Re: Postal address in Contacts?

2008-06-21 Thread Patrick Ohly
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 14:55 -0600, Mark wrote:
 You are confusing convenience with flexibility. Syncing can be a
 whole lot more *convenient*, once you have it properly set up (which
 can be a real bear), but it is in no way as flexible or powerful as
 import/export.

True. However, the flexibility that you value so much comes at the
expense of a lot more manual work each time you do an import/export. CSV
has the same problem: it's kind of okay when you manually define your
fields *and* teach your apps what you mean with these fields, but it is
unsuitable for automated data exchange without this upfront
configuration.

You remarked that SyncEvolution is too hard to use because there is no
GUI and one has to edit configuration files. Someone has written a GUI
(Genesis; implemented in Python, so it might run on Maemo, although I
haven't tried that) and in 0.8 one can also change the config from the
command line. CSV on the other hand requires that you define your own
file format - is that really easier for non-technical people? I'd argue
that syncing is becoming easier to set up than import/export.

-- 
Bye, Patrick Ohly
--  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.estamos.de/

___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users


Reading Ebooks.

2008-06-21 Thread Peter
Hi,

I was hoping that some else out their may be able to share their experiences 
with readers for the N810.
Previously I have been a big ebook reader using my PalmTX and mostly only use 
it for that purpose now.

I have a really big collection of books in many formats but for the most park 
they are in MS Word format.. (Yeh I know)
Would anyone be able to share their comments of how and what they use.?? Why 
you do or don't like them.

THanks.

Peter___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users


Re: Reading Ebooks.

2008-06-21 Thread Kahlil Johnson
well I got an N800 and use evince to read most of the ebooks, there is
a good blog post when the N800 came out and how to use Evince
(avialable for N800 and N810) and read your ebooks on PDF

You can use OpenOffice.org to cnvert the doc into pdf and then send
them to your N810 and enjoy them there.

There are good and band things wiht the N810/N800 specially because
the display is a regular LCD, nothing compared to the monocrome ebook
readers that have a high definition contrast like the kindle or
devices like that but on the opposite you are able to get features
such as zoom and well 100 applications more.

On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 6:08 AM, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I was hoping that some else out their may be able to share their experiences
 with readers for the N810.
 Previously I have been a big ebook reader using my PalmTX and mostly only
 use it for that purpose now.

 I have a really big collection of books in many formats but for the most
 park they are in MS Word format.. (Yeh I know)
 Would anyone be able to share their comments of how and what they use.?? Why
 you do or don't like them.

 THanks.

 Peter
 ___
 maemo-users mailing list
 maemo-users@maemo.org
 https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users





-- 
Kahlil Johnson
Ya tengo GMAIL!!
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users


Re: Reading Ebooks.

2008-06-21 Thread Kahlil Johnson
Correction, it wasn't evince but FBreader, the blog post is the following:
http://www.teleread.org/blog/2007/08/04/the-nokia-n800-as-an-e-book-reader-a-review-and-some-fbreader-tips/

On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 6:08 AM, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I was hoping that some else out their may be able to share their experiences
 with readers for the N810.
 Previously I have been a big ebook reader using my PalmTX and mostly only
 use it for that purpose now.

 I have a really big collection of books in many formats but for the most
 park they are in MS Word format.. (Yeh I know)
 Would anyone be able to share their comments of how and what they use.?? Why
 you do or don't like them.

 THanks.

 Peter
 ___
 maemo-users mailing list
 maemo-users@maemo.org
 https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users





-- 
Kahlil Johnson
Ya tengo GMAIL!!
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users


Re: Reading Ebooks.

2008-06-21 Thread Kevin T. Neely
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 08:38:01PM +0930, Peter wrote:
 
 I was hoping that some else out their may be able to share their experiences 
 with readers for the N810.


Sadly, mobipocket has not been ported to maemo.  You can, however, install 
Garnet VM and then install your Palm reader on that.  It supports full-screen 
now but I have not been able to try it since the upgrade killed my installation 
somehow.

I mostly use FBreader, coupled with Gutenbrowse to get books from the Gutenberg 
project.  I am looking for a good way to port pdfs to a format FBreader 
understands (prc/pdb perhaps?) but have not come across one yet.  I was happy 
to see that someone had ported Zittrain's new _Future of the Internet_ book to 
that format and it works perfectly in FBreader.

http://www.consumingexperience.com/2008/06/free-ebook-zittrain-future-of-internet.html

hope that helps,
K


-- 
In Vino Veritas
http://astroturfgarden.com



signature.asc
Description: Digital signature
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users


Re: Browser location field showing when I click on a text input field

2008-06-21 Thread Tuukka Tolvanen
Tony Green wrote:
 For some strange reason, my N800's on-screen keyboard has started acting
 strangely.

 When I click on a text input field in the browser, the keyboard pops up, as it
 should but now the location field (where you can type a URL to go somewhere)
 and its associated buttons is appearing at the top of the keyboard as if I'd
 clicked on the location field, whereas it used to just be replaced by the
 keyboard. This means I've got even less usable screen area :-(

 Obviously I've managed to change a setting somewhere, but I can't work it out.

 Has anybody come across this problem? More to the point, has anybody found a
 solution for it? ;-)

You might want to find / file a bug on https://bugs.maemo.org/ -- but 
first: what version are you using (Control Panel  General  About 
product), does this happen on all sites or a particular site (example 
url and specific field required either way), fullscreen or normal view 
or both, settings in browser's menu - view - toolbar, does closing 
browser and rebooting (no charger) happen to resolve the problem? Also 
the contents of /home/user/.browser may be of interest.

 http://www.gnupg.org/(en)/documentation/faqs.html for more information.

this is 404.

't.
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users


Re: Reading Ebooks.

2008-06-21 Thread Klaus Rotter
Kevin T. Neely schrieb:
 Sadly, mobipocket has not been ported to maemo.  You can, however, install 
 Garnet VM and then install your Palm reader on that.  It supports full-screen 
 now but I have not been able to try it since the upgrade killed my 
 installation somehow.

It works better now. I was able to sync with palm desktop via network 
and have now a complete working system on my N810 (with the standard 
programs). I manage my contacs still with Palm. The new fullscreen 
potrait mode is a must. I don't need my Palm Tungsten C any more. Even 
some of the music programs (microbe) for palm work, but those crash 
sometimes. But they didn't run at all with the first beta.

-- 
  Klaus Rotter * klaus at rotters dot de * www.rotters.de
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users


Anonymous wiki edits: disable NOW (please)

2008-06-21 Thread Andrew Flegg
Hi,

I suspect the right place for this is maemo2midgard-discuss, but until
that becomes maemo-community, here'll do: can we turn off anonymous
editing of the wiki - or at least anonymous editing over HTTP. I've
reverted the fourth or fifth spamming of Talk:Task:Community_Council
and it's getting annoying.

I don't see *any* harm in requiring an account to edit this wiki, the
aims are much more focused than Wikipedia, and people should be
getting karma anyway.

Thanks in advance,

Andrew

-- 
Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users


Re: Anonymous wiki edits: disable NOW (please)

2008-06-21 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jun 21, 2008, at 8:29 AM, Andrew Flegg wrote:

 I don't see *any* harm in requiring an account to edit this wiki, the
 aims are much more focused than Wikipedia, and people should be
 getting karma anyway.

 Done, but it's only a 24 hour block. Will have to be discussed further.

Ta. I've created a page on which we can define the policy, and discuss
it on the talk page:

http://wiki.maemo.org/Meta:Anonymous_editing

Cheers,

Andrew

-- 
Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users


Re: Reading Ebooks.

2008-06-21 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 08:38:01PM +0930, Peter wrote:
 I was hoping that some else out their may be able to share their
 experiences with readers for the N810.

It's the best e-book reader I ever used (disclaimer: I never used any
e-ink/e-paper readers):

  * smooth fonts (225 pixels per inch)
  * fits into a pocket (I read in the elevator)
  * integrated stand

 Previously I have been a big ebook reader using my PalmTX and mostly
 only use it for that purpose now.

Same here, only I used Palm m500 and a Palm Tungsten T for that purpose.
WeaselReader rocked.

 I have a really big collection of books in many formats but for the
 most park they are in MS Word format.. (Yeh I know) Would anyone be
 able to share their comments of how and what they use.??

Evince for PDFs.  The bundled Nokia PDF Reader is okay, but it won't
remember which page I was reading when I closed it (or when the battery
ran out, or when the tablet crashed).

FBReader for everything else.

I use OpenOffice.org to convert RTF/DOC e-books to HTML.  Other
alternatives (AbiWord, rtf2html) produce inferior results.  (FBReader
supports RTF natively, but many RTF books I've seen have ragged right
edges in FBReader, while converting them to HTML produces a nice
justified page.)

Marius Gedminas
-- 
Every nonzero finite dimensional inner product space has an orthonormal basis.

It makes sense, when you don't think about it.


signature.asc
Description: Digital signature
___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users


Re: Postal address in Contacts?

2008-06-21 Thread Mark Haury




Patrick Ohly wrote:

  On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 14:55 -0600, Mark wrote:
  
  
You are confusing "convenience" with "flexibility". Syncing can be a
whole lot more *convenient*, once you have it properly set up (which
can be a real bear), but it is in no way as flexible or powerful as
import/export.

  
  
True. However, the flexibility that you value so much comes at the
expense of a lot more manual work each time you do an import/export. CSV
has the same problem: it's kind of okay when you manually define your
fields *and* teach your apps what you mean with these fields, but it is
unsuitable for automated data exchange without this upfront
configuration.

You remarked that SyncEvolution is too hard to use because there is no
GUI and one has to edit configuration files. Someone has written a GUI
("Genesis"; implemented in Python, so it might run on Maemo, although I
haven't tried that) and in 0.8 one can also change the config from the
command line. CSV on the other hand requires that you define your own
file format - is that really easier for non-technical people? I'd argue
that syncing is becoming easier to set up than import/export.
  


You still have not responded to the the main problem, which is that
sync is not and never will be as flexible as import and export, and in
some cases is absolutely, positively impossible. Import and export
*always* works to some extent, as long as you have the patience to keep
looking for a solution. Sometimes it requires jumping through some
hoops, but jumping through hoops (and adequate - as opposed to complete
- data transfer) beats absolute impossibility every time.

Mark


___
maemo-users mailing list
maemo-users@maemo.org
https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users