Re: I just want to buy a N800 but Nokia don't let me do!

2007-03-28 Thread Frantisek Dufka

Jesus wrote:
In Summary: I have an international credit card (and money!), I have a 
discount code, I have a friend living in US that is coming to Brazil (he 
doesn't have a credit card with billing address in US to!) and I REALLY 
want a N800. Nokia doesn't let me to!


Yes, had the same problem (i.e wanted to pay with my valid card and ship 
to someone else because they don't want to ship it to my country). I 
think this is some sort of conspiracy on Nokia side :-) Maybe they don't 
want to sell it because they know it will be faulty and they also know 
their support is poor so why not to cut it at the beginning and don't 
sell anything to strangers who are not worthy? Just kidding :-) I'm 
still happy for the discount code.


I found nice person in Germany. The price for this shipping/billing 
address problem was 8.60 EUR additional postage plus 4.01 EUR on PayPal 
fees (PayPal has no problem with my card) plus wasted time of that nice 
person plus my fear that something will go wrong. Quite cheap when 
considering the discount and device is fine. But still I was not very 
impressed by all those obstacles. And imagine we have this European 
Union thing so in theory there are no borders and barriers for people 
and trade :-)


Frantisek
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[ANN] simple-launcher v0.9.3 is released

2007-03-28 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
Hi

Yesterday I released v0.9.3 of simple-launcher.

New stuff:
  * config file can now be backed up
  * default icon is shown for non-existing/missing icons
  * non d-bus apps can be started

Fixes:
  * minimal size for the applet is just 1 button :)

Download it at
  https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=131

Report problems here or at
  https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?group_id=131

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Re: I just want to buy a N800 but Nokia don't let me do!

2007-03-28 Thread Neil MacLeod

Sounds like you need a US-based credit-card wielding third-party that is 
willing to pay for the device and either give it to your friend in California, 
or ship to you in Brazil and for you to then at some point transfer funds to 
the third party to cover their costs.

Not an ideal situation at all, but possibly the only option as your friend has 
no valid US credit card. :(


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Re: I just want to buy a N800 but Nokia don't let me do!

2007-03-28 Thread Jesus

Don't know if you read all my mail:

1- No, i didn't called Nokia yet... maybe it is a way out. The thing is: how
can i call a 1-800 number from Brazil? (maybe skypeOut...)
2- 'cause Nokia does not ship to Brazil the N800. And, if it did, i would
have to pay 60% more just for tax!
3- No, I'm not the "the guy in the Norden with a stolen credit card". My
friend is just a student in US, so he doesn't have a credit card from US.
His credit card is also from Brazil, with a brazillian billing address!!

Thanks again!

2007/3/28, Paul Klapperich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


I can't help you at all, but I have a couple of thoughts:
1) Have you tried calling Nokia? Maybe they'll let you do it over the
phone.
2) Why don't you just ship it to your address in Brazil?
3) If it's a friend of yours, have him buy and give him the money when he
gives you the N800. The only reason you can't ship to an address other than
your billing address is to prevent fraud--ie, make sure you aren't the guy
in the Norden with a stolen credit card. If you trust your friend enough to
bring the device, I'm sure you can trust him enough to buy it. If he can't
afford it, send him the money paypal or western union or something ahead of
time.

--Paul

On 3/28/07, Jesus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This is the history:
>
> I live in Brazil, so I can't buy a N800 here. I have a Nokia developers
> discount code... I got into Nokia's web shop and I tryed to buy the N800
> using my credit card, but I would like to send it (shipping address) to a
> friend of mine who lives in Norden, California because he is comingo to
> Brazil next month and he could bring it to me. But guess what guys: in
> Nokia's web shop my shipping address must be the billing address!!!
> Since I'm from Brazil, my shipping address is from Brazil (and not from
> Norden, California) and Nokia doesn't ship to Brazil!
> In Summary: I have an international credit card (and money!), I have a
> discount code, I have a friend living in US that is coming to Brazil (he
> doesn't have a credit card with billing address in US to!) and I REALLY want
> a N800. Nokia doesn't let me to!
>
> Could anyone help me in anyway ?!!!?!?!?!?!?!?
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jesus
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Re: I just want to buy a N800 but Nokia don't let me do!

2007-03-28 Thread Paul Klapperich

I can't help you at all, but I have a couple of thoughts:
1) Have you tried calling Nokia? Maybe they'll let you do it over the phone.
2) Why don't you just ship it to your address in Brazil?
3) If it's a friend of yours, have him buy and give him the money when he
gives you the N800. The only reason you can't ship to an address other than
your billing address is to prevent fraud--ie, make sure you aren't the guy
in the Norden with a stolen credit card. If you trust your friend enough to
bring the device, I'm sure you can trust him enough to buy it. If he can't
afford it, send him the money paypal or western union or something ahead of
time.

--Paul

On 3/28/07, Jesus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


This is the history:

I live in Brazil, so I can't buy a N800 here. I have a Nokia developers
discount code... I got into Nokia's web shop and I tryed to buy the N800
using my credit card, but I would like to send it (shipping address) to a
friend of mine who lives in Norden, California because he is comingo to
Brazil next month and he could bring it to me. But guess what guys: in
Nokia's web shop my shipping address must be the billing address!!!
Since I'm from Brazil, my shipping address is from Brazil (and not from
Norden, California) and Nokia doesn't ship to Brazil!
In Summary: I have an international credit card (and money!), I have a
discount code, I have a friend living in US that is coming to Brazil (he
doesn't have a credit card with billing address in US to!) and I REALLY want
a N800. Nokia doesn't let me to!

Could anyone help me in anyway ?!!!?!?!?!?!?!?


Thanks in advance,
Jesus

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I just want to buy a N800 but Nokia don't let me do!

2007-03-28 Thread Jesus

This is the history:

I live in Brazil, so I can't buy a N800 here. I have a Nokia developers
discount code... I got into Nokia's web shop and I tryed to buy the N800
using my credit card, but I would like to send it (shipping address) to a
friend of mine who lives in Norden, California because he is comingo to
Brazil next month and he could bring it to me. But guess what guys: in
Nokia's web shop my shipping address must be the billing address!!!
Since I'm from Brazil, my shipping address is from Brazil (and not from
Norden, California) and Nokia doesn't ship to Brazil!
In Summary: I have an international credit card (and money!), I have a
discount code, I have a friend living in US that is coming to Brazil (he
doesn't have a credit card with billing address in US to!) and I REALLY want
a N800. Nokia doesn't let me to!

Could anyone help me in anyway ?!!!?!?!?!?!?!?


Thanks in advance,
Jesus
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Re: [ANN] SyncEvolution 0.6pre1 for addressbook and calendar synchronization

2007-03-28 Thread Patrick Ohly
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 14:35 +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote:
> ext Patrick Ohly wrote:
> > Caveats
> > Under /var/tmp/SyncEvolution-user-scheduleworld a dump of the
> > address book before and after synchronization is created
> > together with a log of the last synchronization. This log is
> > rather verbose and can get large (several MB for many items),
> > so beware!
> 
> Under which user id it works? If you fill the device Flash as "root"
> it will end up in reboot loop.

The normal user id.

> Even if it works as non-root, it leaving logs that user cannot clean
> out is quite bad, so I would recommend in the UI to have a button like
> "clean all logs".

If there was a UI, there certainly would be such a button. The way it is
now, users have to enter "syncevolution " in a shell and then
could do an "rm -r /var/tmp/SyncEvolution*" after ensuring that the log
is no longer needed.

In case someone is worried about filling up the internal flash, the
directory can be changed to something which resides on the flash card by
changing spds/syncml/config.txt:logdir. There's also a feature to keep
the last n logs.

There's no possibility to turn of the logging yet; there simply was no
need for this due to its origin as a desktop application where a few MB
on a hard disk are tolerable... obviously this needs to be changed for
Maemo.

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Re: dead N800

2007-03-28 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext Willie McKemie wrote:
>  I was using a not-Nokia charger and it apparently 
> wasn't charging reliably even though the N800 was telling me that it 
> was charging.

Hm.  I would have thought that it could be able to tell whether charging
actually happens or not.  Maybe you could file a bug to Bugzilla and
mention there the model of the charger you were using (and maybe where
you got it)?


- Eero
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Re: Offline installation of applications

2007-03-28 Thread Zoran Kolic
> Quick question: does the application manager require a internet connection?
> I was trying to install the VIM which I had previously saved on my SD card
> at home. I currently have no WIFI connection but internet and have just
> flashed the newer OS version. But whenever I try to install VIM "from
> file..." it gives me the dialogue "connecting..." and of course never finds
> something. When I cancel I just get the "Unable to refresh list." dialog and
> that's it! Any ideas?

I'm sure that finding the file in opera and having "open" gives you item
in the menu, as well in red pill.
I never tried to add local directory to sources.list. Some prefix looks
needed, don't you think?

  Zoran


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Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-28 Thread Mike Lococo

I think we should stop wasting time on things like this that really
don't matter and concentrate on things that do. In my experience
anything that involves legal takes ages and is very difficult to
change


Hmmm... That's an interesting point and one obviously one that is shared by
Nokia.  My point is simply this - what one person finds a waste of time is
not by another.


In spite of the "wasting time" comment, I don't think anyone is trying 
to say that this bug doesn't matter.  It's been noted that the effort in 
fixing it is substantial (due to the involvement of legal), and it's a 
fact that there is a trivial workaround (clicking ok a few times when 
you flash the device).  There are other bugs that that do not have 
trivial workarounds, some of them have been waiting for fixes much 
longer than this report.  In a world with limited resources, not 
everything can get fixed "right now".


It's also worth noting that someone (marius?) offered to accept a patch 
to disable the dialog in red-pill mode.  If the bug is very important to 
you or anyone else, they can create a fix or organize a 
bounty/sponsorship to encourage someone else to create one.


Thanks,
Mike
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Re: Offline installation of applications

2007-03-28 Thread मयंक जैन (makuchaku)

On 3/28/07, Hinrich Göhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Quick question: does the application manager require a internet connection?
I was trying to install the VIM which I had previously saved on my SD card
at home. I currently have no WIFI connection but internet and have just
flashed the newer OS version. But whenever I try to install VIM "from
file..." it gives me the dialogue "connecting..." and of course never finds
something. When I cancel I just get the "Unable to refresh list." dialog and
that's it! Any ideas?


Hi,

If its a .deb file, you can easily install it throught he xterm -
"dpkg -i app.deb"
If its an *.install file - its just a set of instructions for the app manager.

I hope it helps :)

Makuchaku
http://www.makuchaku.info/blog
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Re: Offline installation of applications

2007-03-28 Thread Marius Vollmer
"ext Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> You may want to try disabling all of your Applicartion Catalogs... That could
> be what the App Manager is trying to connect to.

Nooo, it's not smart enough for that.  Even with all catalogues
disabled, it will still ask for the network...
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Re: Offline installation of applications

2007-03-28 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Hinrich Göhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> But whenever I try to install VIM "from file..." it gives me the
> dialogue "connecting..." and of course never finds something.  When
> I cancel I just get the "Unable to refresh list." dialog and that's
> it!

This sounds as if you don't have the vim package itself, but just the
"vim.install" file.  A .install file doesn't contain the application
itself, it just contains instructions for the Application Manager
where to find the application.
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RE: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-28 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
I hear what you're saying; however, I'm not certain the result is valid.
While you're correct that all of them can be reset, applications can still
cause them to fail.  For example, without all the applications I run
installed, the Palm T3 stays up-and-running without effort.  With all the
applications, it fails at least once a day.  It took me a week to track down
the specific program.  In short, yes, the way the OS' are implemented is
different but the effects of errant applications can be the same.
Regards,

Nick Shaw
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Frantisek Dufka
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:18 AM
To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw
Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote:
> - I don't get a similar statement on a Palm device when I install non-Palm
> software (it's an OS, people install software).
> - I don't get a similar statement on a Windows mobile device when I
install
> non-Windows software.
> - I don't get a similar statement on my cell phone when I install
non-vendor
> software.
> 
> Thus, what makes the tablet different?

I think it is slightly different since in all those examples you have 
simple way to recover because the basic system is in ROM and undamaged 
and you can do 'hard reset' clearing RAM and system boots. On the tablet 
you can remove/break even system files since they are mixed with user 
stuff in same filesystem. The only way to recover is to flash device 
over USB cable which is a bit harder and you need to download firmware 
and flasher. So all those devices are self-repairing, nokia tablet is 
not. I'm not sure this make some legal difference but technically there 
is such difference.

Frantisek
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Re: Offline installation of applications

2007-03-28 Thread Tim
You may want to try disabling all of your Applicartion Catalogs...
That could be what the App Manager is trying to connect to.
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 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:39:36 +0200
 From: " Hinrich G?hlmann " 
 Subject: Offline installation of applications
 To: maemo-users@maemo.org
 Message-ID:
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 Quick question: does the application manager require a internet
connection?
 I was trying to install the VIM which I had previously saved on my
SD card
 at home. I currently have no WIFI connection but internet and have
just
 flashed the newer OS version. But whenever I try to install VIM
"from
 file..." it gives me the dialogue "connecting..." and of course
never finds
 something. When I cancel I just get the "Unable to refresh list."
dialog and
 that's it! Any ideas?
 Cheers,
 hinrich   d8-)
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RE: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-28 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
Hmmm... That's an interesting point and one obviously one that is shared by
Nokia.  My point is simply this - what one person finds a waste of time is
not by another.

I also commend Nokia for their attention to this forum.  That participation
does not, however, alter my concerns or issues.

Nick Shaw
 

-Original Message-
From: Michael Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:05 AM
To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw
Cc: Neil MacLeod; maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

On 27/03/07, Dr. Nicholas Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What bothers me IS the checkbox.  What concerns me about the "legal"
> statement is this:


I think we should stop wasting time on things like this that really
don't matter and concentrate on things that do. In my experience
anything that involves legal takes ages and is very difficult to
change and I think Nokia just want to avoid having to warrant the
device to work with any software. We've already seen that installing
software can make your device "broken" requiring it to be re-flashed
so it seems like a reasonable precaution.

Personally I think Nokia are doing a great job of creating a device
that can be used by open source.

Regards, Michael


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RE: dead N800

2007-03-28 Thread Ismo.Laitinen
 

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Willie McKemie
>Sent: 28 March, 2007 15:23
>To: maemo-users@maemo.org
>Subject: Re: dead N800
>
>On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 10:08:10AM +0300, 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >In trying to flash, I never got beyond the "Suitable USB device not 
>> >found, waiting" point.  Now, the N800 will no longer power 
>up via the 
>> >power button.  It will sometimes
>> >(briefly) display the opening "Nokia" 
>> >screen when the external power is plugged in (or wiggled).
>> 
>> Sounds like you also run out of battery. Have you tried switching the
>
>My face is red!  I was using a not-Nokia charger and it 
>apparently wasn't charging reliably even though the N800 was 
>telling me that it was charging.  I, in error, assumed that it 
>would be charged after spending a night on the charger.  
>Confounding the problem was the lack of any indication of 
>battery state prior to a successful boot; that is, you can't 
>tell if your battery is charged until AFTER it boots successfully.
>
>Anyway, I located the Nokia charger, charged overnight, booted 
>successfully, then flashed to the new image.  All seems well.  
>I am greatly enjoying the new camera application.

Good that the problem was solved! It's always a good idea to use Nokia
chargers and batteries ;-)

-Ismo

>
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Re: Quick launcher and non-DBus commands

2007-03-28 Thread Frantisek Dufka

David Hagood wrote:

The key is to provide the command in the Exec= entry, and to NOT provide
a X-Osso-Service= line. If you provide the service line, then the Exec
will be ignored.


Exactly. I think all the tutorials overuse and stress the importance of 
having the service to the point people think it is required and it is 
causing repeated confusion when people try to add simple icon to 
taskbar. One example today

http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/latest.log.html#t2007-03-28T11:01:29

Non-GTK programs doesn't need it and even some gtk-based maemo-ized apps 
may make sense without registering as a service.

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Offline installation of applications

2007-03-28 Thread Hinrich Göhlmann

Quick question: does the application manager require a internet connection?
I was trying to install the VIM which I had previously saved on my SD card
at home. I currently have no WIFI connection but internet and have just
flashed the newer OS version. But whenever I try to install VIM "from
file..." it gives me the dialogue "connecting..." and of course never finds
something. When I cancel I just get the "Unable to refresh list." dialog and
that's it! Any ideas?

Cheers,
hinrich   d8-)
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Re: dead N800

2007-03-28 Thread Willie McKemie
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 10:08:10AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >In trying to flash, I never got beyond the "Suitable USB 
> >device not found, waiting" point.  Now, the N800 will no 
> >longer power up via the power button.  It will sometimes 
> >(briefly) display the opening "Nokia" 
> >screen when the external power is plugged in (or wiggled).
> 
> Sounds like you also run out of battery. Have you tried switching the

My face is red!  I was using a not-Nokia charger and it apparently 
wasn't charging reliably even though the N800 was telling me that it 
was charging.  I, in error, assumed that it would be charged after 
spending a night on the charger.  Confounding the problem was the lack 
of any indication of battery state prior to a successful boot; that is, 
you can't tell if your battery is charged until AFTER it boots 
successfully.

Anyway, I located the Nokia charger, charged overnight, booted 
successfully, then flashed to the new image.  All seems well.  I am 
greatly enjoying the new camera application.

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Re: Home key on powerup

2007-03-28 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 02:56:25PM +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote:
> > What does the Home button do?  I've always used the flasher just by
> > plugging in the cable and turning the device on.
> 
> Without it the bootloader doesn't wait for the flasher more than a
> couple of secs before continuing booting (at least when R&D mode is on).
> I guess in this case flashing works if you start flasher first and
> only then turn on the device.

That's what I've always done.

Marius Gedminas
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Re: Home key on powerup

2007-03-28 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext Marius Gedminas wrote:
>> Did you:
>> - plug in USB cable
>> - keep "home" key pressed down
>> - press "power" button until the device screen lits up
>> ?

This is how I've always done it. :-)

> What does the Home button do?  I've always used the flasher just by
> plugging in the cable and turning the device on.

Without it the bootloader doesn't wait for the flasher more than a
couple of secs before continuing booting (at least when R&D mode is on).
I guess in this case flashing works if you start flasher first and
only then turn on the device.


- Eero
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Re: Quick launcher and non-DBus commands

2007-03-28 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 03:26:51PM +0400, Mikhail Sobolev wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 06:15:47AM -0500, David Hagood wrote:
> > Well, I've worked out how to launch a given program in a shell and to
> > create a .desktop file to allow that command to be added to the menus.
> > The key is to provide the command in the Exec= entry, and to NOT provide
> > a X-Osso-Service= line. If you provide the service line, then the Exec
> > will be ignored.
> > 
> > However, I cannot add such items to the quick launcher desktop applet -
> > it seems to me that the quick launcher requires the X-Osso-Service line.
> > 
> > Is this right?
> Yes, you are correct.  I'll release version 0.9.3 (I need to come home
> to upload it to the repository :), but it's also possible to just make
> it available through garage file download section.
I released version 0.9.3 and made it available at garage:
  Info: https://garage.maemo.org/frs/shownotes.php?release_id=538
  D/L: https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=131

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Re: Home key on powerup

2007-03-28 Thread kender

> What does the Home button do?

Keeps waiting for the flasher indefinitely. Allows you to run flasher a
bit later. This is also a must for me when flashing from vmware even
when you already have flasher running inside the VM and waiting. It
takes some time for VMware to initialize its windows driver and get data
into the VM. Without home key device gives up too soon.


Ops, so I understand it wrong. :S

Apologises
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Re: Home key on powerup

2007-03-28 Thread Frantisek Dufka

Marius Gedminas wrote:

What does the Home button do? 


Keeps waiting for the flasher indefinitely. Allows you to run flasher a 
bit later. This is also a must for me when flashing from vmware even 
when you already have flasher running inside the VM and waiting. It 
takes some time for VMware to initialize its windows driver and get data 
into the VM. Without home key device gives up too soon.

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Re: Home key on powerup

2007-03-28 Thread kender

On 3/28/07, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 02:30:28PM +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote:
> Did you:
> - plug in USB cable
> - keep "home" key pressed down
> - press "power" button until the device screen lits up
> ?

What does the Home button do?  I've always used the flasher just by
plugging in the cable and turning the device on.



I think that if you hold the Home button during the boot boot process,
the bootloader skips the "waiting time" for an a usb cable and flasher
request.
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Re: [ANN] SyncEvolution 0.6pre1 for addressbook and calendar synchronization

2007-03-28 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext Patrick Ohly wrote:
> Caveats
> Under /var/tmp/SyncEvolution-user-scheduleworld a dump of the
> address book before and after synchronization is created
> together with a log of the last synchronization. This log is
> rather verbose and can get large (several MB for many items),
> so beware!

Under which user id it works?  If you fill the device Flash as "root"
it will end up in reboot loop.

Even if it works as non-root, it leaving logs that user cannot clean
out is quite bad, so I would recommend in the UI to have a button like
"clean all logs".  This UI would then need to be able to start although
Flash is filled (as full as user can fill the Flash).


- Eero
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Home key on powerup

2007-03-28 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 02:30:28PM +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote:
> Did you:
> - plug in USB cable
> - keep "home" key pressed down
> - press "power" button until the device screen lits up
> ?

What does the Home button do?  I've always used the flasher just by
plugging in the cable and turning the device on.

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Re: Camera app slow, locks up?

2007-03-28 Thread Neil MacLeod

David Hagood wrote:

Does anybody else find that the Camera application is slow, and
occasionally locks up the unit?

What I see is that for the first several seconds after starting, the
camera app's update rate is fairly fast (though not as fast as the video
call app - about one-half as fast). After a few seconds, then the video
update rates slows down to about an update a second. Then after a few
more seconds it stops, and the unit is pretty much locked up. Sometimes
I can close the camera app, sometimes I have to reboot the unit (by
holding down on the power key for several seconds).



Yeah, it's unusable here. The OS quite often offers to close the Camera 
application as it has stopped responding. The application consumes massive 
amounts of CPU and the low frame rate (~5fps, sometimes less than 1fps) makes 
framing a shot next to impossible.

Definately needs more work as it's not currently usable - but even if it were, 
the camera image quality when indoors is frankly awful (this applies to 
internet web video too).


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RE: Camera app slow, locks up?

2007-03-28 Thread Jakub.Pavelek
Agree here. I had higher hopes for it, especially singe its existence
made me forget about making own camera application months ago.

On the possitive side there is another camera application project on
garage and no-one stops us from making a a far better application with
open source ;)

Br,

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>Subject: Re: Camera app slow, locks up?
>
>It's brutal ...  seems like this was an exercise to "check the box"
>since there's a camera in there
>
>On 3/28/07, David Hagood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Does anybody else find that the Camera application is slow, and 
>> occasionally locks up the unit?
>>
>> What I see is that for the first several seconds after starting, the 
>> camera app's update rate is fairly fast (though not as fast as the 
>> video call app - about one-half as fast). After a few seconds, then 
>> the video update rates slows down to about an update a second. Then 
>> after a few more seconds it stops, and the unit is pretty 
>much locked 
>> up. Sometimes I can close the camera app, sometimes I have to reboot 
>> the unit (by holding down on the power key for several seconds).
>>
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Re: dead N800

2007-03-28 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> You should be able to upgrade to the new version (3.2007.10-7). It 
>>> might be enough to fix the problem.
>> In trying to flash, I never got beyond the "Suitable USB 
>> device not found, waiting" point.

Did you:
- plug in USB cable
- keep "home" key pressed down
- press "power" button until the device screen lits up
?

The device needs to be powered on, otherwise it cannot
be found on USB.


>> Now, the N800 will no 
>> longer power up via the power button.  It will sometimes 
>> (briefly) display the opening "Nokia" 
>> screen when the external power is plugged in (or wiggled).
> 
> Sounds like you also run out of battery. Have you tried switching the
> device to R&D-mode with the flasher tool? It workarounds some powerup 
> problems in the old image (fixed in new image). That might allow you 
> to recharge and reflash the device. Be sure to disable R&D-mode 
> afterwards!
> 
> If that doesn't help, there's not much you can do I'm afraid.

If the device doesn't have enough battery to appear on the USB
and keep up long enough so that flasher would find it, only thing
that can be done is to change into the device a battery that has
been charged somewhere else (e.g. battery from one of the N-series
phones).


- Eero
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Re: Quick launcher and non-DBus commands

2007-03-28 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
Hi David

On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 06:15:47AM -0500, David Hagood wrote:
> Well, I've worked out how to launch a given program in a shell and to
> create a .desktop file to allow that command to be added to the menus.
> The key is to provide the command in the Exec= entry, and to NOT provide
> a X-Osso-Service= line. If you provide the service line, then the Exec
> will be ignored.
> 
> However, I cannot add such items to the quick launcher desktop applet -
> it seems to me that the quick launcher requires the X-Osso-Service line.
> 
> Is this right?
Yes, you are correct.  I'll release version 0.9.3 (I need to come home
to upload it to the repository :), but it's also possible to just make
it available through garage file download section.

I'd appreciate your feedback on that.

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Re: Camera app slow, locks up?

2007-03-28 Thread Jonathan Greene

It's brutal ...  seems like this was an exercise to "check the box"
since there's a camera in there

On 3/28/07, David Hagood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Does anybody else find that the Camera application is slow, and
occasionally locks up the unit?

What I see is that for the first several seconds after starting, the
camera app's update rate is fairly fast (though not as fast as the video
call app - about one-half as fast). After a few seconds, then the video
update rates slows down to about an update a second. Then after a few
more seconds it stops, and the unit is pretty much locked up. Sometimes
I can close the camera app, sometimes I have to reboot the unit (by
holding down on the power key for several seconds).


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Camera app slow, locks up?

2007-03-28 Thread David Hagood

Does anybody else find that the Camera application is slow, and
occasionally locks up the unit?

What I see is that for the first several seconds after starting, the
camera app's update rate is fairly fast (though not as fast as the video
call app - about one-half as fast). After a few seconds, then the video
update rates slows down to about an update a second. Then after a few
more seconds it stops, and the unit is pretty much locked up. Sometimes
I can close the camera app, sometimes I have to reboot the unit (by
holding down on the power key for several seconds).


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Quick launcher and non-DBus commands

2007-03-28 Thread David Hagood

Well, I've worked out how to launch a given program in a shell and to
create a .desktop file to allow that command to be added to the menus.
The key is to provide the command in the Exec= entry, and to NOT provide
a X-Osso-Service= line. If you provide the service line, then the Exec
will be ignored.

However, I cannot add such items to the quick launcher desktop applet -
it seems to me that the quick launcher requires the X-Osso-Service line.

Is this right?


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