Re: N800 Power Problems

[Paul Dundas]

Marius Gedminas wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 11:01:18AM +0300, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote:
>> On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 12:44 +0100, ext Frederik Ferner wrote:
>>
>>> In my case, I cannot seen any obvious signs but most of the time I plug
>>> the device into power it doesn't even start charging. I managed to start
>>> charging it with a few attempts usually. Today I don't seem to have any
>>> luck, best I got was that it started to charge but by the time I've put
>>> it back on the table and looked again it seems to have stopped charging
>>> again. 
>> Try with another charger, it could be a broken plug too..? I had one
>> plug break internally I think, when I tripped over the cord once,
>> sending the whole shebang flying around pretty nicely.. :-]
>>
>> The device was fine, and charges ok with another charger, but that one
>> plug is not working reliably anymore.
> 
> I had one charger that I carried around in my backpack and once in my
> pocket.  I guess the cord didn't like the bending too much, as now it no
> longer charges reliably.  Moving it a bit on the AC plug end sometimes
> helps.  A friend with a soldering iron fixed it for me, and now I don't
> carry it around any more.

I had a similar problem - my N800 charger has an abnormally thin cable,
which is very easily damaged by normal use. I got a new Nokia mobile
phone, and its charger had a much more robust cable. Problem solved.

I took the N800 into the local Nokia service centre, on the off chance.
They said "that is not on our list of phones" and added that they
would have to send it off to Nokia - even though you could see the
copper sticking through the charger cable. Needless to say, I
declined their kind offer.

Presumably under the sale of goods act (in UK at least) Nokia should
replace the charger. Any bright ideas about how to get that to
happen, cheaply and quickly?

Paul Dundas
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Re: N800 Power Problems

[Mike Klein]

James Knott wrote:
> Ryan Pavlik wrote:
>   
>> James Knott wrote:
>> 
>>> Mike Klein wrote:
>>>   
>
>   
>  
>   
 Do NOT buy a new chargerat least for me I've found "usb"
 recharging more versatile...I only use AC for my tabletpcthe big
 guns...all else is in orbit around it.
 
 
>>> Does the N800 charge from the USB cable?
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> No.
>>
>>
>> 
> That's what I thought.  The post I replied to threw in a lot of claims
> and so on, but nothing sensible.
>
>
>   
I'll think twice before posting such "nonsense" again
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Re: N800 Power Problems

[Mike Klein]

Ryan Pavlik wrote:
> James Knott wrote:
>   
>> Mike Klein wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Frederik Ferner wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
 On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 11:01:18AM +0300, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote:
   
   
 
> On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 12:44 +0100, ext Frederik Ferner wrote:
>
> 
> 
>   
>> In my case, I cannot seen any obvious signs but most of the time I plug
>> the device into power it doesn't even start charging. I managed to start
>> charging it with a few attempts usually. Today I don't seem to have any
>> luck, best I got was that it started to charge but by the time I've put
>> it back on the table and looked again it seems to have stopped charging
>> again. 
>>   
>>   
>> 
> Try with another charger, it could be a broken plug too..? I had one
> plug break internally I think, when I tripped over the cord once,
> sending the whole shebang flying around pretty nicely.. :-]
>
> The device was fine, and charges ok with another charger, but that one
> plug is not working reliably anymore.
> 
> 
>   
 Thanks, yes my N800 is indeed still fine but the charger (or more likely
 the cord) is broken. Unfortunately I don't have any other new style
 charger around, i.e. the one with the smaller plug.

 I guess, I'll have to get a new charger...

 Kind regards,
 Frederik
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>>> Do NOT buy a new chargerat least for me I've found "usb"
>>> recharging more versatile...I only use AC for my tabletpcthe big
>>> guns...all else is in orbit around it.
>>> 
>>>   
>> Does the N800 charge from the USB cable?
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
> No.
>
>
>   
Yes it does. Notice how "usb" is in quotes? I use the cablebut not
the port on the N800. Cable is split. USB recharging...but not via usb port.
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Re: N800 Power Problems

[Austin Che]

James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cackled crazily:

> Ryan Pavlik wrote:
>> James Knott wrote:
>>> Mike Klein wrote:
>
 Do NOT buy a new chargerat least for me I've found "usb"
 recharging more versatile...I only use AC for my tabletpcthe big
 guns...all else is in orbit around it.
>>> Does the N800 charge from the USB cable?
>> No.
> That's what I thought.  The post I replied to threw in a lot of claims
> and so on, but nothing sensible.

He was not saying that you should charge the N800 via its USB port
but rather that you can use a USB charger, i.e. a cable that has
USB on one end and a power adapter plug on the other end to plug
into the standard power port of the N800. With such a cable, you
can charge the device with anything that provides USB power, such
as a computer, wall or car adapters, battery packs, etc. I
personally use Proporta's USB mobile device charger which is
basically a battery with USB output to charge my N800.
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Re: N800 Power Problems

[James Knott]

Ryan Pavlik wrote:
> James Knott wrote:
>> Mike Klein wrote:

  
>>> Do NOT buy a new chargerat least for me I've found "usb"
>>> recharging more versatile...I only use AC for my tabletpcthe big
>>> guns...all else is in orbit around it.
>>> 
>>
>> Does the N800 charge from the USB cable?
>>
>>
>>   
> No.
>
>
That's what I thought.  The post I replied to threw in a lot of claims
and so on, but nothing sensible.


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Re: N800 Power Problems

[Ryan Pavlik]

James Knott wrote:
> Mike Klein wrote:
>   
>> Frederik Ferner wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 11:01:18AM +0300, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
 On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 12:44 +0100, ext Frederik Ferner wrote:

 
 
> In my case, I cannot seen any obvious signs but most of the time I plug
> the device into power it doesn't even start charging. I managed to start
> charging it with a few attempts usually. Today I don't seem to have any
> luck, best I got was that it started to charge but by the time I've put
> it back on the table and looked again it seems to have stopped charging
> again. 
>   
>   
 Try with another charger, it could be a broken plug too..? I had one
 plug break internally I think, when I tripped over the cord once,
 sending the whole shebang flying around pretty nicely.. :-]

 The device was fine, and charges ok with another charger, but that one
 plug is not working reliably anymore.
 
 
>>> Thanks, yes my N800 is indeed still fine but the charger (or more likely
>>> the cord) is broken. Unfortunately I don't have any other new style
>>> charger around, i.e. the one with the smaller plug.
>>>
>>> I guess, I'll have to get a new charger...
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Frederik
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>> Do NOT buy a new chargerat least for me I've found "usb"
>> recharging more versatile...I only use AC for my tabletpcthe big
>> guns...all else is in orbit around it.
>> 
>
> Does the N800 charge from the USB cable?
>
>
>   
No.


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Re: N800 Power Problems

[James Knott]

Mike Klein wrote:
> Frederik Ferner wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 11:01:18AM +0300, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote:
>>   
>>> On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 12:44 +0100, ext Frederik Ferner wrote:
>>>
>>> 
 In my case, I cannot seen any obvious signs but most of the time I plug
 the device into power it doesn't even start charging. I managed to start
 charging it with a few attempts usually. Today I don't seem to have any
 luck, best I got was that it started to charge but by the time I've put
 it back on the table and looked again it seems to have stopped charging
 again. 
   
>>> Try with another charger, it could be a broken plug too..? I had one
>>> plug break internally I think, when I tripped over the cord once,
>>> sending the whole shebang flying around pretty nicely.. :-]
>>>
>>> The device was fine, and charges ok with another charger, but that one
>>> plug is not working reliably anymore.
>>> 
>>
>> Thanks, yes my N800 is indeed still fine but the charger (or more likely
>> the cord) is broken. Unfortunately I don't have any other new style
>> charger around, i.e. the one with the smaller plug.
>>
>> I guess, I'll have to get a new charger...
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Frederik
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> Do NOT buy a new chargerat least for me I've found "usb"
> recharging more versatile...I only use AC for my tabletpcthe big
> guns...all else is in orbit around it.

Does the N800 charge from the USB cable?


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Re: N800 Power Problems

[Mike Klein]

Frederik Ferner wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 11:01:18AM +0300, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote:
>   
>> On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 12:44 +0100, ext Frederik Ferner wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> In my case, I cannot seen any obvious signs but most of the time I plug
>>> the device into power it doesn't even start charging. I managed to start
>>> charging it with a few attempts usually. Today I don't seem to have any
>>> luck, best I got was that it started to charge but by the time I've put
>>> it back on the table and looked again it seems to have stopped charging
>>> again. 
>>>   
>> Try with another charger, it could be a broken plug too..? I had one
>> plug break internally I think, when I tripped over the cord once,
>> sending the whole shebang flying around pretty nicely.. :-]
>>
>> The device was fine, and charges ok with another charger, but that one
>> plug is not working reliably anymore.
>> 
>
> Thanks, yes my N800 is indeed still fine but the charger (or more likely
> the cord) is broken. Unfortunately I don't have any other new style
> charger around, i.e. the one with the smaller plug.
>
> I guess, I'll have to get a new charger...
>
> Kind regards,
> Frederik
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Do NOT buy a new chargerat least for me I've found "usb" recharging
more versatile...I only use AC for my tabletpcthe big guns...all
else is in orbit around it.

Look into VEC414S (100w inverter w/usb and 3-prong size of cigarette
pack!) . It's like $42...a steal.

http://www.amazon.com/VECTOR-VEC414S-MICROSLIM-POWER-INVERTER/dp/B000KKMSDM

Also check out Boxwave's miniSync (for Nokia E62...same voltage as N800)
and VersaCharger PRO (w/airplane option).

http://www.boxwave.com/products/minisync/minisync-retractable-cable-nokia-e62_2097.htm
http://www.boxwave.com/products/bundles/airplaneconverter-versacharger-pro/index.htm

You must use "special" cable for most devices...sigh. One would hope
mini-usb would do it...but you must get special cable doing some pin
swapping.

Lastly (haven't bought this yet) check out Tumi's "Ultra Slim Universal
Power Adaptor Kit".

http://www.tumi.com/wallets_accessories/electronic_accessories/category_search/ultra_slim_universal_power_adaptor_kit/product_detail/index.cfm?modelid=83777

With combination of these items (at least first two) I'm pretty well set
for recharging my pdas, bt headphones, cameras, etc. Having 3rd item
(universal ps) just means I can mix things up a bit more.

To sync multiple items I have several "micro/mini" usb hubs...here are 2
smallest usb hubs I've found:

http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-U222-004-R-Bus-Powered-Ultra-Mini/dp/B92YOU/ref=sr_1_1/103-3857429-6614210?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1188353562&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/5PORT-Hub-Adapter-Hi-speed-Mobility/dp/B0009B0F6E/ref=sr_1_1/103-3857429-6614210?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1188353624&sr=8-1


Tripp-lite is smallest but is less likely to "lay down" and look as
clean as slightly larger 5Port though.


mike

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Re: N800 Power Problems

[Frederik Ferner]

On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 11:01:18AM +0300, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 12:44 +0100, ext Frederik Ferner wrote:
> 
> > In my case, I cannot seen any obvious signs but most of the time I plug
> > the device into power it doesn't even start charging. I managed to start
> > charging it with a few attempts usually. Today I don't seem to have any
> > luck, best I got was that it started to charge but by the time I've put
> > it back on the table and looked again it seems to have stopped charging
> > again. 
> 
> Try with another charger, it could be a broken plug too..? I had one
> plug break internally I think, when I tripped over the cord once,
> sending the whole shebang flying around pretty nicely.. :-]
> 
> The device was fine, and charges ok with another charger, but that one
> plug is not working reliably anymore.

Thanks, yes my N800 is indeed still fine but the charger (or more likely
the cord) is broken. Unfortunately I don't have any other new style
charger around, i.e. the one with the smaller plug.

I guess, I'll have to get a new charger...

Kind regards,
Frederik
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Re: N800 Power Problems

[Marius Gedminas]

On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 11:01:18AM +0300, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 12:44 +0100, ext Frederik Ferner wrote:
> 
> > In my case, I cannot seen any obvious signs but most of the time I plug
> > the device into power it doesn't even start charging. I managed to start
> > charging it with a few attempts usually. Today I don't seem to have any
> > luck, best I got was that it started to charge but by the time I've put
> > it back on the table and looked again it seems to have stopped charging
> > again. 
> 
> Try with another charger, it could be a broken plug too..? I had one
> plug break internally I think, when I tripped over the cord once,
> sending the whole shebang flying around pretty nicely.. :-]
> 
> The device was fine, and charges ok with another charger, but that one
> plug is not working reliably anymore.

I had one charger that I carried around in my backpack and once in my
pocket.  I guess the cord didn't like the bending too much, as now it no
longer charges reliably.  Moving it a bit on the AC plug end sometimes
helps.  A friend with a soldering iron fixed it for me, and now I don't
carry it around any more.

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Re: N800 Power Problems

[Tuomas Kuosmanen]

On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 12:44 +0100, ext Frederik Ferner wrote:

> In my case, I cannot seen any obvious signs but most of the time I plug
> the device into power it doesn't even start charging. I managed to start
> charging it with a few attempts usually. Today I don't seem to have any
> luck, best I got was that it started to charge but by the time I've put
> it back on the table and looked again it seems to have stopped charging
> again. 

Try with another charger, it could be a broken plug too..? I had one
plug break internally I think, when I tripped over the cord once,
sending the whole shebang flying around pretty nicely.. :-]

The device was fine, and charges ok with another charger, but that one
plug is not working reliably anymore.

//Tuomas


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Re: N800 Power Problems

[Frederik Ferner]

Hi Nils,

On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 02:31:37PM +0200, Nils Faerber wrote:
> Umm... just a quick question to all:
> Are you sure that the N800 is at fault and not the charger?
> 
> We have seen quite some failures with the new charger cables - the
> little lighter grey and more stiff cables. There it quite frequently
> happens that the cable breaks directly near the case of the charger. Try
> to wiggle it there a little and if it starts again, then the charger is
> broken, not the N800.

Spot on.

Even thought the plug seems to be a bit loose in the n800, I have much
more luck in starting the charge process if I wiggle the cable on the
charger side. 

Time to get the charger replaced...

Many thanks,
Frederik
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Re: N800 Power Problems

[Frederik Ferner]

Hi Alan,

On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 10:23:44AM +0100, Alan Williamson wrote:
> Anyone else experiencing problems with their power connector?

I started to experience problems with my power connector this week.

> Mine is showing signs of wear, with it not always registering.

Do you see any visible signs of wear or is it just not always
registering? 

In my case, I cannot seen any obvious signs but most of the time I plug
the device into power it doesn't even start charging. I managed to start
charging it with a few attempts usually. Today I don't seem to have any
luck, best I got was that it started to charge but by the time I've put
it back on the table and looked again it seems to have stopped charging
again. 

> the device has not been plugged in and out no where near the times i 
> would expect.  it is only a few months old!!!

Only a few months and I would not think I'm that much of power user...

Frederik

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Re: N800 Power Problems

[Alan Williamson]

> Do you see any visible signs of wear or is it just not always
> registering? 

no, not a single one.  what annoys me the most is that the device is not
plugged in anywhere near like my mobile phone, so really, after only a
few months, its completely bang out of order for a shody workmanship.

I will be expecting a unit replacement from Nokia if this continues;
except what p*sses me off the most is that its not a simple case of
switching in and out due to the amount of data/apps i have installed on it.

The N800 has definitely lost its shine for me.

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Re: N800 Power Problems

[DrFredC.com]

  I had to return my n800 in July for service after it wouldn't boot up 
any more.  I couldn't figure out if it was a power connector problem, 
battery connection problem or what.  After a while of not booting every 
time right away, it stopped booting up at all, or bricked out during 
normal use.  So I sent it in for service.  As I understand it, a 
replacement is ready for me to pick up at the Post Office.

  I guess the bottomline is it took almost a month to get it back from 
warranty service.  Kind of longer than the web site says (7-10 working 
days).  Oh well, staring at it with hopeful thoughts about it booting up 
wasn't going to bring it back to life. 

Alan Williamson wrote:
> Anyone else experiencing problems with their power connector?
>
> Mine is showing signs of wear, with it not always registering.
>
> the device has not been plugged in and out no where near the times i 
> would expect.  it is only a few months old!!!
>
>
>   

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