[Mailman-Users] Losing text from Outlook emails.

2003-02-06 Thread Pat Finnerty
I've noticed that emails that are sent from Outlook with embedded 
objects lose any text when archived by pipermail.

Example. This appears in the archive:
_

Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-- next part 
--
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 31368 bytes
Desc: disk_layout.jpg
Url : 
http://soggey.ilo.cpqcorp.net/pipermail/test/attachments/20030203/8a290e49/attachment.jpe



The embedded object - in this case a jpeg file - is stripped out as an 
attachment. Thats fine, but where's me text gone?

Anyone know of away around this?

- Pat.

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[Mailman-Users] Pure moderator option

2003-02-06 Thread Staff di Netribe - ReggioNET
Hello,
Is it possible to setup a list so that a particular user with a 
particular password can only moderate the list, but cannot modify other 
options (like subscribe/unsubscribe, general options, privacy options, 
etc.)?
Thank you for attention.
Regards.

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[Mailman-Users] HTML in the digest emails

2003-02-06 Thread Moo-Lah Ranch
I just set up a list and I love the mailman service.. but on Digest plain some of the 
messages come through with HTML mixed in with the text of the email..

Can anyone help me stop this??
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[Mailman-Users] feature query

2003-02-06 Thread root
Friends,

In reading the web site and scanning the documentation, it appears that 
subscribers provide only their names and email addresses.  Is there a 
facility in mailman to collect additional demographics, such as job 
title (pull down list), opt-in buttons, and company name (fill in)?

Thanks,

Bill Flanagan

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[Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman version 2.1

2003-02-06 Thread Daniel Fraga
Bug in Mailman version 2.1

We're sorry, we hit a bug!
If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy
of
this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what
happened. Thanks!

Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main
main()
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 169, in main
change_options(mlist, category, subcat, cgidata, doc)
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 1263, in
change_options
send_admin_notif, invitation)
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 888, in
ApprovedAddMember
kind, formataddr((email, name)))
  File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Utils.py, line 106, in
formataddr
return '%s%s%s %s' % (quotes, name, quotes, address)
UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128)








Python information:
  Variable Value
  sys.version 2.2.2 (#1, Oct 22 2002, 22:38:59) [GCC 3.2]
  sys.executable /usr/bin/python
  sys.prefix /usr/local
  sys.exec_prefix /usr/local
  sys.path /usr/local
  sys.platform linux2








Environment variables:
  Variable Value
  HTTP_ACCEPT  image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg,
application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/vnd.ms-excel,
application/msword,
*/*
  CONTENT_TYPE  multipart/form-data;
boundary=---7d31de344f40514
  HTTP_REFERER
http://abusar.org/mailman/admin/associados-abusar/members/add
  SERVER_SOFTWARE  Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) mod_perl/1.27
mod_gzip/1.3.26.1a
PHP/4.3.0
  REDIRECT_STATUS  200
  SCRIPT_FILENAME  /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin
  SERVER_ADMIN  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  SCRIPT_NAME  /mailman/admin
  SERVER_SIGNATURE  Apache/1.3.27 Server at www.abusar.org Port 80
  REQUEST_METHOD  POST
  HTTP_HOST  abusar.org
  PATH_INFO  /associados-abusar/members/add
  REDIRECT_URL  /mailman/admin/associados-abusar/members/add
  SERVER_PROTOCOL  HTTP/1.1
  QUERY_STRING
  HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL  no-cache
  REQUEST_URI  /mailman/admin/associados-abusar/members/add
  CONTENT_LENGTH  14423
  HTTP_USER_AGENT  Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT
5.0;
Q312461; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)
  HTTP_CONNECTION  Keep-Alive
  HTTP_COOKIE
associados-abusar+admin=2802006975e5403e732800326231633563373666
6461
363832313130383637303736326361336338306466326135346635
  SERVER_NAME  www.abusar.org
  REMOTE_ADDR  200.207.188.90
  REMOTE_PORT  3194
  HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE  pt-br
  PYTHONPATH  /usr/local/mailman
  PATH_TRANSLATED
/home/belforts/web/abusar/associados-abusar/members/add
  SERVER_PORT  80
  GATEWAY_INTERFACE  CGI/1.1
  HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING  gzip, deflate
  SERVER_ADDR  192.168.90.2
  DOCUMENT_ROOT  /home/belforts/web/abusar


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[Mailman-Users] Installation and Configuration help on Mailman

2003-02-06 Thread Prasad Tadi
Hi,

I am using MAILMAN 2.0.13 and installed and configured every thing ( I
hope).
I can browse the archives and can send mails to Archive.
But none of the list members gets any notification.

When looked further I found the following LOG message to my mailman (root)
account.

I am NOT planning to use NNTP servers. Is it a MUST?
Do I have to have a NNTP service running on my system?

Any help / pointers are appreciated!

Regards
Prasad



= LOG from my mail 
From mailman  Wed Feb  5 09:15:01 2003
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:15:00 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cron mailman@orange /usr/bin/python -S
//usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news
X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh
X-Cron-Env: HOME=/usr/local/mailman
X-Cron-Env: PATH=/usr/bin:/bin
X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=mailman

Traceback (innermost last):
  File //usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 222, in ?
main()
  File //usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 203, in main
process_lists(lock)
  File //usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 148, in process_lists
conn, first, last = open_newsgroup(mlist)
  File //usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 75, in open_newsgroup
password=mm_cfg.NNTP_PASSWORD)
  File //usr/local/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py, line 111, in
__init__
self.sock.connect((self.host, self.port))
socket.error: (111, 'Connection refused')


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[Mailman-Users] foamembers

2003-02-06 Thread PRISCILLA FERAL
While trying to create Mailman list [EMAIL PROTECTED], I there was 
a problem when I attempted to mass subscribe members.  I deleted the list, but a 
welcome message was sent out, and replies received.  I cannot access the replies, 
because the list doesn't exist, and I can't recreate the list under the same name 
because I get an error message stating the list is still on the server.

Any suggestions?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] problem after upgrading to 2.1

2003-02-06 Thread Jon Carnes
I suggest that you need to check the configuration of the file
(~mailman/bin/check_db). I believe the error indicates that while
reading the config.pck file (and dumping out the member names) that it
found values that are not Ascii.

The list is large enough that you could have had a problem in the
upgrade.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 11:59, Scott R. Every wrote:
 After upgrading, I am now getting the following error using list_members:
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File ./list_members, line 232, in ?
 main()
   File ./list_members, line 207, in main
 s = formataddr((name, addr)).encode(enc, 'replace')
 UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128)
 
 This happens whether I use the existing config.db file or if I use 
 list_members from 2.0.x to dump all the users, then use add_members to add 
 them to a new list.  Again, list_members works as expected under 2.0.x, but 
 not under 2.1.  Has anyone seen this before?  Does anyone know of any 
 workarounds?
 
 I need list_members to be working for arbitrary list splitting.
 
 The list has almost 600k members which may be causing the problem, but it 
 worked fine in 2.0.x.  Any help would be appreciated.
 
 Thanks
 
 s
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] footer (fwd)

2003-02-06 Thread Fernando Schapachnik
Remember the thread about getting external footers? Here is where I
got stuck. The only remaining issue is how to add an attribute to
existing mailing lists.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

En un mensaje anterior, Tom Neff escribió:
 If you have the ability to patch your Mailman installation, you could 
 add a new variable name (like mlist.fortune) to the ALLOWEDS array in 
 Mailman/Gui/Digest.py and then use the 'withlist' command to set this 
 variable to a new value every so often, and include it in the msg_footer 

So I did it. I also added:

self.external_footer = ''

in MailList.py:InitVars()

and

d['external_footer'] = mlist.external_footer

in Handlers/Decorate.py:process() (line 38).

I can set the footer with 'withlist', but the problem is that
previous lists don't have the external_footer field so they blow
with:

  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 130, in __getattr__
raise AttributeError, name
AttributeError: external_footer

How do I add the new attribute to the existing lists?

Thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] removing a strange email address

2003-02-06 Thread Jon Carnes
Can you remove him using the Web-admin?
If not, then you may need to use ~mailman/bin/withlist

On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 11:30, alex wetmore wrote:
 One of my users subscribed with the address mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 when I was running 2.0.13.  Now I'm running 2.1 and he wants to
 unsubscribe.  2.1 won't allow him to change his settings, and when
 I use remove_members it reports that [EMAIL PROTECTED] isn't a
 subscriber.
 
 How can I remove this user from the list?
 
 thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] problem after upgrading to 2.1

2003-02-06 Thread Scott R. Every


--On Wednesday, February 5, 2003 10:41 PM -0500 Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

I suggest that you need to check the configuration of the file
(~mailman/bin/check_db). I believe the error indicates that while


this was done for both the original db and the newly imported db created 
from the list_members program in 2.0.x.  Both checked out OK.

reading the config.pck file (and dumping out the member names) that it
found values that are not Ascii.


How would one go about tracking this down?  i cannot really view the list 
with the list_member tool and the web access is far too slow to be of use.

any python wizards out there who could shed more light on the error below?



The list is large enough that you could have had a problem in the
upgrade.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes


Thanks for the advice.

s



On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 11:59, Scott R. Every wrote:

After upgrading, I am now getting the following error using list_members:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ./list_members, line 232, in ?
main()
  File ./list_members, line 207, in main
s = formataddr((name, addr)).encode(enc, 'replace')
UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128)

This happens whether I use the existing config.db file or if I use
list_members from 2.0.x to dump all the users, then use add_members to
add  them to a new list.  Again, list_members works as expected under
2.0.x, but  not under 2.1.  Has anyone seen this before?  Does anyone
know of any  workarounds?

I need list_members to be working for arbitrary list splitting.

The list has almost 600k members which may be causing the problem, but
it  worked fine in 2.0.x.  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

s

Scott R. Every   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Blast Inc.   http://www.blast.com
1-800-24-BLAST   ext 543

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Re: [Mailman-Users] removing a strange email address

2003-02-06 Thread alex wetmore
The web-admin doesn't work either.

Is there a guide to using withlist anywhere?

alex

On 5 Feb 2003, Jon Carnes wrote:

 Can you remove him using the Web-admin?
 If not, then you may need to use ~mailman/bin/withlist

 On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 11:30, alex wetmore wrote:
  One of my users subscribed with the address mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  when I was running 2.0.13.  Now I'm running 2.1 and he wants to
  unsubscribe.  2.1 won't allow him to change his settings, and when
  I use remove_members it reports that [EMAIL PROTECTED] isn't a
  subscriber.
 
  How can I remove this user from the list?
 
  thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] problem after upgrading to 2.1

2003-02-06 Thread Jon Carnes
Have you tried a ~mailman/bin/dumpdb on the config.pck for the list.  It
would dump out the users - multiple times: once for language, once for
members, once for passwords, and once for user options.

You might even be able to pin-point the problem point.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 23:10, Scott R. Every wrote:
 
 
 --On Wednesday, February 5, 2003 10:41 PM -0500 Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  I suggest that you need to check the configuration of the file
  (~mailman/bin/check_db). I believe the error indicates that while
 
 this was done for both the original db and the newly imported db created 
 from the list_members program in 2.0.x.  Both checked out OK.
 
  reading the config.pck file (and dumping out the member names) that it
  found values that are not Ascii.
 
 How would one go about tracking this down?  i cannot really view the list 
 with the list_member tool and the web access is far too slow to be of use.
 
 any python wizards out there who could shed more light on the error below?
 
 
 
  The list is large enough that you could have had a problem in the
  upgrade.
 
  Good Luck - Jon Carnes
 
 Thanks for the advice.
 
 s
 
 
  On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 11:59, Scott R. Every wrote:
  After upgrading, I am now getting the following error using list_members:
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File ./list_members, line 232, in ?
  main()
File ./list_members, line 207, in main
  s = formataddr((name, addr)).encode(enc, 'replace')
  UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128)
 
  This happens whether I use the existing config.db file or if I use
  list_members from 2.0.x to dump all the users, then use add_members to
  add  them to a new list.  Again, list_members works as expected under
  2.0.x, but  not under 2.1.  Has anyone seen this before?  Does anyone
  know of any  workarounds?
 
  I need list_members to be working for arbitrary list splitting.
 
  The list has almost 600k members which may be causing the problem, but
  it  worked fine in 2.0.x.  Any help would be appreciated.
 
  Thanks
 
  s
 
  Scott R. Every   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Mailman-Users] removing a strange email address

2003-02-06 Thread Jon Carnes
There are examples in the file

On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 23:25, alex wetmore wrote:
 The web-admin doesn't work either.
 
 Is there a guide to using withlist anywhere?
 
 alex
 
 On 5 Feb 2003, Jon Carnes wrote:
 
  Can you remove him using the Web-admin?
  If not, then you may need to use ~mailman/bin/withlist
 
  On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 11:30, alex wetmore wrote:
   One of my users subscribed with the address mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   when I was running 2.0.13.  Now I'm running 2.1 and he wants to
   unsubscribe.  2.1 won't allow him to change his settings, and when
   I use remove_members it reports that [EMAIL PROTECTED] isn't a
   subscriber.
  
   How can I remove this user from the list?
  
   thanks,
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RE: [Mailman-Users] How to change 'from' address for admin messages

2003-02-06 Thread Harwood, AS (Andrew)
I'm using Mailman 2.1 and the sendmail that comes with Tru64 Unix (it seems
to have the
version number 8.8.8).

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 From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 06 February 2003 01:24
 To: Harwood, AS (Andrew)
 Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change 'from' address for admin
 messages
 
 
 What version of Mailman are you using and what is your MTA. Version
 2.1.x has much better virtual host control. 
 
 Also, Postfix has much better virtual host control than sendmail.
 
 On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 10:47, Harwood, AS (Andrew) wrote:
  I am having difficulty working out how I can change the 
 'from' address that
  mailman admin messages come from. I have set up mailman on 
 our machine
  tornado.badc.rl.ac.uk. I would prefer that mail appears to come from
  'ncas.nerc.ac.uk', which is a valid alias for this machine. 
 How do I do
  this? I have tried setting 'Host name this list prefers for 
 email', but this
  does not appear to make any difference. What determines 
 which host the
  messages appear to come from? Thanks.
  
  
  Andrew Harwood
  Infrastructure Manager
  BADC, Rutherford Appleton Laboratory
  
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[Mailman-Users] Outlook issue? (was Disabling VERP)

2003-02-06 Thread Richard Barrett
This looks as though there may be a compatibility problem between mail 
coming from Mailman and way the Outlook MUA displays it that is worse with 
MM 2.1 than with MM 2.0.x.

Anyone out there with experience of Microsoft products that can explain 
what's described below and how to correct it?


 Tom

 I think there is some confusion here about what is meant by
 VERP'ed address.

Evidently, you are correct. :-/

So, that's not my problem, then, but my problem remains unresolved.  In a
nutshell, here's what I'm observing:

Prior to my upgrade (oh, bitter irony!) to Mailman 2.1, mail sent via a
list had the following characteristics:

From: User Name [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To:  list|user depending on list setting

Now, the mail looks like:

From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of User Name [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To:  null

Additionally, sometimes Outlook will insert the short description of the
list into the To: field when replying, but I'm willing to believe that's a
bug in Outlook.

My users don't like the new From: format, and I am trying to get it back to
the way it was, which seems like such a small and simple thing to do but
evidently is not.  Also, getting rid of the text attachments in Outlook when
the footer has a different character set than the message body (also due to
a new feature introduced in 2.1) would be delightful.

Thanks for your time and patience,

Tom



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[Mailman-Users] Delay?

2003-02-06 Thread detemple
Hi,

when I sent an email to a mailman list it takes some minutes to even a hour
until all emails are sent. On the list are about 40 people. What is the
reason for the delay? Can it be reduced by changing some settings?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] What is python doing?

2003-02-06 Thread Gareth Hopkins
On 3 Feb 2003, Jon Carnes wrote:

JCSome guesses (since no information was provided):
JC  Mailman 2.0.x
JC  IDE disk subsystem
JC  Archiving turned on for list
JC
JCIf that is the case, then Mailman is doing a lot of writing to the disk.

Howdie,

I have switched off archiving and the python process is still
using over 98% CPU time. A truss on the process shows the following

break(0xa7e3000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xac48000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xa7e5000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xac4c000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xa7e7000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xac5) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xa7e9000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xac54000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xa7eb000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xac58000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xa7ed000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xac5c000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xa7ef000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xac6) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xa7f1000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xac64000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xa7f3000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xac68000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xa7f5000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xac6c000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xa7f7000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xac7) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xa7f9000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xac74000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xa7fb000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xac78000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xa7fd000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xac7c000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xa7ff000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xac8) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xa801000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xac84000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xa803000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xac88000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xa805000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0xac8c000) = 0 (0x0)

Any ideas?

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[Mailman-Users] [Subscribed members vanished]Looks to be simple Problem, thoughStrange]

2003-02-06 Thread Ganeshh
Dear Lists

I am running 30 lists on mailman 2.0.8 and out of which 20 to 25 of them 
are really active. The mailing system is working fine , but i like to 
share with
you a strange behaviour with mailman, or maybe i dunno it could an human 
error.

I added my 31st list on 23rd January and please find the below log, as 
it routine exercise of creating lists and mass subscribing the members, 
i didnt check the list members status on a daily level. To my surprise 
of out 9 members subscribed, only 3 of them exist.

Log data for /home/mailman/logs/subscribe file

Jan 23 16:27:19 2003 (29002) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 16:27:19 2003 (29002) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 16:27:19 2003 (29002) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 16:27:20 2003 (29002) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 16:27:20 2003 (29002) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 16:27:20 2003 (29002) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 16:39:56 2003 (29838) ow-ti: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]
192.168.0.3
Jan 23 16:41:03 2003 (29913) ow-ti: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]
192.168.0.3
Jan 23 16:42:23 2003 (29989) ow-ti: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]
192.168.0.3
Jan 23 19:25:01 2003 (6969) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 20:43:01 2003 (9498) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 29 17:58:02 2003 (16885) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]

My subscribe log was not modified by anyone or tampered, and i dont find any logs of members who arent existing anymore with stamp deleted

What could be cause of this problem...

Thanks in Advance
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[Mailman-Users] Lotus Notes not threading in Archive

2003-02-06 Thread Adam
Can anyone pinpoint the factor that Lotus Notes (or Bloatus Croaks) has with
email which prevents it from threading emails in the archive? Is it a case of a
missing header? 

thanks in advance. 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] remove_members without notification?

2003-02-06 Thread Sebastian Talmon
Hello Warren Woodward, 

 One of our hosted lists has ~5500 members, and 
 the list admin needs to upload a whole new, audited list of addresses.  
 Seeing as most of the members will be readded immediately, we'd like to 
 avoid the confusion of having them all sent unsubscription notices.

maybe sync_members (in the bin/-directory) is a good tool to try...

I by myself had not used it till now, but the description sounds good:

-

Synchronize a mailing list's membership with a flat file.

This script is useful if you have a Mailman mailing list and a sendmail
:include: style list of addresses (also as is used in Majordomo).  For every
address in the file that does not appear in the mailing list, the address is
added.  For every address in the mailing list that does not appear in the
file, the address is removed.  Other options control what happens when an
address is added or removed.

-



greetings
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Re: [Mailman-Users] What is python doing?

2003-02-06 Thread Gareth Hopkins
On 6 Feb 2003, Jon Carnes wrote:

JCI have no idea what a truss is (besides something you wear when you have
JCa hernia).
JC
JCWhat kind of a system are running on (cpu, ram, amount of virtual memory
JCcurrently in use)?  How many messages/minute are you seeing pass through
JCyour system?
JC
JCCould it be that you are using a great deal of virtual memory (or even a
JClittle on an IDE box)?

Howdie,

I am running a 4.7-STABLE Freebsd Machine. The truss command is
used to trace system calls. Cpu in a PIII 500. we have 256 megs of ram
and 512 Megs of swap. Disks are not busy at all. With the archive off it
seems to be okay but as soon as archiving is switched on the messages
start to queue up in ~/mailman/qfiles/archives and ~/mailman/qfiles/in.

On one of the lists it could be up to 30 messages per minute.

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[Mailman-Users] Python upgrade problems - Mailman 2.0.13

2003-02-06 Thread John Masterson
System: Redhat 7.2, Mailman 2.0.13, webservers (for web-interface) and
Postfix mailserver (for crons/processing) nfs-mounting Mailman
installation.

After upgrading Python 1.5 (as per RHSA), public web-subscription to
mailman lists no longer worked (We've hit a bug! - ImportError:
cannot import name Pending). So we installed Python2 on the webservers
and forced Mailman to use it. Seemed to work for a few hours, and then
it appeared that no lists are processing messages. The error generated
every few seconds (a few dozen lists some with 10k+ members) was as
follows:

Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): Traceback (innermost last):
Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): File /www/mailman/cron/qrunner,
line 283, in ?
Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): kids = main(lock)
Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): File /www/mailman/cron/qrunner,
line 253, in main
Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): keepqueued = dispose_message(mlist,
msg, msgdata)
Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): File /www/mailman/cron/qrunner,
line 121, in dispose_message
Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): if BouncerAPI.ScanMessages(mlist,
mimemsg):
Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): File
/www/mailman/Mailman/Bouncers/BouncerAPI.py, line 58, in ScanMessages
Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): func = getattr(getattr(getattr(mod,
'Bouncers'), modname), 'process')
Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): AttributeError : process


My first thought was to try upgrading python on the mailserver which
does the processing:

rpm -ivh --nodeps python2-2.1.1-2.72.i386.rpm
cd /usr/bin/
rm -f python;ln -s python2 python


This created new errors in the Mailman logs:

Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539): Traceback (most recent call last):
Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):   File /www/mailman/cron/qrunner,
line 283, in ?
Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):  kids = main(lock)
Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):   File /www/mailman/cron/qrunner,
line 253, in main
Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):  keepqueued =
dispose_message(mlist, msg, msgdata)
Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):   File /www/mailman/cron/qrunner,
line 121, in dispose_message
Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):  if
BouncerAPI.ScanMessages(mlist, mimemsg):
Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):   File
/www/mailman/Mailman/Bouncers/BouncerAPI.py, line 57, in ScanMessages
Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):  mod =
__import__('Mailman.Bouncers.'+modname)
Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):   File
/www/mailman/Mailman/Bouncers/Catchall.py, line 34, in ?
Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):  import regsub
Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):   File
/usr/lib/python2.1/regsub.py, line 20, in ?
Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):  import regex
Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539): ImportError :  No module named
regex 

Decided to downgrade, so then I simply did a:

 cd /usr/bin
 rm -f python; ln -s python1.5 python


The errors immediately stopped being generated, and the contents of the
qfiles directory dropped from 400+ files to 60 files in about 5 minutes.

I guess at this point I am nervous that this will come back to haunt me,
perhaps again in a few hours. Any insight or archived messages I failed
to locate would be appreciated.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] htaccess-Restriction does not work

2003-02-06 Thread Keith Mastin
third time i am trying to get an answer: is there no url or whatever, where
i can read, how to get this htaccess-restriction to work?

please help me!

http://apache-server.com/tutorials/ATusing-htaccess.html


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[Mailman-Users] Solaris 9

2003-02-06 Thread jsingh
Dear Users
I wanted to know if anyone had successfully installed python/Mailman on
Solaris 9 OS.
Thanks
Jack
 
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-06 Thread Keith Mastin
Hi All, 

I was just wondering what kind of security mailman offers, as far as
protecting user passwords goes?

A techy friend of mine has just kindly emailed me a list of all users
and their passwords! Looking at my server logs it would appear that he
snuck in somehow via anonymous ftp.

Would closing the anon. ftp service stop mailman working in anyway, or
dya reckon he got in some place else?

Cheers

Dino

You have some big problems if this is what happened. Your entire system is 
insecure and ready to be (pl)ucked by anyone who has a little know-how. 
Anonymous ftp should chroot to a specific directory, and if a user can 
logon to anon-ftp and get more info then it is completely set up wrong.

Closing anon-ftp is a must-do first step. Really, you should do a full 
system audit, or preferably format and re-install with all clean user info 
(user/passwd pairs), updated *_everything_* and all programs tightened 
down to paranoid levels. Take it as a lesson in security, and don't let it 
happen again is about the best you can get out of this.

The real concern here is the passwords. They are supposed to be encrypted, 
human-unreadable except by the passwd program OR a *_sniffer_program_*. If 
you're friend was able to get them, so is just about any script-kiddie 
able to.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-06 Thread Keith Mastin
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:47:48 +
Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:44:10 -
 dino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Actually he did it this way:
  
  Noticed that mydomain/mailman was browsable.
  
  Telneted to port 80 and sent a get request from there...ouch.
  
  Sorting that now
  
  Dino
 
 
The fact that telnet is open pretty much says everything about  this
sysadmin's approach to security. 
 
IIRC, he didn't say telnetd was open, just that a friend telnetted into 
the mailman directory via port 80(httpd) and got more than he bargained 
for.

OP: rpm -e telnetd


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[Mailman-Users] Mass Subscriptions -- HELP

2003-02-06 Thread Warren Hoffman
1. We're migrating ~1500 users from Lyris - and half of them have digest 
specified. We have two files of subscribers - one with digest subscribers 
and one with everyone else. Can we 'import' the digest users in a way that 
the digest option is pre-selected (short of clicking each one on the 
membership page)? How? Ditto for some of the other options (like not 
getting mail from the list), but digest is critical.

2. We'd like to import real names for each user (which we have - in the 
files we extract from the old system). Is there a way to do this?

Thanks!!!

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[Mailman-Users] installation problem

2003-02-06 Thread Stoyan Angelov
hello all,

i have just installed Mailman 2.1 for the first time and i have the following problem. 
i followed the instructions in the INSTALL file and everything went ok to the point i 
had to create my first maillist. accessing the www.mysite.org/mailman/create gives me 
the following error:  ImportError: No module named time. i checked my python 
installation and when i am logged as root doing: 

[root@myhost:/]#python
Python 2.2.2 (#1, Feb  6 2003, 23:57:56) 
[GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)] on sunos5
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 import time

 
works as root... if i su - mailman and run python it fails like this:

[mailman@myhost:~]$python
Python 2.2.2 (#1, Feb  6 2003, 23:57:56) 
[GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)] on sunos5
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 import time
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File stdin, line 1, in ?
ImportError: No module named time
 

i gues it is a permissions issue or some variable i need to set ? do you have an idea ?

thank you!

Stoyan Angelov




[- Mailman Version: 2.1 -]
[- Traceback --]
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 63, in run_main
from Mailman.Logging.StampedLogger import StampedLogger
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py, line 18, in ?
import time
ImportError: No module named time
[- Python Information -]
sys.version = 2.2.2 (#1, Feb  6 2003, 23:57:56) 
[GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)]
sys.executable  = /usr/local/bin/python
sys.prefix  = /usr/local
sys.exec_prefix = /usr/local
sys.path= /usr/local
sys.platform= sunos5
[- Environment Variables -]
PYTHONPATH: /usr/local/mailman
SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) FrontPage/5.0.2.2510 mod_ssl/2.8.12 
OpenSSL/0.9.6g
SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/create
SERVER_ADMIN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/create
SERVER_SIGNATURE: ADDRESSApache/1.3.27 Server at www.filibeto.org Port 
80/ADDRESS
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Losing text from Outlook emails.

2003-02-06 Thread David Eisner

Yep.  See:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2003-February/026082.html

-David

On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Pat Finnerty wrote:

 I've noticed that emails that are sent from Outlook with embedded 
 objects lose any text when archived by pipermail.
 


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[Mailman-Users] [Urgent][Subscribed members vanished]Looks to be simple Problem,though Strange]]

2003-02-06 Thread Ganeshh
Dear List

The below mail is critical for me, let me know the possible cause.

Warm Regards
Ganeshh

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error: Incorrect padding???

2003-02-06 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

 DG == David Gibbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

DG I'm getting a huge amount of these messages ... any ideas?

Not off hand, but I have an idea.  Can you please submit a bug report
and include one of the shunted messages?

Thanks,
-Barry

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[Mailman-Users] [URGENT][Subscribers Vanished, No entries in the log]

2003-02-06 Thread Ganeshh
Dear Lists

I am running 30 lists on mailman 2.0.8 and out of which 20 to 25 of them 
are really active. The mailing system is working fine , but i like to 
share with
you a strange behaviour with mailman, or maybe i dunno it could an human 
error.

I added my 31st list on 23rd January and please find the below log, as 
it routine exercise of creating lists and mass subscribing the members, 
i didnt check the list members status on a daily level. To my surprise 
of out 9 members subscribed, only 3 of them exist.

Log data for /home/mailman/logs/subscribe file

Jan 23 16:27:19 2003 (29002) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 16:27:19 2003 (29002) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 16:27:19 2003 (29002) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 16:27:20 2003 (29002) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 16:27:20 2003 (29002) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 16:27:20 2003 (29002) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 16:39:56 2003 (29838) ow-ti: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]
192.168.0.3
Jan 23 16:41:03 2003 (29913) ow-ti: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]
192.168.0.3
Jan 23 16:42:23 2003 (29989) ow-ti: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]
192.168.0.3
Jan 23 19:25:01 2003 (6969) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 20:43:01 2003 (9498) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 29 17:58:02 2003 (16885) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]

My subscribe log was not modified by anyone or tampered, and i dont find 
any logs of members who arent existing anymore with stamp deleted

What could be cause of this problem...

Thanks in Advance
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[Mailman-Users] [URGENT][SUBSCRIBERS VANISHED, No entries in LOG]

2003-02-06 Thread Ganeshh
Dear Lists

I am running 30 lists on mailman 2.0.8 and out of which 20 to 25 of them 
are really active. The mailing system is working fine , but i like to 
share with
you a strange behaviour with mailman, or maybe i dunno it could an human 
error.

I added my 31st list on 23rd January and please find the below log, as 
it routine exercise of creating lists and mass subscribing the members, 
i didnt check the list members status on a daily level. To my surprise 
of out 9 members subscribed, only 3 of them exist.

Log data for /home/mailman/logs/subscribe file

Jan 23 16:27:19 2003 (29002) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 16:27:19 2003 (29002) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 16:27:19 2003 (29002) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 16:27:20 2003 (29002) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 16:27:20 2003 (29002) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 16:27:20 2003 (29002) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 16:39:56 2003 (29838) ow-ti: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]
192.168.0.3
Jan 23 16:41:03 2003 (29913) ow-ti: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]
192.168.0.3
Jan 23 16:42:23 2003 (29989) ow-ti: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]
192.168.0.3
Jan 23 19:25:01 2003 (6969) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 23 20:43:01 2003 (9498) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 29 17:58:02 2003 (16885) ow-ti: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]

My subscribe log was not modified by anyone or tampered, and i dont find 
any logs of members who arent existing anymore with stamp deleted

What could be cause of this problem...

Thanks in Advance
Ganeshh


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Re: [Mailman-Users] RE;Cron/senddigests bug

2003-02-06 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

 DP == Dan Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

DP Tried that and it reported no problems. The problem definitely
DP seems to be in digest.mbox, although I can't see anything
DP wrong.

If it isn't too late, can you submit a bug report with the mbox file
attached?  If you don't want to attach the mbox (say it has sensitive
information), you can still submit the bug report and send me the mbox
file.

-Barry

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Re: [Mailman-Users] after 2.0.13-2.1 upgrade, files needed?

2003-02-06 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

 JAE == Jeff A Earickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

JAE I've noticed that mailing lists that I've created after the
JAE upgrade only contain config.pck, config.pck.last, and
JAE request.db.  Can I assume that the config.db and html files
JAE are left over from 2.0.x and can now be deleted?

Yes.  Back 'em up first though. ;)
-Barry

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Another upgrade problem (2.0.13 - 2.1); pending admin request page hosed

2003-02-06 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

 EO == Ed Osinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

EO I upgraded from 2.0.13 to 2.1, and I run into a problem when
EO trying to access the Tend to pending moderator requests page
EO of a pre-existing list.  I get:

EO ValueError: unpack tuple of wrong size

I believe I finally fixed this.
-Barry

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass Subscriptions -- HELP

2003-02-06 Thread Jon Carnes
Yes to both questions (see below)

- Original Message -
From: Warren Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 6:06 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mass Subscriptions -- HELP


 1. We're migrating ~1500 users from Lyris - and half of them have digest
 specified. We have two files of subscribers - one with digest subscribers
 and one with everyone else. Can we 'import' the digest users in a way that
 the digest option is pre-selected (short of clicking each one on the
 membership page)? How? Ditto for some of the other options (like not
 getting mail from the list), but digest is critical.

Use the command line ~mailman/bin/add_member. You can specify a whole file
for digest users and different file for regular users.


 2. We'd like to import real names for each user (which we have - in the
 files we extract from the old system). Is there a way to do this?

Put the emails in your file one per line - and use the syntax found in the
archives for adding the full name.  I'm away from the archives right now or
I would look it up for you.  It's something like:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (full name)

Or at least I think that is one of the many acceptable formats.  To be sure
look in the archives of this list.  I don't capture full name at my sites.
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Python upgrade problems - Mailman 2.0.13

2003-02-06 Thread Jon Carnes
Your best bet all around is to install Mailman via source.  It's easy to do
and if you did install previously using the rpm you can query the rpm for
the proper setup to install via source.  Since you were having problems and
you were nervous about it, I'm assuming you used the rpms... could be
wrong - and I hope I am!

In any case, as soon as you change python, you need to re-install Mailman -
preferably from source.  Mailman is very robust, but once you start changing
the underlying modules and libraries you're asking for trouble (unless you
re-install so that it can use the new modules and libraries).

Best of Luck - Jon Carnes

- Original Message -
From: John Masterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:37 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Python upgrade problems - Mailman 2.0.13


 System: Redhat 7.2, Mailman 2.0.13, webservers (for web-interface) and
 Postfix mailserver (for crons/processing) nfs-mounting Mailman
 installation.

 After upgrading Python 1.5 (as per RHSA), public web-subscription to
 mailman lists no longer worked (We've hit a bug! - ImportError:
 cannot import name Pending). So we installed Python2 on the webservers
 and forced Mailman to use it. Seemed to work for a few hours, and then
 it appeared that no lists are processing messages. The error generated
 every few seconds (a few dozen lists some with 10k+ members) was as
 follows:

 Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): Traceback (innermost last):
 Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): File /www/mailman/cron/qrunner,
 line 283, in ?
 Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): kids = main(lock)
 Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): File /www/mailman/cron/qrunner,
 line 253, in main
 Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): keepqueued = dispose_message(mlist,
 msg, msgdata)
 Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): File /www/mailman/cron/qrunner,
 line 121, in dispose_message
 Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): if BouncerAPI.ScanMessages(mlist,
 mimemsg):
 Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): File
 /www/mailman/Mailman/Bouncers/BouncerAPI.py, line 58, in ScanMessages
 Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): func = getattr(getattr(getattr(mod,
 'Bouncers'), modname), 'process')
 Feb 06 10:01:02 2003 qrunner(1209): AttributeError : process


 My first thought was to try upgrading python on the mailserver which
 does the processing:

 rpm -ivh --nodeps python2-2.1.1-2.72.i386.rpm
 cd /usr/bin/
 rm -f python;ln -s python2 python


 This created new errors in the Mailman logs:

 Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539): Traceback (most recent call last):
 Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):   File /www/mailman/cron/qrunner,
 line 283, in ?
 Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):  kids = main(lock)
 Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):   File /www/mailman/cron/qrunner,
 line 253, in main
 Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):  keepqueued =
 dispose_message(mlist, msg, msgdata)
 Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):   File /www/mailman/cron/qrunner,
 line 121, in dispose_message
 Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):  if
 BouncerAPI.ScanMessages(mlist, mimemsg):
 Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):   File
 /www/mailman/Mailman/Bouncers/BouncerAPI.py, line 57, in ScanMessages
 Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):  mod =
 __import__('Mailman.Bouncers.'+modname)
 Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):   File
 /www/mailman/Mailman/Bouncers/Catchall.py, line 34, in ?
 Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):  import regsub
 Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):   File
 /usr/lib/python2.1/regsub.py, line 20, in ?
 Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539):  import regex
 Feb 06 10:51:02 2003 qrunner(22539): ImportError :  No module named
 regex

 Decided to downgrade, so then I simply did a:

  cd /usr/bin
  rm -f python; ln -s python1.5 python


 The errors immediately stopped being generated, and the contents of the
 qfiles directory dropped from 400+ files to 60 files in about 5 minutes.

 I guess at this point I am nervous that this will come back to haunt me,
 perhaps again in a few hours. Any insight or archived messages I failed
 to locate would be appreciated.



 John Masterson
 Modwest
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Re: [Mailman-Users] remove_members without notification?

2003-02-06 Thread Jon Carnes
+1
I've used ~mailman/bin/sync_members in several scripts for a few years now.
It works great!  And you can turn off the notices so folks don't know that
you are mucking about with the list membership.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes
- Original Message -
From: Sebastian Talmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Warren Woodward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] remove_members without notification?


 Hello Warren Woodward,

  One of our hosted lists has ~5500 members, and
  the list admin needs to upload a whole new, audited list of addresses.
  Seeing as most of the members will be readded immediately, we'd like to
  avoid the confusion of having them all sent unsubscription notices.

 maybe sync_members (in the bin/-directory) is a good tool to try...

 I by myself had not used it till now, but the description sounds good:

 -

 Synchronize a mailing list's membership with a flat file.

 This script is useful if you have a Mailman mailing list and a sendmail
 :include: style list of addresses (also as is used in Majordomo).  For
every
 address in the file that does not appear in the mailing list, the address
is
 added.  For every address in the mailing list that does not appear in the
 file, the address is removed.  Other options control what happens when an
 address is added or removed.

 -



 greetings
 Sebastian

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Delay?

2003-02-06 Thread Jon Carnes
Hmm, without more detail we can't really help.  There are a lot of things
that affect speed.
One item is what version of Mailman that you are using: v 2.1 is faster.
Also in version 2.0.x some folks don't run the qrunner every minute, some
folks only run it every 5 minutes (or worse).
You could be experiencing DNS problems.  You could be using Sendmail as your
MTA and the first address on the list goes to a really slow mail server so
the rest of the mail bottle-necks behind the first couple of emails
The emails may be overly large.  You may need more RAM in your machine.
Your server may be running a P90 for it's CPU.   You might have a dog-slow
out-bound internet connection..  You could be suffering quantum time slips
from leaving your tea bags in the hot water for too long (be careful where
you put those dangly bits...)

There are volumes of discussions like this in the archives.  Pick a month
and just start reading.  Good Luck - Jon Carnes

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:06 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Delay?


 Hi,

 when I sent an email to a mailman list it takes some minutes to even a
hour
 until all emails are sent. On the list are about 40 people. What is the
 reason for the delay? Can it be reduced by changing some settings?

 Regards
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change 'from' address for admin messages

2003-02-06 Thread Jon Carnes
You might try defining the virtual server portions of mm_cfg.py (see
~mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py for the proper syntax...)

OTOH, both postfix and qmail have the ability to modify the From of a
locally sent email. So does Sendmail if you set up the Generics tables...

- Original Message -
From: Harwood, AS (Andrew)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Jon Carnes' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:44 AM
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] How to change 'from' address for admin messages


 I'm using Mailman 2.1 and the sendmail that comes with Tru64 Unix (it
seems
 to have the
 version number 8.8.8).

  -Original Message-
  From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 06 February 2003 01:24
  To: Harwood, AS (Andrew)
  Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change 'from' address for admin
  messages
 
 
  What version of Mailman are you using and what is your MTA. Version
  2.1.x has much better virtual host control.
 
  Also, Postfix has much better virtual host control than sendmail.
 
  On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 10:47, Harwood, AS (Andrew) wrote:
   I am having difficulty working out how I can change the
  'from' address that
   mailman admin messages come from. I have set up mailman on
  our machine
   tornado.badc.rl.ac.uk. I would prefer that mail appears to come from
   'ncas.nerc.ac.uk', which is a valid alias for this machine.
  How do I do
   this? I have tried setting 'Host name this list prefers for
  email', but this
   does not appear to make any difference. What determines
  which host the
   messages appear to come from? Thanks.
  
  
   Andrew Harwood
   Infrastructure Manager
   BADC, Rutherford Appleton Laboratory
  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] foamembers

2003-02-06 Thread Jon Carnes
No problem.

Login to the server and cd on over to ~mailman/lists/..
Then  rm -rf  listname

Once you remove the list directory and it's contents (the config.pck file)
then the list will no longer exist...  There is an FAQ about this (and it
tells you how to get rid of the Archives as well).

To get the subscribes that were previously sent, look in:  ~mailman/logs/..
You will find a subscribe log that has a wealth of info that you can use!

Happy Hunting! - Jon Carnes
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From: PRISCILLA FERAL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:57 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] foamembers


While trying to create Mailman list [EMAIL PROTECTED], I
there was a problem when I attempted to mass subscribe members.  I deleted
the list, but a welcome message was sent out, and replies received.  I
cannot access the replies, because the list doesn't exist, and I can't
recreate the list under the same name because I get an error message stating
the list is still on the server.

Any suggestions?

Bob Orabona
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation and Configuration help on Mailman

2003-02-06 Thread Jon Carnes
This is not a problem.  If you look at the cron jobs that you faithfully put
in for Mailman you will see that one of them is specific to gating mail over
to a news server.  Comment this particular script out of the cron (then
uncomment it later should you change your mind about News servers!).

The error simply says that the script tried to attach to a local News server
and couldn't find one.

When you said that your users were not getting notifications, did you mean
that they weren't getting notifications that their mail was being held (ie
moderated).  If so, then check the Web-Admin settings.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes
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From: Prasad Tadi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Prasad Tadi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:25 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Installation and Configuration help on Mailman


 Hi,

 I am using MAILMAN 2.0.13 and installed and configured every thing ( I
 hope).
 I can browse the archives and can send mails to Archive.
 But none of the list members gets any notification.

 When looked further I found the following LOG message to my mailman (root)
 account.

 I am NOT planning to use NNTP servers. Is it a MUST?
 Do I have to have a NNTP service running on my system?

 Any help / pointers are appreciated!

 Regards
 Prasad



 = LOG from my mail 
 From mailman  Wed Feb  5 09:15:01 2003
 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:15:00 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cron mailman@orange /usr/bin/python -S
 //usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news
 X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh
 X-Cron-Env: HOME=/usr/local/mailman
 X-Cron-Env: PATH=/usr/bin:/bin
 X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=mailman

 Traceback (innermost last):
   File //usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 222, in ?
 main()
   File //usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 203, in main
 process_lists(lock)
   File //usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 148, in process_lists
 conn, first, last = open_newsgroup(mlist)
   File //usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 75, in open_newsgroup
 password=mm_cfg.NNTP_PASSWORD)
   File //usr/local/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py, line 111, in
 __init__
 self.sock.connect((self.host, self.port))
 socket.error: (111, 'Connection refused')


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Re: [Mailman-Users] What is python doing?

2003-02-06 Thread Jon Carnes
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 06:43, Gareth Hopkins wrote:
 On 3 Feb 2003, Jon Carnes wrote:
 
 JCSome guesses (since no information was provided):
 JC  Mailman 2.0.x
 JC  IDE disk subsystem
 JC  Archiving turned on for list
 JC
 JCIf that is the case, then Mailman is doing a lot of writing to the disk.
 
 Howdie,
 
   I have switched off archiving and the python process is still
 using over 98% CPU time. A truss on the process shows the following

I have no idea what a truss is (besides something you wear when you have
a hernia).

What kind of a system are running on (cpu, ram, amount of virtual memory
currently in use)?  How many messages/minute are you seeing pass through
your system?

Could it be that you are using a great deal of virtual memory (or even a
little on an IDE box)?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] feature query

2003-02-06 Thread Jon Carnes
No... but it is coming.

Once the SQL connector is finished those items can be maintained outside of
Mailman.  Future versions will be even more extensible, but we take things
one step at a time! (Note: I'm not speaking for Barry, just relaying my
understanding of things uttered via email across this list)

Jon Carnes
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Subject: [Mailman-Users] feature query


 Friends,

 In reading the web site and scanning the documentation, it appears that
 subscribers provide only their names and email addresses.  Is there a
 facility in mailman to collect additional demographics, such as job
 title (pull down list), opt-in buttons, and company name (fill in)?

 Thanks,

 Bill Flanagan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML in the digest emails

2003-02-06 Thread Jon Carnes
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this is being rectified
in version 2.1.1 - or at least it is a current concern.

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I just set up a list and I love the mailman service.. but on Digest plain
some of the messages come through with HTML mixed in with the text of the
email..

Can anyone help me stop this??
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Pure moderator option

2003-02-06 Thread Jon Carnes
Version 2.1.x of Mailman is setup this way.  The description in the
Web-admin is very clear on the separate powers of admins and moderators.

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 Hello,
 Is it possible to setup a list so that a particular user with a
 particular password can only moderate the list, but cannot modify other
 options (like subscribe/unsubscribe, general options, privacy options,
 etc.)?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman stat's

2003-02-06 Thread Jon Carnes
Dang it!  I've got another script that does exactly that... I should have
included it.  I'll dump it on the list when I get done with this job
(sometime - hopefully - tomorrow).  It's a fairly simple script that I run
monthly - only it uses the log entries and isolates the entries that
indicate a user has been moved over to no-mail due to excessive bounces.

Jon Carnes
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 Thanks for the script, Jon!  Looks great.

 I've trying to develop a script to run the bin/list_members --nomail for
 each mailing list once a month, with the results mailed to the list
 administrator.  Does anyone have an easy way to accomplish that?The
 reason I want to generate those reports is to allow the list owners to see
 which members have been set to nomail due to bounces and need attention.

 Again, thanks!

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