Re: "click to install" for UKMP Does not work Properly

2007-08-22 Thread Kemal Hadimli
This is also about the author not using one click .install files (and
garage repositories) instead pointing the maemo.org downloads page to
the actual deb file.

On 8/22/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But why is http://maemo.org/downloads/product/ukmp "Click to install"
> arrow linking to a .deb file in garage instead of an .install file?
>
> On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 21:49 +0300, ext Tuukka Tolvanen wrote:
> > Acadia Secure Networks wrote:
> >
> > > I tried to use the "click to install" for the UKMP app on the www page
> > > whose url is:
> > >
> > >http://maemo.org/downloads/product/ukmp
> > >
> > > but the N800 on only allows me to save an  .deb file characterized as
> > > "unknown". It does not, as it should, if I understand "click to install"
> > > correctly, ask for permission to run/install the file. I have python and
> > > mplayer installed so I don't think that that is the problem.
> >
> > This is https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1807
> >
> > 't.
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I want to connect a laptop to the N800 with bt OR usb, how can I then use the N800 as a wifi modem all day long?

2007-08-22 Thread Oouc
Is bt OR usb a better connection if I use the N800 as a wifi modem?
What if I just want to use the laptop keyboard to type stuff into 
xterm or other portions of the N800?  Will the no host N800 usb make 
that impossible through usb?  Can it be done easily with bluetooth?

Something similar to this subject was discussed over a year ago.
Since my laptop has lost her wifi, connecting to the N800 and using
the N800 as a modem is very important to me.  I am on an extended 
trip and have Internet access to wifi but not ethernet.  I have a 
lot of work to do in a short time and having my laptop cut off 
from the Internet is a big problem.  The N800 connects easily to 
the Internet but without my usual big screen, hard disk, and many 
other advantages of the laptop over the N800;  twelve hours a day 
on the N800 is only a small fraction of the productive of 12 hours 
a day on the laptop.  The N800 modem is an excellent solution.  So 
how do I use it as such?
Thanks,
Oouc

>From Kalle.Valo at nokia.com  Thu Mar 30 13:13:26 2006
From: Kalle.Valo at nokia.com (Kalle Valo)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:13:26 +0300
Subject: [maemo-developers] WLAN and bluetooth modem on at the same time?
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (ext Teemu Harju's
message of "Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:04:44 +0200")
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

"Teemu Harju"  writes:

> Is it somehow possible to use the WLAN and bluetooth modem with my phone at
> the same time on Nokia 770? The UI doesn't seem to allow this, but are there
> some scripts that I could run from Xterm to achieve this? My idea would be
> to use the Nokia 770 as a gateway from ad-hoc WLAN to public Internet via
> 3G. I'd probably need to make some changes to the routing tables also, but
> that I think I could figure those out if I got both connections up.

Yes, that's possible if you are willing to do some hacking. You could
first establish the 3G connection normally from the UI and then setup
the WLAN network manually:

ifconfig wlan0 up
iwconfig wlan0 mode Ad-Hoc essid mynetwork

After this you need to setup NAT and routing. You can find iwconfig
from the wireless-tools debian package.

-- 
Kalle Valo



tuomas.kuosmanen at nokia.com 
Subject: [maemo-developers] WLAN and bluetooth modem on at the same time?
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, 2006-03-30 at 13:45 +0300, ext Teemu Harju wrote:
> Thanks... that is probably the easier way. I was kind of trying to do
> it the hard way by establishing the 3G connection manually. How stupid
> of me.

This would make a nice and useful tool if it was made mostly automatic
to setup and easy to use. I'd help with the user interface if someone
thinks this is a good idea with python for example?

//Tuomas


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Re: 770 brick

2007-08-22 Thread Neil MacLeod
David Grau Serra wrote:
> My nokia 770 has the same problem, I am trying update the software 
> (latest 2006) but I have the same results :-(
> 
> Any suggestion? well, keep reading...
> 
> En/na Neil MacLeod ha escrit:
>> Jonathan Greene wrote:
>>   
>>> Anything like this -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/atmasphere/362764796/
>>>
>>> Sounds like the 770 White Screen of Death...
>>>
>>> 
>> Doesn't sound like the WSOD to be honest, as this fault doesn't stop the 
>> device from booting. Frank sounds like he's suffering from some other fault, 
>> what I don't know. :(
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Which problem do you have? The same problem as Frank, or the WSOD? If the 
latter your only option is replacement (if it's new and the retailer will 
replace it) or a Nokia in-warranty repair.

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Re: Need an SSH client for the Nokia 800

2007-08-22 Thread Neil MacLeod
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What's more you often want the server and client on different machines, 
> which may have different hardware and different operating systems.  So 
> neither system will need both server and client.
> 
> And standard security protocols insist that you only run the servers you 
> need on the machines where you need them.
> 
> -- hendrik

I quite agree, however I almost exclusively need the server component on the 
N800 - I very rarely ssh from the N800 to another machine, it's almost always 
the other way around. However installing the server appears to install the 
client, which is why I don't see much point in offering the client as a 
separate install (which may lead to confusion for novices) although I suppose 
the presence of client is valid for a small number of "power users" who 
categorically don't need the server.

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Re: Cannot Install SSH Server

2007-08-22 Thread Neil MacLeod
Hal Vaughan wrote:
> I've been searching all over Maemo and on the Internet.  I want to 
> install either dropbear or an ssh server on my Nokia 770.  The pages in 
> the wiki have several steps, but basically use what's in
> 
> http://repository.maemo.org mistral free non-free
> 
> but all that has is ssh client.  All the links for dropbear aren't 
> working.
> 
> How can I get an ssh server on my Nokia 770?  I'd like to be able to set 
> up some scripts for syncing data on my Nokia with some programs on my 
> Linux workstation.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Hal
If you install openssh as root using "apt-get install ssh" you should end up 
with both the server and client tools installed.

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Re: Need an SSH client for the Nokia 800

2007-08-22 Thread Wayne Fiori
On 8/22/07, Neil MacLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I quite agree, however I almost exclusively need the server component on the 
> N800 - I very rarely ssh from the N800 to another machine, it's almost always 
> the other way around. However installing the server appears to install the 
> client, which is why I don't see much point in offering the client as a 
> separate install (which may lead to confusion for novices) although I suppose 
> the presence of client is valid for a small number of "power users" who 
> categorically don't need the server.
>

I would hardly characterize using the N800 has a terminal (ssh client)
as the province of power users.
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Re: 770 brick

2007-08-22 Thread David Grau Serra

>> My nokia 770 has the same problem, I am trying update the software 
>> (latest 2006) but I have the same results :-(
>>
>> Any suggestion? well, keep reading...
>>
>> En/na Neil MacLeod ha escrit:
>> 
>>> Jonathan Greene wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
 Anything like this -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/atmasphere/362764796/

 Sounds like the 770 White Screen of Death...

 
 
>>> Doesn't sound like the WSOD to be honest, as this fault doesn't stop the 
>>> device from booting. Frank sounds like he's suffering from some other 
>>> fault, what I don't know. :(
>>>
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>>>   
> Which problem do you have? The same problem as Frank, or the WSOD? If the 
> latter your only option is replacement (if it's new and the retailer will 
> replace it) or a Nokia in-warranty repair.
>   

The problem is WSOD, but I bought by ebay... Can I replace the battery 
from N800? Is it the same battery?

Thanks in advance,

David
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Re: Cannot Install SSH Server

2007-08-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 22 August 2007, Neil MacLeod wrote:
> Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > I've been searching all over Maemo and on the Internet.  I want to
> > install either dropbear or an ssh server on my Nokia 770.  The
> > pages in the wiki have several steps, but basically use what's in
> >
> > http://repository.maemo.org mistral free non-free
> >
> > but all that has is ssh client.  All the links for dropbear aren't
> > working.
> >
> > How can I get an ssh server on my Nokia 770?  I'd like to be able
> > to set up some scripts for syncing data on my Nokia with some
> > programs on my Linux workstation.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Hal
>
> If you install openssh as root using "apt-get install ssh" you should
> end up with both the server and client tools installed.

I finally got it.  The problem is that it's in the extras repository (at 
least for mistral) and that was not documented anywhere, at least that 
I found -- and I did search the site and other sites as well.  Can 
someone update the main repository list to include that information?

Hal
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Re: Need an SSH client for the Nokia 800

2007-08-22 Thread Neil MacLeod
Wayne Fiori wrote:
> On 8/22/07, Neil MacLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I quite agree, however I almost exclusively need the server component on the 
>> N800 - I very rarely ssh from the N800 to another machine, it's almost 
>> always the other way around. However installing the server appears to 
>> install the client, which is why I don't see much point in offering the 
>> client as a separate install (which may lead to confusion for novices) 
>> although I suppose the presence of client is valid for a small number of 
>> "power users" who categorically don't need the server.
>>
> 
> I would hardly characterize using the N800 has a terminal (ssh client)
> as the province of power users.
> --
> =Wayne
I would hardly expect novice users to be needing that kind of functionality... 
perhaps "power user" was a bit excessive. :) On the whole though, I would 
expect the server component to be installed far more often than the client-only 
component... and those few people who don't want the server can always stop it 
from running.

All I'm saying is that up until now we've had a single openssh package which 
seems to have worked well, why now create two separate packages, one of which 
installs the other? The benefit from having a client-only package seems 
minimal. My preference would be to rename the new server package "Server & 
Client" and drop the new client-only package, however I doubt that will happen 
and fully expect to see new users on the IIT forums installing the client-only 
package by mistake and needing hand-holding to fix it (not that it's hard to 
fix it, but then it's not hard to stop the server running either!).

:)

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Re: 770 brick

2007-08-22 Thread Neil MacLeod
David Grau Serra wrote:
>> Which problem do you have? The same problem as Frank, or the WSOD? If the 
>> latter your only option is replacement (if it's new and the retailer will 
>> replace it) or a Nokia in-warranty repair.
>>   
> 
> The problem is WSOD, but I bought by ebay... Can I replace the battery 
> from N800? Is it the same battery?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> David

Search the ITT Forums for WSOD - it's a design fault that leads to the failure 
of a component in the LCD display. Your device is knackered, and it now needs a 
repair by Nokia. Short of replacing the LCD yourself there is nothing you can 
do; replacing the battery will not help.

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Re: Cannot Install SSH Server

2007-08-22 Thread Neil MacLeod
Hal Vaughan wrote:
>> If you install openssh as root using "apt-get install ssh" you should
>> end up with both the server and client tools installed.
> 
> I finally got it.  The problem is that it's in the extras repository (at 
> least for mistral) and that was not documented anywhere, at least that 
> I found -- and I did search the site and other sites as well.  Can 
> someone update the main repository list to include that information?
> 
> Hal


This looks to be a result of the new server and client openssh packages 
recently placed in extras. The old combined server & client openssh package 
should still be in repository.org mistral free unless someone has removed it 
(doesn't look like it).

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Re: Cannot Install SSH Server

2007-08-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 22 August 2007, Neil MacLeod wrote:
> Hal Vaughan wrote:
> >> If you install openssh as root using "apt-get install ssh" you
> >> should end up with both the server and client tools installed.
> >
> > I finally got it.  The problem is that it's in the extras
> > repository (at least for mistral) and that was not documented
> > anywhere, at least that I found -- and I did search the site and
> > other sites as well.  Can someone update the main repository list
> > to include that information?
> >
> > Hal
>
> This looks to be a result of the new server and client openssh
> packages recently placed in extras. The old combined server & client
> openssh package should still be in repository.org mistral free unless
> someone has removed it (doesn't look like it).

I tried, several times, from directions on two separate pages, to 
install the ssh server from repository.maemo.org mistral free and it 
wasn't there.  The client was there, but not the server (and the 
description in the App Manager specifically said it was the client).

What are the "rules" for membership and wiki editing?  If I create an 
account can I just add this info myself to the repositories list?  I 
figure stating that openssh client and server are in the extras/free 
would have made the difference for me and I would never have had to 
post this question.

Hal
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Nokia 770 in a hollywood movie

2007-08-22 Thread Mathias Uebelacker
Good Evening,

just a short "marketing message" :-) I am just back from showing a movie
(Fantastic 4 - Rise of the silver surfer) and just after the beginning
-you will see the team leader in his laboratory with a lot of unknown
hightech - the camera moves to his hands and ...he plays with a Nokia
770. 

br
Mathias

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Re: Nokia 770 in a hollywood movie

2007-08-22 Thread Quim Gil
Yes, this is old news

http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6836
http://treitter.livejournal.com/1487.html
http://www.gnome.org/~fherrera/blog/Fantastic.html?showcomments=yes
(pictured)

I'm personally waiting for a movie showing a tablet in real life,
though. If possible with a stock maemo, not an IT OS 2006 Mr.F
Edition.  ;)


On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 23:20 +0200, ext Mathias Uebelacker wrote:
> Good Evening,
> 
> just a short "marketing message" :-) I am just back from showing a movie
> (Fantastic 4 - Rise of the silver surfer) and just after the beginning
> -you will see the team leader in his laboratory with a lot of unknown
> hightech - the camera moves to his hands and ...he plays with a Nokia
> 770. 
> 
> br
> Mathias
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Re: Cannot Install SSH Server

2007-08-22 Thread Ed Bartosh
On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 14:14 -0400, ext Hal Vaughan wrote:
> On Wednesday 22 August 2007, Neil MacLeod wrote:
> > Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > >> If you install openssh as root using "apt-get install ssh" you
> > >> should end up with both the server and client tools installed.
> > >
> > > I finally got it.  The problem is that it's in the extras
> > > repository (at least for mistral) and that was not documented
> > > anywhere, at least that I found -- and I did search the site and
> > > other sites as well.  Can someone update the main repository list
> > > to include that information?
> > >
> > > Hal
> >
> > This looks to be a result of the new server and client openssh
> > packages recently placed in extras. The old combined server & client
> > openssh package should still be in repository.org mistral free unless
> > someone has removed it (doesn't look like it).
> 
> I tried, several times, from directions on two separate pages, to 
> install the ssh server from repository.maemo.org mistral free and it 
> wasn't there.  The client was there, but not the server (and the 
> description in the App Manager specifically said it was the client).
> 
> What are the "rules" for membership and wiki editing?  If I create an 
> account can I just add this info myself to the repositories list?  I 
> figure stating that openssh client and server are in the extras/free 
> would have made the difference for me and I would never have had to 
> post this question.
> 
I'll add both openssh client and openssh-server .install files to
maemo/downloads as soon as I have approval for openssh garage project.
Waiting for 2 days already :(
As for now it's pretty simple - add mistral/extras(770) or
bora/extras(N800) to AM repository list and you will be able to install
both client and server using AM. No xterm/becomeroot and other black
magic is needed anymore :)


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Nokia-M/Helsinki
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