Re: Decent PIM for the N8x0
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Jonathan Markevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) After that, it would be *nice to have* a few other things, but without them it's still very workable. I have quite a few more suggestions for the calendar but I don't know where to send them either. Ditto! I still can't believe how awkwardly the top line of Calendar is formatted with the names of the days/months/years crushed together on top of each other when there's a lot of free space to expand into. I'd fix it if I had the slightest idea how the UI was put together (Glade?). Of all the bugs or features I've found this seems like the simplest to fix and most glaring error. I have a more general question for Maemo developers-- is there any way short of writing/editing a rc2.d script to automatically start an application upon restart/power on? Without having Calendar started we receive no alarms set within it. It would be amazing if there was some way to integrate the existing (humble but extremely robust) alarm functionality in Maemo with GPE so the alarms would always go off and alarms set in error (like the ones that go off a day after the real alarm) would be more obvious since they could be seen in the Maemo alarm list. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: GPE Google calendar
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:39 PM, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to sync the GPE calendar with Google calendar? Yes and no. As mentioned, Erminig is the thing that will do it. However, there are some problems that I've run into that make it impossible for it to fully sync sometimes. It doesn't seem to handle repeating events well. There are some notes about it but I can't remember exactly what causes it to break. It will simply hang in the middle of a sync, never finishing. I've done some digging but the GData API and the GPE calendar database interface code is fairly complex and I believe the author no longer has time/interest in working on it. It's on my list of things to do since it's so critical to be able to enter appointments on the desktop and have them present on the tablet for alarms and reference. There's a second option: using gpesyncd and opensync but I've not tried it before and I belive it works with the Evolution Email/PIM software instead. Just something to look for when trying to find a way to make it happen. I find it very disappointing that Nokia doesn't seem to care about such basic and important functionality. It adds value and makes the tablet much more than just something that surfs the web 'Ok' and plays music/video fairly well (Canola). They don't seem to recognize that it's as important a requirement for some of us as a touch-screen, Bluetooth, or Wi-fi. If Palm Pilots could do it over ten years ago, somehow we should be able to do it now. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: A2DP audio
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Adam Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I'm in a posting frenzy at the moment (don't worry, I'll go quiet again soon), I'll ask another (probably silly) question, if I may. Has anyone found or got A2DP working with a Bluetooth stereo headset, yet? Yes. It's still got issues with breakups occasionally but kagu supports it if you install mplayer and create a settings file for it (mplayer). You really need to do a search for A2DP on the http://internettablettalk.com forums for the full information on setting it up and what to expect. I ended up getting a Jabra A120S BT A2DP transmitter which is small enough to plug in just about anywhere and isn't too bulky or heavy to hang off the n800. The breakups were just too annoying whereas there are 0 breakups with the transmitter. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Audio connection problem
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 7:21 AM, David Hagood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have found that running the N800 through a ground loop isolator helps immensely - especially if you are charging the device as you use it. The Radio Shack ground loop isolator (RS #270-054) works well for this. Yes, this is key. The n800 will transmit noise via the headphone jack if you are charging at the same time, particularly when charging from something from something that can leak tiny amounts of AC current back to the amplifier. This is pretty much the case every time when charging and connected to a AC-powered amplifier or even a DC amp where you're using 120V inverter or 12V charger connected to the same battery. That's why it's minimized when using a tape adapter; there is very little AC coupling between the tape read head and the tape adapter. Like the ground loop islolator, an audio transformer will do the trick too (You'll need a 1:1 ratio on the windings). Just my 2 cents- Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Audio connection problem
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am very familiar with the ground loop problem, and this is not related to that. Ground loop problems are a result of noise created by other devices, whereas this noise is created by the Nokia itself. It's also a completely different kind of noise - ground loops usually cause a whine (that varies with rpm's in a running vehicle), but this is a swishing white noise that seems to vary with the sound that the Nokia is playing. Also, no other devices, including my standalone mp3 player, exhibit this noise when connected identically. The reason the cassette adapter works is not because of isolation but because of completely different power and impedance characteristics - it's a lot closer to headphones than to a line input. Mark We're obviously talking about different things. Mine only occurs when charging and is a pronounce alternating hum and buzz as the n800 draws current and pauses (Easy to see on a charger w/a LED). It stops the second I remove the charger. To demonstrate my point about the coupling I've connected the n800 to a switch-mode charger connected to batteries: it removes the noise completely. I used the term ground-loop because from the reference of the receiver your input has a ground, particularly if it's hooked to a PC as mine is which has a grounded output. The charger is not grounded and so floats in reference to the receiver except for the AC current induced by the switching of the power supply and current to the n800, coupled via the mains lines going to both the receiver and charger. Hence the noise. It doesn't necessarily fit the classic definition of a ground loop but was the closest thing I could think of. I'm puzzled by your description of low output levels. If anything, with both the speaker volume and the application volume up all the way I have to turn it down a bit to avoid overdriving what I'm connected to. The only thing I can think of is that you're not resetting the device volume to the maximum after plugging something into the headphone jack since that drops the volume automatically a fair bit. I've hooked it to plain amplified speakers, a guitar effects box, a cassette adapter, a Sony receiver, and myriad other devices with and without inline volume controls. I really don't think impedance has anything to do with it; my receiver measures at around 100K ohms for the inputs which is essentially infinite compared to the internal speakers or headphones and works well outside the charger noise. I did have one thought: when you connect it to whatever amplifier you're using have you tried using a 4-conductor audio plug? I believe the tip is powered (with a pull-up resistor) to support the headset microphone and your plug might be partially contacting that, causing noise. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
libgpsbt and libgpsmgr debs/OS2008 2007.51-3
I managed to remove these packages by accident and I'm wondering: are the deb packages available anywhere? I looked around quite a bit but couldn't find anything but older versions for OS2007 and so forth. They seem to be free packages and so I'm puzzled why the binaries wouldn't be available somewhere. Regards, Larry Battraw ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 user unhappy with OS2008 upgrade -- are there others?
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Norman Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally upgraded my N800 to OS2008 about a month ago. I've gotten used to the new look and feel, about which I'm mostly neutral, but otherwise it has been nothing like what I was promised: 1. The RSS reader is no better able to handle a feed with a hundred entries; my favorite feed falls in this class. I don't think the RSS reader will ever be a priority, unfortunately. It's been tagged (as far as I can tell) as a low-importance toy app. That, and there are so many other high profile applications like the browser and they only have so many staff. 2. I get web browser crashes at least once a week. I *never* had a crash under OS2007. True. Some of it can be attributed to the micro browser change from Opera, but it is disappointing since I don't remember as many crashes with microb in OS2007 either. 3. I very frequently get inadvertent 'double-hits' when using the stylus with the touch screen. These were rare events under OS2007. This bug simply must be fixed. It's a major regression over OS2007 and I thought my touch-screen had started to fail due to the glitches, including double-taps when using the hardware buttons. 4. If improvements have been made to the applications themselves (as opposed to the home screen), they are not readily visible to me. Image viewer still chokes on a directory with several hundred images, for example. Overall I think the look is much more polished and appealing, although I rarely use the Applications button and have launcher panel installed for starting my important apps. It seems faster as well (For obvious reasons since the clock speed was increased). I think the improvements outweigh the problems significantly, especially once you get familiar with the new way some things work. 5. OK, one minor complaint about the look and feel: with the new fat menus, even using the stylus, I can only fit a few bookmark entries on the screen at one time. A device like this benefits from a lot of bookmarks, but now screen real estate carries less information and bookmarks are therefore more work to find. I am really disappointed in this upgrade and in Nokia's general decision to keep the applications closed source. The performance of the applications is a continual source of disappointment to me, but without access to the source code it is hard to see how to do better. There should be an option for Classic or the new look as it really can be a handicap if you have tons of things loaded. Either way, things like the launcher panel keep my sanity intact instead of threading through nested folders to get to an application. I am aware of Nokia's reasons for keeping many applications closed although I don't think they are helping themselves that much. It sure slows down clone makers but it also adds up to a slower, less well-tested result. I expect in the end other people will port/create superior applications to replace the built-in ones. I think Nokia is banking on that to add value without cost to the platform. As long as they don't kill the Maemo platform through too-frequent hardware releases that cut out older device users of OS updates the future is bright and I can't wait to see what else comes of it. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Microb-based browser settings come from? (OS2008-latest N800)
I'm having a unusual problem where proxy settings from another defined connection have permanently contaminated the settings written into the prefs.js for the browser. No matter what settings I choose for my current connection it always writes in the proxy settings from a former connection (I deleted it). Normally I don't use a proxy so the connection I've defined has the proxy settings blank and not set to use a proxy. Regardless, these other proxy settings are written into the prefs.js, making it impossible to connect to any sites. I've tried installing privoxy and setting the proxy settings to 127.0.0.1:8118 as you would expect; it does nothing, the old proxy settings from the former connection are written into prefs.js. I've hand-edited prefs.js (without the browser running), and used about:config to manually blank the proxy settings. Using about:config works until I close the browser, whereupon those old proxy settings are written back in. Any clues where the proxy settings are coming from and how to get rid of this behavior? And yes, I did restore from a backup when upgrading to the latest version of the OS. Thanks- Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: starting up.
On Dec 19, 2007 8:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just ordered my first N800, and it should arrive in a few days. I've read this list enough to know that it will do the things I want it to do (and more) once I write a few minor applications for it. I've been programming since the 60's, am a long-time Unix and emacs user, and am currently using Debian on several machines. (I've started writing the crucial minor applications on a Debian system). My questions are: Where do I go to get started as an end-user of the N800? http://www.internettablettalk.com is the definitive resource for general information and questions. Where do I go to get started as a programmer on the N800? What's the recommended UI library? http://maemo.org and there's really only one standard UI library, which is a modified form of GTK called Hildon Software repositories for the N800 seem to be scattered among many sites. Where should I look? Is there an index somewhere? http://www.gronmayer.com/it/index.php?lang=ensystem=maemo4 Is it possible to brick the N800 by flashing with a bad kernel? Or does the N800 have a nonreflashable flasher? No, you can't brick it (AFAIK) with a bad kernel; I've gotten it to a state where the kernel wouldn't boot it but then the flasher utility you use to install updates or rescue yourself can always restore a broken kernel, using the one included in a standard OS image published on maemo.org Is it possible to ruggedize the N800? I've already destroyed several Nokia cell phones and a Palm pilot by letting them drop out of my pocket onto the floor when I bend over. (My Palm is still limping along with gratuitous blobs of orange pixels and uneven backlighting after several falls. Kudos to the manufacturer!) Do not wait, go and buy one of the silicone skins sold for it. They make it very slightly larger and the leg to prop it up will not come out when it's on but it will make it virtually impossible to slide out of your pocket. I got mine off of eBay for around $3.00 plus $4.00 for shipping. Here's an example (I believe this is similar or identical to what I bought): http://cgi.ebay.com/Nokia-800-N800-Silicone-Silicon-Skin-Case-Tube-Black_W0QQitemZ320192302320QQihZ011QQcategoryZ20367QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m118 Have fun, and make sure you install OpenSSH server first thing to make installation of packages and generally mucking around a lot easier! Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Proxy settings
You need to go to the Control Panel/Connectivity and select the Connection button, edit it and click Advanced on the last screen to locate the proxy settings for the built-in applications like the browser. Larry On Dec 1, 2007 8:58 AM, Sascha Feldhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am using a http/https proxy server with authentification in my home net . Does anyone know how to configure my applications (browser, packet manager) on my N800 for the use with the proxy? Using the environment variables http_proxy ? Best regards Sascha p.s.: I already installed xterm and gained root access, if this helps solving the problem. -- Cand. Inform. Sascha Feldhorst Universität Dortmund Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key ID: 0x1E9E26B5 Key @ Keyserver http://subkeys.pgp.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: How is the N800 antenna implemented?
On 7/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know how the antenna in the N800 headphones is implemented? Are they using the ground conductor as the antenna, are they using the two headphone lines as a dipole antenna, or what? Using the ground connector wouldn't really work since I believe it's directly connected to system ground and wouldn't produce a net difference in field strength. When I last checked the ground connector acted as a ground plane and one of the headphone wires served as the actual antenna. It doesn't work that well in practice (in its stock configuration) simply because there's not enough exposed/non-twisted-pair portion of the headphone wire pair to receive a good signal (Only one wire/ground pair acts as the antenna and I can't remember which right now). Once you expose a few inches of the heaphone wire from the ground sheath/pair it works very well as long as you don't go crazy and expose so much antenna that it overloads the RF frontend . There are 2 reasons I ask: first, I'd like to be able to do a calibrated sensitivity check on the FM receiver, which means I need a proper RF interface to inject the signal from my sig-gen on. Secondly, I work in what can best be described as RF hell (as you might deduce by the fact that I have ready access to a calibrated RF sig-gen), and I'd like to be able to couple my external antenna drop into the N800. I wouldn't do that if I were you. Any time you connect something to you and a external (out-door) antenna you're betting against the possibility of a lightning strike, static discharge, accidentally touching something live and becoming the shortest path to ground, or a host of other unpleasant possibilities. Stick with something cheaper and purpose-built for listening to the radio on; you could even go for one with a remote so you don't have to touch it every time you want to adjust the volume or switch stations. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: RTCom - SIP Service
On 7/20/07, Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext Larry Battraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As an aside, has anyone had their Application manager break after trying to to install RTCom? I managed to get RTCom installed manually via apt-get/dpkg but now whenever I run the Application manager the window will appear almost instantly, titled Application manager, and sit forever. That usually means that the backend process does not start up and the frontend is waiting for it to respond. That's quite bad since you basically can't debug the situation without help from the frontend. It's a known bug that has been fixed in more recent versions of the AM. Are these versions available in Sardine or somewhere else? The backend has quite low requirements for a successful startup. Usually, sudo has some problems. Try this as user: $ sudo /usr/libexec/apt-worker apt-worker: wrong invocation If you see the error message wrong invocation from apt-worker, it has been started successfully. Yep, that is exactly what it printed, so no problem with the /etc/sudoers file; I verified that by hand as well. -r--r-1 root root 2316 Jul 19 09:02 /etc/sudoers Doing a strace results in the attached log Thanks for the strace! It was only for maemo-invoker and not for the hildon-application-manager, but I appreciate the effort! :-) Debugging can be a bitch on the maemo platform... :) Sigh :-) I figured it was awfully short for what was getting kicked off. I did a copy of the root FS to the internal SD card to boot from and now it works for whatever reason, regardless of whether I boot from flash or SD. Very strange. I had already tried rebooting before so I'm unsure of what has changed. Thanks- Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: RTCom - SIP Service
As an aside, has anyone had their Application manager break after trying to to install RTCom? I managed to get RTCom installed manually via apt-get/dpkg but now whenever I run the Application manager the window will appear almost instantly, titled Application manager, and sit forever. It can only be killed, has no buttons or menus, and clicking the window X waits a while before reporting it isn't responding and offering to kill it. Doing a strace results in the attached log Thanks- Larry oai.log Description: Binary data ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Status of SyncEvolution and PIM applications
On 7/9/07, Lars Persson Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Thanks very much for all your answers. I'll try to summarize them here to see if I got it all: 1. What are the different PIM solutions available? GPE, Pimlico, Winzig and Opened-hand. 2. What synchronization possibilities are available for them? What is their respective status? Erminig (http://maemo.org/downloads/product/erminig/) syncs GPE with Google Calendar. Erminig is relatively new and has not received a lot of testing (from what I can see). I've used it several times so far and besides the missing proxy support (which would come from one of the underlying components it depends on) it seems to work well. (snip) 4. What is the level of functionality of Erminig and OpenSync, do they sync addresses, todos and calendar items? Two-way, one-way? I could never get OpenSync to work properly without crashing Evolution. Erminig seems to work well, and does a two-way sync, critical for me, as well as supporting multiple calendars. I may end up trying to code in some proxy support because that would be a killer app for me to be able to maintain my schedule in Google Calendar and have a local, synced copy on the n800. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Database Need
Totally agree. On the Zaurus you had Java and it made it easier to bring over some really great programs like HSQLDB and several others I can't recall off-hand. Some of the better ones were amazing and allowed connections to real DBs like PostgreSQL, Oracle, etc. They also allowed for form design on the device to create your own Access-like DB applications which were wonderful. Not having some kind of generalized method for storing structured data in DBs is really a weak point, and Java would fix that quickly due the availability of so many Java DB apps out there. Larry On 6/29/07, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have need for a database (similar to MobileDB would be excellent). I have SQLite3 but am looking for a Hildonized DB, e.g. something I don't have to open a xterm window to use. Any thoughts/ideas? I appreciate any help. Right now I'm using gnumeric for many of my database needs and while it is adequate, it is a poor replacement for a small DB. Thanks! Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: My two applications for the N800
On 6/7/07, David Hautbois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I developed two python applications for the N800 (snip) 2 - Erminig A python application to sync GPE Calendar and Google Calendar. Features : Two ways sync recurrent events an exceptions supported add/modify/delete events Be careful and test this application with test calendars. Bad and good feedbacks are welcome. David. Thanks for such a useful and much-needed application!! It worked well for me-- a first since Google seems to have changed the format GPE understands. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: happy birthday maemo!
On 5/25/07, Ferenc Szekely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, We launched maemo exactly two years ago. Happy birthday! Cheers, ferenc And what better way to celebrate a birthday than with a few presents? New firmware, bluetooth headset support, USB host support; I'm sure there are quite a gifts the community would love to receive (though may not necessarily get). The question is, what can we give to Maemo in return? :-) Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: SDHC 8G support
On 4/8/07, Phillip N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El dom, 25-03-2007 a las 17:40 +0100, Neil MacLeod escribió: http://intr.overt.org/blog/ Hi maemos!.. Finally got my n800 up and running.. wohoo!! i flashed the kernel of OS2007, with this image: http://intr.overt.org/n800-sdhc-kernel/sdhc-kernel-3.2007.10.bin and now the SDHC 8G Sandisk UltraII stick is recognized.. but look: /dev/mmcblk1p13.8G 84.8M 3.7G 2% /media/mmc1 its showing just 4G. Well.. you can see i have only 89MB in it, but soon i will move part of my music collection there.. so, i would deifnitly apreceate to use thouse extra 4G memory.. Have anyone got 8G running? I do, as well as several others. Once your n800 recognizes your SDHC card you're ready to go-- almost :-) You need to format the card and only a PC (Windows/Linux/whatever) can do it right since the format utility on the n800 will only format it to 4GB. Connect your n800 to a PC and format the card this way or just use a card reader connected to a PC. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: kind of off-topic, but not completely: some questions about the N800
On 4/2/07, andrei raevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear friends, I have just acquired the N800 and I love it. I do have a number of questions about it which are not really maemo-related, but since this list is one of well-informed N770/N800 users I thought I might at well ask here. First off, you might want to flash the the latest version of the firmware (v3.2007.10-7) as I can pretty much guarantee you don't have it. It will likely help with potential problems that crop up. You can get the windows install here: http://europe.nokia.com/A4305010 1) Xterm: I have installed xterm and even got myself a root password (using dropbear ssh). However, this is no the Bash shell I am used to and the commands do not have man or info pages. Where can I find some documentation on this shell's usage? And one small thing: show do I scroll up numerous pages (like to examine the contents of a 'netstat' command)? BTW - when I do netstat|less I get a warning that this terminal is not fully functional. Any ideas as to what that means? Not really anything to worry about, and you might want to try more. 2) Batteries: Nokia's documentation says that once the batteries are charged the unit should be disconnected (same thing for my Nokia phone, BTW). So does that mean that overnight recharge is not an option? Can/should I run the unit without a battery inside when/if I can? The battery life of the unit (and of my Nokia phone) is, alas, rather short. Has anyone tried purchasing a non-Nokia battery for cheaper and possibly with a longer battery life? The notice about disconnecting is from an older era in batteries and is no longer applicable. You can't run without a battery inside. It's really just gambling with your tablet to use non-Nokia batteries; some do it with success but it seems like battery life is not as much as you'd expect. 3) I have installed mplayer. Both the original media player and mplayer tend to make the unit freeze (with the sound track still running) has anyone come up with a solution for this Make sure you have the latest mplayer and firmware installed and it should work; make sure the resolution of the video and bitrate is low enough. See http://www.internettablettalk.com and search for mplayer for lengthy discussions on this. 4) I have installed a lot of small files on the internal 2GB card and ever since see the unit doing refreshing very often and for a long while. Is there any way to make this better. You can disable metalayer-crawler0 but as mentioned, the later firmware may help. 5) on bootup I notice (with a CPU monitoring applet) that the CPU is working at full blast. I did a top in xterm to see who was taking so much CPU power and I found out that the culprit is 'metalayer-c'. Any idea of who that is and why this happens? See #4 6) has anyone succeeded in installing a firewall on the N800? I could, of course, write a small script for iptables but its just not convenient to access the root account with ssh each time then run the ipables script. Any better ideas? There's no need for a firewall since there are no ports open to exploit. Windows machines need firewalls, not Linux tablets :-) 7) is there a car charger for the N800? It's possible to use a car charger intended for a Nokia phone with the same (small) power tip as opposed to the older 3.5mm size. It's also possible to purchase an adapter to convert the larger tip to the smaller type used by the n800. Ok. that's about it. Sorry for the non-maemo linked questions many thanks for any pointers, Andrei No problem. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Javascript inconsistencies in Opera after firmware
On 3/26/07, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 07:44:14AM -0600, Tim wrote: Arg. I found it. :-/ (It must have been really late when I check ed the last time!) But, it is enabled and I'm still having the issues (and, as I said, I wasn't before the firmware upgrade). If you have a second to check http://tim.samoff.com in Minimo and in Opera, you'll see what I'm talking about. I don't know what your Javascript is supposed to do. If you mean the nice sliding effects when you click on Categories/Archives, then Opera on my N800 does that (OS2007.3). Marius Gedminas -- Go not unto the Usenet for advice, for you will be told both yea and nay (and quite a few things that just have nothing at all to do with the question). ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: python on v3
On 3/24/07, Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am unable to install python runtime (2.5) on my n800 which makes it impossible to get gpodder going. Anyone else have any luck? I had no problems (I did it from the command line), although I discovered gpodder ignores the download path given. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: python on v3
Try: apt-get install python2.5-hildon gpodder You'll need to do it as root of course. That should pull down the python runtime and everything needed for gpodder itself. I've included my over-sized /etc/apt/sources.list as well in case you need part of it for reference. Larry #maemo:name Maemo Repo deb http://repository.maemo.org bora free non-free #maemo:name Maemo Mapper deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras bora free non-free #maemo:name GPE Repo #deb http://downloads.kernelconcepts.de/maemo3 bora free #maemo:name FBReader deb http://only.mawhrin.net/fbreader/maemo/ mistral user #maemo:name RC Script Plugin deb http://tuomas.kulve.fi/debian bora maemo #maemo:name Maemo Hackers deb http://maemo-hackers.org/apt bora main #maemo:name Abiword deb http://www.abisource.com/downloads/apt mistral user #maemo:name Canola deb http://openbossa.indt.org/canola/repository-beta2/bora bora user #maemo:name Dates deb http://maemo.o-hand.com/packages bora/ #maemo:name Minimo deb http://home.ufam.edu.br/~agan/minimo/ bora user On 3/24/07, Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the command? I'll give that a whirl... Thanks, JG On 3/24/07, Larry Battraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/24/07, Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am unable to install python runtime (2.5) on my n800 which makes it impossible to get gpodder going. Anyone else have any luck? I had no problems (I did it from the command line), although I discovered gpodder ignores the download path given. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [ANN] Simple Launcher -- Home applet to launch your apps
On 3/23/07, Mikhail Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Yesterday I made the first public release of simple-launcher. It's a home applet that shows icons of often used applications: you click and the application starts :) [Some] known limitations (that's why it's 0.9 :)): * there's no infobanner when the application is started * if the application is already started, it's not brought up (for the user it looks like nothing happened) The package is available at http://simple-launcher.garage.maemo.org VERY nice! I hate having to open the menu, go to extras, and _then_ scroll through everything I have installed. Having launchable icons on the desktop should have been present from day one. It's something everyone understands-- click the icon and voila! The program starts. It's great in moderation, and having your launcher is perfect; I was even more excited to see you could put multiple programs in there, having assumed it was for a single one. Most of the home applets are so simplistic my expectations were low I suppose. My only feature request is for a default icon for programs like minimo that don't provide one. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Does a full size (desktop) Bluetooth keyboard work with N800?
On 3/19/07, Tom Karches [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone tried using a full size keyboard with the N800? Like this Dell one (I don't care about the mouse...) : http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=usl=ens=bsdcs=04sku=310-8142 --tom As long as it's a ordinary BT keyboard without a special driver it will work. I have a Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop BT keyboard that works great and tickles me to no end to use with a Linux device :-) Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: First release of maemo port of Claws Mail
Has anyone had luck using POP3 for gmail with this client? I always get a connection error. Larry On 3/16/07, Jean-Luc Biord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Claws Mail, (formerly known as Sylpheed-Claws), is a GTK+-based e-mail client and news client for Linux, forked from Sylpheed in April 2001. It was initially the bleeding-edge testbed for new Sylpheed features, but evolved enough to now be a completely separate program. (snip) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 and USB host mode
On 3/5/07, Michael Wiktowy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/5/07, Larry Battraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that better support may be forthcoming, but that would be part of a new kernel or a back-port of the fixes. The Nokia folks seem to be strangely silent on the whole USB host thing. Maybe they are not wanting to implicate themselves in a power injection hack that could damage your tablet. That would explain why they took out the vital bits from the kernel. I didn't see USB host support on the roadmap so I don't hold out much hope for the fixing of what I would consider a major regression of the N800 functionality vs. the 770. Nokia has surprised us with bigger easter eggs though. I would appreciate some clarification from Nokia whether this functionality will return or if it was removed intentionally. /Mike There was never a removal of the functionality since this is a new chipset and support for it was not available for it (AFAIK) in the kernel until recently. I tried it out and it's pretty rough in (the current kernel version) 2.6.18; it would crash very quickly after booting up and I couldn't get it to actually do anything as far as host-mode is concerned. So no conspiracy, just no working code :-) I expect as support firms up we'll see it made available on the n800, particularly if people are interested enough to help out. A roadmap/wishlist for changes to the platform is being created so this would definitely be a candidate for the list. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Bluetooth mouse.
On 3/5/07, Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try -mouse ps2,/dev/input/mice. Of course, you still won't get a cursor. (OS2007 can find a mouse just fine, in theory, if you tell it to. OS2006 can't.) Cheers, Daniel Thanks for the tip. I've compiled xsetroot so I just use the cursor_name to set one. The options you've given don't seem to work so I guess there's more to it. I've verified /dev/input/mice is receiving mouse data. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 and USB host mode
I believe what you're looking for is here: http://test.maemo.org/community/roadmap.html There's a _huge_ list of wishes for improvements elsewhere, but the roadmap is closer to reality in terms of what might be implemented. I believe the plan is to flesh it out as far as who's running any particular project, whether they're Nokia or not, current status, etc. Searching the dev list for roadmap will get you the details. Larry On 3/6/07, Michael Wiktowy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/6/07, Larry Battraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was never a removal of the functionality since this is a new chipset and support for it was not available for it (AFAIK) in the kernel until recently. I tried it out and it's pretty rough in (the current kernel version) 2.6.18; it would crash very quickly after booting up and I couldn't get it to actually do anything as far as host-mode is concerned. So no conspiracy, just no working code :-) I expect as support firms up we'll see it made available on the n800, particularly if people are interested enough to help out. A roadmap/wishlist for changes to the platform is being created so this would definitely be a candidate for the list. That makes complete sense, thanks for the info. I did notice another related thread after I posted this giving me some hope. The absence of facts invites speculation. I wasn't speculating that there was a great Nokia conspiracy to deny us USB-hosting. I was speculating that one of the reasons could have been legitimate aversion to liability. One thing that should go on this wishlist is a link from every item to a separate page where there are reasons why a particular wishlist item isn't implemented yet and specific requests for community help. I think there is a lot of FOSS people not knowing what Nokia is already doing in-house and not knowing what to sink their teeth into that will end up being made redundant before they are done. A little note for each item saying something like Nokia internal is not working on this currently or this work is being done upstream at this URL or this work is waiting on x project to get their act in gear and support function y. I saw this new roadmap at one point but lost the link to it (the old Maemo roadmap link is horribly outdated). Can someone point the way to me? /Mike ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 and USB host mode
On 3/5/07, Paul Klapperich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/5/07, Jeff G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just run flasher to see its options and your question is answered ;-) i think it was --enable-usb-host or something like that Can you do that (turn on USB-Host mode) without re-flashing the device? Yes. You use the flasher utility, but you can set flags (host mode, dev mode, etc) without uploading a new firmware. Just don't include the switches for the firmware upload when you use the other options. Just a reminder that as of now USB host mode is still not functional. From what I've heard the support is disabled in the kernel, likely because it's not mature enough to enable. I understand that better support may be forthcoming, but that would be part of a new kernel or a back-port of the fixes. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] suggestion for next Nokia tablet
On 2/12/07, Paul Klapperich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Handspring Visors used to have scrollwheels way back before Palm bought them back up. That was at or before Blackberrys were gaining traction. Handera Palm OS products had them, too, I think. --Paul I believe you're thinking of the Sony Palm handhelds, although I believe you're correct about the Handera verions. I owned one of the original Handspring Visors and it had exactly the same number of buttons as a Palm and no scroll wheel. I owned a Sony T415 (Palm OS) which had a scroll-wheel as well as the dubious distinction of having the worst-designed buttons of any device I've owned, bar none. They were _extremely_ small, with narrow ridges projecting upward that were supposed to look cool. The up/down toggle switch was so narrow you had to grab it with a fingernail to reliably move it. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: Two power management settings
On 2/12/07, Neil MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Larry Battraw wrote: Any battery/cell [1] can be overcharged, particularly Lithiums as they cannot tolerate overcharge without potentially dire consequences. I thought Lithium cells came with protection circuits to prevent over charging? It depends ;-) I've purchased bare 18650 lithium cells without protection circuits, and I know laptop batteries generally have circuits, no idea about the BP-5Ls the Nokia tablets use. When I was talking about lithium cells not being able to tolerate overcharge I was talking about the bare cells themselves-- not as part of a finished assembly like the BP-5L. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: Two power management settings
On 2/11/07, Neil MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil MacLeod wrote: I also don't think it's possible to overcharge Li-Ion batteries these days (unless they're made by Sony). :) Oops, the BP-5L battery in the N800/770 is a Lithium Polymer design - I'm fairly confident these also can't be overcharged but not 100% sure... Any battery/cell [1] can be overcharged, particularly Lithiums as they cannot tolerate overcharge without potentially dire consequences. Obviously the cell must be correctly made so it accepts the proper amount of charge without destroying itself (amid other things), as was the case with the Sony batteries. The charger must precisely charge it to the correct voltage and then completely cease charging; self-discharge is negligible and there is no need (and no tolerance) for trickle charging like Nickel-based cells. So no, it doesn't trickle charge, and to the best of my knowledge it runs completely off of AC during charging as well as when the cell is completely charged. Trying to charge the cell and draw power from it at the same time would complicate things quite a bit since the voltage would be fluctuating rapidly as it charged and the device drew power at different levels. Larry 1. A battery is comprised of more than one cell ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] N800 doesn't charge that well
On 2/9/07, Kahlil Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a N770 and an N800, I have had issues where I leave the N800 charging with the N770 cable and it doesnt charge at all. It doesnt loose power but it doesnt increase it either. When I plug it in, I am able to see the charging icon but when I unplug it, I see that the bars are still on the same position. Anyone has been in this situation? I haven't personally seen it-- I use both chargers interchangeably, but I've heard of one person that couldn't use the 770 charger with their n800 at all. To the best of my knowledge the chargers are identical so I'm not sure why this should be the case unless there was something wrong with the charger. If you plug in your n800 to the n800 charger does it proceed to charge normally if you switch chargers after seeing this behavior? Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Two power management settings (was: FM Radio - suggestions)
On 2/10/07, Neil MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon Smirl wrote: Is the N800 smart enough to know when it is on AC and not blank the display? The N770 didn't appear to have this feature. The clock could be set as a screen saver when on AC power. I think it's a mistake that there is only one set of power management timeouts - there should be separate timeouts for battery and AC power. With two power management settings you would specify much longer dim and blanking screen timeout values (perhaps even infinite) when the device is on AC power, but specify short values (perhaps 2 and 5 minutes) when on battery power. The 770/n800 both know perfectly well when they're on AC or being charged. Having different behaviors would make sense; the Zaurus SL series did this. I'm guessing it's mostly a situation where there are too many things to work on and too few hands to work on it! :-) Anyway, if it's important enough perhaps someone should submit a RFE; I'm less concerned about it than system bugs and USB host, for example. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] RSS News Reader application only shows a few articles
On 2/2/07, Paul Klapperich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that if you open a feed that all of the items are marked as read unless you tick the save for later, even if you don't scroll the whole thing. On the next refresh, all read items are not displayed. Very annoying design choice. --Paul Agreed. At the minimum there should be an option for how many articles to keep in view at any time. Set it for 20 and next time it refreshes if there are 3 new articles it will show them + 17 old articles. Currently it's a joke if your refresh interval is very often, especially if there are few articles being posted. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: Charge from a USB port.
On 2/1/07, Simon Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No we just chopped the end off the nokia charger and soldered to a USB lead. I was unable to source the correct size power plug from Maplin or anywhere else it is smaller than the smallest hence the chopping off. Regards Simon Does this actually work? The 770/n800 need current-limited power, and I would think the direct USB connection would feed it too much current. Too much current and the 770 will refuse to charge or possibly damage it. I bought a USB phone charger adapter and soldered a nokia phone plug onto it. The USB phone adapter boosts the voltage to 6 volts and limits the current as well. It looks very similar to the Nokia one except it has a female USB plug on the other side (to plug phone adapter plugs into). Works pretty well but doesn't seem to charge as fast as the standard AC adapter the 770/n800 ships with. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800: virtual memory
Sorry, my mistake. It's actually xD (and SmartMedia), not microSD. Larry On 1/29/07, Gopi Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 29, 2007, at 8:54 PM, Larry Battraw wrote: spares. The only cards I know of that don't are microSD (TransFlash), and SmartMedia. In those cases software or the chipset for the interface may need to take care of it. Are you certain about that? Can't you get cheap little microSD to SD adaptors? I thought the point of microSD and miniSD was that they used the same interface as SD, letting you add them without any real extra effort. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] SDHC - 4BG?
On 1/29/07, Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have to do anything special for the 4GB cards to work? There's a radioshack within striking distance and they have Sandisk cards in stock... :) I might suggest visiting newegg.com before making any decisions. Last I checked they had several SD (not SDHC) 4GB cards for around $50. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800: virtual memory
On 1/29/07, Danny Milosavljevic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:06:42 -0500, Larry Battraw wrote: From my limited experience, VM helps when you're opening several applications/windows, particularly web pages. Without out it things may start disappearing when you run low on memory as you might expect. It's definitely much better than the 770 without VM, but I don't see a reason to avoid VM in the first place. How good is wear leveling on the SD cards? Does it pose a problem when using it for swap? (after all, the swap would be on a limited, fixed are of the card, and would be updated rather often) SD and CF cards all do automatic wear-leveling, regardless of what files are being used for any particular logical sectors of the card. It's invisible from the OS level and is somewhat similar to the way that hard drives transparently remap bad sectors from a reserve of spares. The only cards I know of that don't are microSD (TransFlash), and SmartMedia. In those cases software or the chipset for the interface may need to take care of it. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] JAVA for the 770
On 1/26/07, sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Wahlau: (snip) So you run your pre-installed browser (that is an Opera version), and go to the maps.google.com webpage. You don't need to install anything. If you wait a few seconds for the webpage to download, you'll see the typical map view and even satellite or hybrid view if you like. I think we may have a misunderstanding here. Google Maps is based on JavaScript --no relation to Java-- and works without a JVM. I have a 770 that has been freshly flashed which shows Google Maps just fine. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: brightness Re: [maemo-users] Re: Storage/Sleep Issues..
On 1/25/07, Andrew Flegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/25/07, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here we are really talking of being able to charge the battery outside its safety ranges. Given the right knowlege it is possible cause do phisical damage to the device and the user. No, we're talking about finding out how much the battery is being used. This is obviously of benefit to end users without accurate multimeters. On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 13:08 +0100, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: I meant way to get discharge current from battery circuit to know what is actual consumption of the device and how big is the influence of various parts. End-users being able to know if something's (albeit not exactly what) is driving the battery consumption through the roof would be of immeasurable benefit, especially since the N800 is pushed as an always on device. Something like a CPU meter but for wattage consumed at any given point would be great. Even just the raw battery voltage would be nice, although having the estimate on battery life is at least an improvement in IT2007. As an aside, you need a fairly sophisticated meter to measure the current-- it's not like you can pick up a $30 meter and expect to get good readings. The 770 and n800 consume current in large bursts and if the internal resistance of the meter is too high (i.e. when set to read mA) the device won't run. I had to use a 4-wire ratio-resistance method with a resistor (piece of thin wire actually) around 50/1000 of a ohm, hooked to a desktop 6.5 digit DVM. If anyone has some tests for power consumption they needd I can run them, within limits of course. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] gcc compiler suite, linker, and make for ARM on ITOS2006
On 1/23/07, Paule Ecimovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Larry Thanks for this link to the Maemo 2.1 SDK. This is full of useful programming examples, although I am looking for gcc to run from the Nokia 770 itself from within an osso-xterm in order to be able to compile, link, and run programs right from and on the device, just like on a desktop linux box. I would like to skip the external linux box though. Cheers, Oops, my mistake! However, with the SDK it's relatively straightforward to build an ARM executable of gcc, the binutils, and glibc. That said, it's very time-consuming and may be a bit confusing for someone else who hasn't done it before. It looks like there's a native build of the toolchain here, so you may want to check it out: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/working-native-eabi-toolchain Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Anyone tested bluetooth Frogpad yet?
On 1/17/07, Andrew Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 17, 2007, at 11:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone tested bluetooth Frogpad yet? I am a right-hander that picked up a left-hand frogpad for the purpose of being able to use a mouse, or pen in my right hand while using the frogpad in the left. It works really well, though I am still getting up to a decent typing speed on the Frogpad. I even use the FrogPad on both my Nokia 770 and my 6600 mobile. Andrew What kind of learning curve did you experience? I'm looking at getting one and wanted to make sure it was usable with a little effort. After x months of using it what are you up to in terms of WPM? Thanks- Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Storage/Sleep Issues..
On 1/19/07, John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, How does one sleep the N800 or is it required? I have been just stuffing it in the sleeve, but sometimes it comes back out lit up. I wonder if I am using battery that I could save. Try hitting the power button and selecting lock touch screen and keys. Otherwise it's definitely going to turn the screen on every time it's bumped. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Bluetooth keyboard
On 10/12/06, Willie McKemie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the response! First off, you'll need to pair it with the 770. My MS keyboard has a small, recessed button that initiates pairing. It won't be visible Is that the key in the upper right, labeled Sleep? That one gives me no satisfaction. Perhaps I should have been more specific. The button is on the bottom (underside) of the keyboard and is labeled Connect Channel. It's closest to the F Lock key, but on the other side as mentioned. How does one tell when the keyboard batteries are exhausted? I have found no power on switch or indicator. The only way I've been able to tell is when it stops sending data and you might be able to scan for it but not able to pair with it. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] USB Flash Drive
What you're seeing is symptomatic of having switched the 770 to host mode via the echo host /sys/devices/platform/tahvo-usb/otg_mode method. I have never gotten my 770 to work as a host this way, and it's sad that this is actually given as an alternative to using the flasher program because it doesn't seem to work. At one point I had my 770 set to host mode (via the flasher method) and had modified one of the init scripts to set it back to slave mode via echo slave /sys/devices/platform/tahvo-usb/otg_mode. After that echo host /sys/devices/platform/tahvo-usb/otg_mode would make it switch back to host mode successfully, allowing it to be done on-the-fly. Not sure why doing it from the default slave mode doesn't work. Once you have host mode working you'll see info about your USB drive appear and a device created (Usually /dev/sda1) that you can mount. Larry On 9/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been able to switch the 770 usb to host mode and then I connected a usb flash drive to the usb port of the 770. I am injecting the required 5v to the flash drive and the 770. I see the following messages in dmesg: [68094.508758] USB cable connected [68095.097320] g_file_storage gadget: File-backed Storage Gadget, version: 20 October 2004 [68095.097412] g_file_storage gadget: Number of LUNs=1 [68095.097503] g_file_storage gadget-lun0: ro=0, file: /dev/mmcblk0 What do I need to do to actually mount the external flash drive? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-developers] RE: [maemo-users] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?
On 8/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Thanks for your feature proposals for Maemo Desktop so far. I'll be collecting them next week, so please keep posting them over the weekend. Hi Karoliina, I would really enjoy seeing (As others have described) to be able to have an arbitrary number of icons for the task bar and status bar, perhaps with arrows to scroll through them. Ditto on the idea to have icons on the desktop/home screen to start applications. First-class support for keyboards is important so that it's not something that mostly works and is an afterthought. Things like the ability to set the key repeat rate and a icon indicating a keyboard is detected on the status bus, etc. Finally, it would be great to have a context menu for application icons (that are running) on the taskbar to minimize, restore, go full-screen, and close. Thanks, Larry Battraw ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Check battery level
Somebody knows how to do it but a message or attachment is missing:
[maemo-users] Check battery level
carles.bruguera carles.bruguera at guifi.net
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Thanks!
That's what i was searching.
have you tried to check value just in the moment the visual indicator
changes from 4 bars to 3, 3 to 2 and so on, to check the teoretical
75,50, and 25 % ob the battery?
Maybe with a litttle bit of patience i'll do it :)
En/na Matan Ziv-Av ha escrit:
You can read the raw analog battery level by running the attached
program (value returned in HEX):
./retu-adc 2 3
How to reasonably convert the value to percents is still an open
question. I use the followin function:
int batt_raw_to_pc( int r) {
/* Linear, for now */
if(r=550) return 100;
if(r=500) return (r+450)/10;
if(r300) return 0;
return (r-300)*96/200;
}
On 8/18/06, Ian Malcom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I've been trying to figure out the battery power level
programmatically for weeks now :( Would it be possible
for someone to post the source of the program that
does this?
Thanks a lot!!
Ian
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Re: [maemo-users] Re: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?
On 8/18/06, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 08:15:12PM +0300, Igor Stoppa wrote: Done already, check the power management and drivers code. Next? Cool! By the way, I remember hearing somewhere that in OS2005 if you had the audio player open and paused, the device would not enter into a full power savings mode and would drain the battery faster. Is this fixed in OS2006? Marius Gedminas I can't say authoritatively if it is, but my experience is that it has been partially fixed. Before if you even had the audio player open it would drain your battery. Now you can leave it open without problems, but you must not leave it paused to avoid battery drain. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Fwd: [maemo-users] Problems with audio-playback since IT2006 update
I notice the skips tend to be right after launching the player and starting playback of a large playlist. They coincide with the reading of all files in the playlist for length which maxes out the CPU until all the files are read. Ditto on the bizarre attempts to connect to the network when a playlist file is missing. Very annoying if you've moved things and the entire playlist is composed of missing files since regardless of being in online/offline mode you'll get dialog boxes and errors. Larry On 8/15/06, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 06:55:36PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I updated to IT2006 audio playback is often very distorted. It happens from time to time, sometimes it goes away, sometimes I have to turn the device on/off to make it working again. It sounds more or less like MP3 at very low quality modes (32kbps or so). Has anybody else seen this behaviour, and has already a bug report filed? However I can confirm your experiences with mp3 playback (also streams). It often occurs when the n770 is under heavy io-load. The skips are annoying. I haven't heard anything as weird as Clement described, but I get skips. OS2005: no skips. OS2006: same set of mp3 files on the MMC card, I get skips. The CPU seems to be 100% used during audio play (according to the oss-statusbar-cpu graph), don't know for, but it probably causes those skips. Another funny thing with the audio player: if you remove a file from the filesystem, but leave it in the playlist, the audio player will try to connect to the Internet. Marius Gedminas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] gnumeric for ITOS2006 huge size
Well, it is a first release and by nature isn't optimized. I'm sure it will slim down a bit given time. FYI the actual resident size on the 770 is about 12M, not 30 as the installer indicates. Larry On 8/8/06, Armin M. Warda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, gnumeric for ITOS2006 requires - 9MB download size - 30MB space on the N770 any chance to reduce these huge requirement? regards, Armin. -- --- May the Source be with you! Linux. --- --- secure eMail: http://www.gnupg.de/ --- --- My Homepage http://armin-warda.de/ --- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] 2G mmc with 2006
A patch for the problem has already been created. I would be a little surprised if the patch wasn't included in the final IT2006 release kernel. The beta release definitely did not have the patch so it was necessary to download and flash the updated kernel image. Larry On 6/30/06, George Farris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-30-06 at 23:10 +0300, Marius Gedminas wrote: On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 01:07:20PM -0700, George Farris wrote: Nokia published the final release of the 2006 Software Edition. The image is available at http://maemo.org/downloads/nokia_770 . Cool. Anyone tried a 2G mmc card with 2006 yet?If so does it work? Someone on www.internettablettalk.com forums mentioned that it doesn't: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=17106postcount=10Oh man that's a real piss off if it can't handle large cards.I was really hoping this would be solved, lets hope there is an update coming...Nokia, comments? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] 2006beta: invisible emails
Is there a location that the patched kernel image can be downloaded from? I've noticed frequent reboots when accessing heavy web pages (Specifically gizmodo.com) and would like to see if it helps. LarryOn 6/28/06, Kimmo Hämäläinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 10:02, ext Laurent MARTIN wrote:... After all I found that this beta is definitely... a beta! maybe too buggy for a normal user. My Nokia freezes and reboots more than 5 times per hour when browsing the web or reading emails. This maybe due to something wrong with my configuration or swap on my MMC: I'll investigate...Probably it's the swap in MMC. We discovered a bug in the kernel concerning accessing the MMC and I think the bug is still in the betaimage.BR, Kimmo Laurent. https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] usb-storage.ko for the Nokia
On 4/11/06, Bob Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would echo David's original question, is there any reason why the OTG mode could not be used to switch from master to slave mode, driven from a command or voltage sensing on the 770. After all as has been noted elsewhere the 770 needs 5volts supply fed to it when in master mode so something in the 770 is already sensing this. Or put another way why do we have to use flasher to switch USB modes? Actually the flasher will force USB host mode all the time, but it's not necessary. Obviously USB slave mode is the default, but it's a matter of a single command to make it switch to host mode (until the next reboot). I created a script that runs every reboot to switch it into host mode, as it's easier to edit the script on the fly than reflash when I need slave mode. As I believe has been mentioned elsewhere, you run the command echo host /sys/devices/platform/tahvo-usb/otg_mode (as root) in the terminal or a shell script to switch to host mode. Maybe it will make it into the BT keyboard plugin someday, since everything else seems to be relocating there :-) Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
