RE: [maemo-users] Removing email client
>Hey, > >Does anyone have information how to disable "View Inbox" and >"New e-mail message" menu items under contacts menu? > >Because I didn't want to use the default email client, I >decided to just simply remove it. > >PS. What is the progress on Modest? :) > Asked myself the same yesterday when seeing this: http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2007/01/29/yet-another-tinymail-e-mail -client Br, --jakub ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: Problem mounting ext2 partition at startup
Ok. I've got it. I've added these two lines to /etc/init.d/minircS, just before mount_devpts: insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/current/ext2.ko mount /media/mmc2 :) 2007/2/1, sebastian maemo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi, folks. I've created an ext2 partition on my RS-MMC and would like it to be mounted automagically at startup. I've tried by adding this feature to /etc/init.d/minircS but without success. Maybe because I don't know exactly what I'm doing. I know I must load the ext2 module kernel before it tries to mount the partition but don't know where to put this line: # insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/current/ext2.ko I've also modified /etc/fstab. I may mount the partition manually, of course. But I want it to be mounted at startup. The process I've followed is described at: http://sebas-nokia770.blogspot.com/2007/01/how-to-create-partition-without-pc.html Thank you for your help. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Problem mounting ext2 partition at startup
Hi, folks. I've created an ext2 partition on my RS-MMC and would like it to be mounted automagically at startup. I've tried by adding this feature to /etc/init.d/minircS but without success. Maybe because I don't know exactly what I'm doing. I know I must load the ext2 module kernel before it tries to mount the partition but don't know where to put this line: # insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/current/ext2.ko I've also modified /etc/fstab. I may mount the partition manually, of course. But I want it to be mounted at startup. The process I've followed is described at: http://sebas-nokia770.blogspot.com/2007/01/how-to-create-partition-without-pc.html Thank you for your help. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: [maemo-users] n800 and ThinkOutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard
Thanks, David - that's good info. Nick Shaw -Original Message- From: David Hagood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:21 PM To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: 'Albert Teixidó'; 'Ty Hoffman'; maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-users] n800 and ThinkOutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: > Any comments/thoughts on which is better - the Nokia SU-8W BT Keyboard or > the ThinkOutside Stowaway BT keyboard? > > I see the ThinkOutside keyboard has a separate row for the numeric keys but > don't know how each works or functions. > Regards, > > Nick Shaw > I had a ThinkOutside keyboard - to do numbers you pressed the blue FN key and the number, to do the shift of the numbers (e.g. $) you pressed the green FN key. My ThinkOutside died - the two halves of the keyboard are connected with a piece of cheap flex PC board (actually the whole keyboard is one big piece of flex), and opening and closing the keyboard broke that flex - and once that happened it was game over. As a result I would NOT recommend the Stowaway. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Simple camera app for N800
On 1/31/07, David Hagood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are there plans for a simple camera app for the N800? It would be nice to be able to just take a quick snap or small movie. I was kind of surprised that there was nothing like that included. As it is a v4l device, it should be relatively simple for one to get ported over. Maybe one of these: http://www.linux.com/howtos/Webcam-HOWTO/framegrabbers.shtml /Mike ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] online office apps?
Has anyone found a good solution from their tablet? Google Docs does not support the browser we have and Zoho, which looks awesome and loads is unable to let me enter any text through finger, stylus or my stowaway. Anyone sorted any of this out yet? Thanks, JG -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Simple camera app for N800
Are there plans for a simple camera app for the N800? It would be nice to be able to just take a quick snap or small movie. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
Michael Wiktowy wrote: There were also a few threads (not sure if it was here or ITT) mentioning that the kernel included in the N800 firmware does not include the bits necessary to enable USB host mode so there is some doubts that the N800 hardware even supports USB host. That would be unfortunate - one of the things I'd like to port is GMFSK, which is a program for doing data over HF radio, and ideally I would want to use an external USB sound card to talk to the radio. No host mode = no way to feed external audio in (you cannot use Bluetooth audio as the compression required would make it impossible to recover the data.) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] n800 and ThinkOutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard
Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: Any comments/thoughts on which is better - the Nokia SU-8W BT Keyboard or the ThinkOutside Stowaway BT keyboard? I see the ThinkOutside keyboard has a separate row for the numeric keys but don't know how each works or functions. Regards, Nick Shaw I had a ThinkOutside keyboard - to do numbers you pressed the blue FN key and the number, to do the shift of the numbers (e.g. $) you pressed the green FN key. My ThinkOutside died - the two halves of the keyboard are connected with a piece of cheap flex PC board (actually the whole keyboard is one big piece of flex), and opening and closing the keyboard broke that flex - and once that happened it was game over. As a result I would NOT recommend the Stowaway. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
Alternatively, as I recently learned, just have something already running from the SD card or cards you want to keep mounted. Your device will complain that it can't unmount them, and leave them be. -Josh On 1/31/07, Jon Smirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/31/07, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 12:41:37PM -0500, Jon Smirl wrote: > > On 1/31/07, Luca Donaggio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >That's exactly what I've done: I modified a powered hub to inject power to > > >the N800 too. It used to work on the 770, but not on the N800, so maybe > > >there's something else involved which I'm not aware of. > > > > They should have also made the N770/800 chargeable from the USB port. > > That way you can avoid carrying a charger around and charge it from > > your laptop or phone charger (most phones are switching to USB > > charging). > > When you plug the USB cable, the Nokia tablets unmount the MMC card so > that it could be exported via USB as a block device. > > It would be *very* annoying if I couldn't play mp3s from the MMC card > while the tablet was being charged. Simply charging by USB does not count as an active USB connection. You can charge without unmounting the device. With some creative software you could also remove the need to have only one side using the MMC card. Doing that would probably require exporting the card vs NFS instead of as a USB block device. Plugging in the USB cable could automatically trigger loading/unloading the USB networking module and start the in-kernel NFS server. Another way would be to add a simple UI that pops up when an active USB host is connected. It would just ask if you wanted the MMC exported over USB and give you a chance to say no. > > Marius Gedminas > -- > (mental note: stop installing red hat. everytime i do so, it takes ages to fix > my system again.) > -- from the sig of Martin Högman > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFFwObbkVdEXeem148RAjr5AJ9b0KsF2T0rSvglhpF86r+ytJCnUQCeLBMa > 7DP0ze+x4HHbngI93JKDOQU= > =HuhZ > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > -- Jon Smirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
Bus 005 Device 012: ID 0525:a4a2 Netchip Technology, Inc. Linux-USB Ethernet/RNDIS Gadget Device Descriptor: bLength18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass2 Communications bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize064 idVendor 0x0525 Netchip Technology, Inc. idProduct 0xa4a2 Linux-USB Ethernet/RNDIS Gadget bcdDevice2.08 iManufacturer 1 Linux 2.6.16.27-omap1/omap_udc iProduct2 RNDIS/Ethernet Gadget iSerial 0 bNumConfigurations 2 OTG Descriptor: bLength 3 bDescriptorType 9 bmAttributes 0x03 SRP (Session Request Protocol) HNP (Host Negotiation Protocol) Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 70 bNumInterfaces 2 bConfigurationValue 2 iConfiguration 9 RNDIS bmAttributes 0xe0 Self Powered Remote Wakeup MaxPower8mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 1 bInterfaceClass 2 Communications bInterfaceSubClass 2 Abstract (modem) bInterfaceProtocol255 Vendor Specific (MSFT RNDIS?) iInterface 6 RNDIS Communications Control CDC Header: bcdCDC 1.10 bcdCDC 1.10 CDC Call Management: bmCapabilities 0x00 bDataInterface 1 CDC ACM: bmCapabilities 0x00 CDC Union: bMasterInterface0 bSlaveInterface 1 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes3 Transfer TypeInterrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0010 1x 16 bytes bInterval 32 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber1 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass10 Data bInterfaceSubClass 0 Unused bInterfaceProtocol 0 iInterface 4 Ethernet Data Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval 0 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 83 bNumInterfaces 2 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 7 CDC Ethernet bmAttributes 0xe0 Self Powered Remote Wakeup MaxPower8mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 1 bInterfaceClass 2 Communications bInterfaceSubClass 6 Ethernet Networking bInterfaceProtocol 0 iInterface 5 CDC Communications Control CDC Header: bcdCDC 1.10 CDC Union: bMasterInterface0 bSlaveInterface 1 CDC Ethernet: iMacAddress 3 26D3BFD7A068 bmEthernetStatistics0x wMaxSegmentSize 1514 wNumberMCFilters0x bNumberPowerFilters 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes3 Transfer TypeInterrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0010 1x 16 bytes bInterval 32 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber1 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 0 bInterfaceClass10 Data bInterfaceSubClass 0 Unused bInterfaceProtocol 0 iInterface 0 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber1 bAlternateSetting 1 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass
Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
On 1/31/07, Michael Wiktowy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/31/07, Jon Smirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No power is also tied up in implementing the kernel USB OTG driver for > the device. The spec says you can't advertise OTG support if the port > has no power. Neither the 770 or the N800 advertises USB OTG support. A Nokia dev mentioned a few days ago that the N800 definitely does *not* support Load the USB gadget driver and it will advertise OTG support. Works on the 770. I don't have an 800 yet. USB OTG. There were also a few threads (not sure if it was here or ITT) mentioning that the kernel included in the N800 firmware does not include the bits necessary to enable USB host mode so there is some doubts that the N800 hardware even supports USB host. Some folks are recompiling the kernel to add those bits back in but I don't think anyone has successfully had the N800 working as a USB host as of yet. /Mike ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jon Smirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
On 1/31/07, Jon Smirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No power is also tied up in implementing the kernel USB OTG driver for the device. The spec says you can't advertise OTG support if the port has no power. Neither the 770 or the N800 advertises USB OTG support. A Nokia dev mentioned a few days ago that the N800 definitely does *not* support USB OTG. There were also a few threads (not sure if it was here or ITT) mentioning that the kernel included in the N800 firmware does not include the bits necessary to enable USB host mode so there is some doubts that the N800 hardware even supports USB host. Some folks are recompiling the kernel to add those bits back in but I don't think anyone has successfully had the N800 working as a USB host as of yet. /Mike ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] n800 and ThinkOutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard
worked just fine for me. Collin On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 00:35 -0800, Ty Hoffman wrote: > hello, > Anybody out there tried the n800 with the ThinkOutside bluetooth > keyboard? Can't get it to work, and was hoping there is some trick to > it. Tried the 'generic 105 key' keyboard setting... >This keyboard worked with the 770 and the bt plugin. > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Collin R. Mulliner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BETAVERSiON Systems [www.betaversion.net] info/pgp: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quick and dirty: my favorite pattern! ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
Hi, with my k800i i can do both charging and/or transfer at the same time when i connect it with the USB cable to my laptop. The phone will ask which mode it should switch to which is similar to the mentioned concept. perhaps in next version then, perhaps? wahlau. On 31/01/07, Jon Smirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/31/07, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 12:41:37PM -0500, Jon Smirl wrote: > > On 1/31/07, Luca Donaggio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >That's exactly what I've done: I modified a powered hub to inject power to > > >the N800 too. It used to work on the 770, but not on the N800, so maybe > > >there's something else involved which I'm not aware of. > > > > They should have also made the N770/800 chargeable from the USB port. > > That way you can avoid carrying a charger around and charge it from > > your laptop or phone charger (most phones are switching to USB > > charging). > > When you plug the USB cable, the Nokia tablets unmount the MMC card so > that it could be exported via USB as a block device. > > It would be *very* annoying if I couldn't play mp3s from the MMC card > while the tablet was being charged. Simply charging by USB does not count as an active USB connection. You can charge without unmounting the device. With some creative software you could also remove the need to have only one side using the MMC card. Doing that would probably require exporting the card vs NFS instead of as a USB block device. Plugging in the USB cable could automatically trigger loading/unloading the USB networking module and start the in-kernel NFS server. Another way would be to add a simple UI that pops up when an active USB host is connected. It would just ask if you wanted the MMC exported over USB and give you a chance to say no. > > Marius Gedminas > -- > (mental note: stop installing red hat. everytime i do so, it takes ages to fix > my system again.) > -- from the sig of Martin Högman > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFFwObbkVdEXeem148RAjr5AJ9b0KsF2T0rSvglhpF86r+ytJCnUQCeLBMa > 7DP0ze+x4HHbngI93JKDOQU= > =HuhZ > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > -- Jon Smirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: [telepathy] disconnect after sending message
Touchė! On 1/31/07, booiiing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2007/1/31, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You mean telephony right -- Your Tablet is not capable of ESP is it? ;) as far as i am informed, the preinstalled instant-messaging application uses the telepathy-framework[1]. that's what i meant. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telepathy_(Instant_messager) -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: [telepathy] disconnect after sending message
2007/1/31, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: You mean telephony right -- Your Tablet is not capable of ESP is it? ;) as far as i am informed, the preinstalled instant-messaging application uses the telepathy-framework[1]. that's what i meant. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telepathy_(Instant_messager) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
On 1/31/07, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 12:41:37PM -0500, Jon Smirl wrote: > On 1/31/07, Luca Donaggio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >That's exactly what I've done: I modified a powered hub to inject power to > >the N800 too. It used to work on the 770, but not on the N800, so maybe > >there's something else involved which I'm not aware of. > > They should have also made the N770/800 chargeable from the USB port. > That way you can avoid carrying a charger around and charge it from > your laptop or phone charger (most phones are switching to USB > charging). When you plug the USB cable, the Nokia tablets unmount the MMC card so that it could be exported via USB as a block device. It would be *very* annoying if I couldn't play mp3s from the MMC card while the tablet was being charged. Simply charging by USB does not count as an active USB connection. You can charge without unmounting the device. With some creative software you could also remove the need to have only one side using the MMC card. Doing that would probably require exporting the card vs NFS instead of as a USB block device. Plugging in the USB cable could automatically trigger loading/unloading the USB networking module and start the in-kernel NFS server. Another way would be to add a simple UI that pops up when an active USB host is connected. It would just ask if you wanted the MMC exported over USB and give you a chance to say no. Marius Gedminas -- (mental note: stop installing red hat. everytime i do so, it takes ages to fix my system again.) -- from the sig of Martin Högman -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFwObbkVdEXeem148RAjr5AJ9b0KsF2T0rSvglhpF86r+ytJCnUQCeLBMa 7DP0ze+x4HHbngI93JKDOQU= =HuhZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jon Smirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: Re: RE: editor
Hi, On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:02:17 +0200, Marius Gedminas wrote: > Which, incidentally, is very handy when you have a laggy slow ssh connection. Indeed. It's the right tool for that job... As for programming, I prefer to have a more responsive connection :-) cheers, Danny ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: [telepathy] disconnect after sending message
You mean telephony right -- Your Tablet is not capable of ESP is it? ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telepathy On 1/31/07, booiiing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: missing word ... 2007/1/31, booiiing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > apart from the video-account, the same accounts work fine in gajim on > my pc and in telepathy and tapioca > on my 770. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: New OS 2006 firmware released
Zoran Kolic wrote: Antonio did a great job bringing Minimo to the 770, I wouldn't blame him if he didn't continue though. What do you use on 770: opera or minimo? I've tried built in opera and it must be set with swap enabled to work in a real time. Some sites ask to be seen in full graphic, for whatever reason. Zoran I use Opera on the 770 and N800, mainly because Minimo is so far from being finished. While Minimo works great with many sites, and is actually better on some sites than Opera, Minimo is nowhere near a finished product and is not usable as a "production" quality browser. With the December announcement by the main (only?) Minimo core developer it's now likely that Minimo will never be completed, which is a great shame. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: [telepathy] disconnect after sending message
missing word ... 2007/1/31, booiiing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: apart from the video-account, the same accounts work fine in gajim on my pc and in telepathy and tapioca on my 770. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] [telepathy] disconnect after sending message
Hi *, i experience disconnects in telepathy every time i send a line to someone. sometimes only the sending account is affected and reconnected within seconds, sometimes all accounts are disconnected and i need to set them to online manually. i have configured four regular jabber-accounts, my google-talk-account and the nokia video invitation beta. apart from the video-account, the same accounts work fine in gajim on my pc and in telepathy and on my 770. did i miss something or is this a bug? kind regards, booiiing ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Removing email client
how about a way to link that to GMail via the browser?? On 1/31/07, Priit Laes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey, Does anyone have information how to disable "View Inbox" and "New e-mail message" menu items under contacts menu? Because I didn't want to use the default email client, I decided to just simply remove it. PS. What is the progress on Modest? :) Cheers, Priit ;) -- Priit Laes http://plaes.org/blog ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Removing email client
Hey, Does anyone have information how to disable "View Inbox" and "New e-mail message" menu items under contacts menu? Because I didn't want to use the default email client, I decided to just simply remove it. PS. What is the progress on Modest? :) Cheers, Priit ;) -- Priit Laes http://plaes.org/blog ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 12:41:37PM -0500, Jon Smirl wrote: > On 1/31/07, Luca Donaggio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >That's exactly what I've done: I modified a powered hub to inject power to > >the N800 too. It used to work on the 770, but not on the N800, so maybe > >there's something else involved which I'm not aware of. > > They should have also made the N770/800 chargeable from the USB port. > That way you can avoid carrying a charger around and charge it from > your laptop or phone charger (most phones are switching to USB > charging). When you plug the USB cable, the Nokia tablets unmount the MMC card so that it could be exported via USB as a block device. It would be *very* annoying if I couldn't play mp3s from the MMC card while the tablet was being charged. Marius Gedminas -- (mental note: stop installing red hat. everytime i do so, it takes ages to fix my system again.) -- from the sig of Martin H�gman signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Safe removal of SD cards in bora?
Ah, never mind. Went back and formatted the card as FAT - and it plays nice now. Thanks for the help all, Josh On 1/31/07, Josh Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I had tried this, and I get an error message popping up "Memory card in use. Removing card may damage data. Close cover to continue using memory card." I don't have any programs running or anything accessing the card as far as I know, so this is a tad confusing. Anyone run into this? -Josh On 1/31/07, Tim Ashman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 01/31/2007 03:22, Jonathan Matthews-Levine wrote: > > On 1/31/07, Josh Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > Very sorry if I'm posting this to the incorrect list, similarly > sorry if > > > I am being dumb and overlooking the very obvious: How can I unmount > and > > > safely remove my SD cards on my N800 (without turning the device > totally > > > off)? I've looked in the memory manager, I've looked at the options > in > > > the file explorer app, and I've googled the matter online. > > > > The 'external' (i.e. not behind the battery) card is automatically > > unmounted when the exterior door holding it in is opened. > > > > Jonathan > > Wow! I just tried this and what a cool feature. It's features like this > that > make me wonder why others in the software/hardware business can't figure > this > stuff out. Nice job Nokia! > > tim > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] International character support
Hello all, I'm new to the list so I apologize if this is not the correct list for a question of this nature. I was wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to view international character sets, particularly Shift- JIS, on the web browser of the n800. I've went through the menus and see it's not listed in the encodings dialog. I also downloaded the minimo browser hoping it might have support but no luck. Is there a way I can add this somehow? Thanks! --Dan-- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Safe removal of SD cards in bora?
I had tried this, and I get an error message popping up "Memory card in use. Removing card may damage data. Close cover to continue using memory card." I don't have any programs running or anything accessing the card as far as I know, so this is a tad confusing. Anyone run into this? -Josh On 1/31/07, Tim Ashman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 01/31/2007 03:22, Jonathan Matthews-Levine wrote: > On 1/31/07, Josh Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Very sorry if I'm posting this to the incorrect list, similarly sorry if > > I am being dumb and overlooking the very obvious: How can I unmount and > > safely remove my SD cards on my N800 (without turning the device totally > > off)? I've looked in the memory manager, I've looked at the options in > > the file explorer app, and I've googled the matter online. > > The 'external' (i.e. not behind the battery) card is automatically > unmounted when the exterior door holding it in is opened. > > Jonathan Wow! I just tried this and what a cool feature. It's features like this that make me wonder why others in the software/hardware business can't figure this stuff out. Nice job Nokia! tim ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: [maemo-users] n800 and ThinkOutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard
Thanks, Jonathan. I haven't used the 'finger keyboard' much; will have to give that some more attention. Regards, Nick Shaw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Greene Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:53 AM To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: Albert Teixidó; Ty Hoffman; maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-users] n800 and ThinkOutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard I have not used the Nokia... The Think Outside has some quirks like pressing multiple function keys to get different button actions, but you get used to it. You can program some "macro-like" functions in the keyboard control panel so a combo on the keyboard brings up the apps screen for example. I find I really only use it in the Terminal or if I have a long email to type. There's a very slight delay in typing and what you see on screen, but once you get the feel it's quite smooth. Great for longer emails far quicker than the on-screen keyboard - though I am getting quite good with my thumbs now as well. On 1/31/07, Dr. Nicholas Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any comments/thoughts on which is better - the Nokia SU-8W BT Keyboard or > the ThinkOutside Stowaway BT keyboard? > > I see the ThinkOutside keyboard has a separate row for the numeric keys but > don't know how each works or functions. > Regards, > > Nick Shaw > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Albert Teixidó > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:10 AM > To: Ty Hoffman > Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org > Subject: Re: [maemo-users] n800 and ThinkOutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard > > Hi, > > I'm using the same keyboard and works well with the Nokia N800 and the > 105 keys keyboard setting. > > Press ctrl+leftFN+rightFn to make the keyboard visible (the green led > flashes). Go to the control panel / bluetooth / add device, and select > the keyboard when appears. The wizard shows a 4 digit key. Press "Ok" > and then type the key with the leftFn pressed. Finally, press Enter > without the Fn pressed. > > Albert > > Ty Hoffman escribió: > > hello, > >Anybody out there tried the n800 with the ThinkOutside > > bluetooth keyboard? Can't get it to work, and was hoping there is some > > trick to it. Tried the 'generic 105 key' keyboard setting... > > This keyboard worked with the 770 and the bt plugin. > > ___ > > maemo-users mailing list > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > -- > Albert Teixidó > Pub PGP key 0x0E16E76 Albert Teixidó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > at pgp.rediris.es > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
On 1/31/07, Luca Donaggio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's exactly what I've done: I modified a powered hub to inject power to the N800 too. It used to work on the 770, but not on the N800, so maybe there's something else involved which I'm not aware of. They should have also made the N770/800 chargeable from the USB port. That way you can avoid carrying a charger around and charge it from your laptop or phone charger (most phones are switching to USB charging). -- Jon Smirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Experience working with Maemo
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Re: [maemo-users] n800 and ThinkOutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard
Jonathan Greene wrote: same - pairing was the tricky part but if bluetooth is active (ahem) and I open the keyboard, it automatically connects and I am good to go. Worked on my 770 as well with the bluetooth plugin installed. On 1/31/07, Albert Teixidó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I'm using the same keyboard and works well with the Nokia N800 and the 105 keys keyboard setting. Press ctrl+leftFN+rightFn to make the keyboard visible (the green led flashes). Go to the control panel / bluetooth / add device, and select the keyboard when appears. The wizard shows a 4 digit key. Press "Ok" and then type the key with the leftFn pressed. Finally, press Enter without the Fn pressed. Albert Ty Hoffman escribió: > hello, >Anybody out there tried the n800 with the ThinkOutside > bluetooth keyboard? Can't get it to work, and was hoping there is some > trick to it. Tried the 'generic 105 key' keyboard setting... > This keyboard worked with the 770 and the bt plugin. > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Albert Teixidó Pub PGP key 0x0E16E76 Albert Teixidó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at pgp.rediris.es ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users It works! For some reason, I never would have thought to type in the pairing passcode. I had done every other step you suggested, except that. Duh! Thanks much! ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
2007/1/31, Jon Smirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 1/31/07, Luca Donaggio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anybody tried to use a USB keyboard (attached to a modified USB hub for > power injection, of course) with the N800 in USB host mode? > It doesn't work for me, keybord led doesn't even light up! There is no power supplied to the USB port. The only way to make it work is to plug a powered hub into the port and then plug the keyboard into the hub. I consider this a significant design flaw in the N800/770. It would really be nice if there was a small amount of power supplied to the USB port, just enough to run a keyboard or memory stick. Less than 100ma at 5V. Sure it will draw the batteries down but that is the price you pay. If you have the N800/770 on wall power the USB port should supply power all of the time. No power is also tied up in implementing the kernel USB OTG driver for the device. The spec says you can't advertise OTG support if the port has no power. -- Jon Smirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's exactly what I've done: I modified a powered hub to inject power to the N800 too. It used to work on the 770, but not on the N800, so maybe there's something else involved which I'm not aware of. Luca Donaggio ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
2007/1/31, Jon Smirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 1/31/07, Luca Donaggio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anybody tried to use a USB keyboard (attached to a modified USB hub for > power injection, of course) with the N800 in USB host mode? > It doesn't work for me, keybord led doesn't even light up! There is no power supplied to the USB port. The only way to make it work is to plug a powered hub into the port and then plug the keyboard into the hub. I consider this a significant design flaw in the N800/770. It would really be nice if there was a small amount of power supplied to the USB port, just enough to run a keyboard or memory stick. Less than 100ma at 5V. Sure it will draw the batteries down but that is the price you pay. If you have the N800/770 on wall power the USB port should supply power all of the time. No power is also tied up in implementing the kernel USB OTG driver for the device. The spec says you can't advertise OTG support if the port has no power. -- Jon Smirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
On 1/31/07, Luca Donaggio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anybody tried to use a USB keyboard (attached to a modified USB hub for power injection, of course) with the N800 in USB host mode? It doesn't work for me, keybord led doesn't even light up! There is no power supplied to the USB port. The only way to make it work is to plug a powered hub into the port and then plug the keyboard into the hub. I consider this a significant design flaw in the N800/770. It would really be nice if there was a small amount of power supplied to the USB port, just enough to run a keyboard or memory stick. Less than 100ma at 5V. Sure it will draw the batteries down but that is the price you pay. If you have the N800/770 on wall power the USB port should supply power all of the time. No power is also tied up in implementing the kernel USB OTG driver for the device. The spec says you can't advertise OTG support if the port has no power. -- Jon Smirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
PSP Keyboard? If you mean the PlayStation Portable then is there one? Andy On Wednesday, January 31, 2007, at 04:47PM, "Kahlil Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I read on a tutorial on the web that you can use the PSP keyboard. I >think the tutorial is on youtube. > >On 1/31/07, Luca Donaggio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Does anybody tried to use a USB keyboard (attached to a modified USB hub for >> power injection, of course) with the N800 in USB host mode? >> It doesn't work for me, keybord led doesn't even light up! >> >> Luca Donaggio >> >> ___ >> maemo-users mailing list >> maemo-users@maemo.org >> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >> >> > > >-- >Kahlil Johnson >"Ya tengo GMAIL!!" >___ >maemo-users mailing list >maemo-users@maemo.org >https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] n800 and ThinkOutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard
I have not used the Nokia... The Think Outside has some quirks like pressing multiple function keys to get different button actions, but you get used to it. You can program some "macro-like" functions in the keyboard control panel so a combo on the keyboard brings up the apps screen for example. I find I really only use it in the Terminal or if I have a long email to type. There's a very slight delay in typing and what you see on screen, but once you get the feel it's quite smooth. Great for longer emails far quicker than the on-screen keyboard - though I am getting quite good with my thumbs now as well. On 1/31/07, Dr. Nicholas Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Any comments/thoughts on which is better - the Nokia SU-8W BT Keyboard or the ThinkOutside Stowaway BT keyboard? I see the ThinkOutside keyboard has a separate row for the numeric keys but don't know how each works or functions. Regards, Nick Shaw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert Teixidó Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:10 AM To: Ty Hoffman Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-users] n800 and ThinkOutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard Hi, I'm using the same keyboard and works well with the Nokia N800 and the 105 keys keyboard setting. Press ctrl+leftFN+rightFn to make the keyboard visible (the green led flashes). Go to the control panel / bluetooth / add device, and select the keyboard when appears. The wizard shows a 4 digit key. Press "Ok" and then type the key with the leftFn pressed. Finally, press Enter without the Fn pressed. Albert Ty Hoffman escribió: > hello, >Anybody out there tried the n800 with the ThinkOutside > bluetooth keyboard? Can't get it to work, and was hoping there is some > trick to it. Tried the 'generic 105 key' keyboard setting... > This keyboard worked with the 770 and the bt plugin. > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Albert Teixidó Pub PGP key 0x0E16E76 Albert Teixidó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at pgp.rediris.es ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
I read on a tutorial on the web that you can use the PSP keyboard. I think the tutorial is on youtube. On 1/31/07, Luca Donaggio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anybody tried to use a USB keyboard (attached to a modified USB hub for power injection, of course) with the N800 in USB host mode? It doesn't work for me, keybord led doesn't even light up! Luca Donaggio ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Kahlil Johnson "Ya tengo GMAIL!!" ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: [maemo-users] n800 and ThinkOutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard
Any comments/thoughts on which is better - the Nokia SU-8W BT Keyboard or the ThinkOutside Stowaway BT keyboard? I see the ThinkOutside keyboard has a separate row for the numeric keys but don't know how each works or functions. Regards, Nick Shaw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert Teixidó Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:10 AM To: Ty Hoffman Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-users] n800 and ThinkOutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard Hi, I'm using the same keyboard and works well with the Nokia N800 and the 105 keys keyboard setting. Press ctrl+leftFN+rightFn to make the keyboard visible (the green led flashes). Go to the control panel / bluetooth / add device, and select the keyboard when appears. The wizard shows a 4 digit key. Press "Ok" and then type the key with the leftFn pressed. Finally, press Enter without the Fn pressed. Albert Ty Hoffman escribió: > hello, >Anybody out there tried the n800 with the ThinkOutside > bluetooth keyboard? Can't get it to work, and was hoping there is some > trick to it. Tried the 'generic 105 key' keyboard setting... > This keyboard worked with the 770 and the bt plugin. > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Albert Teixidó Pub PGP key 0x0E16E76 Albert Teixidó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at pgp.rediris.es ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
Does anybody tried to use a USB keyboard (attached to a modified USB hub for power injection, of course) with the N800 in USB host mode? It doesn't work for me, keybord led doesn't even light up! Luca Donaggio ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] n800 and ThinkOutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard
same - pairing was the tricky part but if bluetooth is active (ahem) and I open the keyboard, it automatically connects and I am good to go. Worked on my 770 as well with the bluetooth plugin installed. On 1/31/07, Albert Teixidó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I'm using the same keyboard and works well with the Nokia N800 and the 105 keys keyboard setting. Press ctrl+leftFN+rightFn to make the keyboard visible (the green led flashes). Go to the control panel / bluetooth / add device, and select the keyboard when appears. The wizard shows a 4 digit key. Press "Ok" and then type the key with the leftFn pressed. Finally, press Enter without the Fn pressed. Albert Ty Hoffman escribió: > hello, >Anybody out there tried the n800 with the ThinkOutside > bluetooth keyboard? Can't get it to work, and was hoping there is some > trick to it. Tried the 'generic 105 key' keyboard setting... > This keyboard worked with the 770 and the bt plugin. > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Albert Teixidó Pub PGP key 0x0E16E76 Albert Teixidó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at pgp.rediris.es ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: Cannot mount an ext2 partition
> I've created a new partition on my RSMMC with sfdisk (from the tablet). > I've got two partitions, one formatted as vfat and the other one as ext2. > I've successfully mounted the vfat one. But I haven't been able to mount the > ext2 one. You should load ext2 module. Zoran ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: New OS 2006 firmware released
> Antonio did a great job bringing Minimo to the 770, I wouldn't blame him if > he didn't continue though. What do you use on 770: opera or minimo? I've tried built in opera and it must be set with swap enabled to work in a real time. Some sites ask to be seen in full graphic, for whatever reason. Zoran ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Safe removal of SD cards in bora?
On 01/31/2007 03:22, Jonathan Matthews-Levine wrote: > On 1/31/07, Josh Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Very sorry if I'm posting this to the incorrect list, similarly sorry if > > I am being dumb and overlooking the very obvious: How can I unmount and > > safely remove my SD cards on my N800 (without turning the device totally > > off)? I've looked in the memory manager, I've looked at the options in > > the file explorer app, and I've googled the matter online. > > The 'external' (i.e. not behind the battery) card is automatically > unmounted when the exterior door holding it in is opened. > > Jonathan Wow! I just tried this and what a cool feature. It's features like this that make me wonder why others in the software/hardware business can't figure this stuff out. Nice job Nokia! tim ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] N800 as e-book reader
seemed fine though I did not run any real tests... Just read a few pages. Pages flowed easily On 1/31/07, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 07:32:53PM -0500, Jonathan Greene wrote: > I've now installed Evince on my N800 and it rocks! I'd love to see a > few prefs for background color especially (which can make long texts > much easier on the eyes) but overall, it's amazingly good and quick at > presenting PDF. I've just downloaded the Art of War from > ManyBooks.net and it's well formatted and easy to read. How's the memory usage? That was the biggest flaw with Evince on the 770: after looking at three/four pages it would run out of memory. Marius Gedminas -- Be cheerful. Strive to be happy Oh, and we just set fire to your desktop. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFwI6KkVdEXeem148RAlmFAJ9ok0kkD92JeK4w/KsdY3NWmU0J+gCe PhUL 0hp0Bw6h5FXcnt9BaFhDRfI= =XR7S -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users lman/listinfo/maemo-users lman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Safe removal of SD cards in bora?
And the 'internal' card is automatically unmounted when you remove the battery cover (there's a magnetic mechanism there) On 1/31/07, Jonathan Matthews-Levine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/31/07, Josh Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > Very sorry if I'm posting this to the incorrect list, similarly sorry if I > am being dumb and overlooking the very obvious: How can I unmount and safely > remove my SD cards on my N800 (without turning the device totally off)? I've > looked in the memory manager, I've looked at the options in the file > explorer app, and I've googled the matter online. The 'external' (i.e. not behind the battery) card is automatically unmounted when the exterior door holding it in is opened. Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews-Levine|[EMAIL PROTECTED] "That sounds vaguely obscene, and if there's one thing I cannot *stand*, it's vagueness." -- Dean Grennell ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Kemal ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] N800 as e-book reader
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 07:32:53PM -0500, Jonathan Greene wrote: > I've now installed Evince on my N800 and it rocks! I'd love to see a > few prefs for background color especially (which can make long texts > much easier on the eyes) but overall, it's amazingly good and quick at > presenting PDF. I've just downloaded the Art of War from > ManyBooks.net and it's well formatted and easy to read. How's the memory usage? That was the biggest flaw with Evince on the 770: after looking at three/four pages it would run out of memory. Marius Gedminas -- Be cheerful. Strive to be happy Oh, and we just set fire to your desktop. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] [maemo-announce] New OS 2006 firmware released
Also, on a mobile device, it's much more likely that the battery runs out, or drops out (if user is a bit thoughtless). If this happens when you're running dist-upgrade, you've bricked your device. Well, not really.. you can still flash it. Or reboot from memory card and continue thru chroot or.. Also before such update the battery level could be verified. If the updates come out 2-3 times a year, the update could be done from memorycard so all the prelinked files would be updated. Also niced prelink afterwards could take care of the rest, thus prelinking also user installed software. (is it done now?) I understand there is much more probable that the update doesn't run smoothly when people have had time to f**k up the system more or less freely. This creates many possibilities that the base system just doesn't run after update like it should do. Flashing is easy way to bypass this problem thus causing other inconviniences But what comes to developers and consumers wanting convinience.. I have to say reinstalling all the software is way too time consuming even when automated. Of course when API's change and versions jump like 2.1 to 3.0 you just need to reinstall everything but when changes are smaller "apt-get upgrade" should do the trick. I think installing the base system from debs would take less time than installing all the programs I currently have installed. Except maybe for the time taken to do backup & restore, re-flashing the device is both faster and easier than dist-upgrade. The backup & restore could be improved somewhat, especially in regards to application installer though. Automatic restoring of packages after reflashing could be risky though. I have made small scripts for these nasty reflashing situations. If there is intrest I could clean up the scripts and release. I think there might be.. maybe I'll clean them anyways. Scripts aren't be anything nice and smooth they just "works for me". The way it works is that I first run normal backup, then backup /home and /etc/apt/ and finally run "dpkg --get-selections > selections.txt" to get package states and move all of this to the memorycard. I also have saved all manually downloaded packages on the memorycard. After reflash I return the stuff with small automated script run when I install an deb from memorycard. I have maemo-launcher kept back so running "dpkg --set-selections < selections.txt; apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" goes more or less smoothly if there isn't too many packages to install (space runs out). Only those dialogs asking for location in the menu stop the automation. Manually installed packages I have installed rather ugly way "dpkg -i *deb; apt-get -f install" (latter is to solve dependencies with libraries). Actual list of user installed programs is solvable (exclude base system and user installed dependencies) If (when?) repositories would be just one central repository then after flash and restore of backup the repository url could just be changed: "deb http://repository.maemo.org/ 3.2" would change to "deb http://repository.maemo.org/ 3.3". And by running the list of software installed before thru apt-get we would have updated system running. Now with the central repository all the existing programs could be compiled in the darkness for the new system/OS. And when ever the always mysterious corporation would release, there would be programs waiting unlike now with the 770 to n800 change or earlier API updates. -- VRe :: http://iki.fi/vre ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: [maemo-users] [maemo-announce] New OS 2006 firmware released
>From nokia >consumer product point of view, perhaps this is not their >issues, since they expect users to just buy the tablet and use >without 3rd party software. Just to clarify, we expect (and encourage) users to install 3rd party software. See the Maemo effort and the progress being done making easier to end-users to find applications and install them. Upgrading is a known problem, yes. The perfect solution is to be implemented yet. Upgrading via packages and repositories is not exempt of trouble and risks for end-users either, as other .deb based developers know. Nokia Internet Tablets come with a warranty that goes far beyond the warranties Debian or Ubuntu distributions offer to their users. Only this small detail changes completely our picture. Then you can go through other details about user experience and technical aspects. PS: I'm not saying option A or B is better, I'm just trying to stress why things aren't as simple as they might look from your perspective. -- Quim Gil Maemo team ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] [maemo-announce] New OS 2006 firmware released
Eero Tamminen schrieb: > Note that for performance reasons the binaries & libraries on the > device are prelinked. This is not automatically done when some > package is updated (would take too long time etc). I.e. with the > central library package update, your device will get slower + use more > Flash and RAM. It may take long, but... > Also, on a mobile device, it's much more likely that the battery runs > out, or drops out (if user is a bit thoughtless). If this happens when > you're running dist-upgrade, you've bricked your device. ...one can make sure that "apt-get dist-upgrade" and similar tasks stop or complain if the device is running on battery. This would enforce major package changes to users with chargers plugged into the device. I still believe that incremental upgrades to the system are the way to go. With a flash image ready just in case the upgrades go wrong or the user wants to make a fresh start. Regards, Hanno ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: [maemo-users] Feature Suggestion
>Agreed. UI guidelines are desirable and practical. >We have a clear gap in this area. We can work improving, though. There is a start at http://www.maemo.org/community/hildon_ui.html http://www.maemo.org/community/UI_Style_Guide_Summary_2.0.pdf If you have suggestions on needed content please let us know (if you already did in the past please provide links, thank you). PS: this is a developer topic, please keep it in the developers list - thanks again. -- Quim Gil Maemo team ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] [maemo-announce] New OS 2006 firmware released
Eero Tamminen schrieb: > Debian is not a "consumer" distribution, it's a "developer" > / "Linux user" distribution. I disagree that Debian is a developer or "linux user only" distribution. My company uses it for production work since five years. But that's a matter of taste, I guess. However, Ubuntu is a consumer distribution based on Debian's package management. It works quite nicely, /is/ consumer-friendly and you can update its packages and major distribution releases incrementally, withouth having to "reflash" / reinstall the OS for each major update of the base distribution. Regards, Hanno ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Safe removal of SD cards in bora?
On 1/31/07, Josh Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, Very sorry if I'm posting this to the incorrect list, similarly sorry if I am being dumb and overlooking the very obvious: How can I unmount and safely remove my SD cards on my N800 (without turning the device totally off)? I've looked in the memory manager, I've looked at the options in the file explorer app, and I've googled the matter online. The 'external' (i.e. not behind the battery) card is automatically unmounted when the exterior door holding it in is opened. Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews-Levine|[EMAIL PROTECTED] "That sounds vaguely obscene, and if there's one thing I cannot *stand*, it's vagueness." -- Dean Grennell ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] [maemo-announce] New OS 2006 firmware released
hi, why not implement something like having the post-installed softwares on the MMC (yes, i am aware of the speed issue) so that we can just flash the what-so-ever firmware updates, and still be able to use directly the installed software straight with little tweaking (perhaps updates for these software are needed). the issue is not about flashing the firmware for me, but the reinstallation of *all* softwares all over again. From nokia consumer product point of view, perhaps this is not their issues, since they expect users to just buy the tablet and use without 3rd party software. But i would assume otherwise, where users will automatically have some 3rd party softwares, and they will hate reinstalling them over and over again everytime after a (re)flash. regards, wahlau On 31/01/07, Simon Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Except maybe for the time taken to do backup & restore, re-flashing >the device is both faster and easier than dist-upgrade. The backup & >restore could be improved somewhat, especially in regards to application >installer though. Automatic restoring of packages after reflashing >could be risky though. How about in the backup storing a list of apps that were installed from repositories and the repository list, then post flash offer to reinstall some/all of the apps from the repositories - less likely to break and less space needed for backup. (I assume there is some way apps can have their settings stored/restored in the backup by saving them in a place backedup/restored by the utility). Regards Simon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.16/660 - Release Date: 30/01/2007 17:04 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] [maemo-announce] New OS 2006 firmware released
Except maybe for the time taken to do backup & restore, re-flashing the device is both faster and easier than dist-upgrade. The backup & restore could be improved somewhat, especially in regards to application installer though. Automatic restoring of packages after reflashing could be risky though. How about in the backup storing a list of apps that were installed from repositories and the repository list, then post flash offer to reinstall some/all of the apps from the repositories - less likely to break and less space needed for backup. (I assume there is some way apps can have their settings stored/restored in the backup by saving them in a place backedup/restored by the utility). Regards Simon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.16/660 - Release Date: 30/01/2007 17:04 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] [maemo-announce] New OS 2006 firmware released
Hi, (this is not an official comment on anything, just my personal opinions) ext Gavin O' Gorman wrote: On 1/30/07, Karl Bellve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Personally, I wish Nokia would have went with thunderbird and firefox that could be improved by the outside community. Instead, they went with buggy pieces of proprietary code that Nokia can't seem to fix on its own. My other big complaint is that the entire device has to be reflashed in order to run the new version of the OS. Why can't they update different pieces, like the browser, or the kernel? Since the browser and flash player hasn't been updated, I don't think I will update my Nokia 770. I think some of the reasons are: - Licence restrictions - Hardware changes between the devices and dependencies on these - API changes between the different releases (sometimes just reflecting the different hardware, sometimes for other reasons). You can read more on this from here: http://maemo.org/maemowiki/Os2007On770 - Supporting mixing and matching of different package versions would explode the (already very large) required testing effort. - If you really want to upgrade (a small subset of the components) to the very latest versions, you can do that using the development etc repositories (sardine/herring/bora etc). However, this is not supported for obvious reasons and you *will* need to reflash your device occasionally *when* (not if) things break These things will improve with time as both Open Source components and Maemo platform mature and the gap between them can diminish. I agree wholeheartedly with these points ! I would extend them further to ask why the 770 OS cannot be as open as a standard debian distribution. (assuming you still refer to package updates) Debian is not a "consumer" distribution, it's a "developer" / "Linux user" distribution. Debian way would mean users doing largest part of testing, finding and reporting the bugs instead of Nokia, right? You know, these devices are not viable if they remain hacker devices, they're supposed to be consumer device and consumers are not interested in testing things, they want things to work when they buy a device. More on package updates as a general strategy below... That is, comprised of a standard kernel that gets the device up and running, with proprietary drivers available as binary .debs. All the various applications distributed and installable as seperate .debs. This way unwanted applications can be removed, for example, the ridiculous email client etc. Kernels should be upgradable with a simple apt-get, the package management mess should be cleaned up and fixed. I'm not saying this would be impossible, but there are still a lot of unsolved issues in this which are not solved in Open Source. Note that for performance reasons the binaries & libraries on the device are prelinked. This is not automatically done when some package is updated (would take too long time etc). I.e. with the central library package update, your device will get slower + use more Flash and RAM. Also, on a mobile device, it's much more likely that the battery runs out, or drops out (if user is a bit thoughtless). If this happens when you're running dist-upgrade, you've bricked your device. On a mobile device it can easily happen that there's not enough free space to do dist-upgrade. I haven't tested it, but I don't think dpkg/apt handle dist-upgrade running out of space. Once again, consumer would have bricked her device. Except maybe for the time taken to do backup & restore, re-flashing the device is both faster and easier than dist-upgrade. The backup & restore could be improved somewhat, especially in regards to application installer though. Automatic restoring of packages after reflashing could be risky though. The advantage of opensource is in its flexibility and customisation. Nokia have negated this by imposing a very rigid structure around the 770. That's fine in itself, but don't pitch the device as opensource and be surprised when people get annoyed with the lack of control they have over it. Luckily for me, the one application I use very regularly, the opensource FBreader, is highly stable. Otherwise I'd get very annoyed with the device. - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] n800 and ThinkOutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard
Hi, I'm using the same keyboard and works well with the Nokia N800 and the 105 keys keyboard setting. Press ctrl+leftFN+rightFn to make the keyboard visible (the green led flashes). Go to the control panel / bluetooth / add device, and select the keyboard when appears. The wizard shows a 4 digit key. Press "Ok" and then type the key with the leftFn pressed. Finally, press Enter without the Fn pressed. Albert Ty Hoffman escribió: hello, Anybody out there tried the n800 with the ThinkOutside bluetooth keyboard? Can't get it to work, and was hoping there is some trick to it. Tried the 'generic 105 key' keyboard setting... This keyboard worked with the 770 and the bt plugin. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Albert Teixidó Pub PGP key 0x0E16E76 Albert Teixidó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at pgp.rediris.es ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Safe removal of SD cards in bora?
Hi all, Very sorry if I'm posting this to the incorrect list, similarly sorry if I am being dumb and overlooking the very obvious: How can I unmount and safely remove my SD cards on my N800 (without turning the device totally off)? I've looked in the memory manager, I've looked at the options in the file explorer app, and I've googled the matter online. I'm at a loss! Any pearls of wisdom that will make me smack my forehead and wonder how I missed something so obvious would be very welcome. This seems like one of those basic things that is just eluding me. Also, I have heard there has been success with 4GB SD cards, has there been any with 8 gig cards? SDHC in general? Thank you, Josh Harrison ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: Cannot mount an ext2 partition
YEEES, I got it. Just forgot to add ext2 modules to the kernel: / # insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/current/ext2.ko Now it works fine: / # mount /media/mmc2 As can be shown in these results: / # cat /etc/mtab ... /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/mmc1 vfat utf8,uid=2,shortname=mixed 0 0 /dev/mmcblk0p2 /media/mmc2 ext2 errors=remount-ro 0 0 / # df -h Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted_on ... /dev/mmcblk0p1 468.5M 64.0M 404.5M 14% /media/mmc1 /dev/mmcblk0p2 495.1M 13.0k 469.5M 0% /media/mmc2 This is GREAT. But now comes the big question: How can I use this ext2 partition to extend my rootfs. That is, I want to install apps in my MMC, not in my 770 internal memory. I think it can be done by linking files and directories to the 770. But could somebody explain me how? BTW, I've also read something about "unions"... What's the best option? Salut. Sebas. 2007/1/31, sebastian maemo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -- Hi, I've created a new partition on my RSMMC with sfdisk (from the tablet). I've got two partitions, one formatted as vfat and the other one as ext2. I've successfully mounted the vfat one. But I haven't been able to mount the ext2 one. These results may help to understand: / # sfdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 31360 cylinders, 4 heads, 16 sectors/track Units = cylinders of 32768 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0 Device Boot Start End #cyls #blocks Id System /dev/mmcblk0p1 1 15000 15000 48 6 FAT16 /dev/mmcblk0p2 15001 31359 16359 523488 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p3 0+ 0 1- 31+ 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p4 0 - 0 0 0 Empty / # fsck.ext2 /dev/mmcblk0p2 e2fsck 1.37 (21-Mar-2005) /dev/mmcblk0p2: clean, 11/131072 files, 16553/523488 blocks / # cat /etc/fstab rootfs / rootfs defaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime 0 0 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/mmc1 vfat rw,noauto,nodev,noexec,nosuid,utf8,uid=2 0 0 /dev/mmcblk0p2 /media/mmc2 ext2 defaults, errors=remount-ro, noatime 0 0 / # cat /etc/mtab rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0 /dev/root /mnt/initfs jffs2 rw 0 0 none /mnt/initfs/proc proc rw 0 0 none /mnt/initfs/sys sysfs rw 0 0 none /mnt/initfs/tmp tmpfs rw 0 0 /dev/mtdblock4 / jffs2 rw,rpsize=1024,rpuid=0,rpuid=3 0 0 none /tmp tmpfs rw 0 0 /proc /proc proc rw 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0 usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0 none /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts rw 0 0 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/mmc1 vfat utf8,uid=2,shortname=mixed 0 0 /media/mmc2 # mount /media/mmc2 mount: Mounting /dev/mmcblk0p2 on /media/mmc2 failed: No such device /media/mmc2 # mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 mount: Mounting /dev/mmcblk0p2 on /media/mmc2 failed: No such device Could anybody help me? Please ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Cannot mount an ext2 partition
-- Hi, I've created a new partition on my RSMMC with sfdisk (from the tablet). I've got two partitions, one formatted as vfat and the other one as ext2. I've successfully mounted the vfat one. But I haven't been able to mount the ext2 one. These results may help to understand: / # sfdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 31360 cylinders, 4 heads, 16 sectors/track Units = cylinders of 32768 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0 Device Boot Start End #cyls #blocks Id System /dev/mmcblk0p1 1 15000 15000 48 6 FAT16 /dev/mmcblk0p2 15001 31359 16359 523488 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p3 0+ 0 1- 31+ 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p4 0 - 0 0 0 Empty / # fsck.ext2 /dev/mmcblk0p2 e2fsck 1.37 (21-Mar-2005) /dev/mmcblk0p2: clean, 11/131072 files, 16553/523488 blocks / # cat /etc/fstab rootfs / rootfs defaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime 0 0 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/mmc1 vfat rw,noauto,nodev,noexec,nosuid,utf8,uid=2 0 0 /dev/mmcblk0p2 /media/mmc2 ext2 defaults, errors=remount-ro, noatime 0 0 / # cat /etc/mtab rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0 /dev/root /mnt/initfs jffs2 rw 0 0 none /mnt/initfs/proc proc rw 0 0 none /mnt/initfs/sys sysfs rw 0 0 none /mnt/initfs/tmp tmpfs rw 0 0 /dev/mtdblock4 / jffs2 rw,rpsize=1024,rpuid=0,rpuid=3 0 0 none /tmp tmpfs rw 0 0 /proc /proc proc rw 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0 usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0 none /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts rw 0 0 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/mmc1 vfat utf8,uid=2,shortname=mixed 0 0 /media/mmc2 # mount /media/mmc2 mount: Mounting /dev/mmcblk0p2 on /media/mmc2 failed: No such device /media/mmc2 # mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 mount: Mounting /dev/mmcblk0p2 on /media/mmc2 failed: No such device Could anybody help me? Please... ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] JAVA for the 770
Thank you, pals. That's very reconforting. 2007/1/30, Larry Battraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: It's not that big a deal, we all make mistakes :-) If nothing else it stimulated discussion and peoples' interest in something that has not been worked much at all. Mostly a lot of complaining, not too much action, so it's nice to see people get involved and try new stuff. Larry On 1/29/07, sebastian maemo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm so sorry... Really, I'm terribly ashamed. My Java experiment didn't work > properly. It was just a misunderstanding. It is true that the online banking > pages started to work good after installing that JVM, but it was a > coincidence. I've tested it and realized that those online banks don't run > java applets on their sites. What really happened is that after installing > the minimo, java and other related packages, I probably updated a damaged > library that blocked me from entering those banking sites previously to the > JVM installation. > > Fucking idiot (I am). > > > 2007/1/27, Larry Battraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On 1/26/07, sebastian maemo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Wahlau: > > > > > (snip) > > > > > > So you run your pre-installed browser (that is an Opera version), and go to > > > the maps.google.com webpage. You don't need to install anything. If you wait > > > a few seconds for the webpage to download, you'll see the typical map view > > > and even satellite or hybrid view if you like. > > > > I think we may have a misunderstanding here. Google Maps is based on > > JavaScript --no relation to Java-- and works without a JVM. I have a > > 770 that has been freshly flashed which shows Google Maps just fine. > > > > Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
