Re: dual boot with 2007 from device and 2008 from MMC - possible?
Hi, just to confirm what i understood: as long as i re-flash the OS back to flash, the OS2007/2008 on the device will still work (for example, wifi and etc)? do i need to also redo the boot menu part, since i would need to get OS2007 back with MMC boot OS2007... thank you regards, wahlau On 29/11/2007, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 10:29 +0100, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: > > Austin Che wrote: > > > > > > I actually had been looking at back-porting kexec into the 2.6.18 > > > kernel. > > > > Might be worth trying too, see below > > > > > But I just recompiled 2.6.21 with kexec on and patched > > > kexec-tools with arm patches and it does not work for me (the > > > screen just goes blank and eventually the whole device > > > reboots). kexec seems to be really quite simple (code-wise) and so > > > I can't imagine it being that difficult to figure out for someone > > > with a clue about omap. > > > > I would expect at least two problems: > > > > - passing right data (set of tagged structures) that comes from > > bootloader to new kernel, these are at specific physical address at boot > > time of first kernel but I think they get freed and overwritten later. > > > > - setting hardware back to some harmless state so new kernel can > > initialize it again properly. This could be quite tricky for OMAP. Best > > for this it to kexec new kernel as early as possible before full system > > boot initializes dsp, audio, wlan, bt, camera ... Maybe even some stub > > kernel with everything uneeded stripped off could improve chances. > > > > As for booting 2.6.18 from 2.6.21 one problem may be advanced frequency > > and voltage scaling which is not present in 2.6.18. Might be worth > > trying to force CPU clock to 333 (which will hopefully set also other > > clocks and paremeters correctly) before kexec-ing older kernel so 2.6.18 > > won't be surprised too much. > > The frequency scaling is enabled only after the kernel has booted, the > default OP is 330MHz, so that shouldn't come in the way. > > But I wonder if chrooting wouldn't be better: then one could for example > run OS2008 from OneNAND and OS2007 from MMC simultaneously and have only > those apps that are not available yet for OS2008 to run in the chrooted > environment and access the screen simultaneously through X. > > This is just a thought I had right now, so I don't know how feasible it > would be, but might be simpler to try. > > > -- > Cheers, Igor > > Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > (Nokia Multimedia - CP - OSSO / Helsinki, Finland) > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
Hi, glad to hear that. And its speed is considered as still ok. When the GUI part is done, i expect some can also start porting java software over. enjoy. regards, wahlau On 07/11/2007, Peter Flynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Flynn wrote: > > Wahlau - wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >>>> have you tried Jalimo? > > > > I'll give it a try, thanks. > > OK, I take it back. This does the job really nicely. Kudos to Jalimo. > > Running Saxon on large DocBook documents to generate LaTeX is a very > nontrivial piece of XSLT, and Jalimo didn't drop a bit. > > ///Peter > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
Hi, then jalimo packages and even thisi PhoneMeAdvance package will do what you want. try it out... might be worth your time. regards, wahlau On 05/11/2007, Peter Flynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frantisek Dufka wrote: > > Peter Flynn wrote: > >> Wahlau - wrote: > >>> Hi PEter, > >>> > >>> have you tried Jalimo? I've got something running (CLI) when i last > >>> tried it... > >> > >> That looks a bit off-to-the-side with rather too many bells and > >> whistles. They appear to be pursuing the development of "Java-like" > >> GUI packages, whereas all I want is a plain commandline JRE. There was > >> one for the Zaurus, which is an ARM chip, so it can't be impossible. > >> > > > > Not sure if it was already suggested but you may also check this > > http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Mobileandembedded/PhoneMEAdvancedPlatformsNokia800 > > Again it looks interesting, but what I'm looking for seems to be a plain > vanilla copy of Java ME for the N800. No GUI, no embedded bells and > whistles. I want to be able to type java -jar something.jar at the > commandline and have it executed. > > Has anyone compiled Jave ME for the N800, does anyone know? > > ///Peter > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
Hi, > > have you tried Jalimo? I've got something running (CLI) when i last tried > > it... > > That looks a bit off-to-the-side with rather too many bells and > whistles. They appear to be pursuing the development of "Java-like" GUI > packages, whereas all I want is a plain commandline JRE. There was one > for the Zaurus, which is an ARM chip, so it can't be impossible. then jalimo can do it. i tried it via command line and stuffs that works for us on desktop ran well on N800 too. regards, wahlau ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
Hi PEter, have you tried Jalimo? I've got something running (CLI) when i last tried it... regards, wahlau. On 31/10/2007, Peter Flynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fred Chittenden wrote: > > > My n800 has almost replaced my laptop. > > I'd be set to go that far...if I can find a Java that runs on the N800. > I need to run Saxon, which requires a JRE. > > ///Peter > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: a2dp not working, any help appreciated
Hi again, i notice one thing - did you use the normal Mplayer, or the one Jesse's compiled from http://www.guardiani.us/ ? Only the one he linked to will let you experience a2dp on n800. Btw, check out Kagu media player he wrote. it is good. regards, wahlau On 07/08/07, Wahlau - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > you should see a2dpd telling you what went wrong, if you have followed > the instructions given in Jesse's site. I did mine and i got the n800 > working with my SE HBH DS970 headset. > > all the best. > > regards, > wahlau > > On 06/08/07, Simon Pickering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> alsa-lib: pcm.c:2099:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM a2dpd2 > > >> alsa-init: playback open error: No such file or directory > > >> Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound. > > >> Audio: no sound > > >> Video: no video > > >> > > > You'll get this error when a2dpd isn't running. > > > > > >> Nokia-N800-26:/root$ a2dpd > > >> A2DPD[09:53:11.715]: avrcp_new: Listening for AVRCP on socket 9 > > >> A2DPD[09:53:11.717]: avrcp_new: 0x6c428 > > >> > > >> Is this expected behaviour? > > > > > > Looks OK. > > > > > > So, all you need to do is start a2dpd then, in a second seperate > > > xterm session start mplayer and audio should stream to your headset. > > > If you want to use only a sigle xterm session, start a2dpd as "a2dpd > > > &" then start mplayer. > > > > > > > Ah, that's the problem though, a2dpd was running when I tried mplayer > > (I tested over ssh with two separate terminals). > > > > Any other ideas? > > > > > > Simon > > ___ > > maemo-users mailing list > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > > > -- > = : : : --- > normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- : : : == > -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: a2dp not working, any help appreciated
Hi, you should see a2dpd telling you what went wrong, if you have followed the instructions given in Jesse's site. I did mine and i got the n800 working with my SE HBH DS970 headset. all the best. regards, wahlau On 06/08/07, Simon Pickering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> alsa-lib: pcm.c:2099:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM a2dpd2 > >> alsa-init: playback open error: No such file or directory > >> Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound. > >> Audio: no sound > >> Video: no video > >> > > You'll get this error when a2dpd isn't running. > > > >> Nokia-N800-26:/root$ a2dpd > >> A2DPD[09:53:11.715]: avrcp_new: Listening for AVRCP on socket 9 > >> A2DPD[09:53:11.717]: avrcp_new: 0x6c428 > >> > >> Is this expected behaviour? > > > > Looks OK. > > > > So, all you need to do is start a2dpd then, in a second seperate > > xterm session start mplayer and audio should stream to your headset. > > If you want to use only a sigle xterm session, start a2dpd as "a2dpd > > &" then start mplayer. > > > > Ah, that's the problem though, a2dpd was running when I tried mplayer > (I tested over ssh with two separate terminals). > > Any other ideas? > > > Simon > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Walkthrought Java on 770
Hi, i have til now played a little with jalimo packages. I must thank the guys behind this work - the packages work and i can make tests and play around with it, not having the trouble to compile or to install everything manually :P kudos and many thanks. i one do hope to see awt and GUI support soon... btw, i still get error with the .install file method. How ever this round i can use apt-get to install cacao (which will install the rests automatically, and i have my java environment up.) Not sure if others also face this weird situation like me. from observation, a script that will take about 250mili seconds, took around 3500 mili second on the tablet. To me it is still bearable... so i am happy to see things running on the tablet. that's all from me now :) regards, wahlau. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Mozilla browser has problem with jalimo installation?
HI, > > wonder why my file system got screwed up :) > > Where is your rootfs? Internal flash or on the MMC? What filesystem > format? great i have it on MMC using ext2. just a reboot back to flash, fsck.ext2 then reboot. done :) NOw i have jalimo installed and can proceed :) however i still have no idea why the file can be corrupted since this morning... thanks again. regards, wahlau. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Mozilla browser has problem with jalimo installation?
Hi all, i manage to fsck the rootfs and now it seemed to be working :) wonder why my file system got screwed up :) thanks for the quick help! regards, wahlau On 18/07/07, Wahlau - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > the file does not exist... is there anyway i can repair this? > > regards, > wahlau > > On 18/07/07, Marius Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "ext Wahlau -" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Selecting previously deselected package classpath-common. > > > (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing > > > /var/cache/apt/archives/classpath-common_2%3a0.95+cvs20070530-1_all.deb > > > (--unpack): > > > unable to open files list file for package `microb-l10n': Input/output > > > error > > > > This unfortunately looks like a filesystem corruption. What happens > > when you do the following? > > > > # cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/microb-l10n.list > > > > > -- > = : : : --- > normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- : : : == > -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Mozilla browser has problem with jalimo installation?
Hi, the file does not exist... is there anyway i can repair this? regards, wahlau On 18/07/07, Marius Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "ext Wahlau -" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Selecting previously deselected package classpath-common. > > (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing > > /var/cache/apt/archives/classpath-common_2%3a0.95+cvs20070530-1_all.deb > > (--unpack): > > unable to open files list file for package `microb-l10n': Input/output > > error > > This unfortunately looks like a filesystem corruption. What happens > when you do the following? > > # cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/microb-l10n.list > -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Mozilla browser has problem with jalimo installation?
Hallo everyone, out of excitement i have installed the new browser, and it works pretty well as far as i am concerned. But i noticed it might have problem withe jalimo packages, since i got these errors after trying to install jalimo packages after installing microb: /home/user/bin # apt-get install cacao cacao-cldc Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: classpath classpath-common libltdl3 midpath midpath-cldc The following NEW packages will be installed: cacao cacao-cldc classpath classpath-common libltdl3 midpath midpath-cldc 0 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 0 to remove and 15 not upgraded. Need to get 11.8MB of archives. After unpacking 14.6MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! classpath-common classpath libltdl3 cacao midpath midpath-cldc cacao-cldc Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y Get:1 http://jalimo.tarent.de maemo3/user classpath-common 2:0.95+cvs20070530-1 [9190kB] Get:2 http://jalimo.tarent.de maemo3/user classpath 2:0.95+cvs20070530-1 [202kB] Get:3 http://jalimo.tarent.de maemo3/user libltdl3 1.5.22-4 [170kB] Get:4 http://jalimo.tarent.de maemo3/user cacao 0.98-jalimo1 [561kB] Get:5 http://jalimo.tarent.de maemo3/user midpath 0.0+svn20070705-jalimo2 [979kB] Get:6 http://jalimo.tarent.de maemo3/user midpath-cldc 0.0+svn20070705-jalimo2 [107kB] Get:7 http://jalimo.tarent.de maemo3/user cacao-cldc 0.98-jalimo1 [541kB] Fetched 11.8MB in 55s (213kB/s) Selecting previously deselected package classpath-common. (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/classpath-common_2%3a0.95+cvs20070530-1_all.deb (--unpack): unable to open files list file for package `microb-l10n': Input/output error Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/classpath-common_2%3a0.95+cvs20070530-1_all.deb Processing was halted because there were too many errors. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) /home/user/bin # can anyone confirm this before i try to file a bug at bugzilla? thanks. regards, wahlau. -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
question on booting from mmc
Hallo all, i have followed the instruction on the wiki, and manage to now boot from ext2 on my 2GB mmc. However i have some questions on this approach... 1. does the card has to be put in the internet slot instead of the external slot? i realise that i only can boot from mmc2 when i have the card in the internet slot... perhaps i missed somethign here. 2. is it ok/possible that i make a backup of the ext2 partition (e.g using dd and just tar it up as an image) so that i can "reflash" my ext2 partition on the memory card everytime i want to return the initial state of my dual boot? 3. i realise now i cannot access the memory card via USB cable anymore (make sense, since it booted now from the card, so i should not be able to "detach it". But how about ways to access the FAT partition i have on the same card? gone? i must reboot back to flash? i will now resort to scp, which i assume it will work :) thanks. regards, wahlau. -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Thought on 3rd part applications.
Well, i can. but i am not thinking in the direction of reinstalling them all the time when i put in a memory card into an unit. I was thinking more towards - "self healing" like of system, just in case some links are wrong. it is more like a self double check system. :) i have now done the boot from mmc, and manage to boot from my 2GB card :) thanks for the great good instruction! it was easy and direct. regards, wahlau On 12/07/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 10:35:45AM +0200, Wahlau - wrote: > > > on top of this idea, how about the ability of being able to have the > > softwares checked in terms of dependencies and such, so that upon > > insertion of the internal disk, it would be cross checked and my > > > Could you not create your own "Wahlau repository" where all the software in > it is checked with and against all the other software in the repository? > Then, a user would need to only have that repository setup and all the > software would just work. > > Ideally, maemo.org or some sub-repository hosted at maemo would work this way > but the beauty of open source is that anyone should be able to set something > like this up. > > Kevin > > > -- > In Vino Veritas > http://astroturfgarden.com > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFGljILE+4TUALb7FERApZwAJ0b8L3EMq+O46X3vScScWw+jekgjwCgyfvs > +U2YJ0afctSmdajqwZlO8Po= > =ASoK > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Thought on 3rd part applications.
Hi, on top of this idea, how about the ability of being able to have the softwares checked in terms of dependencies and such, so that upon insertion of the internal disk, it would be cross checked and my previously installed software can be just "integrated" into any Internet Tablet, provided the model is the same. then we can even have a tablet at home, and every family member can have his own disk to use it as they like with their desired softwares/applications. not sure if that makes sense ;) regards, wahlau On 11/07/07, James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All, > >some thoughts on 3rd party applications and space on the n800. Would it > make sense to anyone out there to make the internal disk mount as /usr/local > then format it with ext2/3. Finally try to motivate packagers into > installing there packages into /usr/local instead of /usr. This would mean > that up to 8GB of applications could be installed on the n800 (baring of > course ones that have to be in on the / partition.)... then of course if you > did the same with the external and mounted it as /home.. hmmm... > > James > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: new n800 user problem connecting
Hi, i think before he can get connection, he might not be able to even install xterm. most of my guess will go for the MacBook handling the Internet sharing. Also both unit must set their wifi to Ad Hoc mode, at least that setting works for my n800+thinkpad+ubuntu setup. all the best! regards, wahlau On 01/06/07, Kalle Valo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry for the late reply, I somehow forgot to answer this earlier. "ext NG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But my first problem is that i can't connect on internet :-( > > i set my macook pro as a wifi base (via sharing internet connection > through wifi-airport) ) the n800 sees the connection, connects fine > but neither mail nor web works, there is no firewall, everything is > set on dhcp and no personnal dns set. I would first setup manual IPs between your Mac and N800 and run ping between the two verify if that works. That way you could know if it's a problem with WLAN protocol or upper layers (DHCP, IP routing, DNS etc.). If ping works then it's an upper layer problem. -- Kalle Valo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800: Notes from the Field - A Successful Radio Workaround
Hi, well, it's never too late to share :) anyway, we know now at least removing battery at runtime is a big NO NO. I have not tried ejecting the camera trick, and wonder if i can do the same now with the latest firmware. now i am going to reinstall things, wish me luck :) regards, wahlau On 30/05/07, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wahlau - wrote: > the n800 just suddenly refuse to unlock. I can press > the power button + square button as many times as i like, and the tablet > will not want to unlock. At the end i chose to remove the battery. > > it turned out to be a big mistake (but what other choices do i have?) Well it is too late but what worked for me when keys were dead in first FW is to eject the camera. Even when keys were locked ejecting camera executed default application as usual and then keys suddenly started to work and I could unlock the device. Frantisek -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800: Notes from the Field - A Successful Radio Workaround
Hi, well, i think the N800 must have somehow read this mail itself - during my trip last week, the n800 just suddenly refuse to unlock. I can press the power button + square button as many times as i like, and the tablet will not want to unlock. At the end i chose to remove the battery. it turned out to be a big mistake (but what other choices do i have?) - i ended up with the n800 rebooting itself mysteriously over and over again. This symptom repeats with or without memory card. As soon as i get Internet connection again, i found out some had such rebooting issues too. So i have no choice but to reflash the unit. now i have the latest flash installed, without all the applications i have installed earlier. time to reinstall things. at least now i have no issue with the screen being turned on alright ;) regards, wahlau On 16/05/07, Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 11:39:48AM +0200, Wahlau - wrote: > > I've got my n800 last week and i have the same feeling too - the soft case > is more like eye candy than something i can rely on. I even found out if i > look the screen and slide the device in the case, if the screen is tapped it > will still brighten up as if it is ready to be used, although i have > manually locked the screen. > > kind of funny i must say, perhaps i am just a newbie :) That problem is fixed with the new firmware update... IMHO, worth it for that reason alone. :-) - Ted -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800: Notes from the Field - A Successful Radio Workaround
Hi, I've got my n800 last week and i have the same feeling too - the soft case is more like eye candy than something i can rely on. I even found out if i look the screen and slide the device in the case, if the screen is tapped it will still brighten up as if it is ready to be used, although i have manually locked the screen. kind of funny i must say, perhaps i am just a newbie :) wahlau. On 16/05/07, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 10:33:16PM +0200, Klaus Rotter wrote: > James Knott schrieb: > > Mine came with the CP-136 soft case. It's a gray, sort of fake suede. > > I think the soft case shipped with the N800 makes the situation worse. I > dropped my N800 two times (without damaging it!) because it slips out of > the soft case. Now I use a neoprene soft case with a zip. The alu case > of the N770 wasn't ideal either, but I think it was better than the soft > case supplied with the N800. I suddenly feel better about not using that case. Marius Gedminas -- The *REAL* Y2K is the year 2048. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGSqBqkVdEXeem148RAsq7AJ93LIrgTozIfphoAbzvPCBzcLus1QCeOXIY WSsmW8kvzupbuPsO3h6vhgM= =hoFo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800
Hi, with my k800i i can do both charging and/or transfer at the same time when i connect it with the USB cable to my laptop. The phone will ask which mode it should switch to which is similar to the mentioned concept. perhaps in next version then, perhaps? wahlau. On 31/01/07, Jon Smirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/31/07, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 12:41:37PM -0500, Jon Smirl wrote: > > On 1/31/07, Luca Donaggio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >That's exactly what I've done: I modified a powered hub to inject power to > > >the N800 too. It used to work on the 770, but not on the N800, so maybe > > >there's something else involved which I'm not aware of. > > > > They should have also made the N770/800 chargeable from the USB port. > > That way you can avoid carrying a charger around and charge it from > > your laptop or phone charger (most phones are switching to USB > > charging). > > When you plug the USB cable, the Nokia tablets unmount the MMC card so > that it could be exported via USB as a block device. > > It would be *very* annoying if I couldn't play mp3s from the MMC card > while the tablet was being charged. Simply charging by USB does not count as an active USB connection. You can charge without unmounting the device. With some creative software you could also remove the need to have only one side using the MMC card. Doing that would probably require exporting the card vs NFS instead of as a USB block device. Plugging in the USB cable could automatically trigger loading/unloading the USB networking module and start the in-kernel NFS server. Another way would be to add a simple UI that pops up when an active USB host is connected. It would just ask if you wanted the MMC exported over USB and give you a chance to say no. > > Marius Gedminas > -- > (mental note: stop installing red hat. everytime i do so, it takes ages to fix > my system again.) > -- from the sig of Martin Högman > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFFwObbkVdEXeem148RAjr5AJ9b0KsF2T0rSvglhpF86r+ytJCnUQCeLBMa > 7DP0ze+x4HHbngI93JKDOQU= > =HuhZ > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > -- Jon Smirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] [maemo-announce] New OS 2006 firmware released
hi, why not implement something like having the post-installed softwares on the MMC (yes, i am aware of the speed issue) so that we can just flash the what-so-ever firmware updates, and still be able to use directly the installed software straight with little tweaking (perhaps updates for these software are needed). the issue is not about flashing the firmware for me, but the reinstallation of *all* softwares all over again. From nokia consumer product point of view, perhaps this is not their issues, since they expect users to just buy the tablet and use without 3rd party software. But i would assume otherwise, where users will automatically have some 3rd party softwares, and they will hate reinstalling them over and over again everytime after a (re)flash. regards, wahlau On 31/01/07, Simon Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Except maybe for the time taken to do backup & restore, re-flashing >the device is both faster and easier than dist-upgrade. The backup & >restore could be improved somewhat, especially in regards to application >installer though. Automatic restoring of packages after reflashing >could be risky though. How about in the backup storing a list of apps that were installed from repositories and the repository list, then post flash offer to reinstall some/all of the apps from the repositories - less likely to break and less space needed for backup. (I assume there is some way apps can have their settings stored/restored in the backup by saving them in a place backedup/restored by the utility). Regards Simon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.16/660 - Release Date: 30/01/2007 17:04 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] JAVA for the 770
Dear Sebas, don be so hard on yourself.. it is because of your blog i tried the installation again, and it worked finally on my unit. Now at least i have some chance to port our department's middleware to test it on the 770, and see whether can i "trick" my prof to believe in the nokia 770 :) keep up the good work, and let's do more tests and trials. regards, wahlau On 30/01/07, sebastian maemo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm so sorry... Really, I'm terribly ashamed. My Java experiment didn't work properly. It was just a misunderstanding. It is true that the online banking pages started to work good after installing that JVM, but it was a coincidence. I've tested it and realized that those online banks don't run java applets on their sites. What really happened is that after installing the minimo, java and other related packages, I probably updated a damaged library that blocked me from entering those banking sites previously to the JVM installation. Fucking idiot (I am). 2007/1/27, Larry Battraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 1/26/07, sebastian maemo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Wahlau: > > > (snip) > > > > So you run your pre-installed browser (that is an Opera version), and go to > > the maps.google.com webpage. You don't need to install anything. If you wait > > a few seconds for the webpage to download, you'll see the typical map view > > and even satellite or hybrid view if you like. > > I think we may have a misunderstanding here. Google Maps is based on > JavaScript --no relation to Java-- and works without a JVM. I have a > 770 that has been freshly flashed which shows Google Maps just fine. > > Larry > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] JAVA for the 770
HI Sebas, thanks for your hint... since if not because of your blog, i would have not tried installing java on the 770 now. btw, mine works too... together with some tests AWT from Andrew. many have asked about using java applets.. which i myself have no idea. it would be nice if you can tell which browser you use, and how you download google map and stuffs... i might perhaps write up a little on the whole thing once i have the time, once. :) regards, wahlau On 26/01/07, sebastian maemo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, this is Sebas. I posted a blog comment where I told how I installed a JVM in my 770. I'm new in this list, so I cannot comment the previous thread. But just to tell Wahlau and others that it really works. I can download Google Maps (not the Mobile version, but the standard PC one), access my Java-enabled bank account webpage, and others. I think the ports were developed by a nice guy called Alexander. I think he's developing many things at the Garage. Anyway thank him very much. The packages are not well packaged :) So that it is not easy to install them, because the application manager cannot do it. You must use dpkg from an x-term. If you find it a difficult task just let me know. Ah, it's important to have installed the "minimo" package previously. Salut. Sebas. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: Battery Benchmarking?
i think it does not. i have today an adhoc connection to my notebook, for testing gpesyncd (which did not work totally, but that is another story) and surprisingly after my lunch break, i saw the 770 off/blank, but i am able to start multisync-gui with synchronization without reestablishing the connection. so i assumed the connection stayed... on even if the unit went into blank mode? regards, wahlau. On 19/01/07, Dave Cridland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon Jan 15 09:09:37 2007, Kalle Valo wrote: > Netfilter is used to track idle connections and that's why iptables > is > installed. Hmmm... Catching up on my mail, I noticed this one... So what does "idle" mean, and what does the 770 do when it sees an "idle" connection? Please tell me it doesn't kill the connection. Dave. -- Dave Cridland - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - acap://acap.dave.cridland.net/byowner/user/dwd/bookmarks/ - http://dave.cridland.net/ Infotrope Polymer - ACAP, IMAP, ESMTP, and Lemonade ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
woops. wrong URI, sorry... the forum is from internettablettalk.com http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums wahlau ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
Yeah i read that too... but i do not know whether did he actually achieved that, or he hope to achieve it. the AWTExample file i found on the internettablet.com forum worked (almost) and i can see AWT window and buttons. speed wise... around 10 secs before i get it loaded. I would say for a simple software, it is slow but bearable. regards, wahlau On 11/01/07, James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday 10 January 2007 07:11, Wahlau - wrote: > Hi, > > i have so far only tried some simple java binaries, and they somehow > worked (pretty well) as far as i am concerned. > > i have however not tested/tried about any plugin for browser... have > no blinking idea about this at all.. anyone else? > > speed wise i can sense its lag (as compared to a centrino. LOL) but > from the ipaq linux experience it is still quite acceptable. > > regards, > wahlau. I got similar results. The reason I checked the plugin is that the page mentions the need for minimo browser and that he could now use his nokia with his online banks java applications. James > > On 10/01/07, James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday 08 January 2007 06:22, Wahlau - wrote: > > > HI all, > > > > > > while reading this thread, i made a search and found Sebas got things > > > working: > > > http://sebas-nokia770.blogspot.com/2006/12/java-on-nokia-770-simple-and > > >-eas y.html > > > > > > can't try that now, since i don have my 770 with me. Anyone with time > > > and courage can test it out... shall do when i find some free time > > > tonight. > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > wahlau. > > > > wahlau, > > > >I'd love to compare results with you so far yes it does install > > without a hitch (no conflicts no missing libraries etc.) But I haven't > > been able to find evidence of a plugin for either the opera or the minimo > > browser. (about:plugins doesn't work dang it.) still looking into what > > and were it installed the files most seem to be in /usr/local/. going to > > the anfy java page (just to view some applets.) the site claims I have a > > non-java enabled browser. > > > > James > > > > > On 08/01/07, Roberto Resoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 2007/1/3, Peter Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Well the PhoneME MR2 just released has an Linux ARM version so I > > > > > don't see why it couldn't run on maemo. > > > > > > > > > > https://phoneme.dev.java.net/downloads_page.html > > > > > > > > Really interesting, i would like to work on porting this > > > > > > > > Roberto. > > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > maemo-users mailing list > > > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > > ___ > > maemo-users mailing list > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] ITOS 2007
Actually to clarify the fuss and confussion: not going to integrate IT2007 for the 770, does it mean we will not be getting better version of IT2006? or it simply mean they are now working hard (the same way as before when there was only one tablet) on 2 systems - namely IT2006 and IT2007 for both tablets? since the naming does not reflect end of support in any year... though the numbers 2006 and 2007 can be at times disturbing :) i try to believe the latter, to justify my trust for nokia and the future of the 770 unit. wahlau. On 11/01/07, Scott G Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Realistically, people are not going to buy the 770 when a superior solution is available, and the dwindling user base will ensure steadily decreasing support. The 770 is headed for the junk drawer and the collector's shelf. I'd prefer to swap mine in for an n800 - seems like Nokia would gain tremendous good will from early supporters by providing for this. Matthew Bassett wrote: > To be fair to Nokia, they do not say they will stop supporting the > Nokia 770 (in fact Dr. Ari Jaaksi has specifically stated they will > continue to support and sell the 770), they have only said that they > will not integrate IT2007 for the 770. > > Hopefully we will still get bug fix updates, and maybe even some > features of IT2007 can be ported to IT2006 (email app?) > > On 1/10/07, Mdecandia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> - Original Message >> Da: James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: maemo-users@maemo.org >> Oggetto: Re: [maemo-users] ITOS 2007 >> Data: 10/01/07 00:26 >> >> > >> > >> > >> > On Monday 08 January 2007 03:49, Peter Robinson wrote: >> > > > Peter Robinson wrote: >> > > > > Its the Maemo 3.0 "Bora" release. Nokia has made no mention of >> whether >> > > > > the 770 will be updated to run IT-2007. I can only say I hope so. >> > > > > Details on Bora here http://www.maemo.org/downloads/releases.html >> > > > > >> > > > > Peter >> > > > > >> > > > > On 1/8/07, Laurent MARTIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > >> Hi! >> > > > >> I've just browsed nseries.com/n800 to know more about the >> N800. It >> is >> > > > >> announced with ITOS 2007 in it: is this new release already >> available >> > > > >> and will be work with our "old" 770? >> > > > >> Any information on this? >> > > > >> > > > On the maemo.org website there's a note stating that the OS2007 >> CANNOT >> > > > be flashed on the 770 :( >> > > >> > > Yes, but that is that firmware. I would expect the firmware's for >> each >> > > device to be different due to different requirements for things like >> > > kernel builds, drivers etc but that doesn't mean that they can't >> build >> > > a IT-2007 release for the 770, the question that remains is whether >> > > they will and that is something that needs to come from Nokia. >> > > >> > > Peter >> > >> > Unfortunately it looks like I have a less than 90 day old 770 that is >> about to >> > be abandoned OS wise If I'm reading correctly. Let the buyer be ware. >> > bummer. >> > >> > James >> > >> >> My 770 has 2 weeks and I'm going to have a device with no more >> support. I'm >> very disappointed. >> >> Michele De Candia >> >> >> ___ >> > maemo-users mailing list >> > maemo-users@maemo.org >> > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >> > >> > >> > >> -- >> Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f >> >> Sponsor: >> Refill srl dal 1993, il compatibile per stampante di qualità . 5000 >> prodotti >> in pronta consegna, consegna in 24h, assistenza telefonica da tecnici >> specializzati >> Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=5192&d=20070110 >> >> >> ___ >> maemo-users mailing list >> maemo-users@maemo.org >> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >> > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
Hi, i have so far only tried some simple java binaries, and they somehow worked (pretty well) as far as i am concerned. i have however not tested/tried about any plugin for browser... have no blinking idea about this at all.. anyone else? speed wise i can sense its lag (as compared to a centrino. LOL) but from the ipaq linux experience it is still quite acceptable. regards, wahlau. On 10/01/07, James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday 08 January 2007 06:22, Wahlau - wrote: > HI all, > > while reading this thread, i made a search and found Sebas got things > working: > http://sebas-nokia770.blogspot.com/2006/12/java-on-nokia-770-simple-and-eas >y.html > > can't try that now, since i don have my 770 with me. Anyone with time > and courage can test it out... shall do when i find some free time > tonight. > > cheers, > > wahlau. wahlau, I'd love to compare results with you so far yes it does install without a hitch (no conflicts no missing libraries etc.) But I haven't been able to find evidence of a plugin for either the opera or the minimo browser. (about:plugins doesn't work dang it.) still looking into what and were it installed the files most seem to be in /usr/local/. going to the anfy java page (just to view some applets.) the site claims I have a non-java enabled browser. James > > On 08/01/07, Roberto Resoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2007/1/3, Peter Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Well the PhoneME MR2 just released has an Linux ARM version so I don't > > > see why it couldn't run on maemo. > > > > > > https://phoneme.dev.java.net/downloads_page.html > > > > Really interesting, i would like to work on porting this > > > > Roberto. > > > > > Peter > > > > ___ > > maemo-users mailing list > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
HI all, while reading this thread, i made a search and found Sebas got things working: http://sebas-nokia770.blogspot.com/2006/12/java-on-nokia-770-simple-and-easy.html can't try that now, since i don have my 770 with me. Anyone with time and courage can test it out... shall do when i find some free time tonight. cheers, wahlau. On 08/01/07, Roberto Resoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2007/1/3, Peter Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Well the PhoneME MR2 just released has an Linux ARM version so I don't > see why it couldn't run on maemo. > > https://phoneme.dev.java.net/downloads_page.html Really interesting, i would like to work on porting this Roberto. > > Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
