Re: Maemo-Mapper and Map Storage
I had a problem a few months back about Open Street Map crashing and not starting up. Turned out to be that my internal memory was full. Placed all the Maps on my external storage card, works fine now. Denis -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Jamie Bennett ja...@linuxuk.org wrote: On 9 Jun 2009, at 18:45, Mark wrote: On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:14 AM, R. A. Bilonickr...@consolidated.net wrote: Would it be better to clone the OS on the flash card to the external memory card and boot from there, or would it be better to store all the maps on the external memory card? Or the internal memory? I downloaded maps for London and now I've run out of space on the N810 (latest version of Diablo, Dec. 2009). Rick B. My advice would be to store the maps on the external memory card. If you run out of room there, you can always get a bigger card and just copy everything straight over and keep on going. Definitely. External memory cards are getting cheaper by the day so carrying a lot of maps on an external card is very viable now-a-days. Mark Regards, Jamie. -- http://www.linuxuk.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Unix vs Windows security (was Re: Nokia device usage)
While I hate OS wars; it's like taking to your cat. This was a well thought out response and worth reading. Thanks, Denis -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Farrell J. McGovern farrell.mcgov...@gmail.com wrote: ScottW wrote: The Mac and *nix world needs to stop gloating about their clean record so far and keep an eye out for what is to come. Dues to the learning curve of the OS, the users were more enlightened than the common computer user, but now these are more wide spread and the common user will be using them. The conspiracy theory people say that Antivirus companies are the ones making most of the viruses so that they have a product to sell, well there is a market out there just waiting to be tapped. Norton AV for Mac is on the shelves even though there is only really 1 documented virus, and people buy it. The good ole saying: The devil's greatest accomplishment was to convince everyone he does not exist... well the Linux virus does not exist. You are, of course, making the classic mistake of not understanding security on computer operating systems. Popularity has little to do with how vulnerable a system is. Fact: Windows XP is about 12 years old, Vista/Windows 7 maybe 5. Unix is 40+ years old. Face: Unix was designed for a mult-user, multi-processing environment, Windows was designed for a single user, single application at a time environment, it has had mult-user and multi-processing added on to it. Thus, most everything that can affect Windows today was probably seen and corrected on the architectural level decades ago in Unix. Even the simplest thing of making the user work in a non-privileged workspace is one of the basic things that Unix has done for decades, while it is a relatively new idea in Windows. Thus, if you compromise the workspace, you don't compromise the system. Next, you have the fact that to make things really fast in Windows, you have graphics primitives in the kernel. This means that to compromise the entire system, all you need to do is compromise a graphics routine...and as almost everything is graphical in Windows...compromise the Browser, you can own the system...compromise the mail reader, you can own the system...compromise an editor you can own the system...compromise an ERROR MESSAGE, and you can own the system. With Unix, very few things can access the kernel. If you compromise the Browser, you may compromise the user's workspace, but the system remains compromised. Generally, in Windows it's a single set to compromise the entire system...on Unix, it takes usually two more more steps, first you must compromise the userspace, then you must compromise the kernel. Ultimately, it takes a lot more work to compromise a Unix system than a Windows system. And that makes Unix and systems derived from Unix inherently more secure than Windows. ttyl Farrell McGovern -- Computers make very fast, very accurate mistaeks. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia device usage
Nice GUI, just wanted to point out the Nokia converter now runs under Mac O/SX. I prefer the cmd line tools. Thanks, Denis -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Gary g...@eyetraxx.net wrote: Ognen Duzlevski wrote: Have not tried this app yet. I guess this is my bad. Cool, thanks! Don't forget to check out this cool tool, too: http://mediautils.garage.maemo.org/tablet-encode.html ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Multilist to English
The Menu files have been hacked so the selections are in English now, the underlying code is still in German. I have not uploaded them, but if you want to do you own, you can make the changes yourself. If your comfortable with the command line, I could email the files to you. Denis -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Peter Bart pe...@petertheplumber.netwrote: On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 22:05 -0700, Denis Dimick wrote: I just posted over on the Garage page for Multilist the files needed to be edited to convert the Menus from German to English Here's a quick copy: All the files are located in : /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/multilistclasses libmultilist.py libsqldialog.py libsync.py I used Babel Fish to do the conversion, as soon as I figure out how to make a patch I'll post one. Are you saying the translation is done? If not that would be something I can help with. Best Regards, -- Peter Bart pe...@petertheplumber.net Peter The Plumber ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Maemo-Mapper script?
Mike's correct, sorry for not being clearer. Denis -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Mike Sherman mike.sher...@earthlink.netwrote: COURTAUD Didier didier.court...@cea.fr wrote: Denis Dimick wrote: I went over to www.openstreetmaps.org, selected Export, manually highlighted the area I wanted, and then used the coordinates to do the download into Mapper. I did that too ! But now how do you tell Maemo Mapper to read this file ? and in what format ? XML ou .bin ? I never succeedeed to do that ! I think Dennis meant just take the coordinates of the are from the OSM page and enter them in the Maemo Mapper download area. Didier -Mike Mike Shermanmike.sher...@earthlink.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 in an Otterbox 2000
Man I love RAM mounts, I've got one for my Garmin and I'm real happy with it. With you water resistant case, I may have to convert to my n810 now. Know of any Topo Maps you can load for riding off the highway? Thanks, Denis -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Christoph Eckert c...@christeck.de wrote: Hi, Still missing: The bike mount. Will hopefully be posted next week :) . RAM mount arrived: http://www.christeck.de/wp/?p=277 HTH, ce ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Maemo-Mapper script?
Bug #730 is already open with this, I did update what was happening to my system. Thanks for reminding me to report it as a bug. Denis -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:56 PM, Marius Gedminas mar...@pov.lt wrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 01:15:26PM -0700, Denis Dimick wrote: Mike, and anyone else trying to deal with this issue: Thanks for the help. I did find out that for some reason Maemo-Mapper was crashing while trying to download the area maps, turned out that I had once again filled my internal storage space. I moved the DB file over to my SD card and everything works like a charm. That's not a good way to tell the user that his disk is full. I would suggest reporting it as a bug. Marius Gedminas -- As an aside, UPnP's implementation (which features SOAP, HTTP over multicast/broadcast UDP, and extremely odd XML) is a must-read for fans of unnatural and baroque network protocols. -- Anthony Baxter -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJml+TkVdEXeem148RAslMAJ9DuOskfFX/3UuxfS2ZwLnorS8DyQCeOTs3 x+CAwjgcXsg46o5SC/6iYOU= =bzNJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Problem using ssh on N800
Well I'm stumped, the only suggestion I have left is log int the Nokia from an X-Windows locally and run: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade and see if that helps. If not, you may have to re-flash and see if that helps. If re-flashing helps, then load your apps back one or two at a time and see which one breaks SSH. I hate to tell you to re-flash, but some apps I've found break the Nokia so bad it's the only real way to recover. Denis -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Martin Collins mae...@mkcollins.orgwrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Denis Dimick dgdim...@gmail.com wrote: Two things, and I'm betting I could be wrong: 1. Your listening on port 22 as well as ? Yes I listen on both, I added for connections from the internet. 2. Try adding this to /etc/sshd_config ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes UsePAM yes Already had UsePAM yes, set the other explicitly but no change. Have you been able to login to the server from any other host, or are you only trying with your Nokia? I can log in from another desktop and my 770 (which is running ssh 3.8p1). Martin ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: damaged power connecter
The Power plug is the same one Nokia uses for a number of their cell phones (5300 for example), however, I to have had a number of issues with the power plug, and have bought a number of after-market plugs and still am unhappy. Anyone come up with a good after market source for AC adapters? Denis -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Eero Tamminen eero.tammi...@nokia.com wrote: Hi, ext Mike Sherman wrote: The other day I tried to push my N810 out of the car mount forgetting that I had plugged the charger in. After that stress on the power jack the N810 won' t charge unless you apply a downward force on the power cable. The jack in the N810 seems to be damaged. First I'd suspect the charger itself, it's power cable is quite thin and can break. Have you tried another charger? - Eero Any suggestions? Has anyone gone inside one of these? I've repaired and replaced parts in Palms, but the N seems several levels beyond. This is a timely subject for me as well. The other day I knocked my N800 off my desk while it was plugged into a USB charging cable. It hit the end of the cable before it hit the floor (which helped prevent other damage), but it bent the plug on the cable. I straightened the plug and it worked for a few days, but now the tablet will not work with anything but the original AC adapter (I have other non-Nokia-made power cables as well) and I'm afraid that it's only a matter of time until it stops working with that. One of the other adapters that doesn't work (adapts the the older larger barrel size to the new tiny one) is actually a genuine Nokia part. What possessed Nokia to use that teensy new plug size? (Besides the obvious - but temporary - increase in revenue from selling their own incredibly overpriced accessories...) The space savings inside the device is negligible, especially when compared to the significant reduction in mechanical strength and durability. Power input jacks are *always* subject to major stress as well as extreme wear, especially in devices that are this portable and used this much. Somebody should design a new power connector system that would limit any wear and damage to the cord and not allow any to the device's inner workings. (And all manufacturers should be required to use standard ones.) Apple's magnetic connector is a good example, but it's too large for pocketable devices and strong magnetic fields are *never* a good idea around electronic devices (or debit/credit or other cards with magnetic stripes). Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Problem using ssh on N800
What do the server logs tell you? /var/log/auth It looks like you are getting into the remote server, but then it hangs on something. Denis -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Martin Collins mae...@mkcollins.orgwrote: I've purged and reinstalled openssh but no change. I had the same problem with dropbear too. Here's the debug from the server, from the point I try to connect: Connection from 192.168.0.7 port 56747 debug1: Client protocol version 2.0; client software version OpenSSH_4.7p1 Debian-12.maemo2 debug1: match: OpenSSH_4.7p1 Debian-12.maemo2 pat OpenSSH* debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-3 debug1: list_hostkey_types: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug1: kex: client-server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: kex: server-client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST received debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug1: KEX done debug1: userauth-request for user martin service ssh-connection method none debug1: attempt 0 failures 0 debug1: PAM: initializing for martin debug1: PAM: setting PAM_RHOST to 192.168.0.7 debug1: PAM: setting PAM_TTY to ssh Failed none for martin from 192.168.0.7 port 56747 ssh2 debug1: userauth-request for user martin service ssh-connection method keyboard-interactive debug1: attempt 1 failures 0 debug1: keyboard-interactive devs debug1: auth2_challenge: user=martin devs= debug1: kbdint_alloc: devices 'pam' debug1: auth2_challenge_start: trying authentication method 'pam' Postponed keyboard-interactive for martin from 192.168.0.7 port 56747 ssh2 debug1: do_pam_account: called debug1: PAM: num PAM env strings 0 Postponed keyboard-interactive/pam for martin from 192.168.0.7 port 56747 ssh2 debug1: do_pam_account: called Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for martin from 192.168.0.7 port 56747 ssh2 debug1: PAM: establishing credentials debug1: Entering interactive session for SSH2. debug1: server_init_dispatch_20 debug1: server_input_channel_open: ctype session rchan 0 win 1048576 max 16384 debug1: input_session_request debug1: channel 0: new [server-session] debug1: session_new: session 0 debug1: session_open: channel 0 debug1: session_open: session 0: link with channel 0 debug1: server_input_channel_open: confirm session long wait here Read error from remote host 192.168.0.7: Connection timed out debug1: do_cleanup debug1: PAM: cleanup debug1: PAM: deleting credentials debug1: PAM: closing session No clues for me there. It's connecting and authenticating but then it's like both machines are waiting for something from the other. I can connect to all machines from all machines (including my 770) except the N800 so I don't think signal strength can be the problem. I'm using IP addresses so DNS is not involved. Can anyone point me to a newer version of ssh for maemo? Maybe using the same version at both ends will help. Martin ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Maemo-Mapper script?
I've looked around and see some mention of a script/application that will allow you to pre-download maps into maemo-mapper from tjhe command line. Anyone have any idea where to find more information about this? I've tried Map Loader (GUI) and it doesn't seem to work. Thanks, Denis -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: deactivete auto-caps
Thanks Michael, That setting was bugging me also Denis -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Michael Graham ma...@the-wire.com wrote: Yeah, this feature is totally annoying! The way to disable it is to go into: Control Panel-Text Input Settings Then on the Languages tab find your language and click on settings. Then uncheck Auto-capitalization. Michael On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:27:47 +0100 Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni li...@prometoys.net wrote: Hi, like the good old MS Word 9x Maemo support the widely loved feature to write the first character after a point or paragraph in upper case (A instead of a). How can I switch this off? This is with a hardware keyboard a little bit, but with a bluetooth keyboard totally annoying. Thanks, Keywan -- Michael Graham ma...@the-wire.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Maemo Installation Problem in Fedora 10
I figured out a way around this: Just run dpkg --configure PACKAGENAME You may have to run this a number of times, once for each package, but it will work. HtH, Denis -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Andre Klapper aklap...@openismus.comwrote: Am Samstag, den 10.01.2009, 23:53 -0800 schrieb Chandra: Errors were encountered while processing: ifupdown netbase dnsmasq ppp maemo-connectivity-runtime maemo-connectivity-dev maemo-core-runtime maemo-core-dev maemo-sdk-runtime maemo-sdk-dev E: Sub-process /scratchbox/devkits/debian-etch/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) E: Unable to install maemo-sdk-dev on DIABLO_X86 target. E: Please check the sources.list for errors. E: Scratchbox login returned error 100. Same here. Filed https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3986 . andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N*x0 app similar to Splashshopper?
I use MultiList all the time, it's nice that you can enter lists for different stores, helps me remember things I need at the Hardware store, now if I just remember to take my wallet. ;) Denis On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Peter Bart pe...@petertheplumber.netwrote: On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 10:51 -0500, John Holmblad wrote: All, I was invited to try a mobile app called Splashshopper on my Windows Mobile handset. The app looks fairly straightforward (basically a structured list manager) and I thought there might a similar app that runs on the N8x0. If anyone knows of such a similar app I would appreciate hearing about it. Here, fyi, is the url to the www page for the Splashshopper appL http://www.splashdata.com/splashshopper/ Clearly this app must be quiet useful in order to command a retail price of $29.95 US. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/maemopadplus/ http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/quicknote/ http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/multilist/ http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/glom/ http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/expense-assistant/ http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/pyrecipe And of course Gnumeric for my use. Of course none of these do what splashshopper appears to do except for possibly multilist? Best Regards, -- Peter The Plumber sm State Licensed Master Plumber State Certified Backflow Device Tester Factory Trained Boiler Install/Service NIOSH/OSHA/MIOSHA Trained Confined Space Entry http://petertheplumber.net 24h Service 313.215.5175 Don't sleep with a drip; if water runs through it; call a experienced,licensed plumber! ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Maybe the wrong list:
Can anyone tell me the SVN command to check out / download all the files in the Maemo Garage? I'm looking to get these files: https://garage.maemo.org/svn/maemoexamples/tags/maemo_4.1/maemo-examples/ Thanks, Denis ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N*x0 app similar to Splashshopper?
Then I'd forget my N810. :) If and when they do launch a NFC credit card application, I'm going to be one of the first to try it, since I normally have my n810 with me most of the time. Thanks, Denis On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:57 PM, kenneth marken kemar...@broadpark.nowrote: Denis Dimick wrote: I use MultiList all the time, it's nice that you can enter lists for different stores, helps me remember things I need at the Hardware store, now if I just remember to take my wallet. ;) Denis or just wait for nokia to launch a tablet with NFC credit card ability... On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Peter Bart pe...@petertheplumber.netmailto: pe...@petertheplumber.net wrote: On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 10:51 -0500, John Holmblad wrote: All, I was invited to try a mobile app called Splashshopper on my Windows Mobile handset. The app looks fairly straightforward (basically a structured list manager) and I thought there might a similar app that runs on the N8x0. If anyone knows of such a similar app I would appreciate hearing about it. Here, fyi, is the url to the www page for the Splashshopper appL http://www.splashdata.com/splashshopper/ Clearly this app must be quiet useful in order to command a retail price of $29.95 US. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/maemopadplus/ http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/quicknote/ http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/multilist/ http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/glom/ http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/expense-assistant/ http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/pyrecipe And of course Gnumeric for my use. Of course none of these do what splashshopper appears to do except for possibly multilist? Best Regards, -- Peter The Plumber sm State Licensed Master Plumber State Certified Backflow Device Tester Factory Trained Boiler Install/Service NIOSH/OSHA/MIOSHA Trained Confined Space Entry http://petertheplumber.net 24h Service 313.215.5175 Don't sleep with a drip; if water runs through it; call a experienced,licensed plumber! ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org mailto:maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Maybe the wrong list:
Thanks, Works great! Denis On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Qiang Chai chaiwiz...@gmail.com wrote: svn co https://garage.maemo.org/svn/maemoexamples/tags/maemo_4.1/maemo-examples/ Hope this will work :)! 2009/1/4 Denis Dimick dgdim...@gmail.com Can anyone tell me the SVN command to check out / download all the files in the Maemo Garage? I'm looking to get these files: https://garage.maemo.org/svn/maemoexamples/tags/maemo_4.1/maemo-examples/ Thanks, Denis ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Best Regards Chai Qiang -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Alarm setting
Jerry and Hugo, I did try to use the --reinstall option, it forced the reinstall, however, it didn't bring back the application. I suspect I may have malf'ed it up during one of the clock installs, I've tried just about all of them. I tried a backup/restore, from a few weeks ago, still didn't work. I finally ended up having to re-flash the O/S to get it working again. I know if I just understood the n810 a little better, I may not have had to re-flash it, but that's not the case currently. Thanks again for yours and everyone else on the list that replyed to me, Denis On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Jerry Van Baren gvb.ma...@gmail.comwrote: Denis Dimick wrote: Hugo, It looks like I did something to screw up the settings, clock is not an option. I tried to re-install osso-clock, and osso-clock-data, however, apt-get is reporting it's already installed. I tried to do a restore from an older backup and Clock did not reappear on the Applets screen. I had in the past installed Cairo Clock, however, I don't think this would have deleted the default clock. Thanks for any ideas, Denis Hi Denis, I'm assuming you have ssh access to your n8xx... ssh in and use the --reinstall option: apt-get install --reinstall osso-clock osso-clock-data If you need to use a bigger hammer, remove and re-install it: apt-get remove --purge osso-clock osso-clock-data (the purge to remove all associated data) to remove it and then re-install it. HTH, gvb -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Alarm setting
I was trying to set an alarm last night and couldn't for the life of me remember how. I thought there was a clock application, but I'm unable to find it. Anyone have an idea? Thanks, Denis ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Alarm setting
Hugo, It looks like I did something to screw up the settings, clock is not an option. I tried to re-install osso-clock, and osso-clock-data, however, apt-get is reporting it's already installed. I tried to do a restore from an older backup and Clock did not reappear on the Applets screen. I had in the past installed Cairo Clock, however, I don't think this would have deleted the default clock. Thanks for any ideas, Denis On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Hugo Gayosso hgayo...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Denis Dimick dgdim...@gmail.com wrote: I was trying to set an alarm last night and couldn't for the life of me remember how. I thought there was a clock application, but I'm unable to find it. Anyone have an idea? If using OS2008 try the following: Almost on the top left corner you will see a menu icon and the legend Home Click it. Click on Select applets Click on Clock Click Ok A clock should show up on the desktop. Click it. On the World Map, on the lower left corner, you should see an alarm clock with a red bar crossing it, click it. click on Set alarm. Greetings, -- Hugo -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Itouch v N8x0
I think it's Hurry up and wait for most of us; we wait to see what improvements will occur. I'm interested in seeing what changes the Android will see in the next 6 months. Thanks, Denis On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Matt Emson mem...@interalpha.co.uk wrote: On 22 Dec 2008, at 20:41, Denis Dimick wrote: I've had both a n810 and an iPhone (Jailbroken) and ended up selling the iPhone; I was tired of not being able to manage my Music the way I wanted to - iTunes sucks. I've never really had a problem with iTunes (5th gen iPod owner), but I've never had a *good* experience with my N800 and media. My 5th gen ipod runs rings around the N800, and that is the problem I have with the N8x0 series with regards to media. There's not one player that works properly and has a good interface. Canola2 is close, but it constantly plays a few seconds from a random MP3 between tracks when on shuffle. No good. I've never owned a music player other than an iPod, so maybe things would be different in that case. Android, having played with it over the last few days (Nitdroid) is slicker than Maemo. I hope the port matures and I can use it full time. It's a lot more pleasurable to use than Maemo. However, the N800 hardware just plain struggles to to anything useful in my experience. Even Android is slightly pokey, and in similar ways to Maemo, so it's likely a hardware or driver level issue. M -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Repeat quetion : Diablo update to OS2008HE ? (Was: Software Choices for New Nokia 770?)
Hendrik, I stand corrected about the blobs. However, is my point still valid? Thanks, Denis On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 09:11:19AM -0600, Denis Dimick wrote: Ryan, First off I'd like to thank you and the other members of the Maemo community council for devoting time to Maemo, we all are busy in this day and time, and I'm grateful there are people willing to stand up and lead this community. Last night I was thinking about the issue of Nokia dropping support for various hardware platforms, I'm speaking of in the future also, and I started to think about the early days of Linux 15 years ago. There was not any company that was willing to stand up and embrace Linux, come out with ANY hardware support and most of the communities time was spend trying to reverse engineer drivers. Now today we have a number of vendors that support Linux and ship drivers, most users can seamlessly install Linux and we have Nokia that has embraced Linux, and given us these wonderful toys, tools, whatever you want to call them. So the worst case here; Nokia drops out of the Linux market, or reduces their support for older hardware platforms. Since the software is open source, except for the close-source binary-blob drivers that drive the proprietary chips. -- hendrik the hardware seems to be well documented, the community knows how to write applications, hack the core O/S or UI, we just end up going back in time a few years to the days where we had to patch source ourselves, and chose what applications we want to install; until someone re-writes the install process and we get back to a fully automated install. All we lose is a bit of time, we don't lose the hardware. Just my thoughts, Denis On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 29, 2008, at 4:51 AM, Quim Gil wrote: About the rest of the thread, how useful is it to discuss before Nokia publishes the maemo 5 API and announces a product shipping it? Enjoy your current devices! Fremantle is not even in alpha. The N810 WiMAX edition just started the sales few days ago (running the very same software inside). No matter what happens with Fremantle the N800/N810 users are going to benefit from this. Well, when Nokia is done with Diablo to the point that they wont even apply a simple patch like this[1], then I'd say future plans are pretty important. [1]https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3470 -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Repeat quetion : Diablo update to OS2008HE ? (Was: Software Choices for New Nokia 770?)
While I don't own a 700 or an 800, I have an n810, I'm watching what Nokia does with these older models, are they going to require users upgrade the hardware to get new apps, or are they going to support the older hardware? If Nokia does not continue to support older hardware, I'm not sure Nokia going to get any more of my money. $400 for a n810 is a lot to shell out when you can buy a small laptop, Acer, Asus, etc. and have a system with just a tad larger footprint. Just my .02, Denis On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:58 PM, gary liquid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred, From my perspective I'm not sure what would be blocking liqbase from running on the 770. I believe the only none standard things it uses are the XV library and the XSP raw mouse information. If you would like to run liqbase from the console and send me the output I will be happy to give it a run through and see whats going on. I will be happy to attempt to get it running on all Nokia maemo devices, and hopefully it would be a minor tweak :) Gary On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Fred Pacquier [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Ryan Abel a écrit : On Oct 27, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Urivan Saaib wrote: I've been playing with Diablo on my n770 for several months. It has been fairly stable. No, you've been playing with Chinook. Diablo is not available for the 770. Well, this is a question I've meant to ask Quim for a while now, so here is my opportunity. I've asked it here before without an answer, but some threads on ITT have brought it back to light recently. Despite the disparaging remarks by the Maemo team when OS2008HE came out (end-of-the-line, too much for the poor beast etc.), quite a few people (including me) are satisfied with it breathing a new life into their old 770. Maemo Mapper in particular, a rare example of commitment to maintaining a native maemo app on all NIT platforms, works just fine on it. The problem we are having now is that some recent apps, or their Diablo upgrades, fail to install or run, although they could be really useful on a home-bound 770 : to name a few, Canola, Maemo remote (which also uses EFL), or liqbase... So, before the Fremantle wave definitely buries the 770 platform (and maybe the N8x0 too), it would be really good to see a final update bringing the main Diablo improvements to OS2008HE, so that it can still run the latest relevant apps. Is there any chance this will happen ? TIA, fp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Repeat quetion : Diablo update to OS2008HE ? (Was: Software Choices for New Nokia 770?)
Gary, Luca's reply is more in line with my thinking. I do think one thing that Nokia needs to understand is when it's time to purchase a new device user irritation with a vendor plays a part in the decision. Will I climb further into bed with Nokia, buying a phone also, or look somewhere else for love? I do like my n810, it's replaced my iPhone, but when it dies I may not look at Nokia to replace it; maybe this is the old Linux way of thinking, run it until it dies. I will admit that I know very little of the advantages of upgrading currently, however, I'm not looking to upgrade. I sure hope this is not one of the subjects that spins of into one that's only worthy of /dev/null Denis On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:35 PM, gary liquid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Denis, From the very first day I bought my tablet I knew I was on borrowed time. Just the same as when I purchase a new desktop or laptop or car or phone. Evolutions occur and hardware becomes old. I have had my tablet now for 10 months, it remains valid and up to date and I can do more with it now than the day I bought it. People who purchased n800s have had a much longer lifespan, Nokia maintained compatibility with the hardware when the n810 was released and even gave a clockspeed boost to the 800. In the same way that 770 owners still exist, the n8x0 series will continue and people will still run applications on it, but I and most people queried on this would not expect it to run every single brand new piece of code out there at the same performance level as currently (if at all for some things). If you go and have a look at the difference with the omap2 and the omap3, you will understand there is a lot more that can be done with the new chips and this opens up new avenues for development in all aspects. Those new areas however do not mean what we have now simply ceases to exist, and if done carefully even some new software can expand into the newer hardware and simply perform better there whilst still maintaining compatibility with the previous generation. Shall we expect Nokia to simply cease development work and stop everything because they have users of a current generation who can't use the newer faster better way of doing something? Should Sony have remained at the playstation1 level because they had a lot of owners? I personally can't wait for the upgrades, I think the omap3 and everything that enables will make for a terrific experience and for me it cannot be released soon enough. Gary On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Denis Dimick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I don't own a 700 or an 800, I have an n810, I'm watching what Nokia does with these older models, are they going to require users upgrade the hardware to get new apps, or are they going to support the older hardware? If Nokia does not continue to support older hardware, I'm not sure Nokia going to get any more of my money. $400 for a n810 is a lot to shell out when you can buy a small laptop, Acer, Asus, etc. and have a system with just a tad larger footprint. Just my .02, Denis On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:58 PM, gary liquid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred, From my perspective I'm not sure what would be blocking liqbase from running on the 770. I believe the only none standard things it uses are the XV library and the XSP raw mouse information. If you would like to run liqbase from the console and send me the output I will be happy to give it a run through and see whats going on. I will be happy to attempt to get it running on all Nokia maemo devices, and hopefully it would be a minor tweak :) Gary On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Fred Pacquier [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Ryan Abel a écrit : On Oct 27, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Urivan Saaib wrote: I've been playing with Diablo on my n770 for several months. It has been fairly stable. No, you've been playing with Chinook. Diablo is not available for the 770. Well, this is a question I've meant to ask Quim for a while now, so here is my opportunity. I've asked it here before without an answer, but some threads on ITT have brought it back to light recently. Despite the disparaging remarks by the Maemo team when OS2008HE came out (end-of-the-line, too much for the poor beast etc.), quite a few people (including me) are satisfied with it breathing a new life into their old 770. Maemo Mapper in particular, a rare example of commitment to maintaining a native maemo app on all NIT platforms, works just fine on it. The problem we are having now is that some recent apps, or their Diablo upgrades, fail to install or run, although they could be really useful on a home-bound 770 : to name a few, Canola, Maemo remote (which also uses EFL), or liqbase... So, before the Fremantle wave definitely buries the 770 platform (and maybe the N8x0 too), it would be really good to see a final update bringing the main Diablo improvements to OS2008HE, so
Re: issue with incorrect IP routes being created
Have you tried hard coding an IP into the network settings? It looks like maybe your WiFi network could be putting out dome bad IP info, or the DHCP server serving up IP info. HtH, Denis On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Elwyn Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I have connected my new Nokia N810 to my local wi-fi network. It is mostly working fine except that it appears to have installed a spurious route whish is effectively blackholing some traffic. Details: I have the N810 configured to use a static IP address for my local wireless (wi-fi) network. For the sake of argument let us say this is 11.12.13.249 with a netmask of 255.255.255.240. The gateway for this network is 11.12.13.241. The connectivity mechanism correctly generates a default route via 11.12.13.241 for the wlan interface. However it also generates another route to 11.0.0.0 with netmask 255.0.0.0 . Consequently all packets to addresses 11.x.y.z apart for the local network are effectively blackholed. The routing table is (anonymized) .. Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 11.0.0.0* 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 wlan0 default router.exampl.c 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 wlan0 This is clearly incorrect as the local network is not a /8. Is this a bug in the udhcpc postconfig script when used woth a static address? I can't actually find this script to check. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Elwyn Davies ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: MicroB about:config Awesome Bar
Thanks guys for your help, finally got it turned off. Has anyone thought about writing a book on all the hints and tips? I know there are a few good ones out for the iPhone, and it would be nice to see some for the Nokia. Maybe even have some programming information included; setup and compiling. I know we have the WiKi, however it would be nice to have a book or even a printed PDF to read in while away from the Internet. Thanks again, Denis On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/20/08, Denis Dimick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan, I seem to be a bit dense today, can you give me some more information? Under Control Panal - Input Settings, I don't see the setting. Thanks Denis You can also access these settings anytime the onscreen keyboard is in use by tapping thebottom leftmost key, then Tools-Settings-Languages-Settings Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: disk space running short on /
My Windowz phone lefts me choose to install on my SD card, maybe Nokia will make this an option, or the package developers, since it could be controlled my the .deb package. However, once you remove the SD card, then your going to break your $PATH and what not when trying to run an app that lives on the SD card and is not there. Denis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Christer Eliasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know about symlinks :p And yes as Kenneth pointed out it will bork on the next update. Making a symlink is just a workaround of the real problem. Ie not being able to choose flashing target (which would be nice) or defaulting on internal memorycard on N810. //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 19.27 skrev kenneth marken: On Monday 20 October 2008 19:23:01 James Knott wrote: Laurent GUERBY wrote: Hi, I'm running short of space on / (10 MB free) on my diablo N810 so I have to uninstall some apps to be able to install new apps (which otherwise fail leaving the system in an unknown state, not good). Is there a way to remove useless stuff (like translation, temporary downloads, etc...)? To safely (approved by Nokia) tell the system to put some system stuff to /media/mmc1 instead of /? One nice thing about Linux, is that you can use symbolic links to move a subdirectory to a different filesystem. To do that, you create a new directory on your SD-RAM card and then move the contents of the old directory to is. After that's done, you can create the symlink, so that those files appear in the same location as before, even though they're on a different device. and expect the ssu to break, badly, on the next update... ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: disk space running short on /
Chris, I was speaking about the removable SD on the n810, the internal one is full of Maps and what not for the GPS. Since I never use the GPS; seems like everything else I own has one built-in, I guess I could delete the maps and everything else on /media/mmc2. Thanks, Denis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Christer Eliasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The N810 have a internal memorycard that is non removable (as far as i know) so on that platform the $PATH bork wouldnt happen (hopefully ;) But as you said it shouldnt be that much of a problem to make it work. //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 19.45 skrev Denis Dimick: My Windowz phone lefts me choose to install on my SD card, maybe Nokia will make this an option, or the package developers, since it could be controlled my the .deb package. However, once you remove the SD card, then your going to break your $PATH and what not when trying to run an app that lives on the SD card and is not there. Denis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Christer Eliasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know about symlinks :p And yes as Kenneth pointed out it will bork on the next update. Making a symlink is just a workaround of the real problem. Ie not being able to choose flashing target (which would be nice) or defaulting on internal memorycard on N810. //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 19.27 skrev kenneth marken: On Monday 20 October 2008 19:23:01 James Knott wrote: Laurent GUERBY wrote: Hi, I'm running short of space on / (10 MB free) on my diablo N810 so I have to uninstall some apps to be able to install new apps (which otherwise fail leaving the system in an unknown state, not good). Is there a way to remove useless stuff (like translation, temporary downloads, etc...)? To safely (approved by Nokia) tell the system to put some system stuff to /media/mmc1 instead of /? One nice thing about Linux, is that you can use symbolic links to move a subdirectory to a different filesystem. To do that, you create a new directory on your SD-RAM card and then move the contents of the old directory to is. After that's done, you can create the symlink, so that those files appear in the same location as before, even though they're on a different device. and expect the ssu to break, badly, on the next update... ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: disk space running short on /
Ryan, Say someone does boot from SD, what happens when they remove the SD card to copy data over to it; I've run into a bug that causes scp to die/hang when copying large (AVI) files over wireless. Very good suggestion about boot from SD, I'd forgotten about this. Denis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 20, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Christer Eliasson wrote: But that is also a workaround as i see it as the option of installing to another target should be there by default. The boot-from-SD method is faster, more stable, and generally way better than any let's break the system over multiple partitions- methods (it also provides you with a bootable backup). -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
MicroB about:config Awesome Bar
Anyone know of a way to disable the Awesome Bar in MicroB? I find it annoying when I start to type in a URL and it suggests words I've never entered. Thanks, Denis -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: MicroB about:config Awesome Bar
Maybe I'm confusing it with the lower bar that lists words you can pick from when your typing in a URL. Denis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:38 PM, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Monday 20 October 2008 21:35:05 Denis Dimick wrote: Anyone know of a way to disable the Awesome Bar in MicroB? I find it annoying when I start to type in a URL and it suggests words I've never entered. Thanks, Denis err, when did microb get the awsomebar ported? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: MicroB about:config Awesome Bar
Ryan, I seem to be a bit dense today, can you give me some more information? Under Control Panal - Input Settings, I don't see the setting. Thanks Denis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Denis Dimick wrote: Maybe I'm confusing it with the lower bar that lists words you can pick from when your typing in a URL. Which is a global feature completely unrelated to MicroB. Toggle it in input setting in the control panel. -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: disk space running short on /
Ryan, Very good point, I guess what your really saying is: If your going to be a Power User then act like a Power User and hack your own tools, but provide your own support when it breaks. (Not meant to sound snotty) Thanks, Denis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:59 PM, Christer Eliasson wrote: But as i said above, why doesnt it just work? (Out of the box that is) Because software features aren't free to implement and all software companies have finite resources and priorities? Nokia likely balanced the possible benefits against the costs of implementation and possible pitfalls (How do you explain to users why removing removable media now makes their system unbootable? Or how the card they used to mount on their Windows computer over USB no longer mounts? Or a variety of other issues. . . .) and came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth the time and effort (and suffering for their support staff) for their average user's use-case. Clear enough? -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Removing Modest from Diablo
Without going into details, let's just say, re-install from scratch. It's amazing, after all these years using Linux, I can still manage to screw up a system so bad. ;) I guess that's what's so fun about Linux, every time you feel like learning something new, you have to tools to do it. HtH, Denis On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Matt Emson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Denis Dimick wrote: You could do a force, but your not going to like what happens. Non bootable self destructing system by any chance? Saw that happen trying to force an older version of gcc to install in Chinook. Ouch! M -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Removing Modest from Diablo
You could do a force, but your not going to like what happens. Denis On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Tim Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I so can't stand modest in diablo that I wish to remove it. I tried apt-get remove modest but the system warned me that it was basically going to uninstall a ton of other stuff that I actually still want. I've noticed lately with linux distro's that they use the dependency hook to stop you from easily removing the things you want. Anyway is there a way to tell apt-get to just uninstall modest and ignore the dependency's thank you tim ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: WiFi borked after update
Marius, I agree that updating over a network should, and does work from a normal Linux distro, however, I'm not sure it's going to work on Maemo anytime soon; I'm guessing the small memory footprint prevents some of the applications from not killing off a SSH session when there's an upgrade. I'd say the better thing is to write into the install scripts that need to kill of network concections, a test to ensure there is not an active ssh session, and dump a warrning if there is. You make it idiot proff, and I'll become a better idiot and still find a way to crash it. ;) Thanks, Denis On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 4:03 AM, Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: ext Denis Dimick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While I'm not sure I'm in Red Pill Mode, I did my update from the command line over SSH; a really STUPID ting to do. On a Maemo device, yes. In general, no. Updating while logged in over the network must work in any half-serious OS. (Red-pill mode only affects the UI of the Application manager. It has no effect on apt-get, etc.) -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: WiFi borked after update
While I'm not sure I'm in Red Pill Mode, I did my update from the command line over SSH; a really STUPID ting to do. I did reboot my system last night after doing the upgrade on Sat, and all of a sudden everything looks like it works. There where a number of 3rd party apps that needed to be upgraded, but everything is now working fine. Thanks, Denis On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 6, 2008, at 4:04 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote: I have already changed the defaults of red-pill mode to be 'safer': Show all packages and Show magic:sys are now off by default. Oh thank god! That makes my troubleshooting life so much easier. Three cheers for Marius! Ah, no, just stay out of red-pill mode for updates. They might take some time, but they should not need any baby-sitting. It should be one big download followed by one big installation and a clean reboot. At some point, Red Pill mode became some sort of magical fix-all snake oil that everybody and his brother recommended for every problem. Predictably and unfortunately, most of the people who ended following these recommendations are exactly the people who shouldn't have. The folks on the front lines of community troubleshooting support have done their best to try to stop its usage as a magic bullet, but a lot of people seem to ignore the advice against using it. To anybody reading using Red Pill mode, please don't. If you aren't absolutely positive of what it's going to do, then you're just going to get yourself in trouble. You don't need it and you don't want it, so don't use it. -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: WiFi borked after update
I just noticed, after I upgraded, that I seem to have the same problem, however, it's a icon issue, I can still use the wireless. For some reason it's looks like it's not working, but it is. HtH, Denis On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 4:00 AM, Laurent GUERBY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 10:03 +0300, Patrik Flykt wrote: d I suspect that if I had tried with 'apt-get -f install' or 'apt-get upgrade' immediately I did apt-get -f install and didn't have to reflash indeed. Even if everything works, it looks like situation is not completely clean on my N810: Nokia-N810-23-14:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/ diablo user deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/ diablo user deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/updates/diablo-2/ ./ deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ diablo free non-free deb http://repository.maemo.org/ diablo/tools free deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/ diablo free non-free Nokia-N810-23-14:~# apt-get update ... Nokia-N810-23-14:~# apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Failed The following packages have unmet dependencies. osso-af-startup: Depends: osso-af-utils (= 1.16-1) but it is not going to be installed Depends: osso-core-config but it is not going to be installed E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. Nokia-N810-23-14:~# Please find below compressed output of dpkg -l, what should I do to go back to normal? Thanks! Laurent ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 RIP?
Jeff, The n800 has been discontinued, about a year ago. You may find one on e-bay, or just pick up the n810. HtH, Denis On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Jeffrey Barish [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Has the N800 been discontinued? It isn't available at any of the usual places, nor is it listed at the Nokia web site. -- Jeffrey Barish ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 RIP?
Maybe it just seems like a year. I'll deffer to Ryan on the timeline. My bad, Denis On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 19, 2008, at 1:12 PM, Denis Dimick wrote: The n800 has been discontinued, about a year ago. You may find one on e-bay, or just pick up the n810. Er, year? The N810 hasn't even been _out_ a year. More like 4-6 months. -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 RIP?
I do wish I had the second card slot, however, I don't need the FM radio. I never use the GPS, did use it once when lost, so it's nice to have. Denis On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Gary Baribault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to agree with you there, there where compromises made between. I have an N800, and would love to have the keyboard from the 810, but would not give up the FM and second memory slot to get the keyboard and GPS. Gary Baribault Courriel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: 0x4346F013 GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:12:37AM -0600, Denis Dimick wrote: Jeff, The n800 has been discontinued, about a year ago. You may find one on e-bay, or just pick up the n810. The n810 is *not* an adequate replacement for the 800, just as the 800 is *not* an adequate replacement for the 810. -- hendrik ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: reseting my Nokia 770 back to factory
I don't own a 710, I have a 810, however I assume the procedure is the same; re-flash it. Do a backup so you don't lose your data, but then re-flash and it should be as good as new. HtH, Denis On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Justin Slootsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: How do I reset my Nokia 770 back to as delivered ?? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: mini SDHC card 8 GB in Europe
I'd say look on Amazon, that''s where I found mine in the states. HtH, Denis On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 3:31 AM, Christer Eliasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i bought mine from a swedish dealer (komplett.se) Had to buy a 1Gb card to ge the converter and then a 8Gb micro. All in all i payed about 45€ with shipping for both. (Kingston) Regards Chris 28 aug 2008 kl. 11.10 skrev COURTAUD Didier: Can anyone tell me where I can find a 8 Gb mini ( or micro with a mini adapter) SDHC card in Europe ? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Not ablt to install modest (and other applications) again
You could try downloading and forcing the apps to re-install, or just do a backup, re-flash, and restore. If you pre-download the BIN file the reflash only take about 2 min. HtH, Denis 2008/8/12 Uwe Kaminski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, i removed the modest package: apt-get remove modest apt removed the following packages too: camera gpscamera libosso-email-interface modest numptyphysics osso-addressbook osso-email-interface osso-filemanager osso-filemanager-ui osso-global-search osso-imageviewer After apt-get update i'm not able to install the packages again: Nokia-N800-23-14:/# apt-get install modest Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut Reading state information... Fertig Paket modest ist nicht verfügbar, wird aber von einem anderen Paket referenziert. Das kann heiÃen, dass das Paket fehlt, dass es veraltet ist oder nur aus einer anderen Quelle verfügbar ist. E: Paket modest hat keinen Installationskandidaten What repository i need? Here is a list of the repositories which are active: Nokia-N800-23-14:/# cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/ diablo user deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/ diablo user deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/updates/diablo-1/ ./ deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ diablo free non-free What i can do to install the packages again? Thanks, Uwe -- Uwe Kaminski Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - OpenPGP: http://ju-key.de/publickey/jukey.asc Web: http://internettabletblog.de ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently
Eero, Yes, I had poor battery usage, not even 8 hours, I had a few .mov files and .mpg files that caused the problem, some of them did not have the proper codec to be played by the Media Player. Here's a bit more: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17365 HtH, Denis On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, ext Denis Dimick wrote: I was suffering from the same sort of problem Battery usage / use-time? I found that if I cleaned all my MP3's and Movies off of my internal SD card the problem went away. There may be some specific audio or video files that trigger bugs in libraries that metalayer-crawler uses for extracting the metadata information from these files. So far we know only single problematic WMV file[1], it would be nice if you could debug this issue a bit more to pinpoint the specific file that causes the issues (is it mp3 or video file etc). - Eero [1] Gstreamer issue: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1842 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RSS Feeds?
Why are there not very many RSS feeds from the Maemo community? I work in a place where I'm not able to connect my n810 to the internet during the day, however, I do use Google's Reader application to keep up on Tech news. Maemo.org would be a perfect site to have RSS support for Maemo news as well as new/updated applications. Just my $.02 Denis ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: RSS Feeds?
Jonathan, Thanks for the Feed, Denis On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Have you tried this? http://maemo.org/news/items.xml On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Denis Dimick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are there not very many RSS feeds from the Maemo community? I work in a place where I'm not able to connect my n810 to the internet during the day, however, I do use Google's Reader application to keep up on Tech news. Maemo.org would be a perfect site to have RSS support for Maemo news as well as new/updated applications. Just my $.02 Denis ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently
I was suffering from the same sort of problem, I found that if I cleaned all my MP3's and Movies off of my internal SD card the problem went away. Not sure if this helps, Denis On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Igor Stoppa wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 19:30 +0300, ext Eero Tamminen wrote: When you're not using the device, I would recommend putting it to offline mode, that's an option in the power-button menu that disables all radios in the device (next time you need to use net, just OK a dialog that the device gives you). This can make a large difference if you have processes that like to often check things from the network. (above could be added to good answers about battery usage I guess) Well, it's a workaround, but the right answer is that those processes are obviously buggy and must be fixed. I'm playing with other ugly workaround - sending SIGSTOP when touchscreen/keys are locked and SIGCONT when unlocking to such buggy processes. Works nice for browser or scummvm :-) Once I finetune list of suitable tasks it would work like real device suspend :-) Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Installing Diablo
Anyone hab=ve the URL for the install instructions for Diablo? I just had to re-install and can't find the instructions for using the flasher-and-reboot tool. Thanks, Denis ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Installing Diablo
Andre, Thanks, your a life saver! Denis On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Andre Klapper [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, Am Montag, den 04.08.2008, 18:01 -0600 schrieb Denis Dimick: Anyone hab=ve the URL for the install instructions for Diablo? I just had to re-install and can't find the instructions for using the flasher-and-reboot tool. https://wiki.maemo.org/Upgrading_tablet_OS andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Counting SD ram
The n810 will take a 16gig SD card, (mini or micro), and so will the n800. I also assume that if and when the 32 gig cards come out you could use them also. HtH, Denis On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 12:38 PM, ScottW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I keep seeing people saying they have 2 8gig SD chips in their n810, yet I only see a slot for 1. Where does the 2nd one go? That'd be an N800. The N810's internal card is a permanent 2GB. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Need Some Scratchbox Help
If I recall correctly I had GCC installed before I built the toolchain and everything worked. I also just downloaded sqlite3 and used dep -i to install it, it works fine for me running Diablo. HtH, Denis On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I've installed (via other Linux process) scratchbox and ran run_me_first.sh. I've setup the sbox group and user and have run sb-menu. So I think I'm good to go. However, I need to compile/install sqlite3 on the 810 which requires a C++ compiler (I don't think the scratchbox will help here). Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Nick. *From:* Dr. Nicholas Shaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:35 *To:* 'Dr. Nicholas Shaw'; 'Maemo Users' *Subject:* RE: Need Some Scratchbox Help Sorry, one last piece of information. I went to /var/lib/apt/lists and here are the files relating to scratchbox: · Scratchbox.org_debian_dists_maemo4-sdk_Release · Scratchbox.org_debian_dists_maemo4-sdk_main_binary-i386_Packages Again, thanks! Nick. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Dr. Nicholas Shaw *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:32 *To:* 'Maemo Users' *Subject:* Need Some Scratchbox Help Good morning (where I am anyway) all! I'm running Debian 4R3. I went to Maemo.org/developers and downloaded/ran the scratchbox script according to the INSTALL.TXT. I'm installing Chinook as that is the version of 2008 I'm running. The install file is maemo-scratchbox-install_4.0.1.sh. As root, I ran chmod a+x on the file then ran it. It checks for prerequisites and states that everything seems to be ok. The script continues until it gets to Ign http://scratchbox.org ./ Packages where I receive an error 404 Not Found. The script continues until the next error, Failed to fetch http://scratchbox.org/debian/./Packages.gzhttp://scratchbox.org/debian/Packages.gz404 Not Found followed by W: Couldn't stat source package list http://scratchbox.org ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/scratchbox.org_debian_._Packages) – stat (2 No such file or directory). The last line recommended trying an alternative installation method. Ok, so I chose to install it manually. After downloading the appropriate files, I followed the instructions ( http://scratchbox.org/documentation/user/scratchbox-1.0/html/installdoc.html#AEN39). As root, I first added deb http://scratchbox.org/debian ./http://scratchbox.org/debian%20./ to /etc/apt/sources.list. I then ran apt-get update. All seemed to be ok up to this point. I then ran apt-get install on the packages and failed on the same error as when I ran the install script. Any help will be greatly appreciated! And, in advance – THANK YOU! Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Need Some Scratchbox Help
I did an apt-get -d install and then installed the .deb package that ended up in /vat/apt/cache/archive/ If I recall correctly. if you do an apt-cache search sqlite it will show there's a .deb package Denis On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Denis, Did you install the binaries from sqlite.org? If so, which binaries (I didn't see any binaries for ARM devices)? If you got sqlite3 from somewhere else that has precompiled binaries, please share. I've had to compile from source on each version of Linux I've run. Thanks and I appreciate the help! Nick. *From:* Denis Dimick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:34 *To:* Dr. Nicholas Shaw *Cc:* Maemo Users *Subject:* Re: Need Some Scratchbox Help If I recall correctly I had GCC installed before I built the toolchain and everything worked. I also just downloaded sqlite3 and used dep -i to install it, it works fine for me running Diablo. HtH, Denis On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I've installed (via other Linux process) scratchbox and ran run_me_first.sh. I've setup the sbox group and user and have run sb-menu. So I think I'm good to go. However, I need to compile/install sqlite3 on the 810 which requires a C++ compiler (I don't think the scratchbox will help here). Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Nick. *From:* Dr. Nicholas Shaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:35 *To:* 'Dr. Nicholas Shaw'; 'Maemo Users' *Subject:* RE: Need Some Scratchbox Help Sorry, one last piece of information. I went to /var/lib/apt/lists and here are the files relating to scratchbox: · Scratchbox.org_debian_dists_maemo4-sdk_Release · Scratchbox.org_debian_dists_maemo4-sdk_main_binary-i386_Packages Again, thanks! Nick. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Dr. Nicholas Shaw *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:32 *To:* 'Maemo Users' *Subject:* Need Some Scratchbox Help Good morning (where I am anyway) all! I'm running Debian 4R3. I went to Maemo.org/developers and downloaded/ran the scratchbox script according to the INSTALL.TXT. I'm installing Chinook as that is the version of 2008 I'm running. The install file is maemo-scratchbox-install_4.0.1.sh. As root, I ran chmod a+x on the file then ran it. It checks for prerequisites and states that everything seems to be ok. The script continues until it gets to Ign http://scratchbox.org ./ Packages where I receive an error 404 Not Found. The script continues until the next error, Failed to fetch http://scratchbox.org/debian/./Packages.gzhttp://scratchbox.org/debian/Packages.gz404 Not Found followed by W: Couldn't stat source package list http://scratchbox.org ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/scratchbox.org_debian_._Packages) – stat (2 No such file or directory). The last line recommended trying an alternative installation method. Ok, so I chose to install it manually. After downloading the appropriate files, I followed the instructions ( http://scratchbox.org/documentation/user/scratchbox-1.0/html/installdoc.html#AEN39). As root, I first added deb http://scratchbox.org/debian ./http://scratchbox.org/debian%20./ to /etc/apt/sources.list. I then ran apt-get update. All seemed to be ok up to this point. I then ran apt-get install on the packages and failed on the same error as when I ran the install script. Any help will be greatly appreciated! And, in advance – THANK YOU! Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Installing wget on Os2008/Diablo
open up the terminal, become root, type apt-get install wget Denis On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:50 PM, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, has anyone been able to install wget on OS2008/Diablo? If so can you share how you did it? I thought I saw wget on the application manager list but if it was there, it is gone now. Is the easiest way to simply enable red pill mode, run the application manager, install it and then turn off red pill mode? -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Removing excess packages after Diablo upgrade
The best way would be by deleting them by hand. Using apt-get remove could/will cause packages to be deleted that you do not want deleted. HtH, Denis On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:38 AM, R. G. Newbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was browsing the 'Installed Applications' list. There are numerous packages which I would like to remove, starting with the language packs for ezitext. These along with many other packages (chinese-font, clink-av0, gnuchess for example) are listed as dependencies/requirements of 'OS2008 feature upgrade 1:4.2008.23-14'. Is there any way to remove this sort of restriction? (Unpack, revise and repack the .deb for example.?) There are megabytes of programs which I do not need nor want, and would like to remove. Geoff ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Error updating from main Maemo repository
I'd wait a few hours and give it a try again. I've noticed that a lot of the repositories seem to fall off the internet at times. HtH, Denis On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Andrea Grandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've a N810 (diablo release) and I get some errors trying to update package list with apt-get: Ign http://repository.maemo.org diablo/non-free Packages/DiffIndex Err http://repository.maemo.org diablo/free Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 79.140.81.66 80] Err http://repository.maemo.org diablo/non-free Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 79.140.81.66 80] Hit http://repository.maemo.org diablo/free Packages Hit http://repository.maemo.org diablo/non-free Packages Ign http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com diablo/user Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com diablo/user Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com ./ Packages/DiffIndex Hit http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com diablo/user Packages Hit http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com diablo/user Packages Hit http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com ./ Packages Scaricato 3B in 11s (0B/s) Impossibile ottenere http://repository.maemo.org/dists/diablo/free/binary-armel/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 79.140.81.66 80] Impossibile ottenere http://repository.maemo.org/dists/diablo/non-free/binary-armel/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 79.140.81.66 80] Lettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso... Fatto W: Conflicting distribution: http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com diablo Release (expected diablo but got ) W: È consigliabile eseguire apt-get update per correggere questi problemi E: Impossibile scaricare alcune file di indice, essi verranno ignorati, oppure si useranno quelli precedenti. Nokia-N810-23-14:~# The repository which causes errors is this one: Name: Maemo Url: http://repository.maemo.org Distribuzione: Componenti: free non-free I leave Distribuzione empty, it should put diablo automatically, right? I cannot get this file from my PC too: http://repository.maemo.org/dists/diablo/free/binary-armel/Packages.gz I see that repository.maemo.org has 2 ip, maybe there is one that doesn't work? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ nslookup repository.maemo.org Server: 192.168.0.1 Address:192.168.0.1#53 Non-authoritative answer: repository.maemo.orgcanonical name = repository.maemo.org.edgesuite.net. repository.maemo.org.edgesuite.net canonical name = a515.g.akamai.net . Name: a515.g.akamai.net Address: 79.140.81.42 Name: a515.g.akamai.net Address: 79.140.81.66 Thanks for your help! -- Andrea Grandi email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com website: http://www.andreagrandi.it PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: About Process
Cedric, I fairly sure that apt-get update will/does spawn a number of http process to download the Packages file, however, I have no idea how to change this. I've looked in the documentation for apt-get and it's not defined, or I just missed it. Denis On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:27 AM, cedric cellier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -[ Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 09:15:22PM -0600, Denis Dimick ] I don't think you will see apt-get upgrade spawn child processes running But what about apt-get _update_ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently
I have to agree that RTFM is a painful response, Here's what I'd do. 1. Backup all your data. 2. Restore to the current version you are running. 3. DONT restore your applications. Just restore your data. 4. Install one application at a time until you see the same behavior your seeing now. - Keep a list of what you installed. This may be the problem application. 5. Do a new restore, don't allow the applications to be installed. 6. Reinstall all applications up to the one that caused the reboot. - See if the Nokia is stable. 7. If it's not stable, go back the the bug report and tell everyone what applications you had installed and which one you added that caused your system to become unstable. HtH, Denis On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.htmlhttp://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/%7Esgtatham/bugs.html This is not helpful and in fact is inflammatory. When one has a problem with a device it is helpful to find out if others are having the same problem, and may have already solved it. If so, great. If no one else is having the same problem, then it's probably an installed app rather than the OS. Then one can start narrowing down suspects as to the cause. People have to start somewhere, and why should they duplicate efforts that others have already made, or go to great lengths to fix something that is impossible because it's a bug in the OS? RTFM is *never* an acceptable response. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently
A a Flamewar, can we do Vi vers. Emacs next? Ducks and runs away.. Denis On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 10:57 -0600, ext Mark wrote: ... by RTFM-ing something that has nothing to do with the problem. I think the message do ut des was quite clear. Make an effort to explain your problem and you might be helped. End of transmission. -- Cheers, Igor --- Igor Stoppa Maemo Software - Nokia Devices RD - Helsinki ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: About Process
I think Marius is correct, apt-get will spawn child process, one for each repository, hoever, when downloading and installing via apt-get install there should only be one http process running to retrieve the application for install. Denis On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:06 AM, Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext Zhenghe Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you want to download three packages ,you will see three processes of /usr/lib/apt/methods/http. And if you want to download ten package ,you will see ten processes. I don't think this is true. Apt-get will use one http process per server for parallel downloading, not one per package. I want to ask you about controling the processes of http.I would like to limit the number of the process when download many packages. You can use the Acquire::Queue-Mode setting. See the apt.conf man page. Since we have so many repositories and since that seems to cause some problems, we should probably use Acquire::Queue-Mode access; by default. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: can you help
I have to agree, Please post like this: 1. I want to know how to do this. 2. I need help on this. Just break your help request down to simple one liners so we can figure out what you want/need. Thanks, Denis On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Andre Klapper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Sonntag, den 13.07.2008, 10:58 -0700 schrieb Jeff Treague: I want to know how to put software on n810 that is on your site and other sites. can I delete thig once they are put on for the n770 and n810 can you tell me how I have some stuf on my n770 that I cant take off to put other stuff on I like the one I Got but would like to up grade oh can I wright on the 810 and convert it to a word document so I Can read and edit it on my laptop I love to work with picters and this is grate for that the other thing I want is a bible that I can look up a verses and use it at church can you help me Jeff Treague emal [EMAIL PROTECTED] I must admit that I have problems to read mail that misses any punctuation and is kept as vague as possible. andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: About Process
I don't think you will see apt-get upgrade spawn child processes running http, since it downloads and installs the files one at a time, I do think the update switch will spawn a number of http processes. I'm getting most of my information out of 'The DEBIAN SYSTEM by Martin F. Krafft. ISBN 1593270690 You may want to grab a copy and read chapter 5. Denis 2008/7/14 Zhenghe Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Denis, That is right that you say. But if you add many repositories and enter apt-get update in terminal ,you will find many processes , do you think ? Thanks Zhenghe Zhang -- *From:* Denis Dimick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 2008年7月15日 0:26 *To:* Marius Vollmer *Cc:* Zhenghe Zhang; maemo-users@maemo.org *Subject:* Re: About Process I think Marius is correct, apt-get will spawn child process, one for each repository, hoever, when downloading and installing via apt-get install there should only be one http process running to retrieve the application for install. Denis On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:06 AM, Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext Zhenghe Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you want to download three packages ,you will see three processes of /usr/lib/apt/methods/http. And if you want to download ten package ,you will see ten processes. I don't think this is true. Apt-get will use one http process per server for parallel downloading, not one per package. I want to ask you about controling the processes of http.I would like to limit the number of the process when download many packages. You can use the Acquire::Queue-Mode setting. See the apt.conf man page. Since we have so many repositories and since that seems to cause some problems, we should probably use Acquire::Queue-Mode access; by default. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: About Process
Until Maemo is able to get one central repository with mirrors, located off of a good connection to the internet, we will continue to see this problem Denis On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Cedric Cellier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -[ Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 01:26:28PM -0600, Denis Dimick ] I'll take a wild guess here, and say that apt is using the http protocol to read the repository Packages lists. I also bet that the Package look-ups are done in some sort of parallel manner. Yes, but I harldy believe the networking behind that is the problem. Come on, 10 HTTP connections will not slow down the tablet :-) But 10 scripts/programs might if not properly implemented (for instance if they poll for some reason, or deadloop around a faulty select(), etc...). ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: About Process
I'll take a wild guess here, and say that apt is using the http protocol to read the repository Packages lists. I also bet that the Package look-ups are done in some sort of parallel manner. Denis On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:51 AM, cedric cellier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not manage to get more than one apt worker when refreshing apps list (on Diablo with n810). Maybe it depends on your repository set ? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: How to clone an N800?
Julius, Kind of dumb of me to think of it just now, but what if you preloaded all the packages in the mmc and then folowed section 2 here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html Denis On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Julius Szelagiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Denis, I did just that. I move the expanded repo info to /etc/apt/sources.d/ and run apt-get update, apt-get -y install ... This works for for most apps, but somehow xournal install asks to select the menu to attach to. This general approach requires loading openssh by hand before any further steps are possible. altogether it takes me about 30 to 40 minutes to configure and test a single N800, multiplied by 50 julius On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Denis Dimick wrote: I wonder if you could do an apt-get -y APP_NAME and get them to install. The -y tells it to just install, not ask any thing. Then you could write a short script to do the install. Denis On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Julius Szelagiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Denis, the system tries to install the missing apps, but it fails with some, as they need user input to select the installation folder. My frustration now is much, much greater - I've set and tested two N800 tablets yesterday - worked perfectly. Today they won't finish the power sequence. Is there a way to display detailed info instead of the blue bar? It would be good to see where they fail. Actually i should send it as a separate question. julius I know on the n810 that the backup will allow you to automatically reinstall applications, will the n800 not support this? Thanks, Denis On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Julius Szelagiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Denis, the difficulty here is that backup doesn't store the installed software, only applicatio list, so each tablet has to be updated by hand. I was hoping for an easy cloning via an image push - something like clonezilla or gnu ghost. julius On Sun, 6 Jul 2008, Denis Dimick wrote: Sorry for jumping in, but what if you set-up one unit, did a backup, then restored the backup to all units? Denis On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Julius Szelagiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ville, you are right - pain is a very fluid concept. I will test your way and report the results. I just don't fancy setting 50 units by and. Thank you, julius On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Ville Reijonen wrote: Dear Folks, What is the best way to clone an N800? As I need to be able to roll out a bunch of them - 30 now, 20 in a couple months I'd love to get a Golden Image and copy it over very quickly to new tablets. Pain is so relative consept. I did this in old 770 days.. preparation took time but flashing was a breeze.. step by step: PHASE 1 - Prepare: 1) Make the base install on one device. 2) Modify it as far as you can so that it is good for every device. 3) Tar the rootfs (with gnu tar) to memory card. 4) Make device dependent modification. 5) Tar the individual rootfs to memory card. 6) Compare the tar packages, and see if there is some way to automate the individual change as a script. 7) Repeat 4-6 for every device dependent change.. or do them all at once :) PHASE 2 - Create custom image: 1) Unpack Nokia FIASCO image for rootfs (with flasher program) or create right size jffs2 rootfs image. 2) Mount the rootfs image (guide in maemo wiki), replace contents with the tar you have on the memory card. 3) put your customizing script for example into /etc/rc2.d/ and make sure that the script file is deleted in the end. 4) packages which have to be installed on the device, put them in the image into some folder like / and install those with dpkg from the script or apt-get -y them over the air from the script, delete packages after installing. PHASE 3 - Flash: 1) Flash the image in parts with your own rootfs replacing the original. 2) Boot the device. If packages are installed, some ui action is needed. Or maybe you customized the package so that there is no need. P.S. Script debugging is easier when the output goes to a file.. :) -- VRe ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo
Re: Time aware daemons
I'd suspect that it's still not supported since it would be a battery drain. Denis On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Kahlil Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So i asked a while ago about tasks and scheduling features of maemo, they told me that there was some missing component that was impossible for crond or at. i wonder if this still the same problem now that Diablo is out and might had fix that. -- Kahlil Johnson Ya tengo GMAIL!! ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: seek help
I think you need to use apt-get not apt HtH, Denis On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:21 AM, Zhenghe Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear I know you are wise men. So I would like to ask a question, I hope you help me. I want to install the package of apt, it can do make ,but do not make install,And didn't create a deb-package. Appendix: the 'apt' is installed in the beginning ,I want to upload the apt,but I don't know how to do. Thanks ! ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: How to clone an N800?
I wonder if you could do an apt-get -y APP_NAME and get them to install. The -y tells it to just install, not ask any thing. Then you could write a short script to do the install. Denis On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Julius Szelagiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Denis, the system tries to install the missing apps, but it fails with some, as they need user input to select the installation folder. My frustration now is much, much greater - I've set and tested two N800 tablets yesterday - worked perfectly. Today they won't finish the power sequence. Is there a way to display detailed info instead of the blue bar? It would be good to see where they fail. Actually i should send it as a separate question. julius I know on the n810 that the backup will allow you to automatically reinstall applications, will the n800 not support this? Thanks, Denis On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Julius Szelagiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Denis, the difficulty here is that backup doesn't store the installed software, only applicatio list, so each tablet has to be updated by hand. I was hoping for an easy cloning via an image push - something like clonezilla or gnu ghost. julius On Sun, 6 Jul 2008, Denis Dimick wrote: Sorry for jumping in, but what if you set-up one unit, did a backup, then restored the backup to all units? Denis On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Julius Szelagiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ville, you are right - pain is a very fluid concept. I will test your way and report the results. I just don't fancy setting 50 units by and. Thank you, julius On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Ville Reijonen wrote: Dear Folks, What is the best way to clone an N800? As I need to be able to roll out a bunch of them - 30 now, 20 in a couple months I'd love to get a Golden Image and copy it over very quickly to new tablets. Pain is so relative consept. I did this in old 770 days.. preparation took time but flashing was a breeze.. step by step: PHASE 1 - Prepare: 1) Make the base install on one device. 2) Modify it as far as you can so that it is good for every device. 3) Tar the rootfs (with gnu tar) to memory card. 4) Make device dependent modification. 5) Tar the individual rootfs to memory card. 6) Compare the tar packages, and see if there is some way to automate the individual change as a script. 7) Repeat 4-6 for every device dependent change.. or do them all at once :) PHASE 2 - Create custom image: 1) Unpack Nokia FIASCO image for rootfs (with flasher program) or create right size jffs2 rootfs image. 2) Mount the rootfs image (guide in maemo wiki), replace contents with the tar you have on the memory card. 3) put your customizing script for example into /etc/rc2.d/ and make sure that the script file is deleted in the end. 4) packages which have to be installed on the device, put them in the image into some folder like / and install those with dpkg from the script or apt-get -y them over the air from the script, delete packages after installing. PHASE 3 - Flash: 1) Flash the image in parts with your own rootfs replacing the original. 2) Boot the device. If packages are installed, some ui action is needed. Or maybe you customized the package so that there is no need. P.S. Script debugging is easier when the output goes to a file.. :) -- VRe ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: how to put apps in My Selection tab
Thanks Martin, I'll have to try that next flash, for now I just deleted the .desktop file. Thanks, Denis On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Martin Thierer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know how to delete items like Skype? I think the easiest way is to install the program and then uninstall it immediatly. The installer entry won't appear again after uninstalling. That's what I did and it worked for both skype and gizmo. Martin ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: how to put apps in 'My Selection' tab
That's what I also did, however, I'd like to blow it out completely. After screwing up and needing to re-flash once, I'm take a bit more care. :) I guess as I learn more about the n810, I'll figure out how to do it and post it. Thanks, Denis On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Julius Szelagiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Denis, thanks for the tip - works like magic. I haven't found a way to delete skype, but I disappeared it by creating a junk category and moving all the unneeded shortcuts there. julius Anyone know how to delete items like Skype? Thanks, Denis On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Cedric Cellier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -[ Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 04:53:59PM -0400, Julius Szelagiewicz ] Jonathan, Thank you for the lightning fast response. unfortunately I didn't find there whta i was looking for. How do i place osso-xterm in My selection? Or better yet how do i place a shortcut to it on the desktop? Thank you, julius Once in the organize dialog, you can drag and drop applications from the application list to the pannel list. So drag xterm into My selection and you are done. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: how to put apps in 'My Selection' tab
Ryan, Thanks! I'm very cautious about using apt-get remove, I've been burned before. It seems to me that there are a LOT off applications with broken removal settings. Thanks, Denis On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NO! Do not do this. osso-version-rx*4 depends on skype-installer, so removing it will also remove that, and, tada, no more SSU updates. :) Just take the .desktop file out of /usr/share/applications/hildon/ On Jul 2, 2008, at 2:44 PM, Julius Szelagiewicz wrote: Dennis, I misunderstood you. What you need to do is: apt-get remove skype-installer julius That's what I also did, however, I'd like to blow it out completely. After screwing up and needing to re-flash once, I'm take a bit more care. :) I guess as I learn more about the n810, I'll figure out how to do it and post it. Thanks, Denis On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Julius Szelagiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Denis, thanks for the tip - works like magic. I haven't found a way to delete skype, but I disappeared it by creating a junk category and moving all the unneeded shortcuts there. julius Anyone know how to delete items like Skype? Thanks, Denis On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Cedric Cellier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -[ Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 04:53:59PM -0400, Julius Szelagiewicz ] Jonathan, Thank you for the lightning fast response. unfortunately I didn't find there whta i was looking for. How do i place osso-xterm in My selection? Or better yet how do i place a shortcut to it on the desktop? Thank you, julius Once in the organize dialog, you can drag and drop applications from the application list to the pannel list. So drag xterm into My selection and you are done. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: locked device
I think the only way to fix this is to re-flash the unit. Denis On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I don't know how but a friend of mine has blocked my device and he doesn't know what pin has entered (I've probed many...) I have dual boot,so I'm still able to boot my device with original session, but not with the external one... Any guide for recovering the pin? Do I have to reinstall it? TIA, Arnau ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: locked device
If you find someway to get it unlocked with out re-flashing, please post it, I'm sure your not the only one to see this. Good Luck, Denis On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:13:45 -0600 Denis Dimick wrote: I think the only way to fix this is to re-flash the unit. Well... I'll wait for some trick, if not, I'll do it this weekend! Thanks for your reply, Denis Arnau ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] usb720 broadband dongle
Can you place a powered hug in between and place the Nokia in Host mode? Denis On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Aaron Newcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like this device needs 700mA to run :( On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Aaron Newcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Matan. I hope the power is enough. I have the configuration files on my laptop so I should be able to reuse those. Also, on my laptop I use pppd to make the connection and it looks like pppd is in /usr/sbin on my tablet. Has anyone used pppd successfully on the n810? Now I just need to do some research to figure out how to compile kernel modules. If anyone can point me to a good how-to that would be great. I am going to check out the wiki now ... On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Matan Ziv-Av [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is supported by linux module airprime which is in the source of the kernel used in OS2008, but not compiled by default, so you'll need to compile this module. The main thing I'd worry about is wether the module works with 100mA that N800/N810 provides. Search google for something like verizon usb720 linux for instructions on how to make it work at the IP level, though you will also need some DUMMY connection to make maemo application aware of the connection. -- Matan Ziv-Av. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Thanks, Aaron Newcomb http://www.thesourceshow.org http://www.opennewsshow.org -- Thanks, Aaron Newcomb http://www.thesourceshow.org http://www.opennewsshow.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Application Manager - Refresh application list
If you just let it sit there, it should finally fail and tell you what repository's failed. Or use apt-get update from the command line and see what errors out. HtH, Denis On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Refresh application list function of Application Manager invariably stalls before completion, and I have to cancel and try at least 3 times, often more, before it finally successfully completes. I've tried just letting it go to see if it will resume, but it will sit for hours without any change. Does anybody else experience this? Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Anonymous wiki edits: disable NOW (please)
One way to address this would be, allow registered users to edit and have the edits update in real time, and have the anonymous edit vetted before allowing them to be added. -Denis On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Frantisek Dufka wrote: Dave Neary wrote: Frantisek Dufka wrote: I do see harm http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/11259#11259 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/11260#11260 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/11264#11264 I respectfully disagree. BTW, did you read all three links/opinions? Yes. I understand the arguments - creating an account is a barrier to entry, and we might dissuade newcomers from doing minor edits. The argument of Jonathan that since the wiki is versioon controlled, and thus rolling back spam does not cost much, is flawed, because in the case of anonymous spam, the spamming is automated, the roll-backs are manual, and there are a lot of them to do. I agree that having a challenge-response for anonymous user edits will reduce the spam, but it doesn't address the second reason I don't like anonymous edits - which is knowing who wrote what. We ask that people subscribe to a mailing list before mailing to it, Yes, that's major pain too :-) Same principle applies, if they don't want my contribution, why bother? I don't have time to subscribe to 101 mailing lists just to post once or twice there. I imagine you'd say the same about creating bug reports in bugzilla? Users can login if they want. Captcha would remind them that they are not logged-in and same page could provide login box too. Forcing random contributors to register is not very nice goal IMO. I don't think that being able to do anonymous edits is a right - in fact, I feel that having people identify themselves is normal, and a minimum expectation. BTW, feel free to CC the list back if you wish Oops - I hadn't noticed that the list wasn't CCed. Cheers, Dave. -- maemo.org docsmaster Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Anonymous wiki edits: disable NOW (please)
Didn't think of it that way, I'd have to say, never mind then. Thanks, Denis On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 24, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Denis Dimick wrote: One way to address this would be, allow registered users to edit and have the edits update in real time, and have the anonymous edit vetted before allowing them to be added. :shudder: . . . You can be in charge of combining those edits. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
N810 Boot screen
Is there anyway to change the default boot screen on the n810 so it shows boot information, not just the graphics? Thanks, Denis ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Installing evince on an N810
It's pretty simple, do you know how to ssh into your Nokia, and gain root? Here's the commands that will install it: (all commands assume you have internet access) apt-get install python2.5 apt-get install python2.5-gtk2 apt-get python2.5-hildon apt-get python2.5-xml - These packages may have already been installed. Now download and install python-gdata, since I don't know where the repository is, I just downloaded then used dpkg -i python-gdata to install it do the same for erminig using dpkg, then you need to have internet access to run erminig for the very first time, if not it just crashes. HtH, Denis On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Rick Bilonick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to install evince on a Nokia N810? It is listed in the catalog but when I try to install it, it always says that libhildonfm2 is missing. I've gone to a site that lists a lot of repositories and it says the chinook maemo.org repository has the lib (and there is a temporay chinook library - not sure why). I've added this repository but I never see libhildonfm2 in the catalog list (even after refreshing). For some reason, when I try to display any pdf using the native pdf viewer, it always says the files are corrupted. I've installed lots of other software but keep running into dependencies that cannot be resolved for some apps. Could some one straighten me out? Rick B. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Installing evince on an N810
Absolutely nothing - man do I feel dumb now.. Thanks for point out my error, and sorry for the noise. Denis On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:47:14PM -0600, Denis Dimick wrote: It's pretty simple, do you know how to ssh into your Nokia, and gain root? Here's the commands that will install it: (all commands assume you have internet access) apt-get install python2.5 apt-get install python2.5-gtk2 apt-get python2.5-hildon apt-get python2.5-xml - These packages may have already been installed. Now download and install python-gdata, since I don't know where the repository is, I just downloaded then used dpkg -i python-gdata to install it do the same for erminig using dpkg, then you need to have internet access to run erminig for the very first time, if not it just crashes. What does this have to do with installing evince? Marius Gedminas -- Why do geeks think Halloween and Christmas occur on the same day? Because 31oct = 25dec! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIX/I7kVdEXeem148RAoYSAJ9ytERShcHJ+odWbFV/9Bp2qw1jNgCfcBtJ vWXS90aD7Z3RN5wAk3f4dnc= =B3xF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: External Keyboard Recommendations
Matt's right, don't use BT. I'm using one of two KB's both are USB. One's a roll-up plastic/rubber one, nice to take on the road, and the others a normal US 101 key. Don't have a wireless one to play with, but would not use Bluetooth since it drains the battery. HtH, Denis On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Matt Emson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: So any recommendations on [...] external keyboards since the Stowaway seems to have been taken off the market? Yes, buy a OTG dongle and go USB. Bluetooth is a PITA. USB works really well. The adapter will cost you less than $10 is you shop around, the keyboard - well, however much you are willing to pay. The world is your oyster. I've personally got a wired micro keyboard, bought from Maplin in the UK, and have also used a Logitech wireless USB keyboard. I would never in a million years use Bluetooth now. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Wayfinder Map app won't update
Mark, The other way to upgrade would be to open X-Windows, become root, then enter this command: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade The first command updates your repository list, the second upgrades any packages found. the ; just tells unix to run the second command after the first. HtH, Denis On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Faheem Pervez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the Map application can be updated in Red Pill mode: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationManagerRedPillMode/ Remember to put it back into BluePill mode after updating. Regards, Faheem Great! That did the trick. Thanks! Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Wayfinder Map app won't update
I'm very weary of doing un-installs, it seems some of the packages don't properly un-install, they over un-install; remove more then they should. Denis On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think that works. I think it's an upgrade-only package and doesn't include the full package. It's definitely smaller than the full install download. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, and the upgrade still showed on the list afterward. Mark On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Martin Grimme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could also uninstall the installed version first. Then you will be able to install the new version without problems. Cheers, Martin 2008/6/20, Denis Dimick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mark, The other way to upgrade would be to open X-Windows, become root, then enter this command: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade The first command updates your repository list, the second upgrades any packages found. the ; just tells unix to run the second command after the first. HtH, Denis On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Faheem Pervez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the Map application can be updated in Red Pill mode: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationManagerRedPillMode/ Remember to put it back into BluePill mode after updating. Regards, Faheem Great! That did the trick. Thanks! Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Screwed up my battery status
It looks like theses two files are only provided in the flash image, guess I'm going to be re-flashing tonight :) Thanks, Denis On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 19 Jun 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 3 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:35:29 -0600 From: Denis Dimick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Screwed up my battery status To: maemo-users@maemo.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I was trying to delete my non-needed local files and ended up deleted hildon-status-bar-battery and osso-dsm-ui anyone know where to get these without doing a full install? dpkg -S filename will tell you which package contains any particular file. Once you know that, all you need to do is reinstall that particular package. -- Tony Green Ipswich, Suffolk, England http://www.beermad.org.uk http://no2id-ip.web-brewer.co.uk ** This message is digitally signed. If your email client is unable to read digital signatures, you may see an attachment that you cannot open. See http://www.gnupg.org/(en)/documentation/faqs.htmlhttp://www.gnupg.org/%28en%29/documentation/faqs.htmlfor more information. You can validate my PGP key from my website: http://www.beermad.org.uk/ * No Micro$oft products were used in the generation of this communication ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Screwed up my battery status
Tony, Thanks, I do have Linux, so I'll give it a look. Denis On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Faheem Pervez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have Linux, http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ModifyingRootImage/will tell you how to open up a rootfs.jffs2 and you can then dpkg-repack or tar.gz the files you need. On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Denis Dimick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like theses two files are only provided in the flash image, guess I'm going to be re-flashing tonight :) Thanks, Denis On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 19 Jun 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 3 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:35:29 -0600 From: Denis Dimick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Screwed up my battery status To: maemo-users@maemo.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I was trying to delete my non-needed local files and ended up deleted hildon-status-bar-battery and osso-dsm-ui anyone know where to get these without doing a full install? dpkg -S filename will tell you which package contains any particular file. Once you know that, all you need to do is reinstall that particular package. -- Tony Green Ipswich, Suffolk, England http://www.beermad.org.uk http://no2id-ip.web-brewer.co.uk ** This message is digitally signed. If your email client is unable to read digital signatures, you may see an attachment that you cannot open. See http://www.gnupg.org/(en)/documentation/faqs.htmlhttp://www.gnupg.org/%28en%29/documentation/faqs.htmlfor more information. You can validate my PGP key from my website: http://www.beermad.org.uk/ * No Micro$oft products were used in the generation of this communication ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Thanks for all the help
After a lot of digging around and a lot of help off the mailing list if finally was able to reinstall hildon-status-bar-battery: What I did: Followed these instructions: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ModifyingRootImage/ then after the filesystem was mounted on a lInux system, issued this command to re-make a .deb file fakeroot -u dpkg-repack -arch=armel --root /home/gbrehm/nokia/ hildon-status-bar-battery While I'd like to take credit for all of this, was completed by a friend of mine George Bhrem. Thanks, George Denis ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Removing unneeded langages
Has anyone tried to remove any of the local file that are not needed? It looks like there are over 800+ files I could remove and free up some space. Thanks, Denis ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Screwed up my battery status
I was trying to delete my non-needed local files and ended up deleted hildon-status-bar-battery and osso-dsm-ui anyone know where to get these without doing a full install? Thanks, Denis ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia: Linux Needs to Learn Business
With the Android shipping next year, I wonder what effect it will have on the debate? Since Apple announced it's SDK, I have noticed a large drop in the number of applications being developed, as well as updates being published. I think this is an indicator that the market, or a subset of the market, wants an open model and is growing tired of not truly owning their phones. One other thing I have noticed, I've only had my n810 for 4 days now, and owned a iPhone since November, is the development community working on Nokia products is much more mature, ready to exploit future hardware releases, understands Open Source, and not afraid to have their ideas and products modified or enhanced. The market will change, and that change, just as with Linux, will be driven by the consumer. -Denis On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Aniello Del Sorbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been caught by a slashdotter too and the comments we're on the very same tone. I think that what Ari wanted too say is that Nokia and the industry in general is not YET ready to work the way the open source community wants them to. This is understandable. Their point is to make money and they were just doing this. Recently, we, the open source community, showed them that there is some business in our words. And you know, industry has been always as slow in reacting to this matter as fast in reacting to money. I read his wording this way: we want to listen and we are listening and actually even doing steps towards those open source rules. But the community asks too much and too fast. We listen and act. You do the same. It's fair. -- Aniello On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:49 PM, tanguyr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: source: http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/jun2008/gb20080612_288518.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_global+business the killer quote: Jaaksi admitted that concepts like these [DRM, intellectual property rights, SIM locks and subsidised business models]go against the open-source philosophy, but said they were necessary components of the current mobile industry. Why do we need closed vehicles? We do, he said. Some of these things harm the industry but they're here [as things stand]. These are touchy, emotional issues but this dialogue is very much needed. As an industry, we plan to use open-source technologies but we are not yet ready to play by the rules; but this needs to work the other way round too. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- anidel ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
