apps install problem
Mind if I ask another dumb question? Downloaded base-repository.install (for OS2007) to Mac mini. Uploaded base-repository.install from Mac mini to n800 via USB. No problem. Application Manager - Application - Install from file... - Select application - Removable memory card - base-repository - Add new catalog? - OK - Select connection - Cancel - Unable to refresh list. Last refreshed list is shown. Changing to offline mode did no good. The n800 insisted on making a wireless connection to the web. The thing is, no wireless hotspot is available to me now. I'm planning to install a WAP in my room and connect it to a wired router eventually, but not tonight. Am I doing something wrong? There must be some way to install apps without WiFi. Tallyho, Thomas Armagost [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sillyblog.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: apps install problem
2008/1/11, Thomas Armagost [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mind if I ask another dumb question? Downloaded base-repository.install (for OS2007) to Mac mini. Uploaded base-repository.install from Mac mini to n800 via USB. No problem. If you download a base-repository.install, this will give information to the Application Manager to configure a new deb repository. That's not what you need. What you need is to download a deb package, and then install it directly. Application Manager - Application - Install from file... - Select application - Removable memory card - base-repository - Add new catalog? - OK - Select connection - Cancel - Unable to refresh list. Last refreshed list is shown. If you've got no wi-fi connection, then Application Manager is unable to refresh package list. You need to do so every time you change your repositories. Changing to offline mode did no good. The n800 insisted on making a wireless connection to the web. The thing is, no wireless hotspot is available to me now. I'm planning to install a WAP in my room and connect it to a wired router eventually, but not tonight. Am I doing something wrong? There must be some way to install apps without WiFi. Sure, just manually download the deb packages directly from the web repositories to your PC and then transfer them to your tablet via USB. Then install them directly with Application Manager. Tallyho, Thomas Armagost [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sillyblog.net Salut, Sebas. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: fm radio
ext Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just what I was thinking. My first guess would be that there's a GPIO for this. Anyone interested should check the kernel sources. And with luck there's already a sysfs interface. /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/headphone/state Bingo! Thanks for finding this. -- Kalle Valo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
discount code CANCELED
I have used the discount code, but nokia WANT BACK the device. what is going on. QUIMM please, ive put a friend of mine in trouble to get it and now its difficult to return it Details here http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=125459#post125459 - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 Web Cam Usage
I do have 4 on both. I think I'm not authorized yet to make calls, so maybe that's why I can't seem to make it work. What I would love is a port of Ekiga http://ekiga.org/ oh, well Chris On Jan 11, 2008 10:04 AM, Kevin T. Neely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 12:02:23PM -0500, Chris wrote: Issue: Grandma has a PC with no web cam. I, of course, have the N800. I want to have a video conference with Grandma so she can see me. Solution seems obvious: get Grandma an N800! with other N800 users only. Skype, no video. Gizmo is supposed to have video, but my test (n800 to PC) have failed. I can only IM between the two. Did you have the 4.x Gizmo clients installed on both? (it might still be in beta for one or both platforms). Did you check for firewall issues? I have had to make firewall changes for the voice aspect of Gizmo, but I've never played with the video functionality. hope that helps, K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHh4V7E+4TUALb7FERArFdAKCLoayETiU/iqj2nPauz8O3lUU0RgCeOUBA HHPzRCVUy6N+65CYt80N3NU= =dFb2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
On/Off switch problem
I have an odd problem - my N800 is almost impossible to switch on! I have to hold down the on/off switch for a long time (1 minute or so) for the device to boot. Removing the battery briefly seems to cure it - it turns on immediately after replacing the battery. Is the switch polled at a regular interval? How does this work and might re-flashing sort it out? Cheers Julian ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: apps install problem
2008/1/11, Thomas Armagost [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm exploring the mysteries of Red Pill Mode. It's completely unnecessary if you manage to install via apt-get in an xterm. I noticed a blog item claiming that Red Pill Mode bricked an n800. No problem. As Marius said you can then re-flash the device. I've done that several times experiencing with new system configuration. Maybe I should use the flasher to install OS2008. Then I could use xterm. I'll assume that WiFi would no longer be mandatory then. If you're able to use xterm, then you'll find a real Debian system with usual features. But I don't understand your remark about WiFi. Every time you change your /etc/apt/sources.list, you should run 'apt-get update' with an active internet connection. It's the same. I'll probably just install a WAP and connect it to a wired router. I have a flat rate for my mobile phone internet connection, so that I always connect via bluetooth, unless I'm in the nearby of a WAP. Tallyho, Thomas Armagost [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sillyblog.net Salut, Sebas. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 Web Cam Usage
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 12:02:23PM -0500, Chris wrote: Issue: Grandma has a PC with no web cam. I, of course, have the N800. I want to have a video conference with Grandma so she can see me. Solution seems obvious: get Grandma an N800! with other N800 users only. Skype, no video. Gizmo is supposed to have video, but my test (n800 to PC) have failed. I can only IM between the two. Did you have the 4.x Gizmo clients installed on both? (it might still be in beta for one or both platforms). Did you check for firewall issues? I have had to make firewall changes for the voice aspect of Gizmo, but I've never played with the video functionality. hope that helps, K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
evince for os2008
Is there a version of evince for os2008 out there. It was my absolute favored pdf-reader at os2007 because of the cool toc-functionally. Any ideas Jan ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: apps install problem
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 03:54:44AM -0800, Thomas Armagost wrote: Thanks for your response. sebastian wrote: If you download a base-repository.install, this will give information to the Application Manager to configure a new deb repository. That's not what you need. What you need is to download a deb package, and then install it directly. I'm exploring the mysteries of Red Pill Mode. http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationManagerRedPillMode This mode used to be an easter egg. I noticed a blog item claiming that Red Pill Mode bricked an n800. It would be more accurate to say that Red Pill Mode gives you enough rope to brick your N800. For example, try to remove some essential systems packages. Or upgrade busybox to the SDK version that isn't compatible with the device. Or just upgrade an essential system daemon so that the watchdog (dsme?) notices it got killed during the upgrade and reboots the device before the new version of the daemon is fully installed. Fun things like that. At least the bricking is not final -- you can reflash. Marius Gedminas -- In general, it is safe and legal to kill your children and their children POSIX Prg Gt, by Donald Lewine, O'Reilly Associates, 1991, p.110 (On process termination) -- http://lambda.weblogs.com/discuss/msgReader$7635?mode=day signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
USB Ethernet
My last pocket Linux device was the fabulous Archos PMA400. This had both client and host USB ports as standard, and the host port could be used to connect to a network via a simple USB Ethernet adapter. This worked well when a wifi network was not available, but a wired router was. The USB Ethernet connection was able to use a wide range of USB Ethernet adapters (e.g. those based on the widely used ASIX ax8817x chipset). I am happily switching the N800 USB port into host mode and back again to client mode, however in host mode it seems to expect to find a file system (using the echo host /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode command). Is there an alternative command or script which might poke the N800 into looking for a network connection? As you can probably tell, I am very much a Linux noob, so although I have grasped some Linux concepts fairly well, others are still waiting for that learning curve to catch up. Cheers Julian ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: List of Repository for OS2008
On Jan 11, 2008 6:40 PM, Austin Che [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Flegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I really think this is papering over the cracks. We need to sort out the repository mess: all software should be in extras (or extras-devel for alpha/beta-level software), with no dependencies on any other repo unless it is installed by default. I've asked for upload permissions to extras twice by emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] with no response either time. For me, and most likely others, it's just simpler and less hassle to just copy packages on to a web server. I know it's easier for the developer. But it's not easier for the user. Honestly, 1 developer n users; and I say that sitting in both camps. If there's a problem with getting upload rights, that needs to be highlighted and resolved. Possibly by an email to maemo-developers and a bug in Bugzilla? Others may have better suggestions for how to get the issue resolved. Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: List of Repository for OS2008
Andrew Flegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I really think this is papering over the cracks. We need to sort out the repository mess: all software should be in extras (or extras-devel for alpha/beta-level software), with no dependencies on any other repo unless it is installed by default. The current situation is untenable but anything but the most dedicated user and hacks like gronmayer, or Red Pill mode, don't help towards a user friendly solution. /soap-box I've asked for upload permissions to extras twice by emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] with no response either time. For me, and most likely others, it's just simpler and less hassle to just copy packages on to a web server. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: List of Repository for OS2008
On Jan 11, 2008 5:42 PM, Antonio Di Cello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday I arrived the n810 I immediately updated kernel, and I wanted to begin to test applications, I wanted to know if there is a list of all the repositories for the new official OS2008 (already included in the device) and unofficial. http://www.gronmayer.com/it/ However, I really think this is papering over the cracks. We need to sort out the repository mess: all software should be in extras (or extras-devel for alpha/beta-level software), with no dependencies on any other repo unless it is installed by default. The current situation is untenable but anything but the most dedicated user and hacks like gronmayer, or Red Pill mode, don't help towards a user friendly solution. /soap-box Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: List of Repository for OS2008
This is the best one I know - http://gronmayer.com/it/index.php?lang=ensystem=maemo4 If you visit from your tablet, you can add what you want in a few clicks. On Jan 11, 2008 12:42 PM, Antonio Di Cello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Yesterday I arrived the n810 I immediately updated kernel, and I wanted to begin to test applications, I wanted to know if there is a list of all the repositories for the new official OS2008 (already included in the device) and unofficial. bye ADC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: List of Repository for OS2008
Norman Ramsey wrote: There are other good reasons to have a central repository but I don't really buy the ease of use argument for the user. The end user still has to enable the extras repository. It would be just as easy for a user to install a meta package, maybe call it maemo-universe, which adds every single repository in the universe to the sources list. For example, if it added all the repositories listed at http://www.gronmayer.com/it/, the end-user doesn't need to know the difference that n repositories were added versus one. The meta package could automatically update as new repositories are added/removed. Of course there are issues about trusting repositories, quality, etc. but that isn't an issue really solved with the extras repository unless some Nokia person is actually checking packages submitted to extras (which I doubt). I would trust a maemo-universe package with a repository list created by the community just as much as a random package in extras. As a long-time Debian user and even longer-time Unix developer, I look at the maemo world and see chaos. I'd love to build and port some apps but the barrier to entry is just too high. And as a user I see only confusion. The maemo community would benefit greatly if a nucleus of volunteers would step forward to implement some of the social apparatus behind Debian: * A body of package maintainers who are trusted to make sure that packages are OK. * GPG keys with which trusted maintainers can *sign* packages. * A *small* number of repositories with clearly defined missions. (As a user, I want to *understand* /etc/apt/sources.list and know who is signing the repositories that are in it.) * A process by which anybody can become a package maintainer. It's too bad Nokia didn't bootstrap such a process, but they didn't. In fact, I think Nokia is making the problem worse by making critical applications closed-source. (Or at least if the source to things like Email, RSS Reader, and Clock is available, I can't find it.) I can understand there is a business case about keeping device drivers as closed source, although this is a question about which reasonable people can differ. I can't see *any* reason why *any* application should be closed-source. This doesn't benefit Nokia, and it inhibits the formation of a community because only Nokia can see the major applications. If anyone at Nokia is listening, I think if you move to a model of open source apps, open-source kernel, proprietary device drivers, which is a model the community understands, in the long run you are going to sell a *lot* more tablets! Norman, I was in the process of writing an email along the same lines. I have been a long-term Linux user and programmer and must say that chaos abounds in OS200?/maemo land, sadly. I have an N800 and it is a very cool device, but the documentation, tutorials, howto, training materials - they all seem to rehash the same stuff in various ways, too many links to follow, too many combinations of OS/software versions that work or don't work in a particular setup, the number of repositories is confusing and in general I feel a bit lost. This whole mess could be easily resolved with the suggestions you provided above. Cheers, Ognen ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: List of Repository for OS2008
En/na Austin Che ha escrit: For example, if it added all the repositories listed at http://www.gronmayer.com/it/, the end-user doesn't need to know the difference that n repositories were added versus one. But he would then have to know the difference between, say, wireless-tools and wirelesstools (the former, btw, is in 2 different repositories listed at gronmayer.com, and it doesn't help that application manager doesn't list the repository the package is available from). Bye -- Luca ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
List of Repository for OS2008
Hi, Yesterday I arrived the n810 I immediately updated kernel, and I wanted to begin to test applications, I wanted to know if there is a list of all the repositories for the new official OS2008 (already included in the device) and unofficial. bye ADC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: List of Repository for OS2008
Hi Antonio, Have a look to http://www.gronmayer.com/it/index.php?lang=ensystem=maemo4 cheers Pit On Jan 11, 2008 5:42 PM, Antonio Di Cello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Yesterday I arrived the n810 I immediately updated kernel, and I wanted to begin to test applications, I wanted to know if there is a list of all the repositories for the new official OS2008 (already included in the device) and unofficial. bye ADC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Piotr - ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: List of Repository for OS2008
I know it's easier for the developer. But it's not easier for the user. Honestly, 1 developer n users; and I say that sitting in both camps. There are other good reasons to have a central repository but I don't really buy the ease of use argument for the user. The end user still has to enable the extras repository. It would be just as easy for a user to install a meta package, maybe call it maemo-universe, which adds every single repository in the universe to the sources list. For example, if it added all the repositories listed at http://www.gronmayer.com/it/, the end-user doesn't need to know the difference that n repositories were added versus one. The meta package could automatically update as new repositories are added/removed. Of course there are issues about trusting repositories, quality, etc. but that isn't an issue really solved with the extras repository unless some Nokia person is actually checking packages submitted to extras (which I doubt). I would trust a maemo-universe package with a repository list created by the community just as much as a random package in extras. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: List of Repository for OS2008
I intend to get rid of my repository and get everything I need available from Extras. I agree with and applaud this method. -- My Universe is my eyes and my ears. Anything else is hearsay. --The ruler of the Universe http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: apps install problem
sebastian wrote: Maybe I should use the flasher to install OS2008. Then I could use xterm. I'll assume that WiFi would no longer be mandatory then. If you're able to use xterm, then you'll find a real Debian system with usual features. But I don't understand your remark about WiFi. Every time you change your /etc/apt/sources.list, you should run 'apt-get update' with an active internet connection. It's the same. Silly me. I just assumed that anything you can do in Linuxland without xterm can be done better with xterm. Thanks for correcting my erroneous thinking. In an earlier post to this list, you said that one could manually download the deb packages directly from the web repositories to your PC and then transfer them to your tablet via USB. Then install them directly with Application Manager. Red Pill Mode isn't needed to do it this way, right? I'm sorry that I mentioned it earlier--it's a bit of a red herring, I guess. I like the way that it lists dependencies. I've had some difficulties finding the proper deb packages at the web repositories. Is an active internet connection required after the deb packages are downloaded to the n800? Tallyho, Thomas Armagost [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sillyblog.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Package categories are being misused
Andrew already brought up the too-many-repositories problem, maybe I should revitalize the other repository discussion: The application-categories-are-useless one. We still do not have a category list that would be just right for internet tablets, but that's a difficult problem and I'm not tackling it right now. I'm aiming for the low-hanging fruit, namely packages that A) have a category to themselves or B) shouldn't be visible in Application Manager Fixing these should be quite easy and would enhance the usability of Application Manager significantly by halving the number of categories. If you are a maintainer of one of these packages, please try to fix the problems. If you think I'm wrong, please explain. Thanks! - Jussi A) These packages have their own private category (and they shouldn't). Using the defaults + Maemo Extras + Modest repositories boingomobile: Boingo canola2:Canola (how about Multimedia) maemoscrobbler: misc (how about Multimedia) modest: extras (how about Communication) mnotify:connectivity (how about Communication) gnokii: comm (how about Communication or Commandline) load-applet:utilities(how about Accessories or Utilities) free42: scientific (how about Accessories,Utilities,Tools) rapier: religion B) These packages look like they should be dependencies and not visible python* (most packages at least) libgnokii3 libuiw libmpd0 videocenter-ci-plugins-base videocenter-plugins vc-epg-widget ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: apps install problem
2008/1/12, Thomas Armagost [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In an earlier post to this list, you said that one could manually download the deb packages directly from the web repositories to your PC and then transfer them to your tablet via USB. Then install them directly with Application Manager. I'm sorry. I was unclear. I'm talking about OS2007 without xterm here. To download xterm you'll need to use internet connection. This is the right repository (you may add it to your repository list if you don't have it yet): http://repository.maemo.org/ bora free non-free Is an active internet connection required after the deb packages are downloaded to the n800? That's the question I was trying to ask. In case you download a deb package (say, for example, free42_1.4.27-hildon1_armel.deb), then you may open it with the Application Manager, and you won't need internet connection to successfully install the package. Of course, once you get an xterm, you can also say: # dpkg -i free42_1.4.27-hildon1_armel.deb And this will install the package, too. Tallyho, Thomas Armagost [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sillyblog.net Salut, Sebas. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: ncurses-bin package (was: Fun crashes on OS2008)
On Monday 07 January 2008 01:08:11 Eero Tamminen wrote: Hi, ext James Sparenberg wrote: On Wednesday 02 January 2008 03:13:41 you wrote: ext James Sparenberg wrote: On Saturday 29 December 2007 03:29:05 pm Marius Gedminas wrote: Two shell crashes on OS2008. One is reproducible but mostly harmless: $ type /bin/sh segfaults and your session ends. The other is not reproducible: while hitting the Up key to go back in history I suddenly got this: ~ $ pidof *** glibc detected *** -sh: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0004ed40 *** /bin/sh aborts and your session ends. Scary. Marius Gedminas Marius. I can't get the first one to crash mine. it instead lists out the busybox info. As for the second ... I get random crashes form the current xterm (less advanced) version that I can't repeat. More often than not with more than one window open. But the one you can get to work regularly doesn't seem to happen. Also just curious but does anyone know why the clear command wasn't compiled into busybox? Was up until 2008. Perhaps an oversite? Why you need it? it is used in scripts to clear the term window when switching for example in and out of VI. clear command comes from ncurses-bin package on Debian along with e.g. terminfo database manipulation programs. ncurses-bin is a Debian essential and clear is also in posix standard so it would probably be good if it would be in the device by default. Up until now clear was a compiled applet in busybox Not supplied by ncurses-bin Unfortunately ... ncurses-bin is installed ... and it doesn't have the command (in the maemo version) as in the past it would have conflicted with the busy box version of clear. Busybox package doesn't provide ncurses-bin and from the binaries included into that package Busybox binary could be configured to provided only clear and reset. I'm not sure how nice it would be to have that limited ncurses-bin package in the device... The terminfo database tools shouldn't be necessary there. :-) Your right one package isn't expected to supply the another. But here again. check OS2007 OS2006 and OS2005 busybox in all of them supplied clear on maemo. If only clear and reset from the ncurses-bin package would be needed, busybox could include both and declared that it provides ncurses-bin. Actually prior to os2008 that is what it did. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Package categories are being misused
On Jan 11, 2008 9:12 PM, Jussi Kukkonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A) These packages have their own private category (and they shouldn't). canola2:Canola (how about Multimedia) Sorry, this was a last minute mistake :-/ B) These packages look like they should be dependencies and not visible python* (most packages at least) libgnokii3 libuiw libmpd0 videocenter-ci-plugins-base videocenter-plugins vc-epg-widget Not to mention packages like http servers, php, php-services... (are those really used with the device? Really, people complained a lot about things like canola-conf/web-ui, would someone use such servers on maemo or are they just there because it's easy to port) One thing that is still unclear to me is how we could improve things like: - language packs for individual programs - program plugins Canola2 still provides no extra languages or plugins, but our arch is meant for that, so we should get them soon, but we have this already with gaim/pigidin and some others. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri -- Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 17249123 Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (81) 9927 0010 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Package categories are being misused
IMHO, the application manager/package categories should match the Project Cloud categories, at a minimum... Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Jan 11, 2008 9:12 PM, Jussi Kukkonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A) These packages have their own private category (and they shouldn't). canola2:Canola (how about Multimedia) Sorry, this was a last minute mistake :-/ B) These packages look like they should be dependencies and not visible python* (most packages at least) libgnokii3 libuiw libmpd0 videocenter-ci-plugins-base videocenter-plugins vc-epg-widget Not to mention packages like http servers, php, php-services... (are those really used with the device? Really, people complained a lot about things like canola-conf/web-ui, would someone use such servers on maemo or are they just there because it's easy to port) One thing that is still unclear to me is how we could improve things like: - language packs for individual programs - program plugins Canola2 still provides no extra languages or plugins, but our arch is meant for that, so we should get them soon, but we have this already with gaim/pigidin and some others. -- Always, Dr Fred C [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
