RE: HP iPAQ BT keyboard

[randall.arnold]

I encountered that error a few times too... Sorry, I forgot to mention
that.  Sounds like our experiences are identical-- I just hope you get
the best of it like I did.

Randall (Randy) Arnold
Quality Feedback Analyst
Nokia-CMO/Dallas
 

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Willie McKemie
>Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 2:00 PM
>To: maemo-users@maemo.org
>Subject: Re: HP iPAQ BT keyboard
>
>On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 01:08:34PM -0500, 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I encountered the same problem with my Nokia bt keyboard and 
>the N800.
>> Took something like 20 tries to get past the authentication, 
>but I was 
>> eventually successful.  Note that I only used 4 characters of my own 
>> choosing.  Definitely seemed to be a timing issue.
>
>Thanks for the comments.  After reading them, I discovered 
>that I could specify a "passcode".  I tried again, this time 
>with a "passcode" of
> to make the typing go faster.  Now, instead of 
>"Authentication failed", I get "Device resources exceeded".  
>Also tried a single digit passcode of "9".  It now seems 
>random whether I get "resources exceeded" or "Authentication failed".
>
>Come on, someone out there, either there is something I don't 
>understand about BT "pairing" or there is a bug.  Someone tell me!
>
>> >
>> >I haven't been able to "pair" the subject keyboard with my 
>800.  I'm 
>> >pretty sure it's just cockpit error.  Can someone tell my what I'm 
>> >doing wrong?
>> >
>> >The 800 searches for and finds the "BT-foldableKB".  I select that 
>> >device and it the 800 assigns a "passcode".  I then touch "OK" and 
>> >then type in the four digit pass code plus  as fast 
>as I can.
>> >Invariably, I get "Pairing failed Authentication failed Try 
>again?", 
>> >usually before I've finished typing the five key sequence.  And 
>> >again.
>> >And again.
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RE: HP iPAQ BT keyboard

[randall.arnold]

I encountered the same problem with my Nokia bt keyboard and the N800.
Took something like 20 tries to get past the authentication, but I was
eventually successful.  Note that I only used 4 characters of my own
choosing.  Definitely seemed to be a timing issue.

Randall (Randy) Arnold
Quality Feedback Analyst
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>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Willie McKemie
>Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 1:27 PM
>To: maemo-users@maemo.org
>Subject: HP iPAQ BT keyboard
>
>I haven't been able to "pair" the subject keyboard with my 
>800.  I'm pretty sure it's just cockpit error.  Can someone 
>tell my what I'm doing wrong?
>
>The 800 searches for and finds the "BT-foldableKB".  I select 
>that device and it the 800 assigns a "passcode".  I then touch 
>"OK" and then type in the four digit pass code plus  
>as fast as I can.  
>Invariably, I get "Pairing failed Authentication failed Try 
>again?", usually before I've finished typing the five key 
>sequence.  And again. 
>And again.
>
>--
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RE: Fwd: Skype on N800

[randall.arnold]

I want to apologize to the entire list and especially to the hardworking
N800 folks.  My original questions about release of information were
misunderstood and were never intended to indict anyone involved.  I
didn't think that there was anything inflammatory in what I said but
perhaps I could have taken more time than I did to better word it.

Suffice to say I do understand well the need for secrecy and in no way
intended to undermine that.  Tablet users should understand that Nokia
has reasons for keeping certain details proprietary.  My goal was only
to ask for some sort of official statement that could be provided to a
community eager for any news at all, even bad.  I in no way expected
that secret details should be made available to the users in any way.  I
am sorry that I was not careful enough in the wording of my post and
provided the wrong impression to some.

Randall (Randy) Arnold
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>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext MoRpHeUz
>Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 4:34 AM
>To: Hanno Zulla
>Cc: ext Neil MacLeod; maemo-users@maemo.org
>Subject: Re: Fwd: Skype on N800
>
>Hi,
>
>> Something like "a new firmware release is planned for next 
>month, but 
>> don't jump on us if we miss the date again. We made major 
>improvements 
>> in x, y and z and there are some surprise new features most of you 
>> will like a lot."
>
>  Just to say that something like that came to public when we 
>had the announcement of Skype for N800. It said that at the 
>end of the first semester we would have Skype for N800 and if 
>I'm not wrong (I'm not sure about this), somewhere they 
>pointed out that we also should have a firmware release, this 
>is why everybody is talking about this "imminent" firmware.
>
>BR,
>
>
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RE: Fwd: Skype on N800

[randall.arnold]

Nice info Eric, thanks.

Open question to N800 program folks: what is so wrong about providing more 
communications to the community about updates?  Lot of owners being very 
patient about Skype and OS releases, but irritated about the silence.  Can't we 
at least provide SOMEthing to them???  They know Finland started mass vacation 
and so they're disappointed nothing came out today...

Randall (Randy) Arnold
Quality Feedback Analyst
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>-Original Message-
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>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Eric Cooper
>Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 4:01 PM
>To: maemo-users@maemo.org
>Subject: Re: Fwd: Skype on N800
>
>On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 12:35:53AM +0400, Максим Лопарёв wrote:
>> why this list doesn't change REPLY-TO?
>
>http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
>
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RE: When are we to expect the next update for the N800 from Nokia?

[randall.arnold]

I don't know about Dallas offhand either.  I live closer to Fort Worth,
where my brother is a city employee and tells me the city is paranoid
about WiFi.  Figures.

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Quality Feedback Analyst
Nokia-CMO/Dallas
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From: ext Aaron Westerdale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:28 PM
To: Arnold Randall (Nokia-CMO/Dallas)
Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: When are we to expect the next update for the N800
from Nokia?


I'm not sure about Dallas, but I would hope they are working on
free wifi, I live in the Midwest, and both Dubuque, IA and Madison, WI
are working on getting free city wide wifi within the next 5 years or at
least thats what they tell us.  There are already a few free wifi spots
in Dubuque thanks to the city.  I can't wait till I live in a city that
has wifi city wide, I'd even be willing to pay a small fee for it. 

Back to the original title of this thread.  I am interested in
knowing when the next release would be that would include the USB
drivers so I know if I should start playing with compiling the kernel
myself or if I should just wait a bit longer for a release. 


On 6/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote: 

Yeah, I know.  But MuniFi is growing.  Just not fast
enough!

Randall (Randy) Arnold 
Quality Feedback Analyst
Nokia-CMO/Dallas




>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ] On Behalf Of ext Jonathan Greene
>Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 1:31 PM
>To: Arnold Randall (Nokia-CMO/Dallas)
>Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org 
>Subject: Re: When are we to expect the next update for
the
>N800 from Nokia?
>
>Think we live in the wrong country for that one... :)
I guess
>depending on your city, you might at least get MuniFi 
>
>On 6/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I want free or cheap WiFi to be as highly available
as my 
>GSM service.
>> Then I can chuck my phone and live on my N800.  ; )
>>
>> Randall (Randy) Arnold
>> Quality Feedback Analyst
>> Nokia-CMO/Dallas
>>
>> 
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]
>> >Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:24 AM
>> >To: Peter Bart
>> >Cc: maemo users list
>> >Subject: Re: When are we to expect the next update
for the 
>N800 from
>> >Nokia?
>> >
>> >On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 06:58:24AM -0400, Peter Bart
wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 07:52 +0100, Alan Williamson
wrote:
>> > 
>> >> > the other day thinking, if this device had
GPRS/EDGE
>> >support then it
>> >> > would be a rival for the iPhone.
>> >>
>> >>  Apples and oranges, literally. I for one do
*not* want 
>> >it to be an
>> >> iPhone competitor. Then the beauty of this device
will get
>> >lost in the
>> >> noise. I want a device much like it is now,
separate from
>my phone. 
>> >
>> >I agree.  But then again, I disagree.  My thinking
of late
>is that i
>> >no longer want my phone to be my phone.  I want it
to go
>away and as
>> >a replacement, I'd like to see an increased use of
VOIP, hopefully 
>> >through a device like the 770, when I want, and
through a different
>> >device when I don't want.
>> >I'd like to be able to forget my phone at home and
still be able to
>> >make calls as if I hadn't, or switch phones with the
ease of a
>> >username/password combo.
>> >The iPhone is a neat device, but I think it's going
in the wrong
>> >direction.  I think (hope) that the direction for
distant voice 
>> >communication is over IP.  I guess time and network
infrastructure
>> >will tell.  Still, the Nokia tablet is obviously
already positioned
>> >to make this happen.
>> > 
   

RE: When are we to expect the next update for the N800 from Nokia?

[randall.arnold]

Yeah, I know.  But MuniFi is growing.  Just not fast enough!

Randall (Randy) Arnold
Quality Feedback Analyst
Nokia-CMO/Dallas


 

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Jonathan Greene
>Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 1:31 PM
>To: Arnold Randall (Nokia-CMO/Dallas)
>Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
>Subject: Re: When are we to expect the next update for the 
>N800 from Nokia?
>
>Think we live in the wrong country for that one... :)  I guess 
>depending on your city, you might at least get MuniFi
>
>On 6/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I want free or cheap WiFi to be as highly available as my 
>GSM service.
>> Then I can chuck my phone and live on my N800.  ; )
>>
>> Randall (Randy) Arnold
>> Quality Feedback Analyst
>> Nokia-CMO/Dallas
>>
>>
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:24 AM
>> >To: Peter Bart
>> >Cc: maemo users list
>> >Subject: Re: When are we to expect the next update for the 
>N800 from 
>> >Nokia?
>> >
>> >On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 06:58:24AM -0400, Peter Bart wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 07:52 +0100, Alan Williamson wrote:
>> >
>> >> > the other day thinking, if this device had GPRS/EDGE
>> >support then it
>> >> > would be a rival for the iPhone.
>> >>
>> >>  Apples and oranges, literally. I for one do *not* want
>> >it to be an
>> >> iPhone competitor. Then the beauty of this device will get
>> >lost in the
>> >> noise. I want a device much like it is now, separate from 
>my phone.
>> >
>> >I agree.  But then again, I disagree.  My thinking of late 
>is that i 
>> >no longer want my phone to be my phone.  I want it to go 
>away and as 
>> >a replacement, I'd like to see an increased use of VOIP, hopefully 
>> >through a device like the 770, when I want, and through a different 
>> >device when I don't want.
>> >I'd like to be able to forget my phone at home and still be able to 
>> >make calls as if I hadn't, or switch phones with the ease of a 
>> >username/password combo.
>> >The iPhone is a neat device, but I think it's going in the wrong 
>> >direction.  I think (hope) that the direction for distant voice 
>> >communication is over IP.  I guess time and network infrastructure 
>> >will tell.  Still, the Nokia tablet is obviously already positioned 
>> >to make this happen.
>> >
>> >K
>> >
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RE: When are we to expect the next update for the N800 from Nokia?

[randall.arnold]

I want free or cheap WiFi to be as highly available as my GSM service.
Then I can chuck my phone and live on my N800.  ; )

Randall (Randy) Arnold
Quality Feedback Analyst
Nokia-CMO/Dallas

 

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:24 AM
>To: Peter Bart
>Cc: maemo users list
>Subject: Re: When are we to expect the next update for the 
>N800 from Nokia?
>
>On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 06:58:24AM -0400, Peter Bart wrote:
>> On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 07:52 +0100, Alan Williamson wrote:
>
>> > the other day thinking, if this device had GPRS/EDGE 
>support then it 
>> > would be a rival for the iPhone.
>> 
>>  Apples and oranges, literally. I for one do *not* want 
>it to be an 
>> iPhone competitor. Then the beauty of this device will get 
>lost in the 
>> noise. I want a device much like it is now, separate from my phone.
>
>I agree.  But then again, I disagree.  My thinking of late is 
>that i no longer want my phone to be my phone.  I want it to 
>go away and as a replacement, I'd like to see an increased use 
>of VOIP, hopefully through a device like the 770, when I want, 
>and through a different device when I don't want.
>I'd like to be able to forget my phone at home and still be 
>able to make calls as if I hadn't, or switch phones with the 
>ease of a username/password combo.  
>The iPhone is a neat device, but I think it's going in the 
>wrong direction.  I think (hope) that the direction for 
>distant voice communication is over IP.  I guess time and 
>network infrastructure will tell.  Still, the Nokia tablet is 
>obviously already positioned to make this happen.
>
>K
>
>--
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>http://astroturfgarden.com
>
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RE: Better planet layout through Greasemonkey/Stylish

[randall.arnold]

This is a great discussion!  Your contribution certainly helps, Neil.

Randall (Randy) Arnold
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>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Neil MacLeod
>Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 3:21 PM
>To: maemo-users@maemo.org
>Subject: Re: Better planet layout through Greasemonkey/Stylish
>
>Quim Gil wrote:
>
>> Usability is not tied to fixed or flexible width, you can find 
>> examples of good and bad practices with both modalities. 
>Obviously our 
>> current implementation has serious problems specially in areas like 
>> the Planet, agreed. This doesn't mean that fixed width is 
>necessarily 
>> wrong. For instance Andrew, who is suggesting an alternative layout 
>> for the Planet uses fixed width in his blog, like many bloggers do.
>> 
>
>OK I take your point - fixed width is not necessarily bad. But 
>unnecessarily narrow fixed width *is* very bad, particularly 
>when articles are wrapping lines at 5, 6 or 7 word intervals 
>when there is acres of space to the left and right.
>
>> 
>> Agreed. However, reading a planet at that width is not a great 
>> alternative and example of readability either. Read Planet Ubuntu at 
>> that width. Many Planet readers are use to that but, really, I think 
>> something better can be done. For some reason newspapers and 
>magazines 
>> have columns and etc (old basic usability stuff).
>> 
>
>I have been taught in the past that English is most readable 
>when lines are wrapped at an average of 10-13 words per line. 
>An average of eight words per line would still be readable, 
>but the current Maemo Planet design is not so readable. I 
>agree that a flexible width design can result in too many 
>words per line, but since this is somewhat under my control I 
>would prefer that to an artificially constrained layout where 
>I am constantly flicking my eyes left-right-down every 
>half-dozen words or so.
>
>> The problem is not the fixed width, which is more or less the same 
>> that i.e. http://www.maemopeople.org/ and the average 
>Wordpress blog, 
>> so to say. The problem is how we deal with the content area: 
>> hackergotchis, fonts, navigation bar and some code wrong 
>that creates 
>> unnecessary extra white space.
>> 
>
>Hopefully if you aim for a content area that wraps lines with 
>at least 8 words per line on average (though 10 would be 
>preferable) it will be substantially more readable. 
>maemopeople.org for instance, wraps at around 11 words per 
>line on average.
>
>> One option is to get rid of the hackergotchis, or the navigation, 
>> letting the content with the usual width in blogs. Hackergotchis are 
>> cool (when they have pictures). The navigation is not 
>essential. If we 
>> have to drop something this will be the victim. Let's see. 
>Oskari has 
>> as priority number 1 fixing the (troublesome anyway) navigation and 
>> the Planet layout. Give him some days.
>
>The navigation definately needs a rethink, both in 
>presentation (look) and architecture. If the vertical nav is 
>retained, use a smaller font however a multi-level horizontal 
>nav may be better as it would free up the right hand column 
>which is mostly wasted space unless content can be designed to 
>flow into the right hand column below the nav.
>
>hackergotchis I can't say I care for them - given a choice, drop em.
>
>> Web structure is not completed.
>
>Understood, sorry for jumping the gun :)
>
>> "Upfront and center" is where they are located in the frontpage.
>
>Perhaps it's just me, but the section of the front page that 
>contains the Bugzilla and Wiki links is just plain odd. It's 
>detached from the main navigation and seems unnecessary and 
>redundant. The links present in this section could/should be 
>in the main navigation, freeing up space in the front page and 
>making it easier to navigate to common pages such as 
>Wiki/Bugzilla from anywhere within the site.
>
>Dedicated links to common pages should be present in the main 
>navigation, and not present only in a disjointed section of 
>the frontpage.
>
>> 
>> We want to provide a context for those users that don't even 
>know that 
>> there is a wiki or a bugzilla. And for those that don't know what a 
>> wiki or a bugzilla are, but they want to read tips&tricks 
>and complain 
>> about something that doesn't work.
>> 
>Context is good, but it's not making it obvious. Perhaps it's 
>because these areas of the site had dedicated sections in the 
>old site that they now they seem to be more peripheral.
>
>> This is why the wiki will be under Support and will be 
>focused to the 
>> community exchanging all the info that is not part of the official 
>> documentation. The wiki will be also linked from Development > 
>> Documentation ("If you are looking for more check...".
>> 
>> This is also why bugzilla will have several entry points and 
>hopefully 
>> customized simple forms not to discourage anybody. Entry points 
>> include Develo

RE: Skype Update?

[randall.arnold]

That's helpful information!  And yeah, I'm well aware of the typical
need to completely reboot the N800 after some app installations,
especially where communications and network access clients are
concerned.  Given what you just told me, I might give Gizmo another
shot.  Thanks!

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>-Original Message-
>From: ext Michael Wiktowy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 2:49 PM
>To: Arnold Randall (Nokia-CMO/Dallas)
>Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
>Subject: Re: Skype Update?
>
>On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The biggest one that comes to mind was the inability to 
>login.  I was 
>> successful a couple of times on my laptop, zero times on PC and N800.
>> That randomness and inconsistency was puzzling. In the same 
>> environments (I tested 2), why was the laptop the only one 
>that could 
>> successfully log in?  And at that, why was I only successful 
>a couple of times?
>> Every other time I encountered uninformative system messages that I 
>> could not log in.
>>
>> I never received answers to my questions so I eventually uninstalled 
>> the apps.  I'd be tempted to try again if I knew my problems 
>had been 
>> reproduced, identified and corrected... But I've never seen an 
>> indication that they ever were.
>
>That does ring a bell now that you mention it. When I first 
>installed Gizmo on Fedora, it gave me some login issues. The 
>login message was highly uninformative since the problem was 
>not with the login but rather with the fact that I hadn't 
>installed the Rendevzous (aka DNS-SD aka Avahi aka Bonjour) 
>libraries and Gizmo needs them to work properly. As soon as I 
>installed Avahi, it worked. I did complain about that 
>uninformative message not pointing to the correct problem on 
>the Gizmo forums. They used to bundle those libraries 
>separately but now they bundle them in the main install, I believe.
>
>I recall that Gizmo wouldn't login on the 770/N800 until I did 
>a full reboot (power cycle *without* it being on the charger) 
>so that it could start up the DNS-SD service. I think that 
>many people don't realize that the tablets do not actually 
>reboot if you power cycle it while it is charging.
>
>/Mike
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RE: Skype Update?

[randall.arnold]

The biggest one that comes to mind was the inability to login.  I was
successful a couple of times on my laptop, zero times on PC and N800.
That randomness and inconsistency was puzzling. In the same environments
(I tested 2), why was the laptop the only one that could successfully
log in?  And at that, why was I only successful a couple of times?
Every other time I encountered uninformative system messages that I
could not log in.

I never received answers to my questions so I eventually uninstalled the
apps.  I'd be tempted to try again if I knew my problems had been
reproduced, identified and corrected... But I've never seen an
indication that they ever were.

Randall (Randy) Arnold
Quality Feedback Analyst
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>-Original Message-
>From: ext Michael Wiktowy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:52 PM
>To: Arnold Randall (Nokia-CMO/Dallas)
>Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
>Subject: Re: Skype Update?
>
>On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I reluctantly gave up on Gizmo because I couldn't get it to 
>work on my 
>> PC, laptop or N800.  Odd, because I've had no problems with 
>> GoogleTalk, GAIM, etc.  I'm hoping Skype comes out soon so I 
>can give it a shot.
>
>That is odd. It has worked fine on every system I own. There 
>was some SELinux issues on some test releases of Fedora Linux 
>that I had to report and fix but other than that, it has been 
>pretty painless to install.
>
>What were your issues?
>
>/Mike
>
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RE: Skype Update?

[randall.arnold]

I reluctantly gave up on Gizmo because I couldn't get it to work on my
PC, laptop or N800.  Odd, because I've had no problems with GoogleTalk,
GAIM, etc.  I'm hoping Skype comes out soon so I can give it a shot.

Randall (Randy) Arnold
Quality Feedback Analyst
Nokia-CMO/Dallas
 

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Michael Wiktowy
>Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 9:42 AM
>To: Rainer Dorsch
>Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
>Subject: Re: Skype Update?
>
>On 5/9/07, Rainer Dorsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> With non-Gizmo servers I saw frequently the first seconds 
>missing in a 
>> call (not sure if that is by accident). That rendered it 
>unusable for 
>> me. I was trying with sipgate.de, all desktop VOIP clients 
>worked well 
>> with that SIP server.
>
>That really isn't limited to non-Gizmo servers ... it happens 
>on the Gizmo servers too. I had reported it and was told that 
>it was a hardware CPU limitation issue that causes some time 
>to set up the data stream once the connection is made. I am 
>sure things could be done with setting things up while the 
>line is ringing but they seem to be working on other things 
>than optimizing for the 770/N800.
>
>I hope that Ekiga shows up on the 770/N800 some day ...
>
>Either way, if you can get over the few second delay on pick 
>up with Gizmo, the call quality is good with very few dropouts 
>(fewer dropouts than mobile phones but more than land-lines 
>with voice quality better than both).
>
>/Mike
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RE: Instant on Loading

[randall.arnold]

Now I see why it's so hard to engage my Finnish guests in small talk!
They are very patient with my madness, though (Hi Antti, if you're on
this list).  ; )

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>-Original Message-
>From: Kalle Valo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 5:02 PM
>To: ext Mathias Uebelacker
>Cc: Arnold Randall (Nokia-CMO/Dallas); maemo-users@maemo.org
>Subject: Re: Instant on Loading
>
>"ext Mathias Uebelacker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> well and another useful thing is an ear protection so that you can 
>> work without any disturbs from the other passengers and 
>there questions like ...
>> oh what a nice little computer or whats that or please describe all 
>> the functions or can i see the video function please.
>
>Move to Finland. Here people don't talk to strangers in a bus 
>or a train, everyone just sits dead quiet and try to even 
>avoid eye contact ;)
>
>Well, cell phones are an exception. It's okay to talk really 
>loud to your phone and discuss about your secret issues etc.
>
>Okay, I'll admit that some people do talk to strangers in a 
>bus. But he will be immediately categorised as being drunk :)
>
>--
>Kalle Valo
>
>
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RE: Instant on Loading

[randall.arnold]

I sat down for supper one night in CiCi's pizza (a chain in the US) and
wondered if they had wifi.  They sure did, and protected by a 5-charcter
password only.  On a lark, I entered "cicis"-- got me right in.  But,
yeah, I drive around sometimes with my N800 beside me periodically
looking for access points, and at any given time I can easily find a
half-dozen in range, unlocked.

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Quality Feedback Analyst
Nokia-CMO/Dallas


 

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Alan Williamson
>Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:05 PM
>To: maemo-users
>Subject: Re: Instant on Loading
>
>Speaking of the field, the instant on has been interesting.  I 
>have found myself sitting idly in the car waiting for my wife 
>as she pops into the shops for various stuff.
>
>fire up the N800, and jump on to an available wireless 
>connection that some poor soul has left completely wide open 
>to let the N800 get its RSS fix!  I can be in and out in the 
>under the minute!!!
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> You reminded me of something.  Verizon guys came over last week to 
>> hook up a new fiber optic based internet/phone/TV system to my house 
>> (very nice, very fast).  When they were done the PC couldn't 
>> immediately connect to the new router and when I was unable to reset 
>> the IP I realized I needed to reboot it, which would take a 
>few minutes.
>> However, I didn't really need the PC to test it, did I?  Not when I 
>> could fire up the N800 in far less time and connect almost instantly!
>> Sure enough, I could get on the internet right away.  The Verizon 
>> techs were stunned.  As they left all they could talk about was 
>> getting a hold of N800s and using them in the field.  Now, if only 
>> Nokia would get behind such corporate uses (hint hint, fellow 
>> employees...)
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RE: Instant on Loading

[randall.arnold]

You reminded me of something.  Verizon guys came over last week to hook
up a new fiber optic based internet/phone/TV system to my house (very
nice, very fast).  When they were done the PC couldn't immediately
connect to the new router and when I was unable to reset the IP I
realized I needed to reboot it, which would take a few minutes.
However, I didn't really need the PC to test it, did I?  Not when I
could fire up the N800 in far less time and connect almost instantly!
Sure enough, I could get on the internet right away.  The Verizon techs
were stunned.  As they left all they could talk about was getting a hold
of N800s and using them in the field.  Now, if only Nokia would get
behind such corporate uses (hint hint, fellow employees...)

Randall (Randy) Arnold
Quality Feedback Analyst
Nokia-CMO/Dallas
1-817-408-5159 (mobile)

 




From: ext Mathias Uebelacker
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:28 PM
To: Arnold Randall (Nokia-CMO/Dallas)
Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Instant on Loading


well and another useful thing is an ear protection so that you
can work without any disturbs from the other passengers and there
questions like ... oh what a nice little computer or whats that or
please describe all the functions or can i see the video function
please. 

Mathias


2007/5/8, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

Not to mention that the manual is loaded in PDF form to
the device (in way too many languages... delete...delete...delete...
lol)

Randall (Randy) Arnold
Quality Feedback Analyst
Nokia-CMO/Dallas


 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Mathias
Uebelacker
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:14 PM
To: Alan Williamson
Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Instant on Loading



so if you do not carry your manual with you ;)
you can use the onboard help by typing "offline" you get some possible
results - with the key-combination

Mathias


2007/5/8, Alan Williamson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


> Have a look to the manual, it even has
some cool industrial icons (like 
> page 5, some people like these
things).


oh come on ... surely you aren't
expecting me to read the actual manual
now are you?!?!?  Now where would all
the fun be?!?  ;)

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RE: Instant on Loading

[randall.arnold]

Not to mention that the manual is loaded in PDF form to the device (in
way too many languages... delete...delete...delete... lol)

Randall (Randy) Arnold
Quality Feedback Analyst
Nokia-CMO/Dallas


 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Mathias
Uebelacker
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:14 PM
To: Alan Williamson
Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Instant on Loading


so if you do not carry your manual with you ;) you can use the
onboard help by typing "offline" you get some possible results - with
the key-combination

Mathias


2007/5/8, Alan Williamson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

> Have a look to the manual, it even has some cool
industrial icons (like 
> page 5, some people like these things).


oh come on ... surely you aren't expecting me to read
the actual manual
now are you?!?!?  Now where would all the fun be?!?  ;)
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RE: N800 inflight!

[randall.arnold]

Yeah, I'm surprised the option was not put in another location, such as
the wifi icon.  I always forget it's accessed via the tablet's power
button... and I helped launch the crazy thing!  I blame advancing age.

Randall (Randy) Arnold
Quality Feedback Analyst
Nokia-CMO/Dallas
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>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Alan Williamson
>Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:34 AM
>To: maemo-users
>Subject: Re: N800 inflight!
>
>> There's a off line option, which turns off all wireless, including 
>> bluetooth.  Just press the power button to bring up the list 
>to select.
>
>oooh sweet, now i see it.  [i never turn off the device!]
>
>thanks James.
>
>--
>Alan Williamson
>  "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/
>
>  b: http://alan.blog-city.com/
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RE: Nokia N800 or N770 and very bad eyesight.

[randall.arnold]

hey, Antonio, that's a really interesting idea!  I'd love to see this
put into use...

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>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Antonio Orlando
>Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:59 AM
>To: Maemo users
>Subject: Re: Nokia N800 or N770 and very bad eyesight.
>
>> This thread just made me realize, the N800/770 could be 
>ideal devices 
>> for stereoscopic viewing.
>
>Same opinion here, but with a different approach than the one 
>you propose, which requires dangerous efforts to eyes and 
>mind. The 770 and n800, with their high screen resolution, can 
>"easily" be used as *amazing* stereoscopic photo and video 
>displays. Sure, not many movies are made in 3D, but I think 
>it's a matter of time. And besides videos and photos, there 
>are many other applications that could benefit from depth perception.
>
>I advanced a suggestion to GP2X staff some time ago, and I've 
>already done a bit of experimentation on the 770 on this 
>subject. My "prototype"  
>results are very encouraging. What we need is a sort of 
>"screen cover"  
>perfectly fitting the 770 display with its dimensions, so to 
>avoid every shift on the display.
>
>This "kind-of-screen-cover" has to be a lenticular (you know, 
>those you can find with potato chips, used to bring 2D 
>animations, zoom or 3D effects). The 770 should be used in 
>"portrait mode" (and the lenticular must of course have the 
>vertical stripes parallel to the symmetry axis of our body), 
>because the LCD is built with r, g, b elements oriented in 
>such a way that, using it in landscape mode, would result in 
>color artifacts.
>
>The 3D content should be rendered with the "interlace" mode, 
>that is odd lines for one eye and even lines for the other 
>one: the lenticular bends the rays so that one eye can see 
>just odd lines, and the other can see just even ones. This 
>brings a glasses-free true-colour nice-resolution deep image. 
>For moving images (videos) the perceived effect is even more 
>impressive.
>
>Because of the fact that the lenticular requires high quality 
>and pixel-perfect construction, it's obviuous we can't build 
>them with our knife ;)  Only big companies can afford buying 
>thousands of pieces to lenticular manufacturers, giving their 
>own specifications.
>
>Apart from this "little" problem, if someone could provide and 
>sell these lenticulars, Nokia or 3rd parties, they sure would 
>be rather cheap (it's just a little transparent plastic 
>rectangle, after all), no more than 10$ (and I think I'm 
>exagerating), but they could really add a new dimension to the 
>device (he he :)
>
>Of course this approach requires just one person viewing at 
>the screen, and a specific distance of the tablet from the 
>eyes, which are pretty simple requirements to follow for a 
>portable device user (the lenticular can be done in such a way 
>that the distance is reasonable).
>
>Oh, a quick hack to "experiment" without a lenticular, which I 
>have done:  
>print black vertical lines on a transparent paper, put a 
>transparent plastic rectangle on the tablet display, and put 
>the printed paper on it.  
>IT REQUIRES A LOT OF TRIAL AND ERROR EXPERIMENTATION to find 
>the correct size and distances for the lines to print, so I 
>really can't suggest doing this, but when you get it and try 
>to view a well done 3D picture "remapped" with the interlace 
>method described above, you can't avoid obtaining a lot of 
>"WOW" from everyone staring at it.
>
>--
>Antonio
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