any way to call this from a SDL App? or maybe I will have to convert my app to hildon... --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: > Maybe here? http://www.gtk.org/~otaylor/xinput/ > > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > Daniel "NeoStrider" Monteiro visite: http://www.makingthegame.tk no seu computador ou http://tagtag.com/makegame no seu celular! __ Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o Yahoo! Messenger http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
Maybe here? http://www.gtk.org/~otaylor/xinput/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] new software for 770
Hi! Quoting Daniel Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hey folks! > Im about to finish a paint-like application. > but it is made in SDL. > > so how it is 770-oriented? > well, it spread more ink when you press the pen > against the screen longer. Nothing really new, right? > > I want suggestions on what should I do in order to > make it as it was "made specially for maemo and 770" > You should check the "Integrating applications to maemo Framework" chapter from maemo tutorial: http://maemo.org/platform/docs/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial.html#integration You need to make at least desktop & service files to get the application in the Task Navigator menu. Also you could do libosso integration but then you should use the SDL wrapper, Kuisma can probably help more in this if needed. > As I was writing this email, the idea of using the > zoom hardware buttons hit me.I will try to use this > idea... > Yep, zoom HW buttons can easily be used from SDL also, see the mapping from: http://maemo.org/platform/docs/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial.html#Hardware-keys > there is any method in GTK or Hildon for getting the > pressure the user is doing with the pen against the > screen... > I know that there is at least some testing going on to get also the pressure information from the touchscreen, getting it all the way to GTK. Don't know more about that (too HW specific for me ;) so stay tuned! - Kaitsu - ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
