Re: [SPAM?] Re: Wifi vrs Bluetooth power = maemo mapper experience

2007-04-13 Thread Jonathan Greene

I use the Nokia LD-3W which is a SiRF chipset, but there's no display
and no way to select options I'm aware of...

Maemo is OK for me... My main issue is retaining the GPS connection --
not to mention the cellular connection around my house as there are
big dark areas without coverage.

I wish Maemo was better for Point to Point Navigation, rather than
you are here.  The NavKit looks cool, but it's going to be $239 here
in the US which is a lot considering similar applications on S60 are
more like $99 - though annually.  Even with a 1GB card, it seems way
overpriced.

On 4/13/07, Michel Brabants [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

I wasn't downloading maps automatically. I didn't have all the locations
cached. Only around the area where I started I did have the roads cached. I
wouldn't want to enable auto-download when I'm mapping, because it will crash
maemo-mapper when I want to save the track then (I openened 2 bugs at the
maemo-mapper-tracker). It sometimes indeed moves a little bit when standing
still. It will depend on your gps-receiver probably. The sirf-ones have to be
set in a special mode when you're walking (going slowly, ..). Else they may
jump some metres or so sudenly, I thought. Normally mine (mtk-chipset), there
isn't such an option and it should work well always. I want to promote it a
little bit indeed :). Maemo-mapper is a nice program, but it crashes too much
to my taste. I would like to adapt it or write a new program to make it
(also) more suitable for openstreetmap-mapping.

Greetings,

Michel

Op Friday 13 April 2007, schreef Jonathan Greene:
 were you downloading maps on the go over cellular or had you cached in
 advance?

 I find Maemo (or perhaps my GPS) seems to think I am moving at times
 when I am sitting still -- like at my desk.  With tracks on, I can see
 my location float a bit...  otherwise, it's a very cool program.

 On 4/12/07, Michel Brabants [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
 
   I just had a trip to Frankfurt for my company and took the  N800 with
  me. I used it to map the road and a colleague used it to browse the web
  for a second (ebay). I looked at the screen from time to time, ... The
  trip took around 3 hours, but I also used it during the evening to get
  some food and back and also to go to the hotel. In total maybe around 5
  hours for mapping and looking where to go (Tomtom failed at a moment and
  we didn't know that a reset would help ... and radio-navigationsystem
  doesn't have precise maps of Germany. So, 2 gps-systems and maemo-mapper
  to the rescue :).). Anyway, I'm very pleased of battery-time. I didn't
  use Wlan really yet however. So, I can't comment on the Wlan. For the
  rest, I'm very happy up till now to have bought the device.
 
  Greetings,
 
  Michel
 
  Op Thursday 12 April 2007, schreef Laurent GUERBY:
   FWIW, my globalsat BT-359 GPS linked via bluetooth to my N800 running
   maemo mapper on during a whole Paris-Toulouse-Castres TGV (high speed
   train) trip ran on one charge taking 19910 data points from
   2007-04-06T08:25:02+02:00 to 2007-04-06T15:11:46+02:00 so a bit less
   than 7 hours, resulting .gpx file is 2.6MB for about one data point per
   second. I turned the N800 off with one bar left when I reached the end
   of my trip.
  
   I turned on the screen from time to time to see the speed of the train
   so this is not a bluetooth only check, and maemo mapper was
   running of course.
  
   The only thing is that I had to switch sound off because top
   speed warning in maemo mapper is limited to 300 km/hour and the TGV is
   sometimes above it during the trip :).
  
   All in all I assume bluetooth doesn't consume that much.
  
   Let us know your experience.
  
   Laurent
   http://guerby.org/blog/
  
   On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 12:37 +0900, Brenton Bills wrote:
Greetings folks,
   
Well there has been a bit of talk on WIFI power usage for the N800,
just wondering if it uses less power than bluetooth or the same or
what? Also wondering if the N800 can listen to bluetooth requests
while in sleep mode or if that would just kill the battery too quick
or even if thats possible? I was thinking of seeing how difficult it
would be to be to push say nagios alerts to the N800 over bluetooth
and cause it to wake up if it gets such a request? Pushing stuff from
my computer to the N800 would be cool.
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Re: Wifi vrs Bluetooth power = maemo mapper experience

2007-04-12 Thread Laurent GUERBY
FWIW, my globalsat BT-359 GPS linked via bluetooth to my N800 running
maemo mapper on during a whole Paris-Toulouse-Castres TGV (high speed
train) trip ran on one charge taking 19910 data points from
2007-04-06T08:25:02+02:00 to 2007-04-06T15:11:46+02:00 so a bit less
than 7 hours, resulting .gpx file is 2.6MB for about one data point per
second. I turned the N800 off with one bar left when I reached the end
of my trip.

I turned on the screen from time to time to see the speed of the train
so this is not a bluetooth only check, and maemo mapper was
running of course.

The only thing is that I had to switch sound off because top
speed warning in maemo mapper is limited to 300 km/hour and the TGV is
sometimes above it during the trip :).

All in all I assume bluetooth doesn't consume that much.

Let us know your experience.

Laurent
http://guerby.org/blog/

On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 12:37 +0900, Brenton Bills wrote:
 Greetings folks,
 
 Well there has been a bit of talk on WIFI power usage for the N800,
 just wondering if it uses less power than bluetooth or the same or
 what? Also wondering if the N800 can listen to bluetooth requests
 while in sleep mode or if that would just kill the battery too quick
 or even if thats possible? I was thinking of seeing how difficult it
 would be to be to push say nagios alerts to the N800 over bluetooth
 and cause it to wake up if it gets such a request? Pushing stuff from
 my computer to the N800 would be cool.
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Re: Wifi vrs Bluetooth power = maemo mapper experience

2007-04-12 Thread Michel Brabants
Hello,

 I just had a trip to Frankfurt for my company and took the  N800 with me. I 
used it to map the road and a colleague used it to browse the web for a 
second (ebay). I looked at the screen from time to time, ... The trip took 
around 3 hours, but I also used it during the evening to get some food and 
back and also to go to the hotel. In total maybe around 5 hours for mapping 
and looking where to go (Tomtom failed at a moment and we didn't know that a 
reset would help ... and radio-navigationsystem doesn't have precise maps of 
Germany. So, 2 gps-systems and maemo-mapper to the rescue :).). Anyway, I'm 
very pleased of battery-time. I didn't use Wlan really yet however. So, I 
can't comment on the Wlan. For the rest, I'm very happy up till now to have 
bought the device.

Greetings,

Michel

Op Thursday 12 April 2007, schreef Laurent GUERBY:
 FWIW, my globalsat BT-359 GPS linked via bluetooth to my N800 running
 maemo mapper on during a whole Paris-Toulouse-Castres TGV (high speed
 train) trip ran on one charge taking 19910 data points from
 2007-04-06T08:25:02+02:00 to 2007-04-06T15:11:46+02:00 so a bit less
 than 7 hours, resulting .gpx file is 2.6MB for about one data point per
 second. I turned the N800 off with one bar left when I reached the end
 of my trip.

 I turned on the screen from time to time to see the speed of the train
 so this is not a bluetooth only check, and maemo mapper was
 running of course.

 The only thing is that I had to switch sound off because top
 speed warning in maemo mapper is limited to 300 km/hour and the TGV is
 sometimes above it during the trip :).

 All in all I assume bluetooth doesn't consume that much.

 Let us know your experience.

 Laurent
 http://guerby.org/blog/

 On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 12:37 +0900, Brenton Bills wrote:
  Greetings folks,
 
  Well there has been a bit of talk on WIFI power usage for the N800,
  just wondering if it uses less power than bluetooth or the same or
  what? Also wondering if the N800 can listen to bluetooth requests
  while in sleep mode or if that would just kill the battery too quick
  or even if thats possible? I was thinking of seeing how difficult it
  would be to be to push say nagios alerts to the N800 over bluetooth
  and cause it to wake up if it gets such a request? Pushing stuff from
  my computer to the N800 would be cool.
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Re: Wifi vrs Bluetooth power = maemo mapper experience

2007-04-12 Thread Jonathan Greene

were you downloading maps on the go over cellular or had you cached in advance?

I find Maemo (or perhaps my GPS) seems to think I am moving at times
when I am sitting still -- like at my desk.  With tracks on, I can see
my location float a bit...  otherwise, it's a very cool program.

On 4/12/07, Michel Brabants [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

 I just had a trip to Frankfurt for my company and took the  N800 with me. I
used it to map the road and a colleague used it to browse the web for a
second (ebay). I looked at the screen from time to time, ... The trip took
around 3 hours, but I also used it during the evening to get some food and
back and also to go to the hotel. In total maybe around 5 hours for mapping
and looking where to go (Tomtom failed at a moment and we didn't know that a
reset would help ... and radio-navigationsystem doesn't have precise maps of
Germany. So, 2 gps-systems and maemo-mapper to the rescue :).). Anyway, I'm
very pleased of battery-time. I didn't use Wlan really yet however. So, I
can't comment on the Wlan. For the rest, I'm very happy up till now to have
bought the device.

Greetings,

Michel

Op Thursday 12 April 2007, schreef Laurent GUERBY:
 FWIW, my globalsat BT-359 GPS linked via bluetooth to my N800 running
 maemo mapper on during a whole Paris-Toulouse-Castres TGV (high speed
 train) trip ran on one charge taking 19910 data points from
 2007-04-06T08:25:02+02:00 to 2007-04-06T15:11:46+02:00 so a bit less
 than 7 hours, resulting .gpx file is 2.6MB for about one data point per
 second. I turned the N800 off with one bar left when I reached the end
 of my trip.

 I turned on the screen from time to time to see the speed of the train
 so this is not a bluetooth only check, and maemo mapper was
 running of course.

 The only thing is that I had to switch sound off because top
 speed warning in maemo mapper is limited to 300 km/hour and the TGV is
 sometimes above it during the trip :).

 All in all I assume bluetooth doesn't consume that much.

 Let us know your experience.

 Laurent
 http://guerby.org/blog/

 On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 12:37 +0900, Brenton Bills wrote:
  Greetings folks,
 
  Well there has been a bit of talk on WIFI power usage for the N800,
  just wondering if it uses less power than bluetooth or the same or
  what? Also wondering if the N800 can listen to bluetooth requests
  while in sleep mode or if that would just kill the battery too quick
  or even if thats possible? I was thinking of seeing how difficult it
  would be to be to push say nagios alerts to the N800 over bluetooth
  and cause it to wake up if it gets such a request? Pushing stuff from
  my computer to the N800 would be cool.
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