Re: [maemo-users] n800 wont boot anymore
It's not the battery. The output voltage i measured looks fine. Is there something like a hard-reset? Or any other way to reflash it? Sebi On 2/1/07, Sebi Ryffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll do that. Tomorrow i try to charge the battery a bit Thanks for your help. On 2/1/07, Paul Klapperich < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You could try leaving it plugged in for a few hours to find out. Even > with the battery totally drained I think the screen should still light up > and display the battery icon, though. You might want to exchange it where > you bought it or call Nokia about warranty work. > > Was the charger plugged into a surge suppressor? Maybe it took a hit > when it was plugged in the other night. > > -- Paul > > On 2/1/07, Sebi Ryffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Thanks for the quick reply. But It's not that easy. The screen > > remains black all the time no matter what buttons i press or cables i plug > > in. _Nothing_ happens: no screen, no led, no usb... > > > > I can not reflash it, because no communication over usb is possible. > > Is it possible, that the battery drained totally? > > > > Sebi > > > > > > > > On 2/1/07, Paul Klapperich < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > What exactly happens when you try to turn it on? Does the Nokia logo > > > appear on the screen? Does the desktop eventually? Does the screen remain > > > black the whole time? How about the LED around the 5-way navigator? Does > > > this lightup as your pressing the power button waiting for it to boot? More > > > information would be very handy. > > > > > > My gut reaction is that you'll have to reflash it, but it might need > > > warranty work, or it could be something simple. > > > Information about reflashing is here: > > > http://www.nokiausa.com/support/phones/softwareupdate/1,8461,N800,00.html > > > > > > > > > Reflashing will restore it to factory condition, so you will loose > > > any software/data stored on the device. Anything on your MMC will be safe. > > > > > > --Paul > > > > > > On 2/1/07, Sebi Ryffel < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > I bought a n800 a coupe of weeks ago and I'm quite happy with it. > > > > > > > > But yesterday I left it charging over night and in the morning the > > > > display was black. Now it wont boot anymore! I tried everything: removed the > > > > battery, pressed all kinds of buttons, plugged the usb-cable and/or charger > > > > in > > > > > > > > Does anyone know what to do? How could i reanimate it? > > > > > > > > Sebi > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > maemo-users mailing list > > > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] [maemo-announce] New OS 2006 firmware released
My other big complaint is that the entire device has to be reflashed in order to run the new version of the OS. Why can't they update different pieces, like the browser, or the kernel? Since the browser and flash player hasn't been updated, I don't think I will update my Nokia 770. Fine grained updates might happen at some point. We've been experimenting for some time in Sardine - an apt based distro that relies on component upgrading. Sardine has had the useful "side-benefit" of exposing defects (primarily packaging) in our components preventing upgrades, and many have been fixed. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Smart Bluetooth keyboard n800
Has anyone had any luck getting the cheap-o smart bluetooth type keyboards working on the n800? I foolishly bought one, not realizing that the "Universal bluetooth keyboard" didn't use the UNIVERSAL HID profile. Silly me. I scrounged around and found a tutorial for installing kbdd on the 770, but I can't execute the scripts on my n800, even though I'm root, and I chmoded everything to play nice. I'm trying to pry an RMA outta the people I bought it from, as I think it was misrepresented to me, but who knows if they'll give me one. If I get one, I'm buying a ThinkOutside. -Josh ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] [maemo-announce] New OS 2006 firmware released
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 02:16:28 Eero Tamminen wrote: > Hi, > > (this is not an official comment on anything, just my personal opinions) > > ext Gavin O' Gorman wrote: > > On 1/30/07, Karl Bellve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Personally, I wish Nokia would have went with thunderbird and firefox > >> that could be improved by the outside community. Instead, they went with > >> buggy pieces of proprietary code that Nokia can't seem to fix on its > >> own. > >> > >> My other big complaint is that the entire device has to be reflashed in > >> order to run the new version of the OS. Why can't they update different > >> pieces, like the browser, or the kernel? Since the browser and flash > >> player hasn't been updated, I don't think I will update my Nokia 770. > > I think some of the reasons are: > - Licence restrictions > - Hardware changes between the devices and dependencies on these > - API changes between the different releases (sometimes just reflecting >the different hardware, sometimes for other reasons). You can read >more on this from here: >http://maemo.org/maemowiki/Os2007On770 > - Supporting mixing and matching of different package versions >would explode the (already very large) required testing effort. Why I'm curious do you think this would be any worse than dealing with Debian in the desktop world? debs are very capable of handling this kind of conflict, for example you couldn't using apt install an amd64 compiled deb onto a x86 compiled OS. >- If you really want to upgrade (a small subset of the components) to > the very latest versions, you can do that using the development etc > repositories (sardine/herring/bora etc). However, this is not > supported for obvious reasons and you *will* need to reflash your > device occasionally *when* (not if) things break In my case there are things I'd remove rather than mix and match. In short freeing up room for things I do want. > > These things will improve with time as both Open Source components > and Maemo platform mature and the gap between them can diminish. > > > I agree wholeheartedly with these points ! I would extend them further > > to ask why the 770 OS cannot be as open as a standard debian > > distribution. > > (assuming you still refer to package updates) > > Debian is not a "consumer" distribution, it's a "developer" > / "Linux user" distribution. > > Debian way would mean users doing largest part of testing, finding and > reporting the bugs instead of Nokia, right? You know, these devices > are not viable if they remain hacker devices, they're supposed to be > consumer device and consumers are not interested in testing things, > they want things to work when they buy a device. More on package > updates as a general strategy below... > > > That is, comprised of a standard kernel that gets the device up and > > running, with proprietary drivers available as binary .debs. All the > > various applications distributed and installable as seperate .debs. > > This way unwanted applications can be removed, for example, the > > ridiculous email client etc. Kernels should be upgradable with a > > simple apt-get, the package management mess should be cleaned up and > > fixed. > > I'm not saying this would be impossible, but there are still a lot > of unsolved issues in this which are not solved in Open Source. > > Note that for performance reasons the binaries & libraries on the > device are prelinked. This is not automatically done when some > package is updated (would take too long time etc). I.e. with the > central library package update, your device will get slower + use more > Flash and RAM. > > Also, on a mobile device, it's much more likely that the battery runs > out, or drops out (if user is a bit thoughtless). If this happens when > you're running dist-upgrade, you've bricked your device. > > On a mobile device it can easily happen that there's not enough free > space to do dist-upgrade. I haven't tested it, but I don't think > dpkg/apt handle dist-upgrade running out of space. Once again, > consumer would have bricked her device. > > Except maybe for the time taken to do backup & restore, re-flashing > the device is both faster and easier than dist-upgrade. The backup & > restore could be improved somewhat, especially in regards to application > installer though. Automatic restoring of packages after reflashing > could be risky though. > > > The advantage of opensource is in its flexibility and customisation. > > Nokia have negated this by imposing a very rigid structure around the > > 770. That's fine in itself, but don't pitch the device as opensource > > and be surprised when people get annoyed with the lack of control they > > have over it. > > > > Luckily for me, the one application I use very regularly, the > > opensource FBreader, is highly stable. Otherwise I'd get very annoyed > > with the device. > > - Eero > > ___
Re: [maemo-users] Re: New OS 2006 firmware released
I actually fnd the browser to be much more stable than on the 770 and aside from flash weakness is really quite good. Can't say I would not like to see a webkit adaptation like on my s60v3 phones though. Viewing in full screen very naturally displays the pages I visit. If we had a bit more horsepower under the hood, I'm sure the more complex ajax stuff would work better as well. On 2/1/07, Anuj Verma (Kevin) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:56:31 +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote: I use links, but would like to hear is minimo better than opera in base? > How it compare in ram and stability? Is there a package of elinks for N800, any url ? /kevin ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users /maemo-users /maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Podcasts on n800
sure is... https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=170 install wget first, then gpodder. When you launch gpodder it takes a moment, but loads and you can then add you podcast urls. What we need now is a tool like Andrew's vidconvert (hint hint) that can reencode video podcast downloads to work on the tablet. Most are optimized for iPod in either h.264 or .mp4 neither of which will play. On 2/1/07, Sergey Udaltsov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jonathan, Is there bundled gpodder for maemo? Or at least some howto you followed? Sergey On 2/1/07, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > just got gpodder installed myself and so far so good. Downloading > MOTR - http://feeds.feedburner.com/motr/ - as I tap this out! > > On 2/1/07, Sergey Udaltsov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Jonathan. I will look at gpodder and see whether it > would work for me... > > > > Sergey > > > > On 2/1/07, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Not sure if you direct on device or sync. Gpodder in garage > looks > > > like it might do the direct trick. > > > > > > I have sync working on the mac with itunes - > > > http://www.atmasphere. > net/wp/archives/2007/01/25/synctunes-smart-content-for-your-nokia > -n800 > > > > > > in the comment is a link to a pc tool as well. > > > > > > On 2/1/07, Sergey Udaltsov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > What would be the best way to listen to podcasts on N800? > Any software > > > > available for this purpose? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Sergey > > > > > ___ > > > > maemo-users mailing list > > > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > > > > > nfo/maemo-users > > > > > > > nfo/maemo-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jonathan Greene > > > m 917.560.3000 > > > AIM / iChat - atmasphere > > > gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Gizmo - JonathanGreene > > > blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp > > > > > > e > > > blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp > > > > > > e > > > blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp > > > > > > onathan Greene > m 917.560.3000 > AIM / iChat - atmasphere > gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gizmo - JonathanGreene > blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gizmo - JonathanGreene > blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gizmo - JonathanGreene > blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wwp > -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] N800 screen protector
Just received and installed my boxwave ClearTouch Anti-Glare screen protector. Seems quite nice and well worth the $12.95. I kept the initial plastic on until now (~2 weeks) and man was it beaten up - though I think that was largely due to my 3yr old daughter using the sketchpad. ;) On 1/29/07, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, ext Mike Klein wrote: >>> I've never needed screen protection for my stylus5yrs on my ipaq and >>> display is just as good as my N800 after 2 weeks of usage. >>> >>> I guess I'll have to examine my stylus with a microscope or magnifying >>> glass. >>> >>> CompUSA guy threw in free 1yr replacement policy...so I'll guess I'll be >>> activating it shortly. >> Mike - >> >> Did you remove the initial protector that it came shipped with? Or >> are you perhaps still using it? >> >> I've noticed lots of scratches (that are most visible with a dark >> screen) since receiving and using it today that leads me to believe >> that - like Karoliina said - it's *only* protection against shipping >> damage, and is not meant to be used long term. I've had a (badly cut) >> protector on the 770 since buying it in Dec '05 and wouldn't /dream/ >> of not having /something/ covering that lovely screen ... :-) >> >> All the best, >> Jonathan > Yes initial protection was removed. N800 screen feels like pudding it's > so soft though. > > The thing is...I don't need protection on my other devices...N800 > display seems different. Do those have also touchscreens? - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users On 1/29/07, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, ext Mike Klein wrote: >>> I've never needed screen protection for my stylus5yrs on my ipaq and >>> display is just as good as my N800 after 2 weeks of usage. >>> >>> I guess I'll have to examine my stylus with a microscope or magnifying >>> glass. >>> >>> CompUSA guy threw in free 1yr replacement policy...so I'll guess I'll be >>> activating it shortly. >> Mike - >> >> Did you remove the initial protector that it came shipped with? Or >> are you perhaps still using it? >> >> I've noticed lots of scratches (that are most visible with a dark >> screen) since receiving and using it today that leads me to believe >> that - like Karoliina said - it's *only* protection against shipping >> damage, and is not meant to be used long term. I've had a (badly cut) >> protector on the 770 since buying it in Dec '05 and wouldn't /dream/ >> of not having /something/ covering that lovely screen ... :-) >> >> All the best, >> Jonathan > Yes initial protection was removed. N800 screen feels like pudding it's > so soft though. > > The thing is...I don't need protection on my other devices...N800 > display seems different. Do those have also touchscreens? - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] InvisibleShield for the n800
Hi all, I just ordered an InvisibleShield screen protector for my new N800. I've been very impressed with their device coverings in the past, and hopefully this'll live up to my durability clarity expectations. In their demo videos, they take a pristine iPod nano, stick it in a tupperware container full of screws and nuts, close it up and shake it for a bit. They take the nano out, and it is untouched. If anyone else wants to order one, you have to do a custom order. The fee for a custom order is $4.95, and the final protector price was $11.95 I measured the screen at 91mm x 55mm. You also have to include a link to a picture of the device. I'll post when I get the shield, so you all can know if it's worth the $17 to get one. -Josh ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] International character support
It worked! Thank you so much for your information Kimitake. Your site worked perfectly for me. Opera now displays JP characters without any problems. --Dan-- On Feb 1, 2007, at 2:54 PM, Daniel Daley wrote: Thank you very much Kimitake! I will try your solution this evening hopefully and let you know my results. It seems to me it would have made more sense for Nokia to include a wide range of fonts on the n800 by default. Thanks! --Dan-- On Feb 1, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Kimitake Abe wrote: Hi Dan, If you can read Japanese, plase refer the following site. http://www.grass-japan.org/FOSS4G/readme-grass-i18n- ipafonts.eucjp.htm You can get JP free font from the site above. You need to install one of them to your device. http://kimitake.blogdns.net/item/388 You need to get R&D mode of N800 to install JP font. The site (mine) describes how to switch R&D mode. Unfortunately the site that JP font provides does not allow to provide font only secondary. If it is OK, I can create a simple debian package... Regards, Kimitake -Original Message- From:Daniel Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: maemo-users@maemo.org Date:Thu, 1 Feb 2007 13:51:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [maemo-users] International character support Thank you for your quick reply. The sites I am interested in do specify the charset on the page so I am most likely needing the font. Currently I only get an _ (underscore) character in place of hiragana/ kanji characters. Is there a resource for finding more information on installing a font or do I pretty much need to install it as I would any linux machine and opera will pick it up. Thanks again! --Dan-- On Feb 1, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Kimitake Abe wrote: Hi Dan, If the site specifies charset such as EUC-JP or ISO-2022-JP, opera browser can show the site correctly. Of couse, if you'd like to see Japanese site, you have to install JP font to your N800 first. Anyway, I also want to know how to modify the encoding list of the opera browser. Currently, there is no EUC-JP etc. Regards, Kimitake -Original Message- From:Daniel Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: maemo-users@maemo.org Date:Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:28:40 -0700 Subject: [maemo-users] International character support Hello all, I'm new to the list so I apologize if this is not the correct list for a question of this nature. I was wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to view international character sets, particularly Shift- JIS, on the web browser of the n800. I've went through the menus and see it's not listed in the encodings dialog. I also downloaded the minimo browser hoping it might have support but no luck. Is there a way I can add this somehow? Thanks! --Dan-- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] n800 wont boot anymore
I'll do that. Tomorrow i try to charge the battery a bit Thanks for your help. On 2/1/07, Paul Klapperich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You could try leaving it plugged in for a few hours to find out. Even with the battery totally drained I think the screen should still light up and display the battery icon, though. You might want to exchange it where you bought it or call Nokia about warranty work. Was the charger plugged into a surge suppressor? Maybe it took a hit when it was plugged in the other night. -- Paul On 2/1/07, Sebi Ryffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the quick reply. But It's not that easy. The screen remains > black all the time no matter what buttons i press or cables i plug in. > _Nothing_ happens: no screen, no led, no usb... > > I can not reflash it, because no communication over usb is possible. Is > it possible, that the battery drained totally? > > Sebi > > > > On 2/1/07, Paul Klapperich < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What exactly happens when you try to turn it on? Does the Nokia logo > > appear on the screen? Does the desktop eventually? Does the screen remain > > black the whole time? How about the LED around the 5-way navigator? Does > > this lightup as your pressing the power button waiting for it to boot? More > > information would be very handy. > > > > My gut reaction is that you'll have to reflash it, but it might need > > warranty work, or it could be something simple. > > Information about reflashing is here: > > http://www.nokiausa.com/support/phones/softwareupdate/1,8461,N800,00.html > > > > > > Reflashing will restore it to factory condition, so you will loose any > > software/data stored on the device. Anything on your MMC will be safe. > > > > --Paul > > > > On 2/1/07, Sebi Ryffel < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I bought a n800 a coupe of weeks ago and I'm quite happy with it. > > > > > > But yesterday I left it charging over night and in the morning the > > > display was black. Now it wont boot anymore! I tried everything: removed the > > > battery, pressed all kinds of buttons, plugged the usb-cable and/or charger > > > in > > > > > > Does anyone know what to do? How could i reanimate it? > > > > > > Sebi > > > > > > ___ > > > maemo-users mailing list > > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > > > > > > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: Charge from a USB port.
On 2/1/07, Larry Battraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For example, this guy has a power injector he's used for USB Host mode that > simply uses a 7805 regulator (pumps up to 1A) and a 9V battery. USB is > supposed to have a current limiting power source controlling the power sent > to a device based on the devices requests. That 7805 doesn't do this and > simply follows ohms law above, yet it doesn't tend to break things because > it keeps the 5V steady enough. I'm not sure how this is relevant since this power injector is meant to provide a tiny amount of current at 5V, just enough to tell the 770 something is plugged in. It doesn't actually power the 770. The OMAP3430 processor has a companion power management chip, the TWL4030. Is this used in the N800? If so, it's spec sheet says that it supports battery charging from USB. Hard to tell how it works with no doc. http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&contentId=4634&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=ProductBulletin+OT+twl4030 Maybe the next Nokia tablet will use something like the Freescale MX31 family which has public documentation. > (Link: > http://thoughtfix.blogspot.com/2006/01/usb-power-injector-2.html) This is > also the same method used by a whole slew of home made ipod and phone > chargers. All the phone chargers I've seen have a significant internal resistance-- they are _not_ designed the same way as devices that charge directly from USB. All the USB phone chargers I've seen have a inline adapter of some sort (including Nokia's new USB charger) to boost the voltage and limit the current. As mentioned, Thoughtfix's injector tells the 770 it has a USB device plugged in and does not power the 770. > > Simon's solution sounds like what I would do. Simon's solution scares me :-) I messed around enough to see how easy it is to start feeding far too much current in very quickly. USB ports are typically current-limited, but it still concerns me. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jon Smirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Podcasts on n800
Jonathan, Is there bundled gpodder for maemo? Or at least some howto you followed? Sergey On 2/1/07, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: just got gpodder installed myself and so far so good. Downloading MOTR - http://feeds.feedburner.com/motr/ - as I tap this out! On 2/1/07, Sergey Udaltsov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Jonathan. I will look at gpodder and see whether it would work for me... > > Sergey > > On 2/1/07, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not sure if you direct on device or sync. Gpodder in garage looks > > like it might do the direct trick. > > > > I have sync working on the mac with itunes - > > http://www.atmasphere. net/wp/archives/2007/01/25/synctunes-smart-content-for-your-nokia -n800 > > > > in the comment is a link to a pc tool as well. > > > > On 2/1/07, Sergey Udaltsov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > > > What would be the best way to listen to podcasts on N800? Any software > > > available for this purpose? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Sergey > > > ___ > > > maemo-users mailing list > > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > > > nfo/maemo-users > > > > > nfo/maemo-users > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jonathan Greene > > m 917.560.3000 > > AIM / iChat - atmasphere > > gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Gizmo - JonathanGreene > > blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp > > > e > > blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp > > > e > > blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp > > > onathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] International character support
Thank you very much Kimitake! I will try your solution this evening hopefully and let you know my results. It seems to me it would have made more sense for Nokia to include a wide range of fonts on the n800 by default. Thanks! --Dan-- On Feb 1, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Kimitake Abe wrote: Hi Dan, If you can read Japanese, plase refer the following site. http://www.grass-japan.org/FOSS4G/readme-grass-i18n-ipafonts.eucjp.htm You can get JP free font from the site above. You need to install one of them to your device. http://kimitake.blogdns.net/item/388 You need to get R&D mode of N800 to install JP font. The site (mine) describes how to switch R&D mode. Unfortunately the site that JP font provides does not allow to provide font only secondary. If it is OK, I can create a simple debian package... Regards, Kimitake -Original Message- From:Daniel Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: maemo-users@maemo.org Date:Thu, 1 Feb 2007 13:51:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [maemo-users] International character support Thank you for your quick reply. The sites I am interested in do specify the charset on the page so I am most likely needing the font. Currently I only get an _ (underscore) character in place of hiragana/ kanji characters. Is there a resource for finding more information on installing a font or do I pretty much need to install it as I would any linux machine and opera will pick it up. Thanks again! --Dan-- On Feb 1, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Kimitake Abe wrote: Hi Dan, If the site specifies charset such as EUC-JP or ISO-2022-JP, opera browser can show the site correctly. Of couse, if you'd like to see Japanese site, you have to install JP font to your N800 first. Anyway, I also want to know how to modify the encoding list of the opera browser. Currently, there is no EUC-JP etc. Regards, Kimitake -Original Message- From:Daniel Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: maemo-users@maemo.org Date:Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:28:40 -0700 Subject: [maemo-users] International character support Hello all, I'm new to the list so I apologize if this is not the correct list for a question of this nature. I was wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to view international character sets, particularly Shift- JIS, on the web browser of the n800. I've went through the menus and see it's not listed in the encodings dialog. I also downloaded the minimo browser hoping it might have support but no luck. Is there a way I can add this somehow? Thanks! --Dan-- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] n800 wont boot anymore
You could try leaving it plugged in for a few hours to find out. Even with the battery totally drained I think the screen should still light up and display the battery icon, though. You might want to exchange it where you bought it or call Nokia about warranty work. Was the charger plugged into a surge suppressor? Maybe it took a hit when it was plugged in the other night. -- Paul On 2/1/07, Sebi Ryffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the quick reply. But It's not that easy. The screen remains black all the time no matter what buttons i press or cables i plug in. _Nothing_ happens: no screen, no led, no usb... I can not reflash it, because no communication over usb is possible. Is it possible, that the battery drained totally? Sebi On 2/1/07, Paul Klapperich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What exactly happens when you try to turn it on? Does the Nokia logo > appear on the screen? Does the desktop eventually? Does the screen remain > black the whole time? How about the LED around the 5-way navigator? Does > this lightup as your pressing the power button waiting for it to boot? More > information would be very handy. > > My gut reaction is that you'll have to reflash it, but it might need > warranty work, or it could be something simple. > Information about reflashing is here: > http://www.nokiausa.com/support/phones/softwareupdate/1,8461,N800,00.html > > > Reflashing will restore it to factory condition, so you will loose any > software/data stored on the device. Anything on your MMC will be safe. > > --Paul > > On 2/1/07, Sebi Ryffel < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > Hi > > > > I bought a n800 a coupe of weeks ago and I'm quite happy with it. > > > > But yesterday I left it charging over night and in the morning the > > display was black. Now it wont boot anymore! I tried everything: removed the > > battery, pressed all kinds of buttons, plugged the usb-cable and/or charger > > in > > > > Does anyone know what to do? How could i reanimate it? > > > > Sebi > > > > ___ > > maemo-users mailing list > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Podcasts on n800
well - gPodder seems to definitely download them ... so in two steps / apps we will be able to download and play. On 2/1/07, Michael P. Lococo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> if u need the gui, well there was canola, I'm not sure if it >> supports podcast. > > I tested Canola with a few audio podcasts (e.g. CBC Radio) and it > worked fine. There's no N800 version yet, though. It streams the casts, though, rather than downloads them. So you need to be online to listen, you can't (to my knowledge) download and go offline to listen elsewhere. This may bother some folks and not others. Thanks, Mike ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] n800 wont boot anymore
Thanks for the quick reply. But It's not that easy. The screen remains black all the time no matter what buttons i press or cables i plug in. _Nothing_ happens: no screen, no led, no usb... I can not reflash it, because no communication over usb is possible. Is it possible, that the battery drained totally? Sebi On 2/1/07, Paul Klapperich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What exactly happens when you try to turn it on? Does the Nokia logo appear on the screen? Does the desktop eventually? Does the screen remain black the whole time? How about the LED around the 5-way navigator? Does this lightup as your pressing the power button waiting for it to boot? More information would be very handy. My gut reaction is that you'll have to reflash it, but it might need warranty work, or it could be something simple. Information about reflashing is here: http://www.nokiausa.com/support/phones/softwareupdate/1,8461,N800,00.html Reflashing will restore it to factory condition, so you will loose any software/data stored on the device. Anything on your MMC will be safe. --Paul On 2/1/07, Sebi Ryffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > Hi > > I bought a n800 a coupe of weeks ago and I'm quite happy with it. > > But yesterday I left it charging over night and in the morning the > display was black. Now it wont boot anymore! I tried everything: removed the > battery, pressed all kinds of buttons, plugged the usb-cable and/or charger > in > > Does anyone know what to do? How could i reanimate it? > > Sebi > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] n800 wont boot anymore
What exactly happens when you try to turn it on? Does the Nokia logo appear on the screen? Does the desktop eventually? Does the screen remain black the whole time? How about the LED around the 5-way navigator? Does this lightup as your pressing the power button waiting for it to boot? More information would be very handy. My gut reaction is that you'll have to reflash it, but it might need warranty work, or it could be something simple. Information about reflashing is here: http://www.nokiausa.com/support/phones/softwareupdate/1,8461,N800,00.html Reflashing will restore it to factory condition, so you will loose any software/data stored on the device. Anything on your MMC will be safe. --Paul On 2/1/07, Sebi Ryffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi I bought a n800 a coupe of weeks ago and I'm quite happy with it. But yesterday I left it charging over night and in the morning the display was black. Now it wont boot anymore! I tried everything: removed the battery, pressed all kinds of buttons, plugged the usb-cable and/or charger in Does anyone know what to do? How could i reanimate it? Sebi ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] International character support
Hi Dan, If you can read Japanese, plase refer the following site. http://www.grass-japan.org/FOSS4G/readme-grass-i18n-ipafonts.eucjp.htm You can get JP free font from the site above. You need to install one of them to your device. http://kimitake.blogdns.net/item/388 You need to get R&D mode of N800 to install JP font. The site (mine) describes how to switch R&D mode. Unfortunately the site that JP font provides does not allow to provide font only secondary. If it is OK, I can create a simple debian package... Regards, Kimitake -Original Message- From:Daniel Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: maemo-users@maemo.org Date:Thu, 1 Feb 2007 13:51:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [maemo-users] International character support Thank you for your quick reply. The sites I am interested in do specify the charset on the page so I am most likely needing the font. Currently I only get an _ (underscore) character in place of hiragana/ kanji characters. Is there a resource for finding more information on installing a font or do I pretty much need to install it as I would any linux machine and opera will pick it up. Thanks again! --Dan-- On Feb 1, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Kimitake Abe wrote: > Hi Dan, > > If the site specifies charset such as EUC-JP or ISO-2022-JP, > opera browser can show the site correctly. > Of couse, if you'd like to see Japanese site, you have to > install JP font to your N800 first. > > Anyway, I also want to know how to modify the encoding list > of the opera browser. Currently, there is no EUC-JP etc. > > Regards, > Kimitake > > -Original Message- > From:Daniel Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: maemo-users@maemo.org > Date:Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:28:40 -0700 > Subject: [maemo-users] International character support > > > Hello all, > > I'm new to the list so I apologize if this is not the correct list > for a question of this nature. I was wondering if anyone knows if it > is possible to view international character sets, particularly Shift- > JIS, on the web browser of the n800. I've went through the menus and > see it's not listed in the encodings dialog. I also downloaded the > minimo browser hoping it might have support but no luck. Is there a > way I can add this somehow? > > Thanks! > > --Dan-- > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] n800 wont boot anymore
Hi I bought a n800 a coupe of weeks ago and I'm quite happy with it. But yesterday I left it charging over night and in the morning the display was black. Now it wont boot anymore! I tried everything: removed the battery, pressed all kinds of buttons, plugged the usb-cable and/or charger in Does anyone know what to do? How could i reanimate it? Sebi ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Podcasts on n800
>> if u need the gui, well there was canola, I'm not sure if it >> supports podcast. > > I tested Canola with a few audio podcasts (e.g. CBC Radio) and it > worked fine. There's no N800 version yet, though. It streams the casts, though, rather than downloads them. So you need to be online to listen, you can't (to my knowledge) download and go offline to listen elsewhere. This may bother some folks and not others. Thanks, Mike ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] International character support
Thank you for your quick reply. The sites I am interested in do specify the charset on the page so I am most likely needing the font. Currently I only get an _ (underscore) character in place of hiragana/ kanji characters. Is there a resource for finding more information on installing a font or do I pretty much need to install it as I would any linux machine and opera will pick it up. Thanks again! --Dan-- On Feb 1, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Kimitake Abe wrote: Hi Dan, If the site specifies charset such as EUC-JP or ISO-2022-JP, opera browser can show the site correctly. Of couse, if you'd like to see Japanese site, you have to install JP font to your N800 first. Anyway, I also want to know how to modify the encoding list of the opera browser. Currently, there is no EUC-JP etc. Regards, Kimitake -Original Message- From:Daniel Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: maemo-users@maemo.org Date:Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:28:40 -0700 Subject: [maemo-users] International character support Hello all, I'm new to the list so I apologize if this is not the correct list for a question of this nature. I was wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to view international character sets, particularly Shift- JIS, on the web browser of the n800. I've went through the menus and see it's not listed in the encodings dialog. I also downloaded the minimo browser hoping it might have support but no luck. Is there a way I can add this somehow? Thanks! --Dan-- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] International character support
Hi Dan, If the site specifies charset such as EUC-JP or ISO-2022-JP, opera browser can show the site correctly. Of couse, if you'd like to see Japanese site, you have to install JP font to your N800 first. Anyway, I also want to know how to modify the encoding list of the opera browser. Currently, there is no EUC-JP etc. Regards, Kimitake -Original Message- From:Daniel Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: maemo-users@maemo.org Date:Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:28:40 -0700 Subject: [maemo-users] International character support Hello all, I'm new to the list so I apologize if this is not the correct list for a question of this nature. I was wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to view international character sets, particularly Shift- JIS, on the web browser of the n800. I've went through the menus and see it's not listed in the encodings dialog. I also downloaded the minimo browser hoping it might have support but no luck. Is there a way I can add this somehow? Thanks! --Dan-- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: Charge from a USB port.
On 2/1/07, Paul Klapperich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why would it need a current limiter? V=I*R. If the voltage is right, the current is completely dependent on the equivalent resistance of the device. If the device is designed to pull 500mA and I give it a supply capable of 1A, it will only pull 500mA. If I give it a supply capable of only 250mA, though, then it won't pull 500mA and the voltage will dip as well. Power supplies don't supply current, they supply voltage and have a max current possible. The equivalent resistance of the device is very low-- it relies on the power supply to limit current flow. It's essentially a direct connection to the 3.7V Li-ion battery, cycled on and off. I tried providing a regulated (and high-current-capable) 5V power to the 770 and the less resistance I provided in series with the power line the more power it drew, up to a point where it started glitching and charging irregularly, and then finally refused to charge at all. I hooked a scope and DVM inline with the power supply Nokia provides and what happens is the 770 will draw large amounts of power in pulses, dragging the voltage fed in down to around 4.2 - 4.5V. If you have a solid, high-current supply you could potentially destroy the 770's charging circuitry if you didn't limit the current somehow. For example, this guy has a power injector he's used for USB Host mode that simply uses a 7805 regulator (pumps up to 1A) and a 9V battery. USB is supposed to have a current limiting power source controlling the power sent to a device based on the devices requests. That 7805 doesn't do this and simply follows ohms law above, yet it doesn't tend to break things because it keeps the 5V steady enough. I'm not sure how this is relevant since this power injector is meant to provide a tiny amount of current at 5V, just enough to tell the 770 something is plugged in. It doesn't actually power the 770. (Link: http://thoughtfix.blogspot.com/2006/01/usb-power-injector-2.html) This is also the same method used by a whole slew of home made ipod and phone chargers. All the phone chargers I've seen have a significant internal resistance-- they are _not_ designed the same way as devices that charge directly from USB. All the USB phone chargers I've seen have a inline adapter of some sort (including Nokia's new USB charger) to boost the voltage and limit the current. As mentioned, Thoughtfix's injector tells the 770 it has a USB device plugged in and does not power the 770. Simon's solution sounds like what I would do. Simon's solution scares me :-) I messed around enough to see how easy it is to start feeding far too much current in very quickly. USB ports are typically current-limited, but it still concerns me. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] International character support
Hello all, I'm new to the list so I apologize if this is not the correct list for a question of this nature. I was wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to view international character sets, particularly Shift- JIS, on the web browser of the n800. I've went through the menus and see it's not listed in the encodings dialog. I also downloaded the minimo browser hoping it might have support but no luck. Is there a way I can add this somehow? Thanks! --Dan-- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Printing?
Hi, On 1/29/07, James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just curious, why the cat? Just to avoid hassles with IO redirection. Cheerio, Jan ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: Charge from a USB port.
Why would it need a current limiter? V=I*R. If the voltage is right, the current is completely dependent on the equivalent resistance of the device. If the device is designed to pull 500mA and I give it a supply capable of 1A, it will only pull 500mA. If I give it a supply capable of only 250mA, though, then it won't pull 500mA and the voltage will dip as well. Power supplies don't supply current, they supply voltage and have a max current possible. For example, this guy has a power injector he's used for USB Host mode that simply uses a 7805 regulator (pumps up to 1A) and a 9V battery. USB is supposed to have a current limiting power source controlling the power sent to a device based on the devices requests. That 7805 doesn't do this and simply follows ohms law above, yet it doesn't tend to break things because it keeps the 5V steady enough. (Link: http://thoughtfix.blogspot.com/2006/01/usb-power-injector-2.html) This is also the same method used by a whole slew of home made ipod and phone chargers. Simon's solution sounds like what I would do. -- Paul On 2/1/07, Paul Klapperich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why would it need a current limiter? V=I*R. If the voltage is right, the current is completely dependent on the equivalent resistance of the device. If the device is designed to pull 500mA and I give it a supply capable of 1A, it will only pull 500mA. If I give it a supply capable of only 250mA, though, then it won't pull 500mA and the voltage will dip as well. For example, this guy has a power injector he's used for USB Host mode that simply uses a 7805 regulator (pumps up to 1A) and a 9V battery. USB is supposed to have a current limiting power source controlling the power sent to a device based on the devices requests. That 7805 doesn't do this and simply follows ohms law above, yet it doesn't tend to break things because it keeps the 5V steady enough. (Link: http://thoughtfix.blogspot.com/2006/01/usb-power-injector-2.html) Simon's solution sounds like what I would do. -- Paul On 2/1/07, Larry Battraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2/1/07, Simon Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No we just chopped the end off the nokia charger and soldered to a > > USB lead. I was unable to source the correct size power plug from > > Maplin or anywhere else it is smaller than the smallest hence the > chopping > > off. > > > > Regards > > Simon > > Does this actually work? The 770/n800 need current-limited power, > and I would think the direct USB connection would feed it too much > current. Too much current and the 770 will refuse to charge or > possibly damage it. I bought a USB phone charger adapter and soldered > a nokia phone plug onto it. The USB phone adapter boosts the voltage > to 6 volts and limits the current as well. It looks very similar to > the Nokia one except it has a female USB plug on the other side (to > plug phone adapter plugs into). Works pretty well but doesn't seem to > charge as fast as the standard AC adapter the 770/n800 ships with. > > Larry > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: Charge from a USB port.
On 2/1/07, Simon Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No we just chopped the end off the nokia charger and soldered to a USB lead. I was unable to source the correct size power plug from Maplin or anywhere else it is smaller than the smallest hence the chopping off. Regards Simon Does this actually work? The 770/n800 need current-limited power, and I would think the direct USB connection would feed it too much current. Too much current and the 770 will refuse to charge or possibly damage it. I bought a USB phone charger adapter and soldered a nokia phone plug onto it. The USB phone adapter boosts the voltage to 6 volts and limits the current as well. It looks very similar to the Nokia one except it has a female USB plug on the other side (to plug phone adapter plugs into). Works pretty well but doesn't seem to charge as fast as the standard AC adapter the 770/n800 ships with. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: New OS 2006 firmware released
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:56:31 +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote: > I use links, but would like to hear is minimo better than opera in base? > How it compare in ram and stability? Is there a package of elinks for N800, any url ? /kevin ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: New OS 2006 firmware released
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:44:52 +, Neil MacLeod wrote: > Minimo is no longer being actively developed: > > http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/dougt/archives/017337.html > > DougT and the Mozilla Organisation apparently have big ideas for it's > replacement, something called "Mobile Companion", I can only hope it's > development is less shambolic than that of Minimo. > > I personally don't agree with their reasons for not continuing with Minimo > - it's pretty clear they were struggling to get it to work on the mobile > phone platform, however the Internet Tablet platform should be perfect for > Minimo. > > Antonio did a great job bringing Minimo to the 770, I wouldn't blame him > if he didn't continue though. > > It would be great if Nokia picked up the Minimo pieces, or ported their > S60 browser to the Internet Tablet thus breaking the dependency on > closed-source Opera. Even I'll like to jump on this thread and claim that my browsing experience on N800 did not came out to be any better using both either Minimo or Opera, then of my experience on Palm Zire72 device using Opera mini and default Palm browser. /kevin ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Removing email client
Guys a wishlist item... on a device with such a constrained vertical size, it would really be nice if the message header and message shared the same pane. The message header scrolls up when you scroll the message and you end up with lots of space for displaying the message. Evolution and others do this. Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] N800 case (was: Charge from a USB port)
Same goes for the N800 case - what's up with the delay on this vital accessory? :) I agree: hey, NOKIA people, any (good) news about the N800 case?! TIA. -- Laurent, Nantes - France Apple PowerBook 12" Treo 650 (unlocked GSM) Nokia Internet Tablet N800 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: [maemo-users] n800 and ThinkOutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: Thanks Hanno. That's interesting. It sounds like each has its benefits along with negatives. I'm interesting is a keyboard for use on my desk or on an airplane. Thus the SU-8W could meet that needs. I have the Nokia bluetooth keyboard and really like it. The couple times I've needed to use it on my lap, I simply grabbed a book and set it on that. Works in a pinch. I never tried any of the other keyboards, but the only thing that can be a pain with the Nokia is switching between the numbers and letters, as they require you to be in 'function mode' kind of like a scientific calculator. I find myself typing out 'two' and 'twenty five' instead of using numbers. The hyphen is up there as well, so I don't use it much, either. K ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Podcasts on n800
On 1 Feb 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > if u need the gui, well there was canola, I'm not sure if it > supports podcast. I tested Canola with a few audio podcasts (e.g. CBC Radio) and it worked fine. There's no N800 version yet, though. Ted ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Podcasts on n800
just got gpodder installed myself and so far so good. Downloading MOTR - http://feeds.feedburner.com/motr/ - as I tap this out! On 2/1/07, Sergey Udaltsov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks Jonathan. I will look at gpodder and see whether it would work for me... Sergey On 2/1/07, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not sure if you direct on device or sync. Gpodder in garage looks > like it might do the direct trick. > > I have sync working on the mac with itunes - > http://www.atmasphere. net/wp/archives/2007/01/25/synctunes-smart-content-for-your-nokia -n800 > > in the comment is a link to a pc tool as well. > > On 2/1/07, Sergey Udaltsov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all > > > > What would be the best way to listen to podcasts on N800? Any software > > available for this purpose? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sergey > > ___ > > maemo-users mailing list > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > nfo/maemo-users > > > nfo/maemo-users > > > > > -- > Jonathan Greene > m 917.560.3000 > AIM / iChat - atmasphere > gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gizmo - JonathanGreene > blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp > e > blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp > e > blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp > onathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: [maemo-users] n800 and ThinkOutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard
Thanks Hanno. That's interesting. It sounds like each has its benefits along with negatives. I'm interesting is a keyboard for use on my desk or on an airplane. Thus the SU-8W could meet that needs. Regards, Nick Shaw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hanno Zulla Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:02 AM To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-users] n800 and ThinkOutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard Dr. Nicholas Shaw schrieb: > Any comments/thoughts on which is better - the Nokia SU-8W BT Keyboard or > the ThinkOutside Stowaway BT keyboard? I don't know the Stowaway, but own the Nokia SU-8W. It's very well manufactured and very nice to type on, so I can recommend it. The only flaw I can find is that you cannot clamp the folding mechanism. You need some flat surface to put the keyboard on, so you cannot use it on your lap (e.g. on the bus) because it keeps folding. Regards, Hanno ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: avoid autounmount of SD on N800
> Any clue on how to avoid SD partitions unmounting on N800? I suspect (not seeing 800) that it is done using sudo scripts. If you could find the right one, you would remove power from the user to do it. I agree that the person in front of the screen has to make decision what to mount or unmount. Zoran ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
See my previous post http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006133.html [Working Peripherals for Wired Networking and Serial and powering Nokia from Hub] There is another post about patching the kernel if you happen to use the same USB network thing as me but that may be fixed in the version 3 IT2006 I haven't tested it yet but I assume it has a newer kernel and the issues had been resolved in newer kernels. It has part numbers in their for things including the camera power adapter I used. I will be testing the same setup with IT2006 v3 on the 770 and IT2007 on the 800 sometime soon. Regards Simon At 14:13 01/02/2007, Paule Ecimovic wrote: Hi, Simon How did you set up your additional usb host hardware, i.e., hub, additional power, plugging into the Nokia 770? I would like get it working on mine as well. (BTW: The adapter you mention seems just right for my camera too.) Cheers, Paule - Original Message - From: "Simon Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800 Please don't say we can't use host mode on 800! Surely this can't be true? Anyone confirmed it is not possible? Something work mentioning to the person trying to get the keyboard working is that some USB devices are very sensitive about the voltage it needs to be pretty much dead on 5v under load. We use a maplin regulated camera charger (about £10 believe it or not) for the 770 and it has enough to power the 770 and all the various USB bits we use (network, serial, hub and custom circuit board). Note: if anyone makes a charger for the Nokia powering from the powered hub, you should be aware the nokia tuns off its charging circuits if the voltage is too low or too high also. It also charges in a weird way that causes voltage ripple and pull back that may effect other USB devices (consider adding diodes and capacitors, to prevent nokia effecting other USB devices power). Still it is pretty clever and stops charging when the battery is full. I'll mess with the 800 when I have a bit more time in a week or so and see what I can get to work if no one beats me to it. Regards Simon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.18/662 - Release Date: 31/01/2007 15:16 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users No virus found in this incoming message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (3.1.0.10 - 9.059.005). http://www.pctools.com/anti-virus/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.18/662 - Release Date: 31/01/2007 15:16 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.18/662 - Release Date: 31/01/2007 15:16 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Charge from a USB port.
Hi! On 2/1/07, Chris Caldwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone found an adaptor to charge the 770 from the USB port? I've been using this to charge my 770, N800 and N90: http://www.the-synch.co.uk/home.php?m=home&ex=1&; -- Henri Bergius Motorcycle adventures and Open Source Software http://bergie.iki.fi/ Skype: henribergius Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: Charge from a USB port.
>Chris Caldwell wrote: >>Has anyone found an adaptor to charge the 770 from the USB port? I Just got one in the post this morning off ebay. Briefly tested it and works fine. http://tinyurl.com/3bsy8t Gav ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: Charge from a USB port.
Simon Moore wrote: No we just chopped the end off the nokia charger and soldered to a USB lead. I was unable to source the correct size power plug from Maplin or anywhere else it is smaller than the smallest hence the chopping off. Regards Simon Interesting solution! I think I can wait for Nokia to bring the CA-100 to market, assuming it won't be much longer - besides I don't have any spare 2mm tip AC chargers that I can cannibalise! :) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
Hi, Simon How did you set up your additional usb host hardware, i.e., hub, additional power, plugging into the Nokia 770? I would like get it working on mine as well. (BTW: The adapter you mention seems just right for my camera too.) Cheers, Paule - Original Message - From: "Simon Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800 Please don't say we can't use host mode on 800! Surely this can't be true? Anyone confirmed it is not possible? Something work mentioning to the person trying to get the keyboard working is that some USB devices are very sensitive about the voltage it needs to be pretty much dead on 5v under load. We use a maplin regulated camera charger (about £10 believe it or not) for the 770 and it has enough to power the 770 and all the various USB bits we use (network, serial, hub and custom circuit board). Note: if anyone makes a charger for the Nokia powering from the powered hub, you should be aware the nokia tuns off its charging circuits if the voltage is too low or too high also. It also charges in a weird way that causes voltage ripple and pull back that may effect other USB devices (consider adding diodes and capacitors, to prevent nokia effecting other USB devices power). Still it is pretty clever and stops charging when the battery is full. I'll mess with the 800 when I have a bit more time in a week or so and see what I can get to work if no one beats me to it. Regards Simon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.18/662 - Release Date: 31/01/2007 15:16 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users No virus found in this incoming message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (3.1.0.10 - 9.059.005). http://www.pctools.com/anti-virus/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Podcasts on n800
Thanks Jonathan. I will look at gpodder and see whether it would work for me... Sergey On 2/1/07, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not sure if you direct on device or sync. Gpodder in garage looks like it might do the direct trick. I have sync working on the mac with itunes - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2007/01/25/synctunes-smart-content-for-your-nokia-n800 in the comment is a link to a pc tool as well. On 2/1/07, Sergey Udaltsov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all > > What would be the best way to listen to podcasts on N800? Any software > available for this purpose? > > Thanks, > > Sergey > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > nfo/maemo-users > nfo/maemo-users > -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: Charge from a USB port.
No we just chopped the end off the nokia charger and soldered to a USB lead. I was unable to source the correct size power plug from Maplin or anywhere else it is smaller than the smallest hence the chopping off. Regards Simon At 14:00 01/02/2007, Neil MacLeod wrote: Chris Caldwell wrote: Has anyone found an adaptor to charge the 770 from the USB port? I know the 770 does not support direct USB-USB charging, but I'm looking for something similar to the many travel chargers for cell phones. Something that has an adaptor to fit a Nokia 6682 as well would be a bonus. What about this: http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/18/nokia-triumphantly-enters-21st-century-offers-usb-charging/ No idea when it will become available. Same goes for the N800 case - what's up with the delay on this vital accessory? :) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.18/662 - Release Date: 31/01/2007 15:16 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.18/662 - Release Date: 31/01/2007 15:16 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: Charge from a USB port.
Chris Caldwell wrote: Has anyone found an adaptor to charge the 770 from the USB port? I know the 770 does not support direct USB-USB charging, but I'm looking for something similar to the many travel chargers for cell phones. Something that has an adaptor to fit a Nokia 6682 as well would be a bonus. What about this: http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/18/nokia-triumphantly-enters-21st-century-offers-usb-charging/ No idea when it will become available. Same goes for the N800 case - what's up with the delay on this vital accessory? :) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Podcasts on n800
On 02/01/2007 02:12, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: > Hi all > > What would be the best way to listen to podcasts on N800? Any software > available for this purpose? > > Thanks, > > Sergey I believe you can just use the builtin RSS reader? Although this is a manual process. Personally I let my home machine run podcatcher every three hours, then in the mornings I plug in the N800 copy the files onto it and hit the day. I've even written a script that uses scp and dbclient to login via ssh to my home machine and first download the received casts then delete them off of my home machine. Works slick except for the slow upload speed of my cable modem 384k, especially when my two children are playing online games. tim ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Charge from a USB port.
Has anyone found an adaptor to charge the 770 from the USB port? I know the 770 does not support direct USB-USB charging, but I'm looking for something similar to the many travel chargers for cell phones. Something that has an adaptor to fit a Nokia 6682 as well would be a bonus. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Podcasts on n800
Theres is a CLI podcatcher called bashpodder, because its name you can run it on xterm. if u need the gui, well there was canola, I'm not sure if it supports podcast. On 2/1/07, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not sure if you direct on device or sync. Gpodder in garage looks like it might do the direct trick. I have sync working on the mac with itunes - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2007/01/25/synctunes-smart-content-for-your-nokia-n800 in the comment is a link to a pc tool as well. On 2/1/07, Sergey Udaltsov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all > > What would be the best way to listen to podcasts on N800? Any software > available for this purpose? > > Thanks, > > Sergey > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > nfo/maemo-users > nfo/maemo-users > -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Kahlil Johnson "Ya tengo GMAIL!!" ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Podcasts on n800
Not sure if you direct on device or sync. Gpodder in garage looks like it might do the direct trick. I have sync working on the mac with itunes - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2007/01/25/synctunes-smart-content-for-your-nokia-n800 in the comment is a link to a pc tool as well. On 2/1/07, Sergey Udaltsov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all What would be the best way to listen to podcasts on N800? Any software available for this purpose? Thanks, Sergey ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users nfo/maemo-users nfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
R: [maemo-users] Can't format 2GB SD
>Turn off the write-protect tab on the side? It's unlocked. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Can't format 2GB SD
Log2Ins wrote: > Hello I'm using a 2GB Sandisk SD with my N800 and something strange is > happening with it. I try to delete the files on it, it seems OK but when I > plug the N800 into my PC, all the deleted files appear. Also, if I copy a > new file on it from the PC, all seems OK but when I unplug the N800 these > new files disappear from the SD. So I've decided to format it, but both the > N800 and windows XP fail. Turn off the write-protect tab on the side? -- Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Programmer-Archaeologist University of Puerto Rico http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Can't format 2GB SD
Hello I'm using a 2GB Sandisk SD with my N800 and something strange is happening with it. I try to delete the files on it, it seems OK but when I plug the N800 into my PC, all the deleted files appear. Also, if I copy a new file on it from the PC, all seems OK but when I unplug the N800 these new files disappear from the SD. So I've decided to format it, but both the N800 and windows XP fail. I don't know how to format it. Any help? Thanks, Antonio ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] avoid autounmount of SD on N800
Any clue on how to avoid SD partitions unmounting on N800? IIRC on 770 only vfat partitions were unmounted, on N800 I found all partitions are umounted when I connect USB, which I only use for networking. Any clue? Thanx. Maddler ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: New OS 2006 firmware released
>I use Opera on the 770 and N800, mainly because Minimo is so far >from being finished. > >While Minimo works great with many sites, and is actually better on >some sites than Opera, Minimo is nowhere near a finished product and >is not usable as a "production" quality browser. I'd agree with that except IMHO Opera on the 770 is not production quality either. Hence my gripe about marketing an Internet tablet which does not have a decent web browser. It would be nice if they at least let Opera offer upgrades for it. I contacted Opera a few months ago about the issues in their browser and they said that they cannot / will not release upgrades as it is all tied up in the agreement with Nokia. Kind of annoying as they do release upgrades etc for windows (which is not open source of course). The last version of Minimo I tried crashed less often than Opera. Both do a reasonable job or rendering the web pages so they are readable/usable. Last time I checked Minimo couldn't use the zoom / full screen hardware buttons (I know that was being worked on) and didn't have flash. Minimo does have better support for DHTML / XML / XSLT etc. Minimo can be slow to load. Try the Adobe website in opera on the 770, is it not the slowest thing in the universe. I wonder whether the issue is that opera is trying to redesign the page to fit better on a small screen, however given the resolution of the 770 they should just not bother and perhaps it would go faster? Our first 800 has arrived, which we will no doubt be testing in the near future. Oops, meant to send this to the list: What i'd actually like to see is a port of webkit (http://webkit.org/) to the 770. An other team in Nokia has ported this to symbian (http://opensource.nokia.com/) and its used as the browser on the newer Nokia smart phones so its optimised for small platforms and is under active development as its used by Safari on the Mac, the aforementioned Symbian browser, and as the html renderer in kde amoung other things. In maemo svn there use to be (probably still is but a quick look and I couldn't find it) a browser wrapper which made mention of webkit I think. This may well make for a more lightweight but still opensource browser with good support for most things than the moz codebase. There's also the codebase called Web based on gtkhtml that Chris was working on http://chrislord.net/blog/Software/Web/ Peter Also since found this https://garage.maemo.org/projects/browser/ which is the code mentioned above. P ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
Please don't say we can't use host mode on 800! Surely this can't be true? Anyone confirmed it is not possible? Something work mentioning to the person trying to get the keyboard working is that some USB devices are very sensitive about the voltage it needs to be pretty much dead on 5v under load. We use a maplin regulated camera charger (about £10 believe it or not) for the 770 and it has enough to power the 770 and all the various USB bits we use (network, serial, hub and custom circuit board). Note: if anyone makes a charger for the Nokia powering from the powered hub, you should be aware the nokia tuns off its charging circuits if the voltage is too low or too high also. It also charges in a weird way that causes voltage ripple and pull back that may effect other USB devices (consider adding diodes and capacitors, to prevent nokia effecting other USB devices power). Still it is pretty clever and stops charging when the battery is full. I'll mess with the 800 when I have a bit more time in a week or so and see what I can get to work if no one beats me to it. Regards Simon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.18/662 - Release Date: 31/01/2007 15:16 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] USB Host Power injectors as retrofit USB phone chargers driven to run in reverse
Hi, all On the question of power injector implementation to enable host mode USB OTG on the Nokia 770, has anyone tried running a USB phone charger for phones that weren't designed to be charged by USB out-of-the-box (OTB <.|,>) and plugging in a 9V battery in a casing with a stereo mini-plug port or smaller and the USB end into a USB hub then the hub via a USB A/MtoUSB-mini converter into the Nokia 770 mini USB port. The hub should give a number of free USB A/F ports for plugging in devices minus whatever splicing arrangement one prefers for connecting the charger-turn-injector into the hub. I suspect one would have to chose a hub that allows (against pre-USB-OTG specs) to feed additional power to the host to support host mode functionality. Power adapters in pre-OTG specs are supposed only to feed power to higher-demand devices, not to their host. Also, it would be nice not to be tied to an external wall plug, hence the battery in some web-posted designs makes sense. Another thing to charge, but what's new. Edison won out in devices, Tesla in efficient long-distance power distribution. Home is where you charge your batteries all the OTG devices of your e-life: get one, it's really fun. Cheers, Paule No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (3.1.0.10 - 9.059.005). http://www.pctools.com/anti-virus/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Podcasts on n800
Hi all What would be the best way to listen to podcasts on N800? Any software available for this purpose? Thanks, Sergey ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: New OS 2006 firmware released
I use Opera on the 770 and N800, mainly because Minimo is so far from being finished. While Minimo works great with many sites, and is actually better on some sites than Opera, Minimo is nowhere near a finished product and is not usable as a "production" quality browser. I'd agree with that except IMHO Opera on the 770 is not production quality either. Hence my gripe about marketing an Internet tablet which does not have a decent web browser. It would be nice if they at least let Opera offer upgrades for it. I contacted Opera a few months ago about the issues in their browser and they said that they cannot / will not release upgrades as it is all tied up in the agreement with Nokia. Kind of annoying as they do release upgrades etc for windows (which is not open source of course). The last version of Minimo I tried crashed less often than Opera. Both do a reasonable job or rendering the web pages so they are readable/usable. Last time I checked Minimo couldn't use the zoom / full screen hardware buttons (I know that was being worked on) and didn't have flash. Minimo does have better support for DHTML / XML / XSLT etc. Minimo can be slow to load. Try the Adobe website in opera on the 770, is it not the slowest thing in the universe. I wonder whether the issue is that opera is trying to redesign the page to fit better on a small screen, however given the resolution of the 770 they should just not bother and perhaps it would go faster? Our first 800 has arrived, which we will no doubt be testing in the near future. Regards Simon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.18/662 - Release Date: 31/01/2007 15:16 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Modest (was Re: [maemo-users] Removing email client)
>> Asked myself the same yesterday when seeing this: >> >http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2007/01/29/yet-another-tinymail-e-ma >> il >> -client > >So, at least we know modest is still under development. It's a >little disappointing that in the flurry of excitement of >Tinymail starting, modest was created on garage as an open >source product - but then got pulled by (presumably) Nokia legal. Agree, this was just sad. >It's now been over a year, with no sign of Modest. At least if >it was open source we could assist with the UI. Or is the >delay in Tinymail? >What can we do to help? > >For example, I'd like to ensure that Modest doesn't make the >same UI gaffes as osso-email (e.g. using osso-browser to >render all mail, resulting in slow navigation and display). AFAIK they are not using the browser to show emails anymore since IT-2006 - I would think they use gtkhtml instead. And then UI discussions tent to be very subjective whereas code issues are much easier to agree on ;) Br, --jakub ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Modest (was Re: [maemo-users] Removing email client)
On 2/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Asked myself the same yesterday when seeing this: http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2007/01/29/yet-another-tinymail-e-mail -client So, at least we know modest is still under development. It's a little disappointing that in the flurry of excitement of Tinymail starting, modest was created on garage as an open source product - but then got pulled by (presumably) Nokia legal. It's now been over a year, with no sign of Modest. At least if it was open source we could assist with the UI. Or is the delay in Tinymail? What can we do to help? For example, I'd like to ensure that Modest doesn't make the same UI gaffes as osso-email (e.g. using osso-browser to render all mail, resulting in slow navigation and display). What'd be really exciting, is an iPhone/Canola-inspired rethink of the entire mobile email metaphors, but a better UI designer than I would have to chip in there. Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] n800 and ThinkOutside stowaway bluetooth keyboard
Dr. Nicholas Shaw schrieb: > Any comments/thoughts on which is better - the Nokia SU-8W BT Keyboard or > the ThinkOutside Stowaway BT keyboard? I don't know the Stowaway, but own the Nokia SU-8W. It's very well manufactured and very nice to type on, so I can recommend it. The only flaw I can find is that you cannot clamp the folding mechanism. You need some flat surface to put the keyboard on, so you cannot use it on your lap (e.g. on the bus) because it keeps folding. Regards, Hanno ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] metalayer-crawler
Hi, ext Eero Tamminen wrote: If you reboot, can you get it again to consume that much CPU i.e. is the problem (easily) re-producable? It starts consuming CPU as soon as it starts, and keeps going. But only if your MMC is in when you reboot? Does "dmesg" tell anything? What happens if you remove MMC? Does the device complain that your MMC is in use? If it does, what is the output of following: for pid in $(pidof metalayer-crawler); do ls -l /proc/$pid/fd; done (Does it list any files from the MMC?) I've now received an MMC which triggers this bug. The FAT file system on this MMC is corrupted. I.e. you would see in dmesg messages about FAT errors and the crawler has some files open which names are complete (>200 bytes long) garbage. Most of the MMC contents seemed OK though and I think that's why it was mounted. Please check whether all the file names on your MMC look alright and fsck it. If this doesn't cure the problem, more information about the problem is needed. - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
