Re: [Mailman-Users] hi resource usage
* Roelf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20020924 09:15]: wrote: > Hi > > I'm running mailman 2.1b3 and python 2.2.1 on FreeBSD 4.4 on Dell > Poweredge 2500, P 3 1000MHz, 1GB memory and RAID. > > But mailman takes a lot of resources with archiving. > > PID USERNAMEPRI NICE SIZERES STATETIME WCPUCPU > COMMAND > 37459 mailman 53 0 87068K 85380K RUN 144.2H 96.78% > 96.78% python > > Restart mailman > > PID USERNAMEPRI NICE SIZERES STATETIME WCPUCPU > COMMAND > 33270 mailman 58 0 29536K 27996K RUN 6:45 86.04% 86.04% > python > 201 root 2 0 932K 552K select 8:41 0.00% 0.00% > syslogd > > 33270 ?? R 6:52.04 qrunner /opt/mailman/bin/qrunner > --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s (python) > > Has anybody else seen this problem and any ideas on how to solve this. I run FreeBSD 4.7-PRE with Mailman-2.0.14. The box is a 500MHz with 256MB and runs a whole lot other services but sincerely speaking I haven't seen a problem with Mailman. maybe this is because 1. My lists are not big/busy enough 2. I haven't caught the archiver process in action. On another box with 2.1b3 (FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE, Python-2.2.1, 1.4GHz, 256MB RAM) I also haven't had this problem. How large are your lists and how busy? cheers - wash +--+-+ Odhiambo Washington, [EMAIL PROTECTED] . WANANCHI ONLINE LTD (Nairobi, KE) | http://ns2.wananchi.com/~wash/ . 1ere Etage, Loita Hse, Loita St., | GSM: (+254) 722 743 223 . # 10286, 00100 NAIROBI | +-+--+ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] hi resource usage
Hi I'm running mailman 2.1b3 and python 2.2.1 on FreeBSD 4.4 on Dell Poweredge 2500, P 3 1000MHz, 1GB memory and RAID. But mailman takes a lot of resources with archiving. PID USERNAMEPRI NICE SIZERES STATETIME WCPUCPU COMMAND 37459 mailman 53 0 87068K 85380K RUN 144.2H 96.78% 96.78% python Restart mailman PID USERNAMEPRI NICE SIZERES STATETIME WCPUCPU COMMAND 33270 mailman 58 0 29536K 27996K RUN 6:45 86.04% 86.04% python 201 root 2 0 932K 552K select 8:41 0.00% 0.00% syslogd 33270 ?? R 6:52.04 qrunner /opt/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s (python) Has anybody else seen this problem and any ideas on how to solve this. Thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: un-subscription problems
Yup yep yes, I have worked this much out. Now my problem is getting sendmail to execute the script. I have had sensible comments like "Whatever you had to do to make the mailman wrapper work is probably the same thing here" However, this instance of Mailman is installed automatically by my service network provider . asking I/NSP tech support questions is sometimes like dealing with an evil robot parrot. /Anthony - Original Message - From: "Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Anthony Carmody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: un-subscription problems : On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 23:37, Anthony Carmody wrote: : > ~gulp~ I am not a python programmer. and the users of the list needing the :unsubscribe address are artists [do i need to : > say more?] ..and although I am not 'completely' new to Mailman, I have only had :it on my system for a few months AND in : > a moderately vanilla state. I lease a Virtual Server without smrsh that I can see, :and I only have a pseudos-root : > permission. I have virtual domains making it a little trickier. I have searched :the archives and have not been able to : > find anything that works for me as of yet. : > : > I suppose what I need to know is: Is there a script [adding addresses to a temp :file, hourly cron is fine] that someone : > 'has working' that they can post me that does not need smrsh and has the alias :entries examples. preferably something : > that I can pass the variables to like so: : > : > -unsub:"|/usr/lib/mailman/localbin/unsubscribe.sh :- -" : > : : How about something like this: : : - In the aliases file, add an entry for the unsubscribe email: : volleyball-unsub: "|/home/mailman/ext/v-unsub.alias" : : - Create the directory /home/mailman/ext : mkdir /home/mailman/ext : chown mail /home/mailman/ext : chmod 0700 /home/mailman/ext : : - In /home/mailman/ext create the script "v-unsub.alias": : #! /bin/bash : # : # Script to unsubscribe user from volleyball list. : # Loads file /home/mailman/ext/v-unsub.txt : # That file is later processed by a Mailman cron job : # /home/mailman/ext/v-unsub.cron : # : # Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : # Subject: unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] : UNSUB=`grep -i "Subject: " - |head -1 |cut -f2- -d:` : for i in $UNSUB : do : echo $i >> /home/mailman/ext/v-unsub.txt : done : # End of script : : - Create the script v-unsub.cron : #! /bin/bash : # : # Script to unsubscribe user from volleyball list. : # Removes users found in file /home/mailman/ext/v-unsub.txt : # The file is loaded via an unsubscribe alias: v-unsub.alias : for i in `cat /home/mailman/ext/v-unsub.txt` : do : /home/mailman/bin/remove_members volleyball $i : done : : - Make the scripts executable: : chmod a+x /home/mailman/ext/v-unsub.alias : chmod a+x /home/mailman/ext/v-unsub.cron : : - Add the script to the Mailman cron jobs: : su mailman : cron -i : 15 * * * * /home/mailman/ext/v-unsub.cron : : === : There is no error checking on any of the scripts and basically anyone : can unsubscribe anyone (or everyone) from the list, but it should work : as a base. : : Take care - Jon Carnes : : : -- : Mailman-Users mailing list : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users : Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py : Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ : -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Importing messages to archives
Okay, now we're half way home. The messages that I pasted in are all now visible in the archives for the appropriate time, but every one is listed as "No subject" and when you read them all of the original headers are displayed. There is a valid subject line, I'm replacing the three-letter name of the previous list with ABC: Subject: [ABC] Detailed Charge Master Report Ass opposed to the same header if I send it in directly: Subject: [Test] test to look at headers So, do I need to replace headers on the additional messages to make this work? Or should it have already worked? Van [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Van - The key here is to note that a Mailman archive is more than just the mbox file. There are many other supporting files, including pre-gen'd HTML files and a whole set of database files. The trick to editing the mbox file for a list archive and having the edits recognized is to do just as Jon has done: use the arch command (see the bin directory in your Mailman installation directory). From ~mailman/bin/arch -h ... Use this command to rebuild the archives for a mailing list. You may want to do this if you edit some messages in an archive, or remove some messages from an archive. So, use arch whether you are adding messages, removing messages, editing existing messages, or replacing an entire archive with a whole new set of messages (as Jon did). HTH. - Andrew Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ On 23 Sep 2002, Jon Carnes wrote: > I've done something similar in the past and there is no special header > (that I know of). > > In my case, I created the list in Mailman, deleted the existing > archive files (which where simply test messages). Copied the old > lists mbox file over the Mailman one, then ran the Mailman arch > command, and told it to re-create the archives. Worked a charm! > > On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 04:35, G. Armour Van Horn wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > I have been asked to possibly host a list previously kept in > > another system. They would like to include archives from their > > existing list, and have the messages in mbox format. The format > > appears to be compatible, but when I appended a sample to one of > > my test lists the other messages were not added. > > > > I'm guessing that there is one header that determines if an entry > > is added to the archives, and that the additional messages I added > > to my test list weren't displayed in the archives because they lacked > > that header. Can someone tell me what the header is? If so, I can > > replace that header (or a similar one) from their existing list with > > the header matching the name of their new list and import it. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Van -- -- Sign up now for Quotes of the Day, a handful of quotations on a theme delivered every morning. Enlightenment! Daily, for free! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Subscribe_QOTD For web hosting and maintenance, visit Van's home page: http://www.domainvanhorn.com/van/ --
Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix with Mailman
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 04:52:09PM -0600, Kory Wheatley wrote: > I recently switched from Sendmail to Postfix running on Mailman 2.1b3 > Red Hat 7.3 and I followed all the instructions in the README.POSTFIX > file. I've got the aliases located in "/home/mailman/data" and mailman > as the "mail-gid", not using virtual domains. Turned off Sendmail and > turned on Postfix and when I send a message nothing happens, nothing > goes in the queue directory, nothing goes in the mailman log files, it's > as if nothing was sent, because nothing is reported in > /var/spool/postfix. > > In the Postfix configuration file (main.cf) I changed the myhostname to > "myhostname= kwlinux.isu.edu" , which is my Mailmans machines hostname. > I changed mydomain to "mydomain = isu.edu" and mydestination is setup as > "mydestination= $myhostname, localhost, $mydomain" and the > inet_interfaces is setup as "inet_interface = localhost". Changed > alias_map to point to the alias file in mailman, > is there something I'm missing?. What happens when you run postfix start ?? You should see no messages, but a log message indicating postfix has started. If that works, then telnet localhost 25 you should get a connect and see a postfix banner. Then do the following: Postfix you banner helo localhost 250 (some hostname) mail from: 250 Ok rcpt to: 250 Ok data 354 End data with . hi there . 250 Ok: queued as (mumble) quit 221 Bye for "valid user@yourdomain" and "another such" substitute usernames on the local host, with an acceptable domain name. Next take a look at the logs. They should show the mail being delivered. No? Let us know what happened. -- - Dan Wilder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Technical Manager SSC, Inc. P.O. Box 55549 Phone: 206-782-8808 Seattle, WA 98155-0549URL http://www.linuxjournal.com/ - -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Postfix with Mailman
I recently switched from Sendmail to Postfix running on Mailman 2.1b3 Red Hat 7.3 and I followed all the instructions in the README.POSTFIX file. I've got the aliases located in "/home/mailman/data" and mailman as the "mail-gid", not using virtual domains. Turned off Sendmail and turned on Postfix and when I send a message nothing happens, nothing goes in the queue directory, nothing goes in the mailman log files, it's as if nothing was sent, because nothing is reported in /var/spool/postfix. In the Postfix configuration file (main.cf) I changed the myhostname to "myhostname= kwlinux.isu.edu" , which is my Mailmans machines hostname. I changed mydomain to "mydomain = isu.edu" and mydestination is setup as "mydestination= $myhostname, localhost, $mydomain" and the inet_interfaces is setup as "inet_interface = localhost". Changed alias_map to point to the alias file in mailman, is there something I'm missing?. -- # Kory Wheatley Academic Computing Analyst Sr. Phone 282-3874 # Everything must point to him. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Oh no! Multiple Emails going out to people!
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 12:17, J C Lawrence wrote: > On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:37:32 +0100 > Angel Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I would like to know, how I can strip duplicate emails out of my > > subscriber list. Apparently, multiple emails are being sent out to > > people, and I'm not sure how to stop this. People are getting pissed > > off, and are complaining > > If multiple versions of the same person's address are in your DB there's > not much you can do other than having them individually clean up their > own accounts. > If you are seeing a lot of emails going out to various folks (but never consistently the same folks) then the problem is most likely with your system. Processes could be starting up, failing over, and then restarting. You need to monitor your system while sending. The log files will also tell you a great deal about what is going on. Good Luck -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] deleting archives
As far as I know, only sysadmin can delete the older archives, however this is something that could be setup to run via a cron job. Jon Carnes === On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 11:41, Jessie Kleefstra wrote: > I have looked through the FAQ's and archives and I can't seem to find > the answer to this question. > > Can an administrator of a list delete his monthly archives, if so , how > or is this only a system admin function? > > > * > Jessie KleefstraEmail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sr.Consultant,Helpdesk Services Phone:905-525-9140 ext.24357 > Computing & Information Services Fax:905-528-3773 > ABB-132 > McMaster University > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: [Mailman-Developers] Postfix alias files
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 12:01:56 -0600 Kory Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Question, what are the alias files configured like for POSTFIX when > using Mailman, are they the same syntax as Sendmail? With the rare exceptions of QMail, all Unix alias files have the same format. Caveat: Sendmail smrsh, which doesn't change the alias file format, but does change its external requirements. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: [Mailman-Developers] Postfix alias files
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 12:01:56PM -0600, Kory Wheatley wrote: > Question, what are the alias files configured like for POSTFIX when > using Mailman, are they the same syntax as Sendmail? > Could someone give me an example? I use the aliases generated when setting up a Mailman list according to instructions using "newlist". Just plug them into /etc/aliases, run postalias /etc/aliases and whee! Off to the races! Well, something like what newlist generates. Here's a typical stanza, wrapped for prettier email using "\": atc: "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/atc" atc-admin: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner atc" atc-request: \ /var/lib/mailman/localdata/requests/atc,\ "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd atc" atc-owner: atc-admin owner-atc: atc-admin atc-remove: "|/usr/lib/mailman/localbin/unsub.sh atc ssc.com" Incoming stuff gets filtered by procmail. All requests are logged to a "requests" directory in case some hysterical person comes charging at our upstream provider yelling "spam!". Mail to atc-remove goes to a script called "unsub.sh" which tries to figure out who sent the mail, then removes them from the list if it can. I'd publish unsub.sh but I'm not sure of the licensing; Bob Puff wrote the original, and I adapted it. His original was published here, which implies that he meant for anybody to use it who wanted to, but didn't contain a copyright notice, which I suppose means I'm infringing on his work and would compound the transgression by publishing it with any notice claiming that it is published under GPL, or whatever. -- - Dan Wilder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Technical Manager SSC, Inc. P.O. Box 55549 Phone: 206-782-8808 Seattle, WA 98155-0549URL http://www.linuxjournal.com/ - -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix alias files
# STANZA START: test # CREATED: Mon Sep 23 07:49:27 2002 test: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post test" test-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin test" test-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces test" . . . # STANZA END: test > Question, what are the alias files configured like for POSTFIX when > using Mailman, are they the same syntax as Sendmail? > Could someone give me an example? > > -- > # > Kory Wheatley > Academic Computing Analyst Sr. > Phone 282-3874 > # > Everything must point to him. > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Postfix alias files
Question, what are the alias files configured like for POSTFIX when using Mailman, are they the same syntax as Sendmail? Could someone give me an example? -- # Kory Wheatley Academic Computing Analyst Sr. Phone 282-3874 # Everything must point to him. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] RE: Diagnosing duplicates [Was:Now MTAtweaking!]
> I think this is the problem, I saw in the logs something about
> QRUNNER_LOCK_LIFETIME expiring, **wonders how to fix this**
Look in /home/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py and search for QRUNNER.
You will find the QRUNNER_LOCK_LIFETIME parameter, plus several
related parameters, plus explanatory notes.
Following the general rule, use /home/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py
to override the desired settings that you see in Defaults.py
What parameters do you override and what settings do you use? You
can ask this list for suggested settings from folks in a similar
situation ('similar' I guess applies to list size and frequency of
posts, plus system capabilities and -- probably most important --
connectivity to the outside world (which I see you have already
begun to ask about)). In any case, however, you will probably need
to experiment a little, so some explanatory messages to and patience
from your list members may be needed.
HTH,
- Andrew
Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > > "TR" == Tom Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > TR> Sorry, I should have clarified that.. however, doesn't Barry > TR> need at least *some* people to run the beta under load to help > TR> iron out the problems :) Oh, absolutely! The early adopters play a crucial role in moving the beta toward a solid release. If it were not for these folks, we would all be stuck with being forced to be beta-testers. (Probably paying for the privilege, too, because the best way to make something sub-standard into something valuable is to put a lot of marketing behind it and charge people money for it. For example, Windows 95 and 98 are both (IMHO) beta software that Micro$oft made a pile of money off of on the way toward Windows 2000, all-in-all a solid product.) I -much- prefer the way it is done in the open source community. > TR> Needless to say, I am one of those persons :) > > Yes! And greatly appreciated, not just by me, but by all those other > folks who have to or want to wait until the final release. Every bug > we squash now is one that (hopefully ) won't bite people later. > > -Barry I, too, greatly appreciate the time, energy, efforts, and contributions of those who elect to run with beta versions. I owe a countless debt to you, Tom, and thousands like you, since I use a wide variety of open source software for many aspects of both my personal and professional life. In fact, I would greatly like to join your ranks; alas! I do not have the time to give; I wouldn't even have the time to keep Mailman up to date with the latest beta version, which Barry has pointed out in a recent posting is an important part of being a beta tester. So, my original purpose in waving the yellow flag for Nathan was just to make sure that these aspects were "on the table", in addition to the discussion about the sought-after feature. I had the sense that Nathan is in a situation more like mine, where beta software is (no offense!) to be avoided when possible. - Andrew Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Importing messages to archives
Van - The key here is to note that a Mailman archive is more than just the mbox file. There are many other supporting files, including pre-gen'd HTML files and a whole set of database files. The trick to editing the mbox file for a list archive and having the edits recognized is to do just as Jon has done: use the arch command (see the bin directory in your Mailman installation directory). From ~mailman/bin/arch -h ... Use this command to rebuild the archives for a mailing list. You may want to do this if you edit some messages in an archive, or remove some messages from an archive. So, use arch whether you are adding messages, removing messages, editing existing messages, or replacing an entire archive with a whole new set of messages (as Jon did). HTH. - Andrew Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ On 23 Sep 2002, Jon Carnes wrote: > I've done something similar in the past and there is no special header > (that I know of). > > In my case, I created the list in Mailman, deleted the existing > archive files (which where simply test messages). Copied the old > lists mbox file over the Mailman one, then ran the Mailman arch > command, and told it to re-create the archives. Worked a charm! > > On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 04:35, G. Armour Van Horn wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > I have been asked to possibly host a list previously kept in > > another system. They would like to include archives from their > > existing list, and have the messages in mbox format. The format > > appears to be compatible, but when I appended a sample to one of > > my test lists the other messages were not added. > > > > I'm guessing that there is one header that determines if an entry > > is added to the archives, and that the additional messages I added > > to my test list weren't displayed in the archives because they lacked > > that header. Can someone tell me what the header is? If so, I can > > replace that header (or a similar one) from their existing list with > > the header matching the name of their new list and import it. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Van -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] RE: Diagnosing duplicates [Was:Now MTAtweaking!]
I think this is the problem, I saw in the logs something about QRUNNER_LOCK_LIFETIME expiring, **wonders how to fix this** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Juergen Geinitz Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 2:51 PM To: Mike Kercher Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] RE: Diagnosing duplicates [Was:Now MTAtweaking!] I once had this effect when my list was getting large. I found QRUNNER_LOCK_LIFETIME expiring and therefore suddenly having a second qrunner also processing the qfiles. My qrunner lock is now about 30 hrs. and I did not have that problem since. Regards Juergen On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 15:40, Mike Kercher wrote: > Take a look at your maillog and grep the duplicate email address...see if your end actually sent the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] more > than once. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Angel Gabriel > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 7:09 AM > To: 'Nigel Metheringham' > Cc: Mailman (E-mail) > Subject: [Mailman-Users] RE: Diagnosing duplicates [Was:Now MTA > tweaking!] > > > Okay, this is a one way list, and I can't get hold of the dups. My email > didn't get any dups, so I can't check either, and I really DON'T want to > replicate it!! I'm going to assume that the problem is my end. If it's > mailman screwing up, how can I go about cleaning my list? And if it's my > MTA, how do I fix that?? > > > -Original Message- > From: Nigel Metheringham > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 12:52 PM > To: Angel Gabriel > Cc: Mailman (E-mail) > Subject: Diagnosing duplicates [Was:Now MTA tweaking!] > > > Change in subject line - its a different thread... > > On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 12:32, Angel Gabriel wrote: > > I decided to send out my list over the > > weekend... I came in today, *monday* and I found that a LOT of email boxes > > had gotten repeat emails, and really pissed off my subscribers. And I > don't > > mean like two or three I mean REPEAT emails, like 12, 13. How can I found > > out what caused this? > > The answer is you need to get at least 2 of the duplicates (ideally all > the duplicates that reached a single address), with the full headers - > specifically you need the received lines. > > You then compare the received headers on each one and work out where the > paths of the 2 mails diverged. > > This could be:- > - the original poster sent several copies (happens quite often) > in this case you see the received lines are different > at every stage > - the senders MTA duplicated it > (first - thats the bottom one in the message headers - received > line is exactly the same, the rest are different). > - mailman duplicated it > (different received lines on the list delivery MTA) > - the list delivery MTA duplicated it (subtly different) > - someone's virus scanner reinjected it (they *must* die!!!) > - someone's vacation mailer reinjected it (they must die and their > whole domain be blocked - actually same applies for the virus > scanner too). > > There are other possibilities too... and never underestimate how > determined some idiots can be to loop your mail. > > Nigel. > -- > [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] > > > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- VVA Kommunikation : neue medien | novalis media Juergen Geinitz | System-Management Schneidweg 8 76534 Baden-Baden fon +49 7223.94097-63 | fax +49 7223.94097-55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vva.de Geschaeftsfuehrer Stefan Meutsch HRB 658 Duesseldorf -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Uninstall Mailman
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Maria Garcia Suarez wrote: > Now I would like to uninstall Mailman 2.0.13 to > install it again using Debian's apt-get (Mailman's > version 2.0.11). > > Can someone please tell me how to uninstall Mailman? It depends on how much you want to remove. Since it sounds like you plan to put Mailman back after you uninstall, I am going to assume that you want to keep the same www aliases and list aliases that you already have (i.e., you will use the same URLs and list addresses after you re-install Mailman). All you need to do is delete the directory where you installed Mailman. For example, on my system, it is the default location, "/home/mailman". If you might want to keep anything from the old installation, you may just want to move the current installed directory aside instead of deleting it entirely. (In particular, you may want to keep /home/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py) For example, you might do ONE of the following (or similar): mv -i /home/mailman /home/mailman.old mv -i /home/mailman /tmp tar cv -f /tmp/mailman-2.0.13.tar /home/mailman I recommend the above approach, but if you are certain that you will not want anything from the old directory, then just: rm -R /home/mailman Don't forget to re-create the Mailman install directory before starting the re-install. Also, if you -are- keeping the former list addresses, be sure to re-create the lists. (To more fully remove Mailman from your system, you would also need to remove web server aliases, the user and group called 'mailman', the list aliases from your MTA's aliases file(s), and Mailman's cron entries.) Fellow Mailman site admins: did I miss anything? > Kisses, > > Maria G Suarez Hugs, - Andrew Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] General Posting Filters (Privacy?)
Hi Daniel - You don't actually get around to stating what the problem is; what exactly does not work? Also, what -portion- of the thing that does not work -dose- work; i.e., if the problem is "Posts are not going out to the list", where does the posted e-mail stop? Is it utterly rejected? Is it posted but being held for approval? What do your MTA and Mailman logs show about how far the message made it? With some more detail (and an actual problem statement :-) someone on the list may be able to help. - Andrew Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Daniel Katz wrote: > We're using a current install of Mailman 2.0.6 and I tried going > through the diff logs to find if this bug (or is it a bug?) was fixed > or not with no success. > > I thought maybe you guys can shed some light on the subject. > > I setup a list for archival purposes and want the whole world to be > able to post to it. Reading through some of the user submitted > documentation I set the _General Posting Filters_ to reflect. > > Must posts be approved by an administrator? -> No Restrict posting > privilege to list members? (member_posting_only) -> No Addresses of > members accepted for posting to this list without implicit approval > requirement -> (Blank) > > Is this just a 2.0.6 bug or is this an issue that has not been looked > at. > > Thanks in advance. > > -dK -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] General Posting Filters (Privacy?)
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 20:04:19 -0500 Daniel Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We're using a current install of Mailman 2.0.6 and I tried going > through the diff logs to find if this bug (or is it a bug?) was > fixed or not with no success. > > I thought maybe you guys can shed some light on the subject. > > I setup a list for archival purposes and want the whole world to > be able to post to it. Reading through some of the user submitted > documentation I set the _General Posting Filters_ to reflect. > > Must posts be approved by an administrator? -> No > Restrict posting privilege to list members? (member_posting_only) > -> No Addresses of members accepted for posting to this list > without implicit approval requirement -> (Blank) > > Is this just a 2.0.6 bug or is this an issue that has not been > looked at. > > Thanks in advance. > > -dK This doesn't answer your question directly, and perhaps I am not understanding something. The current version of Mailman is 2.0.13. -- Raquel You live longer once you realize that any time spent being unhappy is wasted. --Ruth E. Renkl -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Oh no! Multiple Emails going out to people!
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:37:32 +0100 Angel Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to know, how I can strip duplicate emails out of my > subscriber list. Apparently, multiple emails are being sent out to > people, and I'm not sure how to stop this. People are getting pissed > off, and are complaining If multiple versions of the same person's address are in your DB there's not much you can do other than having them individually clean up their own accounts. Exception: You can likely (not guaranteed) assume that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the same as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Export your subscriber list out to a text file (list-members) and then run a sed script to find these duplicates. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Was Does mailman support a MySQL backend? - Now MTA tweaking!
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 12:32:10 +0100 Angel Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > THREE T3's and a couple of T1's? Gees... That box is located at a tier 2 ISP. > How can I tell the performance of my server? I decided to send out my > list over the weekend... I came in today, *monday* and I found that a > LOT of email boxes had gotten repeat emails, and really pissed off my > subscribers. Typically this is due to a broken MTA at one of the MXes you are delivering to which is using the wrong response code for "mailbox full" or some similar soft error. > And I don't mean like two or three I mean REPEAT emails, like 12, > 13. How can I found out what caused this? Read your MTA logs. Carefully. Get several copies of those messages (with full headers) from several different people and analyse their Received: headers. Determine from the above exactly where the problem is. and whose responsibility it is. Fix. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] deleting archives
I have looked through the FAQ's and archives and I can't seem to find the answer to this question. Can an administrator of a list delete his monthly archives, if so , how or is this only a system admin function? * Jessie KleefstraEmail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr.Consultant,Helpdesk Services Phone:905-525-9140 ext.24357 Computing & Information Services Fax:905-528-3773 ABB-132 McMaster University -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: un-subscription problems
On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 23:37, Anthony Carmody wrote: > ~gulp~ I am not a python programmer. and the users of the list needing the >unsubscribe address are artists [do i need to > say more?] ..and although I am not 'completely' new to Mailman, I have only had it >on my system for a few months AND in > a moderately vanilla state. I lease a Virtual Server without smrsh that I can see, >and I only have a pseudos-root > permission. I have virtual domains making it a little trickier. I have searched the >archives and have not been able to > find anything that works for me as of yet. > > I suppose what I need to know is: Is there a script [adding addresses to a temp >file, hourly cron is fine] that someone > 'has working' that they can post me that does not need smrsh and has the alias >entries examples. preferably something > that I can pass the variables to like so: > > -unsub:"|/usr/lib/mailman/localbin/unsubscribe.sh >- -" > How about something like this: - In the aliases file, add an entry for the unsubscribe email: volleyball-unsub: "|/home/mailman/ext/v-unsub.alias" - Create the directory /home/mailman/ext mkdir /home/mailman/ext chown mail /home/mailman/ext chmod 0700 /home/mailman/ext - In /home/mailman/ext create the script "v-unsub.alias": #! /bin/bash # # Script to unsubscribe user from volleyball list. # Loads file /home/mailman/ext/v-unsub.txt # That file is later processed by a Mailman cron job # /home/mailman/ext/v-unsub.cron # # Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Subject: unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNSUB=`grep -i "Subject: " - |head -1 |cut -f2- -d:` for i in $UNSUB do echo $i >> /home/mailman/ext/v-unsub.txt done # End of script - Create the script v-unsub.cron #! /bin/bash # # Script to unsubscribe user from volleyball list. # Removes users found in file /home/mailman/ext/v-unsub.txt # The file is loaded via an unsubscribe alias: v-unsub.alias for i in `cat /home/mailman/ext/v-unsub.txt` do /home/mailman/bin/remove_members volleyball $i done - Make the scripts executable: chmod a+x /home/mailman/ext/v-unsub.alias chmod a+x /home/mailman/ext/v-unsub.cron - Add the script to the Mailman cron jobs: su mailman cron -i 15 * * * * /home/mailman/ext/v-unsub.cron === There is no error checking on any of the scripts and basically anyone can unsubscribe anyone (or everyone) from the list, but it should work as a base. Take care - Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] What do these errors mean?
> "bronto" == <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: bronto> I'm running Mailamn v2.1b2 If folks are going to be playing with the betas, /please/ at least use the latest beta, which is 2.1b3. Even better would be current cvs, but I can understand that that's a bigger hurdle. -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Importing messages to archives
I've done something similar in the past and there is no special header (that I know of). In my case, I created the list in Mailman, deleted the existing archive files (which where simply test messages). Copied the old lists mbox file over the Mailman one, then ran the Mailman arch command, and told it to re-create the archives. Worked a charm! On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 04:35, G. Armour Van Horn wrote: > Greetings, > > I have been asked to possibly host a list previously kept in another system. > They would like to include archives from their existing list, and have the > messages in mbox format. The format appears to be compatible, but when I > appended a sample to one of my test lists the other messages were not added. > > I'm guessing that there is one header that determines if an entry is added to > the archives, and that the additional messages I added to my test list weren't > displayed in the archives because they lacked that header. Can someone tell me > what the header is? If so, I can replace that header (or a similar one) from > their existing list with the header matching the name of their new list and > import it. > > Thanks in advance, > > Van > > > -- > -- > Sign up now for Quotes of the Day, a handful of quotations > on a theme delivered every morning. > Enlightenment! Daily, for free! > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Subscribe_QOTD > > For web hosting and maintenance, > visit Van's home page: http://www.domainvanhorn.com/van/ > -- > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] RE: Diagnosing duplicates [Was:Now MTAtweaking!]
I once had this effect when my list was getting large. I found QRUNNER_LOCK_LIFETIME expiring and therefore suddenly having a second qrunner also processing the qfiles. My qrunner lock is now about 30 hrs. and I did not have that problem since. Regards Juergen On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 15:40, Mike Kercher wrote: > Take a look at your maillog and grep the duplicate email address...see if your end >actually sent the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] more > than once. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Angel Gabriel > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 7:09 AM > To: 'Nigel Metheringham' > Cc: Mailman (E-mail) > Subject: [Mailman-Users] RE: Diagnosing duplicates [Was:Now MTA > tweaking!] > > > Okay, this is a one way list, and I can't get hold of the dups. My email > didn't get any dups, so I can't check either, and I really DON'T want to > replicate it!! I'm going to assume that the problem is my end. If it's > mailman screwing up, how can I go about cleaning my list? And if it's my > MTA, how do I fix that?? > > > -Original Message- > From: Nigel Metheringham > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 12:52 PM > To: Angel Gabriel > Cc: Mailman (E-mail) > Subject: Diagnosing duplicates [Was:Now MTA tweaking!] > > > Change in subject line - its a different thread... > > On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 12:32, Angel Gabriel wrote: > > I decided to send out my list over the > > weekend... I came in today, *monday* and I found that a LOT of email boxes > > had gotten repeat emails, and really pissed off my subscribers. And I > don't > > mean like two or three I mean REPEAT emails, like 12, 13. How can I found > > out what caused this? > > The answer is you need to get at least 2 of the duplicates (ideally all > the duplicates that reached a single address), with the full headers - > specifically you need the received lines. > > You then compare the received headers on each one and work out where the > paths of the 2 mails diverged. > > This could be:- > - the original poster sent several copies (happens quite often) > in this case you see the received lines are different > at every stage > - the senders MTA duplicated it > (first - thats the bottom one in the message headers - received > line is exactly the same, the rest are different). > - mailman duplicated it > (different received lines on the list delivery MTA) > - the list delivery MTA duplicated it (subtly different) > - someone's virus scanner reinjected it (they *must* die!!!) > - someone's vacation mailer reinjected it (they must die and their > whole domain be blocked - actually same applies for the virus > scanner too). > > There are other possibilities too... and never underestimate how > determined some idiots can be to loop your mail. > > Nigel. > -- > [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] > > > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- VVA Kommunikation : neue medien | novalis media Juergen Geinitz | System-Management Schneidweg 8 76534 Baden-Baden fon +49 7223.94097-63 | fax +49 7223.94097-55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vva.de Geschaeftsfuehrer Stefan Meutsch HRB 658 Duesseldorf -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] List stops after max number of messages in one hour
Dear Friends My list default -> max number of messages in one hour is 5. I exceeded this. My list stops and when I approve some new messages nothing happens (not send). I need your help Flávio
RE: [Mailman-Users] RE: Diagnosing duplicates [Was:Now MTA tweaking!]
Take a look at your maillog and grep the duplicate email address...see if your end actually sent the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] more than once. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Angel Gabriel Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 7:09 AM To: 'Nigel Metheringham' Cc: Mailman (E-mail) Subject: [Mailman-Users] RE: Diagnosing duplicates [Was:Now MTA tweaking!] Okay, this is a one way list, and I can't get hold of the dups. My email didn't get any dups, so I can't check either, and I really DON'T want to replicate it!! I'm going to assume that the problem is my end. If it's mailman screwing up, how can I go about cleaning my list? And if it's my MTA, how do I fix that?? -Original Message- From: Nigel Metheringham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 12:52 PM To: Angel Gabriel Cc: Mailman (E-mail) Subject: Diagnosing duplicates [Was:Now MTA tweaking!] Change in subject line - its a different thread... On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 12:32, Angel Gabriel wrote: > I decided to send out my list over the > weekend... I came in today, *monday* and I found that a LOT of email boxes > had gotten repeat emails, and really pissed off my subscribers. And I don't > mean like two or three I mean REPEAT emails, like 12, 13. How can I found > out what caused this? The answer is you need to get at least 2 of the duplicates (ideally all the duplicates that reached a single address), with the full headers - specifically you need the received lines. You then compare the received headers on each one and work out where the paths of the 2 mails diverged. This could be:- - the original poster sent several copies (happens quite often) in this case you see the received lines are different at every stage - the senders MTA duplicated it (first - thats the bottom one in the message headers - received line is exactly the same, the rest are different). - mailman duplicated it (different received lines on the list delivery MTA) - the list delivery MTA duplicated it (subtly different) - someone's virus scanner reinjected it (they *must* die!!!) - someone's vacation mailer reinjected it (they must die and their whole domain be blocked - actually same applies for the virus scanner too). There are other possibilities too... and never underestimate how determined some idiots can be to loop your mail. Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Diagnosing duplicates [Was:Now MTA tweaking!]
Change in subject line - its a different thread... On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 12:32, Angel Gabriel wrote: > I decided to send out my list over the > weekend... I came in today, *monday* and I found that a LOT of email boxes > had gotten repeat emails, and really pissed off my subscribers. And I don't > mean like two or three I mean REPEAT emails, like 12, 13. How can I found > out what caused this? The answer is you need to get at least 2 of the duplicates (ideally all the duplicates that reached a single address), with the full headers - specifically you need the received lines. You then compare the received headers on each one and work out where the paths of the 2 mails diverged. This could be:- - the original poster sent several copies (happens quite often) in this case you see the received lines are different at every stage - the senders MTA duplicated it (first - thats the bottom one in the message headers - received line is exactly the same, the rest are different). - mailman duplicated it (different received lines on the list delivery MTA) - the list delivery MTA duplicated it (subtly different) - someone's virus scanner reinjected it (they *must* die!!!) - someone's vacation mailer reinjected it (they must die and their whole domain be blocked - actually same applies for the virus scanner too). There are other possibilities too... and never underestimate how determined some idiots can be to loop your mail. Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] RE: Diagnosing duplicates [Was:Now MTA tweaking!]
Okay, this is a one way list, and I can't get hold of the dups. My email didn't get any dups, so I can't check either, and I really DON'T want to replicate it!! I'm going to assume that the problem is my end. If it's mailman screwing up, how can I go about cleaning my list? And if it's my MTA, how do I fix that?? -Original Message- From: Nigel Metheringham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 12:52 PM To: Angel Gabriel Cc: Mailman (E-mail) Subject: Diagnosing duplicates [Was:Now MTA tweaking!] Change in subject line - its a different thread... On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 12:32, Angel Gabriel wrote: > I decided to send out my list over the > weekend... I came in today, *monday* and I found that a LOT of email boxes > had gotten repeat emails, and really pissed off my subscribers. And I don't > mean like two or three I mean REPEAT emails, like 12, 13. How can I found > out what caused this? The answer is you need to get at least 2 of the duplicates (ideally all the duplicates that reached a single address), with the full headers - specifically you need the received lines. You then compare the received headers on each one and work out where the paths of the 2 mails diverged. This could be:- - the original poster sent several copies (happens quite often) in this case you see the received lines are different at every stage - the senders MTA duplicated it (first - thats the bottom one in the message headers - received line is exactly the same, the rest are different). - mailman duplicated it (different received lines on the list delivery MTA) - the list delivery MTA duplicated it (subtly different) - someone's virus scanner reinjected it (they *must* die!!!) - someone's vacation mailer reinjected it (they must die and their whole domain be blocked - actually same applies for the virus scanner too). There are other possibilities too... and never underestimate how determined some idiots can be to loop your mail. Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] GID Error..
Please see http://www.list.org/install-config.html and take note of the --with-mail-gid option. This is meant by "(Reconfigure to take 99?)". -Original Message- From: Sadananda B Rai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 9:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] GID Error.. Hello All, I have configured mailman and I am running postfix. I am getting a problem in adding aliases and once I send replay to mailman created lists I get error as fallow Sep 23 17:15:51 mail Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 99. (Reconfigure to take 99?) I hope somebody can help me to solve this problem as the earliest. Thanks in advance. Sadananda Rai -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Was Does mailman support a MySQL backend? - Now MTA tweaking!
THREE T3's and a couple of T1's? Gees... you say that so causal! How can I tell the performance of my server? I decided to send out my list over the weekend... I came in today, *monday* and I found that a LOT of email boxes had gotten repeat emails, and really pissed off my subscribers. And I don't mean like two or three I mean REPEAT emails, like 12, 13. How can I found out what caused this? -Original Message- From: J C Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:00 AM To: Angel Gabriel Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Was Does mailman support a MySQL backend? - Now MTA tweaking! On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 18:25:01 +0100 Angel Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1400 deliveries a minute? WOAH! What connection do you use?? Three T3s and a couple T1s. > If that's the case with postfix, then my MTA is getting DELETED and > replaced! even 500 deliveries a minute would be good, because that > means around 200 minutes to deliver the lot. Note that that rate is for responsive MXes only. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Oh no! Multiple Emails going out to people!
I would like to know, how I can strip duplicate emails out of my subscriber list. Apparently, multiple emails are being sent out to people, and I'm not sure how to stop this. People are getting pissed off, and are complaining -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Importing messages to archives
Greetings, I have been asked to possibly host a list previously kept in another system. They would like to include archives from their existing list, and have the messages in mbox format. The format appears to be compatible, but when I appended a sample to one of my test lists the other messages were not added. I'm guessing that there is one header that determines if an entry is added to the archives, and that the additional messages I added to my test list weren't displayed in the archives because they lacked that header. Can someone tell me what the header is? If so, I can replace that header (or a similar one) from their existing list with the header matching the name of their new list and import it. Thanks in advance, Van -- -- Sign up now for Quotes of the Day, a handful of quotations on a theme delivered every morning. Enlightenment! Daily, for free! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Subscribe_QOTD For web hosting and maintenance, visit Van's home page: http://www.domainvanhorn.com/van/ -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
