Re: [Mailman-Users] why can't othe people see the listinfo/ page?

2001-10-12 Thread Jon Carnes

- Original Message -
From: Dan Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 This, by the way, is explicitly and completely documented in
 the files you should have read before installing Mailman, and
 reread before asking the mailing list...

Indeed it is Dan.  In fact over half the questions I see are answered in the
README or INSTALL docs for Mailman... and a good part of the other half are
answered in the Archives of this list.  Still, if Mailman is to gain
dominance in the world, it needs a user-based support group that is willing
to answer such questions.

A major part of the value of an Open Source package is the ease and speed
with which it can be installed and configured properly.  Please do keep
telling folks to read the manuals, but please add a bit more help if
possible.  For instance, you might want to create a Draft email that points
folks to a Current documentation source, and also provides a links to the
Searchable archives and the FAQ.

Take care - Jon Carnes


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[Mailman-Users] email can't reach member of mailing list

2001-10-12 Thread Beni Santoso



Hi list,

I am newbie in mailman. I have installed mailman in Trustix Linux OS, with MTA postfix 
and web server Apache.The problem is why a member oflist send 
email to list example : [EMAIL PROTECTED]. 
Email can be received by [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
but can not be received by entire member of this list. May Anybody help 
me?


Regards,

Beni


[Mailman-Users] email cannot received by member of list

2001-10-12 Thread Beni Santoso



Hi 
list,I am newbie in mailman. I have installed mailman in Trustix 
Linux OS, =with MTA postfix and web server Apache. The problem is why 
a member of =list send email to list example : [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Email can 
be received =by [EMAIL PROTECTED], but can not be received by entire member of this 
=list. May Anybody help 
me?Regards,Beni


[Mailman-Users] Apparent message lossage

2001-10-12 Thread Nigel Metheringham

The mailman installation on exim.org has been running for quite some
time now, with no recent changes or problems.  The MTA (you could guess
that we use exim) is also stable.

However this morning I posted a message to the exim-users list.
It left my machine, got to exim.org, and was delivered down a pipe to
the mailman wrapper, returning a success code.   At that point the
message seems to have disappeared - there is no sign on it in any of the
mailman logs, no stuck processes, no strange files in the directories...

We run Mailman 2.0.6 with exim 3.33.

Nigel.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Apparent message lossage

2001-10-12 Thread NightFlight

On October 12, 2001 06:14 am, Nigel Metheringham wrote:
 The mailman installation on exim.org has been running for quite some
 time now, with no recent changes or problems.  The MTA (you could guess
 that we use exim) is also stable.

 However this morning I posted a message to the exim-users list.
 It left my machine, got to exim.org, and was delivered down a pipe to
 the mailman wrapper, returning a success code.   At that point the
 message seems to have disappeared - there is no sign on it in any of the
 mailman logs, no stuck processes, no strange files in the directories...

 We run Mailman 2.0.6 with exim 3.33.

   Nigel.

As a guess, (I'm a newbie) check out your mail queue.
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[Mailman-Users] RTFM

2001-10-12 Thread Regrettable Error

Michael,

With respect, I disagree. 

It's one thing to read a civil request such as Please read the FAQ and manual at 
URL before asking questions here. It's quite another to go through the FAQ, the 
manual, a Google search, and a reinstall before asking a question on a mailing list - 
and then having to endure the sarcastic, churlish, infantile taunts I got from a 
certain list member who has wannabe written between the lines on all of his posts.

Mailing list software setup is complicated from the start; more so because it requries 
expertise in several different areas that Linux newbies don't often have: MTA setup 
and configuration, compiler options, library maintenance, group/user permissions, and 
cron. A lot can go wrong, and the installation HOWTO's are written by volunteers whom 
often lapse into technocratese during their explanations.

Let's remember that the objective or a users list is to help USERS, not provide an 
excuse for self-aggrandizment by the self-absorbed. Every disappointed newcomer who is 
scared off this list by abuse from a certain jackass is going to become an advocate 
for Microsoft when his employer asks for an opinion about which software to buy.

We were all new to this once. One list member has, apparently, decided to stop growing 
and start mocking those whom will soon pass him by.

FWIW. YMMV. HAND.

R-E

(flames to /dev/null - serious replies on or off list as you see fit)


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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Michael Johnson - fw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] is there any way to have Mailman NOT to send
out   monthly membership reminder?
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 22:22:22 -0700

I'm not one to fuel arguments, but I think sometimes people get a little
short when the same questions appear over and over again and people don't
even try to help themselves before seeking help from others. I'm not saying
that's what's happening here.

I really don't think RFTM is rude--it's reality. If more people did it
there'd definitely be less general confusion and that's, in fact, what the
docs are for--issues such as this. When you see how few people even BOTHER
to try to do anything correctly simply because they know they can go ask
someone else who did bother on a list, it really makes you question why
people don't use Onelist or YahooGroups or whatever they're calling
themselves these days.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Mick
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 9:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] is there any way to have Mailman NOT to
send out monthly membership reminder?



  It's not, eh?
 
  Then what do you call this, in crontab.in?
  # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders.
  0 5 1 * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
 
  RTFM indeed!  Which M did you have in mind?

 THAT, is for *every single* list on the server.  Each and every list
 has its OWN flag to turn ON or OFF the monthly reminders.  Read The FINE
 Manual.

Look, Ashley, turning off monthly membership reminders was the
question, and using the crontab entry is an answer.  It's not
a per-list answer, yes; that wasn't the question.

Ram your attitude.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] is there any way to have Mailman NOT to send out monthly membership reminder?

2001-10-12 Thread Mike Avery

On 9 Oct 2001 at 19:49, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:

 Balazs Lengyak wrote:
 
  Is there?
 
 Of course.  RTFM.

Given that the poster's email address is based in 
Hungary, it might be reasonable to assume that the 
poster is not a native English speaker.

This might be seen as a reason to show the poster 
some mercy and politely answer the question.

It could be argued that it would always be best to 
show a poster mercy and answer the question.

We're all newbies at something.  And we're all going to 
need help with things that experienced people will have 
trouble believing we don't understand.  So, for the 
kindness you will hope to receive, you should show 
kindness to others.

And with that, I'd like to thank Jon and several other 
people here for their gracious help as I have been 
getting used to Mailman.  It's a marvelous program, 
and the more I use it, the more stunned I am!

Mike
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[Mailman-Users] lists suddenly broken

2001-10-12 Thread Thierry GAGNAIRE

Hello,

[I'm French]

I have very big problems with lists that worked very well before
those problems.

I have a domain hosted by cwihosting (virtual hosting).
On my domain, I have created several lists using the mailman product.
All worked well from May 2001 to the end of September.
[I did all the apropriate configuration via the administration
interface ; for some of them I'm still the administrator,
for others I gave the administration to someone I know].

Since the beginning of October, none of these lists work anymore.
I have tried to get help from cwihosting, but their last answer
to my last request was:

There is nothing we can do as your mailing lists are working.  I have
subscribed to your list and received an email from it.  We have created a
list for you on the same account and it is working properly.  You should
check your email addresses or delete and recreate the mailing lists that are
not working on your end.


However, for all the requests I do to the hosting people
(www.cwihosting.com),
they are replying : all work fine !!

I have subscribers from different countries in Europe,
and nobody receives any mail since the beginning of October,
and nobody is able to send any mail.
I can access to the admin interface and do subscribing any email.
But new suscriber can't send mail too.
And I see nothing in the admin interface
(no request to be approved, no add to the archives even
when the hosting people told me they did a test with this list,
for example with the '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' list I gave them the
admin password, ...)
If I try to subscribe (with a new email account) via the user page,
I receive the mail asking confirmation, but replying is doing anything.

I have also tried to create new a mailing list, but the result is the same.

What can I do ??
Please help !

I suspect the problem occurs on other virtual domain on the same
machine, because I'm subscriber to a list on rcuddy.com and it doesn't
work anymore (to me) ; but the guy doesn't spend time now on Internet
(and so I can't have a confirmation from him) ...

I suspect there is a problem of DNS on this server,
but I'm not sure at all because I don't know how this works,
because when I tried (just today) to subscribe to your list
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
with an email account owned by my domain
([EMAIL PROTECTED] - account which works well everywhere else),
I can't confirm too : my reply to your ask has the following return:

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim).

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
host mail.python.org [63.102.49.29]: 550-Open relay. Please see
http://orbz.org/?209.61.186.101
550 mail from 209.61.186.101 rejected: administrative prohibition (host
is blacklisted)


This during the 2 ou 3 last hours ; and during this time I was able
to subscribe with the current email address as you see ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

What can I do to force the hosting people to open thier eyes ??
[I need VERY VERY evident prooves !]
Could you do something to help ? And/or contact them directly ??
Is there any log file I can see ?
[I have not the rights everywhere on the machine - linux -
but I have a telnet access].

Could you confirm or infirm my suppositions ?
What are the other possiblities ?

Thanks and Regards.

Thierry G.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] lists suddenly broken

2001-10-12 Thread Norbert Bollow

 TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 host mail.python.org [63.102.49.29]: 550-Open relay. Please see
 http://orbz.org/?209.61.186.101
 550 mail from 209.61.186.101 rejected: administrative prohibition (host
 is blacklisted)

[..]

 What can I do to force the hosting people to open thier eyes ??
 [I need VERY VERY evident prooves !]

http://orbz.org/?209.61.186.101

If that doesn't convince them that they have a problem, then
they're totally incompetent to host mailing lists.

 What are the other possiblities ?

Move the lists to a more competent hosting service.

Greetings, Norbert.

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[Mailman-Users] lost mail

2001-10-12 Thread Dani Rosen

I am a list administrator using mailman and everything works fine except
that once in a while one of the users (randomly - including myself) loses
one of the messages. We noticed it had nothing to do with the individual's
mail server or mail program but with mailman itself - or the server it's on.

Anyone have any clue to why this is happening and how to fix it? The loss is
about 1% on average between the subscribers and has nothing to do with
mail-filters.

Also, there are no mails in the queue.

Thanks,


Dani.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Welcome to the Mailman-Users mailing list

2001-10-12 Thread Bryn Ryans


Can anyone give me information on how to configure Mailman to work with
MHonarc (or is it the other way around?). I have both MHonarc and Mailman 
installed, but the information I have found on how to get the two to talk is 
a little sketchy.

I would appreciate any help you can give me,





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Re: [Mailman-Users] removing some lines in normal emails (mailman2.0.6)

2001-10-12 Thread Marc MERLIN

On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 06:14:25PM -0400, Greg Ward wrote:
 On 12 October 2001, Spades said:
  How do I get rid of all these headers on the mailman 2.0.6 mailing list mail?
 
 AFAIK there are only two options:
   * hack Mailman to not emit those headers
   * tweak your MTAs config to remove them

But of course, you want to do neither.

http://www.list.org/MM21/faq.html

Q. My list members are complaining  about Mailman's List-* headers! What can
I do about this?
A. These  headers  are  added  by  Mailman  for  the  long-term  benefit  of
end-users. Mailman is compliant with RFC  2369, which is where these headers
are defined. See  the file README.USERAGENT for  hints on what to  tell your
end users.


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[Mailman-Users] lists suddenly broken

2001-10-12 Thread Thierry GAGNAIRE

Hello,

[I'm French]

I have very big problems with lists that worked very well before
those problems.

I have a domain hosted by cwihosting (virtual hosting).
On my domain, I have created several lists using the mailman product.
All worked well from May 2001 to the end of September.
[I did all the apropriate configuration via the administration
interface ; for some of them I'm still the administrator,
for others I gave the administration to someone I know].

Since the beginning of October, none of these lists work anymore.
I have tried to get help from cwihosting, but their last answer
to my last request was:

There is nothing we can do as your mailing lists are working.  I have
subscribed to your list and received an email from it.  We have created a
list for you on the same account and it is working properly.  You should
check your email addresses or delete and recreate the mailing lists that are
not working on your end.


However, for all the requests I do to the hosting people
(www.cwihosting.com),
they are replying : all work fine !!

I have subscribers from different countries in Europe,
and nobody receives any mail since the beginning of October,
and nobody is able to send any mail.
I can access to the admin interface and do subscribing any email.
But new suscriber can't send mail too.
And I see nothing in the admin interface
(no request to be approved, no add to the archives even
when the hosting people told me they did a test with this list,
for example with the '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' list I gave them the
admin password, ...)
If I try to subscribe (with a new email account) via the user page,
I receive the mail asking confirmation, but replying is doing anything.

I have also tried to create new a mailing list, but the result is the same.

What can I do ??
Please help !

I suspect the problem occurs on other virtual domain on the same
machine, because I'm subscriber to a list on rcuddy.com and it doesn't
work anymore (to me) ; but the guy doesn't spend time now on Internet
(and so I can't have a confirmation from him) ...

I suspect there is a problem of DNS on this server,
but I'm not sure at all because I don't know how this works,
because when I tried (just today) to subscribe to your list
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
with an email account owned by my domain
([EMAIL PROTECTED] - account which works well everywhere else),
I can't confirm too : my reply to your ask has the following return:

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim).

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
host mail.python.org [63.102.49.29]: 550-Open relay. Please see
http://orbz.org/?209.61.186.101
550 mail from 209.61.186.101 rejected: administrative prohibition (host
is blacklisted)


This during the 2 ou 3 last hours ; and during this time I was able
to subscribe with the current email address as you see ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

What can I do to force the hosting people to open thier eyes ??
[I need VERY VERY evident prooves !]
Could you do something to help ? And/or contact them directly ??
Is there any log file I can see ?
[I have not the rights everywhere on the machine - linux -
but I have a telnet access].

Could you confirm or infirm my suppositions ?
What are the other possiblities ?

Thanks and Regards.

Thierry G.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing a list name

2001-10-12 Thread Marc MERLIN

On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 04:05:47PM -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
 Mike Avery wrote:
 
  I'd like to change the name of a Mailman hosted
  mailing list.  The only way I see to do that is to delete
  it and start over, but I really don't want to do that.
 
  Is there a clean way to rename a mailing list?
 
 I've never tried this, however others have claimed to be able to do
 this by simple renaming the aliases, renaming the list directories and
 archive names, and then setting the name correctly in the
 configuration.  I'd say backup that list before you start fiddling with
 it. :)

and running ~mailman/bin/move_list on the resulting list.

Barry posted a very exhaustive step by step set of instructions.

Read the archives.

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[Mailman-Users] new user, can't 'stat'

2001-10-12 Thread Ken

I am getting the following error:
[Fri Oct 12 17:19:48 2001] [error] [client 207.17.248.136] script not found 
or unable to stat: /var/mailman/cgi-binadmin
I have been through the INSTALL document several times.  I don't know where I 
am going wrong.  All of the permissions look right.

drwxrwsr-x   2 mailman  mailman   304 Oct 12 13:17 cgi-bin/

inside the directory:

drwxrwsr-x   2 mailman  mailman   304 Oct 12 13:17 ./
drwxrwsr-x  18 mailman  mailman   440 Oct  7 19:59 ../
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman 30690 Oct 12 13:17 admin*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman 30694 Oct 12 13:17 admindb*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman 30702 Oct 12 13:17 archives*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman 30702 Oct 12 13:17 edithtml*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman 30710 Oct 12 13:17 handle_opts*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman 30702 Oct 12 13:17 listinfo*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman 30694 Oct 12 13:17 options*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman 30694 Oct 12 13:17 private*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman 30690 Oct 12 13:17 roster*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman 30706 Oct 12 13:17 subscribe*

Slackware 7.1 with Apache.

Added the ScriptAlias, and did both the default configure and a 'nobody' 
--with-gid-cgibin

Thanks
Ken

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Re: [Mailman-Users] new user, can't 'stat'

2001-10-12 Thread Dan Mick


 I am getting the following error:
 [Fri Oct 12 17:19:48 2001] [error] [client 207.17.248.136] script not found 
 or unable to stat: /var/mailman/cgi-binadmin
 I have been through the INSTALL document several times.  I don't know where I 
 am going wrong.  All of the permissions look right.

Since the name of the directory is 'cgi-bin', the name of the script
is 'admin', and the error you're getting says 'cgi-binadmin', you can
infer you're missing a slash somewhere.  I'll bet it's in
the ScriptAlias directive.  Check the Apache docs.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] new user, can't 'stat'

2001-10-12 Thread Ken

On Friday 12 October 2001 07:47 pm, Dan Mick wrote:

 infer you're missing a slash somewhere.  I'll bet it's in
 the ScriptAlias directive.  Check the Apache docs.


OK.  Thanks.  Typo.  I keep telling myself I am going to get to bed early and 
start fresh.  Havne't made it yet. :(  Is it considered progress when you 
stumble from one error to another?

Get this error in the browser:

Bug in Mailman version 2.0

We're sorry, we hit a bug!

Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of 
traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the 
webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs.

This in the log:

 
[- Mailman Version: 2.0 -]
[- Traceback --]
Traceback (innermost last):
  File /var/mailman/scripts/driver, line 71, in run_main
immediate=1)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py, line 49, in __init__
Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 40, in __init__
self.__get_f()
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 55, in __get_f
f = self.__fp = open(self.__filename, 'a+', 1)
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/mailman/logs/error'
[- Python Information -]
sys.version= 1.5.2 (#1, May 28 2000, 18:04:10)  [GCC egcs-2.91.66 
19990314/Linux (egcs-
sys.executable = /usr/bin/python
sys.prefix = /usr
sys.exec_prefix= /usr
sys.path   = /usr
sys.platform   = linux2
[- Environment Variables -]
DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/lib/apache/htdocs
SERVER_ADDR: 216.98.192.73
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: x-gzip, gzip, identity
SERVER_PORT: 80
PATH_TRANSLATED: /var/lib/apache/vhosts/www.atmsite.org/html/test
GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1
UNIQUE_ID: O8eIdNhiwEkAAHLNCwY
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en_US, en
REMOTE_ADDR: 207.17.248.136
SERVER_NAME: www.atmsite.org
HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Alive
HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/2.2; Linux)
HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET: iso-8859-1, utf-8, *
HTTP_ACCEPT: text/*, image/jpeg, image/png, image/*, */*
REQUEST_URI: /mailman/admin/test
QUERY_STRING: 
SCRIPT_FILENAME: /var/mailman/cgi-bin/admin
PATH_INFO: /test
HTTP_HOST: www.atmsite.org
REQUEST_METHOD: GET
SERVER_SIGNATURE: ADDRESSApache/1.3.19 Server at www.atmsite.org 
Port 80/ADDRESS

SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/admin
SERVER_ADMIN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.19 (Unix) PHP/4.0.4pl1
PYTHONPATH: /var/mailman
SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1
REMOTE_PORT: 33253

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[Mailman-Users] web interface not working...

2001-10-12 Thread Ralph Forsythe

Ok, quick system info: Server is a Cobalt Raq3i running Linux
(glibc). Python is version 2.0.1. Other info, the mailman
home directory is '/usr/local/mailman'. Scriptalias and other
apache config was done per the docs.
When I view the page for the list (creatively titled in this case) at the
following URL, I get the message below it:

http://xyz.xyz.com/mailman/admin/pissoff
(domain changed since this is an open list)
Bug in Mailman version 2.0.6
We're sorry, we hit a bug!
Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of
traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but
the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. 

Now, the mailman logs don't show anything. However the httpd error
log shows the following output (below), which makes me think there is
some kind of permission thing going on. I compiled with the proper
mail-gid and cgi-gid bits as far as I know... Does anyone have an
idea as to what might be causing this? (I searched in vain in the
archives, but may have missed something...) And I did RTFM, didn't
see anything like this in there. Thanks!


[- Mailman Version: 2.0.6 -]
[- Traceback --]
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 71, in
run_main
 immediate=1)
 File
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py, line 49,
in __init__
 Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail,
immediate)
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py,
line 40, in __init__
 self.__get_f()
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py,
line 55, in __get_f
 f = self.__fp = open(self.__filename, 'a+', 1)
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/usr/local/mailman/logs/error'
[- Python Information -]
sys.version = 2.0.1 (#1, Oct 12 2001, 14:26:18)
[GCC egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)]
sys.executable = /usr/bin/python
sys.prefix = /usr/local
sys.exec_prefix= /usr/local
sys.path = /usr/local
sys.platform = linux2
[- Environment Variables -]
 DOCUMENT_ROOT:
/home/sites/home/web
 UNIQUE_ID:
O8es78yFt28AAAlDDvE
 HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip,
deflate
 SERVER_PORT: 80
 PATH_TRANSLATED:
/home/sites/home/web/pissoff
 REMOTE_ADDR: 
63.227.8.161
 HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE:
en-us
 GATEWAY_INTERFACE:
CGI/1.1
 SERVER_NAME:
blue.centerone.com
 HTTP_CONNECTION:
Keep-Alive
 HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.0
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)
 HTTP_ACCEPT: */*
 REQUEST_URI:
/mailman/admin/pissoff
 QUERY_STRING:
 SCRIPT_FILENAME:
/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin
 SCRIPT_URL:
/mailman/admin/pissoff
 HTTP_HOST:
blue.centerone.com
 REQUEST_METHOD: GET
 SERVER_SIGNATURE:
 SCRIPT_URI:
http://blue.centerone.com/mailman/admin/pissoff
 SCRIPT_NAME:
/mailman/admin
 SERVER_ADMIN: admin
 SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.6
(Unix) mod_perl/1.21 mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.2b
 PYTHONPATH:
/usr/local/mailman
 PATH_INFO: /pissoff
 SERVER_PROTOCOL: 
HTTP/1.1
 REMOTE_PORT: 17721



Re: [Mailman-Users] web interface not working...

2001-10-12 Thread Dan Mick


 Now, the mailman logs don't show anything.  However the httpd error log 
 shows the following output (below), which makes me think there is some kind 
 of permission thing going on.  

Yes, certainly.  So surely the permissions on /usr/local/mailman/logs/error
are gonna be interesting, yes?

So..um...what are they?

They oughta be group-write mailman, because error lives in
a directory that ought to be group-sticky mailman...


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Re: [Mailman-Users] web interface not working...

2001-10-12 Thread Ralph Forsythe

Permissions on the logs dir are admin:mailman.  (admin was the acct used to 
install the program.)  Permissions on the error logfile are mailman:mailman 
-- this seems like it would work, yes?  Both the dir and file are U+G 
writeable.

Oh, sorry for the HTML on the previous post.  Didn't think that coped over...

Thanks,
- Ralph

At 08:07 PM 10/12/2001 -0700, you wrote:

  Now, the mailman logs don't show anything.  However the httpd error log
  shows the following output (below), which makes me think there is some 
 kind
  of permission thing going on.

Yes, certainly.  So surely the permissions on /usr/local/mailman/logs/error
are gonna be interesting, yes?

So..um...what are they?

They oughta be group-write mailman, because error lives in
a directory that ought to be group-sticky mailman...


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[Mailman-Users] I'm new - HELP

2001-10-12 Thread Miss Lala



Ok, so I am just starting this email thing. 
I have a mailman list on my site, and I list this address as the admin 
address. However,when I send a message from this address, it got held up for an 
approval...from me!! How do I send a message and check archives and do all of 
that as the Admin, and not as a subscriber?

Sorry if this is a "simple" question, but I am 
new.

lalawww.thePoetsLounge.net


[Mailman-Users] 'import date' error

2001-10-12 Thread webfoot

I am a new member.  First post.

After completing mailman install, I get the following error from trying to
access the listinfo:

[- Mailman Version: 2.0.6 -]
[- Traceback --]
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /home/mailman/scripts/driver, line 66, in run_main
from Mailman.Logging.StampedLogger import StampedLogger
  File ../Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py, line 19, in ?
import date
ImportError: No module named date
[- Python Information -]
sys.version= 2.2a4 (#1, Oct 11 2001, 20:34:33)
[GCC 2.95.2 2220 (Debian GNU/Linux)]
sys.executable = /home/mailman/Python-2.2a4/python
sys.prefix = /usr/local
sys.exec_prefix= /usr/local
sys.path   = /usr/local
sys.platform   = linux2
[- Environment Variables -]
 HTTP_PRAGMA: no-cache
 PYTHONPATH: /home/mailman
 SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) Debian/GNU
 SCRIPT_FILENAME: /home/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo

Apparently can't find the module 'time'.  Is this a Python module?

TIA

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[Mailman-Users] How to personalize e-mails

2001-10-12 Thread Chris Gozdzik

Hi there!

I'd like to switch to Mailman, but I'd like to maintain personalized e-
mails. Is it possible? I couldn't find any info on that.
My subscribers' list contains first name and e-mail.
I'd appreciate any help.
Chris

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